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Shell Shock
26th April 2006, 11:52 PM
Okay so, I was playing my Crystal version last night for kicks. I had restarted, and like with most games I replay, I try to examine every detail to see if I catch something I missed. Welll, apparently I, and the rest of the Pokemon community, missed a few things. The first one is minor and the second one was startling to me.

First of all, go to New Bark Town, and it's the lower-left hand house, Prof. Elm's actual residence. Look on his computer to find his log, and here's what it says:

"Pokemon. Where do they come from? Where are they going? Why has no one ever witnessed a Pokemon birth? I want to know! I will dedicate my life to the study of Pokemon!... It's part of Porfessor Elm's research papers."

Sounds like the regular schpeel that happens in most Pokemon games. But wait; no one has ever witnessed a Pokemon birth? What's that about? If this is true, then you would be the first person to actually witness the hatching of Pokemon from an egg. That's right, the Togepi you get from the egg would be the first egg hatched to have ever been seen by a human! Sounds odd, but the game says so!

Second of all, go to Mr. Pokemon's House, in the woods outside Violet City. Remember the desk that Professor Oak was sitting at? Examine it, and it says:

"A whole pile of strange coins! Maybe they're from another country..."

Now examine the bookshelves, they say:

"It's packed with foreign magazines. Can't even read their titles..."

What's this about? Foreign money and writing? It had always occured to me that Kanto and Johto were very joint nations, if they were even seperate nations because they are only called "regions" in the game. Now, this doesn't mean they couldn't be... but, the money and magazines had to have come from somewhere, and Oak was recently visiting from Kanto, so it makes sense that they would be from Kanto. There is one more, less likely possibility: Mr. Pokemon could have been from/could have visited Hoenn/Orre/another different country that is more likely to have different money and writing than Johto. But, Oak was sitting with the money, so it is most likely his.

Oddly enough though, even if Kanto has "a different language", then how can you understand them perfectly? I thought about this, and remembered that places can all speak the same language but have different writing styles for different parts of the country, i.e. China. I think.

Anyway, post your thoughts. I'm going to continue looking for more interesting things tonight. Post any other information you have on this, but be sure to back it up with proof.

Phreack
27th April 2006, 12:05 AM
Wow the Pokemon birth thing is just... weird O_o. I mean, Pokemon have been there for many decades so... Nobody asked where the heck did they come from?!?!? XD Besides, the daycare should get eggs very often, and they never hatched one?? Weird... There may be a lot of things like that now I'm sad my gold died recently and I can't look for them :'(

fhqwhgads
27th April 2006, 12:06 AM
I've seen those. Nothing new.

SuperShadow
27th April 2006, 2:06 AM
I've seen those. Nothing new.
Same, but I forgot about the togepi egg. nice find.

salamence373
27th April 2006, 2:47 AM
About the birth thing, when I was trading my Ladien for a Kangaskan, this was my second one and I had both sexes. So, I thought when I breed the two, maybe I could get a baby, like those little purple looking ones. when the egg hatched, it was a baby, but it was an "adult" with the baby in its pouch. How is this possible?

Comis Patronus
27th April 2006, 2:48 AM
I've never seen those nice find!

Nightcat
27th April 2006, 3:28 AM
lol, that's funny!
"Hey, my baby just instantaneously had a baby!"

indigestible_wad
29th April 2006, 3:05 AM
You know, people think way too much about these things. It's more than likely that nintendo just never really thought about these things and therefore you shouldn't either. The one about Professor Elm seems intentional, but it still doesn't seem to me like a big deal. Probably just nintendo not thinking things through again.

Comis Patronus
29th April 2006, 3:06 AM
You know, people think way too much about these things. It's more than likely that nintendo just never really thought about these things and therefore you shouldn't either. The one about Professor Elm seems intentional, but it still doesn't seem to me like a big deal. Probably just nintendo not thinking things through again.
It entertains---that's all.

MAJINX24
29th April 2006, 3:05 PM
as far as the egg is concerned it is the first time that area had seen an egg.. if they ever remake GS that will probably be taken out because its (i think) seven years after FRLG/RSE.. and that would be dumb cause everyone has bred pokes by that point

about the others.. its probably very likely that mr.pokemon travels.. and there are mentions of other regions.. someone once told me there's mention in crystal about a town that lives on top of a corsola den.. and we know now since RSE was released what they were talking about..

Alphonse Elric
29th April 2006, 3:58 PM
How about the research machine at the Ruins of Alph? It's the one that is described as:

"This doesn't seem to work yet..."

Doesn't it look like those little doo-hickeys in Slateport? You know, in the place where Dock can be found? At least, it looks like it, in my opinion.

And then the GS Ball. It looks like the Ball in the hand of Glacia's sprite in R/S/E, don't you think so?

The Organizer
29th April 2006, 4:05 PM
That would be cool, maybe kanto and jhoto money and writing are different,
This now proves my theroy! Prof. Oak is a Extraterrestrial.

Shell Shock
29th April 2006, 10:04 PM
It may not be a big deal, and it may not be important, and sometimes things are thoiught about too much, but a lot of people think it's interesting when the Pokemon world makes connections to our world. And Ratiosu's right, it's entertaining to think about as well. ^^

The Pokeball in Glacia's hand is most likely a custom made Pokeball, but I doubt that it's the GS Ball. If you look in the hands of other Elite Four members/Gym Leaders, you'll notice that their Pokeballs are different colors as well. Since we know there are people who specialize in making custom Pokeballs (Kurt), it's possible that these famous trainers has them made especially for themselves. We can assume that, since they're so famous and battle for a living, they make a lot of money. Kind of like athletes in the human world, no?

On the subject of Pokeballs, I found another interesting tidbit in Azalea Town's Pokemon Center. Talk to the woman and the left, and she says:

"Do you know about Apricorns? Crack one open, hollow it out and fit it with a special device. Then you can catch Pokemon with it. Before Pokeballs were invented, everyone used Apricorns."

So now we know what people used to catch and train Pokemon before the invention of the Pokeball. Pokeballs and Apricorns probably work similarly as well. Here's another connection. Talk to Maisey, Kurt's daughter, and she says:

"Dad works at Silph where he studies Pokeballs. I have to stay home with Grandpa and Slowpoke."

Hmm... Kurt specializes in making apricorns... his son works at Silph, the company that develpoed the Master Ball and most likely the modern-day Pokeball... could it be a family of Pokeball specialists? Maybe we should look for big things from Maisey in an upcoming game. :0

Interesting point about the Corsola Town... now I guess we know that's Pacifidlog. I'll try to look for that quote as I move forward.

SheWhoLovesPineapples
23rd May 2006, 3:15 AM
Mayzie is actually his granddaughter... isn't she?

Yeah, I've thought about the whole forein-ness between reigeons, too. To me, Johto and Kanto are sort of like the equivalent of America and Canada - basically the same. Hoenn seems a little bit different, and Orre is sort of like Hoenn but probably the most different of all...

I also noticed the thing about the egg. Also remember how interested Professor Elm was in the egg - "A Pokemon egg? That's incredible!"

So, I do believe that yes, your character was the first person to ever see a Pokemon hatch. At least the first known person. When you think about it, it doesn't really make sense, but still...

Also, has anyone ever actually figured out the whole thing about the Unown?

Serebii93
23rd May 2006, 8:08 PM
Meh? You are playing Crystal? No wonder I haven't seen the part about the coins and books. When I do get Crystal, I'm going to Pay Attention to every little thing. See the differences between games. Kick *** with my team.

MetalMario
23rd May 2006, 8:33 PM
I did not know about the reference to a Corsola town in Crystal. That's awesome! Where is it?

About the Pokémon birth thing, I've always thought that the way Pokémon breed in the wild is different from when in captivity. I mean, there are just too many freaky anomalies to the Pokémon breeding we see, like baby Kangaskhan being BORN with a baby already in their pouch! D: and the existence of babies hatching at different evolution stages. (Azurill/Marill, Wynaut/Wobbuffet, Munchlax/Snorlax, Bonsly/Sudowoodo, ...) I would expect that Elm was probably referring to a wild Pokémon birth. I get the feeling that wild births may be more different, like perhaps there are live births like mammals should have.

Moonlight.
23rd May 2006, 9:53 PM
The birth one is kinda obvious, seeing that there's an entire sidequest based on the fact that Elm wants to find out more about eggs (the hatching Togepi sidequest).

The other thing was probably just put in as a fun thing to think about, but I doubt Kanto speak a different language because the two regions are too close to speak entirely different languages (they almost act as one single region), and you meet many different trainers from Kanto, who you can understand.

Gridiron
24th May 2006, 4:52 AM
What's odd in Crystal is that Kurt can only make one type of Pokeball at a time, yet he can make up to 99 of them in one day. You think he would be able to make that many different Pokeballs then.

emeraldellie
24th May 2006, 6:24 AM
What's odd in Crystal is that Kurt can only make one type of Pokeball at a time, yet he can make up to 99 of them in one day. You think he would be able to make that many different Pokeballs then.
Maybe he does them assembly-line-style, by getting out all the parts needed for one certain type of Ball, and does them one-after-another.