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Louie
5th February 2006, 5:34 PM
I'm stumped as to whether or not i should keep endeavour on my swellow or teach it steel wing instead...
any opinions/ideas ?

Stardust25
5th February 2006, 5:45 PM
Well, it depends on the rest of your moveset, but generally, Steel Wing isn't a wonderful move. Endeavor would work good with a moveset like this:

Swellow

Return
Substitute
Endeavor
Toxic/Aerial Ace
@Salac Berry.

Louie
5th February 2006, 5:51 PM
the moveset at the moment is

substitute
aerial ace
endeavour
wing attack

but thanks for the advice, your moveset sounds much better :]

9voltdude
5th February 2006, 6:18 PM
you should go with...

facade
steel wing
aerial ace
quick attack

Volteon
5th February 2006, 6:23 PM
I like endeavor more, also blisseys, slakings and snorlaxes can fear you :o! (principally slakings)

OgLoc187
5th February 2006, 6:31 PM
My lvl 100 Swellow has done me well:

Lvl 100 Swellow
Naughty@Focus band
Endeavour
Aerial ace
Steel wing(Takes care of the Ice/Rock pokemon)
HP fire

Char1016
5th February 2006, 7:26 PM
I think Endeavor is better, I learned that how does it make damage(or maybe not). For pokemons with high HP stat, Endeavor is one of the best moves.

aipomkong
5th February 2006, 7:43 PM
Return
Aerial Ace
Steel Wing
Quick Attack
@ Choice Band

PDL
5th February 2006, 7:50 PM
Facade's a good attack if you find Quick Attack too weak... and Swellow's pretty fast anyway...

Blaziken X
5th February 2006, 8:08 PM
swellow needs steel wing for the rock and ice types

Neo
5th February 2006, 8:38 PM
The Swellow I had in the BF was:
Swellow@Leftovers
Docile nature (I have this strange attraction from Docile natured Pokes...)
-Return
-Facade
-Steel Wing
-Aerial Ace

I think the biggest shock for me about it was that it had a flawless Defense, but this Poke was probably one of my best BF Pokes.

ZNtelle
6th February 2006, 4:41 AM
0mastar's suggestion is best.

Neo
6th February 2006, 6:02 PM
0mastar's suggestion is best.
Well, the only reason that I had Facade instead of Quick Attack is because Swellow has a base stat of 125 for Speed anyway, had I usually only use Facade to take advantage of Swellow's Guts ability as well as the raise of power from Facade's ability.

aipomkong
6th February 2006, 6:33 PM
facade is generally more useful in-game actually, as you will get randomly toxic'd i guess

PDL
6th February 2006, 7:20 PM
facade is generally more useful in-game actually, as you will get randomly toxic'd i guess

true... but then Swellow is generally more useful in-game... since he's usually outclassed by all sorts of other normal/flying types :p

Freakshow
6th February 2006, 11:01 PM
Swellow isn't outclassed by Farfetch'd, Fearow and Pidgeot

OgLoc187
6th February 2006, 11:15 PM
Swellow is probaly the best UU flying pokemon out there.

Alfonc
7th February 2006, 2:20 AM
The stupid moveset a an UNSKILLED Trainer would use:

Swellow Item:Leftovers
Adamant nature
252 Speed/Attack,6 HP

Substitute
Hyper Beam
Aerial Ace
Hidden Power:Ground


The moveset a SKILLED Trainer would use:

Swellow Item:Choice Band
Adamant nature
Ev's 252 Speed/Attack,6 HP
Sp.Defense could be added so Swellow can survive more Special Attacks.

Return
Aerial Ace
Hidden Power:Ground
Steel Wing

Freakshow
7th February 2006, 2:21 AM
The moveset a SKILLED Trainer would use:

Swellow Item:Choice Band
Adamant nature
252 Speed,190 Attack,68 Sp.Defense

Return
Aerial Ace
Hidden Power:Ground
Steel Wing

More like 252 Atk/252 spd/6 whatever. Swellow can't last long

SapphireL
7th February 2006, 2:29 AM
Steel Wing imo. :/ If you can do more damage, 's better. XD Go with 0mastar.

Blaziken X
7th February 2006, 2:43 AM
The stupid moveset a an UNSKILLED Trainer would use:

Swellow Item:Leftovers
Adamant nature
252 Speed/Attack,6 HP

Substitute
Hyper Beam
Aerial Ace
Hidden Power:Ground


The moveset a SKILLED Trainer would use:

Swellow Item:Choice Band
Adamant nature
252 Speed,190 Attack,68 Sp.Defense

Return
Aerial Ace
Hidden Power:Ground
Steel Wing
a skilled trainer would use dodrio

Freakshow
7th February 2006, 2:44 AM
Yeah, but Dodrio isn't allowed in UU. Ingame, it is wiser to use Dodrio however

rikoea
15th February 2006, 11:22 AM
hmm i think u should teach endeavor because i let my wingull learn steel wing and it's pretty much like wing attack so u can replace wing attack if u want to

aipomkong
15th February 2006, 2:23 PM
thankyou for bumping a thread with that

StrayedBullet
16th February 2006, 12:59 PM
thankyou for bumping a thread with that

lol.

Anyway, on topic, i would say go with Steel Wing. more type coverage that way, at least you can inflict damage on other types instead of doing S**t all.

-SB ;001;

jindahouse
17th February 2006, 7:59 PM
Swellow use

Fly/Steel Wing (unless you need fly in the game)
endeavor
Aerial ace
Facade

DragonDance
17th February 2006, 8:03 PM
only use endevor with endure

it's called an HM Slave

jindahouse
19th February 2006, 1:44 PM
you dont have to just use endeavor wisely when you get low on health use it

Swampert fan
19th February 2006, 2:04 PM
My swellow lv100 knows

Hyper Beam
Wing Attack
Fly
Steel Wing

aipomkong
19th February 2006, 2:25 PM
My swellow lv100 knows

Hyper Beam
Wing Attack
Fly
Steel Wing

thankyou for telling us, hyper beam sucks btw

anyway can we now leave this thread alone and stop bumping it

kthx