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Xtra
9th September 2006, 2:18 AM
I have an Impish (+Def, -Sp.Att.) Eevee in XD, and trying to decide which stone/shard I should take. I wanted to avoid Espeon and Umbreon if possible (since I got my fill of those two in colloseum), but I will use them if they're the best one to use.

So which one should I pick?

howdodo
9th September 2006, 2:21 AM
out of the stone ones vaporeon, otherwise i think umbreon is the best

Pika Egg
9th September 2006, 2:25 AM
Given that nature, I'd say Umbreon since it likes the boosted Def. and doesn't mind the lowered Sp.Att....assuming you use one of its standard, non-attacking sets.

WhiteWizard42
9th September 2006, 2:27 AM
for an impish one, go with umbreon.

if you could change it to bold/calm/modest, vappy.

i'd say, if you're not too far, just SR for a better one.

ZNtelle
9th September 2006, 2:54 AM
Pretty much.

Jolteon's kinda cool if you can get Timid (+Spd, -Atk) or Modest (+SAtk, -Atk).

PatTar
9th September 2006, 3:00 AM
with impish, umbreon.

though it's kinda suckish in-game.

Xtra
9th September 2006, 3:02 AM
After a couple of restarts, I got a Mild (+Sp.Att.,-Def) nature, with high EV's in Attack, Sp. Def, and HP. I think it'll work as a Flareon with both Attack and Special moves...in the regular GBA game.

But because of the lack of TM's, I probably should keep trying.

ZNtelle
9th September 2006, 3:03 AM
Heavens, no. Flareon is better as a physical attacker and Mild just wouldn't suit it. If you want to keep Mild, go with Jolteon.

Xtra
9th September 2006, 3:14 AM
Heavens, no. Flareon is better as a physical attacker and Mild just wouldn't suit it. If you want to keep Mild, go with Jolteon.

I was thinking Flareon because of the high attack EV. buit it's a mute point now.

I just got a Bold, with at least 20 in everything but Special Defense (0-10) and Speed (10-20).

PatTar
9th September 2006, 3:16 AM
if bold, vaporeon or umbreon. vaporeon.

Vaporeon@Lefties
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
Trait: Water Absorb
-Surf
-Ice Beam/Toxic
-Protect
-Wish

my favorite vappy set.

Xtra
9th September 2006, 3:22 AM
I won't be able to get that set in XD, but I will go with Vaporeon. And with his high IV's, it'll be great for breeding as well.

blaziken05
9th September 2006, 3:46 AM
Stats don't help in breeding, only IVs.

Or if you change your mind:

Umbreon@Leftovers
Bold
-Wish
-Baton Pass
-Toxic
-Curse/Protect/Substitute

Xtra
9th September 2006, 4:38 AM
I was talking about it's IV's. 4 of the 6 IV's are 20 or over.

Shadow Tyranitar
9th September 2006, 4:49 AM
flareon-brave(doesn't screw with its sp atk or defenses,unlike adamant)
jolteon-modest
vaporeon-modest
espeon-modest
umbreon-bold or calm nature

howdodo
9th September 2006, 4:52 AM
actually:

Flareon=Adamant
Jolteon=Modest
Vaporeon=Bold
Espeon=Timid
Umbreon=Bold

i say espeons timid because it has calm mind on it already (at least it should)

blaziken05
9th September 2006, 5:01 AM
actually:

Flareon=Adamant
Jolteon=Modest
Vaporeon=Bold
Espeon=Timid
Umbreon=Bold

i say espeons timid because it has calm mind on it already (at least it should)

Espyjump can be calm if you want it as a special tank of sorts.

Arahabaki
9th September 2006, 5:03 AM
espeon sucks

howdodo
9th September 2006, 5:08 AM
no it doesnt its very good

Bliksem
9th September 2006, 5:11 AM
espeon sucks
Only if you try to use it like Alakazam or Gardevoir. It does its job quite nicely, actually.

Vaporeon: Bold
Jolteon: Timid/Modest
Flareon: Brave/Adamant
Espeon: Timid/Calm/Modest/Bold
Umbreon: Bold/Impish/Calm/Careful

Listed in terms of my preference

Xtra
9th September 2006, 5:35 PM
I went with Vaporeon. Here's the reasons why I rejected the others:

-Umbreon can take it, but has trouble dishing it out, thanks to low base Attack and Special Attack
-Jolteon won't work because of the speed IV having a good chance of being low.
-Flareon is an attacker, and Bold goes against that.
-Espeon, like Jolteon, is a special sweeper, and low speed IV's won't work.

blaziken05
9th September 2006, 7:36 PM
^Espeon's not a sweeper.

Shadow Tyranitar
9th September 2006, 7:47 PM
actually:

Flareon=Adamant
Jolteon=Modest
Vaporeon=Bold
Espeon=Timid
Umbreon=Bold

i say espeons timid because it has calm mind on it already (at least it should)
You're just copying that down for their best stat,it doesn't always need to be that way,because you can get a better pokemon by leveling off it weaknesses for just a little bit less of its best stat..............

ZNtelle
9th September 2006, 8:40 PM
Modest Jolteon? Pfft.

Anything works InGame. Xtra, I'm assuming you got a Bold one then?

Xtra
9th September 2006, 9:25 PM
Yep. A Bold Vaporeon that will make a great pokemon for breeding IV's

ZNtelle
9th September 2006, 9:29 PM
Ok.

And btw, IVs through breeding are only affected by stats. Natures don't affect IVs, either.

Xtra
9th September 2006, 9:50 PM
I'm aware of the fact nature doesn't affect IV's.

But according to the calculator, 4 of the 6 IV's for this Vaporeon are 20 or over. And when you breed, 3 IV's are randomly picked from the parents. So parents with good IV's makes it easier for the child to have good ones.

And it's stats that are affected by IV's, not the other way around.

howdodo
10th September 2006, 5:38 AM
no im not copying that down for their best stat.....