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Charly
27th February 2006, 8:20 AM
Right now I'm trying to beat the Battle Frontier...
Please rate…
Salamence@Scopelens
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Heracross@Choiceband-Guts
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-facade

Gengar@Shellbell
Timid EV SA252 S252 HP6
-substitute
-icepunch
-thunderbolt
-gigadrain

Snorlax@Leftovers-Immunity
Adamant EV A92 D140 SD120 HP158
-rest
-earthquake
-bodyslam
-curse

Kingdra@Chestoberry
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-rest
-icebeam
-raindance

Alakazam@Lumberry
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-phychic
-thunderpunch
-firepunch
-calmmind

Thank you...

Wyndigo
27th February 2006, 9:19 AM
My team to be is ...
Sceptile
Modest
-leafblade
-dragonclaw
-crunch
-Thunder Punch
Works in-game

Charizard
Adamant
-Fire Blast
-Rock Slide
-earthquake
-Swordsdance

Kingdra
Modest
-Surf
-Ice Beam
-Rest
-raindance

Jolteon
Timid
-thunderbolt
-thunderwave
-batonpass
-Substitute

Can I have any suggestions like to change a pokemon or some moves please …

I personally like this moveset for Sceptile:
Modest / Timid nature
-Leaf Blade
-Thunder Punch
-Leech Seed
-Substitute

I don't know about the others. Sorry.

Charly
27th February 2006, 12:16 PM
Thanks Wyndigo...

Salamence
Adamant EV A255 S255
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Heracross
Adamant EV A255 S255
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-earthquake
-bulkup

Sceptile
Modest EV SA255 S255
-leafblade
-dragonclaw
-crunch
-thunderpunch

Charizard
Adamant EV A255 S255
-fireblast
-rockslide
-earthquake
-swordsdance

Kingdra
Modest EV SA255 S255
-surf
-rest
-icebeam
-raindance

Jolteon
Timid EV SA255 S255
-thunderbolt
-thunderwave
-batonpass
-substitute

Im not very sure about Charizard though... do u think i should change him and by the way Im challenging the battle frontier so I need these guys to be pretty decent to beat the brains ... Anyone can help if u like...

Wyndigo
27th February 2006, 9:58 PM
Your original Charizard will work alright in-game as well. I had one just like it and it did well with a Hasty nature. But the physical Charizard works a heck of a lot better.

Charly
28th February 2006, 9:48 AM
Thanks.. is Jolteon alright or should i change him 2 Gardevior

~Shiny Umbreon~
28th February 2006, 10:32 PM
Maybe you should change one of Jolteon's moves to thunder. Also, if Charizard was one of your starter pokemon in fire or leaf and you beat the E4, then an old lady in a house on one of the small islands,(it's either 2, or 3) will teach your Charizard Blast Burn. Just trade it over get it to learn the move and then trade it back.

kyogre100
1st March 2006, 3:52 AM
My team to be is ...

Salamence
Adamant EV A255 S255
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragon dance

Heracross
Adamant EV A255 S255
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-earthquake
-bulkup

Sceptile
Modest EV SA255 S255
-leafblade
-dragonclaw
-crunch
-solarbeam Maybe replace crunch with sunny day to make solarbeam faster

Charizard
Modest EV SA255 S255
-flamethrower
-dragonclaw
-earthquake
-sunnyday This move here seems like it doesnt fit in with this strategy maybe try dynamicpunch

Kingdra
Modest EV SA255 S255
-hydropump
-dragonbreath
-icebeam
-raindance

Jolteon
Timid EV SA255 S255
-thunderbolt
-thunderwave Try doublekick or a fighting/steel move to defend it against rock and ground types
-batonpass
-thunder

Can I have any suggestions like to change a pokemon or some moves please …

Overal I think you have a pretty good team

Sc1z0r PwN0rZ
1st March 2006, 4:05 AM
Maybe you should change one of Jolteon's moves to thunder. Also, if Charizard was one of your starter pokemon in fire or leaf and you beat the E4, then an old lady in a house on one of the small islands,(it's either 2, or 3) will teach your Charizard Blast Burn. Just trade it over get it to learn the move and then trade it back.


don't listen to this guy

Charly
1st March 2006, 9:03 AM
Thanks everyone…

Salamence
Adamant
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Heracross
Adamant
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-earthquake
-bulkup

Sceptile
Modest
-leafblade
-thunderpunch
-crunch
-solarbeam-in double battles charizard uses sunnyday…

Charizard
Modest
-flamethrower
-dragonclaw
-earthquake
-sunnyday

Kingdra
Modest
-surf
-dragonbreath
-icebeam
-raindance

I was thinking one of these to replace Jolteon…(dont like him honestly)

Alakazam
Modest
-psychic
-calmmind
-thunderpunch
-firepunch

Gardevoir
Modest
-psychic
-calmmind
-will-o-wisp-what pokemon do u breed it with to get that move…
-thunderbolt

What good pokemon can replace Jolteon…got any ideas…

magnemiteZ
1st March 2006, 10:11 AM
I have an Alakazam similar to that, It is an amazing Pokemon, but the problem is that you NEED a OHKO hit. If you don't you will die from a Blissey Double Slap (lol)!
Alakazam makes a better special sweeper, (But Gardevoir isn't a bad one, especialy with its usage of T Bolt) cos it has a better move pull.

There is no point you having Ice Beam and Dragonbreath on Kindra. They dish out the same damage (Dragonbreath with the stab=95 Power), and Dragonbreath is only good against deagons, while Ice Beam can take out Dragons (Usually with a 4x weakness) and other things too.
Put Rest in there instead.

~Shiny Umbreon~
1st March 2006, 10:09 PM
I'm not a guy, and it was just a suggestion

Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Shiny Umbreon~
Maybe you should change one of Jolteon's moves to thunder. Also, if Charizard was one of your starter pokemon in fire or leaf and you beat the E4, then an old lady in a house on one of the small islands,(it's either 2, or 3) will teach your Charizard Blast Burn. Just trade it over get it to learn the move and then trade it back.


don't listen to this guy

aipomkong
1st March 2006, 10:16 PM
Maybe replace crunch with sunny day to make solarbeam faster

Sceptile used Sunny Day
Pokemon used Move
Sceptile fainted

so much for that

ZNtelle
3rd March 2006, 8:46 AM
Anyways, regarding a Sceptile set, here's what I suggest.

Sceptile @ Leftovers
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Leaf Blade
- Thunderpunch

Freakshow
4th March 2006, 12:16 AM
Swords Dance>Bulk Up on Heracross. Rock SLide>EQ
If you can, try getting HP Ice/Grass on Jolteon. I have one (at a pretty good power), and you can get it

Charly
4th March 2006, 5:53 AM
Thank you...

Salamence
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Heracross
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-sworddance

Sceptile
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-leafblade
-thunderpunch
-crunch
-solarbeam-Charizard-sunnyday

Charizard
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-flamethrower
-dragonclaw
-earthquake
-sunnyday

Kingdra
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-rest
-icebeam
-raindance

Jolteon
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-thunderbolt
-thunderwave
-thunder-Kingdra-raindance
-batonpass

krazyelements241
4th March 2006, 7:41 AM
im not sure but if i had your game i probably stick with alakazam rather than jolteon but thats just me other than that i like the rest of your team.:)

Jake
4th March 2006, 9:46 AM
I think you should change Herracross with a psychic pokemon.

Charly
4th March 2006, 11:29 AM
why do you think i should change heracross...?

Arbok of Doom
4th March 2006, 12:13 PM
omg NO!!! Don't change heracross! But suggestion for Charizard.... teach him a Flying-move (Aerial Ace) for Sunny Day... I think that's better... And get rid of Sceptiles Solarbeam for Dragon Claw or Hp Fire
Take Alakazam instead of Jolteon... he has very high spatk! I'd teach him this:
Psychic
Thunderpunch
Icepunch
Firepunch/Calm Mind
Take for Kingdra Hp grass instead of rest or rain dance

magnemiteZ
4th March 2006, 1:09 PM
Charizard is one of those Pokemon that can get Dragon Dance.
Use it
But overall, Charizard isn't particually good.
You could go...
-Fire Blast/Overheat/Flamethrower (whichever you prefer)
-DD
-AA
-EQ
But there are better Fire Types


why do you think i should change heracross...?
No.

Charly
4th March 2006, 2:01 PM
Noway would i change heracross plus im using charizard as a special fire sweeper unless you can give me another good fire pokemon

magnemiteZ
4th March 2006, 2:02 PM
^Could you rephrase that please

Houndoom is good
So is Ninetales
Blaziken

Charly
5th March 2006, 5:58 AM
im using charizard for his special attacks and im not changing heracross...
could you show me a good fire type that can fit in with my team replacing charizard and could you give them a move set with them please...

ZNtelle
5th March 2006, 7:26 AM
I don't understand why you still have Sunny Day on Sceptile.

Charly
5th March 2006, 8:30 AM
I dont have Sunny Day on Sceptile.

pyroboi27
5th March 2006, 8:31 AM
put dragon claw instead of sunny day on charizard

magnemiteZ
5th March 2006, 11:35 AM
If you are going for a Special Sweeping Charizard sure. But I still Like the Dragon Dancing one more. You still get a nice Stabbed fire move on it, and as a Pokemon it is tenfold better!

ZNtelle
5th March 2006, 9:36 PM
Somebody smack me with a ruler for that last post...

Eh, I prefer Bellyzard. Charizard needs that Atk boost because it doesn't have that great an Atk stat.

magnemiteZ
5th March 2006, 9:45 PM
Re-reading it, I see your point!

jindahouse
5th March 2006, 9:48 PM
My team to be is ...

Salamence
Adamant EV A255 S255
-earthquake/Rockslide
-aerial ace/ Crunch
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw

Heracross
Adamant EV A255 S255
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-earthquake
-Reversal

Sceptile
Modest EV SA255 S255
-leafblade
-dragonclaw
-crunch
-solarbeam

Charizard
Modest EV SA255 S255
-flamethrower
-dragonclaw
-earthquake
-Blast burn/ Heta wave

Kingdra
Modest EV SA255 S255
-hydropump
-dragonbreath
-icebeam
-Waterfall/surf

Jolteon
Timid EV SA255 S255
-thunderbolt
-pin missle/Filler
-double kick/Filler
-thunder

Can I have any suggestions like to change a pokemon or some moves please …

Or put in a diffferent electric type eg electbuzz or ampharos
and I like ya ev's and natures

magnemiteZ
5th March 2006, 9:50 PM
No comment on that^

ZNtelle
5th March 2006, 9:51 PM
Okay, just ignore jindahouse. He only worsened the state of your team if anything.

aipomkong
5th March 2006, 10:35 PM
jindahouse got better for a couple of days, then hit a steep downhill slope

Brute Root
6th March 2006, 1:09 AM
I say replace Jolteon with Raichu and use this moveset:
Substitute
Focus Punch
I put Sweet Kiss here for annoyance and for extra damage
Volt Tackle/Thunderbolt (I have Volt Tackle...but it has massive recoil against a strong opponent).

ZNtelle
6th March 2006, 1:14 AM
Heh, I never thought of Sweet Kiss before. I'd always suggested Thunder Wave as a filler, but Static takes care of that anyways. Guess that's an indirect way of Parafusing.

Charly
6th March 2006, 8:12 AM
I had a subpunching Raichu before but it kepted getting killed...lol anyway it looks like I need a Tank so any suggestions...
Heres my team so far...

Salamence
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Heracross
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-sworddance

Sceptile
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-leafblade
-thunderpunch
-crunch
-solarbeam-Charizard-sunnyday

Charizard
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-flamethrower
-dragonclaw
-earthquake
-sunnyday

Kingdra
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-rest
-icebeam
-raindance

Jolteon
Timid EV SA252 S252 HP6
-thunderbolt
-thunderwave
-thunder-Kingdra-raindance
-batonpass

magnemiteZ
6th March 2006, 10:35 AM
You could go for a Snorlax, a Blissey, a Skamaroy, Donphan, etc... The choice is yours

aipomkong
6th March 2006, 6:29 PM
leaf blade + solarbeam on Sceptile is just a waste

thunderbolt + thunder on jolteon is a waste

thunder wave is a waste on jolteon as it doesn't have the defences to last

just use leaf blade (sceptile) and thunderbolt (jolteon), relying on passed weather conditions is barely usable effectivly, unless it is kyogre / groudon

Fluorescent Adolescent
6th March 2006, 6:31 PM
leaf blade + solarbeam on Sceptile is just a waste

thunderbolt + thunder on jolteon is a waste

thunder wave is a waste on jolteon as it doesn't have the defences to last

just use leaf blade and thunderbolt, relying on passed weather conditions is barely usable effectivly, unless it is kyogre / groudon

Thunderpunch imo.

Charly
7th March 2006, 2:49 PM
What one should I change for a Tank because my team lacks defence...These move sets are great by the way...

Salamence@Leftovers
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Heracross@Shellbell
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-sworddance

Sceptile@Shellbell
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-leafblade
-thunderpunch
-crunch
-dragonclaw

Kingdra@Chestoberry
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-rest
-icebeam
-raindance

Alakazam@Shellbell
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-phychic
-thunderpunch
-firepunch
-calmmind

So could you show me a tank,annoyer or anything that would be great in my team would be most appreciated...

aipomkong
7th March 2006, 6:59 PM
Thunderpunch imo.

I was refering to Jolteon but meh

snorlax
7th March 2006, 9:59 PM
yeah charizard is

Belly Drum
Fire Blast
Rock Slide/Aerial Ace
Earthquake

magnemiteZ
7th March 2006, 10:15 PM
Take out Charizard. You already have another Flying type in Salamence, and if you keep Fire Punch on Alakazam, you will be ok for fire coverage also.

Replace it with a Curselax.
Snolax@ Leftovers
Careful Nature
Evs-200 HP, 180 Attack, 100 Sp Def, 30 Def
-Return
-Curse
-EQ
-Rest

snorlax
7th March 2006, 10:21 PM
everyone and thier sister has curselax id keep zard if you want to bellyzard

either that or a difflax

*Ryan* would suggest Stalklax

there is cblax

but w/e

Charly
8th March 2006, 6:57 AM
Yeah I'll change charizard for something else... What's another one besides Snorlax...

snorlax
9th March 2006, 7:04 AM
another what special wall

if you want a special wall w/ attacks i guess

Regice
Bold?
Ice Beam
T-bolt
t-wave
counter/psych up

counter for unpredictabilty

psych up for competative

people liek to stat up againt regis

Charly
9th March 2006, 8:16 AM
Anything that you think could help...

magnemiteZ
9th March 2006, 11:41 AM
Regice Rocks.
I have one. Mine has Rest over Counter/Psych up though.

Charly
12th March 2006, 10:34 AM
Right now I'm trying to beat the Battle Frontier...
Please rate…
Salamence@Scopelens
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-earthquake
-aerialace
-rockslide
-dragondance

Heracross@Choiceband-Guts
Adamant EV A252 S252 HP6
-megahorn
-brickbreak
-rockslide
-facade

Sceptile@Shellbell
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-leafblade
-thunderpunch
-substitute
-leechseed

Snorlax@Leftovers-Immunity
Adamant EV A110 D140 SD252 HP8
-rest
-earthquake
-bodyslam
-curse

Kingdra@Chestoberry
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-surf
-rest
-icebeam
-raindance

Alakazam@Lumberry
Modest EV SA252 S252 HP6
-phychic
-thunderpunch
-firepunch
-calmmind

Thank you...
I will also edit the first post...

ZNtelle
13th March 2006, 2:18 AM
Snorlax needs a few more HP EVs if you want to Rest. I'd say take some out of SDef because it has too much.

Charly
13th March 2006, 11:49 AM
Could you please post EVs if that thats not any trouble...sorry.
Edit-sorry for double posting I've been having a bad day.

magnemiteZ
13th March 2006, 8:03 PM
Try...
EVs: 158 HP, 140 Def, 120 SDef, 92 Atk

Charly
16th March 2006, 1:25 AM
Thanks... Sceptile isn't very good in battle frontier so I changed him to Gengar.

magnemiteZ
16th March 2006, 12:49 PM
Sceptile>>Gengar imo