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MetalMario
20th October 2006, 5:28 AM
It's come to my attention that, even after the signature rules change, some members are still entitled to signatures longer than seven lines. I can tell this because I've seen their signatures change, both in text content and in the use of recent Diamond/Pearl artwork hosted on services such as Imageshack and *******, which don't permit file alteration.

The granting of these extra sig allowances seems arbitrary. I've seen (recent) large signatures from (non-moderator) members with fewer and more posts than myself, and from members with less than perfect histories at these forums. This seems blatantly unfair and I'd like an explanation. Thank you.

LugiaRules
20th October 2006, 5:34 AM
Don't you just hate that? I've seen it too, but I just edit it and move on with my life. Looks like you need to do the same.

Ninjit
20th October 2006, 5:35 AM
The seven-line thing isn't even a rule. Your signature should be around 400 pixels at most.
EDIT: 420, a bit under the maximum banner size.

MetalMario
20th October 2006, 5:37 AM
Yes, it is. Observe:

http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/MetalMario201/th_7lineshl.png (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/MetalMario201/7lineshl.png)

Edit: *sees 6es in your sig* You've just proven my point that it's arbitrarily applied to some members but not others.

Kinslayer
20th October 2006, 5:40 AM
Seriously. What the hell ARE you talking about? There is no 7 line rule.

This:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v682/ej2way/you.jpg

Is the sig limit.

MetalMario
20th October 2006, 5:41 AM
Seriously. What the hell ARE you talking about? There is no 7 line rule.

This:
[snip]

Is the sig limit.
Are you saying I faked the image in my post?

Kinslayer
20th October 2006, 5:42 AM
Are you saying I faked the image in my post?

Yes. That's EXACTLY what I just said. Nothing gets by you, slick.

Ninjit
20th October 2006, 5:43 AM
Yes, it is. Observe:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/MetalMario201/7lineshl.png

Edit: *sees 6es in your sig* You've just proven my point that it's arbitrarily applied to some members but not others.
Seems so. Try going under Options on your User CP and down to Miscellaneous Options and change Message Editor Interface to Enhanced Interface. If that doesn't help, I don't know what does.

Chris
20th October 2006, 5:50 AM
Every line counts. So let's review your sig.

1) AS Alliance (co-owner) Shiny Lovers Club Christian Alliance
2)
3) Banner
4) 4
5) 5
6) 6
7) 7

That's seven lines right there. LugiaRules' sig also follows the seven line limit.

1) Image + Thanks to jindahouse!
2) Image + Pikazard! Ain't it cute? Thanks to Jolteon Jordan!
3)
4) Image
5) Thanks to RainbowIslands for this awesome banner!
6)
7) http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=156561 Join my Club Penguin fan club!

Nobody has gone past the 7 line limit.

And Kinslayer, that image isn't fake. We had a seven line limit placed in a while back to limit the amount of crap people had in their sigs.

MetalMario
20th October 2006, 5:56 AM
Every line counts. So let's review your sig.

1) AS Alliance (co-owner) Shiny Lovers Club Christian Alliance
2)
3) Banner
4) 4
5) 5
6) 6
7) 7

That's seven lines right there. LugiaRules' sig also follows the seven line limit.

1) Image + Thanks to jindahouse!
2) Image + Pikazard! Ain't it cute? Thanks to Jolteon Jordan!
3)
4) Image
5) Thanks to RainbowIslands for this awesome banner!
6)
7) http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=156561 Join my Club Penguin fan club!

Nobody has gone past the 7 line limit.

And Kinslayer, that image isn't fake. We had a seven line limit placed in a while back to limit the amount of crap people had in their sigs.
Ninjit had a bunch of extra lines in his sig for a short period of time, and it worked. Also, see:
http://www.serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=38013
http://www.serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=42498
http://www.serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=5588
http://www.serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=55053

LugiaRules
20th October 2006, 5:57 AM
[SIZE=1]That's seven lines right there. LugiaRules' sig also follows the seven line limit.

1) Image + Thanks to jindahouse!
2) Image + Pikazard! Ain't it cute? Thanks to Jolteon Jordan!
3)
4) Image
5) Thanks to RainbowIslands for this awesome banner!
6)
7) http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=156561 Join my Club Penguin fan club!

Nobody has gone past the 7 line limit.



Yay! I've been mentioned by a mod! W00t! This goes in the record books!

But seriously, Metal Mario (or whatever the heck it was), you need to read the 2nd post in this thread. Take that to mind, and stop complaining!

MetalMario
20th October 2006, 6:00 AM
See my above post. It's not the rule, but the seemingly random exclusions to it which I'm complaining about. I'm 100% certain that at least some of the signatures in the profiles I've linked to (not trying to point fingers) have been changed since the rules inception.

Edit: Also, if this rule's going to be in place, it should be written in the "rules" page.

Kinslayer
20th October 2006, 6:00 AM
And Kinslayer, that image isn't fake. We had a seven line limit placed in a while back to limit the amount of crap people had in their sigs.

Is it like, "don't pick up on sarcasm day", or what?

LugiaRules
20th October 2006, 6:04 AM
Is it like, "don't pick up on sarcasm day", or what?

Not everyone understands sarcasm. Maybe you should give up sarcasm. (It would make a big difference)

Amadeus
20th October 2006, 7:17 AM
You don't know Ethan much, do you?

I never got why you'd want a bigger sig, anyway. Seems obnoxious.

Virtual Headache
20th October 2006, 6:22 PM
The members who have got more than 7 lines in their sig and have already changed their sig since the 7 line rule was introduced are most likely people who belong to different usergroups.
Not only the mod group, but also public usergroups.

Seems like the 7 lines limit wasn't set up for every public usergroup.

On a side note, I also think the sig limit should be the same for everyone.
I don't really want any special rights.

MetalMario
20th October 2006, 11:13 PM
You don't know Ethan much, do you?

I never got why you'd want a bigger sig, anyway. Seems obnoxious.
1. I was referring to the exclusions to the rule, not the rule, itself.
2. There are lots of technical subtleties in the rule which can force users into having more obnoxious signatures, such as its intolerance of whitespace, which usually makes sigs more readable and less cramped. The way 'lines' are determined is also rather poor. It treats long lines as if they're multiple lines, wrapping as if viewed on a 640x480 monitor, and ignores text size changes.


The members who have got more than 7 lines in their sig and have already changed their sig since the 7 line rule was introduced are most likely people who belong to different usergroups.
Not only the mod group, but also public usergroups.

Seems like the 7 lines limit wasn't set up for every public usergroup.

On a side note, I also think the sig limit should be the same for everyone.
I don't really want any special rights.
Why exactly are there different public usergroups which are not only hidden but also theoretically identical in function? The rules for placement in these groups seem completely arbitrary.

Considering how this rule appeared following the forum reset, and its accompaniment with several other debilitating forum glitches, it seems almost as if the 7 line rule was an accident.

Oh, and thanks for taking the time to actually understand my topic, VH. :)

LugiaRules
21st October 2006, 2:53 AM
MetalMario, you're just spammin' up the forums with your useless complaints.

Virtual Headache
21st October 2006, 3:12 AM
Why exactly are there different public usergroups which are not only hidden but also theoretically identical in function? The rules for placement in these groups seem completely arbitrary.

You can join the groups here: http://serebiiforums.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups
The purpose of these groups is to show other members what you are interested in.


Considering how this rule appeared following the forum reset, and its accompaniment with several other debilitating forum glitches, it seems almost as if the 7 line rule was an accident.

Oh, and thanks for taking the time to actually understand my topic, VH. :)
When the forums were upgraded to 3.6.0, the sig limits were added.
They are a new function of the forums.

And I think 7 lines aren't really much...

MetalMario, you're just spammin' up the forums with your useless complaints.
And you are spamming up the forums with posts like this...

MetalMario
21st October 2006, 4:31 AM
You can join the groups here: http://serebiiforums.com/profile.php?do=editusergroups
The purpose of these groups is to show other members what you are interested in.
Oh those. >.> I didn't think they had any tie-in to the permission policies whatsoever. I'll have a look. (It still doesn't make any sense.)

Oh, and the other debilitating glitches I'm referring to are how extended characters can't be typed without showing up as ?????, and how some members can't receive PMs. (they share the same root cause)

Edit: Well, whaddya know? :p

Chris
21st October 2006, 5:35 AM
Is it like, "don't pick up on sarcasm day", or what?
You're absolutely terrible at sarcasm lately. :( YOU NEED MORE TRAINING.

That and the whole internets explanation.

The Flat World
21st October 2006, 6:05 AM
Kinslayer, you're a mini-modding ****, so please go away.

I too have had this problem. I can't get my sig to be longer than 7 lines. It's not like a mod forbid me or anything but the forums itself wouldn't let me. This isn't a complaint about the 'number of lines', as I don't need my sig to be more than 7 lines long. I'm just saying that what the guy is saying is true, and that he shouldn't be jumped at as he is being now.

Locke Yggdrasill
21st October 2006, 6:21 AM
Not everyone understands sarcasm. Maybe you should give up sarcasm. (It would make a big difference)
You're tarding up the forums with posts like that.
MetalMario, there's not some racist or sexist or whatever group on these forums set out to defeat your signature, I can assure you. I'd assume it's just a glitch.


Kinslayer, you're a mini-modding ****, so please go away.

I too have had this problem. I can't get my sig to be longer than 7 lines. It's not like a mod forbid me or anything but the forums itself wouldn't let me. This isn't a complaint about the 'number of lines', as I don't need my sig to be more than 7 lines long. I'm just saying that what the guy is saying is true, and that he shouldn't be jumped at as he is being now.
I guess ignorance IS bliss. KINSLAYER WAS A MOD OMFGFTWWTFLOL. You're just an idiot, so please go away.

MetalMario
21st October 2006, 6:27 AM
Virtual Headache was right. :)

And most of the time, I only need three lines for my sig--to display what's in it now. It just bothers me how sometimes I went in to put in a bit (as in, four lines) of size-1 text and it wouldn't let me. IMO, the rule should simply be kept to pixel size.

Midnight Lucario
21st October 2006, 6:29 AM
Mod fight, mod fight!

On-Topic: You should not even need more than 5-6 lined, ands that a lot.

Locke Yggdrasill
21st October 2006, 6:30 AM
Mod fight, mod fight!
You know that it was just banter, right? o-o

The Flat World
21st October 2006, 10:03 AM
I guess ignorance IS bliss. KINSLAYER WAS A MOD OMFGFTWWTFLOL. You're just an idiot, so please go away.

So? He/she's not a mod anymore is he/she? I don't see his name in bold or italics?

And LOL I'm an idiot because I don't know the past of a forum member. How ignorant of me!

Kinslayer
21st October 2006, 10:19 AM
Kinslayer, you're a mini-modding ****, so please go away.

...How in the hell did I "mini-mod"? Try to know what the hell you're talking about. And good job flaming me for no reason. :)


How ignorant of me!
No, see, the ignorance comes from you not knowing what you're talking about, then bashing someone while not knowing what you're talking about, love.


You're absolutely terrible at sarcasm lately. :( YOU NEED MORE TRAINING.
Or maybe you've just been terrible at detecting it. ;0 Who needs what now?


IMO, this whole thing can be solved by eliminating sigs altogether. I sure as balls wouldn't miss them. :)


When the forums were upgraded to 3.6.0, the sig limits were added.
Did that come WITH the upgrade, or is it really a glitch, as Latios suggested?

Kirby
21st October 2006, 10:22 AM
Kinslayer, you're a mini-modding ****, so please go away.

I too have had this problem. I can't get my sig to be longer than 7 lines. It's not like a mod forbid me or anything but the forums itself wouldn't let me. This isn't a complaint about the 'number of lines', as I don't need my sig to be more than 7 lines long. I'm just saying that what the guy is saying is true, and that he shouldn't be jumped at as he is being now.

He wasn't minimodding.

Enjoy a nice warning for flaming.

Fangirl
21st October 2006, 10:26 AM
Ignoring the fight...
It's obviously a glitch, but mayhaps this should be looked into? *pokes sig*
I mean, I'm sure it can be fixed. Just a matter of, will it be?

Chris
23rd October 2006, 6:49 AM
Kinslayer, you're a mini-modding ****, so please go away.
Good job calling the kettle black, Mr. Pot. :) You're doing the same thing by telling someone else not to do something, even though they aren't. You don't have any power to do anything, yourself, so I suggest YOU go away and shaddap. :)

LugiaRules
24th October 2006, 1:57 AM
KINSLAYER WAS A MOD OMFGFTWWTFLOL.

I think Kinslayer should be a mod again. I also think you'd make a good mod too, Locke.

yutss
24th October 2006, 4:10 AM
Good job calling the kettle black, Mr. Pot. :) You're doing the same thing by telling someone else not to do something, even though they aren't. You don't have any power to do anything, yourself, so I suggest YOU go away and shaddap. :)

Haha! Good post! I havn't seen you around these parts too much, so you must be new. Although, I cant help that feeling I have seen you somewhere before...

Kirby
24th October 2006, 4:14 AM
Haha! Good post! I havn't seen you around these parts too much, so you must be new. Although, I cant help that feeling I have seen you somewhere before...

Chris is Edward Elric

yutss
24th October 2006, 4:24 AM
Chris is Edward Elric

:o..... Whoa! Name change. If I could have mine changed, it for sure would be from yutss to Yutss.

Shining Mew
24th October 2006, 4:25 AM
And to answer your question, it's called a forum bug. Live with it. :\


This thread sucks IMO.
edit: Ill ask joe about it tomorrow though. That, and the nonsense with people having little special characters in their names and how its ****in up the PMs/sig editting and what not. And fixing the damn rules link in the top right corner. I dare not try to mess with the skins again lawl :[

edit 2: GOOD GOD HE FIXED IT WITHOUT ME NOTICING. WHAT A DAY FOR MIRACLES.

Kinslayer
24th October 2006, 4:26 AM
I think Kinslayer should be a mod again.

I don't. 8)


It's obviously a glitch, but mayhaps this should be looked into? *pokes sig*
I mean, I'm sure it can be fixed. Just a matter of, will it be?
Yay! Someone other than me actually uses the word "mayhaps". 8D!

Anyways, the matter of it being fixed is up to Jesus-ebii...That is, if he pays attention to this thread, or if someone posts it in the Mod Lounge(s). *shrug*

Shining Mew
24th October 2006, 11:38 PM
Ok well turns out its a vb glitch.
Aka we cant do anything about it


sorry