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Draco Malfoy
2nd February 2006, 1:13 PM
This thread is about which shonen anime you like best. As the title suggests, you must vote the most favourable anime from the list. You must vote in the poll and also give one good reason why you like it. You must also choose one favourite character from your chosen anime and explain why you like that character. Noobs are NOT allowed. Note the poll closes in 62 days time. This thread will be locked when the poll has stopped. Here is the list:

Naruto
Inuyasha
Dragon Ball (Z/GT)
Full Metal Alchemist
Hunter x Hunter
Pokemon
Digimon
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Gundam Seed
Detective Connan/ Case Closed

Chris
2nd February 2006, 1:21 PM
Pokémon and Digimon aren't shonen anime. They're targeted towards both genders. o_O

That Scary Clefairy
2nd February 2006, 2:26 PM
Neither is Evangelion. It a mecha series. It also aim for both girl and boys.

Haruka's Swimsuit
2nd February 2006, 5:07 PM
Neither is Evangelion. It a mecha series. It also aim for both girl and boys.

Especially if they like boobs.
Personally, I'm a fan of all things involving Asuka and/or Germans, so I guess I'm in the target audience.

That Scary Clefairy
2nd February 2006, 7:10 PM
If you like thing involving Germans, check out Hellsing manga and soon OVA cause they have nazi in them.

HK
2nd February 2006, 9:26 PM
Neither is Evangelion. It a mecha series. It also aim for both girl and boys.

Lol, "Kaworu and Shinji = lurv." But that's besides the point, and the point is that Evangelion is a shounen anime, considering the amount of fan service and... fan boy-ism (I hate moronic Rei fan boys after looking into the fandom... ugh). Not exactly a typical one, but a shounen series nonetheless (mecha series also seem to be synonymous with shounen series), albeit few of the teenage boys watching it would understand it without it being explained to them.

About the thread itself, you don't have One Piece or Trigun up there, and yet Digimon and Pokemon? I weep.

Haruka's Swimsuit
2nd February 2006, 10:09 PM
If you like thing involving Germans, check out Hellsing manga and soon OVA cause they have nazi in them.

Well, I already own the first three volumes. No Nationalists yet (well, at least not German ones), but I do a recall a crazed Scotsman... or was he Irish?

EDIT: And I didn't mean the Nationalist Socialists when I said "all things involving... Germans." Being of German descent myself, I enjoy seeing and reading about things regarding Deustchland and its people.




Lol, "Kaworu and Shinji = lurv." But that's besides the point, and the point is that Evangelion is a shounen anime, considering the amount of fan service and... fan boy-ism (I hate moronic Rei fan boys after looking into the fandom... ugh). Not exactly a typical one, but a shounen series nonetheless (mecha series also seem to be synonymous with shounen series), albeit few of the teenage boys watching it would understand it without it being explained to them.

I'm curious about something, is Gundam/Eva really typical of giant mecha series? I've only seen one or two non-Gundam series, but I'm curious; is the male protagonist with too much angst/mental problems usually a theme in giant mecha series or have Gundam and Eva done that on their own?

Skiks
2nd February 2006, 10:16 PM
Anyways it's obvious I picked Hunter X Hunter. Now the reason why I like this series is simple. The hunter exam intrigued me a lot. That is what got me hooked. Then I was like how could they make it more interesting after the hunters exam. Well with the introduction of nen I got my answer. With nen any character can win a battle with the right ability and tactics used. You don't have to level up your aura to win. (Although it's preferred that you do) In this anime the fights aren't that long but they are very entertaining to watch. Can anyone replace digimon and pokemon to something like One Piece and Trigun. o.o;

Dogasu
2nd February 2006, 10:52 PM
I'm curious about something, is Gundam/Eva really typical of giant mecha series? I've only seen one or two non-Gundam series, but I'm curious; is the male protagonist with too much angst/mental problems usually a theme in giant mecha series or have Gundam and Eva done that on their own?

The protagonists of the various Macross aren't all angsty teenagers. They're just pilots who always find themselves caught up in a love triangle between an older woman and a young singer.

HK
2nd February 2006, 11:23 PM
Well, I already own the first three volumes. No Nationalists yet (well, at least not German ones), but I do a recall a crazed Scotsman... or was he Irish?

You're talking about the television series. The OVA that is being put out follows the manga much more closely and will put the television series to shame once it is done. Oh, and the man that you're referring to is Alexander Anderson.


EDIT: And I didn't mean the Nationalist Socialists when I said "all things involving... Germans." Being of German descent myself, I enjoy seeing and reading about things regarding Deustchland and its people.

Meh, I feel the same way since I'm damn near about fifty percent German.


I'm curious about something, is Gundam/Eva really typical of giant mecha series? I've only seen one or two non-Gundam series, but I'm curious; is the male protagonist with too much angst/mental problems usually a theme in giant mecha series or have Gundam and Eva done that on their own?

Dogasu's already pointed Macross out, but I might as well comment on Gundam and Evangelion.

Well, consider that the Gundam series first came out in the late seventies (or possibly a few years before that... my memory is foggy here), and then a few decades later we see other mecha anime that is a bit more distinctive than Gundam, the most popular one being Evangelion. Evangelion itself takes a lot of things from previous Gundam series (and no, not just angsty, teenage pilots, either. I'm talking about some aspects of plot) and expands itself on that while invoking some psychology in it (in a way still keeping with the whole 'angst' theme). Then, as years go by, we see anime that are similar in the flow, story, and characters that Evangelion put out -- i.e. RahXephon and Fafner, to name a few.

To sum it all up, blame it on the Gundam series for establishing the archetype, and Evangelion for further enforcing it. Then again, I truly appreciate Evangelion mostly for the fact that it deals so much with psychology and pays homage to Freud and Jung (although, I've never heard any interviews stating that Anno specifically said any of that...) rather than what came before it (originality is a delusion, people).

Oh, I didn't mention my choice the first time around, did I? Well, I would hope that it would be obvious that Neon Genesis Evangelion is my favorite out of the ones listed (including One Piece and Trigun, ftw). I love psychology and Evangelion deals with it amazingly (despite the fact that the Freudian style of self-realization became monotonous at times), and the characters themselves are potrayed in a way that I can't helped but be fascinated by. The ending of the series (The End of Evangelion is the official ending due to the fact that the script for the final two episodes were the basis for the movie, so I'm going by that) was simply stunning to me. The only other series that comes to my mind that gave me such a satisfying ending was when I read Monster, and both of them are at the top of my list for anime and manga (Monster for manga, and Neon Genesis Evangelion for anime).

... I tend to ramble on a lot, so if you have read my entire post, know that you can say that you have real patience.

Chris
2nd February 2006, 11:41 PM
I believe the Gundam series to blame for all the teenage, mellowdramatic angst would be Gundam Wing. >_> Blame Gundam SEED for pushing it even further. :s

HK
2nd February 2006, 11:59 PM
Nope, try going back even further. Try going back before both myself and you, Chris, were even born.

The original Mobile Suit Gundam is what I blame for that, and also considering that a fair share of plot points from that series were used in Evangelion... well, I think you have your winner. Sure, it doesn't mean that others had to copy that style and approach, but it started the phenomenon.

... On the topic itself, I wonder how many are going to choose Naruto and Dragon Ball... ugh. -___-

Yes, I'm mad at the fact that there are very few fans of Hunter X Hunter and Neon Genesis Evangelion here. Ah well, can't expect too much from a Pokemon forum, eh?

That Scary Clefairy
3rd February 2006, 2:47 AM
Lol, "Kaworu and Shinji = lurv." But that's besides the point, and the point is that Evangelion is a shounen anime, considering the amount of fan service and... fan boy-ism (I hate moronic Rei fan boys after looking into the fandom... ugh). Not exactly a typical one, but a shounen series nonetheless (mecha series also seem to be synonymous with shounen series), albeit few of the teenage boys watching it would understand it without it being explained to them.

Understandable. Just Eva,despite it crazy fandom, never came across to me as shounen for some reason. :/


About the thread itself, you don't have One Piece or Trigun up there, and yet Digimon and Pokemon? I weep.
Unless you're refering to the manga verison, then yes Trigun ANIME is shounan. The manga is actually bordering near seinan. Then again you can tell by the content and atmosphere in the latest chapters.


, I already own the first three volumes. No Nationalists yet (well, at least not German ones), but I do a recall a crazed Scotsman... or was he Irish?

EDIT: And I didn't mean the Nationalist Socialists when I said "all things involving... Germans." Being of German descent myself, I enjoy seeing and reading about things regarding Deustchland and its people.

Alexdander Anderson is Irish in the manga. In the anime he has a scottish accent. I know of a manga that may not be German but it based on Demark and the manga is called Vinland Saga, if you looking for historical accurete. HK and I are reading it now. Pretty good since it by the same creator of Planetes.


Yes, I'm mad at the fact that there are very few fans of Hunter X Hunter and Neon Genesis Evangelion here. Ah well, can't expect too much from a Pokemon forum, eh?

I know that feeling...... :p

Haruka's Swimsuit
3rd February 2006, 3:29 AM
I believe the Gundam series to blame for all the teenage, mellowdramatic angst would be Gundam Wing. >_> Blame Gundam SEED for pushing it even further. :s

Sorry, but as Hellkorn said, the original MSG set the tone. Amaro was rather angst-ridden and tended to freeze or freak out at times, but that is quite understandable. He's a young man suddenly surrounded by the death and destruction of war; the animation style of the series may have been rather bright, but the story was much darker than many of its peers at the time.





You're talking about the television series. The OVA that is being put out follows the manga much more closely and will put the television series to shame once it is done. Oh, and the man that you're referring to is Alexander Anderson.


Alexdander Anderson is Irish in the manga. In the anime he has a scottish accent. I know of a manga that may not be German but it based on Demark and the manga is called Vinland Saga, if you looking for historical accurete. HK and I are reading it now. Pretty good since it by the same creator of Planetes.

Irish, really? I haven't actually seen the anime yet, but from the way he talks in the manga... I mean, the way it looks, written- I thought it was a thick Scottish Broque.

That Scary Clefairy
3rd February 2006, 3:43 AM
Sorry, but as Hellkorn said, the original MSG set the tone. Amaro was rather angst-ridden and tended to freeze or freak out at times, but that is quite understandable. He's a young man suddenly surrounded by the death and destruction of war; the animation style of the series may have been rather bright, but the story was much darker than many of its peers at the time.








Irish, really? I haven't actually seen the anime yet, but from the way he talks in the manga... I mean, the way it looks, written- I thought it was a thick Scottish Broque.

It's Irish cause on DH forum, the editor of Hellsing told them it was Irish. Plus I'm part Irish and know the accent well.

RED1992
3rd February 2006, 7:12 AM
LOL how da hell did Pokemon get 2 votes... It's the worst anime ever. And GT doesn't even count as a part of DB. It's the second worst anime, right behind Pokemon. Pokemon's a dumb kiddy. GT sucked because it wasn't based on a manga. Same goes for Pokemon and Digimon. They both suck dicks.

Chris
3rd February 2006, 7:18 AM
LOL how da hell did Pokemon get 2 votes... It's the worst anime ever. And GT doesn't even count as a part of DB. It's the second worst anime, right behind Pokemon. Pokemon's a dumb kiddy. GT sucked because it wasn't based on a manga. Same goes for Pokemon and Digimon. They both suck dicks.
Keep it up again and I'll make sure you get a permanant ban.

RED1992
3rd February 2006, 7:19 AM
How do I know if I have any warnings?

Chris
3rd February 2006, 7:32 AM
The fact that I had to tell you about your posts should be enough to tell you to cut the crap out.

HK
3rd February 2006, 9:27 PM
I have come to the conclusion that RED1992 cannot even read. If he could, then he would see that Pokemon has zero votes so far.

Anyway... the top two current favorite shounen series so far in this poll? Naruto and Dragon Ball... I don't know why something as small as this is upsetting me, but it just is...

Ugh, whatever. I'll complain about it the next time that I see it go up in favor of these two again. -___-

RED1992
3rd February 2006, 9:39 PM
Oops! Sry I got Hunterx mixed up with poke.

Juputoru
4th February 2006, 3:50 AM
The fact that Detective Conan got a mention in this poll makes my soul sing inside. Although...it doesn't really strike me as shonen. Maybe I'm just too used to seeing shonen series being full of action and fights and such...which is pretty much the polar opposite of DC, with its detailed explainations of how each crime was pulled off, why the alibi fails, etc...basically, lots and LOTS of dialogue, and not much action. (Aside from the movies, which have quite a few exploding bombs and buildings on fire in them :P) But I digress. :S

As for the anime that I'd consider more as shonen...FMA, I guess. Naruto started off well, but the recent filler is just...ugh. And I really should get around to watching HunterxHunter. :<

xXFallenButterflyXx
4th February 2006, 4:27 AM
As much as I love Inuyasha, my vote goes toward Naruto. I just LOVE the anime. Fullmetal Alchemist looks pretty awesome too.

~;173; Fallen

MagicBox
4th February 2006, 4:35 AM
The fact that Detective Conan got a mention in this poll makes my soul sing inside. Although...it doesn't really strike me as shonen. Yeah, Detective Conan is just as easily enjoyable for girls as it is guys, so it doesn't really count as shonen. I'm just happy it was included in something, since it's hardly ever mentioned around these forums. You've got a good point though, it's probably not as popular because it's a more diologue-oriented show.

I guess besides Detective Conan, my favorite from that list is Fullmetal Alchemist, followed by Dragon Ball/Z/GT.

That Scary Clefairy
4th February 2006, 5:05 AM
Yeah, Detective Conan is just as easily enjoyable for girls as it is guys, so it doesn't really count as shonen. I'm just happy it was included in something, since it's hardly ever mentioned around these forums. You've got a good point though, it's probably not as popular because it's a more diologue-oriented show.

I guess besides Detective Conan, my favorite from that list is Fullmetal Alchemist, followed by Dragon Ball/Z/GT.

Detective Conan is indeed a shonan series since it runs in Shonen Sunday. Though it can appeal to girls, it mostly aim for boys hence why it a shonan series.

Justineer
4th February 2006, 5:25 AM
I'm really sad Rurouni Kenshin wasn't included! Rurouni Kenshin is the best! I can't really decide if Rurouni Kenshin isn't on the list. Not that Rurouni Kenshin is the only anime I like, but I just can't choose between Digimon and Naruto. I don't mean to sound conceded, but I have the feeling this was inspired by the poll I started.

That Scary Clefairy
4th February 2006, 5:33 AM
I agree with you there, justineer.

Justineer
4th February 2006, 5:45 AM
Thank you! ^^ What part do you agree on: Rurouni Kenshin or this poll based on mine?
Edit: or not being able to decide between Naruto and Digimon? Just wondering.

Sendoh
4th February 2006, 6:22 PM
Out of all those, my favorites has to be Naruto(obviously) FMA and Hunter X Hunter (The Hunter exam arc is awesome, especially the test where they had to get each other's numbers...Hisoka pwns also.)

Those three animes, simply has the best story (in my opinion) out of all of them. Their characters are well thought out, and the art is magnificent.

I'm not really a fan of the Dragonball series though. :(
And Inuyasha's kinda "meh" in my opinion. ^__^

Rufinito18
4th February 2006, 6:49 PM
Naruto is the best...specially in japanese...

Neji's and Lee's voices in the dub hurt my ears..they dont suit them

and you forgot BLEACH!
*glares*

Skiks
4th February 2006, 7:45 PM
Naruto is the best...specially in japanese...

Neji's and Lee's voices in the dub hurt my ears..they dont suit them

and you forgot BLEACH!
*glares*
Lee's is debatable but Neji's voice is okay. o_o I totally forgot about Bleach. <<;

Justineer
4th February 2006, 10:20 PM
Speaking of the voices from Naruto, people were complaining about Naruto's dub voice before the Naruto anime premiered in the U.S.. where'd they hear it?

MagicBox
4th February 2006, 11:03 PM
Speaking of the voices from Naruto, people were complaining about Naruto's dub voice before the Naruto anime premiered in the U.S.. where'd they hear it?They saw a commercial for the show's premiere, heard Naruto say two words, and automatically assumed it would be bad. It turned out quite good, in my opinion.

Heh, and I didn't know Detective Conan ran in Shonen Sunday. My bad. X_x;

zonic the hedgehog
4th February 2006, 11:38 PM
Toughie... I'm at a hard decision between Hunter X Hunter, Naruto, FMA, and Detective Conan. -_-;

Well, I'm addicted to Naruto stuff right now, although I remember being highly into Detective Conan awhile back, and Hunter X Hunter before that (we seriously need the anime release of this in the USA, as long as it's on [adult swim]).

I guess I'll go with Naruto for now. However, if this was about two months ago, I would've gone with Detective Conan.



Neji's and Lee's voices in the dub hurt my ears..they dont suit them

Neji's isn't TOO bad, although Lee's voice could be a bit higher (from the way he acts, anyway). Then again, I never really had Neji to be my fav character.
Rock Lee all the way! XP

Edit: Oh, I wonder if we'll have another one of these threads, except with Shojo anime.
That'd be interesting. Although I wonder how many will try to pick Sailor Moon. DX

That Scary Clefairy
4th February 2006, 11:45 PM
Thank you! ^^ What part do you agree on: Rurouni Kenshin or this poll based on mine?
Edit: or not being able to decide between Naruto and Digimon? Just wondering.

The RK part.

Kasaioni
6th February 2006, 9:51 PM
haha! Inuyasha beat everyone but, naruto, full metal alchemist and D.B. :D(at the moment) ana i have a question, do you make polls like these just to make everyone hate Inuyasha?And i don't think Inuyasha is a shoen anime but w/e, i like Inuyasha because of the plot, and the love story is good, it also has mild swearing and good humor, my fav character is Kikyo, why? because, shes cool and she rightly belongs to Inuyasha, she is mature with her love life to unlike some girl I know of<_< Cool, why? I just told you >_>

Skiks
6th February 2006, 10:07 PM
haha! Inuyasha beat everyone but, naruto, full metal alchemist and D.B. :D(at the moment) ana i have a question, do you make polls like these just to make everyone hate Inuyasha? And i don't think Inuyasha is a shoen anime
No one makes a thread just to hate inuyasha. People don't like it because it's boring and saying inu is in 4th place isn't saying much. I'm pretty sure inuyasha is shonen.

Kasaioni
6th February 2006, 11:38 PM
if it was shoen they would show it was after the ending song, its ad, and they don't, at least over here, if people don't like boring anime its no surprize nobody voted for pokemon<_<

HK
6th February 2006, 11:44 PM
haha! Inuyasha beat everyone but, naruto, full metal alchemist and D.B. :D(at the moment)

Yes, because obviously Inu Yasha is better because it is popular... ugh. -__-


ana i have a question, do you make polls like these just to make everyone hate Inuyasha?

No, certainly not. In fact, it is my personal belief that these poles are made because the anime fans here at SPPF are very limited in their knowledge of what actual GOOD quality anime is.


And i don't think Inuyasha is a shoen anime but w/e,

It's shounen. It ain't shoujo, nor is it in a fashion seinen. I'm not going into other major genre, so where does Inu Yasha fall into? Shounen.


i like Inuyasha because of the plot,

"Lolz, let's find Naruku!!!" *Fifty episodes later.* "Lolz, let's kill Naruka!!!" *Naruku escapes.* "Lolz, let's find Naruku!!!"


and the love story is good,

"Kikyo, I love you! No, Kagome, I love you! No, Kikyo! No, Kagome! No, Kikyo! No, Kagome! No, Kikyo! No, Kagome! No, Kikyo! No, Kagome! No, Kikyo! No, Kagome!"


it also has mild swearing and good humor,

CLICHÉ HUMOR = AWESOME ANIME.


my fav character is Kikyo, why? because, shes cool and she rightly belongs to Inuyasha, she is mature with her love life to unlike some girl I know of<_< Cool, why? I just told you >_>

"I love you, Inu Yasha. Yet, I can't be with you. I'm a puppet with just fragments of my original soul and I make no progression with my feelings and personaliy, but I still yearn for you despite not being able to choose between me and Miss "I can't develop a character because I'm not original" Kagome."

... Ya know, I know that this is a Pokemon forum and all... but it seriouslly fuggin scares me, this does. Inu Yasha is beating out Detective Conan. All right, so people would rather have a pointless anime series versus one that is episodic but something of a good mystery series.

This is where it freaks me out... Inu Yasha is ahead of Hunter X Hunter. So people don't view unlicensed anime series... but I would appreciate it if people made more of an effort to find out about the series. Hunter X Hunter, despite lacking emotion behind it and a driving plot, is one of the best shounen series out there right now. Inu Yasha became crap once Kouga entered the picture (no offense to his character, but it occured around this time).

... This is where it plain scares the crap out of me. Inu Yasha is ahead of Neon Genesis Evangelion. Do people honestly prefer to watch their brain cells get killed by clichés, no progression in character and plot developments, as well as poor grasp of any quality at all? Is it the fact that they either haven't watched Evangelion, or is it that they can't appreciate the raw human emotion and drive that is poured into it? Are people seriously that restricted in their thinking that they can decipher symbolism and fully comprehend the reason behind the characters' motives?

... Damn, I feel like a fuggin troll with me complaining about the lack of respect that Hunter X Hunter and Evangelion gain in this thread. >_>

Edit: Posted before mine.


if it was shoen they would show it was after the ending song, its ad, and they don't, at least over here, if people don't like boring anime its no surprize nobody voted for pokemon<_<

... Just because something isn't in Shonen Jump doesn't mean that it isn't shounen. -__- And Inu Yasha is just an example of what NOT to do to an anime series.

Luke Groundwalker
6th February 2006, 11:48 PM
if it was shoen they would show it was after the ending song, its ad, and they don't, at least over here, if people don't like boring anime its no surprize nobody voted for pokemon<_<
Jesus, I don't even understand what that post says. >_<

And yes, Inuyasha is a shonen anime, with shojo, horror, action, etcetra elements in it. :\

Skiks
7th February 2006, 12:35 AM
HellKorn ftw. And just to make it clear:
http://animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=159


Inu Yasha (TV)
Genres: Adventure, Comedy, Drama, Fantasy, Historical, Romance, Shounen, Supernatural
So yes it is shounen. I mean what other type could it be? o.o I still say inuyasha doesn't deserve the fame it has.

zonic the hedgehog
7th February 2006, 12:36 AM
. Damn, I feel like a fuggin troll with me complaining about the lack of respect that Hunter X Hunter and Evangelion gain in this thread. >_>

Gah, it's sad people don't try to watch unlicensed anime. :\

There's some neat stuff out there that's never been released that you should all look into.

Hunter X Hunter being a good example.
I was hooked from the beginning, and I think I know why-
the same manga-ka who made Yu Yu Hakusho created this too, no?

Also, here's some other unlicensed anime all of you should give a try (it's perfectly legal to find and download these as of now) :

Narutaru
Beet the Vandel Buster
Bleach
Ichigo 100%
Initial D
oh yeah, and don't forget that Dragon Quest anime. -_-;

Now go slap yerselves. ;D

Skiks
7th February 2006, 12:41 AM
Hunter X Hunter being a good example.
I was hooked from the beginning, and I think I know why-
the same manga-ka who made Yu Yu Hakusho created this too, no?


Yes HXH is made by none other then Togashi. Bleach is great. Though for some reason I don't like ichigo's voice. >_> It's too deep for his character. Then again I've only watched two eps of the anime version. *is more of a manga reader*

That Scary Clefairy
7th February 2006, 1:09 AM
Gah, it's sad people don't try to watch unlicensed anime. :\

There's some neat stuff out there that's never been released that you should all look into.

Hunter X Hunter being a good example.
I was hooked from the beginning, and I think I know why-
the same manga-ka who made Yu Yu Hakusho created this too, no?

Also, here's some other unlicensed anime all of you should give a try (it's perfectly legal to find and download these as of now) :

Narutaru
Beet the Vandel Buster
Bleach
Ichigo 100%
Initial D
oh yeah, and don't forget that Dragon Quest anime. -_-;

Now go slap yerselves. ;D


Narutaru and Initial D are liscensed and out in english.

zonic the hedgehog
7th February 2006, 1:35 AM
Narutaru and Initial D are liscensed and out in english.

Not the Narutaru anime, at least I don't think so.

I think I might have confused myself. I just figured out that the NEWER Initial D
stuff isn't out yet (as in, an alternate series, but still Initial D).
I'm sure of this, because you can still download it on Anime Suki. o_O

Edit: Ah, wait, wait.

I've got it now. I've just checked the liscensed anime directory in Anime Suki, and it seems Narutaru IS licensced (anime and manga), but Initial D's anime is not (it was not on the list).

Wolf Goddess
7th February 2006, 1:45 AM
Detective Conan is certainly my favorite; it doesn't rely on heavy action or bad humor to get through various episodes. It manages to be entirely intelligent while being extremely entertaining.

Fullmetal Alchemist is another favorite. It has some of everything, really. Action, sci-fi, drama, horror, comedy, but not too much of one or the other.

I really enjoy both Inuyasha and Naruto; however, they have some nagging problems, mostly being copious amounts of filler.

Chris
7th February 2006, 1:48 AM
Gah, it's sad people don't try to watch unlicensed anime. :\

There's some neat stuff out there that's never been released that you should all look into.

Hunter X Hunter being a good example.
I was hooked from the beginning, and I think I know why-
the same manga-ka who made Yu Yu Hakusho created this too, no?

Also, here's some other unlicensed anime all of you should give a try (it's perfectly legal to find and download these as of now) :

Narutaru
Beet the Vandel Buster
Bleach
Ichigo 100%
Initial D
oh yeah, and don't forget that Dragon Quest anime. -_-;

Now go slap yerselves. ;D
Correction, they're not licened outside of Japan. Doesn't make it okay to download them. It's still not legal to download 'em. e_e Although I do agree that Beet the Vandal Buster is quite a nice anime to check out.

That Scary Clefairy
7th February 2006, 1:49 AM
Not the Narutaru anime, at least I don't think so.

I think I might have confused myself. I just figured out that the NEWER Initial D
stuff isn't out yet (as in, an alternate series, but still Initial D).
I'm sure of this, because you can still download it on Anime Suki. o_O

Edit: Ah, wait, wait.

I've got it now. I've just checked the liscensed anime directory in Anime Suki, and it seems Narutaru IS licensced (anime and manga), but Initial D's anime is not (it was not on the list).

Err yes it is. Intial D is Liscensed. Tokyopop liscense the anime AND the manga. Check it on Anime News Network.

Rufinito18
7th February 2006, 2:17 AM
They saw a commercial for the show's premiere, heard Naruto say two words, and automatically assumed it would be bad. It turned out quite good, in my opinion.


ACTUALLY the only thing that annoys me in the DUB naruto is that they raplaced the spiffy datebayo he says all the time by ..BELIEVE IT. Which isnt really the translation ( Its kind of like saying,...blablabla..you know what i'm saying?)

Kakashi's, Sakura's and Sasuke's dub voices are fine...but when the others come...well...nothing beats the original...

and something else to critizise: THE OPENING SONG

wtf..."YAH! syyyyyooossoooo!" is? they even give spoilers cause they fused the 2 opening songs of the japanese...I dont get why they didnt keep the japanese opening since Inuyasha kept it.

Chris
7th February 2006, 2:29 AM
Who cares? You can't really translate Dattebayo into anything. Notice how not even the subbers really touch it. o_O I've gone over that several times before.

And the reason is because that Naruto's dubbed by Viz Media and Studiopolis, while InuYasha's dubbed by Viz Inc. with the Ocean Group.

zonic the hedgehog
7th February 2006, 2:49 AM
Correction, they're not licened outside of Japan.

You know what I mean. -_-; (unlicensed in the United States)


Doesn't make it okay to download them. It's still not legal to download 'em. e_e Although I do agree that Beet the Vandal Buster is quite a nice anime to check out.

Alright, here's a detailed thing from Animesuki:


Licensed Anime

What is licensed anime?
Licensed anime is any series or movie (part or whole) for which the rights to publish the anime in a specific area have been bought. Simply put, if a company buys the rights to put an anime series or movie on TV and/or release it on DVD in the USA (in English), that anime series or movie is considered licensed anime by AnimeSuki. Note that of course it's also possible for anime series and movies to be licensed in other areas (such as Europe). Such licenses usually involve publishing in languages other than English though and therefore are of no interest to us.

The original purpose of fansubs
As recent as about 10 to 15 years ago anime was not easy to get outside of Asia. The few anime companies that existed could only bring out a few titles as they lacked the funds and the market for licensing more shows. To get more anime and also to encourage certain titles to get licensed in the US, some anime fans started to make fansubs: series which were taped of Japanese television with subtitles added. These fansubs were distributed on VHS tape. One of the self imposed rules the fansub groups adapted was that once a series was licensed in the US, distribution of the fansub should stop. After all, the fansub had served it's purpose.

Eventually the popularity of anime grew in the US and with it the market for anime grew, which in turn resulted in more money to be available to license even more shows. It is probably this reason why in the past few years more and more shows are getting licensed. The popularity of fansubs also grew explosively with the introduction of digisubs: digital fansubs which could be easily distributed over the internet.

Fansubs violate copyrights
We have to admit it: the distribution of fansubs is technically a violation of copyright under the WTO TRIPS agreement. However the TRIPS agreement does not demand that distribution of copyrighted material is a criminal offence unless it is done on a commercial scale. This means it is up to the copyright holder to bring the offender to court. The copyright of unlicensed material is held by the original creator. In the case of anime this usually means the Japanese distribution company. If something is licenced, the licensee holds the copyright and thus the right to sue any copyright infringers within the area covered by the license. (source: ato's forum post)

Up until now fansub groups have had little to worry about legal pressure from Japan. However US companies are more likely to sue, therefore it is an additional reason for fansub groups to stop distributing a series once it gets licensed in the US.

The future of fansubs
Whether fansubs have a future remains to be seen. David Williams of ADV Films recently mentioned at Anime Boston 2003: "One thing fans might not know is most shows are licensed now during the financing stage, before the show is even produced. This makes a lot of fansubs pointless now. Of course, there are still old shows that probably won’t be licensed; but new shows are almost guaranteed."

Still some series might need some help to get popular. Would you buy Azumanga Daioh DVDs if you had have never heard about it? Fansubs probably helped this series and others gain popularity. Also as there is so much anime being created in Japan, there will usually always be some series which don't get licensed for some reason, like Boys Be or Kokoro Library.

It's not a perfect world
If you are wondering why you can still find fansubs of licensed shows (even of episodes aired after the show was licensed), the answer is that the world is not perfect. Certain fansub groups do not follow the general fansub ethics of ceasing the distribution and fansubbing of a show after it is licensed. AnimeSuki does not recommend downloading these files, but there is little we can do to stop them.

Basically, it's quite LESS (possibly even non-illegal, since Japan's copyright laws are WAY different from ours) if you download them before they're released.

Same deal with doujinshi.

They're based off existing characters, and the doujinshi artists actually make profit from the characters they're portraying (they even make them in sexual situations which are more for fan-service), yet, they don't ever get sued.

cool grovyille
8th February 2006, 5:59 AM
I thought people would choose pokemon

That Scary Clefairy
8th February 2006, 6:09 AM
I thought people would choose pokemon ;282; ;169; ;254; ;361; ;236; :snowlax: ;245; ;386-a; ;378; ;149; ;225; ;332;

those poke icons weren't really necessery. Might consider it spam.