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Crazy_Crazy_Totdile
13th July 2006, 11:12 PM
I love all of them, personally, but most of the stuff I read is SJ or ACTION...

By the way, I'm looking for a new manga to start purchasing, any recommendations?

Peace, yo's. Peace.

Rex Kamex
13th July 2006, 11:34 PM
I'd prefer Shonen Jump, but that's mainly because of the magazine. (In fact, that's all because of the magazine.) As for reccomendations...

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=91556

Korobooshi Kojiro
14th July 2006, 12:24 AM
Viz is good, and Viz action I really haven't read much of.

Tokyopop is a little weird though. Sgt Frog for example is excellent (despite changing Kururu to Kululu after over 7 volumes) but they are too expensive though. And besides Sgt Frog, I really don't like any of their other mangas.

Goth_Guy
15th July 2006, 3:58 AM
I do not pic favorites of manga, I just cant do that, I love all manga equaly, but I do pic favorites in titles, but just cause I like a certain title that does not mean I like the company that it comes from.

HK
15th July 2006, 4:12 AM
What, no Viz's Signature Line/Editor's Choice? No Dark Horse? No Del Ray?

This thread phails.

(If I was held at gunpoint, I would probably choose Viz Action.)

Kimori
15th July 2006, 4:32 AM
Well, out of the three of them my favorite is probably Viz Shonen Jump. I love Naruto, One Piece and Yu-Gi-Oh. I really don't read much Tokyopop or Viz action. =/

Kitsune
15th July 2006, 4:36 AM
I prefer Tokyopop. Actually, I believe that all of my manga are from Tokyopop...

MegaRob
15th July 2006, 5:08 AM
The only Viz stuff I read is the Shonen Jump stuff. Most of the manga's I've read are from TokyoPop. Granted this isn't because I once worked there, lol. :p

Satoshi
15th July 2006, 5:08 AM
Out of those, I'd go for Shounen Jump (Though Shounen Ace (JP) automatically beats it as a magazine just for having Neon Genesis Evangelion and Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu serialized in it :P). Not out of all of those, I'd go for Del Ray.

HK
15th July 2006, 5:22 AM
Out of those, I'd go for Shounen Jump (Though Shounen Ace (JP) automatically beats it as a magazine just for having Neon Genesis Evangelion and Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu serialized in it :P). Not out of all of those, I'd go for Del Ray.

The manga series for those phail compared to the anime, and the manga adaption of Evangelion is evil for characterization. I consider the anime Neon Genesis Evangelion/Neon Genesis Evangelion: The End of Evangelion as a whole to be a flawed masterpiece and the anime The Melacholy of Haruhi Suzumiya to be the most enjoyable anime that is so damn accessible (in meaning almost anyone can watch it and like it).

But that's just my opinion, so don't mind me. ;D

You brought up an interesting point on Japanese publishers, though. I suppose I'll go with either Young Animal (Berserk), Young King Ours (Trigun Maximum, Hellsing, and even the new series World Embryo seems to be enjoyable) or else Big Spirit Comics (20th Century Boys, Monster, Pluto, Homunculus, and a few that I'm probably missing...); come to think of it, probably Big Spirit Comics.

Cutiebunny
15th July 2006, 5:28 AM
I prefer Del Rey manga translations, especially since they have the US rights to my favorite series now, "XXXholic".

AkariKanzaki
17th July 2006, 2:12 AM
Where's Viz Shojo/Shojo Beat? That's mostly what I read.

*~Espeon~*
18th July 2006, 6:59 PM
I like Viz Shonen Jump. But I like more Angel Dust and Ultra Maniac.

Jemi Rose
19th July 2006, 7:11 PM
I would prefer Tokyopop, because has a variety of manga books with different genres in each of them. And it's true that they are expensive, but still...Anyways, I think Tokyopop has some awesome books.

Viz, a little bit, but not much, I know that the prices are low, but there is just something that I like in some of the manga books that I don't find in the SHonen jump.

mew_psychic_gatto
20th July 2006, 8:13 AM
Shonen Jump

Torchic23
20th July 2006, 8:18 AM
Well Viz is always a favorite, but I don't really care that much, as long as the manga is good ^^

Sheik
21st July 2006, 5:03 AM
I like both Tokyopop, viz and shonen jump.
I like pretty much most of the manga companys too bad the company that's doing Bow wow wata is kinda not doing manga right now due to sales or something I forgot. =\

akane_rose
21st July 2006, 5:27 AM
rose: I like Tokyopop the most and shonen jump. both are really good!! plus, some of Tokyopop's aren't that expensive. save me a bundle when I bought the Kingdom Hearts mangas!! *hugs mangas* love them!! viz shonen jump, because of it being a magazine and holding a lot of mangas in it!!! :p

WheelerTheViper
22nd August 2006, 5:43 AM
Nobody has said Shonen Jump advanced?

Seriously. Buso Renkin, Death Note, Bobobo, D.Grey man. All great titles!

Viz/Shonen jump comes in second (Even though it's basicly the same as Advanced), With Yugioh, Ruroni Kenshin, ect.

I don't have any Del Rey titles, but they seem to have some pretty good stuff. Negima, Tsubabsa and xxxHolic stand out. (But my, Negima is a bit more pervy in the manga o.o )

Tokyopop is just....blah. I only own/am interested in Kingdom Hearts. Nothing else is worth buying to me. The titles are just boring.

ADV's Azumanga Daioh and Yotsuba&! are nice...

But in short, I like Viz's stuff the best.

BattleFranky~40
22nd August 2006, 5:49 AM
Tokyopop is horrible.

If they ever get their hands on the Haruhi novels, they better not have it translated with the help of "talented comic writers"

So Viz wins by default.

Catalyst
22nd August 2006, 5:53 AM
Tokyopop is horrible.


The fawk? They gave us the BR manga, they at least get points. =|

BattleFranky~40
22nd August 2006, 6:05 AM
The fawk? They gave us the BR manga, they at least get points. =|
Meh.

Also, I forgot they also gave us GTO.

That Scary Clefairy
22nd August 2006, 11:22 PM
TP isn't that bad. Yes they do have soem screw up on translations and one series is screw up(Initial D) but that doesn't mean the entire company suck.

For me, I love Dark Horse the best. Provide top notch translation, paper quality, authentic-ness etc. underated but excellent.

zonic the hedgehog
23rd August 2006, 1:56 AM
I only like Tokyopop for Keroro Gunso. :\

Other than that, everything else isn't appealing to me.

I'm a fan of Dark Horse though, since they release stuff that's a bit less mainstream and therefore harder to get on the internet if you know what I mean. :F

Shonen Jump... not really. I do have the first few volumes of the monthly books, but that's about it.

Hmm, I've just thought of a question- is CMX any good?

I've seen some of their stuff in the bookstore, but I'm avoiding it until someone assures me that I won't be wasting my money on crap.

BattleFranky~40
23rd August 2006, 1:58 AM
Now that I think about it, horrible was a bad word to use. Mediocre probably describes TP best.

That Scary Clefairy
23rd August 2006, 2:46 AM
I only like Tokyopop for Keroro Gunso. :\

Other than that, everything else isn't appealing to me.

I'm a fan of Dark Horse though, since they release stuff that's a bit less mainstream and therefore harder to get on the internet if you know what I mean. :F

Shonen Jump... not really. I do have the first few volumes of the monthly books, but that's about it.

Hmm, I've just thought of a question- is CMX any good?

I've seen some of their stuff in the bookstore, but I'm avoiding it until someone assures me that I won't be wasting my money on crap.



Some of CMX titles are good except one: Tenjo Tenge. They kinda "raped" that one. But don't let one failed title of theirs lead you off. I got Kamikaze Jeanne Kaitou and Cipher from them and so far both seems really good. I really like Cipher for Nostaglia feel of 80's/90's NYC. Plus I live near there.

WheelerTheViper
23rd August 2006, 5:34 AM
Some of CMX titles are good except one: Tenjo Tenge. They kinda "raped" that one.

Isn't that an ironic sentance XD

Tenjo Tenge was ok, I have the first volume but didn't really like it, edits or no. The thing that bugged me about it, and I don't know of CMX has fixed this, or if it was just a Tenjo Tenge thing, but you practicly had to rip the book open to read some of the text, since the pictures went to the very end of the page. That bugged me to no end.

Cutiebunny
23rd August 2006, 5:49 AM
I prefer DelRey for my manga. I think they do the best job in terms of keeping the actual flavor and not eradicating the Japanese artwork to put some sound effect word.

Yeah! Another Keroro fan....I love the little guy...especially Giroro.

Vycksta
23rd August 2006, 12:21 PM
Tokyopop and Viz Shojo. The majority of my manga collection is Tokyopop and Viz Shojo = Alice 19th, my favourite manga.

Juputoru
23rd August 2006, 2:53 PM
Eh, pretty much everything other than Viz SJ. I actually like the SJ titles, but there's no point in getting their manga novels when you have the chapters they contain in the magazine, and at a much bigger size at that. And since you specified the manga novels, not the magazine...

Viz Action has my beloved Detective Conan(er, Case Closed) along with other things, SJ Advanced has a bunch of titles I'd love to read if only I had the money to get into them, and Tokyopop has a few odds and ends I like such as Furuba, .hack//LoTB, and Cardcaptor Sakura.

That Scary Clefairy
23rd August 2006, 6:47 PM
Isn't that an ironic sentance XD

Tenjo Tenge was ok, I have the first volume but didn't really like it, edits or no. The thing that bugged me about it, and I don't know of CMX has fixed this, or if it was just a Tenjo Tenge thing, but you practicly had to rip the book open to read some of the text, since the pictures went to the very end of the page. That bugged me to no end.

that must be a CMX problem cause in the original japanese ones that I have, that isn't a problem.

HK
23rd August 2006, 10:08 PM
Nobody has said Shonen Jump advanced?

Seriously. Buso Renkin, Death Note, Bobobo, D.Grey man. All great titles!

Buso Renkin gets attention just because the manga-ka is the one behind Rurouni Kenshin, and the former is seriously lackluster (not to mention Kenshin had a weak ending). Death Note was absolutely amazing for a manga period in its first few volumes, but it went downhill in part two and had an awful ending. Bo^7 just has one volume out and apparently that is all that Viz is going to put out, plus it's not my cup of tea (I like humor, but...). Finally D.Gray-man is solid but it's only being released every three months.

I'm surprised that you didn't mention Claymore, considering that is a very good action series that seems to pick up towards the end of volume three. I would also include Hunter X Hunter, but it suffers from too many issues.


The fawk? They gave us the BR manga, they at least get points. =|

But Keith Griffen f*cked-up Battle Royale is in atroticious adaption, so take away those points. :/

I enjoy some of Tokyopop's material, but most of their stuff I'm just not interested in. Give me more material like Planetes from them anyday, not generic crap.

Dark Horse still beats 'em all out, with Viz's Signature/Editor's Choice line coming in second.

WheelerTheViper
24th August 2006, 5:35 AM
Buso Renkin gets attention just because the manga-ka is the one behind Rurouni Kenshin, and the former is seriously lackluster (not to mention Kenshin had a weak ending). Death Note was absolutely amazing for a manga period in its first few volumes, but it went downhill in part two and had an awful ending. Bo^7 just has one volume out and apparently that is all that Viz is going to put out, plus it's not my cup of tea (I like humor, but...). Finally D.Gray-man is solid but it's only being released every three months.

I'm surprised that you didn't mention Claymore, considering that is a very good action series that seems to pick up towards the end of volume three. I would also include Hunter X Hunter, but it suffers from too many issues.

Er, why are you bashing my favorite titles?.......It fine if we have our opinions, but can you please voice yours without dissing mine? ^^;

Or maybe that's just how I interpreted it.

Anywho, the preview in SJ aside, I have not read any of Claymore or Hunter X Hunter. Neither of them look that interesting to me, but I want to at least read Claymore a bit (After I'm done with Negima vol.2, of course).

BattleFranky~40
24th August 2006, 5:42 AM
Buso Renkin gets attention just because the manga-ka is the one behind Rurouni Kenshin, and the former is seriously lackluster (not to mention Kenshin had a weak ending). Death Note was absolutely amazing for a manga period in its first few volumes, but it went downhill in part two and had an awful ending. Bo^7 just has one volume out and apparently that is all that Viz is going to put out, plus it's not my cup of tea (I like humor, but...). Finally D.Gray-man is solid but it's only being released every three months.

I'm surprised that you didn't mention Claymore, considering that is a very good action series that seems to pick up towards the end of volume three. I would also include Hunter X Hunter, but it suffers from too many issues.


I don't see the problem with Kenshin's ending, really, and BusoRen isn't that bad, and definatly deserved to continue. I agree with you on Death Note, and that any volume after 7 or so should be burned. And Bo^7 isn't great, but definatly isn't bad, and if you enjoy random manga references, you'd probably like it.

And yes, Hunter x Hunter really went downhill during the Chimera Ant arc, but the York Shin and Greed Island arcs make up for it as two of the best Shounen arcs ever.

HK
24th August 2006, 10:15 PM
Er, why are you bashing my favorite titles?.......It fine if we have our opinions, but can you please voice yours without dissing mine? ^^;

I don't see how I was "bashing" anything as I was just stating some points about the series. The worst that I said was that Buso Renkin was lackluster and both Rurouni Kenshin and Death Note had badly done endings.


Or maybe that's just how I interpreted it.

Read just a bit more carefully next time, then.


Anywho, the preview in SJ aside, I have not read any of Claymore or Hunter X Hunter. Neither of them look that interesting to me, but I want to at least read Claymore a bit (After I'm done with Negima vol.2, of course).

Which is a bit funny considering that they're two shounen series that actually get the "action scenes" done right. Claymore goes for outright fights with nothing other than little-to-no dialogue in its battles, and Hunter X Hunter actually has a sense of logic to it that so many other shounen series utterly lack.


I don't see the problem with Kenshin's ending, really,

The final few volumes just became way too clichéd for my tastes, and any sense of potential "danger" that the series had vanished after a certain scene, if you know what I'm referring to. The flashback was incredible (and by incredible I mean even for a manga), but it just eventually became flat. Hell, even Watsuki admits to being restricted and not doing what he truly would've wanted to do.


and BusoRen isn't that bad, and definatly deserved to continue.

It's solid from what little I've checked out, but it's lacking in so many things that I wouldn't give it an solid recommendation to anyone.


I agree with you on Death Note, and that any volume after 7 or so should be burned.

"Justice will prevail!"

Oh Lawd, I was so disappointed with how Part 2, particuarly the ending, was handled. If it had ended during the middle of volume seven, that would've been an absolute perfect ending. We would've finally gotten a shounen series that doesn't conform to the "Shounen Trap" (copyright David "HellKorn" Goodwin 2006) and leaves with very memorable final chapters... but no, we get a bullsh*t ending at the end with...

Light dying because Obata had to make his and Near's plans to be absolutely idiotic and out of character, especially the former. Chapter one hundred seven was sort of fitting and got me to like Ryuk's character again, but that still didn't save it from how how moronic it was.


And Bo^7 isn't great, but definatly isn't bad, and if you enjoy random manga references, you'd probably like it.

Like I said, it just isn't my cup of tea.


And yes, Hunter x Hunter really went downhill during the Chimera Ant arc, but the York Shin and Greed Island arcs make up for it as two of the best Shounen arcs ever.

The Greed Island arc would've been good had we not gotten so many damn lengthy and tedious explanations so often, not to mention the elements of card being rather boring and uninspired. I will agree to the York Shin arc to being brilliantly done -- it was there that I realized why so many fans who don't stoop down to mainstream shounen series proclaim Hunter X Hunter to be one of the greatest shounen series out there. It's a shame that it couldn't have stayed at that level.

So, in review, the Shonen Jump Advanced line is worth looking into, though only for a few sparse titles.

BattleFranky~40
24th August 2006, 11:03 PM
Yes, Part 2 was mehtastic. I mean, when you've seen fan-made manga pages that offer up a better ending to the series than the actual ending, you know there's something wrong.

And yes, the Greed arc has a ton of explanations in it, but then again, so does HxH in general, and one of the reasons that I like it is that it actually has explanation to the things going on within it, a reason why Nen is one of my favorite systems of power in manga.

Skiks
25th August 2006, 12:25 AM
Right now I'll go with Shonen Jump Advanced/Shonen Jump. Since I read that more. I'll eventually get into things like Hellsing and Trigun. Since I still don't have enough cash for anymore manga series at the moment. I'd rather read it in it's physical form since it seems translators seem to have done a good job on them. Tokyo pop also intrests me since it has Getbackers. It's a good series but I've only read up to volume 10.
As for HXH people usually hated each arc such as Greed Island and York Shin then loved it once they saw there finale. I'll wait till it finishes to judge it. If it ever does. Damn Cliffhanger. =/
This is just me being intrested on what kind of an ability the Chairman has. It has to be amazing for him to have such a position.

BattleFranky~40
25th August 2006, 12:27 AM
Right now I'll go with Shonen Jump Advanced/Shonen Jump. Since I read that more. I'll eventually get into things like Hellsing and Trigun. Since I still don't have enough cash for anymore manga series at the moment. I'd rather read it in it's physical form since it seems translators seem to have done a good job on them. Tokyo pop also intrests me since it has Getbackers. It's a good series but I've only read up to volume 10.
As for HXH people usually hated each arc such as Greed Island and York Shin then loved it once they saw there finale. I'll wait till it finishes to judge it. If it ever does. Damn Cliffhanger. =/
How could you hate York Shin?

Skiks
25th August 2006, 12:35 AM
How could you hate York Shin?
I didn't This was way back then. Course I didn't get into hxh till like they were at the Chimera Arc. I heard people hated it back then.

BattleFranky~40
25th August 2006, 12:43 AM
I didn't This was way back then. Course I didn't get into hxh till like they were at the Chimera Arc. I heard people hated it back then.

It was alright in the beginning, then got good at the Hunter Exam, got awesome at York Shin, stayed awesome during Greed Island, and then plummeted during the Chimera Ant arc when Togashi forgot how to draw.

The Mad Manga Massacre
29th August 2006, 4:05 AM
Honestly, both the same! By the way, why isn't there a section here for Chuang Yi?

dabou
4th October 2006, 1:31 PM
I think Shonen Jump is probably the best of all, k?

Chris
4th October 2006, 1:45 PM
Good job bumping a month old topic.