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Golden Groudon
14th January 2006, 6:48 PM
Salamence (M) @ Choice Band ** Dragonwings
Trait: Intimidate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Fire Blast
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rock Slide

The adverage CBmence.

Celebi @ Leftovers ** Hourglass
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 172 HP / 48 Def / 136 Spd / 16 SAtk / 136 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Leech Seed
- Psychic
- Recover

DON'T suggest celejump because it is gay and claiming sets are gay.

Zapdos @ Leftovers ** Thunder Strike
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 16 Spd / 252 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Light Screen
- Rest
- Thunderbolt

Light Screen to help with boltbeam weak.

Blissey (F) @ Leftovers ** Fat Preacher
Trait: Natural Cure
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Def / 44 SDef
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Aromatherapy
- Seismic Toss
- Softboiled
- Thunder Wave

I don't need Ice Beam and I don't what you think.

Skarmory (M) @ Leftovers ** Chrome Wings
Trait: Keen Eye
EVs: 196 HP / 60 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Hidden Power [Flying]
- Rest
- Spikes
- Whirlwind

lol. Skarmbliss is overrated by nubs and underrated by experts.

Suicune @ Leftovers ** Mystic Water
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 56 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Rest
- Roar
- Surf

Spikes+Roar is cool and helps with by ddtar weakness.

Delta
14th January 2006, 7:21 PM
ZApdos needs Stalk if using rest. It also needs more speed and less HP.

You have problems with regice.

Owns sala.

Beams cele. (OHKO if weak, you can only seed it)

Bolts skarms and cune, and it can´t damage it even after CM

Owns Zappy no matter what.

With bliss down, you´ll have a hard time against it.

Golden Groudon
14th January 2006, 7:26 PM
ZApdos needs Stalk if using rest. It also needs more speed and less HP.

You have problems with regice.

Owns sala.

Beams cele. (OHKO if weak, you can only seed it)

Bolts skarms and cune, and it can´t damage it even after CM

Owns Zappy no matter what.

With bliss down, you´ll have a hard time against it.

Zapdos does NOT need sleeptalk with reat.

Good point about the regice weak but I (think) I can predict good enough. >_>

Delta
14th January 2006, 7:54 PM
Zapdos does NOT need sleeptalk with reat.

Good point about the regice weak but I (think) I can predict good enough. >_>

You sure about non-stal zapdos?

It´s very vulnerable while sleeping, adn you don´t have a cleric, so....

dynamo
14th January 2006, 8:04 PM
ATTN Lord Fierrus: Zapdos does not need sleep talk with rest. Sleep talk rest is a completely different set.

Counter skarm > spikes skarm.

The problem with roar instead of IB on cune is that if a Pokemon has water absorb you're screwed.

orangekows
14th January 2006, 8:57 PM
too bad spikes works awesomely with suicune, celebi and sometimes light screen zapdos

dynamo
14th January 2006, 10:40 PM
Ah, I forgot 'bout that. Okay, keep roar on cune and spikes on skarm.