Shadow Pokémon?

[Shining Milotic]

Do you think this game will have shadow pokémon like the other two did?

I personally do not because after you purify, there isn't anything exciting about them... (except they sometimes have some good attacks).

[daksunt]

they made two games about it so i dont think they will have them again

[RaikouSpecialLover]

I wouldn't count on no Shadows from this point onward. If Nintendo/GS makes atrend, they tend to stick with it. Unless you guys make a petition...

[Chaotic Houndoom]

I doubt it, if anything, its a new story line.

[.Dan.S.2006.]

I very much believe the shadow component of the 3D RPGs will not be put down until after this game. However I also feel that this game will have either no, or very little, story mode. I know it's the last thing anybody wants but it is a possibility.

[Bulk]

I hope not, Shadow Pokemon were a bit of a let down. It didn't really suit Pokemon, imo. They should jsut have a full 3D version of the RPGs. That's what the fans want, so why not give it to them?

[CardShark]

Depends on if it's made by the same people. If so, I'm afraid Shadow Pokemon will make a comeback.

[SneaselDude777]

hopefully not, i hate purifying pokemon and everything

[The Great Butler]

I'd much rather take a Shadow Pokémon game over a 3D "Get a starter, battle the Gyms, become the champ" rehash. That's what's made Colosseum and XD important--they were different.

[mewfanforlife]

The shadow story allows them to make a somewhot darker plot so I like that. Also, purifying is really easy and fast with the purify chamber.

[umbreunatic]

I hope they won't do that, I also think they won't do it, they probably know a lot of people don't really like it.

[Mudster]

No thank you

[Saratos]

To tell the truth, I hated the shadow/purify system. Id prefer wild pokemon.

[Orion-Sama]

I'd much rather take a Shadow Pokémon game over a 3D "Get a starter, battle the Gyms, become the champ" rehash. That's what's made Colosseum and XD important--they were different.
Butler wins the Thread. :)

It would be OK if Shadow Pokémon returned. At least it's an incentive to pass time with your Pokémon and actually spend time with them, as opposed to get them, evolve them and drop them in a Box for the rest of their lives. Which is the case with all Handhelds. Thanks to Colosseum/XD, I got to know many Pokémon that, due to the handheld's awkwardness, I just used briefly and didn't grow to love them.

It might be annoying (Of course, if you just want it easy... :rolleyes: ), but it has a major impact in those that actually care about Pokémon, and are eager to try new things, and due to the badly planned handhelds, can't saciate their desires.

If it goes... it's OK. But not in favor of a crappy handheld-esque quest...

[CardShark]

Maybe they should just try something completely different. After all, Stadium didn't have much depth, and Collosseum/XD got old fast. "He's got an evil creature of the Pocket Monster variety!" "I say, let's take it!" "TALLY HO!"

[Golde]

I hope not, they sucked :p

[[AceAussie]]

even though i hated shadow pokemon form one reason the time it takes to purrify them but if they fix that like they sort of did in XD i'd be happy after all it's not that bad i mean it could be worse..

[jellsprout]

they made two games about it so i dont think they will have them again

Oh yes, two games about Shadow Pokémon is indeed so much more than the eleven plotless "I got my starter and beat Team Whatever and the Elite Four in the same day" crap.
I would be more upset if they made this another Gym beating game with no plot, depth or realism what-so-ever, than a Shadow Pokémon game, that had the two best plots Pokémon has ever had and with a bit of realism.

I also liked the fact that you had to choose between around 40 Pokémon before Realgam Tower, instead of having 150+ Pokémon to choose from. It forced you to use Pokémon you normally never use and it makes you change oppinions about some Pokémon. The purifying does the same thing. You use Pokémon you normally never thought about using and you are able to see how strong or usefull they actually are. But then the Purifying Chambers in XD just had to ruin that.

I don't see what you people are complaining about? You people keep complaining how Pokémon isn't original, yet you keep *****ing about Colloseum and XD because they're different. If you don't even know what you want, don't post in threads about how an upcoming game should be. Because you obviously don't even know anything about it.

What I personally want, is something that involves legendaries. Pokémon has such great plot potential, yet it is wasted over and over again with those "Get Starter, beat Gyms, beat evil Team you just happened to stumble uppon and beat E4" games. Something simular to Pokémon XD or Colloseum, but without the Shadow Pokémon. Something like Team ??? captured D/P uber and is using is using it to create mass destruction. IMO, much better than some plotless game that has been repeated for over ten times.

[Pokemon4Ever]

Oh yes, two games about Shadow Pokémon is indeed so much more than the eleven plotless "I got my starter and beat Team Whatever and the Elite Four in the same day" crap.
I would be more upset if they made this another Gym beating game with no plot, depth or realism what-so-ever, than a Shadow Pokémon game, that had the two best plots Pokémon has ever had and with a bit of realism.

I also liked the fact that you had to choose between around 40 Pokémon before Realgam Tower, instead of having 150+ Pokémon to choose from. It forced you to use Pokémon you normally never use and it makes you change oppinions about some Pokémon. The purifying does the same thing. You use Pokémon you normally never thought about using and you are able to see how strong or usefull they actually are. But then the Purifying Chambers in XD just had to ruin that.

I don't see what you people are complaining about? You people keep complaining how Pokémon isn't original, yet you keep *****ing about Colloseum and XD because they're different. If you don't even know what you want, don't post in threads about how an upcoming game should be. Because you obviously don't even know anything about it.

What I personally want, is something that involves legendaries. Pokémon has such great plot potential, yet it is wasted over and over again with those "Get Starter, beat Gyms, beat evil Team you just happened to stumble uppon and beat E4" games. Something simular to Pokémon XD or Colloseum, but without the Shadow Pokémon. Something like Team ??? captured D/P uber and is using is using it to create mass destruction. IMO, much better than some plotless game that has been repeated for over ten times.
I don't think you could say they are plotless, but we do need more than evil teams. I think it should be a little of both games. A bit like the GB games and a bit like the GC ones as far as storylines go. The reason being because we can finally see what the games would be like in GOOD 3D this time. I still want a more dangerous plot too though. I don't want shadow pokemon, I want a better plot without shadow pokemon.

[Ex_Mightyena]

Well I dont know if they wil include or not,but since this is for a new console,I think they are going to go a new way.

I hate shadows aswell,even though its the only link to 1 certain ribbon I dont care.And they dont need shadows to make a good game.

[MechaBulba]

I hope not Shadow pokemon where a rubbish idea. They should just keep it like they have it on the Gameboy only in3D or make it like the gd old stadium games on the N64 they rocked!

[Theneedleman]

Why not? I like the Shadow Pokemon theme. It adds a new gaming experience. It's not just the same old "Get starter" "Battle gyms" "Defeat E4" but it actually keeps you on your toes. You never really know what the admins will have in store for you next. The puzzles and challenges are also quite fun. It would be different and exciting to get a "Gameboy themed" Wii platformed game though. Either way I will still be happy and still will play it.

[Mawile XD]

I like the Shadow pokemon. They're a neat idea, and it's not just, "get starter, get badges, defeat evil team, beat E4."

It's a unique game from the others, and the characters actually had personality, plus the Colosseums were fun.

[Davidius]

I'd much rather take a Shadow Pokémon game over a 3D "Get a starter, battle the Gyms, become the champ" rehash. That's what's made Colosseum and XD important--they were different.

While it was good that they were different, but the thing is, many people felt the concept of Shadow Pokémon and purification was boring and unenjoyable overall. Fun should be more of a priority than originality I think.

I'd prefer if they came up with a different concept, one that was both enjoyable and fresh. If they couldn't do that, then I'd rather they make a GB Clone.

[Zero Nexus]

I'd much rather take a Shadow Pokémon game over a 3D "Get a starter, battle the Gyms, become the champ" rehash. That's what's made Colosseum and XD important--they were different.

quoted for the truth!

[Naterio]

Shadow pokemon, Wild Pokemon, 1+2+3+4Gen pokemon, Fight Gym leaders then Evil teams then all E4 in order of games, Mini-games, 1000-pokemon/trainer Mt.battle (500 Trainers, 500 Pokemon without trainers...wild), Pokemon Centure/Box feature (Po St 1/Po St 2/Po Bo), you can emulate R/S/E/FR/LG/D/P into 3D looking GBA/DS graphics.....GAH THATS A LOT!!!!

[PDL]

as long as it's not "Hey you Pikachu" or "Pokemon Channel" I'll be happy.

[Lint]

Well, i would like it if you could start out with the one starter thing, raise it up a bit and then, after a gym battle, you get introduced to the shadow pokemon and then from there you have both plots togther. that might take a bit longer to complete, but it also might not be so boring after a while. what do ya'll think?

[Blaze Dragon]

No please. The shadows were pretty boring. A new plot would be great

[FireTrainer92]

nooooooo! I do not want shadow pokemon. I want a regular pokemon Rpg with wild pokemon

[Weebos, Purveyor of Great Fun]

I personally don't mind shadow pokemon that much, what I would love is a 3-D RPG that combines both elements, you fight against an organization, catching wild pokemon
No gyms.
No shadows.
No elite four.

[Hayate]

I hated shadow pokemon, I hope they don't have 'em here. I loved Stadium. Why did they have to go suck.

[sander2505]

so if you don't liked the shadow pokemon then why did you buyed the games?

[DarkSpectrum]

No please. The shadows were pretty boring. A new plot would be great
Honestly shadow pokemon made perfect sense for the pokemon games. All the evil teams were tryin to catch other people's pokemon and/or strong wild pokemon and force them to do as they wanted. The "shadowfication" was just the extreme end of making them obey. It was also a nice change of pace from the original storyline.
If the Wii and pokemon battle revolution are released soon enough, this would be my idea of a possible storyline with the game:
Since the games are supposed to be able to link up, i'm gonna guess that you can set it to where a certain rival in the diamond/pearl games can be set as your main character in battle-revolution (an option will be set up so that you can play if you don't have the DS games). Every so often in the game you could link up with the DS games and that would sync up certain aspects of the game. Sooo.. based on what starter you had in diamond/pearl, your rival would get one of the other pokemon. From there you could play on the Wii as the rival and you would be able to access certain areas that are unavailable to the DS game. From there, the rival you play as on the Wii has his own evil organization that is troubling him and you must work to overcome them. All the while you are doing a similar gym leader type storyline. I'd say that the evil org has shadow pokemon (because I personally liked it) and it's your job to snag em up to a point where the evil org has captured a legendary and you must save it (let's say before they shadowify it, kinda like a rescue operation). In the end, you've rescued the legendary and earned all your badges to show you're a strong trainer, etc. etc.

[Wandering Rhythmical Phoenix]

they made two games about it so i dont think they will have them again
They made 11 games about the same storyline (more or less) for the rest of the Series :P

I loved the idea of Shadow pokemon, There were some times in the Colo Plot I went "OMG!" (Course, It would be more Dramatic if one of your pokemon (Esp, Umb) got Snagged from you) But if they just Rehash the GBA plots onto 3d, it wont be as cool, If they just rehash the Stadiums, Theres a chance I'll kill. From the looks of the Demo, there was a HUGE CITY THAT HAD A FLOATING ARENA! Maybe there somewhere where all pokemon battles are Government scantiond and you lead an uprising against the goventment!

Too extream eh?

Yes. I want shadows back, but, I want to see them treated diffrently. They said they attack Humans, but you never realy see that Save XD001 and Makuheta in Colo

[D-Boi]

Nice. My lil' storyline goes like this:

You're a beginning trainer who has a dream of becoming famous, right? You then get framed for murder by Cipher. So you go to an abandoned mansion to investigate. Then you get surrounded by the four evil org. leaders and their elite member next to them(Team Rocket, Snagem, Aqua, and Magma). You get to chose which one you wanna team up with to stop Cipher and be against the other three teams, clearly makin' your reputation worse.

With Team Snagem: you get a higher chance of snagging Shadow pokemon

With Team Magma: your ATK and SP. ATK is raised

With Team Aqua: your DEF and SP. DEF is raised

With Team Rocket: your SPD and HP is raised

You get to chose the attacks of your partner's pokemon. And both of you can team up in heated 12 on 12 battles, if needed.

That's just my suggestion, OK?

[Miltank Lover]

i would like a new plot but this time you are on the bad side! instead of saving pkmn you steal them...and help a evil team to rule the world!

[Dragonfree]

I for one would like a plot of epic proportions. I love games with a plot (hence why I would absolutely hate it if this were a Stadium-style game) and Pokémon has always been rather weak in that area. If only they would make a nice, long game with a plot that makes sense (as opposed to all the plot holes in the normal games and how the evil teams never seem to realize they can do something to bring you down other than attempt to beat you in a Pokémon battle), I'd be overjoyed. Then after that plot is over, there could be a handheld-style continuation of the game where you can just explore the world, catch/train Pokémon, and maybe participate in some sort of Pokémon league. (Please not just make you defeat the criminal boss over and over again!) It would be nice if Pokémon had a bigger role in the plot than just being what you use to defeat trainers, too...

[ANinyMouse]

I'm not too keen on the shadow Pokemon. However, I'd say all future Pokemon games could use a real plot line. After you beat all the trainers, you can always train up your own Pokemon, but... it gets so old with no more task/reward scenarios to complete.

Think about Zelda. There's a main quest, but hours of little cool things to complete along the way. This might sound crazy, but I think if they made the Pokemon quest for DP and Battle Revolution more open-ended like a Zelda game, I'd have a lot more fun wasting my hours away.

But please, no more shadow Pokemon...

[chosen_one386]

The Shadow Pokemon added a dark aspect and good plotline in Colo. and XD, but I don't think it will be back in Battle Revolution.

Stadium 1 & 2 (N64): Stadium themed.

Colo. & XD (GC): Shadow Pokemon.

Battle Revolution (Wii): Different plotline for different system IMO.

[~Water Lucario~]

No, It is a new consol and shadow Pokemon were for the GCN only. The Wii will have normal Pokemon or a new idea but I doubt the shadow Pokemon will return and if they do, I will hunt Nintendo down one by one... XD

[silverlugia2]

I think they wouldn't do the shadow pokemon plot again. I believe it would be somewhat like the gameboy games and the game cube games put together

[mo_money]

i seriously hope they won't because i'm tired of purifying sucky pokemon.

[-Koumori-]

I enjoyed Colosseum and XD quite a bit, though the Shadow Pokemon thing was a little much for me after a while. I'll be fine with whatever they do with this game, as long as it has a storyline of some sort - something to do to pass the time. They've taken two steps forward as I see it. From what I can tell the 3D models of the Pokemon are completely redone, and when they use an attack where they themselves are meant to contact with the opponent (Body Slam, Volt Tackle, etc) they're shown doing so.

[nailgunfd]

I don't see the shadow pokemon thing happening, but it's just me.

[Wes]

Why not? If you can improve the formula then go ahead! If there us something I liked about Shadow Pokemon was the challenge they brought and seeing how the 3D games usually have the harder Computer Opponents the Shadow Pokemon just made it more tough but in a good way.

Plus you get to steal or should I say snag as a good guy. Intersting concept. Plus they made the story more dramatic and serious. Project XD001 was one surprise and how showed how good the new bad antagonists were actually compared to the villains of the Nintendo Handheld games. They can actually take control of Legendary Pokemon and turn them into heartless fighting machines! While Team Magma/Aqua couldn't for their respective goal as an example or Mewtwo of Team Rocket. It shows how better and superior the new guys were with the Shadow Pokemon. Shadow Pokemon rule!

[Naterio]

Lets say your pokemon can finally get stolen as well...thats was T. Snagems whole plan...but not just them....others with modified Snag Gloves...SWEET!

[Trooper Guy]

I hope they do bring this back, as the whole, 'choose starter, get first badge' thing can be annoying, and is a new way to play. And starting with lvl 25 pokemon is pretty cool, imo. I think shadow pokemon should actualy turn evil (a la Shadow Lugia) to keep them looking unique, instead of a crappy gas around them.

[XDbonsly]

Maybe it is like pokemon Stadium, and when you beat the game you unlock something. Maybe that something is shadow pokemon.

[MewMaster]

they made two games about it so i dont think they will have them again

Are u sure?
at the end of xd
Ardos escaped
and that could be the next non gameboy adventure

[Shinin]

Maybe it is like pokemon Stadium, and when you beat the game you unlock something. Maybe that something is shadow pokemon.

Unlocking shadow pokemon in a normal Stadium game would be useless.

[Ex_Mightyena]

I hate purifying pokemn thats not worht purifying>>

[Dark Absol]

Shadow Pokemon in Battle Revolution? Don't know...If they put more shadow pokemon in that game, we'd have to pull the anchor once again. It would be nice not to "snag" and purify anymore shadow pokemon once in a while.

[Lint]

Nice. My lil' storyline goes like this:

You're a beginning trainer who has a dream of becoming famous, right? You then get framed for murder by Cipher. So you go to an abandoned mansion to investigate. Then you get surrounded by the four evil org. leaders and their elite member next to them(Team Rocket, Snagem, Aqua, and Magma). You get to chose which one you wanna team up with to stop Cipher and be against the other three teams, clearly makin' your reputation worse.

With Team Snagem: you get a higher chance of snagging Shadow pokemon

With Team Magma: your ATK and SP. ATK is raised

With Team Aqua: your DEF and SP. DEF is raised

With Team Rocket: your SPD and HP is raised

You get to chose the attacks of your partner's pokemon. And both of you can team up in heated 12 on 12 battles, if needed.

That's just my suggestion, OK?

I heard something like that a while ago, except you had the choice of joing the evil team, becoming a gym leader or something like that (you could only have one type of pokemon was the catch), and the normal quest.(beat the gyms, beat E4 etc. I think I saw it on the Nintendo forums. the person had it all really well thought out. like what the consequenses were and that you could only catch certain pokemon in each one... it was pretty cool. I'l post again if i find it.

[Samayowa]

I hope not. Those games were boring... IMO anyway. But even if it is I'll still buy it.

[Kingdra]

I'm fine with Shadow Pokemon or Wild Pokemon

[RetardedPikachu]

Knowing Nintendo, they will milk the shadow pokemon thing until it is as old as the gym challenge. I am looking forward to the pokemon actually hitting eachother

[Lord Sonny XIXI]

No more shadow pokemon and no GB plot rehash.


1 sequel to PC is enough and if shadows are introduced a THIRD time, it will get old. I also agree that the GB games are too bland and boring. We need something new and fun. A revolution!

[pharaohguy530]

I want shadow pokemon to return, including lots of wild pokemon too. I mean, the wild pokemon would be good, and shadow pokemon would be awesome, since I am a master snagger.
Plus, seeing a pokemon using shadow rush physically onto another pokemon, that would be extremely cool! Seeing them smack eachother as hard as possible into a building that would fall on them....*imagines*

[FlameTrainer]

well, i think perhaps mixing the shadow pokemon story with the normal RPG story would be a good idea, something like this:

You are a future trainer who has just moved to .... city. There, you receive your very own starter pokemon, and set out on an adventure to defeat all pokemon gyms and the elite four. But when travelling around, you discover a sinister plot of a dark group who turn pokemon to evil. You then meet a professor who hands you a Snag Machine, and a Shadow-Detector. You mist rid the region of Shadow Pokemon, defeat this dark group, and then finish your gym challenge.

There might also be some characters from the anime that help you, or fight you. Like this:

Team Rocket (Jessie & James): They run into you and fight you. After you run into them some more, they eventually become your allies in stopping this evil group after the group made Meowth into a Shadow Pokemon.

Their Pokemon:

Arbok:

Wrap
Poison Sting
Dig
Headbutt

Weezing:

Smokescreen
Smog
Sludge
Tackle

Seviper:

Poison Tail
Bite
Wrap
Tackle

Cacnea:

Needle Arm
Pin Missile
Sandstorm
Tackle

Chimecho:

Heal Bell
Yawn
Confusion
Charm

Dustox:

Psybeam
Poison Sting
Tackle
Gust

And Brock & Misty, who also lend a hand in stopping the evil group.

Their Pokemon:

Brock's:

Marshtomp:

Mud Shot
Water Gun
Tackle
Mud-Slap

Forretress:

Tackle
Rapid Spin
Spikes
Explosion

Bonsly:

Fake Tears
Take Down
Charm
Tackle

Misty's:

Gyarados:

Flamethrower
Hydro Pump
Hyper Beam
Double-Edge

Staryu:

Water Gun
Rapid Spin
Swift
Tackle

Corsola:

Recover
Spike Cannon
Take Down
Mirror Coat

And you will also run into Ash once, who is doing the battle frontier challenge, and he wants to battle you. He has:

Pikachu:

Volt Tackle
Iron Tail
Quick Attack
Thunderbolt

Sceptile:

Quick Attack
Solarbeam
Leaf Blade
Bullet Seed

Donphan:

Earthquake
Rollout
Hyper Beam
Defense Curl

Swellow:

Aerial Ace
Quick Attack
Wing Attack
Peck

Corphish:

Bubblebeam
Crabhammer
Vicegrip
Harden

Charizard:

Dragon Rage
Flamethrower
Fly
Seismic Toss

[Kingdra]

Stealing and Reviving shadow pokemon get's pretty old after two games...so i think they will drop the shadow pokemon.

[Deathborn_606]

I really did like the whole shadow pokemon concept. The whole get a starter, stop a evil team who isn't really evil, and beat the elite 4 only to find that you have to do it again.

Now Collosseum and XD showed me the goodness of some pokemon I never knew of, like Umbreon for example. Plus Cipher is probalay the most evil organzation I have ever seen. Not like Rocket and Aqua/Magma {Who turn good in the end}.

So really if they bring back the shadow pokemon plot in PBR then yeah I'll be happy. But I would play it no matter what anyway.

[Bulbatordile]

I liked the story of Collosseum and XD but i would rather have something new in Battle Revolution else it runs the risk of becoming too repetative... Someone decides to seal the hearts of pokemon for a third time!...and you have to save them by sn...a...g... A fresh story would be better!

[coolcobra77]

I honstely hope they dont becuase it got stupid you need special devices to see em... and you need to purify them and be nice


I really wish we could join up with a team and destroy stuff


and not end up "I have seen the error in my ways I must be good" ending!

totally bad tootally evil and totoally killer!


BUT NO MORE SHADOWS they did it 2 times and failed miserbly what idiot would try again!

[SHUCKLE MAN]

I hope there are no shadows...

[ArrEmmDee]

Only if we can see the nature immediately upon capture. My XD 'mon are all currently sucking, and I'm only a quarter of the way through.

[Shiny_Latias]

I guess a few shadows would be cool.

[Wes]

Stealing and Reviving shadow pokemon get's pretty old after two games...so i think they will drop the shadow pokemon.


And beating eight gyms and a elite four isn't old as well?

[~Bent~]

I wouldn't mind if Shadow Pokemon returned, as long as we have breeding capabilities. Taking the time to purify a Pokemon and finding out it doesn't have the right Nature or right EVs gets quite frustrating, after all.

[Golden_Latias]

I don't think they will, but I wouldn't mind if they did. Shadow Pokemon was different from the usual Gym Leader-E4 story.

However, I would prefer an entirely new story, with a bada** villian like the Mask of Ice from the manga. . . well, he was bada** until his identity was revealed, but that's not the point. Point is, maybe someone evil is trying to control the all the legendaries from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Shinou for world domination or something. I dunno.

I honstely hope they dont becuase it got stupid you need special devices to see em... and you need to purify them and be nice


I really wish we could join up with a team and destroy stuff


and not end up "I have seen the error in my ways I must be good" ending!

totally bad tootally evil and totoally killer!


BUT NO MORE SHADOWS they did it 2 times and failed miserbly what idiot would try again!
Actually, the ratings tell a different story.

Gamespot gave Pokemon Colosseum a 7.3 out of 10, which is GOOD. Don't treat it as if it was school, where a 7 out of 10 is a C, which is average.

Pokemon XD:Gale of Darkness got a 6.9 out of 10. This is above average. Still good. Again, don't treat it as school, where 6/10 is a D, which is below average.

And isn't the whole point of Pokemon battling together as friends?

[metafreak]

ii guess you could have a few shadows. but i would like the story to be you already beat the elite four in Hoenn and you have an evolved starter only with you. then u hear in the news a tournament is being held in the joohto region. once you start traveling to johto. an evil team (whatever) is trying to capture legendaries. they have heard about you and they trie to stop you from getting to johto. and so forth...

[Zapdos39]

I also think shadow pokemon will go because it will probably get old

[A_1]

I hated the whole idea of shadow pokemon in those games. Just didn't seem to fit right for me. :(

[jellsprout]

*vain twitches on forehead*
How incredibly hypocrite are you people. You don't want Shadow Pokémon to return because they have already appeared in two other games, but you do want Gyms to return, although they have appeared in 13 games at that time? Sorry to say this, but you people seriously need to find out what you really want before you go whining that Shadows are getting repetative.
The Shadow plot was better than any other plot. Just because it was different, doesn't mean that it was bad. If you don't think that fully utulizing the potential of Pokémon is better than another "10 year old got first Pokémon and became the best trainer within a few hours", go get yourself a brain, because you obviously lack one. I don't care if I offended someone with this, because it is the truth.

Besides having the best plot any Pokémon game ever had, Shadow Pokémon brought along tons of other advantages.
First, it got rid of the kiddy look of Pokémon. Instead of a ten year old, you are now a young adult, who rides a big-*** motorcycle, who has chick following him around and who steals Pokémon from other trainers for a living. And the Shadow Pokémon also help with that. Pokémon that attack humans without doubting and with the goal to conquer the planet. That isn't kiddy.
Second, it forced you to use Pokémon you would have never thought of using before and to see their greatness. Skarmory, Heracross, Metagross, Umbreon. I would have never realised how good they are if I wasn't forced to use them. And that also includes tons of others. These games, unlike the portable games, don't let you choose from 100+ Pokémon and that is something I like.
Third, they aren't the exact same story as the other games. The Power Unlimited, the biggest gaming magazine of where I live, didn't rate Emerald because they though it was to simular to the other games. Yet they rated Colloseum and XD with high grades, because they were different from the other games and more adult.

So if you people will now just shut up about Shadows getting repetative, abd find out what you really. And if you really want to whine about Pokémon games getting repetative, go to the D/P section. Because that "plot" is getting repetative.

[stizi]

no thanks shadow pokemon are boring

[Blue_Mew]

I think that they should put less Shadow Pokémon in but not remove them all together and mix it with the GB games. Then they could add bits for once you've finished and if you've got the Wii linked up online then you can download more, rare shadow Pokémon

[daksunt]

make shadow pokemon come back but with other advantages like other region games. there is a bad team. you have to defeat them but there is also gyms and e4 and many things to do. it would be cool to use a shadow pokemon against a gym leader. save the shadow pokemons with the help of other trainers. what i mean is its a bit weird a kid to defeat a team which is powerful also rich i guess. and make every pokemons shadow form. and i always wanted to make a pokemon shadow so it would be nice to make your pokemon shadow as well. one last thing what would happen if u had the shadow pokemons in dp traded from wii. i wont think of it

[BiggestRukarioFan]

I loved the plot. It was 3-D and had way better graphics then the N-64 games, had a whole new plot other then "10 year old kid gets first pokemon and starts on an adventure all the pokemon and beat the gym leaders and the elite 4" I'm not saying those are bad but I can't beat that in a couple of hours! Colluseum and XD could also be beaten that quickly too but you can't purify all the pokemon and finish everything in a couple of hours in that game.

Just a note if they do have shadow pokemon in the new game I really hope you can't get past a certain point, like not get an important message until you purify a certain amount of pokemon.

[Shinin]

I loved the plot. It was 3-D and had way better graphics then the N-64 games, had a whole new plot other then "10 year old kid gets first pokemon and starts on an adventure all the pokemon and beat the gym leaders and the elite 4" I'm not saying those are bad but I can't beat that in a couple of hours! Colluseum and XD could also be beaten that quickly too but you can't purify all the pokemon and finish everything in a couple of hours in that game.

Just a note if they do have shadow pokemon in the new game I really hope you can't get past a certain point, like not get an important message until you purify a certain amount of pokemon.

You're comparing just beating the Elite 4 in the normal games and finishing everything in Colosseum and XD. Finishing everything in one of the normal games takes longer than beating everything in Colosseum or XD.

[Kikas123]

Shadow Pokemon would be great, if it was a snagging game, but if it ain't, than no.

[Mewgia]

Here's my idea: At the begining of the game you have to fill a 'questionaire' of your personality to see with what pokemon you start. You start the game. you are the champion of the ... league and you are invited to the ultimate pokemon championship in the battle frontier. you go there. You start the championsip and you heard that there are trainers with invencible pokemon (ubers) that had unknown attacks. So you must infiltrate in there's organization...
you start with a new pokemon to join them but you also have your old pokemon(s) but you cannot use them at least you fight with the leaders. After a while you hear that the pokemon that they have were shadow pokemon. when you returned to the championship the 'evil' participants had quit it. you return to the league and you get challenged by that evil person. he has shadow lugia,ho-oh,groundoun,kyogre,rayquaza and mewtwo. he beats you and he becomes the champion.After you loose you must destroy that evil organizatoin to recover your tittle...
you travel to orre to learn how to defeat them. But it's not that easy because when you travel there the evil organization snag all your pokemon but the new one and made them shadow and distribute them into the six vice-leaders that are all distributed on Hoen ,Jhoto and kanto(two in each).
So you must recover your pokemon to defeat the new evil champion...
Also: you can't catch wild pokemon because the evil organization will say to the police that you are a criminal so you cant buy pokeballs, you only ca use the snagged pokemon because someone in orre will give you Snagballs thatcan only catch shadow pokemon.


I know it's a bit stupid but it will be good.

[hobohunter]

Here's my idea


You first start on a Pokemon journy in a new region and you can choose any of the 12 starters including the ones form d/p and then you continue battling gym leaders when you find out that most of this region is controled by an evil organization. after stopping them a couple of times, you find out that 4 out of the 8 gymm leaders in that region are also part of the organization and they also capture legendaries to use at their diposal so you, the other 4 gym leaders, and the Elite Four must work to try and stop them from destroying the region

[PikachuRocks4Ever]

I just hope they have a new plot that doesn't involve shadow Pokemon.It takes out all the fun of capturing pokemon in the wild.

[Mikau]

I really hope there isn't any shadow pokemon. It just gets so boring when you purify and evolve all of them.

[rocky505]

if there are shadow's they should have wartortle charmeleon and ivysaur

[daksunt]

Here's my idea: At the begining of the game you have to fill a 'questionaire' of your personality to see with what pokemon you start. You start the game. you are the champion of the ... league and you are invited to the ultimate pokemon championship in the battle frontier. you go there. You start the championsip and you heard that there are trainers with invencible pokemon (ubers) that had unknown attacks. So you must infiltrate in there's organization...
you start with a new pokemon to join them but you also have your old pokemon(s) but you cannot use them at least you fight with the leaders. After a while you hear that the pokemon that they have were shadow pokemon. when you returned to the championship the 'evil' participants had quit it. you return to the league and you get challenged by that evil person. he has shadow lugia,ho-oh,groundoun,kyogre,rayquaza and mewtwo. he beats you and he becomes the champion.After you loose you must destroy that evil organizatoin to recover your tittle...
you travel to orre to learn how to defeat them. But it's not that easy because when you travel there the evil organization snag all your pokemon but the new one and made them shadow and distribute them into the six vice-leaders that are all distributed on Hoen ,Jhoto and kanto(two in each).
So you must recover your pokemon to defeat the new evil champion...
Also: you can't catch wild pokemon because the evil organization will say to the police that you are a criminal so you cant buy pokeballs, you only ca use the snagged pokemon because someone in orre will give you Snagballs thatcan only catch shadow pokemon.


I know it's a bit stupid but it will be good.
no if we cut off some area it should be great. the first battle is too uberish even you get defeated.(he should control rayquaza)and being a champion hmm maybe it should stay the same. and after you finish the game you will give your pokemon to police organization to make them protect orre and you continue with your new orre pokemon(because after the game finishes you will have strong pokemon without training them))

[Mewgia]

no if we cut off some area it should be great. the first battle is too uberish even you get defeated.(he should control rayquaza)and being a champion hmm maybe it should stay the same. and after you finish the game you will give your pokemon to police organization to make them protect orre and you continue with your new orre pokemon(because after the game finishes you will have strong pokemon without training them))

the idea of the new orre pokemon is that when you recover your old ones the new would be equal or better than the oders but i liked your idea to.

[RaikouSpecialLover]

What is it with everyone saying that Shadow Pokemon suck? I actually like it, and these days, Nintendo CAN and WILL keep trends going. Since Colo/XD were best sellers, you guys are literally going to pull a FRIGGEN PROTEST because you resist change from the GBA games. That's really sad...

[Cooltrainer Nick]

If Shadow Pokemon appear,I will not...buy..probaly.I hated the Shadow PKMN idea.

[indigestible_wad]

Man, it would be great if they did have shadow pokemon, because wild ones just suck now, imo. I do doubt that they will have shadow pokemon though, because that was the third gen's idea, so they want something new to put in the fourth. Either way, I hope it's something new from the cliche catch a pokemon in the grass thing.

[D-Boi]

Shadow PKMN or not, I won't give a F**K, i'm gettin' that game! The graphics and other s**t is way too good to miss out.

[gydra]

The only problem I have with shadow pokemon is that you can't use them normally without purifying (excuse my spelling) them. It would be nice if you could keep thier shadow status and attacks.

[cooltrainervince]

i really dont think that there will be shadow pokes and i really hope there arent. i dont like the xd/colosseum storyline, mucho boring. why cant it be kind of like diamond pearl with kick a** graphics and stuff. i would like that