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goldplumes
27th December 2005, 6:17 PM
Most movesets aren't original (people from other forums fixed some). Please help with the EV spread because I have no idea what I'm doing.

EV: I use hp/att/def/spd/spattk/spdef

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252/0/252/6/0/0
Nature: Bold
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Recover
- Toxic

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Nature Cure
EVs: 120/0/252/12/0/120
Nature: Bold
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled

Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6/0/0/252/252/0
Nature: Modest
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
- HP Fire/Water
- Baton Pass/Morning Sun

(Not sure if this set will work on Espeon.)

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: No idea
Nature: Impish
- Roar
- Taunt
- Spikes
- Drill Peck

Lanturn (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6/0/0/252/0/252
Nature: Modest
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- T-wave

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6/252/0/252/0/0
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
- Earthquake
- Rockslide
- Slash
- ...


Thank you in advance for the fix!

Brown Bomber
27th December 2005, 7:05 PM
OK, fixing for my first post.


Most movesets aren't original (people from other forums fixed some). Please help with the EV spread because I have no idea what I'm doing.

EV: I use hp/att/def/spd/spattk/spdef

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252/0/252/6/0/0
Nature: Bold
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Recover
- Toxic

Hypnosis > Toxic since you don't have another sleeper, and Milotic can afford to miss with its defenses. 385 HP, handful of Spc. DEF.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Nature Cure
EVs: 120/0/252/12/0/120
Nature: Bold
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled

Calm, use 204 HP/252 DEF/44 Spc. DEF. Thunder Wave > Ice Beam, Espy can take care of Gengar.

Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6/0/0/252/252/0
Nature: Modest
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
- HP Fire/Water
- Baton Pass/Morning Sun

(Not sure if this set will work on Espeon.)

Psychic/CM/Sub/B-Pass, or EspyJump, works best. Go to Smogon for the EV spread which I'm too lazy to look up.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: No idea
Nature: Impish
- Roar
- Taunt
- Spikes
- Drill Peck

Spikes/WW/HP Flying/Rest. Max Defense, 321 HP, rest in Speed and Attack.

Lanturn (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6/0/0/252/0/252
Nature: Modest
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- T-wave

C-Ray > Surf or Beam, Parafusion is what Lanturn does best. More HP, less Spc. ATK.

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6/252/0/252/0/0
Nature: Jolly/Adamant
- Earthquake
- Rockslide
- Slash
- ...

EQ/R-Slide/HP Bug/A-Ace is the best set, the EV spread is fine for Duggy.

Thank you in advance for the fix!

HaLuZiNaTHoR
27th December 2005, 7:43 PM
Most movesets aren't original (people from other forums fixed some). Please help with the EV spread because I have no idea what I'm doing.

EV: I use hp/att/def/spd/spattk/spdef

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 252 sp.atck 126 def. 126 sp.def
Nature: Modest
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Recover
- Toxic/hipnosis

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Nature Cure
EVs: 252hp 252sp.atck 6sp.def
Nature: Modest
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Ice Beam
- Softboiled

Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 6/0/0/252/252/0
Nature: Modest
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
- HP Fire/Water
- Baton Pass/Morning Sun
good

(Not sure if this set will work on Espeon.)

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 180hp 180sp.def 150def
Nature: Impish
- Roar
- Taunt/toxic
- Spikes
- Drill Peck

Lanturn (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 6/0/0/252/0/252
Nature: Modest
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- T-wave
very good

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6/252/0/252/0/0
Nature: Adamant
- Earthquake
- Rockslide
- Slash/Hp bug, if you can
- Sludge bomb


Thank you in advance for the fix!

Hope i helped

Brown Bomber
27th December 2005, 8:44 PM
Why the hell should Blissey have Modest for the standard set? Calm works much better, Blissey is supposed to be a sponge.

Toxic on Skarm and Sludge Bomb on Duggy blow, don't use them.

aipomkong
27th December 2005, 9:09 PM
AnNoYiNg CaPs LoCk GuY, pLeAsE sToP rAtInG tEaMs, KtHx

Blue Ditto
28th December 2005, 3:21 AM
Either Bold Blissey with 212 HP, 252 Def, rest Special Defense, or Brown Bomber's Blissey set. In my opinion Thunder Wave is better over Ice Beam but whatever.

Should have Jolly Duggy. Even though it won't KO Celebi, it won't KO you either.

Brown Bomber
28th December 2005, 4:10 AM
Adamant is better, as it actually gets to 2HKO. Besides, it doesn't need excessive Speed, max with Adamant is OK.

Calm Blissey, Blissey still can't take that many physical hits with max Defense.

Blue Ditto
28th December 2005, 6:05 AM
It kills Raikou with 6 CMs up. If you accidentally let Raikou stat-up on you but managed to get rid of Substitute, Duggy takes its revenge for the rest of your team. So sometimes it really does count on the excessive speed.

But yeah, you're right about the Calm Bliss. =)

aipomkong
28th December 2005, 1:48 PM
Calm Blissey, Blissey still can't take that many physical hits with max Defense.

urm yes it can

only Stabbed fighting attacks 2hko, or CB Fightng attacks

both of these are easily predictable

ffs, even Aero's Stabed CB Rock Slide is a 3hko

Only Heracross/Machamp/Medicham/Hitmonlee will ohko it with stabed fighting attacks, and even then they have to be holding CB (except Cham)

with Calm and no defence, any unStabbed physical attack 2hko's you. unStabbed fighting attacks ohko you

this makes Blissey useless, you would even have trouble against Venusaur's Sludge Bomb, which would 2hko, while with max Def it is a 5hko

Calm is also pointless, as no unboosted special attack will even dent blissey anyway,
a +6 SAtk Suicune's Stabbed Surf doesn't even 2hko a Bold Blissey
only +6 raikou/starmie/zapdos will 2hko you in OU, and that isn't going to get setup any time soon

shoe pilot
28th December 2005, 2:49 PM
and EV's and Sp.def on a blissey are pointless.

I would show you numbers, but I can't find a non-retarded damage calculator :(

goldplumes
28th December 2005, 7:52 PM
Thanks for everyone's help! So I guess my fixed team will look around this:

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 216/0/252/6/0/36
Nature: Bold
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Recover
- Hypnosis

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Nature Cure
EVs: 212/0/252/0/0/46
Nature: Bold
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Thunder Wave
- Softboiled

Espeon (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 196/0/0/160/0/154
Nature: Calm
- Psychic
- Calm Mind
- Baton Pass
- Substitute

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 196/26/252/0/0/30
Nature: Impish
- Roar
- Rest
- Spikes
- Drill Peck

Lanturn (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Volt Absorb
EVs: 138/0/0/120/0/252
Nature: Modest
- Confuse Ray
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- T-wave

Dugtrio (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Arena Trap
EVs: 6/252/0/252/0/0
Nature: Jolly/Adamant (Still deciding)
- Earthquake
- Rockslide
- Aerial Ace
- HP Bug

Is there any weakness I haven't covered? Usually, I have tons of problems with Curselax and Tyranitar and I'm paranoid about the CM Suicune.

Blue Ditto
28th December 2005, 8:40 PM
Would also like to point out that Lanturn is UU. Generally not a good idea to mix OU with UU but whatever. Plus, two waters (Milo is on this team too) is a bit redundant. So I suggest a stronger physical attacker somewhere. Like Hera. ^^

Drayano
28th December 2005, 10:05 PM
Adamant Dugtrio if you want to OHKO Blissey.

aipomkong
28th December 2005, 10:35 PM
Adamant Dugtrio if you want to OHKO Blissey.

more like 2hko

Blue Ditto
29th December 2005, 1:34 AM
Or get a strong physical sweeper and if it doesn't do it go Jolly Duggy to finish it off. ;D

chaos952
29th December 2005, 5:56 AM
Jolly Dugtrio is worse than Adamant Dugtrio. It can catch Raikou with ease when the Substitute is not up, but its Earthquake is now a 3HKO on Blissey. Dugtrio might get stalled out of Earthquakes, but now you're stalled out of Softboileds. Good luck to you.

goldplumes
29th December 2005, 6:53 PM
Jolly Dugtrio is worse than Adamant Dugtrio. It can catch Raikou with ease when the Substitute is not up, but its Earthquake is now a 3HKO on Blissey. Dugtrio might get stalled out of Earthquakes, but now you're stalled out of Softboileds. Good luck to you.

Wha? Please be clear, lol. Does that mean my team needs another sweeper because I can get stalled? Then who should I take out? Lanturn, maybe?

Drayano
29th December 2005, 11:58 PM
more like 2hko

It's a 2HKO? ._.

Never mind then.

And Lanturn doesn't see much OU usage. You've got Milotic for a bulky water so I would get something else over it.

aipomkong
30th December 2005, 12:03 AM
386 (maybe 423) attack isn't going to ohko blissey anytime soon

goldplumes
31st December 2005, 11:39 PM
I will replace Lanturn with Zapdos then. I know there are two flying types but they have different weaknesses.

Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
Nature: Modest
EV: 220/0/46/124/60/60 (I'm assuming Espeon will pass the CMs to it so it won't need as many special EV.)
Moves:
- HP Grass
- Tbolt
- Sleep Talk
- Rest