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Arahabaki
3rd September 2006, 6:48 PM
Rayquaza lv100 w/leftoers
timid nature
extremespeed
outrage
thunderbolt
overheat

blaziken lv87 w/charcoal
bold nature
overheat
sky uppercut
flamethrower
fireblast

blastoise lv 79 w/ mystic water
docile nature
hydro cannon
hydro pump
surf
ice beam

sceptile lv 64 w/miracle seed
bold nature
dragon claw
giga drain
leafblade
earthquake

mewtwo lv 72w/amulet coin
quiet nature
psychic
shadow ball
swift
recover

umbreon lv 57
quick attack
dig
bite
shadow ball

Shadow Tyranitar
3rd September 2006, 7:00 PM
Rayquaza lv100 w/leftovers
timid nature
extremespeed
outrage
thunderbolt
overheat

blaziken lv87 w/charcoallefties
bold nature
overheatrockslide
sky uppercut
flamethrower
fireblastmirror move

blastoise lv 79 w/ mystic waterlefties or brightpowder
docile nature
hydro cannonprotect
hydro pumpskull bash
surf
ice beam

sceptile lv 64 w/miracle seedor lefties
bold nature
dragon claw
giga drainleech seed,eg move
leafblade/aa
earthquake

mewtwo lv 72w/amulet coinlefties
quiet nature
psychic
shadow ball
swiftthunderbolt
recover

umbreon lv 57lefties
quick attacksunny day,4 moonlight,makes no sense huh?
digmoonlight
bitepsychic
shadow balltoxic,maybe

sorry i'm not the best with natures
why so many lefties?because its great and helps keep you from fainting,but the lefties can backfire in a battle with a pokemon that uses leech seed.

howdodo
4th September 2006, 3:19 AM
rayquaza@lefties
adamant
-extremespeed/rock slide
-DD
-EQ
-AA

blaziken@lefties/white herb
adamant
-sky uppercut
-flamethrower/overheat
-rock slide
-swords dance

blastoise@lefties
calm
-mirror coat
-rest
-surf
-ice beam

sceptile@lefties
modest
-leaf blade
-t punch
-leech seed/crunch
-sub/HP [fire,ice]/d claw

mewtwo@lefties
modest
-psychic
-calm mind
-ice beam
-t bolt

umbreon@lefties
impish
-toxic
-protect
-wish
-baton pass

Arahabaki
4th September 2006, 4:26 PM
rayquaza@lefties
adamant
-extremespeed/rock slide
-DD i dont know what these mean
-EQ
-AA

blaziken@lefties/white herb
adamant
-sky uppercut
-flamethrower/overheat
-rock slide
-swords dance

blastoise@lefties
calm
-mirror coat
-rest
-surf
-ice beam

sceptile@lefties
modest
-leaf blade
-t punch what?
-leech seed/crunch
-sub/HP [fire,ice]/d claw ?

mewtwo@lefties
modest
-psychic
-calm mind
-ice beam
-t bolt

umbreon@lefties
impish
-toxic
-protect
-wish
-baton pass

i didnt understand some of that, and i like my umbreon

howdodo
4th September 2006, 4:48 PM
DD=dragon dance
EQ-earthquake
AA=aerial ace
t punch=thunderpunch
sub=substitute
HP=hidden power then type of it
d claw=dragon claw

and ur umbreon isnt that good as it is now

Arahabaki
8th September 2006, 3:52 AM
DD=dragon dance
EQ-earthquake
AA=aerial ace
t punch=thunderpunch
sub=substitute
HP=hidden power then type of it
d claw=dragon claw

and ur umbreon isnt that good as it is now

well...my umbreons pimped

PatTar
8th September 2006, 4:14 AM
your umbreon now sucks. umbreon is NOT meant to have any real damaging attacks. that's why it's defenses are so high. it's meant to be a TANK.

SwordofAeons
8th September 2006, 5:25 AM
Lol @ Pimped Umbreon.

Shadow Tyranitar
8th September 2006, 6:17 AM
Your umbreon is not ''pimped''.He can have something like this:

Umbreon@leftovers
bold or calm nature

toxic
moonlight/wish(moonlight gives you the hp immediately,so I would choose it)
attract/double-team
confuse ray

........with this moveset watch out for any steel types;you can toxic them.

SwordofAeons
8th September 2006, 6:49 AM
Umbreon-Leftovers
Bold Nature
-Moonlight
-Sub
-Toxic
-Baton Pass

Shadow Tyranitar
8th September 2006, 7:01 AM
why baton pass?what is being passed on?the toxic?

K-os
8th September 2006, 8:29 AM
If he does not want to rebreed, he should keep his umbreon. it annoys me when people have a lvl 100 pokemon, and others say it should have a different nature. In all your team is fine.

~K-os~;249-d;

blaziken05
8th September 2006, 3:06 PM
Oh goodie...I get to explain why Hydro Cannon sucks. Joy! (That's sarcasm, in case anyone was wondering)

Hydro Cannon's power of 2 turns: 225
Surf's power over 2 turns: 285

Umbreon@Leftovers
+Def, -Speed
-Baton Pass
-Wish
-Toxic
-Curse/Protect/Substitute

IMO, wish-passing is fun. Wish+Protect is a pseudo recover, Wish+Baton Pass heals an ally without letting the ally be hit. Your current Umbreon can't do much to anything and lacks the ability to heal damage.

Multiple damaging moves of the same type on a Pokemon in general suck.

Shadow Tyranitar
8th September 2006, 7:49 PM
woah,there jethro,surf doesn't have a power of 285 after 2 turns,and hydro cannon doesn't have a power 225 after 2 turns.more like surf 2 turns=190,hydro cannon 2 turns=150..........................

blaziken05
8th September 2006, 10:28 PM
This is Blastoise, so it gets STAB.

Arahabaki
9th September 2006, 4:52 AM
my umbreon does not suck!]
if any eeveelution sucks its espeon!
[bleep] you space travellers who think my umbreon sucks!
and in case anyone noticed hardly any pokemon have moves that dont do damage

howdodo
9th September 2006, 4:54 AM
get over it your umbreon is horrible not only that espeon is not the worst its actually flareon, jolteon is decent but flareon is very replaceable

Arahabaki
9th September 2006, 5:01 AM
get over it your umbreon is horrible not only that espeon is not the worst its actually flareon, jolteon is decent but flareon is very replaceable

flareon is way better than espeon.and i thought this was an in-game team rate,not hate on my umbreon thread
coughs/espeon sucks/coughs

blaziken05
9th September 2006, 5:10 AM
Espeon is a special tank/baton passer. It's not supposed to be offensive much.

Honestly, you'd do more damage with toxic each turn, unless you absolutely neglect HP and defenses. Which then defies the point of using Umbreon in the first place. So why not build a stalling set around toxic if you want to use Umbreon? Dig is an EQ invite too, btw.

Crimson trainer
9th September 2006, 7:54 PM
I would also like my Fire Red team rated I dont care about natures and stats

;123;lvl:55:Ariel ace,sword dance,slash,????
;351;lvl:53:weater ball,hail,raindance,sunny day
;006;lvl:55:dragon claw,heat wave,steel wing,fly
;186;lvl:50:water pulse,surf,body slam,doubleslap
;376;lvl:54:meteor mash,metal claw,takedown,calm mind
;133;lvl:50:takedown,quick attack,helping hand,attract

firewater
9th September 2006, 8:10 PM
crimson trainer get your own thread, but umbreon should be defensive,tha offensive

Arahabaki
10th September 2006, 5:03 AM
I would also like my Fire Red team rated I dont care about natures and stats

;123;lvl:55:Ariel ace,sword dance,slash,????
;351;lvl:53:weater ball,hail,raindance,sunny day
;006;lvl:55:dragon claw,heat wave,steel wing,fly
;186;lvl:50:water pulse,surf,body slam,doubleslap
;376;lvl:54:meteor mash,metal claw,takedown,calm mind
;133;lvl:50:takedown,quick attack,helping hand,attract

get off my thread

Arahabaki
29th September 2006, 4:28 AM
sice everyone doesnt like my umbreon(howdodo and mad mod),i took him out and got tyranitar lv. 75 lonely nature
flamethrower
earthquake
rockslide
outrage

PatTar
29th September 2006, 4:48 AM
hoorah bumped threads.

T-Tar @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Sp. Atk)
Trait: SandStream
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Dragon Dance
- T-Wave/Aerial Ace

aragornbird
29th September 2006, 6:03 AM
my umbreon does not suck!]
if any eeveelution sucks its espeon!
[bleep] you space travellers who think my umbreon sucks!
and in case anyone noticed hardly any pokemon have moves that dont do damage
I loled.

Lonely nature isn't that bad for a Tyranitar. If you don't want to rebreed:

Tyranitar @Choice Band
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Focus Punch
-Aerial Ace

eonteam123456
23rd October 2006, 6:58 AM
Train your Umbreon a little. Otherwise it will never beat my Venusaur - same goes for Sceptile, cause Moltres is too powerfull and is doubly effective against Sceptile. Moltres also knows Overheat.

Hey Micky!
24th October 2006, 12:53 AM
Train your Umbreon a little. Otherwise it will never beat my Venusaur - same goes for Sceptile, cause Moltres is too powerfull and is doubly effective against Sceptile. Moltres also knows Overheat.
Don't bump threads. Public Warning and Closed.

(And yes I know it hasn't been a month yet but this thread has been dead for nearly a month so it counts)