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Tazzler
7th January 2006, 11:33 PM
Regice @ Leftovers ** Chrishelle
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 142 HP / 96 Def / 88 SAtk / 184 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Deoxys-L @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Def / 96 Spd / 70 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Knock Off
- Recover
- Taunt
- Toxic

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 80 HP / 180 Spd / 216 SAtk / 34 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Claw
- Hidden Power [Dark]
- Recover

Rayquaza @ Choice Band
Trait: Air Lock
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Rock Slide

Ho-oh @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 228 Spd / 252 SAtk / 30 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Sacred Fire
- Thunderbolt

Gengar (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Explosion
- Focus Punch
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb

Kaiser
8th January 2006, 3:23 AM
Deoxys-L sucks in my very own experience.

-MK ;376;

Hemp Man
8th January 2006, 3:26 AM
than your experince is bad >_>

Zora
8th January 2006, 5:50 AM
than your experince is bad >_>

Ubers are made for sweeping, defending loses focus. I argee with Kaiser (the SPPf member) on this one.

Gengar and Regice are not Ubers, put some real UBERs in there.

Kyogre is one of the best Ubers.

Where is a Mewtwo. If you have even one Uber, you qualify for UBER matches, and you will go agaisnt a Mewtwo most likely. Put him in there.

If you are looking for a decent tank, Lugia would do but too many Pokemon are already weak to Ice, but then again, Ubers have a reputation for repeating types, so repearing weaknesses. Also Keep HP[Dark]. Ubers have a lot of psychic, so you get the picture

chaos952
8th January 2006, 7:10 AM
One word for you: RAWR. ;)

Tazzler knows what I'm talking about.

Brown Bomber
8th January 2006, 7:27 AM
If you're using Ho-oh, put in a Groudon; Ho-oh is a mediocre uber without Groudon support, IMO.

Gengar is raped in ubers, use Blissey or a Shedinja in its place (probably Sheddy, since Regice is your only defense against Lati@s).

Hemp Man
8th January 2006, 8:05 AM
Shadow Ball/Recover/Sacred Fire/Earthquake>Drought+BeamFire combo imo.

Zora
8th January 2006, 8:12 AM
Shadow Ball/Recover/Sacred Fire/Earthquake>Drought+BeamFire combo imo.
But EQ won't do much with its nature.

Speaking of natures, never add to speed, it is pointless since EV's can cover speed, it is attack or other stats that usaually need to nature upgrade.

Brown Bomber
8th January 2006, 8:28 AM
Uh, what exactly is EQ going to be SE against in ubers? Besides, splitting EVs for Ho-oh isn't fun.

Anyway, Groudon owns, it's just icing on the cake on Ho-oh.

EDIT: OK, please don't ever comment on speed again, Zora.

SealElement
8th January 2006, 8:39 AM
But EQ won't do much with its nature.

Speaking of natures, never add to speed, it is pointless since EV's can cover speed, it is attack or other stats that usaually need to nature upgrade.
That's what the guy said with his Adamant Ninjask when the other guy pulled out a Jolly Ninjask.

Replace Gengar if anything with a Calm Mind Mewtwo or a Tanker Lugia.

DemonScythe
8th January 2006, 8:47 AM
Ho-oh
Brave@Choiceband
-Shadowball
-HPRock/HPFly
-Sacred Fire
-T-wave/Toxic/Ancient Power

Hemp Man
8th January 2006, 8:53 AM
Ho-Oh has higher Attack than Special Attacks and most ubers have Calm Mind too (i know hoh learns cm) >_>

Tazzler
8th January 2006, 6:57 PM
Regice @ Leftovers ** Chrishelle
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 142 HP / 96 Def / 88 SAtk / 184 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Lugia @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 192 HP / 144 Def / 100 SAtk / 74 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Whirlwind
- Recover

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 80 HP / 180 Spd / 216 SAtk / 34 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Claw
- Hidden Power [Dark]
- Recover

Rayquaza @ Choice Band
Trait: Air Lock
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Extremespeed
- Hidden Power [Bug]

Ho-oh @ Choice Band
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Sacred Fire
- Recover

Shedinja @ Lum Berry
Trait: Wonder Guard
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Hidden Power [Bug]
- Shadow Ball
- Protect

Brown Bomber
8th January 2006, 7:12 PM
Ho-Oh has higher Attack than Special Attacks and most ubers have Calm Mind too (i know hoh learns cm) >_>

Unlike Groudon, it doesn't get STAB.

aipomkong
8th January 2006, 8:20 PM
lol at people saying deoxys-l sucks

Hemp Man
8th January 2006, 9:32 PM
CB Recover wtf? Leftovers please.

Kaiser
9th January 2006, 1:48 AM
Regice @ Leftovers ** Chrishelle
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 142 HP / 96 Def / 88 SAtk / 184 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Psych Up
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Lugia @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 192 HP / 144 Def / 100 SAtk / 74 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Whirlwind
- Recover

Psychic is pointless because half of the ubers resists it imo.use bolt/beam

Latias (F) @ Soul Dew
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 80 HP / 180 Spd / 216 SAtk / 34 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Claw
- Hidden Power [Dark]
- Recover

I like safeguard but meh

Rayquaza @ Choice Band
Trait: Air Lock
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Extremespeed
- Hidden Power

[B]needs rock slide imo

Ho-oh @ Choice Band
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Sacred Fire
- Recover


Shedinja @ Lum Berry
Trait: Wonder Guard
EVs: 6 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Agility
- Hidden Power
- Shadow Ball
- Protect

[B]BP is cool

teh

-MK ;376;

Hemp Man
9th January 2006, 1:52 AM
Baton Pass + Agilty is illegal iirc.

chaos952
9th January 2006, 1:56 AM
No point in using Agility as you'll be forced to switch out anyways. Use Choice Band Shedinja.

Adamant Nature @ Leftovers
HP Bug
Shadow Ball
Filler
Filler

Kaiser
9th January 2006, 1:59 AM
Baton Pass + Agilty is illegal iirc.

i forgot to said that agility sucks for shed imo so BP > agility

-MK ;376;