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<Quagitar>
25th February 2006, 2:03 PM
Blaziken:
Blaze Kick
Flamethrower
Sky Uppercut
Slash

Kyogre:
Surf
Thunder
Water Spout
Ice Beam

Flygon:
Solarbeam
Dragon Claw
Steel Wing
Earthquake

Tyranitar:
Water Pulse
Crunch
Rock Slide
Earthquake

Dragonite:
Thunderbolt
Fly
Earthquake
Dragon Dance

I'm rearranging movesets, so this is only the moves they know now

magnemiteZ
25th February 2006, 2:14 PM
Calm Mind over Water Spout on Kyogre.
And Blaze Kick Sucks

Lavita
25th February 2006, 2:24 PM
What about something that can take being hit a bit, maybe Skarmory:

@ Leftovers
- Spikes
- Toxic
- Whirlwind / Roar
- Drill Peck / Steel Wing

^ Thats for Spikes-Toxic, and then Roar/Whirlwind them away. Impish Nature and all EV's in Defense.
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Or something like Suicune -Calm Mind-Surf. And a hell lot of Defense.

Or maybe Snorlax or Blissey. But i would sat that u need Skarmory, but the choice is yours, there is a lot of pokémon out there.

Freakshow
25th February 2006, 3:10 PM
Kyogre really hurts your team more than helping it. Blaziken loses its firepower, Flygon can't Solarbeam (in fact, don't use Solarbeam flygon, use the CB Flygon)

Flygon @ Choice Band
Jolly/Adamant nature
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Return/ Quick Attack/ Fire Blast/ Dragon Claw/ Hidden Power [Bug]
-Return/ Quick Attack/ Fire Blast/ Dragon Claw/ Hidden Power [Bug]

BTW, post it in a similar format that I used above. Put natures and held items please

<Quagitar>
27th February 2006, 8:43 PM
Right, now, can you rate my team.

Sceptile @ Scope Lens
Timid Nature
•Crunch
•Dragon Claw
•Leaf Blade
•(What should it know?)

Kyogre @ Shell Bell
Docile Nature
•Surf
•Thunder
•Water Spout/Calm Mind
•Ice Beam

Shuckle @ Brightpowder
Sassy Nature
•Toxic
•Double Team
•Rest
•Earthquake

Dragonite @ What do you think it should hold?
Careful Nature
•Water Pulse
•Earthquake
•Dragon Dance
•Steel Wing

Tyranitar @ Quick Claw
Jolly Nature
•Flamethrower
•Brick Break
•Rock Slide
•Earthquake

Latias @ Leftovers
Jolly Nature
•Psychic
•Fly
•Shadow Ball (Do you think I should change it into a Sp.Atk move)
•Thunderbolt

Fluorescent Adolescent
27th February 2006, 8:58 PM
Right, now, can you rate my team.

Sceptile @ Leftovers/Petaya Berry
Timid Nature
•Crunch
•Dragon Claw
•Leaf Blade
•Thunderpunch

I prefer seedstalling sceppy ;[

Kyogre @ Leftovers
Docile Nature
•Surf
•Thunder
•Calm Mind
•Ice Beam

Unchangeable nature so I won't correct it ;x

Shuckle @ Leftovers
Impish Nature
•Toxic
•Swagger
•Rest
•Encore

lol this pokemon sucks :<

Dragonite @ Leftovers/Shell Bell
Adamant Nature
•Aerial Ace
•Earthquake
•Dragon Dance
•Rock Slide

Made him a physical sweeper as you lack physical moves.

Tyranitar @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature
•Dragon Dance
•Substitute
•Rock Slide
•Earthquake

Latias @ Leftovers
Jolly Nature
•Recover
•Calm Mind
•Dragon Claw
•Thunderbolt

Got a bad nature for the latias. Hard luck ;[


I have made some choices to be made for yourself i.e. Dragonite's item. Why? Because it's unlikely you'll have that many leftovers in-game. BTW you lack resistance, despite shuckle, not that it matters in-game :x

<Quagitar>
27th February 2006, 9:03 PM
if so Shuckle sucks, who should I have?

Fluorescent Adolescent
27th February 2006, 9:11 PM
Erm swampert? There's so many choices really. Blissey? Regice? Anything that resist boltbeam considering your team is owned by it ;x

<Quagitar>
27th February 2006, 9:35 PM
as u said it, I just realized that I'm owned by boltbeam. Didn't think bout weanesses thoroughly, I just thought bout moves.

TOY MACHINE
27th February 2006, 9:46 PM
snorlax

fits just right

<Quagitar>
28th February 2006, 2:48 PM
what do u lot mean with "Tank", there r Special Sweepers, Physical..
Is it a some kind of defender or what?

Patriot
28th February 2006, 6:37 PM
I believe it's a mixture of both, a good defender with a decent attack. (But correct me if i'm wrong :))

TOY MACHINE
28th February 2006, 8:44 PM
snorlax is a good special wall

enough curses it becomes a good physical wall unless anything like a cb+stab focus punch from a fighting type

and a physical sweper

aipomkong
28th February 2006, 9:01 PM
a tank is apokemon that is good at taking either physical or special hits, this pokemon also uses stat-up moves and rest commonly.

aka

Snorlax with Curse and Rest (special side)
Suicune with Calm Mind/Rest (physical side)
Skarmory with Curse (Unorthadox physical side)

walls are just like tanks except that they don't use stat up moves

sponges commonly use status effecting moves and recovery moves (Blissey)

~Shiny Umbreon~
28th February 2006, 9:14 PM
You need an electric...Jolteon or Raichu?

~Jolteon@magnet
-Thunder
-dig/earthquake
-shock-wave
-quickattack/double-kick

~Raichu@magnet
-Thunder
-mega punch/mega kick
-shock-wave
-quickattack

Lavita
28th February 2006, 10:08 PM
You need Skarmory, Sorlax or Blissey...

For Electric, go for Zapdos.

Or Raichu:
[Hasty] @ Brightpower / Lax Insence
- Thunderbolt
- Mega Kick / Mega Punch
- Double Team
- Encore
(You could go for SubPunch too, works great. Or Surf, also very great.)

EV spreads like, Attack, Special Attack and Speed. Maybe a little HP yes.

XxGreivousxX
28th February 2006, 10:58 PM
*cough* Uber *cough*

Hmmmm a psychic type wpuld work

Alakazam Modest

@Twisted Spoon
-Thunder Punch
-Ice Punch OR Calm Mind
-Fire Punch
-Psychic

Or of course a Gardevoir Modest

@Choice Band
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Hypnosis
-One of the 3 punches

*Hypnosis gives you time to use Calm Mind a few times xD

magnemiteZ
1st March 2006, 10:52 AM
And you suggested that combo with a CB!
Do you know what the Choice Band does?

10% upping items are nice and all *cough* but going for Leftovers is always better.

Also, Zappy isn't an Uber. He is a Legendary. There is a difference you know

aipomkong
1st March 2006, 3:14 PM
Or of course a Gardevoir Modest

@Choice Band
-Psychic
-Calm Mind
-Hypnosis
-One of the 3 punches

*Hypnosis gives you time to use Calm Mind a few times xD

Choice Band lets you use only one move until you switch out, or the opponent uses theif/knock off.

Choice band also doesn't increase the power of Special Attacks if that was what you were implying

Choice Band Hypnosis + CM would only let you use Hypnosis over and over again

Edit: yeah Zapdos isn't uber, look at the definititive uber thread which is stickyed

also

Suggesting double team will more then likely get you flamed as it is hated by most (if not all) competitive battlers as it forces even more luck into the game

Delta
1st March 2006, 3:56 PM
*cough* Uber *cough*

Hmmmm a psychic type wpuld work

Alakazam Modest

@Twisted Spoon
-Thunder Punch
-Ice Punch OR Calm Mind
-Fire Punch
-Psychic



lol, twistedspoon
lol, no recover

use timid > modest

ZNtelle
3rd March 2006, 7:49 AM
~Shiny Umbreon~ is worth forgetting, just to let you know.

I prefer this set on Zam:

Alakazam @ Leftovers
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- Thunderpunch
- Recover