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~Heaven Help Us~
25th December 2008, 10:55 PM
If she does die, then we are gonna see her all old.

Haxon22
25th December 2008, 10:59 PM
Ewww she hideous when she's old lol

uber gon
25th December 2008, 11:05 PM
Well it's about time SOMEONE other than Sasuke gets some new threads.:)

PokeFan1998
26th December 2008, 1:02 AM
People are saying Naruto will end once Naruto kills ein? But were forgetting about the Uchihas and Danzo. Now answer these questions for me.

1.Did Shizune really die or will Kishimoto pull a "Dragonball" on us?
2.How much of Konoha did Pein destroy?(Chapter 429 went too fast too keep up)
3.Where is Sai in all of this?

HoennMaster
26th December 2008, 1:05 AM
Sounds like an amazing chapter. Doubt time Naruto gets back!


From the same place i get the spoiler info's.

Well i think this chapter is really going to be great. I have a feeling that my theory about Tsunade's death might become true if the spoilers are accurate, meaning she dies because of the overuse of her Seal.

This is only the second know time she uses it, I doubt that is enough to kill here. Plus, she has to store up chakra which takes a lot of time, and she has no reason to right now since she is already using it.

People need to stop jumping to conclusions and think of more then one possibility. She doesn't have to die.

Horoika1
26th December 2008, 1:42 AM
I think Naruto coming in wearing a cape similar to the 4th's is foreshadowing that he is going to take the place of Hokage REALLY soon.

Haxon22
26th December 2008, 2:29 AM
^^ He won't feel those shoes for quite a while, I really doubt that

TsukiMirage
26th December 2008, 4:57 AM
People are saying Naruto will end once Naruto kills ein? But were forgetting about the Uchihas and Danzo. Now answer these questions for me.

1.Did Shizune really die or will Kishimoto pull a "Dragonball" on us?
2.How much of Konoha did Pein destroy?(Chapter 429 went too fast too keep up)
3.Where is Sai in all of this?

1. While unconfirmed, Shizune is probably dead, Since she possesses no other role in the story except as Tsunade's student, Which now belongs to Sakura.

2. Deva Pain destroyed the entire center of it for miles. The only parts remaining are the homes that bordered the wall of the village.

3. Probably with Danzo underground.

Haxon22
26th December 2008, 5:09 AM
^^ Don't think Shizune is dead. Tsunade is prolly gonna save her some how <_<

TsukiMirage
26th December 2008, 6:30 AM
Kishi has no reason to keep Shizune alive. Sakura has taken the role that Shizune held and Shizune has already accomplish what she had to do. Besides, It's more likely Kakashi is alive then Shizune as far as dead named characters go. Although like I said, It's still unconfirmed.

Lucario At Service
26th December 2008, 8:05 AM
This is only the second know time she uses it, I doubt that is enough to kill here. Plus, she has to store up chakra which takes a lot of time, and she has no reason to right now since she is already using it.
Yes its true that we have only have seen her use it once before & if the spoilers are accurate then this would be the 2nd time for her. But is it really her 2nd time, maybe she had already used it once or twice before she became the Hokage.
As far as i know i am sure she would have used that Seal atleast once before she meet Naruto or else how would she know about the side-effects of the Jutsu. Also we don't really know by how much percentage the Seal Jutsu reduces her life-span, maybe its related tohow much one uses the jutsu or else has a fixed high amount of lifespan reduction.

According to me if a person creates a Jutsu, unless until he tries it he cannot know the true extent of its power & side-effects just like until Naruto used the Rasen-Shuriken in a real battle he didn't know about the side-effects of it (remember he had already used it a few times during his practice of that Jutsu).

People need to stop jumping to conclusions and think of more then one possibility. She doesn't have to die.
Also as you must have read my post i only said that my theory might become true, i wasn't jumping to conclusions there because i know anything can happen in the manga. I was just pointing out the possibility thats all.

uber gon
26th December 2008, 9:38 AM
Heh maybe Gamatatsu will make an appearance via Naruto's summoning skills soon.:p

HoennMaster
26th December 2008, 12:04 PM
You do bring up a good point. But considering she left Konoha years before her introduction, and she really had no reason to use it that we know of, I doubt it's cut her lifespan by much.


Also as you must have read my post i only said that my theory might become true, i wasn't jumping to conclusions there because i know anything can happen in the manga. I was just pointing out the possibility thats all.

I wasn't referring to your post. Just a general statement about people who read a few words and say "OMG she's going to die!" "I Knew it, she's dying now", etc. etc.

Lucario At Service
26th December 2008, 12:27 PM
I wasn't referring to your post. Just a general statement about people who read a few words and say "OMG she's going to die!" "I Knew it, she's dying now", etc. etc.
Thats ok then.

Well i found a new pic from the upcoming chapter. Also to those who are wondering when the chapter might be released it seems that it might be late then usual. Some are saying that we might get the raws tonight so the translations might be up after that.
http://i41.*******.com/feiao2.jpg

Horoika1
26th December 2008, 3:03 PM
That's nice...I was hoping to read it today.

~Heaven Help Us~
26th December 2008, 3:06 PM
Man out of all the days, today with the best chapter, they had to be running late in translating it.

Lucario At Service
26th December 2008, 3:39 PM
Man out of all the days, today with the best chapter, they had to be running late in translating it.
Well we can't blame the translators here because the raws are not out till now & unless the raws are out the translators can't do a thing.

~Heaven Help Us~
26th December 2008, 3:49 PM
I know but still. i cant wait.

Horoika1
26th December 2008, 4:17 PM
Let's all thank the great cause of this:

Christmas (fun though)....

Addie
26th December 2008, 6:04 PM
I think Naruto coming in wearing a cape similar to the 4th's is foreshadowing that he is going to take the place of Hokage REALLY soon.

Err, what? That's not going to happen REALLY soon.

Mawile XD
26th December 2008, 7:47 PM
Naruto's dream is to become Hokage, therefore the series will end when he becomes one. I think it'll happen after Naruto's heavily foreshadowed battle with Sasuke...

~Heaven Help Us~
27th December 2008, 12:34 AM
People, Onmanga said that theres no Naruto this week.

uber gon
27th December 2008, 4:14 AM
Hopefully Kurenai wasn't caught in the blast. It'd suck if she died.

~Heaven Help Us~
27th December 2008, 7:19 PM
Hinata probably rescued her.

ak47madden
27th December 2008, 8:01 PM
Naruto's dream is to become Hokage, therefore the series will end when he becomes one. I think it'll happen after Naruto's heavily foreshadowed battle with Sasuke...

When Goku saved the world did the series end? My prediction that IF Naruto becomes Hokage they'll make a spin off like DBZ/DBZ GT.

And yes their is no new naruto release this week since its a holiday weekend. The chapter will be released on Monday.

Horoika1
28th December 2008, 12:53 AM
Naruto is going to be Hokage really soon. At least, much sooner than Naruto Manga Chapter 1.

It doesn't necessarily mean that when Naruto becomes Hokage the series ends. He can become Hokage can kick serious butt as Hokage.

~Heaven Help Us~
28th December 2008, 4:49 AM
Naruto is going to be Hokage really soon. At least, much sooner than Naruto Manga Chapter 1.

It doesn't necessarily mean that when Naruto becomes Hokage the series ends. He can become Hokage can kick serious butt as Hokage.

Yeah, like kill Sasuke.

HoennMaster
28th December 2008, 8:00 AM
And yes their is no new naruto release this week since its a holiday weekend. The chapter will be released on Monday.

So...that would be today. Wondering where more spoilers are. Hope the chapter is up soon.

Pikapikapikachu
28th December 2008, 8:04 AM
So...that would be today. Wondering where more spoilers are. Hope the chapter is up soon.

The chapter is not going to be up until next week, not monday unless someone gets a copy of it. I wonder how Naruto will react to the destruction of Konoha? I know he would probably be shocked, but I want to know how he will feel afterwards. Like would he go and search for pein to get revenge? I can't wait!

TsukiMirage
28th December 2008, 9:05 AM
The chapter is not going to be up until next week, not monday unless someone gets a copy of it. I wonder how Naruto will react to the destruction of Konoha? I know he would probably be shocked, but I want to know how he will feel afterwards. Like would he go and search for pein to get revenge? I can't wait!The chapter continues right where we left off, Naruto arrival and Deva Pain standing up.

Lucario At Service
28th December 2008, 4:00 PM
Here are some more spoiler pics of the upcoming chapter 430 (For those who haven't seen the previous 3 spoiler pics, i am posting them again here),
http://i40.*******.com/1zyh5hx.jpghttp://i42.*******.com/ndwwbb.jpg
http://i40.*******.com/2nvdtoo.jpghttp://i42.*******.com/15hz884.jpghttp://i44.*******.com/35it7af.jpg
http://i41.*******.com/feiao2.jpghttp://i41.*******.com/zikumv.jpghttp://i43.*******.com/kd3b6x.jpg

~Heaven Help Us~
28th December 2008, 4:36 PM
Holy ****, this is gonna be the best chapter ever! the other two frogs are so awesome!! man cant wait.

Kakashi-Sharingan Warrior
28th December 2008, 4:48 PM
Well, there a lot of fake spoilers going around...apparently WSJ took a break this week. That picture at the bottom with Kakashi looks a bit out of proportion a bit....can you confirm these are legit?

Lucario At Service
28th December 2008, 5:00 PM
Well, there a lot of fake spoilers going around...apparently WSJ took a break this week. That picture at the bottom with Kakashi looks a bit out of proportion a bit....can you confirm these are legit?
The place where i got those pics tells that the quatily of this pics is at the same level as that of Kishi's work & they haven't till now seen any fake spoiler look that good. Also the pics matches parts of the spoiler info's we got till now. Also they have been completely confirmed to be legit.
As for the pic of Kakashi, you can see that it is part of the 4th pic that i posted (see the upper right corner) similar to the pic of Fukasaku which is part of the 5th pic.

~Heaven Help Us~
28th December 2008, 5:45 PM
i read this at mangahelpers.com but idk if it's real. they say that there's a byakugan user that we have never seen before. and that his byakugan is in a state or form we have never seen before.

Lucario At Service
28th December 2008, 6:02 PM
i read this at mangahelpers.com but idk if it's real. they say that there's a byakugan user that we have never seen before. and that his byakugan is in a state or form we have never seen before.
I have also read that & i think i see a byakugan user in pic 4 & it seems that his left eye is damaged. Since the pic is small i can't understand anything else.

~Heaven Help Us~
28th December 2008, 6:10 PM
I have also read that & i think i see a byakugan user in pic 4 & it seems that his left eye is damaged. Since the pic is small i can't understand anything else.

oh right right. yeah that's what it looks like. or the eye that looks damaged could be his good ete and the byakugan eye could be that he really is blind.

uber gon
28th December 2008, 9:29 PM
Yeah, like kill Sasuke.

You must not like Sasuke much, huh.

~Heaven Help Us~
28th December 2008, 10:24 PM
You must not like Sasuke much, huh.

How did you know!! :O

Skiks
28th December 2008, 10:37 PM
Man if this spoiler is true this is the first time in a while I've seen naruto be so bad ***.
...
Seems really fake doesn't it?

~Heaven Help Us~
28th December 2008, 10:49 PM
Man if this spoiler is true this is the first time in a while I've seen naruto be so bad ***.
...
Seems really fake doesn't it?

nope.

blah.

Horoika1
28th December 2008, 11:51 PM
Hopefully Naruto can actually become cool.

Because then he would pull some cheesy Shadow-Clone trick and win somehow. I hope he can actually have powers without the excessive use of Shadow-Clones.

Skiks
29th December 2008, 12:29 AM
Hopefully Naruto can actually become cool.

Because then he would pull some cheesy Shadow-Clone trick and win somehow. I hope he can actually have powers without the excessive use of Shadow-Clones.
Well we can already infer he's using shadow clones to use sage mode since it's the answer to everything. But it'd be nice if sage mode lets him do more moves then just send a bunch of shadow clone to get pulverized with one blow.

~Heaven Help Us~
29th December 2008, 12:32 AM
No it'd be tight if he uses 5 clones. 3 clones gather up sage chakra while the original body and 2 other clones become sage. then he makes a Rasenshuriken and yeah you get the point.

uber gon
29th December 2008, 2:43 AM
No it'd be tight if he uses 5 clones. 3 clones gather up sage chakra while the original body and 2 other clones become sage. then he makes a Rasenshuriken and yeah you get the point.

Let's just hope the Rasenshuriken can be used without reprucussions now.

HoennMaster
29th December 2008, 4:10 AM
I hope this battle won't be short, it looks to good to be over right away.

uber gon
29th December 2008, 5:28 AM
Here are some more spoiler pics of the upcoming chapter 430 (For those who haven't seen the previous 3 spoiler pics, i am posting them again here),
http://i40.*******.com/1zyh5hx.jpghttp://i42.*******.com/ndwwbb.jpg
http://i40.*******.com/2nvdtoo.jpghttp://i42.*******.com/15hz884.jpghttp://i44.*******.com/35it7af.jpg
http://i41.*******.com/feiao2.jpghttp://i41.*******.com/zikumv.jpghttp://i43.*******.com/kd3b6x.jpg

Heh Gamakichi can still fit on Gamabunta's head pretty well.:p

Lucario At Service
29th December 2008, 8:04 AM
From a clear pic of the pic 2 which i posted above it seems that Naruto didn't destroy Demon Realm Pain in one punch but destroyed it with a Rasengan.
Here is one new pic of the upcoming chapter with 2 much clear pics of previously posted pics,
http://i44.*******.com/1zfltf7.jpg
http://i43.*******.com/2lksc37.jpg(New)
http://i42.*******.com/zjypmh.jpg

No it'd be tight if he uses 5 clones. 3 clones gather up sage chakra while the original body and 2 other clones become sage. then he makes a Rasenshuriken and yeah you get the point.
Well i have heard a theory about how the scroll on Naruto's back could be a Shadow Clone using the Transformation Jutsu to look like that & thats how Naruto is gather the Nature Chakra on the move.
To tell the truth i believe that this theory is much better than the one where Naruto hides a few of his clone so that they could gather Nature Chakra for him.

Off-Topic:- Ok this is a bit of topic but can someone confirm me about something. When did Sasuke first activated his Sharingan in the manga.

HoennMaster
29th December 2008, 12:41 PM
So I believe in the new pic that Tsunade is talking about how Naruto has changed and resembles his dad and Jiraiya. Cool. Can't wait to see Naruto in action. He looks cool with those eyes. I wonder how the anime will handle it.

Horoika1
29th December 2008, 4:59 PM
This is gonna be a really awesome chapter! And if it's a few chapters for the fights, even cooler!

~Heaven Help Us~
29th December 2008, 5:15 PM
From a clear pic of the pic 2 which i posted above it seems that Naruto didn't destroy Demon Realm Pain in one punch but destroyed it with a Rasengan.
Here is one new pic of the upcoming chapter with 2 much clear pics of previously posted pics,
http://i44.*******.com/1zfltf7.jpg
http://i43.*******.com/2lksc37.jpg(New)
http://i42.*******.com/zjypmh.jpg

Well i have heard a theory about how the scroll on Naruto's back could be a Shadow Clone using the Transformation Jutsu to look like that & thats how Naruto is gather the Nature Chakra on the move.
To tell the truth i believe that this theory is much better than the one where Naruto hides a few of his clone so that they could gather Nature Chakra for him.

Off-Topic:- Ok this is a bit of topic but can someone confirm me about something. When did Sasuke first activated his Sharingan in the manga.

yeah that scroll thing makes sense. and he first activated it during Zabuza.

Horoika1
29th December 2008, 5:50 PM
That would be ingenious. Well, Kankurou also did it with his puppets during the Chunin Exams.

uber gon
29th December 2008, 5:57 PM
From a clear pic of the pic 2 which i posted above it seems that Naruto didn't destroy Demon Realm Pain in one punch but destroyed it with a Rasengan.
Here is one new pic of the upcoming chapter with 2 much clear pics of previously posted pics,
http://i44.*******.com/1zfltf7.jpg
http://i43.*******.com/2lksc37.jpg(New)
http://i42.*******.com/zjypmh.jpg


Darn, I wanted to see the improved Rasenshuriken in action. Oh well, at least a Pein body got thrashed.:)

Lucario At Service
29th December 2008, 6:03 PM
Well to everyone out there i have a news. Low Quality (pics taken by camera) Raws are out!

~Heaven Help Us~
29th December 2008, 6:13 PM
where!!!!????!!!

Lucario At Service
29th December 2008, 6:18 PM
where!!!!????!!!
At MH, and the the things we got in the spoilers are correct except the new type of Byakugan which was just a mistranslation.

and he first activated it during Zabuza.
Then how come he has his Sharingan activated in a flashback in Ch 403 page 13

~Heaven Help Us~
29th December 2008, 6:53 PM
At MH, and the the things we got in the spoilers are correct except the new type of Byakugan which was just a mistranslation.

Then how come he has his Sharingan activated in a flashback in Ch 403 page 13

page 11 you mean??

well during Zabuza was the first time that he realized that he had activated it.

Edit: onemanga has the chapter tranlated but not best quality. but still go it it.

uber gon
30th December 2008, 3:23 AM
Oh how I pray for Naruto to use some uber wind jutsu on Pein's bodies.:)

Anyone surprised that Pa's a green skinned frog? I thought he'd be orange or something.

Kakashi-Sharingan Warrior
30th December 2008, 3:35 AM
Just read the chapter
Pretty good...I'm liking Naruto's new appearance. I wonder how his fight with Pein will go, and what purpose those huge frogs will have?

jiang
30th December 2008, 3:47 AM
wow! Naruto is very awesome! I am beginning to like him more as a character. I like this chapter, one of pain's bodies got trashed! literally.

Haxon22
30th December 2008, 4:52 AM
^^ Ya I guess There trying to show Naruto's ****** off side or something.

Horoika1
30th December 2008, 5:38 AM
This is going to be a REALLY awesome battle.

~Heaven Help Us~
30th December 2008, 5:04 PM
It is gonna be awesome. and all the frogs that were summoned are so cool. the red one on the left is my favorite one.


one thing i don't get is here (http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/14.jpg) when Konan says I'll jsut my paper bunshin. i don't get what she meant.

Lucario At Service
30th December 2008, 7:49 PM
one thing i don't get is here (http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/14.jpg) when Konan says I'll jsut my paper bunshin. i don't get what she meant.
From what i know she said that she would stop using her Paper Clones from now on & look after him (Pain/Nagato) by herself.
My thoery is that Nagato is near Konoha sending his Chakra to the 6 bodies but Konan might have been told to stay away from there & to only use her Paper Clones. But now that Pain/Nagato has used a technique that effects his lifespan, she is worried about him & decides to look after him by herself & not use her clones to look after.

As for what is going to happen after ch 430, i think Naruto is going to defeat the 6 bodies of Pain with the help of the frog's, Konohamaru (since he found out about Hell R Pain's ability), Chouji or Tsunade (since they know about God Realms Power), & maybe Ino or her dad (because they have seen Human Realms power to some extent).
But the real fight with the real Pain (Nagato) would be after a bit of time. If Nagato is the one who is really controlling the 6 bodies than i think that when Naruto fights him he would not use any of the dead bodies to create Pain bodies but would fight him by himself. Thats because he would know by then that using bodies against Naruto would be waste & also if Naruto is able to destroy God Realms body aka Yakiho's body i think Nagato might want revenge for doing that since it seems that he is quite attached to this body by first making it the most powerful one of all and also the one who does most of his works when working alone and the other bodies are deactivated & also using one of his other bodies to stop it from getting destroyed by Kakashi.

Also i think that Neji is going to play an important role in the upcoming fight. My guess is that he would be the one who would first find the location of Nagato because Nagato most propably has very high amount of chakra (but ignore him by seeing the destruction of Konoha) or would be the one to solve the mystery of Pain chakra transmitors since i think he's Byakugan is the most developed one in his clan & might have the ability to see chakra flow through the air to the black rods aka the transmitors which might shed light on Ino's thoery that the real one might be near Konoha.

Mawile XD
31st December 2008, 1:25 AM
Kishimoto, if this battle is good, you'll have saved the manga. Ever since that cheap Manda trick, the series has gone downhill, but this is extremely cool, and could save the series. I'm actually looking forward for more...

~Heaven Help Us~
31st December 2008, 1:40 AM
From what i know she said that she would stop using her Paper Clones from now on & look after him (Pain/Nagato) by herself.
My thoery is that Nagato is near Konoha sending his Chakra to the 6 bodies but Konan might have been told to stay away from there & to only use her Paper Clones. But now that Pain/Nagato has used a technique that effects his lifespan, she is worried about him & decides to look after him by herself & not use her clones to look after.

As for what is going to happen after ch 430, i think Naruto is going to defeat the 6 bodies of Pain with the help of the frog's, Konohamaru (since he found out about Hell R Pain's ability), Chouji or Tsunade (since they know about God Realms Power), & maybe Ino or her dad (because they have seen Human Realms power to some extent).
But the real fight with the real Pain (Nagato) would be after a bit of time. If Nagato is the one who is really controlling the 6 bodies than i think that when Naruto fights him he would not use any of the dead bodies to create Pain bodies but would fight him by himself. Thats because he would know by then that using bodies against Naruto would be waste & also if Naruto is able to destroy God Realms body aka Yakiho's body i think Nagato might want revenge for doing that since it seems that he is quite attached to this body by first making it the most powerful one of all and also the one who does most of his works when working alone and the other bodies are deactivated & also using one of his other bodies to stop it from getting destroyed by Kakashi.

Also i think that Neji is going to play an important role in the upcoming fight. My guess is that he would be the one who would first find the location of Nagato because Nagato most propably has very high amount of chakra (but ignore him by seeing the destruction of Konoha) or would be the one to solve the mystery of Pain chakra transmitors since i think he's Byakugan is the most developed one in his clan & might have the ability to see chakra flow through the air to the black rods aka the transmitors which might shed light on Ino's thoery that the real one might be near Konoha.
wow, all of that could be real. i like the neji part. LAS youre good at making predictions and stuff.

uber gon
31st December 2008, 2:46 AM
Wonder how powerful the wind jutsu Naruto possibly learned are going to be? Hopefully much more stronger and less dangerous than the Rasenshuriken.

Kakashi-Sharingan Warrior
31st December 2008, 4:43 AM
Well, if Naruto could shatter one of Pein's bodies with just his normal fist, imagine how much a rasengan would do 0.0

Horoika1
31st December 2008, 5:20 AM
What if Gai, coming back to the village, finds Nagato Pain?

And ta-da, there's Neji! (Was he there? I believe so, but now I doubt myself...).

LonesomeDiamond
31st December 2008, 6:16 AM
It would be odd if Nagato was just sitting behind a tree somewhere outside Konoha...For some reason, I can't see him in any other position besides sitting on a big demonic throne...(but that doesn't fit the theory that he has to be nearby)... :\

btw, All the frogs in this chapter have been seen before. The horned one is the pacifistic one Jiraiya used against Pein, and the other one was used when Orochimaru attacked Konoha :\
(Just so ye know)

Oh, and Naruto was absolutely badass in this chapter, I'm quite pleased :D

ak47madden
31st December 2008, 6:26 AM
This weeks chapters so EPIC. I'm expecting an atleast 2-3 chapter fight from Pein and Naruto or more.

Lucario At Service
31st December 2008, 7:56 AM
Well, if Naruto could shatter one of Pein's bodies with just his normal fist, imagine how much a rasengan would do 0.0
Naruto didn't destroy Demon Realm Pain with his fist, he destroyed it using a Rasengan (check the chapter once more).

Wonder how powerful the wind jutsu Naruto possibly learned are going to be? Hopefully much more stronger and less dangerous than the Rasenshuriken.
It hasn't been confirmed that Naruto learned any other wind type jutsu other than the Rasenshuriken & its less powered version (though i hope he does).
As for the jutsu Naruto has been practicing secretly, though it looks like some sort of cutting jutsu (similar to wind type) but it is also be noted that Naruto knew about that jutsu before he even knew about the Nature Manipulation (i am sure the jutsu Naruto was practicing secretly was the one which Jiraiya told Naruto not to use).

wow, all of that could be real. i like the neji part. LAS youre good at making predictions and stuff.
Thanks, but i hope that it turns out to be true because though i make good theories or predictions, they tend to not happen in the chapters so it becomes kind of useless.

~Heaven Help Us~
31st December 2008, 5:02 PM
Man Naruto is gonna get 10 times better from this point on.

uber gon
31st December 2008, 6:14 PM
Heh imagine how strong Naruto could be if he uses whatever Itachi gave him when they met.:p

~Heaven Help Us~
31st December 2008, 6:18 PM
Heh imagine how strong Naruto could be if he uses whatever Itachi gave him when they met.:p

He'll probably defeat Pain, and mention that to Pa frog so he can help him discover it. or while he's fighting Pain.

uber gon
31st December 2008, 6:33 PM
He'll probably defeat Pain, and mention that to Pa frog so he can help him discover it. or while he's fighting Pain.

Hopefully that happens. That'd be nice.

Mawile XD
31st December 2008, 11:28 PM
It would be odd if Nagato was just sitting behind a tree somewhere outside Konoha...For some reason, I can't see him in any other position besides sitting on a big demonic throne...(but that doesn't fit the theory that he has to be nearby)... :\

btw, All the frogs in this chapter have been seen before. The horned one is the pacifistic one Jiraiya used against Pein, and the other one was used when Orochimaru attacked Konoha :\
(Just so ye know)

Oh, and Naruto was absolutely badass in this chapter, I'm quite pleased :D

XD, I can't see anything other than Nagato lying down under a bush...

ak47madden
31st December 2008, 11:39 PM
My prediction is Sasuke/Team Hebi (or Hawk I think) interferes with the PeinNaruto fight. Then they'll go more in-depth with Karin, Suigetsu and Juugo.

HoennMaster
31st December 2008, 11:55 PM
I wonder when the Cloud (or was it Lightning?) Ninja show up.

xXPorygonXx
1st January 2009, 12:44 AM
Pretty pleased with this weeks chapter.

~Heaven Help Us~
1st January 2009, 3:47 PM
I wonder when the Cloud (or was it Lightning?) Ninja show up.

I'm guessing after Naruto's fight with Pain, so that they are sent on a mission to find Killerbee and the Raikage will help them Rebuild Konoha if they find him.

Viva la Vida
1st January 2009, 4:58 PM
My guess is that Naruto will begin fighting Pain, only to be overwhelmed by all Six bodies. While Gai's team is heading back to the village, Neji sees a lot of chakra in one area and goes to investigate. It turns out its Nagato. The Team fights Nagato and thus diverting his chakra flow away from the Pains. While he's distracted, Naruto uses that new move hes been practicing on Pain and destroys another body or two. Then, Konan steps in to distract Gai's team so Nagato can focus on Pain. Just as NAruto is overwhelmed to the point, Tsunade steps in and uses the last of her chakra to protect Naruto. Tsunade then dies. The remaining Pains attack Naruto, only to find its a clone and they get hit from behind with RAsen Shuriken, ending the fight. That my prediction.

~Heaven Help Us~
1st January 2009, 5:08 PM
My guess is that Naruto will begin fighting Pain, only to be overwhelmed by all Six bodies. While Gai's team is heading back to the village, Neji sees a lot of chakra in one area and goes to investigate. It turns out its Nagato. The Team fights Nagato and thus diverting his chakra flow away from the Pains. While he's distracted, Naruto uses that new move hes been practicing on Pain and destroys another body or two. Then, Konan steps in to distract Gai's team so Nagato can focus on Pain. Just as NAruto is overwhelmed to the point, Tsunade steps in and uses the last of her chakra to protect Naruto. Tsunade then dies. The remaining Pains attack Naruto, only to find its a clone and they get hit from behind with RAsen Shuriken, ending the fight. That my prediction.

I like that except for the Tsunade dying part.

Xylitol
1st January 2009, 8:46 PM
I like how it's all final battle-like when the series isn't obviously ending anytime soon. Sasuke is still on the loose, and even the old villain Orochimaru hasn't been completely dealt with as evidenced by Kabuto's implant arm.

And it's been asked before, but where the hell is Sai? He disappeared from the story at some point...

Haxon22
1st January 2009, 10:02 PM
^^ Sai is prolly hiding underground with Nagato

Haxon22
1st January 2009, 10:05 PM
^^ Sai is prolly hiding underground with Nagato

uber gon
1st January 2009, 10:11 PM
Heh, Nagato spent all that energy reviving a Pein body that gets destroyed by Naruto instantly.:p

duncan
1st January 2009, 10:11 PM
Heh imagine how strong Naruto could be if he uses whatever Itachi gave him when they met.:p

I don't imagine he will use that until he meets Sasuke, whatever it is.

And I'm with everyone, I'm impressed with the last chapter (as well as the previous ones). I'm kind of bemused at how strong Naruto suddenly is, but at least he's finally doing something. I predict a massive long fight like the Sasuke vs. Itachi fight here.

Haxon22
1st January 2009, 10:33 PM
Anyone think Killerbee is gonna make an appearance anytime soon

uber gon
1st January 2009, 10:36 PM
I don't imagine he will use that until he meets Sasuke, whatever it is.


Wonder what it is exactly? Maybe a virus or something.

Viva la Vida
2nd January 2009, 2:14 AM
Its probably a cure for the curse mark. Without the curse mark, Sasuke will lose some power and that will level the playing field.

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd January 2009, 2:40 AM
Anyone think Killerbee is gonna make an appearance anytime soon

I do! and he is gonna show Naruto how to control the Kyuubi.

Sapphiredragon929
2nd January 2009, 2:48 AM
They killled Shizune....Pain is seriously off his rocker...

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd January 2009, 3:00 AM
They killled Shizune....Pain is seriously off his rocker...

I know what you mean. poor Shizune. lol i like your sig.

Sapphiredragon929
2nd January 2009, 3:18 AM
She works her whole life and is Tsunade's slave and for what...to get her soul ripped out by Pain! That's mean...

And the sig was hard work!! Do you know how many eligable pictures are there for Shizune...not a lot. And those that fit the rules....make it so only three are eligable.

Haxon22
2nd January 2009, 4:01 AM
Well we don't kno if she is dead or not, my guess is that Tsunade saves her somehow, remember her seal is on her forehead is gone maybe she saved her as well

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd January 2009, 4:37 AM
Well we don't kno if she is dead or not, my guess is that Tsunade saves her somehow, remember her seal is on her forehead is gone maybe she saved her as well

Her soul got ripped out of her body.

LonesomeDiamond
2nd January 2009, 4:41 AM
Its probably a cure for the curse mark. Without the curse mark, Sasuke will lose some power and that will level the playing field.

Where have you been? Sasuke lost his curse mark a long while back when he fought Itachi. He doesn't have it or need it anymore.(Cuz' now he has his cheap, crazy eyes!)

And yeah...Shizune's death was kind of...Odd. (Where did it come from?) I guess it will look nicer at Tsunade's(come on) and Kakashi's funeral to have that third pic there. XP

btw, I think we're gonna see Tsunade's true face soon...All old and whatnot. :\

Haxon22
2nd January 2009, 5:09 AM
Her soul got ripped out of her body.

Well come on this is a fiction show, so there's gotta be a way to bring her back <_<

Horoika1
2nd January 2009, 5:48 AM
Recap:

Kakashi (Deceased)*
Tsunade (Soon Deceased)*
Shizune(Deceased)
Many Citizens (Deceased)
Asura Realm (DIE!)


*Not 100&#37; sure, but very possible.

HoennMaster
2nd January 2009, 8:02 AM
Not 100% sure on Kakashi? What happened to "I was right! He's Dead!"

uber gon
2nd January 2009, 8:28 AM
I'm just hoping Kakashi and Shizune are alive, or will be brought back somehow.

Haxon22
2nd January 2009, 8:46 AM
I'm just hoping Kakashi and Shizune are alive, or will be brought back somehow.

Kakashi is most likely alive, however Shizune may be dead

Horoika1
2nd January 2009, 2:34 PM
Not 100&#37; sure on Kakashi? What happened to "I was right! He's Dead!"

I'm keeping it vague, because I know I'll be attacked otherwise.


Even though I strongly believe that he is dead.

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd January 2009, 3:35 PM
Shizune and Kakashi better not be dead.

also, you think the Ichiraku ramen lady and old guy survived?

edit: you think that Pain will kill Konan? she said she was gonna go see him, maybe he'll think she's a bother.

Horoika1
2nd January 2009, 8:12 PM
He doesn't seem like a very aggressive person. He seems calm, in his own sense obviously >.> (Shinra Tensai)

LonesomeDiamond
2nd January 2009, 8:21 PM
Seriously people. (Stand back, Horoika. I'll do it)

KAKASHI IS DEAD! He died! It happened, Kishi drew it on the paper. We saw it...and read it...cuz' it happened. And don't go *****ing, cuz' think about it for two seconds and you'd realize something.

The theme of Naruto at this point in time could NOT POSSIBLY be achieved if Kakashi did not die. Students surpassing the teachers? Well how the hell are they gonna do that w/ a badass like Kakashi standing around still? They can't, it's simple. Kakashi was a great ninja(not even one of my favorite characters though). If the young were to replace the old, it would be stupid of Kishi to leave a hole of adult greatness hanging around. And back on what I've stated before, did you REALLY want to see Kakashi go into the hospital...AGAIN? I can promise you, Kakashi has been hospitalized for an extensive period of time more than anyone else in the series...It's ridiculous and I think it ended up being a cheap way to introduce new characters and flesh out the current ones. Let him die, and we won't have to deal w/ that anymore...

Oh, and straight from the text! Tsunade's SILENCE when Chouji asked about him? hm, that wasn't hard to figure out! And the fact that Kakashi WENT TO GO CATCH UP W/ HIS DAD after he DIED! Kakashi's dad is dead, just so all of you know(I'm assuming you did). If he's speaking to a dead man...He's probably dead too.

So stop griping, and accept the truth. You can cry when the funeral chapter comes around but right now...Naruto is trying to be a badass. Let him do it, and enjoy it.

Edit: I didn't even go into the fact that he had a nail driven through his head...yeah, that's a good point to... :P

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd January 2009, 8:42 PM
LOL SP, i meant Shizune only. Mah bad :p.

LonesomeDiamond
2nd January 2009, 8:56 PM
Did you? Whatever, it still weeds out any leftovers XP

If Kakashi isn't dead, Kishi is performing a major copout...and that's retarded.

FYI, I didn't go to sleep last night...So I'm in that freakish hyper mood where I REALLY enjoyed typing all that out XP.

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd January 2009, 8:57 PM
Did you? Whatever, it still weeds out any leftovers XP

If Kakashi isn't dead, Kishi is performing a major copout...and that's retarded.

FYI, I didn't go to sleep last night...So I'm in that freakish hyper mood where I REALLY enjoyed typing all that out XP.

If Kakashi lives, he will not be able to be a shinobi eva again.

LOL, why didn't you sleep last night? if i may ask.

Horoika1
2nd January 2009, 9:05 PM
Thank you Shinobi Pachirisu, much needed.

Heaven, you changed your avatar so many times in one day. It was a Zapdos a while ago..now it's Venusaur, again.

LonesomeDiamond
2nd January 2009, 9:08 PM
This past week I've been trying to make it to a full day awake(24 hours). I've failed every time(fallen asleep and woke up VERY LATE), but the one night where I'm not really making an effort and I'm just doing things that I would normally do...I find it easier to stay up...So I just rolled w/ it, and I'm still up.

It's a weird feeling, cuz' you feel like you were absent for awhile and actually got that sleep...but you didn't XP

ANYWAYS *stuff about naruto*

Yeah...Ninjas...Katon Goukakyuu No Posutu Fira!(Post Filler) XP

uber gon
2nd January 2009, 9:38 PM
Wonder if Gamakichi will showcase some new jutsu.:)

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd January 2009, 9:55 PM
Horoika, cuz i want a Venausaur Avatar from the Anime. But i don't think there's any.

LOL SP.

UG, Gamakichi will probably have one Jutsu that he will use with either Naruto or one of the other frogs.

HoennMaster
2nd January 2009, 11:22 PM
also, you think the Ichiraku ramen lady and old guy survived?

Of course they did, the plot falls apart without them.

HoennMaster
2nd January 2009, 11:24 PM
also, you think the Ichiraku ramen lady and old guy survived?

Of course they did, the plot falls apart without them.

Sapphiredragon929
2nd January 2009, 11:45 PM
Kakashi may or may not be dead...but then again with Tsunade's huge chest anything can be healed....he's a perv right???

And Katsuyu preotected Kakashi meaning that there may be a chance that he's alive....and can be saved

Sapphiredragon929
2nd January 2009, 11:46 PM
Kakashi may or may not be dead...but then again with Tsunade's huge chest anything can be healed....he's a perv right???

And Katsuyu preotected Kakashi meaning that there may be a chance that he's alive....and can be saved

LonesomeDiamond
3rd January 2009, 3:24 AM
Did you not read what I said? And anyways, Katsuya came to Kakashi AFTER he had nail put in his head(aka, TOO LATE)...yet again, It doesn't seem like you've even been reading the chapters =_="

Haxon22
3rd January 2009, 4:46 AM
Did you not read what I said? And anyways, Katsuya came to Kakashi AFTER he had nail put in his head(aka, TOO LATE)...yet again, It doesn't seem like you've even been reading the chapters =_="

Doesn't matter wat you said, Kakashi is too much of an important character to die this early, Plus Tsunade seal on her forehead is gone, thus meaning she may have saved Kakashi as well

Horoika1
3rd January 2009, 4:47 AM
I don't ever recall Katsuyu being on top of Kakashi.

I do remember seeing Katsuyu getting off of Choza (recent chapter), but not Kakashi.


Haxon: Early? This is not early. This is better said the "beginning of the end".

Haxon22
3rd January 2009, 5:11 AM
^^ Well considering that Madara and Sasusake is still on the loose, I consider this the beginning

Sapphiredragon929
3rd January 2009, 5:22 AM
Did you not read what I said? And anyways, Katsuya came to Kakashi AFTER he had nail put in his head(aka, TOO LATE)...yet again, It doesn't seem like you've even been reading the chapters =_="

But to send Katsuyu to Kakashi does suggest that he may not be that far from saving. There's a huge possibility that's he dead. I'm not disagreeing with your opinion, I'm just pointing out that these are the same guys that pulled a filler arc. campiagn for almost 1 ********** year. I'm sure they may pull the wool over our eyes and suckerscrew us again.

And by the way Suckerscrew is my word...use it and I'll smite you.

Horoika1
3rd January 2009, 5:39 AM
^^ Well considering that Madara and Sasusake is still on the loose, I consider this the beginning

...of the end. Lol

Compared to Naruto Manga Chapter 1, we are nearing the end of the series.


EDIT: Suckscrew. I'm suicidal, smite me! Loljk...or am I?

LonesomeDiamond
3rd January 2009, 6:21 AM
Then we agree, Sapphiredragon. Like I said, if Kakashi lives(after catching up w/ his dead dad) it's gonna be a retarded copout. Trying to please the "fans" and making the story suffer. Oh, and I don't think Kishi had anything to do w/ the filler...and that's why it sucked so much. (If he did the character designs and the stories were run past him...the filler wouldve probably been good)

And Haxon...did you read my explanation at all? Do you read the MANGA at all? And yeah...this IS the end...the beginning of the end. This is the PERFECT time to kill off important characters.

Haxon22
3rd January 2009, 7:13 AM
^^ ok yes I kinda agree that it is the beginning of the end, however obv. the pain saga is gonna be a long one, plus like I said before, Madara and Sauskae are still alive. Plus Killerbee and the Ninja's of the Thunder village or wherever there from.

LonesomeDiamond
3rd January 2009, 7:36 AM
And Kakashi has what to do w/ all of that how?! Seriously, when was Kakashi ever even relevent anyways? (His backstory was awesome...but never relevent to the real happenings of the series, besides the Minato stuff.)

Lucario At Service
3rd January 2009, 8:20 AM
Did you not read what I said? And anyways, Katsuya came to Kakashi AFTER he had nail put in his head(aka, TOO LATE)...yet again, It doesn't seem like you've even been reading the chapters =_="
When did Kakashi get hit by a nail in the head. Kakashi saved himself from the nail God Realm Pain flicked at him by using his MS jutsu "Kamui" similar to how he saved Chouji from the attack of Demon Realm Pain (check ch 424).
Kakashi is presently in that situation because he used up all of his chakra by using powerful jutsu's like 3 Chidori's, a Lighting Clone, a Lighting Dog, & using "Kamui" twice & some more unknown jutsu's.
As for talking to his dad part it could meam either that he is dead or that he is in between life & dead (sort of coma). We have seen this kind of thing happen before also & the most popular one of those is the Harry Potter series where we saw Harry enter a stage of temporary death. So i am neutral about Kakashi death & life chance as of now. But mostly propably i think we would see him alive.
Also Tsunade's not answering Chouji's question about whether Kakashi is alive or not doesn't exactly mean that Kakashi is dead. It might mean that she is herself not sure whether he could survive or not.

uber gon
3rd January 2009, 8:44 AM
Of course they did, the plot falls apart without them.

Plus what will the primary food source be for Naruto if they were gone? popscicles?

Haxon22
3rd January 2009, 8:57 AM
When did Kakashi get hit by a nail in the head. Kakashi saved himself from the nail God Realm Pain flicked at him by using his MS jutsu "Kamui" similar to how he saved Chouji from the attack of Demon Realm Pain (check ch 424).
Kakashi is presently in that situation because he used up all of his chakra by using powerful jutsu's like 3 Chidori's, a Lighting Clone, a Lighting Dog, & using "Kamui" twice & some more unknown jutsu's.
As for talking to his dad part it could meam either that he is dead or that he is in between life & dead (sort of coma). We have seen this kind of thing happen before also & the most popular one of those is the Harry Potter series where we saw Harry enter a stage of temporary death. So i am neutral about Kakashi death & life chance as of now. But mostly propably i think we would see him alive.
Also Tsunade's not answering Chouji's question about whether Kakashi is alive or not doesn't exactly mean that Kakashi is dead. It might mean that she is herself not sure whether he could survive or not.

I Couldn't have responded to that more perfectly, well done lucario.

There's no way that Kakashi is dead yet. Like Lucario said he's prolly at the edge of life and death

lucky_u
3rd January 2009, 9:56 AM
When did Kakashi get hit by a nail in the head. Kakashi saved himself from the nail God Realm Pain flicked at him by using his MS jutsu "Kamui" similar to how he saved Chouji from the attack of Demon Realm Pain (check ch 424).
Kakashi is presently in that situation because he used up all of his chakra by using powerful jutsu's like 3 Chidori's, a Lighting Clone, a Lighting Dog, & using "Kamui" twice & some more unknown jutsu's.
As for talking to his dad part it could meam either that he is dead or that he is in between life & dead (sort of coma). We have seen this kind of thing happen before also & the most popular one of those is the Harry Potter series where we saw Harry enter a stage of temporary death. So i am neutral about Kakashi death & life chance as of now. But mostly propably i think we would see him alive.
Also Tsunade's not answering Chouji's question about whether Kakashi is alive or not doesn't exactly mean that Kakashi is dead. It might mean that she is herself not sure whether he could survive or not.

I think you mean Kakashi experienced near death experience. I thought of that, and besides Tsunade had to check for medical books some times, meaning she can't possibly confirmed about everything. But, she still know how to identify someone is dead or not. We shall wait and see whether Kakashi survived. Btw, how did Kakashi used 3 Chidori and Kamui? He already used half of his chakra on Lightning Clone.

Lucario At Service
3rd January 2009, 11:19 AM
Btw, how did Kakashi used 3 Chidori and Kamui? He already used half of his chakra on Lightning Clone.
Well it was said that after the use of Lightning Clone his Chakra was at his half point level (till that time he had already used 2 Chidori's & a Lightning Dog). He used the 3rd one when Chouji & his father has successfully tied GD Pain in the chains.
Also presently Kamui is the only technique Kakashi has which uses his most chakra (i think it would be equal to around more than 3 Chidori's according to me) & as we have seen that Kakashi can use 'Kamui' 2-3 times if he hasn't use any other techniques other than it (his fight against Deidara).
If you are talking about Kakashi's Chakra limit, it is said that he has increased his Chakra capabilities during the time of the time-skip (this is also proved by the fact that he used nearly 6 Chidori's during his fight against Hidan & Kakuza {before the time-skip he had the ability to only use 4 Chidori's to the max} & still had energy to fight & use other technique's).

~Heaven Help Us~
3rd January 2009, 3:28 PM
Kakashi never got hit by a nail, he died of overuse of the MS.

Horoika1
3rd January 2009, 5:40 PM
And Kakashi said it himself that if he uses Kamui one more time, he will die.

Mawile XD
3rd January 2009, 7:31 PM
Look, people, stop arguing. Kakashi may be dead because there's no point in writing a touching goodbye, and he could live if he gets chakra from Katsuyu... He has no fatal injuries, so theoretically he could be brought back if he got chakra in time.

I'm not going to argue, I'll just wait and see what happens. Because nobody but Kishimoto knows what's happened.

Mawile XD
3rd January 2009, 7:31 PM
darn lag...

Horoika1
3rd January 2009, 7:45 PM
Well, according to OneManga, there won't be a chapter this coming week -.-

bookist
3rd January 2009, 11:53 PM
how unfortunate well maybe the next chapter will be more epic.

Horoika1
4th January 2009, 5:17 AM
What is this now? Bi-Weekly Chapters???

I'm praying for a double-chapter.

LonesomeDiamond
4th January 2009, 5:53 AM
If Kakashi lives, I think Kishi is ignoring his own theme. That's just dumb. When Asuma died AND when Jiraiya died, they made a huge point about how Naruto and the others need to mature and fend for themselves. They must exceed their masters. If you ask me, the most efficient way to MAKE them do that, would be for Kakashi to die. He held them up more than anyone throughout the series.(Even if he went to the hospital alot)

...I just checked the chapter, and either I'm passing over it or...It never said(or showed) him get rid of the nail w/ his Mangekyou...But before he uses it to help Chouji, he says "use it again"...So I don't know.

Oh, and we won't be getting two chapters. One Manga has something about that on their front page. That would be pointless to do anyways.

"Hey Kishi! You get this week off, but next week you gotta do double the load! Seeya later!"

lucky_u
4th January 2009, 9:40 AM
Well it was said that after the use of Lightning Clone his Chakra was at his half point level (till that time he had already used 2 Chidori's & a Lightning Dog). He used the 3rd one when Chouji & his father has successfully tied GD Pain in the chains.
Also presently Kamui is the only technique Kakashi has which uses his most chakra (i think it would be equal to around more than 3 Chidori's according to me) & as we have seen that Kakashi can use 'Kamui' 2-3 times if he hasn't use any other techniques other than it (his fight against Deidara).
If you are talking about Kakashi's Chakra limit, it is said that he has increased his Chakra capabilities during the time of the time-skip (this is also proved by the fact that he used nearly 6 Chidori's during his fight against Hidan & Kakuza {before the time-skip he had the ability to only use 4 Chidori's to the max} & still had energy to fight & use other technique's).

I thought Kakashi used 4 Chidori with Sharingan on during his fight with Hidan & Kakuza(and one without Sharingan). I think he's definitely increased chakra limit. I don't think Kamui=3 Chidori though, maybe one and a half.

~Heaven Help Us~
4th January 2009, 4:12 PM
I thought Kakashi used 4 Chidori with Sharingan on during his fight with Hidan & Kakuza(and one without Sharingan). I think he's definitely increased chakra limit. I don't think Kamui=3 Chidori though, maybe one and a half.

how will the half be?

HoennMaster
5th January 2009, 10:19 AM
What is this now? Bi-Weekly Chapters???

I'm praying for a double-chapter.

No, even manga takes a holiday break.

Horoika1
5th January 2009, 10:47 PM
No, even manga takes a holiday break.

On the 2nd week of January? What holiday do they celebrate in January?

Viva la Vida
6th January 2009, 3:39 AM
likely, Kakashi will appear when we least expect it and save Naruto's ***.

LonesomeDiamond
6th January 2009, 3:44 AM
No...That isn't likely AT ALL...First of all, Naruto won't be needing it(I'm sure he's beyond Kakai now)...and that would just be dumb =.=

Horoika1
6th January 2009, 4:09 AM
OMG, hurry up Kishimoto. Confirm Kakashi's death, this "speculating" (which is wrong) is tiring.

~Heaven Help Us~
6th January 2009, 3:32 PM
But Horoika, didn't you say that you were right? That he's dead?

uber gon
6th January 2009, 6:05 PM
Hopefully Naruto uses wind clones. That'd be f'in sweet.:)

LonesomeDiamond
6th January 2009, 9:46 PM
HHU, that's what he meant. There is no point to this speculating, cuz' he's ****ing dead. I'm really sick of it too, stop whining about it people =__="...

What would a Wind clone do? Destroy it, and get hit w/ a burst of air? Oh my!

Horoika1
6th January 2009, 10:51 PM
You seem like you're angry Shinobi lol.

Wind clones have potential, but I think Shadow overpower them.

~Heaven Help Us~
6th January 2009, 11:40 PM
HHU, that's what he meant. There is no point to this speculating, cuz' he's ****ing dead. I'm really sick of it too, stop whining about it people =__="...

What would a Wind clone do? Destroy it, and get hit w/ a burst of air? Oh my!

not hit, but cut.

LonesomeDiamond
6th January 2009, 11:47 PM
Good point @_@

"Tajuu Kage Kaze Bunshin No Jutsu"...sounds kinda weird *shrugs* And if they were just called Kaze Bunshins...it would seem too familiar.

And yeah, Horoika. A little frustrated :\

I really liked that theory earlier where someone said the scroll on Naruto's back could be a transformed bunshin gathering the nature chakra for him...I'm restating it cuz' it would be really cool(and is actually plausible). I don't think Naruto's going to incorporate wind into everything he does, though. Kaze bunshins seem kinda weird...Midair jumps would be cool.

~Heaven Help Us~
6th January 2009, 11:55 PM
I think he will incorporate Kaze chakra into everything he does. I mean it'll suck if he only has the Rasen Shuriken.

LonesomeDiamond
7th January 2009, 12:32 AM
I said midair jumps too! Like, I'd expect him to incorporate it into his movements and stuff, but I don't think he's the type to change ALL of his techniques into wind-based techniques(not that he has very many techniques). Wind-assisted Uzumaki Naruto Rendan would be pretty cool...(but he hasn't done that in forever)

~Heaven Help Us~
7th January 2009, 12:58 AM
Maybe he has a short flight ability? or he can glide! or better fly!

TsukiMirage
7th January 2009, 1:16 AM
likely, Kakashi will appear when we least expect it and save Naruto's ***.

That would be a stupid mistake on Kishi's part, Since he has said time and again that Naruto has already surpassed Jiraiya and the Fourth. So to have Naruto be saved would not only belittle him, But those two also.

LonesomeDiamond
7th January 2009, 1:25 AM
^Very good point. "Yeah, let the half dead weak guy save him!"

If Naruto performs anything similar to flight, I hope he just extends his jumps w/ wind. The way he moves, I think it would suit him more to simulate flight rather than just floating around effortlessly...Like firing bursts of wind chakra from his feet(look back when Sasuke picked up a Kunai w/ his foot)...It would be sweet.

Kakashi-Sharingan Warrior
7th January 2009, 2:00 AM
hmm...the scroll being a shadow clone collecting natural energy is a good idea...Also, remember what Pa said, "it's like looking left and right at the same time"....didn't Kakashi say that before, and what was Naruto's answer? Shadow Clones!

Haxon22
7th January 2009, 2:38 AM
Which would obv be affective smartass <_<

LonesomeDiamond
7th January 2009, 3:19 AM
^ =_=" I don't think he was being sarcastic...Great Job fitting into the group he mentioned in his sig...

Anyways, yeah...Can't wait to see Naruto doin' more stuff...

~Heaven Help Us~
7th January 2009, 5:27 AM
^ =_=" I don't think he was being sarcastic...Great Job fitting into the group he mentioned in his sig...

Anyways, yeah...Can't wait to see Naruto doin' more stuff...

Yeah, like he concentrates his Kaze Chakra on his feet and he flies or levitates.

uber gon
7th January 2009, 5:43 AM
What would a Wind clone do? Destroy it, and get hit w/ a burst of air? Oh my!

Well wind chakra has some extreme cutting power so I'm thinking a Naruto Rendan from Wind clones could be similar to the Rasenshuriken.

Kakashi-Sharingan Warrior
7th January 2009, 9:04 AM
Which would obv be affective smartass <_<

Think you mean Effective. Affective is causing or expressing one's emotions. =3

To be honest though, am I the only one getting a bit fed up with shadow clones? I wonder, just by looking at the chapter....When he destroyed that Asura Pein body with the rasengan, no shadow clones were present, and considering the high level of chakra control that would be needed to learn senjutsu, could that mean Naruto can now use the rasengan without the need of a shadow clone?

Also, I don't think we'll see many new wind-techniques as Naruto was training in Senjutsu, not element training. He might have managed to strengthen some of his techniques by adding senjutsu elements to them, but I doubt we'll see anything new in the wind department.

~Heaven Help Us~
7th January 2009, 3:00 PM
Think you mean Effective. Affective is causing or expressing one's emotions. =3

To be honest though, am I the only one getting a bit fed up with shadow clones? I wonder, just by looking at the chapter....When he destroyed that Asura Pein body with the rasengan, no shadow clones were present, and considering the high level of chakra control that would be needed to learn senjutsu, could that mean Naruto can now use the rasengan without the need of a shadow clone?

Also, I don't think we'll see many new wind-techniques as Naruto was training in Senjutsu, not element training. He might have managed to strengthen some of his techniques by adding senjutsu elements to them, but I doubt we'll see anything new in the wind department.

Yes cuz when he used Rasengan, one was for concentration and the other one was for gathering chakra no?? And since he is using Sage chakra, Naruto is for Concentration and the nature chakra puts in the chakra, right? you get me?

uber gon
7th January 2009, 7:11 PM
Think you mean Effective. Affective is causing or expressing one's emotions. =3

To be honest though, am I the only one getting a bit fed up with shadow clones? I wonder, just by looking at the chapter....When he destroyed that Asura Pein body with the rasengan, no shadow clones were present, and considering the high level of chakra control that would be needed to learn senjutsu, could that mean Naruto can now use the rasengan without the need of a shadow clone?

Also, I don't think we'll see many new wind-techniques as Naruto was training in Senjutsu, not element training. He might have managed to strengthen some of his techniques by adding senjutsu elements to them, but I doubt we'll see anything new in the wind department.

There might be some wind jutsu. We never went in depth to Naruto's training.

Kakashi-Sharingan Warrior
7th January 2009, 7:32 PM
Yeah, but I think if anything he would be focusing more on gathering the natural energy for Senjutsu, which in fact could mean all his current moves become even more powerful. I hope he finds a way to use the Rasenshurikan without messing up his arm >>

~Heaven Help Us~
7th January 2009, 8:45 PM
Yeah, but I think if anything he would be focusing more on gathering the natural energy for Senjutsu, which in fact could mean all his current moves become even more powerful. I hope he finds a way to use the Rasenshurikan without messing up his arm >>

Maybe he can concentrate his Sage Chakra in his arm to create a barrier!

Horoika1
7th January 2009, 10:19 PM
I'm just hoping that Shadow Clones won't be used as much and that Naruto can make a Rasengan with only 1 hand.

I don't think he should fly. Kinda silly somehow...

I hope he'll be able to throw the Rasenshurikan, seems like a bit of a waste of time to me. And that it doesn't mess up his arm.

bookist
7th January 2009, 11:33 PM
Shadow clones are one of his only moves...theyll be used.

~Heaven Help Us~
7th January 2009, 11:36 PM
I'm just hoping that Shadow Clones won't be used as much and that Naruto can make a Rasengan with only 1 hand.

I don't think he should fly. Kinda silly somehow...

I hope he'll be able to throw the Rasenshurikan, seems like a bit of a waste of time to me. And that it doesn't mess up his arm.

He could control all the wind around him to control the rasenshuriken when he throws it. Like he directs it with the wind.

LonesomeDiamond
8th January 2009, 12:11 AM
You guys forget that in order to maintain the circulation of the rasengan, he would have to use chakra threads when he throws it. When he throws the rasengan(or rasenshuriken), it would remain attached to his fingertips by chakra threads. While it travels through the air, he would maintain the circulation by channeling chakra through the threads....If he somehow threw it w/out threads, it would disperse right after it left his hand, because it wouldnt be able to circulate anymore...

I've thought about this before XP

Horoika1
8th January 2009, 2:43 AM
Boy, you do put a lot of thought into this Shinobi...

LonesomeDiamond
8th January 2009, 2:47 AM
Yes I did :D

When the rasenshuriken was first used I thought all this through XP

If Kishi messes this up, I will laugh. Like he forgot how the move was supposed to work.

~Heaven Help Us~
8th January 2009, 4:02 PM
Yeah but with the Chakra threads, some of the Kaze Chakra can travel through them and still hurt his hand.

What i said was better.

LonesomeDiamond
8th January 2009, 8:46 PM
=.=" He doesn't have a weakness to his own chakra. Wind alone CANNOT keep up the rotation of his rasengan in the air. If he is OUTPUTTING chakra through threads into the rasenshuriken, how would anything from the rasenshuriken come back to him? he was hurt by the rasenshuriken because he was HOLDING it when it dispersed. In your scenario, keeping up a rotation would be impossible. And in mine, he's not holding it now is he?!

Jesus christ =____=" (not dealing w/ childish "mine's better" ********)

~Heaven Help Us~
8th January 2009, 9:06 PM
=.=" He doesn't have a weakness to his own chakra. Wind alone CANNOT keep up the rotation of his rasengan in the air. If he is OUTPUTTING chakra through threads into the rasenshuriken, how would anything from the rasenshuriken come back to him? he was hurt by the rasenshuriken because he was HOLDING it when it dispersed. In your scenario, keeping up a rotation would be impossible. And in mine, he's not holding it now is he?!

Jesus christ =____=" (not dealing w/ childish "mine's better" ********)

True -_-'. but still, do you get what i was trying to say?

LonesomeDiamond
8th January 2009, 9:32 PM
yeah, i got that...It would have to be used in tandem w/ threads to work, though...

Horoika1
8th January 2009, 10:08 PM
You really are mad these days Shinobi.

Quite interesting that it's only us commenting on this thread lol.

LonesomeDiamond
8th January 2009, 11:45 PM
Eh, it's better that way(lots of people make me uncomfortable)...and I'm sick(not my excuse)...and easily aggravated.

Wait...Team Gai was off on a mission right? When they return, Pein will get a good *** kicking XP

GO LEE!

Mawile XD
9th January 2009, 12:02 AM
I'm thinking that Neji's Byakugan will trace Pain's real body, right when Naruto's fight with the bodies ends, so that Nagato's forced to flee, and Naruto pursues him, so that he can't make any more bodies... I can completely see Sasuke betraying Madara, as it would make perfect sense, and I predict that after defeating Nagato, Naruto will battle Sasuke, after the latter defeats Madara...

~Heaven Help Us~
9th January 2009, 12:15 AM
I'm thinking that Neji's Byakugan will trace Pain's real body, right when Naruto's fight with the bodies ends, so that Nagato's forced to flee, and Naruto pursues him, so that he can't make any more bodies... I can completely see Sasuke betraying Madara, as it would make perfect sense, and I predict that after defeating Nagato, Naruto will battle Sasuke, after the latter defeats Madara...

You make it sound so easy.

LonesomeDiamond
9th January 2009, 12:15 AM
that seems to soon. It all makes sense, but some other characters have things to put in before Naruto fights Sasuke. Killer Bee(and his Cell), Kabuchimaru(...Kabuto), Kisame, and Zetsu still have some things to do.(Especially since Zetsu has done nothing)

It can't end just yet. There's also the rest of Sasuke's Cell who haven't done much =.= (Suigetsu might finish up Kisame's story for us, and Juugo could end Kabuchimaru)

I think when Sasuke betrays Madara, everyone else will end up fighting too. Perhaps he could completely destroy Akatsuki if he did that. (Suigetsu takes Kisame, Juugo takes Zetsu, and Karin takes Konan if she returns)

Mawile XD
9th January 2009, 1:18 AM
Ah, yes, forgot about Kabuchimaru... Since he said he was going after Sasuke, and he was being taken over, my theory is that he is a feral monster, with Orochimaru's tendencies, but without a dominant mind to guide it, it's simply like Naruto when he goes Four Tails... He WILL be able to think, but his rationality would be down, though he'd be much more powerful... I can't see Orochimaru's flesh containing his mindset, so I believe that it's most likely like an animal... Also, remember that when Kabuto's glasses came off, his eyes began to turn red, and he hurridly replaced them... I think there's more on that...

Horoika1
9th January 2009, 1:37 AM
It would drag on, but Kishimoto is setting up a character that can become the next villain after Akatsuki is destroyed (obviously inevitable): Kabuchimaru.

Because previously, we would see Orochimaru being the main antagonist. Slowly Kishi brought in Akatsuki. Now Akatsuki is the primary villain. Obviously, next is Sasuke, but it'll be short lived because then Naruto vs. Sasuke comes about. The series will either end unless it's dragged on with Kabuchimaru being the next villain.

uber gon
9th January 2009, 4:52 AM
Would it be weird to say that I sympathize with Sasuke?

LonesomeDiamond
9th January 2009, 5:30 AM
Yes.

I think Sasuke will be used to end the series, so Kabuchimaru has to work his way into this early on somehow...and Mawile XD, now I'm thinking about what he'll look like as this goes....sweet.

~Heaven Help Us~
9th January 2009, 2:06 PM
I have a feeling that either the Kabuchimaru thing will be boring

Or

Sasuke will kill him easily because he is in his way.

LonesomeDiamond
9th January 2009, 9:10 PM
You're right. The latter is pretty likely. I just hope he deforms a bit before then and we get a few frames of crazy snake man. XP

uber gon
10th January 2009, 12:00 AM
You're right. The latter is pretty likely. I just hope he deforms a bit before then and we get a few frames of crazy snake man. XP

He'll probably act like Lex Luthor or some other nutcase. Heh, maybe Kabuchimaru could act like the Joker.:p

~Heaven Help Us~
10th January 2009, 12:57 AM
He'll probably act like Lex Luthor or some other nutcase. Heh, maybe Kabuchimaru could act like the Joker.:p

Like the Joker would be tight. At least like Heath Ledger Joker.

LonesomeDiamond
10th January 2009, 2:10 AM
I could definitely see some Joker-esque qualities in his demeanor...but I think his genius will have been deteriorated at that point, so that attribute would be missing. (Yes, Kabuto was a genius, but I think madness will overcome him at some point)

Horoika1
10th January 2009, 3:13 AM
Kabuchimaru doesn't seem like a character that can be developed much. It feels like a side story.

uber gon
10th January 2009, 6:31 AM
I could definitely see some Joker-esque qualities in his demeanor...but I think his genius will have been deteriorated at that point, so that attribute would be missing. (Yes, Kabuto was a genius, but I think madness will overcome him at some point)

He'll probably laugh insanely 90% of the time, that's for sure.

lucky_u
10th January 2009, 6:33 AM
Looks like this manga still have a long way to go. When will this end, seriously?
Feels like Sasuke will show up when Pain is finished.

~Heaven Help Us~
10th January 2009, 3:49 PM
Looks like this manga still have a long way to go. When will this end, seriously?
Feels like Sasuke will show up when Pain is finished.

I'm thinking, like in 2011. Cuz think about it. Theres only 52 chapters a week. and if you take the holidays off and the no chapters for 2 weeks theres like less chapters. so i think Naruto has 150+ chapters to go.

Horoika1
10th January 2009, 5:02 PM
Yeah, I agree. 2010 or 2011 this series will end.

Unless Kabuchimaru become the next antagonist, but it'll feel dragged on...

~Heaven Help Us~
10th January 2009, 5:06 PM
Yeah, I agree. 2010 or 2011 this series will end.

Unless Kabuchimaru become the next antagonist, but it'll feel dragged on...

When i say 2011, i mean mid-end of it ;p

uber gon
10th January 2009, 6:44 PM
When i say 2011, i mean mid-end of it ;p

I'm hoping this doesn't turn into Inuyasha 2.0.

Horoika1
12th January 2009, 12:24 AM
How do you mean uber gon?

LonesomeDiamond
12th January 2009, 12:41 AM
He means long, drawn-out, and full of whiny useless stories. There's a bit of that in Naruto, but I think it's pretty much in the clear when it comes to becoming as bad as that... Kishi doesn't write too much filler into the manga...

Horoika1
12th January 2009, 2:39 AM
I don't think he writes any filler junk.

The animes do, which are ANNOYING!

ak47madden
12th January 2009, 3:57 AM
He means long, drawn-out, and full of whiny useless stories. There's a bit of that in Naruto, but I think it's pretty much in the clear when it comes to becoming as bad as that... Kishi doesn't write too much filler into the manga...

Yeah but Bleach has fillers on like every page

Horoika1
12th January 2009, 9:40 PM
Example please ak47.

Mawile XD
12th January 2009, 10:24 PM
By fillers, I think he/she means useless time-wasting chapters, like killing Allon all over again...

Back to Naruto discussion, please.

LonesomeDiamond
12th January 2009, 11:15 PM
Yeah, Bleach doesn't have filler...I'd say the writing in Bleach is BETTER than Naruto, it just has alot of extraneous characters(which isn't always a bad thing...Kubo's style is good enough for me to accept that)...

...oh, back to Naruto?! XP

I just realized this fight could get so much more epic...Do you think Naruto learned the Ultimate Rasengan? I know he has his Rasenshuriken, but the Ultimate would be so great. And Animal Realm might do some summons again and fight all the toad warriors...(3 of which he already fought)

~Heaven Help Us~
13th January 2009, 1:21 AM
It'd be tight if Naruto would do some combo with Gamakichi that Naruto uses Wind chakra and Gamakichi does Water to make Ice ;D

uber gon
13th January 2009, 7:16 AM
It'd be tight if Naruto would do some combo with Gamakichi that Naruto uses Wind chakra and Gamakichi does Water to make Ice ;D

Yeah it'd be nice if Naruto used some of his wind jutsu along with those toads of his. He did spend time training in toad land after all.

lucky_u
13th January 2009, 7:41 AM
It'd be tight if Naruto would do some combo with Gamakichi that Naruto uses Wind chakra and Gamakichi does Water to make Ice ;D

Now I'm wondering wind + other element=? Thought of wind and earth made sand element, but I can't think of anything else.

off topic.

I wonder the possiblity to do so even there. I mean two different chakra element need to be combined during hand seal, so different ninja meaning it's impossible, let alone a frog ninja and a ninja. I wonder Naruto will send shadow clone to gather information from others, though maybe he will just collect it during the battle.

Horoika1
13th January 2009, 5:22 PM
It'd be tight if Naruto would do some combo with Gamakichi that Naruto uses Wind chakra and Gamakichi does Water to make Ice ;D

I can agree with this. ICE POWER!

uber gon
13th January 2009, 5:38 PM
I can agree with this. ICE POWER!

Isn't that a bit repetitive at this point? Why not some other wind combo.

~Heaven Help Us~
13th January 2009, 9:24 PM
Isn't that a bit repetitive at this point? Why not some other wind combo.

yeah and it's already being done in the fillers of the anime.

edit, i just notice here, (http://img55.onemanga.com/mangas/00000004/000120802/17-18.jpg) that when Naruto uses the Rasengan on Pain, it looks like a Rasenshuriken. right? like look around the Pain body you see that it looks like the Rasenshuriken. And he was working on it.

LonesomeDiamond
14th January 2009, 12:24 AM
It wasn't only in Filler. Remember, Haku had wind and water chakra natures(because he had a kekkei genkai)...Cuz' he used ice.

I don't think thats a rasenshuriken, what you're seeing looks like Pein's clothes...The effects of the rasenshuriken were also more dramatic. We'll see, I guess.(Either way, that was one of the most epic panels in Naruto history XP)

Horoika1
14th January 2009, 4:08 AM
Where was it filler in anime? I don't remember it showing up there...remind me.

uber gon
14th January 2009, 5:25 AM
I don't think thats a rasenshuriken, what you're seeing looks like Pein's clothes...The effects of the rasenshuriken were also more dramatic. We'll see, I guess.(Either way, that was one of the most epic panels in Naruto history XP)

I'm sure there'll be more epic panels in upcoming chapters. I mean there's still Naruto vs. Sasuke.

lucky_u
14th January 2009, 9:50 AM
Isn't that a bit repetitive at this point? Why not some other wind combo.

I think it may be a wind+fire+oil combo,just like Jiraiya did, but it still repetitive.
A lighting+wind combo will be cool, but what will it do? force field generation?
Earth+wind is something that I still can't imagine of.
Water+wind is done already.
I don't think combo is up next. Single-handed finish all Pain bodies may be cooler.

uber gon
14th January 2009, 6:40 PM
I think it may be a wind+fire+oil combo,just like Jiraiya did, but it still repetitive.
A lighting+wind combo will be cool, but what will it do? force field generation?
Earth+wind is something that I still can't imagine of.
Water+wind is done already.
I don't think combo is up next. Single-handed finish all Pain bodies may be cooler.

Maybe Naruto learns to use some uber wide ranged wind jutsu that not only obliterates all of the Pain bodies, but it also does not have any reprucussions for him.

Horoika1
14th January 2009, 6:58 PM
That would be overpowered uber gon.

uber gon
14th January 2009, 7:51 PM
That would be overpowered uber gon.

Meh, it'd be nice if Naruto learned some new, safer wind jutsu.

Horoika1
14th January 2009, 9:01 PM
That yes. But obliterating Pain's bodies, no.

~Heaven Help Us~
14th January 2009, 9:56 PM
Where was it filler in anime? I don't remember it showing up there...remind me.

The ones that are going on right now.

Edit: naruto did learn the UR!!! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v516/BlueBigMac/naruto1.jpg)

Horoika1
15th January 2009, 12:25 AM
That's not ice, is it? Just crystals.

Mawile XD
15th January 2009, 1:06 AM
Where are the Naruto spoilers? Just curious...

LonesomeDiamond
15th January 2009, 2:19 AM
Yaye, Ultimate Rasengan! And he impaled two summons w/ it! That's awesome.

The next page has alot of frogs on it, so I guess they means they will be doing stuff in all this.

~Heaven Help Us~
15th January 2009, 2:57 AM
Where are the Naruto spoilers? Just curious...

on Mangahelpers. just google it.

Horoika1
15th January 2009, 2:57 AM
Ultimate Rasengan? Has he done it before or is that the name we are giving it?

EDIT: Cool, rank up.

~Heaven Help Us~
15th January 2009, 3:00 AM
Ultimate Rasengan? Has he done it before or is that the name we are giving it?

UR is that really really big Rasengan that Jiraiya did while fighting Pain. You probably think of the Oodama Rasengan.

Horoika1
15th January 2009, 3:25 AM
Ohhhhh! That Ultimate Rasengan.

uber gon
15th January 2009, 4:23 AM
Ohhhhh! That Ultimate Rasengan.

Think of it as the Raengan that killed late Itachi's ripoff clone.

Wonder how Naruto is able to make two consecutively?

Lucario At Service
15th January 2009, 7:55 AM
Ohhhhh! That Ultimate Rasengan.
According to MH that is Naruto's new jutsu & it is named "Senpou Oodama Rasengan"
Also it seems that the upcoming chapter mostly contains 'Naruto & Frogs' Vs 'Animal Realm Pain'. And also it might be possible that we would see Tsunade's real faces in this chapter or the upcoming ones because it seems that the side-effect of her Seal Jutsu has started to take action on her.
Also it seems that at the last page of the chapter Naruto gathers a hell lot of nature energy to use for maybe his Shadow Clones (thats what the hand sign looks like to me).

uber gon
15th January 2009, 6:33 PM
According to MH that is Naruto's new jutsu & it is named "Senpou Oodama Rasengan"
Also it seems that the upcoming chapter mostly contains 'Naruto & Frogs' Vs 'Animal Realm Pain'. And also it might be possible that we would see Tsunade's real faces in this chapter or the upcoming ones because it seems that the side-effect of her Seal Jutsu has started to take action on her.
Also it seems that at the last page of the chapter Naruto gathers a hell lot of nature energy to use for maybe his Shadow Clones (thats what the hand sign looks like to me).

What does THAT Rasengan mean in english? Double Ultimate Rasengan?

LonesomeDiamond
15th January 2009, 7:03 PM
Is it just me or are there too many rasengans? It's cool, but it sort of takes away from the awesomeness of it when there are so many variations. Hm, at least Naruto is the only person left to use it.

Yeah, I was thinking about seeing Tsunade's face soon too.

Wait, a hand sign like the kage bunshin sign? From what we've already seen...Do you think we might get our new variation of the Kage bunshins now? If he does something SIMILAR, but not the same...I think it means something new.

Horoika1
15th January 2009, 7:17 PM
So was I. I am really waiting to see Tsunade's real face.

Lucario At Service
15th January 2009, 7:51 PM
What does THAT Rasengan mean in english? Double Ultimate Rasengan?
As much as i know of "Oodama Rasengan" means "Great Sphere Rasengan". So now we only have to find the meaning of "Senpou" to know what the whole name of the attack is.
Also here is a pic from the upcoming chapter which shows Naruto & Hungry Realm Pain fighting (this pic is an interesting one).
http://i40.*******.com/rr8ioi.jpg
Also here are some translated info from the upcoming chapter (note that it might not have been properly translated)
Naruto: Although I know itís not a good time to ask right now, but after learning how to gather natural energy,
I can feel the chakra of everyone in the village

Tsunade:...

Naruto:Is Kakashi sensei doing a mission right now? (literal is kakashi outside doing a mission)

Tsunade:...

Fukasaku:...

Naruto:...
So itís like thatÖ

Gamakichi, up (leave?)

Pein: Summoning Jutsu
----------------------------------------------------------
Pain: Should've been able to dodge that...

Fukasaku: Kawazu Kumite makes use of the surrounding natural energy. The energy becomes part of Naruto's body and attacks Pain.

Fukasaku: Under Sennin mode, the sense of danger and the range of attack complements each other.

Naruto: Let's end this with my new jutsu!

Sidetext: Wave of anger!!!

Bottom text: Naruto's new jutsu is!? Next chapter: The Great Battle Royal continues.

ak47madden
15th January 2009, 9:19 PM
Is it just me or are there too many rasengans? It's cool, but it sort of takes away from the awesomeness of it when there are so many variations. Hm, at least Naruto is the only person left to use it.

Yeah, I was thinking about seeing Tsunade's face soon too.

Wait, a hand sign like the kage bunshin sign? From what we've already seen...Do you think we might get our new variation of the Kage bunshins now? If he does something SIMILAR, but not the same...I think it means something new.

Not really because Naruto doesn't have many jutsus. All he has basically is the variation of shadow clones and rasengans.

~Heaven Help Us~
15th January 2009, 9:57 PM
As much as i know of "Oodama Rasengan" means "Great Sphere Rasengan". So now we only have to find the meaning of "Senpou" to know what the whole name of the attack is.
Also here is a pic from the upcoming chapter which shows Naruto & Hungry Realm Pain fighting (this pic is an interesting one).
http://i40.*******.com/rr8ioi.jpg
Also here are some translated info from the upcoming chapter (note that it might not have been properly translated)
Naruto: Although I know itís not a good time to ask right now, but after learning how to gather natural energy,
I can feel the chakra of everyone in the village

Tsunade:...

Naruto:Is Kakashi sensei doing a mission right now? (literal is kakashi outside doing a mission)

Tsunade:...

Fukasaku:...

Naruto:...
So itís like thatÖ

Gamakichi, up (leave?)

Pein: Summoning Jutsu
----------------------------------------------------------
Pain: Should've been able to dodge that...

Fukasaku: Kawazu Kumite makes use of the surrounding natural energy. The energy becomes part of Naruto's body and attacks Pain.

Fukasaku: Under Sennin mode, the sense of danger and the range of attack complements each other.

Naruto: Let's end this with my new jutsu!

Sidetext: Wave of anger!!!

Bottom text: Naruto's new jutsu is!? Next chapter: The Great Battle Royal continues.

yes, cuz it looks like he hit that Pain body with Wind Chakra.


he prorably gather alot of Chakra to use the Tajuu Kage Bunshins and have them be already in Sage Mode. (http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss335/usmanani/2373d2abb50b45f343xr1.png)

uber gon
15th January 2009, 10:03 PM
Wonder if this'll be a sage mode/wind chakra combination jutsu? That be awesome.

Horoika1
15th January 2009, 10:05 PM
As much as i know of "Oodama Rasengan" means "Great Sphere Rasengan". So now we only have to find the meaning of "Senpou" to know what the whole name of the attack is.
Also here is a pic from the upcoming chapter which shows Naruto & Hungry Realm Pain fighting (this pic is an interesting one).
http://i40.*******.com/rr8ioi.jpg
Also here are some translated info from the upcoming chapter (note that it might not have been properly translated)
Naruto: Although I know itís not a good time to ask right now, but after learning how to gather natural energy,
I can feel the chakra of everyone in the village

Tsunade:...

Naruto:Is Kakashi sensei doing a mission right now? (literal is kakashi outside doing a mission)

Tsunade:...

Fukasaku:...

Naruto:...
So itís like thatÖ

Gamakichi, up (leave?)

Pein: Summoning Jutsu
----------------------------------------------------------
Pain: Should've been able to dodge that...

Fukasaku: Kawazu Kumite makes use of the surrounding natural energy. The energy becomes part of Naruto's body and attacks Pain.

Fukasaku: Under Sennin mode, the sense of danger and the range of attack complements each other.

Naruto: Let's end this with my new jutsu!

Sidetext: Wave of anger!!!

Bottom text: Naruto's new jutsu is!? Next chapter: The Great Battle Royal continues.

Just want to make sure, even though you're rarely wrong. Is that pic confirmed?

~Heaven Help Us~
15th January 2009, 10:14 PM
Just want to make sure, even though you're rarely wrong. Is that pic confirmed?

Yep, it says so on MH.

HoennMaster
16th January 2009, 4:18 AM
It's great to be back. This looks like it will be a good chapter. It's nice to see Naruto finally fighting. He looks great in those clothes.

Horoika1
16th January 2009, 5:04 AM
Yeah. Naruto is becoming a very auspicious character now.

Lucario At Service
16th January 2009, 9:16 AM
The chapter is good with all that action. The fact that God Realm Pain would have to wait to recover because of using that jutsu is a bit suprising to me.

I am a bit confused about Naruto can sense everyones chakra after training for sage arts. It felt similar to how in Dragon Ball Z, Goku after his training in the gravity chamber during his journey to Namek was able to read peoples mind easily.
Also the fact that Naruto didn't ask about Neji & Lee to Tsunade means that could he have sensed them aswell which might mean that they are near Konoha by now.

Raging Flame
16th January 2009, 10:41 AM
It is finally official. Kakashi is dead.

Well...Crazy things could happen. Garaa was dead wasent he? ;)

HoennMaster
16th January 2009, 2:14 PM
It was a good chapter, seems like another Pain is going down. Also, we do start to see Tsunade's hand start to get old, so maybe we see her real face.

Kakashi-Sharingan Warrior
16th January 2009, 3:29 PM
It is finally official. Kakashi is dead.

Well...Crazy things could happen. Garaa was dead wasent he? ;)

Gaara was indeed dead, but considering the vast amount of casualties Konoha has suffered due to Pein, I doubt Tsunade would give her life to bring back one jonin.

I have to say, this week's chapter was really good, Naruto is actually really strong now - Makes Jiraiya and Kakashi look terrible week though. Then again, I guess Pein's weakness would be once you know what his bodies can do, they are easily countered.

Blaziryu
16th January 2009, 4:38 PM
This week's chapter was great!! Naruto completely owned Pain's summonings & Ghost Realm Pain. I bet his new jutsu is like a Super Spirit Bomb size Rasengan.

timoteyo7
16th January 2009, 5:26 PM
0.0 Finally Kishimoto you made Naruto a badass character...

uber gon
16th January 2009, 6:44 PM
Anyone here think it's weird Katsuyu is a boy apparently? I thought he was a she, but then again slugs are probably hermaphoditic, so it's no big deal.

Kakashi-Sharingan Warrior
16th January 2009, 6:52 PM
Aren't slugs IRL hermapherdites (sp?) so Katsuya would be both.

uber gon
16th January 2009, 6:59 PM
Aren't slugs IRL hermapherdites (sp?) so Katsuya would be both.

Most likely. Heh, maybe he/she will have a change of voice once Shippuden airs in the states.