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*$hinydragonite*
19th February 2006, 10:19 PM
I just hatched a modest 30 defense IV Treecko with dragonbreath and crunch. I'm going to teach it Thunderpunch via move tutor, and I want to take advantage of STAB. What should I use? I know that giga drain heals you (could be helpful in the Battle frontier) and that Leaf blade has a high critical hit ratio (also helpful in Battle frontier). I need some advice. (sorry if there's a thread about this somewhere)

shinyeevee
19th February 2006, 10:23 PM
i say leaf blade its a much stronger move.:)

aipomkong
19th February 2006, 10:24 PM
leaf blade

and use Dragon Claw over Dragonbreath

Tazzler
19th February 2006, 11:00 PM
Or subseed if you want healing.

Leafblade.

Sc1z0r PwN0rZ
19th February 2006, 11:02 PM
sub, dragonclaw, thunder punch, leaf blade

STAB CH from a good sp atk is always nice

Tazzler
19th February 2006, 11:04 PM
More like leech seed over dragon claw imo.

Sc1z0r PwN0rZ
19th February 2006, 11:17 PM
its in game who cares about seedstalling

ZNtelle
20th February 2006, 12:23 AM
Obviously this guy would since he noticed the HP restoration element of Giga Drain.

Sceptile @ Leftovers
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Leaf Blade
- Thunderpunch

Sc1z0r PwN0rZ
20th February 2006, 1:01 AM
yes let me sub up then seed then OHKO the other pokemon and not even use leech seed

or i could use move and OHKO

Freakshow
20th February 2006, 1:38 AM
Subseed actually almost guarantees you a win against something difficult. subseed until their HP is low, and Leaf Blade away

Can't think of a name
20th February 2006, 1:52 AM
I would suggest leaf blade. Like many people have said before me, there are other ways to heal a pokemon in battle besides giga drain. The extra power of Leaf blade would help you take out some of the more powerful foes, and the high critical-hit ratio only sweetens the deal. lol.

Still, Giga drain is a nice move, but Leaf blade sounds a lot better

Brute Root
20th February 2006, 1:58 AM
I say Leaf Blade and Leech Seed. Leech Seed has saved my tail countless times with my Venusaur.

*$hinydragonite*
20th February 2006, 2:06 AM
Okay, after reading all of this and obtaining pkrs on my grovyle, I've decided on leafblade. Once I get it to lvl 50, I'll use it in the Battle Frontier. Thanks for the help.

ZNtelle
20th February 2006, 2:16 AM
No prob, and if you don't like SubSeeding, there's the option of Endeavor over Leech Seed.

*$hinydragonite*
20th February 2006, 3:43 AM
I know this may be off topic, but what BF item should I use on it? (scope lens, etc)

Geodude
20th February 2006, 3:46 AM
Leftovers or Petaya Berry.

*$hinydragonite*
20th February 2006, 4:35 AM
Oh. Ok, I have both of them. thanks

Sceptile 100
20th February 2006, 6:41 PM
Obviously leafblade.

Altair
20th February 2006, 7:00 PM
Definitely Leaf Blade. I have Giga Drain on Ludicolo and I definitely would have taken Leaf Blade instead. The amount of HP you gain back isn't as valuable as the damage you do with Leaf Blade.

jindahouse
20th February 2006, 9:12 PM
Leaf Blade no doubt about it stronger they should make the move more common for orthe pokemon to learn

ZNtelle
20th February 2006, 9:15 PM
Last three posts show how many people actually read.

Anyways, regarding the item, it really depends. Geodude suggested the two best options already, so I might as well indicate when it's best to use them.

Petaya - Endeavor set
Leftovers - Everything else

Metal Force
21st February 2006, 9:14 AM
leaf blade with item leftovers attached

StrayedBullet
21st February 2006, 12:04 PM
leafblade, you have a better chance of actually doing damage, it has higher base power i think.

-SB ;001;

Can't think of a name
22nd February 2006, 5:50 AM
Using Leaf Blade, scope lens is always an option to make it that bit more dangerous. Of course, Leftovers are/is (???) a nice choice. Miracle seed can help, but I would still suggest Scope lens

manuel the pokemon master
23rd February 2006, 12:33 AM
leaf blade is the best and i am with cant think of a name.leaf blade and scope lens is a good conbination more critical hits ratio for you.

Can't think of a name
25th February 2006, 3:03 AM
You could also use a king's rock for the chance to make the opponent flinch, that can annoy some people and help Sceptile stay alive

TOY MACHINE
25th February 2006, 3:26 AM
why is this even a question

subseed>special
leafblade>giga drain
leftovers>anything else