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Hoenir
14th January 2006, 8:35 PM
Changes have been made...

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Inulumo
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 60 HP / 216 Spd / 234 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Ice]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

I just tested timid and I find it works better than modest.

Alakazam (F) @ Leftovers ** Demenspoon
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 252 SAtk
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Recover

I'm still iffy about fire punch, but Salamence hasn't given me too many problems lately.

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Amplus
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 204 HP / 16 Atk / 136 Def / 152 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Body Slam
- Curse
- Focus Punch
- Rest

Switch into another lax, curse+body slam them until they are forced to rest, then focus punch them off!

Marowak (F) @ Thick Club ** Speimperiosus
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 212 Atk / 252 Spd / 44 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Bonemerang
- Double-Edge
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

I likes outrunning Bliss, non-dd tar, and milotic w/ no speed EVs. (Speed EVs on Milo aren't that great IMO)

Charizard (M) @ Salac Berry ** Flammadraco
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 56 Spd / 200 SAtk
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Belly Drum
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Rock Slide

Adamant makes me barf, but it works -_-;;

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers ** Amopiscis
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 240 HP / 212 Def / 56 SAtk
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

Switch into a Weezing's Willowisp, then recover away.

Horn Drill
14th January 2006, 10:36 PM
Aromatheropy+Seismic Toss+Softboiled will kill Alakazam a long time before you can Calm Mind 6 times and 3HKO Blissey with Psychic. ._.

Fluorescent Adolescent
14th January 2006, 10:38 PM
Needs more recover to pull it off ;/

Hoenir
14th January 2006, 11:05 PM
K, should I get rid of ice punch or t-wave for recover?

Fluorescent Adolescent
15th January 2006, 12:03 AM
Thunderwave. It doesn't need it.

Delta
15th January 2006, 1:29 AM
Milotic needs more HP

for zam, iŽd go with the standard 6/252/252

Snorlax needs more Sdef

Not sure about marowak, iŽd use adamant adn less speed

Hoenir
15th January 2006, 4:17 AM
Not sure about marowak, iŽd use adamant adn less speed

I like to outspeed non-dd tyranitar, blissey and milotic...


Thunderwave. It doesn't need it.

K, got rid of t-wave for recover. Anything else?

orangekows
15th January 2006, 7:18 AM
So that's why I want help with them :D

Raikou @ Leftovers ** Inulumo
Trait: Pressure
EVs: 252 Spd / 200 SAtk / 57 SDef
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Substitute
- Thunderbolt

After 2-3 calm minds, almost no special attack breaks it's sub. I'm thinking about switching for HP ice so that Celebi doesn't stop my sweeping fun.

i like hp ice. timid also only enough for 352 spd, 336 hp

Alakazam (F) @ Leftovers ** Demenspoon
Trait: Synchronize
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Spd / 238 SAtk / 16 SDef
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Ice Punch
- Psychic
- Recover

Puts a dent/KOs blissey

fire punch is fun for metagross

Snorlax (M) @ Leftovers ** Amplus
Trait: Thick Fat
EVs: 172 HP / 238 Atk / 96 Def / 4 SDef
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Curse
- Focus Punch
- Rest
- Return

No, I don't need sub on this, Milotic can put it to sleep and Alakazam can paralyze. I need EV help...

body slam>return. enough for 512 hp/250 atk/200 def/rest in sdef... careful

Marowak (F) @ Thick Club ** Speimperiosus
Trait: Rock Head
EVs: 214 Atk / 252 Spd / 44 SDef
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Bonemerang
- Double-Edge
- Rock Slide
- Swords Dance

After one swords dance it can OHKO most things.

marowak is awesome but its so damn slow...


Charizard (M) @ Salac Berry ** Flammadraco
Trait: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk / 74 Spd / 184 SAtk
Lonely Nature (+Atk, -Def)
- Belly Drum
- Earthquake
- Flamethrower
- Rock Slide

I don't like adamant on bellyzard. Don't suggest it, as physical attacks kill it in one hit anyway. Fire blast's PP and accuracy was getting on my nerves.

adamant!!111. i wouldnt use charizard in OU tbh...

Milotic (F) @ Leftovers ** Amopiscis
Trait: Marvel Scale
EVs: 77 HP / 252 Def / 136 SAtk / 45 SDef
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Hypnosis
- Ice Beam
- Recover
- Surf

I had mirror coat on this thing, but Hypnosis worked better with snorlax. I was thinking about C-Ray over Hypnosis...

hypnosis is awesome. bold nature. 240 hp/212 def/rest in satk

i would use something like metagross over charizard... you could put swords dance celebi in somewhere and that makes agility metagross even cooler

Aromatheropy+Seismic Toss+Softboiled will kill Alakazam a long time before you can Calm Mind 6 times and 3HKO Blissey with Psychic. ._.
recover zam beats ice beam bliss 1 on 1. most bliss carry thunder wave though and thunder wave bliss WILL beat recover zam

Hemp Man
15th January 2006, 7:20 AM
char is ou iirc.

Hoenir
15th January 2006, 9:18 PM
what's wrong with return>body slam? I like stab, and 103 base power... I hardly need the paralyzing, as my defences usually last me until I can rest...

aipomkong
15th January 2006, 9:23 PM
never underestimate paralysis

Hoenir
15th January 2006, 9:25 PM
never underestimate paralysis

ok I'll give body slam a try...

I made some changes, I'll edit the first post...

Golden Groudon
16th January 2006, 3:33 AM
never underestimate paralysis

heil parahax asdf

Hoenir
17th January 2006, 2:04 AM
hmm, what about safeguard>something else on Zam to prevent T-Wave so I can Calm Mind when it uses seismic toss, and recover the wounds away...

aipomkong
17th January 2006, 5:20 PM
too situational and would die against anything not using seismic toss

Hoenir
20th January 2006, 1:23 AM
too situational and would die against anything not using seismic toss

Really? T-Wave/Toxic/WOW are common moves, so wouldn't a safeguard help against toxicstallers/wowstallers?

Carpetted!
20th January 2006, 2:14 AM
They won't really use Will-O-Wisp or toxic on zam seeing how fast it dies.

Pax Deorum
20th January 2006, 3:57 PM
and considering it has Synchronize

aipomkong
20th January 2006, 5:44 PM
statusing zam is like wasting a turn, seeing as all the will-o-wispers are beaten by it or beat it by a ohko

weezing < psychic
dusclops > zam with shadow ball

plus everything is like a 2hko at most on zam

Hoenir
21st January 2006, 3:49 AM
and considering it has Synchronize

Yeah, should I get keen eye>synchonize or keep sync?

orangekows
21st January 2006, 5:24 AM
you mean inner focus? inner focus sucks. keep syncronize and use fire punch or something. syncronize is an awesome trait, you dont wanna waste it

Hoenir
22nd January 2006, 11:17 PM
ok. Thanks.