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Soquid Fpoon
4th July 2006, 9:00 PM
One of my Friends has resently told me about Sneasal and Weaville. They said that they will be a Pre-Evolution of Sneasal and Weaville. The Pre-Evoltuins evolves like espeon and Umbroen. Now that the new Diamond and Pearl actually shows day and night you will be able to tell when to evolve the Pokemon. Pre-Evo will be Normal, but I don't know which evolves in the day or Night Time? Maybe Weaville won't be wild?

Discuss-

FlamingRuby
4th July 2006, 9:10 PM
If we knew there'd be a pre-evo of Sneasel, wouldn't we have known a long time ago?

hIrAm
4th July 2006, 11:21 PM
I can't even understand what you wrote. Is that english?

Please, explain yourself further.

Soquid Fpoon
4th July 2006, 11:21 PM
I'm not really sure, but it maybe because it's in the new movie.

Vycksta
4th July 2006, 11:55 PM
*dons Grammar Nazi outfit* Firstly, it is Sneasel and Weavile. Are these two names so hard to type? >BBBBBBBBB

Secondly if there was a Sneasel pre-evo not only would we have heard about it by now considering Weavile as been on the scene for well over a year and secondly I would be going about bigging it up like the Sneasel obsessed nut I am.

Plus I doubt there would be wild Weavile's.

Kikas123
5th July 2006, 1:22 AM
Hmmmmm. Depends, if they would, Serebii normally would be all over that

Silver Dragonair
5th July 2006, 2:42 AM
I cant stand Weavile already and it hasnt even been in the games. Weavile is so over-rated.

Sneasel is cool though. I always liked sneasel since G/S/C

gradevoirs_leader
5th July 2006, 10:52 AM
no dude theres no evidence to show a pre evo os sneasle

Vycksta
5th July 2006, 12:03 PM
I cant stand Weavile already and it hasnt even been in the games. Weavile is so over-rated.

Sneasel is cool though. I always liked sneasel since G/S/CWeavile, over-rated? Ha, if a Pokemon is over-rated for having a movie appearance before it appears in the game then that's just pathetic.

... and you can't blame people for wanting to see Weavile's special attack stat, giving Sneasel's is base 35. Still, either way I would have one... and 5 Sneasels.

Soquid Fpoon
5th July 2006, 6:01 PM
Again Weaville is in the Movie so thats why they aren't showing the Pre-Evo.

All of you guys are saying their is no proof thier is one, but thier is also no proof thier isn't one. I mean We don't now anything about the other Pokemon besides the Legendaries and the Pokemon in the 8th Movie.

Vycksta
5th July 2006, 7:25 PM
Well this is the first time a lot of people has heard it, so naturally they are not going to believe it. I know I don't.

spareux
5th July 2006, 8:03 PM
Weavile wouldn't be in the wild. Just seems pointless having him if you can catch him.
I highly doubt they'd add another stupid pointless pre-evo to a chain, neevr mind one that's got a new evo. Aren't they wasting enough numbers with the likes of Mime Jr.? I do like Tamanta, though.

Pearl's Perap
5th July 2006, 8:50 PM
Where do you get proof of this pre-evo my child?

There is no Sneasel pre-evo known as of now, so don't even try to back up the argument, it's all a load of BS conjured up into one of them 'my friend told me...' stories that accompany each and every pokémon game going..

Zak

the shadow dragon Zetrono
5th July 2006, 9:54 PM
All of you guys are saying their is no proof thier is one, but thier is also no proof thier is one.
man get spelling lessons. you just proved yourself wrong. there will be no pre-evo.:@

slimshorty
5th July 2006, 10:33 PM
wow a sneasel pre-evo lmao

slimshorty
5th July 2006, 10:33 PM
wow a sneasel pre-evo lmao

Pearl's Perap
5th July 2006, 10:46 PM
wow a sneasel pre-evo lmao

Wow, an un-needed double post about a non-existant pokémon lmao.

But seriously, I agree with the shadow dragon, this guy's grammar went against him..>__>

Zak

Soquid Fpoon
6th July 2006, 3:39 AM
My firend was looking at Sites and was telling me at Pokemon league about them. He might be wrong concidering that he said their will be a grass Eevee.

The Great Butler
6th July 2006, 4:05 AM
The Grass Eevee is one of the oldest rumors out there.....

The_Landlord
6th July 2006, 4:08 AM
There will be no grass Eevee, because there simply is no ways to evolve Eevee left, besides trading with an item, which would seem quite unlikely. Plus, too many evolutions of the same Pokemon would be ridiculous... also, a baby Sneasel would be absolutely pointless. You should read my thread bashing baby pokemon, it's somewhere around here, can't remember. Anyway, I like Sneasel a lot, just never used him because I use Tyranitar a lot, and I don't need the 4x weakness to Fighting two times on my team. I think I might use Weavile though in the next gen. He looks sick...

Eerie Wind
6th July 2006, 5:05 AM
Thats garbage!

Silver Dragonair
6th July 2006, 5:13 AM
Weavile, over-rated? Ha, if a Pokemon is over-rated for having a movie appearance before it appears in the game then that's just pathetic.

... and you can't blame people for wanting to see Weavile's special attack stat, giving Sneasel's is base 35. Still, either way I would have one... and 5 Sneasels.

I wanna see its special attack too. But its fan base is rediculous. I never seen so much hype for a pokemon. Other than munchlax for the Shinou region. Not even manaphy is getting this much hype.

Personaly Weavile isnt as cool looking as sneasel. Thats why I think its over-rated. Sneasel lost its coolness when it evolves into that abomination. I also think Weavile is ugly. Manyula was a better name too =/

indigestible_wad
6th July 2006, 7:03 AM
Do you know why there will be no baby for sneasel? Because there is already an evolution of it. Has there ever been two more pokemon in an evolutions series before? (besides eevee because that's different) No, and they will never introduce two more pokemon because it doesn't make sense and it would confuse many people as to why the pokemon got two more connected to it. It would be too much to handle. It's an unrealistic idea. Tell your friend to stop making up rumors.

Vycksta
6th July 2006, 12:25 PM
I wanna see its special attack too. But its fan base is rediculous. I never seen so much hype for a pokemon. Other than munchlax for the Shinou region. Not even manaphy is getting this much hype.

Personaly Weavile isnt as cool looking as sneasel. Thats why I think its over-rated. Sneasel lost its coolness when it evolves into that abomination. I also think Weavile is ugly. Manyula was a better name too =/I like Weavile, but I honestly do not see how it's over-rated. If anything all I hear about is Munchlax, Bonsly and Mime Jr.

Much as I like Weavile, I can still see myself raising up an army of Sneasels... and transferring my cuirrent army on Emerald over. My craze for Sneasel will never die, but i'll gladly raise of couple of Weaviles.

Pure
6th July 2006, 4:13 PM
Well, on the topic, that is not true, as far as we know. There is no evidence to suggest that, so we will say no pre-evo until the entire cast of Shinou pokemon are revealed. If there still isn't one, then...

Silver Dragonair
7th July 2006, 4:54 AM
I like Weavile, but I honestly do not see how it's over-rated. If anything all I hear about is Munchlax, Bonsly and Mime Jr.

Much as I like Weavile, I can still see myself raising up an army of Sneasels... and transferring my cuirrent army on Emerald over. My craze for Sneasel will never die, but i'll gladly raise of couple of Weaviles.

Bonsly and Mime JR. suck also >_< Munchlax is okay, not anything special.

Bonsly and Mime Jr. have horrible designs.

miken park
7th July 2006, 5:08 AM
Manyula was a better name too =/
Yes, Weavile is a crap name. It has nothing to do with the sneasel line.

indigestible_wad
7th July 2006, 6:57 AM
Eh, everyone likes the japanese names better because they were introduced first before the english ones. SO people get used to it and don't like the change as much.

Vycksta
7th July 2006, 8:09 PM
Bonsly and Mime JR. suck also >_< Munchlax is okay, not anything special.

Bonsly and Mime Jr. have horrible designs.Holy, I found someone who agrees with me! Such a rarity for me, all I hear where I live are Munchlax this, Bonsly that, Mime Jr this. So annoying. x.x

@ Ruzzy: Sneasel is sneak + weasel. Weavile is weasel + vile. So yes, it DOES.

CRYSTALCELEBI
8th July 2006, 3:13 PM
Weavile is way better than sneasel ever was and will be.Weavile isn't overatted, people like him because he is one of the only cool pokemon revealed so far...Buizeru is WAY too overrated not Weavile, Buizeru. By the way, that junk that "my friend told me" is crap.Just wanted to get that out.

Vycksta
8th July 2006, 8:18 PM
Weavile is way better than sneasel ever was and will be.... and you're judging that by looks alone? How shallow.

SneazzL.com
8th July 2006, 9:08 PM
You mean there is an little pre evo of sneasel that evolves in sneasel or weavile (i already tought something like that because weavile doesnt like much stronger bigger then sneasel)

Eszett
8th July 2006, 9:10 PM
*dons Grammar Nazi outfit* Firstly, it is Sneasel and Weavile. Are these two names so hard to type? >BBBBBBBBB*dons Lexicon Nazi outfit* You mean you're correcting the spelling.

And what's the matter with having Manyula as a wild Pokemon? For all we know, it might evolve from a new sort of mechanic that could be achieved in the wild, plus they constantly make mention of it coming often in pairs. This could verily mean wild double battles against two different Manyula, which would make me overwhelmed with joy as I raise up a whole team of them. ;)

No matter what happens, I'm still holding out for Manyula to have some semblance of a Special Attack - considering it's a dual special type and it gets Calm Mind, Ice Beam, Surf, and hopefully a good Dark move - Faint Attack does not count - it is definitely more suited to use this bunch of moves than it is to using lackluster physical attacks with low base powers. Considering that these two types are my two favorite in the whole game, I would be in as much love with Sneasel as Vycksta here if it could only use some special attacks. It isn't too much for which to ask.

Please, don't botch up Manyula. :(

pinkechidna
8th July 2006, 11:22 PM
Well, first off I seriously DOUBT Sneasel and Manyula will have a pre-evo. Pre-evos are usually revealed early. And there's also the fact that Manyula is the evolution of Sneasel, not to mention one of the flagship Pokemon for the 4th generation leads me to believe there will be no pre-evo.

As far as the name goes, I've been calling her Manyula ever since I saw her. I dislike the name Weavile, too close to weevil in spelling, but as it is with Nyura/Sneasel I will likely come to accept the change over time.

I don't see how Manyula is overrated. I have been a fan of Sneasel from the very beginning and I was THRILLED to see her get an evolution. I really like Manyula's design. I think the baby Pokemon get all the hype. But as is with any Pokemon revealed before they games, of course people pay a lot of attention to them, they're all we have!

At Eszett, I am with you on the special attack thing! Though I've always been more than happy to focus on using Sneasel's attack stat I am hoping for Manyula to have some decent special attack! STAB baby! :D

I do disagree with your comment about "lackluster physcial attacks with low base powers" though. I'm a big fan of Shadow Ball, a HUGE fan. It's got a decent base power and is crazy useful for wasting all those psychic types. But that possibility of decent special attack is making me squirm. Manyula can crush all those dragon types with a nice Ice Beam, >D!

Vycksta
9th July 2006, 12:17 AM
I would be in as much love with Sneasel as Vycksta here if it could only use some special attacks.Hehehe, seems that people are knowing me for my Sneasel obsession. ^^;

I too am looking forward to seeing if Weavile has a good base special attack stat, so he can get some STAB and it means that I could finally have some special sweeping Sharp Claws, even if none of them will be my darling Sneasels. Mind you, I do have a special sweeping Sneasels on Emerald. Gotta love some crack. Plus she's great to surf around Hoenn...

*blink*

So much as I would like some STAB for this evolution line, if it doesn't happen then I wouldn't care. My Sneasels can hold off very well with the likes of Shadow Ball, Brick Break and Aerial Ace and i'd gladly prove it in a battle if it was possible.

Plus i'll more and likely raise up Sneasels as it is.

Eszett
9th July 2006, 3:02 AM
Vycksta, while I find it commendable that you were able to train up so many Sneasels, I'm too much of a stinking perfectionist to touch the thing. It really is a pity, though, since I love how it looks.

The issue I see right now with Sneasel is that the physical moves it does get don't really do it much good. Of the attacks you mentioned, only Shadow Ball and Aerial Ace really have some practical use, albeit not enough to rescue the poor bugger: Shadow Ball, having a decent 80 power, can hit everything with a super-effective hit that Dark can hit likewise. Unfortunately, it still lacks STAB, which leaves much to be desired even when it does make a super-effective hit. Aerial Ace, while covering all of Sneasel's weaknesses on its Dark-type side, has but a meager 60 base power, so even then it still will not be hurting many things. Brick Break hardly does anything for Sneasel: while it's super-effective against Rock types, they all have such incredible defense that most of them can shrug it off. It might catch a Tyranitar off-guard, but that thing could clobber Sneasel with an Rock Slide anyway.

Manyula does not deserve to be relegated to such a second class of existence. What it needs more than anything is a healthy Special Attack stat: it has all the moves it needs except for Crunch or some other powerful Dark move, and even if its defense does not increase much it would still be fast enough to be able to put a serious dent in any threats to whatever might be sent in against it. While HP and Defense are certainly two things that would be helpful for it, those priorities cannot come before that of keeping its Speed high and making its Special Attack good, and its Special Defense is already good enough.

Essentially, I want to see Manyula actually be a Dark/Ice type instead of some faceless physical sweeper.

Pikachu1125
9th July 2006, 10:30 AM
Weavile is all about looks.

Teehee
9th July 2006, 11:01 AM
Vycksta, while I find it commendable that you were able to train up so many Sneasels, I'm too much of a stinking perfectionist to touch the thing. It really is a pity, though, since I love how it looks.

The issue I see right now with Sneasel is that the physical moves it does get don't really do it much good. Of the attacks you mentioned, only Shadow Ball and Aerial Ace really have some practical use, albeit not enough to rescue the poor bugger: Shadow Ball, having a decent 80 power, can hit everything with a super-effective hit that Dark can hit likewise. Unfortunately, it still lacks STAB, which leaves much to be desired even when it does make a super-effective hit. Aerial Ace, while covering all of Sneasel's weaknesses on its Dark-type side, has but a meager 60 base power, so even then it still will not be hurting many things. Brick Break hardly does anything for Sneasel: while it's super-effective against Rock types, they all have such incredible defense that most of them can shrug it off. It might catch a Tyranitar off-guard, but that thing could clobber Sneasel with an Rock Slide anyway.

Manyula does not deserve to be relegated to such a second class of existence. What it needs more than anything is a healthy Special Attack stat: it has all the moves it needs except for Crunch or some other powerful Dark move, and even if its defense does not increase much it would still be fast enough to be able to put a serious dent in any threats to whatever might be sent in against it. While HP and Defense are certainly two things that would be helpful for it, those priorities cannot come before that of keeping its Speed high and making its Special Attack good, and its Special Defense is already good enough.

Essentially, I want to see Manyula actually be a Dark/Ice type instead of some faceless physical sweeper.

You forgot CRUSH CLAW *75 base power, 95% accurate*. Which makes Sneasel good actually, seeing as that lowers defense with a 50% chance, and 95% isn't all that bad. Yeah it can miss, but so can Tackle lol. I'm looking forward to the surprise Weavile has in store. And Sneasel's been a physical sweeper since GSC days. I doubt there will be much change...

Alakazam
9th July 2006, 1:33 PM
I don't think that Sneasal will have a pre-evo. It doesn't seem to be able to have one.

Vycksta
9th July 2006, 1:43 PM
Weavile is all about looks.Duh, cause it's still the only thing we can go on. Still a shallow reason to hate him though.

@ Eszett: Seems that Teehee beat me to it... Sneasel is a physical sweeper despite lack of STAB. ... and Teehee beat me again with the mention of Crush Claw. I'm actually surprised I didn't bring that up, but I had a friend here at the time so i'll blame him. ^^

I honestly don't think Weavile will be screwed in terms of stats. The only question is special attack but I still think it'll be fairly average, take into consideration the fact that he's an evolution. Granted Sneasel's is base 35... but you never know, it could be like the Scyther/Scizor stat change... gain power in some stats, lose it in others. I wouldn't mind that.

Eszett
9th July 2006, 9:03 PM
If Slowpoke can have a 60-base increase in its Special Attack upon evolving, why not Sneasel? Granted, I would like it to be at least 100, but 95 is still a very good Special Attack stat.

And I realize that Sneasel is a physical sweeper, but still I insist that its moves and Attack are not enough to suffice. It does get a variety of moves, but Swords Dance is essentially a necessity on it should it hope to do some damage with a bunch of STAB-less moves. That and the numerous physical weaknesses coupled with its lackluster Defense makes the bugger not able to pull it through even in BL circles.

It truly is regrettable because I love his type combination, but can't get over the fact that he can't actually use it. Please, I'm hoping for a change with Manyula. :(

Vycksta
9th July 2006, 11:19 PM
Admittedly, in terms of competitive battling i'm BL/UU/NU, which Sneasel is very good in all. I know that outside of those tiers she will have trouble, major trouble. Mind you, you aren't dismissing Sneasel as a OHKO wonder, which I get from a lot of people. Thanks for that.

... and you aren't dissing the type combo as well. I get so much stick sticking up for the typing of the Sharp Claw.

I can see Weavile's base special attack stat being between 80-90, but I cannot see a big jump like with Slowpoke. It seems that Dark types in general seem to have low special attack, so as I said, I cannot see a big jump.

Teehee
9th July 2006, 11:27 PM
You forgot about Houndour/Houndoom, which I think is the Dark type with the best special ATM. It also gets Crunch, the highest STAB Dark move.

Eszett
9th July 2006, 11:34 PM
Actually Cacturne has the highest Special Attack for a Dark type at 115.

Vycksta, I have no reason to diss the type combo - I freakin' love it. However, I'm upset that Sneasel can't actually use its type combo to its advantage - it would have done much better as a Ghost/Fighting type or something from which it could actually receive STAB for its attacks. That might sully the whole sharp claw deal, though...

Also, keep in mind that the later Dark types are getting better Special Attacks. Before only Houndoom and Tyranitar had something that was 90 or above; now look at Crawdaunt, Shiftry, Sharpedo, and Cacturne. If this indicates anything, we should be seeing some more Dark types that can do some ample special sweeping in this next generation. I hope Manyula is one of them.

Vycksta
10th July 2006, 12:36 AM
Vycksta, I have no reason to diss the type combo - I freakin' love it. However, I'm upset that Sneasel can't actually use its type combo to its advantage - it would have done much better as a Ghost/Fighting type or something from which it could actually receive STAB for its attacks. That might sully the whole sharp claw deal, though...

Also, keep in mind that the later Dark types are getting better Special Attacks. Before only Houndoom and Tyranitar had something that was 90 or above; now look at Crawdaunt, Shiftry, Sharpedo, and Cacturne. If this indicates anything, we should be seeing some more Dark types that can do some ample special sweeping in this next generation. I hope Manyula is one of them.Alas, Sneasel is based on the Kamaitachi, getting its Dark typing from the Kamaitachi's general evil nature/the fact that they hunt at night and its Ice typing from the Kamaitachi's liking to living in cold places. As one who loves Japanese myths and legends I cannot fault with it. However you try explaining that so some perople on here...

I'm still sticking by Sneasel/Weavile doing a Scyther/Scizor and getting some stat swaps. I can see Weavile losing some speed to boost its special attack. It's hard to judge that on looks alone, but I get that vibe. A vibe that it will gain defence and special attack power. :/

I truly don't believe that Weavile will be screwed on special attack, but nor do I see this huge leap in it either. I can cope if it's base 80.

Eszett
10th July 2006, 1:08 AM
Well, if the movies are indicative of anything - I don't know if they are - it certainly seems that Manyula has a fair bit more strength in launching special attacks than does its unevolved counterpart. Watching all that Blizzard action makes me wonder if it will actually be able to pull off such a feat and be damaging with it in the games. Then again, I wouldn't use Blizzard on anything since Ice Beam is better. ;)

Either way, if Manyula gets a high enough Attack stat - and I'm talking around the order of 120 - I might just be able to cope with it being a physical sweeper. It really needs all the attack power it can get to offset its lack of any useful STAB - but of course, the ideal situation would be for it to focus on some special sweeping. With this goal in mind, as long as it gets some ample Special Attack, Crunch, and still remains pretty speedy, I'll be more than happy with Gamefreak.

Soquid Fpoon
10th July 2006, 6:02 PM
Finally a pic to prove
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3667/untitled15vg.png (http://imageshack.us)
This is one of the mysterious POkemon in the Pokemon Trio.
It has to jewels like Snesal and has other stuff that matches Sneasal and Weaville.
It also a normal type so it's not black.

Thier Proof!

Vycksta
10th July 2006, 6:49 PM
Finally a pic to prove
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3667/untitled15vg.png (http://imageshack.us)
This is one of the mysterious POkemon in the Pokemon Trio.
It has to jewels like Snesal and has other stuff that matches Sneasal and Weaville.
It also a normal type so it's not black.

Thier Proof!That looks more fox like then weasel like. I'm still not convinced unless Game Freak say so.

@ Eszett: Well if we are going to go by Weavile's movie appearence then you could be right, as Sneasel in the anime has never done a special attack (( Well, not from what I have seen, Harrison's did Quick Attack, Agility and Slash. )). However Weavile did use Shadow Ball if i'm right, which could indicate a mixed sweeper. What are your views if Weavile turns out to be a mixed sweeper?

Soquid Fpoon
10th July 2006, 7:14 PM
This is not a perfect picture, just a guess of what it looks like so so of the detail would be wrong. The jewels are perfectly placed like the ones on Sneasals.

Vycksta
10th July 2006, 7:25 PM
Well put it this way. Sneasel is based on the Kamaitachi which translated is the "sickle weasel". If they give Sneasel a pre-evo then fine... but if they give Sneasel a pre-evo that looks like a FOX when it's nothing like a fox in looks, personality or the Japanese legend its based on then they'll have me to answer to. Seriously.

Naga
11th July 2006, 2:39 AM
How does Fanart Prove Something?

Eszett
11th July 2006, 3:53 AM
Guy, Sneasel's too cool to be related to that thing. :p

Vycksta, I could certainly cope with Manyula being a mixed sweeper...granted that Attack stat would be better in something else like Speed or more Special Attack, but as long as it can hurt stuff with its Ice Beams and whatnot I'll be plenty satisfied. Ideally, though, I would like a focus on making it a special sweeper.

Vycksta
12th July 2006, 12:45 AM
I think i'm leaning towards the idea of mixed sweeper Weavile, with Ice Beam and Shadow Ball to smack everyone down. Even if you won't get STAB with Shadow Ball, you do get the occasional Special Defence loss. Enter Ice Beam? (:

Plus before natures came into play, I was a fan of mixed sweepers. So yeah, I guess there is a slight bias there...

Eszett
12th July 2006, 1:27 AM
I want Crunch most of all. :(

But still, it could make a good mixed sweeper, though I would like for it to have a decent Defense stat if that's the route it's going. Calm Mind can cover its Special Defense, but Swords Dance can't.

AJ Flibble
12th July 2006, 1:52 AM
Meh, it's possible. Weavile looks more bulky and slow than Sneasel. I predict a Speed loss or it stays the same. I doubt it'll get faster IMO. Looking at the first scan, the L32 one had about 92 HP, so it's got fairly decent HP unlike Sneasel.

darksteelix
12th July 2006, 3:14 AM
Finally a pic to prove
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3667/untitled15vg.png (http://imageshack.us)
This is one of the mysterious POkemon in the Pokemon Trio.
It has to jewels like Snesal and has other stuff that matches Sneasal and Weaville.
It also a normal type so it's not black.

Thier Proof!
how does that prove anything
first off it has a bushy tail in stead of feathers and i highly doubt they would make it with 2 ear feathers before sneasel just to give one back as weavile
and besides that denotes the sharp claw type their is nothing sneasle esque about it in other words that lie was pathetic

Superior Master Lucario
12th July 2006, 4:20 AM
Probably not since Sneasil is bad enough to have an evolution, but good enough to not suck too tereblly.

Vycksta
12th July 2006, 7:29 PM
how does that prove anything
first off it has a bushy tail in stead of feathers and i highly doubt they would make it with 2 ear feathers before sneasel just to give one back as weavile
and besides that denotes the sharp claw type their is nothing Sneasel esque about it in other words that lie was pathetic


Probably not since Sneasel is bad enough to have an evolution, but good enough to not suck too tereblly.It's not Sneasle and it is not Sneasil, it is Sneasel. Why do so many people find this so bleeding hard to SPELL? *goes in fit and bashes typo makers with dictionary*

So looking by Eszett's sig it seems that Weavile has suffered the same fate as Sneasel and that's crap special attack. There goes my dream of mixed sweeper Weavile and Eszett's of special sweeping Weavile. Yet it looks like it has a great physical attack AND a good jump in HP, so I will still raise a few of them. I coped with Sneasel and always will so Weavile will be no different. People generally play for power, I play with my favourites. Heh, expect my Pearl team in time to be five Sneasels and a Weavile. ;D

Eszett
12th July 2006, 10:01 PM
Why do I even bother wishing for stuff that is seemingly so absurd at times? Apparently those coots at Gamefreak just can't get it. :rolleyes:

The thing still looks cool though, so I might just use it.

AJ Flibble
12th July 2006, 10:27 PM
Sometimes GF are idiots aren't they...?

Other than that, there are bound to be Pokemon with backwards stats. lol Sneasel, Weavile, Ledian, most other Bugs, Mantine, the list goes on. Meh, shame. However, I wasn't overly bothered anyway and TBH I expected this.

CharizardMaster
12th July 2006, 10:33 PM
IMO, that looks nothing like sneasal... I hope there isn't a pre evo but its up to nintendo, I doubt it though.

Vycksta
12th July 2006, 11:24 PM
The more I see that picture of "Sneasel's pre-evo" the more I think of a Flareon/Genie hybrid...

Jimmy P.
13th July 2006, 2:14 PM
The mystery is solved. The real image of that so-called Sneasel preevo turns out to be a grass type. Who knew? Pokemon Zeo and Soquid Fpoon sure didn't.

Vycksta
13th July 2006, 7:12 PM
The mystery is solved. The real image of that so-called Sneasel preevo turns out to be a grass type. Who knew? Pokemon Zeo and Soquid Fpoon sure didn't.Amen to that.

mewfan1
26th July 2006, 10:27 PM
Finally a pic to prove
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3667/untitled15vg.png (http://imageshack.us)
This is one of the mysterious POkemon in the Pokemon Trio.
It has to jewels like Snesal and has other stuff that matches Sneasal and Weaville.
It also a normal type so it's not black.

Thier Proof!

Whoa. I would flip if Sneasel evolved from that. For one thing, sneasel only has one feather thing sticking out of his head. It would no make sense of him going from two feathers on his head to one (sneasel), and then back to two(weavile). Sure, it has the jewels, but bonsly has a jewel on his head and he doesn't evolve into sneasel!

Shining Mew
27th July 2006, 4:20 PM
wow why was this thread in the path to d/p forum...


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