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PiPikachu
24th January 2006, 5:58 PM
Yes folks it appears this coming fall the WB is to close along with UPN

What this means for Pokémon in the states im unsure of as i dont live there but seem to think that this will affect it somehow.

Anyways heres whats quoted from Digital spy

The WB and UPN television networks in America are to be closed by their respective parent companies, it was announced today.

Warner Bros. and CBS Corp have announced they plan to join forces and create a new fifth terrestrial network named CW, to launch in the autumn.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds28375.html

Discuss

PiPikachu

Jesse GS the II
24th January 2006, 6:01 PM
Well, if it's true (I take every single news article posted around here with a grain of salt...well, more like a truckload of salt after that whole "4Kids is going to stop dubbing the show" thing that turned out to be totally false), I'm guessing that all the children's programming will move to the new merged network.

Solar Crimson
24th January 2006, 6:02 PM
Are you serious?! This just basically screws up everything! I'm concerned more with the fates of shows like Everybody Hates Chris, Half & Half, and WWE Smackdown! than Pokémon, though.

My guess is lack of funding and/or ratings.

The Big Al
24th January 2006, 6:03 PM
Somehow, when they cancelled Enterprise, I knew UPN would die. As for the WB. They've already cancelled it here in Mount Pleasant because they barrowed an NBC station.

Ledian_X
24th January 2006, 6:04 PM
They're not closing. UPN and WB are merging. Story's legit. It's on Yahoo News right now. Who knows what's gonna happen to the programming. Pokemon though will more than likely stay as it's a proven cash cow.

LX

MaskedManAbsolkid
24th January 2006, 6:11 PM
Digital spy is a very reliable source.

'The new channel will aim for the 18-34 demographic, be called "The CW," and launch in the autumn after The WB and UPN cease operations in September 2006.'

So it'll end around the start of the battle frontier series? What does 18-34 demographic mean? Is it an age group?

Jesse GS the II
24th January 2006, 6:12 PM
They're not closing. UPN and WB are merging. Story's legit. It's on Yahoo News right now. Who knows what's gonna happen to the programming. Pokemon though will more than likely stay as it's a proven cash cow.

LX

Thought so. You think people would learn not to jump to conclusions about news articles like this, but no.

Of course, now that you've straightened it out, there's probably still gonna be fifty more posts of "OMG teh WB iz closing!!!1!1!!" and rumors will run rampant across the board regarding the imminent cancellation of "Pokémon". People will cry, and probably start flame wars on unrelated topics. Dogasu and Edward Elric will have their hands full trying to set everything straight, but nobody will listen. And I predict that I'll most likely have to take another one-week vacation from the boards in order to escape the mind-numbing idiocy.

Just an estimated guess.

ghost master
24th January 2006, 6:12 PM
they better keep my smallville on their new station or else. Pokemon I dont care they can give it to Toonami.

Well, if it's true (I take every single news article posted around here with a grain of salt...well, more like a truckload of salt after that whole "4Kids is going to stop dubbing the show" thing that turned out to be totally false), I'm guessing that all the children's programming will move to the new merged network. that article was just misintrepreted. This seems alot more official. Anyway when you think about UPN and WB together would be alot better in some aspects since there are some plain crappy shows on both and there are some good ones they also usually pick up all the shows that are over like friends, the older malcolm in the middle episodes, 8 simple rules for dating my teenage daughter, etc. so its better in the long run.

Thought so. You think people would learn not to jump to conclusions about news articles like this, but no.pipikachu pretty much stated they were merging. They said they were closing their studios and then UPN and WB were combining. That sounds like merging to me.

Jesse GS the II
24th January 2006, 6:14 PM
Anyway when you think about UPN and WB together would be alot better in some aspects since there are some plain crappy shows on both and there are some good ones they also usually pick up all the shows that are over like friends, the older malcolm in the middle episodes, 8 simple rules for dating my teenage daughter, etc. so its better in the long run.

Wait...if you're listing good shows that would likely get picked up by the new network, why would you include "Friends" in there? Since when was that show ever good?

But I digress.

PDL
24th January 2006, 6:16 PM
Pokemon will still air on this new channel...


The CW will operate on The WB's current scheduling model. On weekdays, the network will broadcast programming from 3pm-5pm as well as 8pm-10pm. On Saturdays, a 5 hour kids programming block will air from 7am-12 noon. On Sunday, programming will air from 5pm-10pm.

I'm worried weither I'll be able to get this new channel, because I'm not positive weither I get UPN... I'll have to check...

Kanadian Kyuubi
24th January 2006, 6:18 PM
(oops, got beaten! too slow!)


The CW will operate on The WB's current scheduling model. On weekdays, the network will broadcast programming from 3pm-5pm as well as 8pm-10pm. On Saturdays, a 5 hour kids programming block will air from 7am-12 noon. On Sunday, programming will air from 5pm-10pm.

Don't worry, Pokemon is still going to be there, and hopefully Pokemon Advanced Frontier (if that's going to be the name for season 9). Also, I happen to have BOTH UPN and WB, so that would be great!

ghost master
24th January 2006, 6:27 PM
Wait...if you're listing good shows that would likely get picked up by the new network, why would you include "Friends" in there? Since when was that show ever good?

But I digress. I meant those are shows they pick up since they got cancelled but, I think shows such as top model, Smallville, Everwood, 7th heaven, Veronica Mars, etc., are shows likely to still air.

xdragongamerx
24th January 2006, 7:31 PM
Well This means I get my Everybody Hates Chris, WWE! SD! and Pokemon. But the thing is, Kids CW or CW Kids?

Pikachu Fan Number Nine
24th January 2006, 11:10 PM
And for people in Memphis (WLMT), Columbus (WWHO), and Providence (WLWC)-along with any other markets with a UPN affiliate but no Kids WB, this will finally be their chance to see Pokemon.

Thriller
24th January 2006, 11:23 PM
Meh, I guess this (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=104049) thread is pretty pointless now.

I think this is interesting news nonetheless.

Alright, I suppose this thread was made first, thing is this news really does belong in the Entertainment section as it really isn't Pokemon Anime News.

But not trying to start an argument here.

Geodude
24th January 2006, 11:29 PM
On the US version of Whose Line is it Anyway, they used to always joke about the poor quality of UPN's programming. Bet they're laughing now that it's merging. :p

ハルカ and ゴンベ
24th January 2006, 11:34 PM
Hey as long as Pokémon stays on Local channels and on at a reasonable hour im fine...But i swear if it goes to Cable/satellite tv There'll be hell...>< (Damn my no cable)

PDL
24th January 2006, 11:41 PM
this merger will reach new heights of mediocredy :\

MasterJedi
24th January 2006, 11:46 PM
What fun, now I'll have to worry if Smallville, Everwood, Supernatural and Pokemon will come back, great. -_-

YoshiAngemon
24th January 2006, 11:46 PM
Well, let me sound crazy, like Meowth and a fantasy of his, about this.

Imagine da Boss finding that the Kids WB station that airs Pokémon has a shoddy picture quality! Frazzled by this, he'll say "Hmmm, this station is terrible in picture quality." But once The CW is formed, It'll be the beginning of Kids CW (or CW Kids), and a choice of selecting the right channel for this situation, and when he finds the OTHER channel has a better quality, he'll say... "For informing me of this merger, Meowth and friends will have a decent bonus in their next pay!"

Well, it's not much, but at least it's being creative! Unless one of those channels gets eliminated, and the extra channel will end up replaced by Boomerang or a Toonami Network in the US.

Hidden Mew
25th January 2006, 12:48 AM
This is really important news. I was worried that I wouldn't know what channel Pokemon would be on this fall. Now, knowing that both UPN and WB are merging, I can breath a bit easier. I know that I get both channels, but I'm not sure if they would use a new numbered channel. Hopefully, they'll keep it at a channel where I wouldn't need digital cable or something like that to get the channel. If they keep Pokemon in the timeline it is in right now, then I'll be happy, as well as other people here would.

Kamex
25th January 2006, 12:59 AM
Kinda ironic, Pokemon's first batch of episodes aired on UPN, before it was moved to KidsWB.

Pikachu Fan Number Nine
25th January 2006, 1:02 AM
Actually, the first 40 eps aired in syndication-and some UPN affiliates happened to pick it up

RaikousThunder
25th January 2006, 1:09 AM
I got a little nervous when the news on tv said WB and UPN would be merging to make a new channel. I just hope it stays on local tv. WB and UPN are both local channels i think so they should keep it local. If it goes to cable or if pokemon moves to only Cartoon Network im screwed. I need my weekly dose of pokemon. Dont anyone tell me to get DVDs or Cable cause i dont have the money for it. Seems WB was already setting up for this merger by moving the cartoons to only Saturday and adding an hour. I dont mind if the two channels merge as long as they stay on local tv but it seems a lot of shows are going to be cut. I know UPN doesnt have many hit shows but WB has quite a few. I dont think they will take it off local channels since a lot of people watch it but you never know. Digital cable is becoming a big thing even though its so darn expensive. Just dont take it off local channels please!

ShiningClefairy
25th January 2006, 1:14 AM
LMAO at this irony.

WB owns the Drew Carey Show now. Drew Carey bashes UPN on his show Whose Line is it Anyways? (which is aired on ABC anyways). You think this will affect Drew Carey? I love the Drew Carey show...

CoolTrainerTerry
25th January 2006, 1:16 AM
I found this out literally five minutes ago. Good news is, Pokemon will still be airing. Bad news, I hope it's on network television, CW that is. But, Pokemon IS going to CW this fall, so we don't have to worry about that. Kids WB, home of Pokemon, R.I.P. 1996 - 2006

♥~Darkness Within~♥
25th January 2006, 1:18 AM
AWW! Hell no That's just ******** unbelievable, taking a way Pokemon from WBkids that's crap

Kamex
25th January 2006, 1:18 AM
I don't think the people who decided to do this would cut out a bunch of their viewers by being on a channel that's not as accessible as it had been. That would be bad for the fans, AND themselves.

Pikachu Fan Number Nine
25th January 2006, 1:43 AM
Also, FOX Broadcasting, owners of LA FOX affiliate KTTV and UPN affiliate KCOP, could be pretty upset, because FOX had signed a deal to keep UPN on LA's KCOP until at least 2010. KCOP would also be upset after so many years of loyalty.

Anyways, Pokemon will still air because of a contract. I know it's pretty shocking, but I could take the new independent stations and start my own TV network.

Psychic Venusaur
25th January 2006, 3:30 AM
Kids WB, home of Pokemon, R.I.P. 1996 - 2006

Pokemon was on UPN from late 98 to early 99, and on Kids WB 99-present.

As long as Pokemon is still there, and I can access the channel which I'll probably be able to, I don't mind. The channel probably won't be a cable channel, since both the WB and UPN aren't.

Pikachu Fan Number Nine
25th January 2006, 3:37 AM
Pokemon was on UPN from late 98 to early 99, and on Kids WB 99-present.

Again, the first 40 eps actually aired in syndication-and some UPN affiliates happened to pick it up

MidnightScott
25th January 2006, 3:42 AM
Yall keep forgetting that there will be a 5 Hour Time Block for us "Kids" according to the article. http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060124/bs_nm/media_cbs_warner1_dc

I'm not worried - if anything I hope it moves to Cartoon Network because I dislike all the other shows on WB. We dont even get UPN in Austin, but they have it in Houston (I never watched it though, too boring)

~Scott;229;

Jesse GS the II
25th January 2006, 4:44 AM
AWW! Hell no That's just ******** unbelievable, taking a way Pokemon from WBkids that's crap

What the heck are you complaining about? The show's still going to be on. And nobody's taking the show away from Kids' WB; the point is that, come Fall 2006, there'll be no Kids' WB anymore because there isn't going to be a WB network anymore - it's merging with UPN to create one network, which is where "Pokémon" will air from then on.

It's not that hard to understand. You don't need to make it this complicated, folks.

Swifty
25th January 2006, 6:13 AM
Less competition in the network television market. BLAH. :\ We used to have NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, UPN (Owned by CBS), and WB. Now it's just NBC, ABC, CBS, and Fox since WB and UPN are now out of the picture under the auspices of CBS.

Poor KCOP in the Los Angeles region. KTLA is WB's flagship affiliate TV station on the West Coast, most likely because the WB Studios are like, right there in Burbank. They're going definitely are going to pick up CW while the poor UPN affiliate KCOP gets nuttin'.


The network will provide 13 hours of prime-time programming to the newly affiliated stations, adopting the WB's present programming schedule: 8-10pm Monday to Friday (all times ET/PT), 5-10pm Sundays, 3-5pm weekday afternoons, and a five-hour Saturday morning animation block. Specific programming has not yet been formally confirmed, although the two networks' strongest series, such as Gilmore Girls, Smallville, Veronica Mars, Everybody Hates Chris, and others have been cited in the media as possible components in the Fall 2006 season. WWE Friday Night SmackDown! is "expected to play a role" on the schedule, according to a press release, but any carriage is subject to negotiations between WWE and the new network.

I'm rather curious as to how they'll brand their block of Saturday Morning Cartoons. I doubt they're going to stick with the "Kid's WB" brand, considering they're no longer part of the entity known as the "WB", but now the "CW."

Let's look forward to Kid's CW peoples. All the while, I'll stick with BitTorrenting my episodes because I can never get up before 1:00 PM on Saturdays (Hangovers).

Lil Brother
25th January 2006, 6:23 AM
Gah, Kids' WB keeps changing. First the lack of weekdays, the likely name change... Stop ruining the way things have been since the beginning! :p

CyberCubed
25th January 2006, 6:24 AM
Maybe they'll finally air Chronicles in the U.S. after the change.

Pikachu90000
25th January 2006, 6:28 AM
That's just sweet. I recive KSTW(UPN) here but not WTWB(WB). KSTW is going to be a CW affliate and now that I know that Pokemon will be on CW, I won't have to watch YTV anymore.

Pikachu Fan Number Nine
25th January 2006, 6:32 AM
Less competition in the network television market. BLAH. :\ We used to have NBC, ABC, CBS, Fox, UPN (Owned by CBS), and WB. Now it's just NBC, ABC, CBS, and Fox since WB and UPN are now out of the picture under the auspices of CBS.

Poor KCOP in the Los Angeles region. KTLA is WB's flagship affiliate TV station on the West Coast, most likely because the WB Studios are like, right there in Burbank. They're going definitely are going to pick up CW while the poor UPN affiliate KCOP gets nuttin'.

Yeah, and after how loyal UPN was to KCOP-and KCOP's owners, News Corp, signed an 8-year pact in 2002 to keep UPN on KCOP. In fact, News Corp could file a lawsuit to block the merger from happening.

Dogasu
25th January 2006, 6:36 AM
Wait...if you're listing good shows that would likely get picked up by the new network, why would you include "Friends" in there? Since when was that show ever good?

You win this thread.

Anyways, I really wish some of you people would learn how to read a goddamn press release and could go at least one week without prophesizing the end of Pokemon on American TV. The show is still going to be airing on local TV (that's what "terrestrial channel" means, Hidden Mew and RaikousThunder), so really, nothing's going to change.

*sigh* I guess I'm going to have to update my sig once again. It's really starting to get crowded...

Solar Crimson
25th January 2006, 5:47 PM
Are you serious?! This just basically screws up everything! I'm concerned more with the fates of shows like Everybody Hates Chris, Half & Half, and WWE Smackdown! than Pokémon, though.

My guess is lack of funding and/or ratings.
Okay, maybe I overreacted here. But I still don't see how it'll work, unless they expand Prime Time by a hour (making it 3 hours like NBC and ABC). That would be a good decision, IMO.

RaikousThunder
25th January 2006, 10:15 PM
You win this thread.

Anyways, I really wish some of you people would learn how to read a goddamn press release and could go at least one week without prophesizing the end of Pokemon on American TV. The show is still going to be airing on local TV (that's what "terrestrial channel" means, Hidden Mew and RaikousThunder), so really, nothing's going to change.

*sigh* I guess I'm going to have to update my sig once again. It's really starting to get crowded...
I didnt think it was going off the air. I just didnt know if it would be on local stations but i figured it would be sinc UPN and WB are. I read the news on Yahoo.com. I dont remember seeing the terrestrial thing on there. I checked up on the WB station by me which is owned by Tribune and i think it said Tribune has a 10 year contract to show CW on its stations so it will probably stay on the same station for me. September is a while away so im not going to really worry about it right now.

Hidden Mew
26th January 2006, 12:58 AM
You win this thread.

Anyways, I really wish some of you people would learn how to read a goddamn press release and could go at least one week without prophesizing the end of Pokemon on American TV. The show is still going to be airing on local TV (that's what "terrestrial channel" means, Hidden Mew and RaikousThunder), so really, nothing's going to change.

*sigh* I guess I'm going to have to update my sig once again. It's really starting to get crowded...

I didn't think that it was going off the air either. I knew that WB is a local channel, but I forgot if UPN was or not. I'm glad that nothing is going to seriously change, besides the name. I'm sorry if my earlier comment gave the wrong message. I was just expressing how I felt after I found out that WB was not going off the air. I'm also sorry if I partly caused the update in your signature. I know that there is a lot of damage control for the issue of 4KIDS still working with the show. The short version, I'm sorry if my comment made you or anyone else mad or caused another large update in your sig.

megakevinexe
27th January 2006, 1:26 AM
Let's just hope they'll still show Pokemon... :(

Pikachu Fan Number Nine
27th January 2006, 1:27 AM
Don't worry, they will