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[Yunoehoo]
7th January 2006, 5:07 AM
Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 148 Spd / 236 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

HP Ice since I have a minor sala weak.

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Atk / 220 Def / 32 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Flamethrower
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb

I really got sick of fire blast missing. WoW really sucks when people switch to Hera or Milo.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Awesome with BP zappy. Considering replacing this with SD cross instead.

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 140 HP / 232 Atk / 84 Spd / 52 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Pursuit

Sup gengar.

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Rapid Spin
- Roar

Phazes and spins.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 128 HP / 176 Atk / 136 Def / 68 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Hits hard with STAB'ed DE and also my sleep taker.


Blaziken really owns this team once Zappy goes down.

SealElement
8th January 2006, 7:11 AM
You've got a good team here, and Metagross can kasplode on Blaziken.
Only edits:

Donphan's HP Rock should be replaced with Rock Slide, it may lose accuracy but the flinching is worth it.

If a fire type is brought into the fight it can take out Metagross and Hera and let Umbreons toxify your team,
so look out for that.

Other than that I see nothing else to edit, so good luck.

DemonScythe
8th January 2006, 7:52 AM
HPGrass Zapdos
(You don't stand a chance to celebi anyways)
Admant Hera
Brickbreak>Facade

[Yunoehoo]
8th January 2006, 1:39 PM
HP Ice has been on zapdos since CB sala really owns this team, and hera can somewhat take care of swampert anyway. Without Facade on hera, weezing would love this team as well. Donphan is really slow and will never flinch anything, so HP rock. lol toxic umbreon. Thanks for the replies though.

Lately, faster celebis has been giving this team some major problems. Any ideas to solve this problem?

Fluorescent Adolescent
8th January 2006, 3:57 PM
I personally think Donphan sucks but whatever. HP grass for dos, considering a thunderbolt 2OHKOs most dragon OU iirc.

Brice Break>Facade for hera. How do faster celebis give you problems? Celebi can't do sh*t to gross. If you really hate faster celebis, get in forry>Donphan or duggy>gross or something.

Brown Bomber
8th January 2006, 6:22 PM
']Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 148 Spd / 236 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

HP Ice since I have a minor sala weak.

T-Bolt 2HKOs it, Weezing will wall it with Will-o-Wisp... keep HP Grass, those Swampert give this team problems.

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Atk / 220 Def / 32 SAtk < -- Change to enough speed to outspeed Boah, probably 161 to be safe
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Will-o-Wisp
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb

I really got sick of fire blast missing. WoW really sucks when people switch to Hera or Milo.

Then predict or risk it. Will-o-Wisp is one of the only reasons to use Weezing, and your team can own Heracross and Milotic. Seriously, only use Flamethrower if you have serious Gross and Skarm problems (which you don't).

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Awesome with BP zappy. Considering replacing this with SD cross instead.

CBcross rapes stuff. CBcross > SDcross.

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 140 HP / 232 Atk / 84 Spd / 52 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Pursuit

Sup gengar.

Meteor Mash already OHKOs the little *******, Pursuit is only handy in ubers with Deoxys-FR and Sheddy. Should use T-Punch for Skarm or Rock Slide for those nasty Metal Sound Zappy (Metal Sound does **** with Clear Body).

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Rapid Spin
- Roar

Phazes and spins.

Donphan's cool.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 128 HP / 176 Atk / 136 Def / 68 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Hits hard with STAB'ed DE and also my sleep taker.
Maybe Shadow Ball > Rest and CB so you can risk CB Sleep Talk? Otherwise, I guess it's cool.


Blaziken really owns this team once Zappy goes down.

Gengar and Swampert go "lol" at some of this team, watch for that.

aipomkong
8th January 2006, 7:18 PM
You've got a good team here, and Metagross can kasplode on Blaziken.
Only edits:

Donphan's HP Rock should be replaced with Rock Slide, it may lose accuracy but the flinching is worth it.

If a fire type is brought into the fight it can take out Metagross and Hera and let Umbreons toxify your team,
so look out for that.

Other than that I see nothing else to edit, so good luck.

what would donphan flinch? Shuckle?

fire type switches in on hera, hera switches out, also no one worth battling uses toxic umbreon as it sucks

also btw non CB Meteor Mash does NOT ohko gengar whoever said it, and it'll just switch out

[Yunoehoo]
9th January 2006, 2:45 AM
I personally think Donphan sucks but whatever. HP grass for dos, considering a thunderbolt 2OHKOs most dragon OU iirc.

Brice Break>Facade for hera. How do faster celebis give you problems? Celebi can't do sh*t to gross. If you really hate faster celebis, get in forry>Donphan or duggy>gross or something.

Donphan rock okay ; ) Celebi seeds gross on the switch and stalls it to death, so yeah. But since i barely see any celebis with 296 speed, i guess i shouldnt be too worried about it. I changed HP Ice for HP grass on zappy to beat pert. Thanks for all the help so far.

DemonScythe
9th January 2006, 4:03 AM
']HP Ice has been on zapdos since CB sala really owns this team, and hera can somewhat take care of swampert anyway. Without Facade on hera, weezing would love this team as well. Donphan is really slow and will never flinch anything, so HP rock. lol toxic umbreon. Thanks for the replies though.
I suppose HP Ice is allright, up to you..
but Facade won't **** on weezing anymore since
most of them pack Flamethower on the switch and
seriously damage you. However Rockslide with Guts
is just as good cause you get a bonus Fliching ;)

Kaiser
10th January 2006, 12:49 AM
']Zapdos @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 124 HP / 148 Spd / 236 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Baton Pass
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

How the **** u have a CBmence weak with this,weez and gross around?hp hp grass

Weezing (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 200 HP / 56 Atk / 220 Def / 32 SAtk
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Flamethrower
- Haze
- Pain Split
- Sludge Bomb

I really got sick of fire blast missing. WoW really sucks when people switch to Hera or Milo.

Heracross (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Facade
- Focus Punch
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

Adamant,BB > Facade

Metagross @ Leftovers
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 140 HP / 232 Atk / 84 Spd / 52 SAtk
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Meteor Mash
- Pursuit

Sup gengar.

Donphan (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Atk / 160 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Rock]
- Rapid Spin
- Roar

Phazes and spins.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 128 HP / 176 Atk / 136 Def / 68 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Double-Edge
- Earthquake
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Hits hard with STAB'ed DE and also my sleep taker.


Blaziken really owns this team once Zappy goes down.

enas

-MK ;376;