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Billy9
9th September 2006, 1:08 AM
The title says it all. Which do you think is better?

(Sorry if I put this in the wrong place, I didn't know where else to put it.)

Somebody
9th September 2006, 1:23 AM
Camerupt. Because exploding camels are awesome.

PumpedAaron
9th September 2006, 1:27 AM
Camerupt. It has less weaknesses, has one of the strongest signature fire moves. (Eruption) And can explode

howdodo
9th September 2006, 2:55 AM
torkoal can explode too people besides it doesnt have a bad dual-type and can learn curse, also eruption is horrible on these two pokes

PumpedAaron
9th September 2006, 3:09 AM
Torkoal does have a bad dual type.

Fire/Rock has a 4x weakness against Ground and Water

Flamethrower or Overheat can work inplace of eruption too. (just remember to use White Herb)

Somebody
9th September 2006, 3:12 AM
Torkoal isn't fire/rock. It's pure fire(though that's still a sucky typing).

howdodo
9th September 2006, 3:18 AM
how could u get that wrong? torkoal is way better then camerupt

Raito
9th September 2006, 3:52 AM
Cammy is better ingame since ingame is more atack based

theblackpearl719
9th September 2006, 3:56 AM
torkoal is stronger and better than camerupy by alot

ZNtelle
9th September 2006, 3:58 AM
Not necessarily dude. Torkoal only has 10 more in base stats than Camerupt.

Torkoal's more defensively oriented, Cammy offensively. Depends on what you wanna use. What I'd recommend is here:

Torkoal @ Leftovers
Relaxed (+Def, -Spd)
- Curse
- Overheat / Fire Blast / Flamethrower
- Body Slam / Sludge Bomb / Rock Slide / Explosion
- Body Slam / Sludge Bomb / Rock Slide / Explosion

Camerupt @ Choice Band
Brave (+Atk, -Spd)
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Overheat / Fire Blast
- Explosion

theblackpearl719
9th September 2006, 3:58 AM
my bad i ment camerumpt

ZNtelle
9th September 2006, 4:00 AM
InGame, yeah, it is. Hence Raito Light's point.

theblackpearl719
9th September 2006, 4:03 AM
what i ment was that i spelled camerumpt wrong i really like the pokemon torkoal much better than camerumpt because again he is stronger, better, and cooler

PumpedAaron
9th September 2006, 4:04 AM
Oh whoops, sorry about that. Torkoal is just a fire type.

Camerupt is the only one with a 4 times weakness to water then so that sucks.

PatTar
9th September 2006, 4:05 AM
not in-game.

see Raito Light's post.

EDIT: Torkoal IS NOT rock/fire. Magcargo is.

theblackpearl719
9th September 2006, 4:05 AM
torkoal could faint camerumpt easy but syther could take down torkoal with no promblem at all

ZNtelle
9th September 2006, 4:05 AM
Then the Serebii Pokedex is messed up. It's Fire and only Fire.

Somebody
9th September 2006, 4:07 AM
I don't know what you're talking about that the Serebii pokedex says it's fire/rock because I just checked it and it only said fire.

PatTar
9th September 2006, 4:08 AM
torkoal could faint camerumpt easy but syther could take down torkoal with no promblem at all

no it can't.

Camerupt used EQ!

it's Super Effective!

Torkoal's bout to get Pwned!

And Scyther Taking down torkoal? lol x2.

ZNtelle
9th September 2006, 4:11 AM
Scyther taking down Torkoal? Maybe when you pit a lv100 Scyther against a lv5 Torkoal. Never will that happen in real life.

theblackpearl719
9th September 2006, 5:57 AM
Syther iis the king i tell you the king

howdodo
9th September 2006, 6:03 AM
whats with you and thinking scyther can take down torkoal?

Bliksem
9th September 2006, 6:15 AM
Torkoal is generally a better Pokemon than Camerupt, but severely needs Will-O-Wisp. For its purpose, Camerupt is better suited than Torkoal is to its own. I'd go with Camerupt because its a far easier Pokemon to use and train. Earthquake and Rock Slide both come naturally, and it has a Fire-type STAB.

-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Overheat
-Explosion

That makes a very decent Camerupt, especially with the Choice Band.

ZNtelle
10th September 2006, 12:47 AM
whats with you and thinking scyther can take down torkoal?
The dude's obviously misguided. Thinking Scyther is king is enough. He's one of those Kanto-philes.

Pottsie
10th September 2006, 1:29 AM
I've used both of them and I prefer the latter. Not as weak to Water.

Shadow Tyranitar
10th September 2006, 2:17 AM
Scyther taking down Torkoal? Maybe when you pit a lv100 Scyther against a lv5 Torkoal. Never will that happen in real life.LOL @ scyther taking down a torkoal.Scyther is good,but there is no way in hell that would ever happen.Torkoal with rockslide>>>>25+ scythers..................Do you even know basic type trumping?!?!

mafia
10th September 2006, 2:57 AM
i like torkal better

Shadow Tyranitar
10th September 2006, 3:01 AM
oh yeah,i forgot to answer the question in my previous post,but torkoal is better.camerupt's defenses suck,I mean a caterpie with tackle could kill him in 1 hit!

PatTar
10th September 2006, 3:06 AM
^no it can't.

Camerupt is better IN-GAME. Plus, it's an exloding camel.

Exploding Camels >>>>>> Exploding Tortoises.

Magne-2000lbs.
10th September 2006, 3:38 AM
Camperupt, because it learns Eruption! and it can also learn EARTHQUAke, so that's 2 reasons

Kaim_Fabuyashi
10th September 2006, 3:40 AM
Torkoal,, camerupt is 4x effective against water and Torkoal can kill more with better speed. X3

ZNtelle
10th September 2006, 3:48 AM
LOL @ scyther taking down a torkoal.Scyther is good,but there is no way in hell that would ever happen.Torkoal with rockslide>>>>25+ scythers..................Do you even know basic type trumping?!?!
Wow, you're stupid. I wasn't even agreeing with the guy who was saying it could happen, I was disagreeing.

Torkoal is more likely to use a Fire move on Scyther anyways. Idiot.

Raito
10th September 2006, 4:19 AM
Torkoal,, camerupt is 4x effective against water and Torkoal can kill more with better speed. X3

lol

Paras has more speed than Torkoal. Cammy has better attacking stats and has better speed.

Poke'Blaze
10th September 2006, 4:31 AM
Torkaol rocks! Camerupt is like the worst fire pokemon IMO. Pick Torkoal if that pokemon suits you.

Souless_Heat
10th September 2006, 4:56 AM
Torkoal.

Why Camerupt Sucks:

-Camperupt is so slow, you will never really get to use Eruption to full power. And if they switch it's to a water type that can handle such a hit.

-Weak Defenses and low speed are not a good combination. It's 4x weakness to Water and weakness to Ground are a huge dent since both types can OHKO it simply.

-It's so slow you will explode way before you should. And against a good player they will see it coming.

Overall - Camerupt is raw power (much like Machamp), but very slow and very fragile.

-=-=-=-=-

Why Torkoal is better:

-Torkoal is slow, but one of the best Cursers with an allready high defense.

-Nothing will really OHKO it and 2/3 of it's weaknesses will do crap to it after 1-2 curses.

-White Smoke.

-=-=-=-=-

In-Game both suck really.

blaziken05
10th September 2006, 5:01 AM
^You shouldn't use Eruption on anything IMO

I don't really see it mattering ingame. Ingame you don't really need defenses, as you can just outlevel anything.

theblackpearl719
11th September 2006, 2:37 AM
Scyther is the greatest pokemon of all time!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I used him to beat Moltres,Zapdos,Articuno, Lugia, and dragonite in xd so i started calling him the king and he was lvl 48 against lvl 60s and 70s
The dude's obviously misguided. Thinking Scyther is king is enough. He's one of those Kanto-philes.and i am not a kanto philie

Frost Nova
11th September 2006, 2:51 AM
Then the AI must really suck.

Scyther gets pwned by a single Rock Slide. g ****ing g, end of discussion.

btw who said Torkoal can learn EQ though?

doom desire
11th September 2006, 3:15 AM
sexploding camels

forretressfan
11th September 2006, 4:44 AM
neither take marcargo *points to tc* marcargo has never let me down and my team had never lost

bigtisme
11th September 2006, 4:50 AM
Camerupt is usually better especially in game, and go with ZNtelle moveset.