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Clockworkz
5th February 2006, 5:32 AM
Should I get a flygon on my team? I was debating another overpowered Salamence or a Kingdra, but Flygon seems neat... Is it really worth it to get one? If so, why?

9voltdude
5th February 2006, 5:40 AM
you should use dragonite insted.

(thats what helped me win my last tournament).

chaos952
5th February 2006, 5:57 AM
LOL. Salamence and Kingdra overpowered? No. Overrated? Maybe.

If you do choose to use Flygon, go:

Adamant Nature @ Choice Band
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Quick Attack
Fire Blast

Prof.BIG
5th February 2006, 6:14 AM
It depends what kind of team you want. So if you want like one type of team or a balanced team? We'll need to know the rest of your team.

PersianKing
5th February 2006, 6:50 AM
I would Choose Kingdra.

Horn Drill
5th February 2006, 6:56 AM
I would Choose Kingdra.

Kingdra is poopy. Use chaos952's Flygon with 252 Atk/252 Speed/6 HP.

ZNtelle
5th February 2006, 8:47 AM
For InGame, I suggest Return over QA on chaos952's Flygon.

Spectre
5th February 2006, 9:00 AM
QA is for an always first hit. Not just a normal move.

ZNtelle
5th February 2006, 9:03 AM
Good point, but there aren't many things that will threaten Flygon InGame if they outspeed it. If something will threaten it, there's always the switch option.

I could, of course, be wrong on that.

Spectre
5th February 2006, 9:06 AM
Battle Frontier has plenty of endrevers. Gets annoying, so a QA will take it out.

jindahouse
5th February 2006, 5:30 PM
go for flygon i tryed to raise a salmence it is so overated but kingdras are good and are only weak againsts dragons
good moves for flygon are
earthquake
dragon Claw
Iron Tail/Crunch
Flamethrower

aipomkong
5th February 2006, 5:49 PM
no you are crap













and hyper beam is also crap

9voltdude
5th February 2006, 6:06 PM
hyper beam REALLY sucks.

Horn Drill
6th February 2006, 12:11 AM
go for flygon i tryed to raise a salmence it is so overated but kingdras are good and are only weak againsts dragons
good moves for flygon are
earthquake
dragons breath
hyperbeam
Flamethrower

and hyper beam isn't crap

lol at Salamence being overratted.

lol at Kingra being good.

lol at "dragons breath" and Hyper Beam on Kingdra.

Crunch is probably better on Flygon than Hyper Beam.

Hemp Man
6th February 2006, 2:35 AM
crunch flygon sucks.

kingdra is good, but overrated ._.

Horn Drill
6th February 2006, 2:37 AM
crunch flygon sucks.

So does Hyper Beam anything. =/


kingdra is good, but overrated ._.

I would probably just leave it at "mediocre". Good is a bit much.

Hemp Man
6th February 2006, 2:43 AM
So does Hyper Beam anything. =/
rby




I would probably just leave it at "mediocre". Good is a bit much.

it has ONE flaw, movepool, might as well say tarous is medicore due to its movepool.

Horn Drill
6th February 2006, 2:49 AM
rby

Aaaaand we're really gonna be using Flygon a lot in RBY. >_>;


it has ONE flaw, movepool, might as well say tarous is medicore due to its movepool.

"Movepool" is a pretty big flaw.

Kingdra's stats aren't all that great either.

Tauros can CB, Kingdra can't do anything special.

Hemp Man
6th February 2006, 2:55 AM
Kindgra can Swift Swim ._.

tarous = 490 total base stat
kindgra = 540 base stat

Horn Drill
6th February 2006, 3:02 AM
Kindgra can Swift Swim ._.

Which requires rain, which pretty much always requires Kyogre, which requires an uber battle.


tarous = 490 total base stat
kindgra = 540 base stat

Tauros' stats are placed better than Kingdra's are. =/

aipomkong
6th February 2006, 5:24 PM
kingdra doesn't need any speed evs, with hp/def/satk evs it can beat lax 1v1 when it switches into rain dance

it honestly isn't poor, just nubes who use toxic on it make it suck

Freakshow
6th February 2006, 11:00 PM
Is this thread turning into a Kingdra flamewar?

TOY MACHINE
7th February 2006, 1:06 AM
Rain dance, last time i checked it caused rain

return>quick attack (ingame)

jindahouse
9th February 2006, 9:50 PM
Omastar ur crap not me u rated my team and said you could't come up with good move sets n trust me you were right

Delta
9th February 2006, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by jindahouse
Omastar ur crap not me u rated my team and said you could't come up with good move sets n trust me you were right




go for flygon i tryed to raise a salmence it is so overated but kingdras are good and are only weak againsts dragons
good moves for flygon are
earthquake
dragons breath
hyperbeam
Flamethrower

and hyper beam isn't crap

guess agains whos´crap

aipomkong
9th February 2006, 10:30 PM
Omastar ur crap not me u rated my team and said you could't come up with good move sets n trust me you were right

it's 0 not O

your not ur
you not u
and not n

and your rates are beyond discription as they are so poor

tbh at least i know what i am talking about, you really do have no perception of either the english language, nor pokemon

hell, you can't even spell England

oh, also you make me embarassed to be English

DragonDance
9th February 2006, 10:50 PM
go for flygon i tryed to raise a salmence it is so overated but kingdras are good and are only weak againsts dragons
good moves for flygon are
earthquake
dragons breath
hyperbeam
Flamethrower

and hyper beam isn't crap
Hyper Beam = shittyest move on planet
= a move that nintendo made to suck ppl into being a n00b - Trust me i was a n00b 3 years ago when i first started playing
use chaos952's flygon plz
-SL ;157;;munchlax;;112;

Fluorescent Adolescent
9th February 2006, 10:51 PM
it's 0 not O

your not ur


Actually it's you're 8D

aipomkong
9th February 2006, 11:09 PM
he could be talking about the crap i just did though :)

Fluorescent Adolescent
9th February 2006, 11:11 PM
he could be talking about the crap i just did though :)

Well you could have least supplied images for jindahouse considering crap is a fetish of his :<

Alfonc
10th February 2006, 12:01 AM
Should I get a flygon on my team? I was debating another overpowered Salamence or a Kingdra, but Flygon seems neat... Is it really worth it to get one? If so, why?

You should get a Salamence!

Kingdra on the other hand is quite pathetic and will get beaten in the blink of an eye!


Salamence@Choice Band
Adamant nature
Ev's 252 Attack/Speed,6 HP

Earthquake
Brick Break
Aerial Ace
Rock Slide/Return/Double Edge

Not a bad moveset and with Choice Band it will be quite the threat!

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Salamence@Lum Berry/Leftovers
Modest nature
Ev's 252 Sp.Attack/Speed,6 HP

Dragon Claw
Crunch
Fire Blast
Hydro Pump

Salamence's max Sp.Attack stat is 350 which is very good,Hydro Pump and Fire Blast's power is 120 which will deal a lot of damage,Dragon Claw gets Stab and Crunch is strong against Ghost and Psychic types.
Not a bad moveset,this Salamence is very Powerful and it can beat the Choice Banded Salamence above!

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Salamence@Lum Berry
Adamant nature
Ev's 252 Attack/Speed,6 HP

Dragon Dance
Aerial Ace
Earthquake
Rock Slide/Brick Break/Return/Double Edge

Dragon Dancing Salamence is one of those good moveset's out there,once this Pokemon Dragon Dances it is almost unstopable!
The point is to keep Dragon Dancing 6 Times or less or until Lum Berry is used,then you sweep away!
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Salamence@Lum Berry
Mild/Lonely nature
Ev's 252 Speed,152 Attack,106 Sp.Attack

Aerial Ace
Earthquake/Rock Slide/Brick Break/Return/Double Edge
Dragon Claw
Hydro Pump/Fire Blast/Crunch/Hidden Power:Grass


Mixed Salamence is extremely helpfulm it can can take out many tough Pokemon like Metagross,Entei,Espeon,Crobat and friends.
As I said above for the Modest Salamence,it has a great Sp.Attack base meaning that it will get you many,many wins in the Battle Frontier and Orre Colosseum in Pokemon XD!


Overall,Salamence is an overused Pokemon because of it's awesome Stats.

Dragonite on the other hand is good,but not as good as Salamence.

TOY MACHINE
10th February 2006, 4:33 AM
a big thanks to Shiny Mewtwo for the extremely long and pointless post

thanks to me for the short pointless post

DragonDance
10th February 2006, 2:00 PM
Fire Blast > Brick Break
lol Elemence w/o Wish
lol Mixmence
lol @ Choice Band illusion

-SL;157;;munchlax;;112;

Alfonc
11th February 2006, 12:08 AM
a big thanks to Shiny Mewtwo for the extremely long and pointless post

thanks to me for the short pointless post

Are you even the one that needs help chossing the Dragon Pokemon?
I guess not so shut the h*ll up you b*stard!


Dragonite is a pretty good Pokemon though:

Dragonite@Leftovers
Adamant nature
Ev's 252 Attack/Sp.Defense,6 HP

Thunder Wave/Fire Blast(destroys Skarmory)
Dragon Dance
Aerial Ace
Earthquake

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A Special Dragonite is good too:

Dragonite@Leftovers
Modest nature
Ev's 252 Sp.Attack/Sp.Defense,6 HP

Dragon Claw
Thunder Bolt
Ice Beam
Flamethrower/Fire Blast
===============

Kingdra is good but not too good:

Kingdra@Lum Berry
Modest/Timid nature
Ev's 252 Sp.Attack/Speed,6 HP

Hydro Pump/Surf
Ice Beam
Hidden Power:Electric/Grass
Rain Dance/Agility

Pretty good moveset,but it won't last long.


Man,people like to argue a lot in Rate my Team Forums,especially the ones that don't even need the help.

aipomkong
11th February 2006, 12:09 AM
pity this is about flygon

Tazzler
11th February 2006, 1:36 AM
Other possible sets for flygon include:

~Screech
~Earthquake
~Rock Slide
~Fire Blast

Screechgon. Maybe not that useful ingame. Hit hard with STAB EQ on lowered defense.

~Fire Blast
~Dragon Claw
~Crunch/Sunny Day
~Earthquake
Lol, special sweeping flygon. Its special attack isn't that bad. Flameclaw has no resistances. Or you could be gay and sunnybeam.