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HoennMaster
29th September 2009, 6:06 AM
It just started for goodness sake's. How is it dragging on. for goodness sake's the Kage meeting was over in two chapters!

TsukiMirage
29th September 2009, 6:34 AM
I find it hard to believe that Ao is the enemy here when he is one of the few people who had the guts to stand up to a tyrant like Danzo. Danzo hasn't done anything worthy of being called a tyrant and Ao needs to remember his place. He isn't equal to Danzo in either position or strength. It'll be different if it was one of the Kages, But he's just a guard.


The only Kage I can see posing a threat to Sasuke would have to be the Raikage as we have already seen him best Sasuke many times. Other than that, I don't think they can do much except watch. I agree, The Raikage was probably the biggest threat to Sasuke aside from Danzo. Unfortunately, I think we got all we're gonna get from the Raikage. I can't see us going back and having a repeat of the last couple of chapters.

HoennMaster
29th September 2009, 8:45 AM
I'm not counting any of them out except for Tsuchikage. I'm sure Gaara is still as strong as ever, and the Mizukage comes off as a powerful ninja.

Shadow Lucario
29th September 2009, 8:49 AM
I'm not counting any of them out except for Tsuchikage. I'm sure Gaara is still as strong as ever, and the Mizukage comes off as a powerful ninja.

Well Sasuke has beaten Gaara already and now he doesn't have the Shukaku. The Shukaku was the only way he could have beaten Sasuke. Also, Gaara was easily defeated by Deidara who could not kill Sasuke no matter how much he tried

Lorde
29th September 2009, 8:53 AM
Danzo hasn't done anything worthy of being called a tyrant and Ao needs to remember his place. He isn't equal to Danzo in either position or strength. It'll be different if it was one of the Kages, But he's just a guard.


I see, you make a good point. But seeing as Danzo has a broken arm and a damaged Sharingan, I choose to believe that for now, they are both on equal ground.

Ao does have a Byakugan. That is helpful in battle. He also detected the Genjutsu that Madara used on Yagura apparently. Aside from that, he was chosen to be the Mizukage's escort. That counts for something.

HoennMaster
29th September 2009, 9:08 AM
Well Sasuke has beaten Gaara already and now he doesn't have the Shukaku. The Shukaku was the only way he could have beaten Sasuke. Also, Gaara was easily defeated by Deidara who could not kill Sasuke no matter how much he tried

It's called a WTF moment. :) There have been plenty. One of the Kages could pull one off.

TsukiMirage
29th September 2009, 9:43 AM
I'm not counting any of them out except for Tsuchikage. I'm sure Gaara is still as strong as ever, and the Mizukage comes off as a powerful ninja. They very well are strong, But only the Raikage and possibly Danzo have shown a counter to the Hax known as Sharingan.


I see, you make a good point. But seeing as Danzo has a broken arm and a damaged Sharingan, I choose to believe that for now, they are both on equal ground.

Ao does have a Byakugan. That is helpful in battle. He also detected the Genjutsu that Madara used on Yagura apparently. Aside from that, he was chosen to be the Mizukage's escort. That counts for something. Danzo's Sharingan and arm appears to work well enough in battle for him, Although they were used against weaker foes. Danzo still has two Anbu on his side and it's very likely the Byakugan affects Ao the same as the Sharingan affects Danzo and Kakashi, Requiring alot of chakra to maintain. He may be strong, But it's unknown how the villages various ninjas stack up to each other. He may have also have been chosen because of is sensory abilities.

Credits: on3word, HPTR Fangirl
Source: NF

Just English:-

Briefly, from Nja
Mizukage Vs. Sasuke. Sasuke guards with Susano'o against Youton Youkai no Jutsu (TN: Lava Release Solution Jutsu), but takes a blow Hiramekarei (Chojuro's Sword), keeping him in the room with Mizukage.
Mizukage has 2 Kekkei Genkai it seems, Futton (TN: Boil Release)
From her mouth, she plans to melt/dissolve Sasuke using a strong mist of acid
His chakra-exhausted arm begins to melt, but Zetsu's with Houshi no Jutsu (TN: Spore Technique) he grows/springs from Mizukage's body and absorbs her chakra. Sasuke's chakra is restored and uses Susano'o to destroy the room.

(He) escapes as Tsuchikage and his escort are binded. Tsuchikage: "I guess we must do something too now" as they escape from Zetsu's ability. A jutsu that decomposes at the molecular level is used on Sasuke, but Sasuke gets rid of/erases the technique.

Raikage and Gaara return to the conference room.
Madara also appears with Sasuke on his shoulder.
Madara: "I've come to tell you all, and have you listen to my Eye of the Moon plan."
The places I focus on, I covered, so that's it.

Part 2:

Sasuke is disintegrated and Karin also says it looks like Sasuke's chakra has been depleted....But after, Madara appears carrying Sasuke on his shoulder.

The acid burned the skin of Sasuke's right arm...he then sees and notices the acid mist, shortly after, he brings out Susano'o to guard from the acid but each and every cell of his body hurts. And with his incomplete Susano'o, wonders how Itachi could have possibly done it...

Out of chakra and in a bad situation, Zetsu appears.

Part 3:

Back to White Zetsu, he fused his body with that of the Mizukage. Zetsu: "To not notice my Houshi no Jutsu, you five Kages aren't what they're hyped up to be huh?" Stealing the Mizukage's chakra, he passes it onto Sasuke.
White Zetsu tries to bind Tsuchikage and his underling, but the Tsuchikage escapes with amazing ease.

Part 4:

Sasuke loses consciousness, but I think that when he awakens (to find himself) carried by someone, he probably will have lost some pride.

Karin: "Sasuke's...his back"
Tsuchikage says something like "you guys will also soon be chased after~" And then Raikage and Gaara pay a visit.

"Where's Sasuke~!?"

Tsuchikage: "He's already disintegrating; he's really the guy that Deidara was done over by huh?"

Afterwards Madara appears.

"After telling you my plan, I want to hear your opinions too" is what he's saying I feel ><

HoennMaster
30th September 2009, 7:49 AM
Sounds kind of like a random chapter.

Lorde
30th September 2009, 7:57 AM
I am not sure if I should believe these spoilers. The spoilers released last Tuesday were fake. I'll wait until tomorrow night.

But if these are real, it will be an interesting chapter indeed.

TsukiMirage
30th September 2009, 10:25 AM
I am not sure if I should believe these spoilers. The spoilers released last Tuesday were fake. I'll wait until tomorrow night.

But if these are real, it will be an interesting chapter indeed. It's been confirmed by several sources. All's that left is for the pictures to come out tomorrow.

Nice to see Zetsu show something.

Lorde
30th September 2009, 10:32 AM
It's been confirmed by several sources. All's that left is for the pictures to come out tomorrow.

Nice to see Zetsu show something.

I've been reading the manga for 3-4 months now and almost every spoiler I've seen before Wednesday is a fake. I hope you see why I choose not to believe this is real, especially since I do not know anyone else who can confirm it's authenticity.

~Heaven Help Us~
30th September 2009, 5:18 PM
So Sasuke had to run. or rather, had to be rescued.

edit: rank up!

TsukiMirage
30th September 2009, 8:41 PM
I've been reading the manga for 3-4 months now and almost every spoiler I've seen before Wednesday is a fake. I hope you see why I choose not to believe this is real, especially since I do not know anyone else who can confirm it's authenticity. Japan is like 12 hours ahead of us, And the spoilers normally come out on their Wednesday/Our Tuesday. Check out MangaHelpers, They have several people to verified spoilers and quickly find out if one is fake.


So Sasuke had to run. or rather, had to be rescued. Well, He did just take on four Kages plus their guards and survive, I say that being help isn't all that bad.

Soruce: NF
Credit: Shounensuki
Verification: Confirmed

466: The great battle behind closed doors!!

The Mizukage leaves her seat: "At least, I will give you a kiss that will melt your heart"Ή
Karin snaps
Choujuurou: "If I don't protect the Mizukage, it will mean inevitable death"
The Mizukage prepares for battle, her right cheek swelling up
The Tsuchikage and Akatsuchi are clinging to the ceiling, seemingly trying to avoid getting involved in the battle
Mizukage: "Lava Release: Melting Apparition Technique²!!" She spits out a liquid
Sasuke uses Susanoo to dodge, but Choujuurou unleashes an attack with Hiramekarei
Sasuke is driven unto the wall
Sasuke used up a considerable amount of chakra with his overuse of Susanoo
The Mizukage manages to raise a closed-off room. (Only the Mizukage and Sasuke are inside)
The Mizukage can use the Fire, Water, and Earth natures
That is why she has two kekkei genkai
The Mizukage forms hand-seals: "Boil Release: Skilled Mist Technique³!!"
Karin and the rest cannot see what is happening in the fight
The Susanoo is unravelling and Sasuke is coughing up blood
Karin can sense his chakra fading
The Mizukage says something like "Seeing a good-looking man break down and crumble breaks my heart~~"
From the Mizukage, Choujuurou, the Tsuchikage, and Akatsuchi comes a sound like 'zuzuzu'... White Zetsu
It seems like some sort of timed formula that Zetsu uses to suck up everyone's chakra
Sasuke is struck by an attack and is recovered by the chakra
He uses Susanoo to break down the closed room and [go back into] the conference room (to Karin's location)
Without seeing anything, the Mizukage uses "Earth Release: Aggravated Rock Technique!!"

The Tsuchikage undoes Zetsu's chakra absorbing technique
Tsuchikage: "This guy was the one who Deidara..." Sasuke's left eye hurts
Tsuchikage: "I don't feel bitter, but... Dust Release: Detachment of the Primitive World Technique**!!"
The attack should have hit him completely, but...

Madara appears, carrying Sasuke on his shoulder.
Madara: "I should explain things for you a bit... Once you understand, I would like to ask you something"
Raikage: "What!?"
Madara: "It's about my goal, the Eye of the Moon Plan"

Ή There's a pun here. The Mizukage uses the word とろける (torokeru) which means 'to be enchanted with,' but sounds a lot like the word 溶ける (tokeru) which means 'to melt'. The kanji that can be used to write torokeru (盪, 蕩) also have the additional meaning 'to melt'. The word she uses for 'at least' (せめて, semete) is pronounced the same as 攻め手 (offence, method of attack).
² Youton: Youkai no Jutsu (溶遁・溶怪の術). This name seems to combine the words 溶解 (dissolution) and 妖怪 (apparition, demon), both pronounced as 'youkai'.
³ Futton: Koumu no Jutsu (沸遁・巧霧の術)
* Doton: Kajuugan no Jutsu (土遁・加重岩の術)
** Jinton: Genkai Hakuri no Jutsu (塵遁・原界剥離の術)

uber gon
30th September 2009, 9:43 PM
Hopefully this will result in some humility within Sasuke. Doubt it though.

Shneak
1st October 2009, 12:06 AM
Awesome! The Mizukage and Tsuchikage fight.

HoennMaster
1st October 2009, 5:03 AM
All Tsuchikage does is release the justu Zetsu is using on Mizukage.

TsukiMirage
1st October 2009, 7:09 AM
All Tsuchikage does is release the justu Zetsu is using on Mizukage. No, He uses a technique on Sasuke and escapes from Zetsu's technique.

Lorde
1st October 2009, 10:34 AM
Hopefully this will result in some humility within Sasuke. Doubt it though.

He needs some humiliation. He is really starting to get on my last nerves. It is always "revenge" this and "my clan" that.

uber gon
2nd October 2009, 12:52 AM
He needs some humiliation. He is really starting to get on my last nerves. It is always "revenge" this and "my clan" that.

Well either way Sasuke is going to get his *** kicked.

sam40400
2nd October 2009, 2:04 AM
This is so sad... Sasuke used to be pretty cool, all his "revenge" and my clan this has completely destroyed his future... Im pretty sure he'll need a miracle to survive this one, but truly, if Itachi was my brother, I'd listen to him and back off. But still, my last amount of respect for the shippuden Sasuke is gone... I wonder if the girls still like him...

Shadow Lucario
2nd October 2009, 2:13 AM
Well either way Sasuke is going to get his *** kicked.

Doubt it. Sasuke went toe to toe with the Raikage who is probably the strongest Kage there.


This is so sad... Sasuke used to be pretty cool, all his "revenge" and my clan this has completely destroyed his future...

He still is cool. Who else storms into a meeting of the Kages and goes head to head with two of them barely getting a scratch?


Im pretty sure he'll need a miracle to survive this one, but truly, if Itachi was my brother, I'd listen to him and back off. But still, my last amount of respect for the shippuden Sasuke is gone... I wonder if the girls still like him...

Doesn't need a miracle, he's got the skill. He even said that Itachi's views were different than his and he wasn't going to follow them no matter what. If he listened to Itachi he would just be a little Itachi. That's what establishes his character. In one episode of Shippuden, Sasuke and Suigetsu were in a restaraunt, Sasuke drinking tea and Suigetsu eating ice cream or dumplings. There was a group of girls cooing over Sasuke. Suigetsu said he must be used to it. Even the Mizukage said he was good looking

Atoyont
2nd October 2009, 2:22 AM
Doubt it. Sasuke went toe to toe with the Raikage who is probably the strongest Kage there.
He ended up paying dearly for it with eye damage and chakra depletion. Gaara's fine and the Raikage... well, he's missing a hand.

He still is cool. Who else storms into a meeting of the Kages and goes head to head with two of them barely getting a scratch?
A person lacking common sense but possessing a potent Kekkei Genkai.

Doesn't need a miracle, he's got the skill. He even said that Itachi's views were different than his and he wasn't going to follow them no matter what. If he listened to Itachi he would just be a little Itachi. That's what establishes his character. In one episode of Shippuden, Sasuke and Suigetsu were in a restaraunt, Sasuke drinking tea and Suigetsu eating ice cream or dumplings. There was a group of girls cooing over Sasuke. Suigetsu said he must be used to it. Even the Mizukage said he was good looking
He's got skill but he also has some tough partners. It's true about his character being reestablished though.

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd October 2009, 3:07 AM
Doubt it. Sasuke went toe to toe with the Raikage who is probably the strongest Kage there.




Sucks to say it, but it's probably Danzou.

TsukiMirage
2nd October 2009, 3:40 AM
Well either way Sasuke is going to get his *** kicked. Nope. The way things are going, Not even Naruto will beat him in a fight, Just convert him.


This is so sad... Sasuke used to be pretty cool, all his "revenge" and my clan this has completely destroyed his future... Im pretty sure he'll need a miracle to survive this one, but truly, if Itachi was my brother, I'd listen to him and back off. But still, my last amount of respect for the shippuden Sasuke is gone... I wonder if the girls still like him... Sasuke has always been about that. I actually enjoy him like this more then that wishy-washy guy from before. His "miracle" is his skills and the Sharingan. Of course he's not gonna listen to Itachi. Quite frankly, Itachi acted like an idiot. To protect Konoha, He allowed two top tier villains to roam around and he didn't even try to stop them. He places all his bets on Sasuke while he continued to push him towards being a villain. There were betters ways he could have did it. Without Sasuke, Shipuuden wouldn't exist.


He ended up paying dearly for it with eye damage and chakra depletion. Gaara's fine and the Raikage... well, he's missing a hand. He went up against several Kages and their guards, Without any knowledge before hand, And survived. That's something very few could do.


A person lacking common sense but possessing a potent Kekkei Genkai. His original intetions wasn't to attack all the Kages. It was because of Zetsu that he had to fight, And that was only to buy time for Karin and test out his MS. Once she located Danzo and he succeed to use Susanoo, He left to complete his mission.

Lorde
2nd October 2009, 3:43 AM
Sucks to say it, but it's probably Danzou.

Yeah most likely. If his damaged Sharingan is able to manipulate people without much effort, I would assume that he could do so much more damage if he really concentrated.

Atoyont
2nd October 2009, 4:01 AM
He went up against several Kages and their guards, Without any knowledge before hand, And survived. That's something very few could do.
And what was the main reason he could survive? The Mangekyou Sharingan.


His original intetions wasn't to attack all the Kages. It was because of Zetsu that he had to fight, And that was only to buy time for Karin and test out his MS. Once she located Danzo and he succeed to use Susanoo, He left to complete his mission.
It seems strange to me that it took Karin that long to figure out where he was. I was under the impression that it didn't take long at all.

And you know what? Danzo probably is the most powerful Kage. Because he has THE SHARINGAN IMAGINE THAT

Shadow Lucario
2nd October 2009, 5:54 AM
Danzo probably is the most powerful Kage. Because he has THE SHARINGAN IMAGINE THAT

The Raikage showed that even if someone has the Sharingan, you can still whoop their ***. Sasuke even used Amaterasu and the Raikage didn't even seem phased when he lost his arm. On top of his Sharingan being damaged, Danzo only has one Sharingan, and, since Danzo isn't Uchiha, the Sharingan puts a strain on his body like Kakashi, limiting his use of the Sharingan.

HoennMaster
2nd October 2009, 7:31 AM
He still is cool. Who else storms into a meeting of the Kages and goes head to head with two of them barely getting a scratch?

Cool and a good fighter are two different things.

Lorde
2nd October 2009, 7:47 AM
The Raikage showed that even if someone has the Sharingan, you can still whoop their ***. Sasuke even used Amaterasu and the Raikage didn't even seem phased when he lost his arm. On top of his Sharingan being damaged, Danzo only has one Sharingan, and, since Danzo isn't Uchiha, the Sharingan puts a strain on his body like Kakashi, limiting his use of the Sharingan.

The Raikage was fueled by hate just like Sasuke is. He probably didn't even notice his arm being burned away by Amaterasu nor did he seem to notice the pain when his arm was lost in his fury.

Ignoring pain doesn't make him cool, it makes him ignorant.

Shadow Lucario
2nd October 2009, 8:21 AM
Ignoring pain doesn't make him cool, it makes him ignorant.

No one said the Raikage was cool. I said he was the strongest Kage there. If he can ignore his arm being burned off by Amaterasu then he must be strong.

Just read the chapter. It was alright. Nothing special. The Tsuchikage's Jutsu looks like a giant ice cube. Looks like the Mizukage is a sexual predator. This chapter proves that Zetsu is awesome. We've known this forever and it is finally proven. Can't wait to hear what the Moon's Eye Plan is.

TsukiMirage
2nd October 2009, 9:11 AM
And what was the main reason he could survive? The Mangekyou Sharingan. It is his best tool, Why not use it. One of the points of him fighting was to figure it out.


It seems strange to me that it took Karin that long to figure out where he was. I was under the impression that it didn't take long at all. The whole fight and everything probably only took a few minutes. And Karin had to watch out for the other sensor ninjas while she searched.

An alright chapter. I dislike the fact that the Mizukage has two bloodline limits. One of them could have just as easily been given to another character. I also don't quite get what the Tsuchikage did with that cube technique. But we finally got to see something new from Zetsu and got to see more of Sasuke fighting, Plus some funny things from Karin, So I'm good.

HoennMaster
2nd October 2009, 9:34 AM
Good chapter, nice to finally see Mizukage and Tsuchikage fight. No one even mentioned Danzo...interesting.

Lorde
2nd October 2009, 9:39 AM
I must admit, I got lost. I couldn't see what was happening most of the time for some reason. A lot going on in these chapters...

Only thing I understood was the acid part.

~Heaven Help Us~
2nd October 2009, 3:41 PM
I like this chapter. Sucks that the fight with Mizukage was cut short. but oh well. Sasuke finally got his *** kicked more.

sam40400
2nd October 2009, 9:36 PM
Doesn't need a miracle, he's got the skill.

You are mosty correct but after battling the raikage, and using the strongest jutsu of the mongakeyo sharingan, hell need real stategy to beat the other kages

edit; Oh so he did lose the fight...

SharpedoX
2nd October 2009, 10:45 PM
Pretty interesting chapter, in my opinion. I'm glad Zetsu finally showed he can perform jutsus. I was getting worried he would never have a fight. A spore jutsu that leeches chakra right? Very fitting and yet so cool. I chuckled when he said the kages were a bunch of fools.

I'm looking forward to hear Madara's plan.

TsukiMirage
2nd October 2009, 11:29 PM
I hope there's more to this arc. I don't want to go back to Naruto and the boringness. Sasuke did quite well against the Kages, And next time he'll massacre them.

MR.3D
3rd October 2009, 12:26 AM
Sasuke = deoxys of naruto
Naruto = rampardos ( very strong for no reason)
Kakashi = Porygon2 (trace)
Sakura = (Roserade)
Sai= Staraptor
Rock lee = sceptile

Shadow Lucario
3rd October 2009, 2:34 AM
Sasuke = deoxys of naruto
Naruto = rampardos ( very strong for no reason)
Kakashi = Porygon2 (trace)
Sakura = (Roserade)
Sai= Staraptor
Rock lee = sceptile

And what does that have to do with anything?

Lorde
3rd October 2009, 2:39 AM
Oh I see now.

So the Mizukage knew how to combine Fire and Earth, then Fire and Water...

So she knows Lava and Boil release. And the Tsuchikage knows Dust and Earth release. Weird but I'm glad I finally know.

TsukiMirage
3rd October 2009, 4:50 AM
Sadly, As impressive as they were, I think the fact that this chapter was so rushed means that Kishi wanted to show their abilities before they disappear into the background ala Rookies.

Lorde
3rd October 2009, 5:41 AM
Sadly, As impressive as they were, I think the fact that this chapter was so rushed means that Kishi wanted to show their abilities before they disappear into the background ala Rookies.

Hmm, I never thought of it like that but I guess you're right.

Most likely the manga will focus on Danzo, Madara, and Naruto from now on.

uber gon
3rd October 2009, 11:24 PM
Wonder if Madara's plan involves the moon the first Rinnegan user made?

Lorde
3rd October 2009, 11:38 PM
Wonder if Madara's plan involves the moon the first Rinnegan user made?

:)

Probably not. What could he do with the Moon? Cause it to collide with Earth? That would be a little too extreme.

uber gon
3rd October 2009, 11:40 PM
:)

Probably not. What could he do with the Moon? Cause it to collide with Earth? That would be a little too extreme.

Is it any more extreme than using demons to make an atomic bomb?

Lorde
3rd October 2009, 11:41 PM
Is it any more extreme than using demons to make an atomic bomb?

An atomic bomb is one thing. It destroys a Hidden Village. If he wants to use the Moon as a weapon, that would destroy the whole world.

Maybe the Moon will become a giant Sharingan....

uber gon
3rd October 2009, 11:47 PM
An atomic bomb is one thing. It destroys a Hidden Village. If he wants to use the Moon as a weapon, that would destroy the whole world.

Maybe the Moon will become a giant Sharingan....

As long as it does NOT become a face like the moon in LoZ: Majora's mask.

Blaziryu
4th October 2009, 5:48 AM
This week's chapter was good. It was good seeing what both the Mizukage & Tsuchikage are made of. So now we've been introduce to 2 new different release jutsus. There's Boil release & Dust release. I can't wait to see more jutsus of these types.

uber gon
4th October 2009, 8:47 AM
This week's chapter was good. It was good seeing what both the Mizukage & Tsuchikage are made of. So now we've been introduce to 2 new different release jutsus. There's Boil release & Dust release. I can't wait to see more jutsus of these types.

Maybe we'll get a gel release.

HoennMaster
4th October 2009, 9:11 AM
I'm actually glad the fight is over for now. I want the meeting to resume.

TsukiMirage
4th October 2009, 9:51 AM
I can't see it resuming. Danzo's gone and soon Akatsuki will reveal there plan which'll make all the Kages run home to make preparations against. Unfortunately, We'll probably go back to Naruto or hopefully see Kisame vs Kirabi.

~Heaven Help Us~
4th October 2009, 5:17 PM
This week's chapter was good. It was good seeing what both the Mizukage & Tsuchikage are made of. So now we've been introduce to 2 new different release jutsus. There's Boil release & Dust release. I can't wait to see more jutsus of these types.

Not really, that's nothing to what they are made of. After all they are Kages.

uber gon
4th October 2009, 10:36 PM
Danzo running off is NOT going to improve Konoha's standing in the world.

Shadow Lucario
4th October 2009, 10:58 PM
All I can say now is that Sasuke is damn cool. Who else fights four Kages and survives? Hell, who fights one and survives?

~Heaven Help Us~
4th October 2009, 11:31 PM
All I can say now is that Sasuke is damn cool. Who else fights four Kages and survives? Hell, who fights one and survives?

Naruto can.


uber, that makes him look rather weak right?

Lorde
5th October 2009, 12:28 AM
Danzo running off is NOT going to improve Konoha's standing in the world.

Most likely. I smell war.


Hell, who fights one and survives?

Madara, Orochimaru, Kakuzu. Each have fought a Kage and each have survived. They aren't cool, they're lucky.

Heck, even Zabuza tried to overthrow a Kage. He survived.

Shadow Lucario
5th October 2009, 12:35 AM
Madara

Kage level shinobi. He was also considered for Hokage.


Orochimaru

Again, he is Kage level and was considered for Hokage. He is also dead.


Kakuzu.

He is practically immortal. Of course he would survive. Also dead.


Heck, even Zabuza tried to overthrow a Kage. He survived.

I'm sure the only reason Zabuza survived is because he was made a rouge ninja. Not only did Sasuke fight four Kages, he fought them one after another without rest. No one else has ever done that, let alone try it.

Lorde
5th October 2009, 12:40 AM
Kage level shinobi. He was also considered for Hokage.

Again, he is Kage level and was considered for Hokage. He is also dead.

He is practically immortal. Of course he would survive. Also dead.

I'm sure the only reason Zabuza survived is because he was made a rouge ninja. Not only did Sasuke fight four Kages, he fought them one after another without rest. No one else has ever done that, let alone try it.

Incase you didn't notice, Sasuke has Kage-level strength. The proof being that he survived the fight against so many Kage as you pointed out. It doesn't change the fact that they each fought a Kage and lived.

I forgot to mention Deidara. He fought a Kage too, as did Sasori. The list goes on and on.

I was answering your question: Who fights one and survives? I gave you an answer. No, a LIST.

Shadow Lucario
5th October 2009, 12:48 AM
I was answering your question: Who fights one and survives? I gave you an answer. No, a LIST.

And funny thing is that only one person on your list is still alive.

Lorde
5th October 2009, 12:56 AM
And funny thing is that only one person on your list is still alive.

Oi.

You asked: "Hell, who fights one and survives?"

Each person I've listed fought a Kage, and survived the fight.

The ones that did die, where killed by different opponents. That does NOT change the fact that they fought a Kage and lived to tell the tale...

Shadow Lucario
5th October 2009, 1:02 AM
Oi.

You asked: "Hell, who fights one and survives?"

Each person I've listed fought a Kage, and survived the fight.

The ones that did die, where killed by different opponents. That does NOT change the fact that they fought a Kage and lived to tell the tale...

Two people you listed, Orochimaru and Kakuzu, have created techniques that would make them immortal. I'll assume you know what immortal means and not go into detail. Madara was on the same level as Hashirama so of course he wouldn't die and again it was said he was immortal. Deidara was stronger than Gaara so there was no way Gaara could kill him and we don't know anything about Zabuza's attempted assassination on the Mizukage, but like I said he probably only survived because he was made a rogue ninja. You said the list goes on. Anyone else you want to name?

Rashdan
5th October 2009, 2:03 AM
Two people you listed, Orochimaru and Kakuzu, have created techniques that would make them immortal. I'll assume you know what immortal means and not go into detail.

Orochimaru is far from immortal. His immortality jutsu involved jumping from body to body to extend his life, but he can still be killed if he's caught off guard, or weakened, something Sasuke took advantage of.

Kakuzu has a similar story. He extends his life by taking other peoples hearts. It's also likely those hearts have limited life spans, and need to be constantly replaced. If he doesn't get any, he dies. Take out his hearts, and he dies. And he did die.

Immortality means you never die, no matter what, and that there's no way to kill you. The above two are imitations of immortality, far from the real thing.

Hidan is what you'd consider immortal. He didn't die even with his head chopped off, and likely hasn't died even after being crushed by the rocks.

Realistically, anyone who's gone toe-to-toe with a Kage is either Kage level or beyond. Sasuke, Naruto, etc. If they weren't, they wouldn't last very long. (I only mention Naruto because he took out all six of Pains bodies, singlehandedly. He did have help initially, but that didn't last long, the frogs weren't of much help after a while; not to mention he has supposedly surpassed both Jiraiya and Minato, both of whom were either a Kage or considered as one).

Shadow Lucario
5th October 2009, 2:19 AM
Doesn't really matter to me anymore. It was more of a rhetorical question anyway. I've gotten my point across that no one else has fought four Kages plus four guards consecutively and not die or become severely injured

Lorde
5th October 2009, 2:19 AM
Two people you listed, Orochimaru and Kakuzu, have created techniques that would make them immortal. I'll assume you know what immortal means and not go into detail. Madara was on the same level as Hashirama so of course he wouldn't die and again it was said he was immortal. Deidara was stronger than Gaara so there was no way Gaara could kill him and we don't know anything about Zabuza's attempted assassination on the Mizukage, but like I said he probably only survived because he was made a rogue ninja. You said the list goes on. Anyone else you want to name?

What does being immortal have to do with that? None of these characters are/were immortal. Duh, if they were, they wouldn't have died.

I answered your question, those people I've named have fought a Kage and they: survived, sobrevivido, superstite a, όberlebt, survιcu, 存続させる.

A bigger list you say? Should I name the people who have survived a battle with someone of Kage-level strength? Since you like that term?

How else can I get my point across?

Shadow Lucario
5th October 2009, 2:24 AM
What does being immortal have to do with that? None of these characters are/were immortal. Duh, if they were, they wouldn't have died.

I answered your question, those people I've named have fought a Kage and they: survived, sobrevivido, superstite a, όberlebt, survιcu, 存続させる.

A bigger list you say? Should I name the people who have survived a battle with someone of Kage-level strength? Since you like that term?

How else can I get my point across?

Like I said in my previous post it was a rhetorical question. And I don't see how I like the term "Kage-level strength". There is nothing that suggests that. Now let's move on to another question. Is there any other character that has faced four Kages plus four of their guards consecutively without any powerups?

Lorde
5th October 2009, 2:27 AM
Like I said in my previous post it was a rhetorical question. And I don't see how I like the term "Kage-level strength". There is nothing that suggests that. Now let's move on to another question. Is there any other character that has faced four Kages plus four of their guards consecutively without any powerups?


If it had been a rhetorical question, you wouldn't have argued it over and over again even with the proof I provided.

You seem to like saying that Madara was equal to Hashirama, i.e. he has Kage-level strength since he survived the fight.

That question was answered by someone else, and I'll repeat: Naruto.

Naruto could fight 4 Kage and win. How? He is the main character, i.e. he is the strongest.

Without Power-Ups? Sasuke had a new-darker version of Susanoo and a new type of Jutsu: Blaze Release.....

Shadow Lucario
5th October 2009, 2:31 AM
Naruto could fight 4 Kage and win.

Without using Sage Mode or the Kyuubi? I doubt it.


Without Power-Ups? Sasuke had a new Susanoo and a new type of Jutsu: Blaze Release.....

Those are not powerups. They do not increase his strength or Chakra in any way. His Chakra remains the same as well as his strength, speed, etc. Also that wasn't the question. I didn't ask can anyone, I asked did anyone. The answer is no. The closest one would be Naruto beating all six Pains, but he had to use Sage Mode and the help of the toads to do that.

EDIT: The reason I argued is because you answered it. Usually rhetorical questions are not answered

TsukiMirage
5th October 2009, 5:15 AM
Danzo running off is NOT going to improve Konoha's standing in the world. Why does Konoha need them. Seriously, They already have done most of the work. It's like some novices running up to a firefighter and offering to help put out a fire after the firefighter has already put most of it out.


Naruto can. Hahaha, That's so funny. But Naruto wouldn't stand a chance. He nearly lost twice against Deva Pain, And that was with knowing Pain's weaknesses. How you think he could fight against the Kages without any knowledge.

Lorde
5th October 2009, 5:29 AM
Hahaha, That's so funny. But Naruto wouldn't stand a chance. He nearly lost twice against Deva Pain, And that was with knowing Pain's weaknesses. How you think he could fight against the Kages without any knowledge.

I find the fact that Sasuke fought 4 Kage with little to no knowledge quite funny.

If I remember correctly, Naruto won that fight in the end. Also, Pain was stronger than a Kage. I mean, destroying a Hidden Village, fighting the Kyuubi, creating a moon, that's intense.

Rashdan
5th October 2009, 5:29 AM
Those are not powerups. They do not increase his strength or Chakra in any way. His Chakra remains the same as well as his strength, speed, etc. Also that wasn't the question. I didn't ask can anyone, I asked did anyone. The answer is no. The closest one would be Naruto beating all six Pains, but he had to use Sage Mode and the help of the toads to do that.


Not power-ups? ... The Sharingan enhances Sasuke's fighting ability greatly, or else it'll have no use whatsoever. The MS takes it even further, and ALLOWS him to use those 3 eye techniques. Not to mention the Susanoo does increase his ability to withstand attacks. Without it, both of the Raikage's attacks would have crushed him.

Without activating the sharingan, he won't be able to predict attacks as well as he could, and avoid it. He also relies on the sharingan for his genjutsu.

The MS is as much a powerup as the Sage mode and the Kyuubi.

Lorde
5th October 2009, 5:35 AM
Not power-ups? ... The Sharingan enhances Sasuke's fighting ability greatly, or else it'll have no use whatsoever. The MS takes it even further, and ALLOWS him to use those 3 eye techniques. Not to mention the Susanoo does increase his ability to withstand attacks. Without it, both of the Raikage's attacks would have crushed him.

Without activating the sharingan, he won't be able to predict attacks as well as he could, and avoid it. He also relies on the sharingan for his genjutsu.

The MS is as much a powerup as the Sage mode and the Kyuubi.

Well the Sharingan helps.

Sasuke's Susanoo doesn't increase his Chakra but it protects him from most attacks and that is just as good. Naruto has little to no defense in normal battles.

Shadow Lucario
5th October 2009, 5:48 AM
Not power-ups? ... The Sharingan enhances Sasuke's fighting ability greatly, or else it'll have no use whatsoever. The MS takes it even further, and ALLOWS him to use those 3 eye techniques. Not to mention the Susanoo does increase his ability to withstand attacks. Without it, both of the Raikage's attacks would have crushed him.

Without activating the sharingan, he won't be able to predict attacks as well as he could, and avoid it. He also relies on the sharingan for his genjutsu.

The MS is as much a powerup as the Sage mode and the Kyuubi.

The Sharingan is a tool. If the ninja is not good enough then the Sharingan becomes useless. It is nothing more than a tool, just like a shuriken

Lorde
5th October 2009, 5:56 AM
Hmm if the Sharingan is a tool, then I suppose the Bijuu are a tool aswell.

I mean, if a ninja cannot control their Bijuu, then the Bijuu is a useless monster.

Charka is also a tool since ninja who cannot manipulate Charka are useless, i.e. the Junior Ninja.

Shadow Lucario
5th October 2009, 6:03 AM
Hmm if the Sharingan is a tool, then I suppose the Bijuu are a tool aswell.

I mean, if a ninja cannot control their Bijuu, then the Bijuu is a useless monster.

There is no correlation between the two. If one possess the Sharingan they will be able to predict their opponent's movements, yes, but if they're body is too slow to react then they cannot dodge their opponent.

The Bijuu on the other hand will give their hosts power if they are in danger of dying. That is a power up because they are gaining power and Chakra while the Sharingan is not a power up as it only lets you see your opponents movements, not dodge them.

TsukiMirage
5th October 2009, 10:30 AM
I find the fact that Sasuke fought 4 Kage with little to no knowledge quite funny. Correction, Sasuke fought one Kage and encountered/attempted to run away from three. I don't see what's so wrong with Sasuke's fighting the Kages.


If I remember correctly, Naruto won that fight in the end. Also, Pain was stronger than a Kage. I mean, destroying a Hidden Village, fighting the Kyuubi, creating a moon, that's intense. Look at the way he won. Naruto was fighting against a tired opponent that not only couldn't kill him, But wanted Naruto to understand his motives enough that he took his time in the fight and play around. Naruto had full insight on Pain's abilities and the help of several boss summons that help him take them out one at a time while the strongest body was useless, But even still was taken down. Naruto was then able to convert Nagato because of their similar pasts and the teachings of Jiraiya.

As oposed, Sasuke's situation was against several people who wanted and attempted to kill him, All at full strength, Who knew most of his abilities and had the prefect counter to his skills. Sasuke went in blind, With the help of two people who were taken out fast. Sasuke then had to content with several more people arriving at full strength, While he was weakening from the first fight. Sasuke was relying on a technique that ate away at his body and sight. Once Sasuke found his target, He attempted to run, Only to encounter several more people at full strength that wanted him dead and would have killed him had Madara not appeared.

Now please point out the part that show where Naruto would be able to win against four Kages?


Not power-ups? ... The Sharingan enhances Sasuke's fighting ability greatly, or else it'll have no use whatsoever. The MS takes it even further, and ALLOWS him to use those 3 eye techniques. Not to mention the Susanoo does increase his ability to withstand attacks. Without it, both of the Raikage's attacks would have crushed him.

Without activating the sharingan, he won't be able to predict attacks as well as he could, and avoid it. He also relies on the sharingan for his genjutsu.

The MS is as much a powerup as the Sage mode and the Kyuubi. Wrong, They're completely different. MS is much worst then either Sage Mode and the Kyuubi. It eats away at his sight and health, And every use takes it's toll during each fight. Sage Mode and the Kyuubi give Naruto chakra and strength without worry, And allows him to keep fighting regardless of the situation. Using MS consecutively will cause Sasuke to run out of chakra quickly, While the opposite happens with Naruto. Now, Naruto's equivalent to MS would be the Kyuubi cloak forms, But he hasn't used them in a long while.

~Heaven Help Us~
5th October 2009, 4:00 PM
Without using Sage Mode or the Kyuubi? I doubt it.



no, using them.

Gentleman Skeleton
5th October 2009, 5:18 PM
Alright, spoilers are surprisingly out now. It's from a reliable source, so until proven otherwise, I believe it.

The Raikage tries to get at Sasuke but Madara sends him away. He later sends Karin away too to heal him.

Madara wanted Sasuke to get enough mastery of the MS to be able to use Susanoo and maybe defeat a couple of the kages. Sasuke-1, Kages-1.

He begins to explain the Eye of the Moon Plan with a long backstory about the Sage of Six Paths.

Seems the nine tailed beasts were once a single entity, the ten-tailed beast. The sage defeated the beast and sealed it in his own body. He then used its massive power to create the moon and sealed the beast there. On his deathbed, he split the beast's power into nine pieces.

It seems the Eye of the Moon Plan involves Madara fusing the nine beasts back into the ten-tails, then sealing it into himself and using the massive chakra to project a massive Tsukuyomi on the moon, ruling the world and creating a world without strife.

This is met with resistance from the kages. Raikage learns his brother is alive. Madara declares war on the five kages.

HoennMaster
5th October 2009, 6:34 PM
Wow, I really hope that part about the Tailed Beast is not true.

Rashdan
5th October 2009, 7:40 PM
Sage Mode and the Kyuubi give Naruto chakra and strength without worry, And allows him to keep fighting regardless of the situation.

Sage mode doesn't, but the Kyuubi does. It shortens his lifespan. That's a worry. Remember how long it took to heal Naruto's skin after 4 tails?
Naruto's version of the sage mode isn't permanent, much like Sasuke's MS. Ideally, sage mode lasts forever, but Naruto's doesn't.

uber gon
5th October 2009, 10:52 PM
Why does Konoha need them. Seriously, They already have done most of the work. It's like some novices running up to a firefighter and offering to help put out a fire after the firefighter has already put most of it out.


Yeah, but if Konoha is in trouble I doubt the other Kages will be so inclined to lend a hand. Heck I doubt Danzo will ever become Hokage at this point.

Shneak
5th October 2009, 11:07 PM
It seems the Eye of the Moon Plan involves Madara fusing the nine beasts back into the ten-tails, then sealing it into himself and using the massive chakra to project a massive Tsukuyomi on the moon, ruling the world and creating a world without strife.


/Pokemon Platinum's plot.

Sort of.

Lorde
6th October 2009, 2:17 AM
/Pokemon Platinum's plot.

Sort of.

Yeah kinda.

This spoiler sounds fishy. Fusing the Bijuu? Casting a Tsukuyomi? It is Monday afterall.

Wouldn't fusing them create a creature with 44 tails not 10 tails?

Cyan
6th October 2009, 3:02 AM
A ten-tailed beast actually sounds pretty awesome to me

Maybe because I keep imagining it as bear

Lorde
6th October 2009, 3:05 AM
A ten-tailed beast actually sounds pretty awesome to me

Maybe because I keep imagining it as bear

It would be interesting. I keep imagining a dragon though. Or a phoenix.

Shadow Lucario
6th October 2009, 3:07 AM
Yeah kinda.

This spoiler sounds fishy. Fusing the Bijuu? Casting a Tsukuyomi? It is Monday afterall.

Wouldn't fusing them create a creature with 44 tails not 10 tails?

Sounds fishy to me too. Don't spoilers come out on Tuesday or Wednesday? Madara really doesn't seem like the person to not want strife in the world. Wasn't that more of Nagato, Jiraiya, and Minato?

If you add up 1-9 then it would be 45, but close enough. That would make more sense to me than the 10 tails. Also, hasn't it been said there have ALWAYS been nine tailed beasts with the Kyuubi being the strongest?

Lorde
6th October 2009, 3:27 AM
I'm just saying, this sounds interesting but spoilers that come out on Mondays are most likely fake.

I might be wrong but I want to wait a little while longer before I start making some more assumptions...

TsukiMirage
6th October 2009, 5:15 AM
If the spoilers true, Then dammit! Two crappy conspiracies confirmed in one chapter.


Sage mode doesn't, but the Kyuubi does. It shortens his lifespan. That's a worry. Remember how long it took to heal Naruto's skin after 4 tails?
Naruto's version of the sage mode isn't permanent, much like Sasuke's MS. Ideally, sage mode lasts forever, but Naruto's doesn't. Naruto's lifespan is only shorten while in four tail mode and higher. The lower modes don't. So unless Naruto starts popping into four tail mode every battle, It's not the same. Also, It took so long to heal because Yamato pulled him out of it. Had Naruto came out of it himself, The damage would have been gone.

Naruto's Sage Mode may no stay active indefinitely, But He found a way around that, Hasn't he?


Yeah, but if Konoha is in trouble I doubt the other Kages will be so inclined to lend a hand. Heck I doubt Danzo will ever become Hokage at this point. The Kages have much bigger problems then Danzo at the moment. And they really aren't in the position to do anything.

~Heaven Help Us~
6th October 2009, 6:37 PM
A ten-tailed beast actually sounds pretty awesome to me

Maybe because I keep imagining it as bear

I bet you 20 bucks that if it does exist, it's inside of Sasuke.

TsukiMirage
6th October 2009, 6:50 PM
A fuller spoiler has come out-

Part 1:

我、愚かな弟が買っといてくれたよ。
My foolish youngerbrother bought it.

ジャンプ表紙は、一楽ラーメン食べてるナルト
The front cover of the Jump issue is of Naruto eating Ichiraku Ramen.

10月10日なナルトの誕生日&連載10周年達成記念カラー!!
In color to celebrate October 10 as Naruto's birthday and the series' 10th anniversary.

サイ『鉄の国に入ったらナルトくんの探索…お願いしますよ…キバ』
Sai: After we enter the Iron Country, please...search for Naruto, Kiba
キバ『分かってんよ!』
Kiba: Understood!
神妙な顔のサクラ
Sakura is quiet/faithful.
キバ『ハア…』
Kiba: Ha...
リー『どうしたんです?』
Lee: What's going on?
キバ『いのは泣いてるだけだったってのに サクラはこの覚悟だ…
ナルトに何て切り出すのかは知らねーが… 気不味い雰囲気になるのは
間違いねーからよ』
Kiba: Ino just cried back there, yet Sakura and her resolve...I don't know if she's going to cut it off with Naruto but, the mood has definitely become awkward.
リー『… サクラさんにも色々考えがあるんだと思います』
Lee: ...Sakura must be thinking about a lot of things I can imagine.
キバ『しかし4人1組が…基本だからって… 探索任務だとオレだもんよ
それに… 秘密裏にってのがサイの”注文”… ”根”の尾行確認までオレの鼻まかせだぜ』
Kiba: However with 4 people as 1 team...to me, this is supposed to be a basic search mission, however, in secret, these are Sai's orders...leave it to my nose to track Root.

カラー巻頭 マダラ、キミマロ、カブト、オロチマル、カクズ、イタチ、キサメ。デイダラ、
白、ザブザ、ナルト、サクラ、ガアラ、カカシ、ジライヤ、サイ
Color cover featuring Madara, Kimimaro, Kabuto, Orochimaru, Kakuzu, Itachi, Kisame, Deidara, Haku, Zabuza, Naruto, Sakura, Gaara, Kakashi, Jiraiya, and Sai.

巻頭に
On the Cover
忍の業に導かれ、刃を交えし闘いの日々。 そして迎える新時代―
Blades clashing everyday, guide the Shinobi's deeds. And also welcome a new age.
467 宣戦
Chapter 467: Declaration of War
ナルトの思いは今…
Naruto's thoughts are now...

宿主『なんて事をしてくれやがったんだコラ!これだから忍は!』
Innkeeper: What the hell did you guys do here! It's because of this SHinobi are...!
ヤマト『す…すみません 私がちゃんと直しておきますから…』
Yamato: So...sorry I will make sure to fix it...

雪降る屋根の上にナルト。見つめるカカシ
The snow falling, Naruto is on the roof. Kakashi watches him.

ナルト、マダラの言葉を思い出す。
Naruto recalls Madara's words.
マダラ『サスケは うちはの憎しみを全て背負い… その憎しみの呪おを
世界へぶつけるつもりだ 最も強い武器であり友であり…力である憎しみ
それがサスケの忍道だ!! サスケ自身がそう選択したのさ』
Madara: Sasuke is burdened with all the hate of the Uchiha...he intends to strike the world with this hate. Sasuke himself has chosen this.

ナルト『もう…直接(サスケ)会ってみるしかねーんだ』
Naruto: There's nothing left to do but to directly confront Sasuke.

Part 2

白ゼツ顔に穴開いてる絵。
There's a picture of white Zetsu's head from an opening in a hole.

雷影『シーの見た通り火影はやはり逃げたようだな!』
Raikage: It's as Shii has seen, the Hokage seems to have run for it!
土影『うむ…サスケのせいでな』
Tsuchikage: Yeah, it's Sasuke's fault.

マダラ『!』
Madara: !
雷影が、マダラにパンチ
The Raikage punches Madara.
雷影『!!?』
Raikage: !!?
パンチ食らうが、マダラの顔の面が渦巻いて
サスケが面の中に吸い込まれていく。
The punch connected but Madara's mask vanishes like a whirpool with Sasuke getting sucked in with it.

雷影『”暁”の計画など…どうせろくなもんではない!理解できん!』
Raikage: Akatsuki's plan...there's no way I'll understand/approve!
吸い込まれてくの見てビックリ、カリン(!! サスケが…!!)
Karin is surprised to see them disappear and thinks (!! Sasuke...!!)
雷影『サスケを戻せ!』
Raikage: Return Sasuke!
マダラ『だったらオレの話を聞け それの返答次第だ』
Madara: Then listen first to what I have to say.
土影『少し落ち着け雷影 聞くだけ聞いてそれからじゃぜ』
Tsuchikage: Calm down a little Raikage, let's just listen.
雷影『チイ…!』
Raikage: Chi...

マダラ、カリンのそばに行き『サスケを回復させておけ…』
Madara goes to Karin's side. Madara: Restore Sasuke...
面がカリンを吸い込む
Karin gets sucked in.

カンクロウ『あれがマダラの能力ってやつか…』
Kankuro: This is Madara's ability huh...
テマリ『時空間忍術だな』
Temari: Space/time ninjutsu huh.

カリン(!?)
Karin (!?)
カリンと、サスケのいる時空間の部屋?は、ブリーチの白いちごが出てくる
形、大きさバラバラの箱が並ぶ部屋。みたいな感じ。
Karin is in some space/time secluded room with Sasuke. Kind of like where the white Ichigo from Bleach comes out. The room is lined by and made up of boxes. That's how it looks.
カリン『… ここは?』
Karin: ...this place is?

マダラ『さて… そろそろ聞く気になってくれたか… 諸君』
Madara: Now...It seems like you guys are ready to pay attention...Gentlemen.
ガアラ『なぜ お前がサスケを手懐けようとする?』
Gaara: Why did have Sasuke do this?
マダラ『”スサノオ”まで開眼する写輪眼は稀だ… いい眼をストックしておきたくてな
五影との実戦で さらに瞳力を鍛えさせておきたかった… ここにサスケを送りこんだのは
オレだ  五影を弱らせて人質に取ろうとも思っていた… そこまでは無理だったようだが』
Madara: I wanted to awaken his Sharingan's "Susano'o"... I need to stock up on good eyes. His fight with the 5 Kages and sending him here was like my way of training a pupil. I had thought he could weaken the 5 Kages for me to take hostage but it seems that was overdoing it.
水影『人質?… 一体何のために!?』
Mizukage: Hostage?...What could you possibly want from that!?
マダラ『さっき言った”月の眼計画”を円滑に運ぶためだ』
Madara: Like I said, it's to securely carry on my Eye of the Moon plan.
土影『本当にあの うちはマダラが生きていたとは驚きじゃが…お前ほどの男がなぜこんな
回りくどいやり方をする? お前の力ならどんな計画でも思い通りのはずじゃぜ』
Tsuchi kage: For real? It's surprising that Uchiha Madara is still alive but, why then if you're him? Why such a roundabout way of doing things? With your power you should be able to do as you wish.

Part 3
マダラ『初代火影桂間との闘いの傷が深すぎたのだ…
今のオレに力はない 言わば今のオレはただの形骸化した存在にしかすぎない』
Madara: My fight with the Shodaime Hokage left me deeply wounded...
シー『お前が… 本来の自分に戻るための計画ってやつか…?』
Shii: You...So is this plan to restore yourself to the way you were...?
マダラ『うむ…そうとも言えるが… それだけではない』
Madara: Yes...you could say that...but not just that.
ミフネ『何を企む!? ”月の眼計画”とは一体なんだ!?』
Mifune: What are you scheming!? What then is this Eye of the Moon plan!?
マダラ『ゆっくり話したい… 腰を下ろさせてもらう』
Madara: I want to take my time talking about this...so please sit down.

座り込むマダラ。(笑)
Madara sits. (Haha)

カンクロウ『どんな計画かって聞いてんだろうが!』
Kankuro: What kind of plan are you going to share with us?

マダラ、人差し指を無言で立てる
Madara raises his index finger
ガアラ『?』
Gaara: ?

マダラ『全てがオレと一つになる! 全ての統一を成す完全体だ』
Madara: I will become one with everything! I will unify all and obtain the perfect body.

一同『…!?』
Everyone: ...!?
土影『一つになる…?全ての統一じゃと…?どういう事じゃ!?』
Tsuchikage: Become one...? Unify all...? What is this!?
マダラ『うちはには代々伝わる古の石碑がある 今も木の葉のちかにある
そこはかつての六道仙人が書き付けた秘密が記してある
瞳力がなければ読むことができず  写輪眼・万華鏡写輪眼・輪廻眼の順に
解読できる内容が増える』
Madara: There's a stone monument that has been passed down for generations to the Uchiha. Even now, close to Konoha, the Rikudo Sennin once wrote about a secret there. Unless you have you pupil, you will be unable to read and decipher the Sharingan, Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan as well as increasing it's contents.
土影『話がマユツバものになってきたな 六道仙人など…』
Tsuchikage: This story has become like a fable, with the Rikudo Sennin and all...
マダラ『これは事実だ 彼は存在した  そしてその石碑を残した』
Madara: This is the truth, he lived. And he left that stone monument.
雷影イライラ~~『話が逸れた! お前の計画と その六道仙人と何の関係がある!?』
Raikage: This talk is straying! How does the Rikudo Sennin related to your plan!?
一同『?
Everyone: ?

※ここから長いよ。続きます。
It's long from here. Continuing.

Part 4
マダラ『なぜ彼が伝説となり忍の神のように崇められるようになったのか
知っているか?
そこにオレの目的と この男(六道仙人)との繋がりがありる』
Madara: How did this legend among shinobi, become revered like a god. Do you know?
水影『…うちはマダラ… アナタは 万華鏡写輪眼を持ち”暁”には輪廻眼の輩もいた
アナタも全てをしっているのね』
Mizukage: ...Uchiha Madar...you, an Akatsuki weilding the Mangekyou Sharingan, and a companion with the Rinnegan...you must also know of its entirety right.
土影『聞こう』
Tsuchikage: Lets listen.
マダラ『彼はかつて世界をすくった あるバケモノから…』
Madara: He once created this world, from that monster...
ガアラ『バケモノ…?』
Gaara: Monster...?
マダラ『ガアラ…お前もそのバケモノの一部が封印されていたにすぎない
そいつは尾獣全ての集合体  …最強のチャクラを持つ存在   十尾だ』
Madara: Gaara...a part of that monster was sealed in you. It is the the aggregation of all the biju. The being possessing the greatest chakra, the Jyubi (ten tails).

十尾の絵があるんだけど、眼が一つ。
There's a picture of the Jyubi but it only has 1 eye.
眼が万華鏡写輪眼。
It's eye has the Mangekyou Sharingan.
姿は、九尾に似てる。
The figure/shape is similar to the Kyubi.

ガアラ『!?』
Gaara: !?
テマリ『尾獣は九尾までじゃないのか!?』
Temari: Aren't there only 9 biju!?
マダラ『言ったはずだ… そいつは尾獣全ての集合体だと
一尾から九尾までの尾獣は その十尾のチャクラを分散したものにすぎない
六道仙人によってな』
Madara: I said didn't I?...It's a culmination of all the biju. From the Ichibi to the Kyubi, the Jyubi's chakra was dispersed by the Rikudo Sennin.
カンクロウ『イヤな話の流れじゃん…だから”暁”は尾獣を集めていたってことか…』
Kankuro: This story has gone bad...so Akatsuki has been collecting the biju for...
マダラ『六道仙人は十尾から世界を守るため ある忍術を開発した…
今もその忍術は密かに受け継がれている 人柱力の封印のシステム…
そう六道仙人は… 十尾の人柱力だった  十尾を抑え込むため
その体に封印したのだ
人々を苦しめていた十尾から世界を救った仙人は人々から神のように崇められた
しかしまりに強大にしてチャクラは己が死ねば封印が解け また表へ出てきてしまう
それを恐れた六道仙人は死に際に最後の力を使い 十尾のチャクラを九つに分散し
地上の各地へとバラまいた
そして十尾のチャクラを抜かれた本体は封印され力及ばない空へと飛ばされた
それが月となった』
Madara: The Rikudo Sennin protected the world from the Jyubi, and a ninjutsu was developed to to so. The mystery of that ninjutsu has been passed on even today, the system to seal Jinchuriki. That's right, the Rikudo Sennin was the Jinchuriki of the Jyubi. In order to suppress the Jyubi, he sealed it into his own body. The Rikudo Sennin save the world from the Jyubi inflicting pain on the people as was praised like a god. But if he died, the seal would break and would release the Jyubi back into the world. Fearful of that, he used the greatest power and split the Jyubi into 9 parts. They were split and separated across the land. And to make the Jyubi's power unobtainable, he flew into the sky and created the moon.

ダルイ『話がでかすぎる…人間にそんな事が本当にできるのか?』
Darui: This story is too huge...can a human really do this?
マダラ『十尾の人柱力となった六道仙人は すでに人外の輩になっていた』
Madara: By becoming the Jinchuriki of the Jyubi, the Rikudo Sennin, has already moved beyond us as a peer.
ミフネ『お前がその分散してあった九つのチャクラ… つまり全ての尾獣を集めて
その人外の力を手にするつもりなのは わかった  が…そんな力を手に入れて
何をする?』
Mifune: You...those 9 separate chakras...I understand you intend to collect the biju to obtain this inhuman power but, what do you intend to do with this power?

マダラ『十尾復活!
そしてオレは十尾の人柱力となる  その力を利用して己の瞳力を強大させ
…そして あつ術を発動させる』
Madara: Revive the Jyubi! And then as the Jyubi's Jinchuriki, I'll use this power to make my eye stronger, and to activate a jutsu.
土影『ある術じゃと!? 何じゃそれは!?何をするつもりじゃ!?』
Tsuchikage: A jutsu!? What are you talking about!? What is it you intend to do!?

Part 5
マダラ『月に己の眼を投影する大幻術   無限月読…
地上に存在する全ての人間に幻術をかける!
アレが全ての人間を その幻術の中でコントロールし
世界を一つにするのだ!』
Madara: I will project the greatest genjutsu on the moon, Mugen Tsukiyomi (Infinite Tsukiyomi)...All people living on this planet will be put in my genjutsu! I will control everyone with this genjutsu and unify this world.

一同『!!!』
Everyone: !!!

マダラ『わだかまりも争いもない世界だ 全てがオレと一つになる
全ての統一
それがオレの”月の眼計画”』
Madara: A world without ill feeling or strife. Everything will become one with me. Unify all. This is my Eye of the Moon plan.
雷影『ふざけるな!! お前などに世界は渡さん!!』
Raikage: Stop messing around!! I won't hand over the world to someone like you!!
ガアラ『幻の中の平和などごまかしだ 現実の世界で成しえてこそ意味がある』
水影『そんなものの中に何があるって言うの! 希望も夢もない!逃げているだけよ!』
Gaara: Decieved by a peace only in illusion. There's meaning to (our) actions in the real world.
土影『世界を一つにするか… 確かダンゾウも同じようなことを言っとったが…
お前のは世界を一つにすると言うより 世界を自分一人のものにしたいとしか聞こえん』
Tsuchikage: Unify the world huh...It's true Danzo said the same thing however, you say you want to make the world one, but all I hear is you wanting the world for yourself.
マダラ『ククク…そういう お前達五影に何ができたと言うのだ?
お前達なら本当は理解しているハズだ…    希望などない事を!!
希望とは あきらめに等しいものだ… ごまかしのセリフでしかない
残りの八尾と九尾を差し出し オレの計画に もろもろ協力しろ
でなければ戦争になる』
Madara: Kukuku...I see, Do you see what you 5 Kage are doing and saying? You al must certainly understand...that there is no hope! Hope is like giving up...it's just a word to cover up reality. Hand over the remaining Hachibi and Kyubi. If you don't cooperate, this will mean war.
ガアラ『戦争だと…?』
Gaara: War...?
雷影『八尾…? …どういう事だ!? ビーはお前達が…!』
Raikage: Hachibi...? ....What do you mean? Don't you guys...!
マダラ『八尾の捕獲は失敗し逃げられた… あれこそ人柱力として完璧な忍だ…
お前の弟だけある』
Madara: The capture of the Hachibi was a failure and he escaped....As a Jinchuriki, he's a perfect shinobi...despite being your younger brother.

雷影ガーン。。。顎外れそう。(笑)
Raikage is ******...his facial expression is funny (to Ohana)
ダルイ『ああ…やっぱり…そんな気もしてたんスよね…』
Darui: Ah...as thought...for him to do something like that...
シー『ハア…』
Shii: Ha..
雷影『あのアホーンめ!!これを機に里の外へ出て遊んどるのかアアア!!!
許さん! 鉄の爪(アイアンクロー)じゃ!!』
Raikage: That idiot!! To leave the village and go play!!!!

ガアラ『うずまきなるとは渡さない』
Gaara: I won't hand over Uzumaki Naruto.
水影『私も同じく!』
Mizukage: I won't either!
土影『雷影お前は?』
Tsuchikage: And you Raikage?
雷影『もちろん弟は渡さん!』
Raikage: Of course I won't hand over my younger brother!
マダラ『オレには力はないが… 今までに集めた尾獣がある お前達に勝ち目はないぞ』
Madara: I don't have any power but...until now I have collected biju and none of you have any chance of winning.
ガアラ『希望は捨てない』
GaaraL I won't abandon hope.


マダラ『いいだろう…  第四次忍界大戦…  ここに宣戦を布告する』
Madara: Fine... I proclaim a declaration of the 4th Great Ninja War from here on out.

ついに始まる世界戦争!!
At last, a world war begins!
終わり!!サーセイ★
Done!! So far the Japanese sources are confirming it, Unlike the last time a fake was used where they quickly reveal it was fake. So it seems that we may get an early chapter.

uber gon
7th October 2009, 12:44 AM
God I hope the Jyubi looks like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg).:p

Shadow Lucario
7th October 2009, 12:55 AM
God I hope the Jyubi looks like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg).:p

That would be hilarious. Thing is, to get the Jyubi he would need the Kyuubi and if he gets the Kyuubi Naruto dies and what would the point be of having a manga without the main character?

Lorde
7th October 2009, 2:14 AM
That would be hilarious. Thing is, to get the Jyubi he would need the Kyuubi and if he gets the Kyuubi Naruto dies and what would the point be of having a manga without the main character?

I've thought about this ever since I started reading the manga.

Most likely, someone would revive Naruto. It's happened before, a dead character is revived.

Shadow Lucario
7th October 2009, 2:16 AM
I've thought about this ever since I started reading the manga.

Most likely, someone would revive Naruto. It's happened before, a dead character is revived.

Well the only person that was known to be able to revive was Chiyo and she died so no one is being revived.

Lorde
7th October 2009, 3:01 AM
Well the only person that was known to be able to revive was Chiyo and she died so no one is being revived.

You seem only to eager to contradict me.

Pain was able to revive the dead. He revived Kakashi, Shizune, Fukasaku, etc. They did die and they were brought back. Since Pain could then I am sure the Sage of Six Paths could too.

I am sure that Tsunade could do so aswell seeing as she is a Medical Ninja of the highest rank. I am sure she will awoken soon.

None of this Chiyo being the only one stuff.

Shadow Lucario
7th October 2009, 3:27 AM
You seem only to eager to contradict me.

No, I'm just stating what I know.


Pain was able to revive the dead. He revived Kakashi, Shizune, Fukasaku, etc. They did die and they were brought back. Since Pain could then I am sure the Sage of Six Paths could too.

Both of them are dead. The reason Nagato died was because he used up every Tensei technique. I don't know how the Sage of the Six Paths died, but I know he's dead so they cannot revive anyone


I am sure that Tsunade could do so aswell seeing as she is a Medical Ninja of the highest rank. I am sure she will awoken soon.

Tsunade cannot bring back the dead. I'm sure she would have saved Dan if she could.


None of this Chiyo being the only one stuff.

Chiyo and Nagato were the only two who could revive and they both died in doing so. If Naruto died then he's dead. No one would be able to revive him.

TsukiMirage
7th October 2009, 5:50 AM
I confident a way will be found to get the Kyuubi out of Naruto. As for revival, There's no reason that Tsunade wouldn't be able to do that. Chiyo admit that Tsdunade was better then she was. Don't forget, Tsunade didn't become a Sennin until long after Dan had died.

Rashdan
7th October 2009, 6:59 AM
If the spoilers true, Then dammit! Two crappy conspiracies confirmed in one chapter.

Naruto's lifespan is only shorten while in four tail mode and higher. The lower modes don't. So unless Naruto starts popping into four tail mode every battle, It's not the same. Also, It took so long to heal because Yamato pulled him out of it. Had Naruto came out of it himself, The damage would have been gone.

Naruto's Sage Mode may no stay active indefinitely, But He found a way around that, Hasn't he?
The other forms have negative impacts too; his hand was numb from overuse during his battle against Sasuke in Part 1, and he was in his one tailed form. Each form after that only increases the amount of damage he takes, even if it's not as physically visible as the fourth tailed form.

Naruto used 2 shadow clones to gather sage chakra while he was fighting. While it is a way to continue fighting for a little longer, it's not as permanent as Jiraiya's, because he had the toads to collect chakra for him nonstop. As soon as the 2 clones are up, he would have to recreate more clones and send them away to gather chakra, or create another as he dispels one of them, so that there's always two. The method is still painfully limited, as he won't be able to use many clones in battle, limiting his strategies. And yes, he did use a multi shadow clone technique towards the end of his battle with Pain, but that was only after he'd gotten sage chakra from the last clone he left behind, and he didn't create any clones to replace that one.

So no, it's far from permanent using his method.

TsukiMirage
7th October 2009, 10:06 AM
The other forms have negative impacts too; his hand was numb from overuse during his battle against Sasuke in Part 1, and he was in his one tailed form. Each form after that only increases the amount of damage he takes, even if it's not as physically visible as the fourth tailed form. That was merely because it was Naruto's first time using it. We were told specifically why four tail mode was dangerous. Unlike the lower forms, In four tail mode Naruto's cells are consistently being damaged and healed again and again, Speeding up the life of the cells.


Naruto used 2 shadow clones to gather sage chakra while he was fighting. While it is a way to continue fighting for a little longer, it's not as permanent as Jiraiya's, because he had the toads to collect chakra for him nonstop. As soon as the 2 clones are up, he would have to recreate more clones and send them away to gather chakra, or create another as he dispels one of them, so that there's always two. The method is still painfully limited, as he won't be able to use many clones in battle, limiting his strategies. And yes, he did use a multi shadow clone technique towards the end of his battle with Pain, but that was only after he'd gotten sage chakra from the last clone he left behind, and he didn't create any clones to replace that one.

So no, it's far from permanent using his method. I never said it was permanent, But it's just as good. The reason Naruto kept having to go into it was because he kept on using the FRS, Which uses half of the Sage Chakra up. He can stay in it as long as he has the chakra to keep balance, And since Naruto has such a large amount, He can last quite a while. You do realize that Jiraiya's wasn't permanent either. Once he got low on chakra he would come out of it, The same as Naruto. And Naruto can't have more then two Kage Bunshins in Sage Mode, But he can still have them as normal even when he's in Sage Mode.

~Heaven Help Us~
7th October 2009, 4:34 PM
You think we are gonna see how Tsunade looks old?

uber gon
7th October 2009, 9:13 PM
That would be hilarious. Thing is, to get the Jyubi he would need the Kyuubi and if he gets the Kyuubi Naruto dies and what would the point be of having a manga without the main character?

Maybe he'll fuse all the beasts inside Naruto and Naruto will literally become the Jyubi.

HoennMaster
7th October 2009, 11:38 PM
Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. Kishi is the author and he can create someone who can revive the dead.


Tsunade cannot bring back the dead. I'm sure she would have saved Dan if she could.

She would have brought back her brother first.


You think we are gonna see how Tsunade looks old?

I just hope she awakens.

TsukiMirage
7th October 2009, 11:57 PM
Picture is out that seems to confirm the chapter, or at least some of it. Still hoping it's not as crazy as the spoilers make it sound.

Shadow Lucario
8th October 2009, 2:54 AM
Maybe he'll fuse all the beasts inside Naruto and Naruto will literally become the Jyubi.

Or maybe, like someone already said, it's in Sasuke. Remember that thing that looked like the four tailed Kyuubi a few chapters back? Maybe that was it.

Lorde
8th October 2009, 2:59 AM
Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions. Kishi is the author and he can create someone who can revive the dead.

Yes most likely. He can do anything. At the end of the day, it is his decision.

HoennMaster
8th October 2009, 11:27 AM
Or maybe, like someone already said, it's in Sasuke. Remember that thing that looked like the four tailed Kyuubi a few chapters back? Maybe that was it.

Oh god I forgot about that. I pray that isn't it.

Lorde
8th October 2009, 11:49 AM
Most likely, that figure seen around Sasuke just represented his hate.

I doubt he'd be the host of the ten-tails. He may play a role in it's creation but I doubt he is the Jinchuriki or anything.

~Heaven Help Us~
8th October 2009, 5:43 PM
Or maybe, like someone already said, it's in Sasuke. Remember that thing that looked like the four tailed Kyuubi a few chapters back? Maybe that was it.

What thing that looked like the Kyuubi?

Gentleman Skeleton
8th October 2009, 6:07 PM
Well, an image of the Jyuubii has finally been posted and here it is:

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4379/652870.jpg

In my opinion, it's kinda meh.

~Heaven Help Us~
8th October 2009, 6:36 PM
You noticed that the clothes that the Rokudo guy (I think that's his name) look like the ones Sasuke has on?

uber gon
8th October 2009, 8:08 PM
You noticed that the clothes that the Rokudo guy (I think that's his name) look like the ones Sasuke has on?

Heh maybe Sasuke steals control of the Jyubi from Madara and becomes "UBER-BROKEN".:p

Lorde
9th October 2009, 1:49 AM
Well, an image of the Jyuubii has finally been posted and here it is:

http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/4379/652870.jpg

In my opinion, it's kinda meh.

It looks weird. It's going to give me nightmares.

So I guess that "Kyuubi" shadow thing behind Sasuke isn't the Jyuubi.

uber gon
9th October 2009, 3:00 AM
I was kinda hoping for a different looking Mangekyo Sharingan for the Jyubi.

Shadow Lucario
9th October 2009, 5:07 AM
That's one heck of a Sharingan the Jyuubi has. How many tomoe is that?

Lorde
9th October 2009, 5:13 AM
I was kinda hoping for a different looking Mangekyo Sharingan for the Jyubi.

A different MS? Is it's eye supposed to be an MS? It looks disturbing.

I just read the chapter. Madara is quite insane.

shiny gible
9th October 2009, 8:04 AM
I think Madaras plan is really good and smart because that would be the only way to bring world peace
And also the 10 tailed does look disturbing but there is nothing they can do since Madara is immortal

Lorde
9th October 2009, 8:17 AM
I think Madaras plan is really good and smart because that would be the only way to bring world peace
And also the 10 tailed does look disturbing but there is nothing they can do since Madara is immortal

It seems so rushed. Like it was put together at the last second.

Akatsuki has had so many different plans it has gotten confusing.

Ruling the world using illusions? It sounds like something from another manga.

shiny gible
9th October 2009, 8:19 AM
That is true and that new sharingan mixed with the rinnagan looks kindof werid but whatever its still interesting to see the new ninja war play out

Lorde
9th October 2009, 8:20 AM
That is true and that new sharingan mixed with the rinnagan looks kindof werid but whatever its still interesting to see the new ninja war play out

Most likely, it'll be the Bijuu versus the 5 Hidden Villages. Unless Madara is in control of his own land/nation.

shiny gible
9th October 2009, 8:24 AM
Pretty much but its still going to be cool to ee what Sasuke is going to do now that Danzo has escaped
And I also think that Sakura is going to kill herself because she knows she causes him pain so ya wtf else can she do to make him feel no pain

lucky_u
9th October 2009, 9:57 AM
Most likely, it'll be the Bijuu versus the 5 Hidden Villages. Unless Madara is in control of his own land/nation.

You forgot the Rain village. Konan says she will help Naruto to realize his dream, so I guess she will come to help.

HoennMaster
9th October 2009, 11:30 AM
Great chapter. Interesting plan of Madara's.

I wonder what is going to happen in this new war. Obviously the Five Great Nations and Amegakure will be on one side and Madara and the Tailed Beasts on the other, but I wonder you the smaller nations will ally with....hopefully the 5 Great Nations.


What thing that looked like the Kyuubi?

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/14/


That's one heck of a Sharingan the Jyuubi has. How many tomoe is that?

Looks like 9 to me.


I think Madaras plan is really good and smart because that would be the only way to bring world peace

It's not true peace. It's a black and white world of illusion where everyone is controlled.


And I also think that Sakura is going to kill herself because she knows she causes him pain so ya wtf else can she do to make him feel no pain

That is just stupid.

~Heaven Help Us~
9th October 2009, 3:32 PM
Great chapter. Interesting plan of Madara's.

I wonder what is going to happen in this new war. Obviously the Five Great Nations and Amegakure will be on one side and Madara and the Tailed Beasts on the other, but I wonder you the smaller nations will ally with....hopefully the 5 Great Nations.



http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/460/14/



Looks like 9 to me.



It's not true peace. It's a black and white world of illusion where everyone is controlled.



That is just stupid.

That's probably just his Susanoo.


anyways, good chapter good chapter really liked it.

Shadow Lucario
9th October 2009, 4:48 PM
That is true and that new sharingan mixed with the rinnagan looks kindof werid but whatever its still interesting to see the new ninja war play out

It's not the Sharingan mixed with the Rinnegan. It's just the Sharingan with nine tomoe. The extra tomoe caused it to have three rings.

~Heaven Help Us~
9th October 2009, 8:33 PM
It's not the Sharingan mixed with the Rinnegan. It's just the Sharingan with nine tomoe. The extra tomoe caused it to have three rings.

Why would the Juubi have a Sharingan??

Shadow Lucario
9th October 2009, 9:44 PM
Why would the Juubi have a Sharingan??

I don't know, but it does. Did you not look at it good enough?

Shneak
9th October 2009, 10:00 PM
I don't understand what Madara is going to do with the world. Destroy it?

And, now the 4th Ninja World War begins...this could get interesting.

Kamex
9th October 2009, 10:26 PM
Ruling the world using illusions? It sounds like something from another manga.
Actually, I was thinking the opposite. Madara's ultimate plan is something I think many people were hoping wouldn't be cliche, and it's pretty hard to be original with shonen manga these days. But I think Kishi pulled it off - the Moon's Eye plan is pretty unique to this story, not to mention it fits in pretty well with the history of the Naruto world.

So what I'm wondering now is how much Nagato knew of all this. Was he aware of the plan? It seems Madara has a similar goal as Nagato's after all, except he wants a different kind of control over the world. Perhaps a scarier one than Nagato's. I'm pretty sure Zetsu knew of the plan, since Madara had let him know that he was going to initiate it. Does Zetsu actually look forward to being controlled by Madara? He's so mysterious.

I thought it was hilarious that Madara wanted to take all the kage hostage, but apparently overestimated their power or underestimated Sasuke's. He's so candid about everything... and as powerful and resourceful as he is, it's funny how human he can be sometimes. I guess it's the comic relief Tobi inside of him. :)

BTW, I haven't been around for some time. Sorry in advance if I ignore something someone said in the past month or so.

TsukiMirage
9th October 2009, 10:45 PM
It's not the Sharingan mixed with the Rinnegan. It's just the Sharingan with nine tomoe. The extra tomoe caused it to have three rings. It could have extra tomoes without the need for extra rings. I do would say it's seems like a mix of the Rinnegan and Sharingan, But that's probably just the way Madara is picturing it.


I don't understand what Madara is going to do with the world. Destroy it? He's gonna trap the whole world inside a massive illusion and control everyone like a god.

I can't even say what direction this story is trying to go, But seriously, Kishi needs to take the time to come up with something original. He can't just copy any plot to fit the story. Especially one from NGE and Legend of Dragoon. Anyway, While the idea of a fourth ninja war sounds nice, I really doubt we'll actually get a good one. Kishi's track record for big battles isn't all that good. Nor is his ability to actually kill people off that aren't needed.

Shneak
9th October 2009, 10:51 PM
He's gonna trap the whole world inside a massive illusion and control everyone like a god.

I can't even say what direction this story is trying to go, But seriously, Kishi needs to take the time to come up with something original. He can't just copy any plot to fit the story. Especially one from NGE and Legend of Dragoon. Anyway, While the idea of a fourth ninja war sounds nice, I really doubt we'll actually get a good one. Kishi's track record for big battles isn't all that good. Nor is his ability to actually kill people off that aren't needed.

That's nuts.

I agree with you, I don't expect much from this 'war'.

megaman12
10th October 2009, 12:29 AM
So how would this war start?Have the beast attack each nation?

Kamex
10th October 2009, 1:21 AM
Forgot to mention, I think the design for the Juubi won't be exactly what we saw in Madara's story. In any case, it looks somewhat humanoid-ish, which is freaky enough for the part I suppose.

Lorde
10th October 2009, 1:47 AM
You forgot the Rain village. Konan says she will help Naruto to realize his dream, so I guess she will come to help.

The Rain Village? Amegakure probably won't be involved. Madara has nothing against that village personally and there isn't anything there that would benefit him.

Kamex, I see your point.

Skiks
10th October 2009, 2:11 AM
So how would this war start?Have the beast attack each nation?
It's obviously gonna be all the villages protecting the last two beasts from Madara. Not sure what to think of this whole plan though. Whether or not it's been done or not doesn't really matter to me. Just if it can be done well.

HoennMaster
10th October 2009, 2:17 AM
So how would this war start?Have the beast attack each nation?

That would be how the war ends. Madara has to get Killer Bee and Naruto first.



The Rain Village? Amegakure probably won't be involved. Madara has nothing against that village personally and there isn't anything there that would benefit him.

Konan said Amegakure would help Naruto if he needs them, and now is the perfect time for it.


Does Zetsu actually look forward to being controlled by Madara?

Madara probably wouldn't control him or Kisame, but you never know.

Lorde
10th October 2009, 2:46 AM
Does Zetsu actually look forward to being controlled by Madara? He's so mysterious.


Zetsu joined Akatsuki for "land". Most likely, he hopes to attain his own nation or something of that sort.

I think he will be an exception to Madara's genjutsu.

TsukiMirage
10th October 2009, 3:38 AM
I think he will be an exception to Madara's genjutsu. Probably Zetsu is immune, Seeing as he seems to be in on all of the plans. Also, Anyone blind or indoors during the night won't be affected either.

Kamex
10th October 2009, 3:49 AM
Perhaps Zetsu thinks he'll be an exception but Madara is tricking him.


Anyone blind or indoors during the night won't be affected either.
Assuming it's that simple.

~Heaven Help Us~
10th October 2009, 4:30 AM
I don't know, but it does. Did you not look at it good enough?

If it's being controlled by Madara, okay. But why would it if it's being controlled/fighting with the Rikudo Sage?? Or does it randomly get it if it fuses

Rashdan
10th October 2009, 6:18 AM
That would be how the war ends. Madara has to get Killer Bee and Naruto first.
Which definitely won't happen.

Naruto will probably play a large role in this war, even if he's meant to be kept safe. It's even possible he would learn how to control the Kyuubi and learn how to use its power efficiently (maybe even perfect/finish some technique that Jiraiya/Minato mentioned a while back, as it had something to do with controlling the Kyuubi's power), which is really the only way he can avoid being captured by Madara.

Of course, Madara's ability to control the Kyuubi is something to watch out for.

It's also possible Madara will use the powers of the 7 beasts he has already, but conserve it for his Moon's Eye plan. Those 7 alone would hold out quite well against the Hachibi and Kyuubi, along with the 5 nations. Of course, the Hachibi and Kyuubi aren't pushovers, but still.

Lorde
10th October 2009, 6:36 AM
Probably Zetsu is immune, Seeing as he seems to be in on all of the plans. Also, Anyone blind or indoors during the night won't be affected either.

If Madara does succeed, I am pretty sure it'll be night all the time. Tsukuyomi does create a lot of darkness.

MidnightMelody
10th October 2009, 7:18 AM
So the war begins! Wait what was the thing Itachi gave Naruto anyway?

Lorde
10th October 2009, 7:23 AM
Forgot to mention, I think the design for the Juubi won't be exactly what we saw in Madara's story. In any case, it looks somewhat humanoid-ish, which is freaky enough for the part I suppose.

It looks like the Kyuubi almost.

It looks animalistic enough. Humans lack tails.

Shadow Lucario
10th October 2009, 8:27 AM
It could have extra tomoes without the need for extra rings

I doubt that. How many Sharingan have you seen with nine tomoe on one ring? Well, how many Sharingan have you seen with nine tomoe? Didn't the spoilers say it was a Mangekyou Sharingan anyway?

Lorde
10th October 2009, 9:21 AM
So the war begins! Wait what was the thing Itachi gave Naruto anyway?

What thing are you talking about? The "power"?

TsukiMirage
10th October 2009, 9:39 AM
Assuming it's that simple. Well, Maybe the staying inside thing, But aside from that, Those who are blind shouldn't be affected.


If Madara does succeed, I am pretty sure it'll be night all the time. Tsukuyomi does create a lot of darkness. Nah, It's gonna be one instant hypnosis, Aka Aizen's Shikai. It shouldn't actually affect the weather or anything.


I doubt that. How many Sharingan have you seen with nine tomoe on one ring? Well, how many Sharingan have you seen with nine tomoe? Didn't the spoilers say it was a Mangekyou Sharingan anyway? Regardless, Those nine tomoes could've fit on the outer ring. Since it's not a normal Sharingan, That automatically makes it a Mangekyou Sharingan.

Lorde
10th October 2009, 9:54 AM
Nah, It's gonna be one instant hypnosis, Aka Aizen's Shikai. It shouldn't actually affect the weather or anything.


The normal Tsukuyomi creates a world of illusion. It is depicted as Black & White in the manga and Black & Orange in the anime.

I can therefore predict that the Infinite Tsukuyomi is the same thing, but on a larger scale.

Shadow Lucario
10th October 2009, 8:43 PM
It is depicted as Black & White in the manga and Black & Orange in the anime.

Only the sky is orange in the anime. I also think it will be something like Aizen's Shikai. Notice how Kakashi and Sasuke never said anything about the color when they were in Tsukoyomi.

Kamex
10th October 2009, 9:12 PM
Anyone think the Kyuubi will be extracted from Naruto? I mean now that we're aware of something as powerful as the Juubi it would be kind of anticlimactic to not see it appear... I guess Madara could find an alternate way to rebirth it, but I don't see how it's possible without all nine tailed beasts.

And on another note, I'm still wondering if/when Kushina's role in any of this will be revealed.

Shneak
10th October 2009, 10:12 PM
I wonder if Madara will do this all himself, or still have Akatsuki help. The only remaining people are Zetsu and Kisame. Konan quit, and Orochimaru is dead/alive. I hope we see more recruits.

Gunter
10th October 2009, 10:29 PM
I wonder if Madara will do this all himself, or still have Akatsuki help. The only remaining people are Zetsu and Kisame. Konan quit, and Orochimaru is dead/alive. I hope we see more recruits.

Hmm, that might be possible... but we've seen so many fighting styles from Akatsuki allready that I'm not sure what else they could think of. Mind you, my brain is pretty much on sleep mode at the moment so I'm sure there would be loads of ideas.

uber gon
11th October 2009, 12:45 AM
Some war this will turn out to be.

Lorde
11th October 2009, 6:44 AM
Only the sky is orange in the anime.

Itachi and the person he tortures are depicted as dark, i.e. black/white. Yeah the sky is orange, which is different than it is in the manga.

Le proof: Here (http://www.leafninja.net/jutsu/Tsukiyome2.jpg)

You can look for more images if you want to, this is just my favorite.

TsukiMirage
11th October 2009, 8:09 AM
The normal Tsukuyomi creates a world of illusion. It is depicted as Black & White in the manga and Black & Orange in the anime.

I can therefore predict that the Infinite Tsukuyomi is the same thing, but on a larger scale. True, But the actual sky doesn't change. That all happens inside the person's mind.


I wonder if Madara will do this all himself, or still have Akatsuki help. The only remaining people are Zetsu and Kisame. Konan quit, and Orochimaru is dead/alive. I hope we see more recruits. Why get more recruits. The fewer members they have, The harder the major villages will have with dealing with them.

HoennMaster
11th October 2009, 11:11 AM
I wonder if Madara will do this all himself, or still have Akatsuki help. The only remaining people are Zetsu and Kisame. Konan quit, and Orochimaru is dead/alive. I hope we see more recruits.

Even if Orochimaru was alive, he wouldn't help, he left Akatsuki 10 years ago. And why wouldn't Zetsu and Kisame help?

Blaziryu
11th October 2009, 1:54 PM
I don't understand why Madara declare the 4th Ninja War. The 5 Great Nations won't be fighting each other after they just learned what Madara wants to do. Madara will fail like he always does. I bet Kabuto is going to become the Jinchuuriki of the Juubi.

Shneak
11th October 2009, 3:39 PM
Even if Orochimaru was alive, he wouldn't help, he left Akatsuki 10 years ago. And why wouldn't Zetsu and Kisame help?

Orochimaru has the ability to extract the fox out of Naruto. Nobody else has this?

Shadow Lucario
11th October 2009, 3:54 PM
Itachi and the person he tortures are depicted as dark, i.e. black/white.

Well the whole manga is in black and white, but that's beside the point. ;)



You can look for more images if you want to, this is just my favorite.

I've seen Tsukuyomi many times. Since it takes place in the mind of the person I'm sure it will vary between each one. Also, since Madara is the one casting it, it might be different because of him.

blaziken#1
12th October 2009, 12:51 AM
what do you think the 10 tails looks like his eye looks cool

Lorde
12th October 2009, 8:54 AM
what do you think the 10 tails looks like his eye looks cool

We've already seen what it looks like. Kinda.

It looks like a mammal so I would just imagine it as such. Some people will say it looks like the Kyuubi.

Shadow Lucario
12th October 2009, 10:36 AM
I wonder how Madara is planning on extracting the Kyuubi. Since Nagato is dead there is no one in Akatsuki that can sync with that statue.

Lorde
12th October 2009, 10:47 AM
*coughSasukecough*

Obviously, it was the first person that I thought of since he has incredible stamina and Chakra.

I do not see anyone else who could sync with the sealing statue.

Unless there is another way to extract Bijuu, though I doubt it would be easier if one even exists.

Shadow Lucario
12th October 2009, 12:29 PM
*coughSasukecough*

*coughYou'reprobablyrightasMadaraseemstobeinlovewi thSasukenowcough*

Man that was a bad one.

He did say he was going to find someone else right? Maybe he's talking about all of Taka.

Torpoleon
12th October 2009, 3:14 PM
Madara needs pure luck to get the Nine Tails considering how strong it is. When Naruto went 8 tails on Pain, he countered Pain's Chibaku Tensei!

The 4th Great Shinobi War sure will be something. Madara is just plain evil. And I thought Orochimaru used to be evil. Nice to know that there is a Ten Tailed Beast. Should have seen something like that coming. Of curse the Ten Tailed Beat's jinchuriki(or however you spell it) was the Sage of the Six Paths. I have a feeling that Madara will eventually get all nine tailed beasts. Can't wait to see what happens in the next chapter with the 4th Great Shinobi War starting!

uber gon
12th October 2009, 11:42 PM
Wonder how Madara will feel when Sasuke (probably) gains control of the Jubi and threatens to destroy the world or something?

Torpoleon
12th October 2009, 11:48 PM
Wonder how Madara will feel when Sasuke (probably) gains control of the Jubi and threatens to destroy the world or something?
How would Sasuke gain control of the Jubi? (The Jubi is the Ten Tailed Beast, right?)

Shadow Lucario
13th October 2009, 12:11 AM
How would Sasuke gain control of the Jubi? (The Jubi is the Ten Tailed Beast, right?)

Yes the Jubi is the ten tailed beast. Maybe Sasuke's Mangekyou Sharingan can control it like how Madara did with the Kyuubi

HoennMaster
13th October 2009, 12:15 AM
Orochimaru has the ability to extract the fox out of Naruto. Nobody else has this?

Still, why would he help Akatsuki when he left them 10 years go, and before his death wanted to see them all dead?


He did say he was going to find someone else right? Maybe he's talking about all of Taka.

I thought he said he was going to train Sasuke to sync with it?


I don't understand why Madara declare the 4th Ninja War.

He wantsthe 8-tails, and 9-tails, the Five Great Nations won't give them up, hence a war. Plus, he has 7 of the Tailed Beasts, he does stand a chance against them.

Torpoleon
13th October 2009, 12:44 AM
Yes the Jubi is the ten tailed beast. Maybe Sasuke's Mangekyou Sharingan can control it like how Madara did with the Kyuubi
True. That would be pretty cool actually. Unfortunately, we may never actually see an actual image of the Jubi except as a flashback.

Lorde
13th October 2009, 12:47 AM
True. That would be pretty cool actually. Unfortunately, we may never actually see an actual image of the Jubi except as a flashback.

Maybe we will see it, if there is another databook or artbook.

Or maybe the beast will actually appear in the series. I think the series will be pretty boring unless they add the Jubi into the mix.

HoennMaster
13th October 2009, 1:51 AM
It will probably be both. We first saw the 4, 5, 6, and 7 Tails in the data book and then the sort of made appearances in last week's chapter.

TsukiMirage
13th October 2009, 2:00 AM
The thing about the Bijuu being used in the war is that it's already been shown by Madara's own group Akatsuki that they can be taken out in a one on one fight by skilled enough ninjas. How can Madara see them facing against an entire village? His only option would be to send them all against one village at a time, But then even that doesn't ensure the villages won't join together in attack.

arceus7
13th October 2009, 2:17 AM
Isn't anyway interested in Zetsu's powers? I used to think this was a bunk thread

TsukiMirage
13th October 2009, 5:52 AM
Zetsu's ability was kind of expected, What with him being plant based and all. But I didn't expect the idea that he could give away chakra too. Seems like he could poses a similar role to Madara as Karin does to Sasuke, Replenishing chakra when their down.

Lorde
13th October 2009, 6:09 AM
Isn't anyway interested in Zetsu's powers? I used to think this was a bunk thread

His "spores" weren't such a surprise, but still I would like to see more of his abilities.

I can already assume that he absorbs Chakra like Jirobo and Yoroi.

Shadow Lucario
13th October 2009, 7:01 AM
His "spores" weren't such a surprise, but still I would like to see more of his abilities.

I can already assume that he absorbs Chakra like Jirobo and Yoroi.

Well, we all know he abosrbs Chakra as he stole the Kages Chakra and gave it to Sasuke. I too wish to see more of Zetsu's abilities. So far he is as everyone thought he is; frickin awesome.

Kamex
13th October 2009, 7:28 AM
I'm still waiting for the revelation that Zetsu's been playing Madara for a fool. :)

They're all pawns in his game...

Lorde
13th October 2009, 7:55 AM
I'm still waiting for the revelation that Zetsu's been playing Madara for a fool. :)

They're all pawns in his game...

Pawns? I do wonder why Madara worked under Zetsu. Seems odd even if he was trying to hide his identity.

HoennMaster
13th October 2009, 8:14 AM
Forgot about that. Then again, was it said the Zetsu knew Tobi's identity all along?

Lorde
13th October 2009, 12:10 PM
Forgot about that. Then again, was it said the Zetsu knew Tobi's identity all along?

Not sure. The whole "Tobi is a good boy" thing makes me think that Zetsu was oblivious.

Shneak
13th October 2009, 9:48 PM
Yeah, I don't think Zetsu had a clue.

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13th October 2009, 9:50 PM
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TsukiMirage
13th October 2009, 11:10 PM
I don't know, Zetsu seems like he was in on it from the beginning to me.

Spoiler for 468:

Credits: on3word
Source: NF
Quote:
An alternate translation:

745 :んじゃ ◆bvOTKk1mXg :2009/10/13(火) 21:11:26 ID:6HobeF8J0
んじゃ戦場で とマダラ去る
At the Battlefield & Madara's leave

6カ国連合へ(鉄の国も賛同)
The 6 countries unite (Iron Country in agreement)
連合軍総指揮官はガアラの推薦で はたけカカシへ
Gaara's recommendation as the allied force's supreme commander is Hatake Kakashi
土影・雷影も認める
Tsuchikage and Raikage approve
土影の提案でこちらの人柱力を最前線で戦わせるか?
Tsuchikage proposes that they put the Jinchuuriki they have at the front of the battlefield to fight?
って意見で 雷影 ビーは何をしでかすかわからん
their opinions Raikage: Bee in unpredictable in what he does.
      ガアラ うずまきナルト も同じだ
Gaara: Uzumaki Naruto is the same.
って事で2人は保護し拘束するって話に
basically they talk about caring for and restraining the two (jinchuuriki)
ダンゾウは 他の五影の信用を無くし敵前逃亡したからこの話が
      里の民に知れ渡ればいずれは失脚 と雷影さんのお墨付き
In terms of Danzou, the other 5 Kage talk about how they've lost faith in him for deserting them while under fire and that Raikage has a certified document to give to the people of the village to oust him from his position.

キサメについてヒラメのやつが
Choojuuroo mentions about Kisame that

キサメさんは大剣 鮫肌 と合体・融合?ができ化け物へ
その強さは 尻尾を持たない尾獣 と先輩達に恐れられていた
if Kisame were to unite and fuse? with his sword Samehada and becomes a monster, his strength would be like that of a tailed beast, which is something his senpai feared.

ビー・サブちゃんの下で演歌修行
Bee is studying and pursuing Enka (modern Japanese ballad) under Sub-chan

サクラ ナルトの元に到着 ナルト話があるの… 
Sakura arrives at Naruto's location and has something to say to him...

ビーの元にキサメ到着
Back at Bee's location, Kisame arrives.

次回 ビーVSキサメ
Next chapter: Bee Vs. Kisame

って所で完  以上3分で読んだナルトの感想ですw
I'll finish there; these are the impressions I got after reading 3 minutes.

More from Nja

791 :んじゃ ◆bvOTKk1mXg :2009/10/13(火) 21:22:42 ID:6HobeF8J0
俺もカカシはどうかと思いますが
I also wonder how Kakashi would do but..

土影 白い牙の息子か…ふむいいじゃろう 
Tsuichikage: The White Fang's son huh...it's fine for him to step on right

って感じに どんだけ親父と息子名声あるんだよwwと
the way he says that he seems to be asking how it is possible for both father and son to be so famous

HoennMaster
14th October 2009, 12:08 AM
Oh boy, Kisame vs. Bee about to start. This should be good. I'm super excited now, Danzo might already be on his way out before he eve does anything (prays Tsunade wakes up).

Torpoleon
14th October 2009, 12:11 AM
Chapter 468 seems pretty exciting! Kisame VS Bee would be awesome! Bee has the 8th tailed beat, right? Well anyways, I am happy that Sasuke meets up with Naruto. He is probably going to tell Naruto about Madara. So, do you guys always get information on a chapter of the Shippuden manga before it is on onemanga.com?

Shadow Lucario
14th October 2009, 12:14 AM
So, do you guys always get information on a chapter of the Shippuden manga before it is on onemanga.com?

Before a chapter comes out spoilers are released, usually on Tuesday or Wednesday for Naruto. Then someone will post it here, allowing someone to look at what is going to happen in the chapter if they want to

Lorde
14th October 2009, 12:49 AM
This one doesn't seem very exciting. But I suppose the next one will be ok. I am pretty sure Killer Bee will be captured by Kisame. It's depressing.

MarshtompMan
14th October 2009, 12:50 AM
Maybe the side that said "Tobi is a good boy" was oblivious.
Or maybe the other side was oblivious and the other side said "Tobi is a good boy" as a joke.

TsukiMirage
14th October 2009, 5:25 AM
Totally dislike how Kishi dealt with Danzo. I was expecting Danzo to go out better then this. Made him becoming Hokage pointless. Well, Kisame vs Kirabi should be good.

Lorde
14th October 2009, 7:20 AM
Totally dislike how Kishi dealt with Danzo. I was expecting Danzo to go out better then this. Made him becoming Hokage pointless. Well, Kisame vs Kirabi should be good.

It is rather pointless to wipe him out like that. Though I never liked the man (Danzo) in the first place.

Shadow Lucario
14th October 2009, 3:06 PM
It is rather pointless to wipe him out like that. Though I never liked the man (Danzo) in the first place.

Maybe Kishi didn't like him either.

Atoyont
14th October 2009, 4:46 PM
I doubt Danzo will go down without a fight.

The fusion of Kisame and Samehada sounds interesting... it can absorb chakra right?

uber gon
14th October 2009, 7:52 PM
Wonder if we'll get some resolution towards Naruto/Sakura?

Kakashi sure is a prime candidate for a majority of the high power positions. Hope he becomes Hokage, I would LOVE to see him in Hokage clothes.

arceus7
14th October 2009, 8:01 PM
I wonder if Gaara will tell the ninja of madara's moons eye plan

Shneak
14th October 2009, 9:57 PM
Kakashi sure is a prime candidate for a majority of the high power positions. Hope he becomes Hokage, I would LOVE to see him in Hokage clothes.

Hope the comatose wakes up.

uber gon
14th October 2009, 11:18 PM
Hope the comatose wakes up.

If you mean Kakashi he's alive. If you mean Tsunade then yeah I hope she wakes up.

TsukiMirage
15th October 2009, 12:52 AM
I think Tsunade will awaken further down the road, Just in time to revive Naruto after the Kyuubi has been taken from him. Then we'll get another "will of fire" speech and she'll join the other Sannins in death.

Part 1
468 八尾と九尾
468: Hachibi and Kyuubi (8-Tails & 9-Tails)

戦慄の宣戦布告に五影は…!?
A shudder of the proclimation of war upon the 5 Kages...!?

土影『第四次忍界大戦じゃと… 正気か!?』
Tsuchikage: The 4th Great Ninja War...is he for real!?
一同『!!?』
Everyone: !!?
マダラ『冗談でこんな事を言い出すほどバカでもない』
Madara: I'm not some idiot who would joke about something like this.
雷影『…』
Raikage: ...
マダラ『今度は戦場で会おう』
Madara: Next time let us meet on the battlefield.
マダラの顔に渦が巻き消えて行く
Madara disappears like a whirlpool into his mask.

土影『さて…どうしたもんかの…?』
Tsuchikage: So...what's going on...?
ガアラ『忍連合軍をつくるしかない 七体も尾獣の力に対抗するにはな』
Gaara: We have no choice but to band together, in opposition to the 7 Bijuu.
雷影『…』
Raikage: ...
水影『雷影様は反対されてましたが?』
Mizukage: Raikage-sama, do you object to this?
雷影『弟は無事だったようだが… …これ以上”暁”に
だらだらと振り回される訳にはいかん! 連合軍をつくり一気にケリをつける!』
Raikage: It seems my younger brother is safe but... ...to allow Akatsuki to go on any further than this is unallowable! We shall become allied forces and settle the score!
土影『木の葉はどうするんじゃ? 火影が逃げたままじゃぜ』
Tsuchikage: So what of Konoha? Seeing as the Hokage ran at a time like this.
雷影『ダンゾウは黒い噂が絶えん! 今回の会談の件でワシらの信用を失った!
それにこれが木の葉の忍達に知られれば 木の葉でのダンゾウの立場も危うい
いずれ失脚だ!』
Raikage: Danzou is like bad gossip that but be stopped! In the matters on our recent conference he has lost all credibility! Besides, if the ninja of Konoha are informed of this, he will lose his standing.
ガアラ『忍連合軍の話はオレが信用できる木の葉の忍に伝えておく』
Gaara: I will communicate what was discussed to trustworthy Konoha shinobi.
雷影『誰だ?』
Raikage: Who?
ガアラ『写輪眼の はたけカカシだ』
Gaara: The Sharingan weilder Hatake Kakashi.
土影『あの白い牙の息子か』
Tsuchikage: That White Fang's son huh.
雷影、カカシとナルト土下座を思い出す。
Raikage, remembers when Kakashi and Naruto were kneeling on the ground.
カカシ(…今ここで若い忍が不器用なりに雲と木の葉…互いの国を想い頭を下げている
雷影様…アナタは五影の一人として これをどう捉え どう思われる?)
Kakashi (...now clumsy, young shinobi with the Cloud and Leaf...to be the Raikage-sama to allow this working together of countries...seeing as you to have this perception amongst the 5 Kages, what would others think?)
雷影『いいだろう ダンゾウよりは信用できそうだ』
Raikage: Fine, it seems we can trsut him over Danzou.
カンクロウ『…だな』
Kankurou: ...right.
シー『雷影様すぐにでもキラービーを探す手配をつけましょう! 
”暁”が八尾と九尾を狙っているなら奴らもまだビーを執拗に追ってるはずです』
Shii: Raikage-sama, let us quickly act to search for Killer Bee! Akatsuki will be aiming for the Hachibi and Kyuubi and will certainly be persistant.
雷影『うむ! シーすぐに捜索隊を編成してビーを探させるよう里に連絡しておけ!』
Raikage: Yes, Shii, put together a search party and inform the rest of the village to look out for Bee.
シー『ハッ!』
Shii: Yes sir!
ダルイ『サムイ小隊にも すぐ知らせてやんなきゃな オモイもカルイも落ち込んでたからさ』
Darui: We must also inform Samui's team too since Omoi and Karui took the news of Bee hard.
Part 2
水影『マダラの”月の眼計画”とやらを阻止するらめには 絶対に八尾と九尾を渡してはダメです  だから八尾 と九尾をこちら連合軍で先に見つけ出して隠しておくがベストだと思われますが…』
Mizukage: In order to prevent Madara's "Eye of the Moon" plan , we absolutely must not hand over the Hachibi and Kyuubi. I think it would be best if the allied forces went ahead and located the Hachibi and Kyuubi and hid them.
ガアラ『…』
Gaara: ...
長十朗『そ…その通りです!もし”十尾”とかが復活なんかした日には…』
Choojuurou: E...exactly! If the day something like the Juubi were to be revived...
土影『いや…マダラの持つ七体の尾獣が集まった力は想像もできん…それに尾獣を使った術や隠し 玉を持っとる やもしれんぜ』
Tsuchikage: No...to imagine the power 7 bijuu Madara has collected...and the jutsu using the bijuu.
赤土『でなけりゃ あんな強気には出て込んだに!』
Akatsuchi: We can't allow it, we can't let something that great out!
土影『ワシら忍連合軍も八尾と九尾の尾獣は戦力として計算した方がいいのではないか?』
Tsuchikage: Wouldn't it be best if we try and calculate our war potential as the allied forces, along with the Hachibi and Kyuubi.
ガアラ『それはダメだ これは二人を守る戦争でもある
マダラが集めた七体の尾獣で戦争を仕掛ける理由… おそらく弱っている今のマダラや
残りの”暁”メンバーだけでは八尾と九尾を捕えることが難しいからだ
できたとしてもリスクが大きすぎると考えた …それに戦争で二人をおびき出すためかもしれない 』
Gaara: That won't work, we must protect those two even if there is a war. There must be a reason to Madara waging a war with the 7 bijuu he's collected...Perhaps it is too hard for Madara, in his weakened state, and the rest of Akatsuki's members to seize the Hachibi and Kyuubi. Even if he were able, the risk is too great to imagine...moreover, if a war were to occur, he would expect that we would bring them out as weapons.
水影『私もそれがいいと思います』
Mizukage: I agree.
雷影『ワシも風影の意に同意だ! もしもの事を考えれば敵の前に八尾と九尾を
おいそれと出すわけにいかん! そもそも八尾であるワシの弟は作戦などという言葉には
縁遠い奴だ  何をしでかすか分からん… 逆に戦場が混乱するかもしれんしな!』
Raikage: I also share the same sentiments with the Kazekage! If you think about it, we absolutely should not bring the Hachibi and Kyuubi out right in front of the enemy. In the first place, the Hachibi is my younger brother, and to use him in any sort of plan, it would have to fly by me first. He's too unpredictable...on the other hand he could also cause chaos on the battlefield.
ガアラ『九尾のナルトも同じだ』
Gaara: The 9-tails Naruto is the same.
カンクロウ『言えてるじゃん』
Kankurou: If you can say that.
はにかみテマリ『ハハ…だな…』
Temari, shyly: Haha...right...
水影『分かりました では八尾と九尾は保護拘束という事でどうです 土影様?』
Mizukage: Understood. So we shall protect and confine the Hachibi and Kyuubi then. Tsuchikage?
土影『…うむ…』
Tsuchikage: ...yes...
雷影『岩・霧・砂・木の葉にはキラービーの情報を提供する それを元に
捜索チームを編成し すぐに動け! 八尾は見つけ次第ワシのところへ
連絡がくるようにしろ 弟はワシの言う事ぐらいしか聞かん!
それと風影…さっきのカカシの件頼むぞ』
Raikage: I shall offer information on Bee to you then of the Rock, Mist, Sand, and Leaf. With that we shall form search teams and move! Report information back to me as his older brother if you find the Hachibi. My younger brother will only listen to me! And Kazekage...about Kakashi, we're leaving that to you.
ガアラ『ああ…』
Gaara: Right...
Part 3
雷影『ここに来る道中で はたけカカシと九尾の人柱力のガに会った
まだこの鉄の国にいるかもしれん… まずはこの国から探してみろ』
Raikage: Along the way here I met Hatake Kakashi and the Jinchuuriki of the Kyuubi. They are probably still here in the Land of Iron...you should search this land first.
ガアラ『了解した』
Gaara: Understood.
ミフネ『…』
Mifune: ...
長十朗『あ…あの…ちょっといいですか?』
Choojuurou: U...um...may I say something?
雷影『何だ?』
Raikage: What?
長十朗『あ…ハイ… あの…その…』
Choojuurou: Y...yes...Um...so...
雷影『さっさと話せ!』
Raikage: Come out and say it!
長十朗『あ…”暁”にはまだ ボク7と同じ 忍刀七人衆の
干柿鬼鮫がいます… その人は…人柱力並のチャクラ量と…
…七人衆の刀の中でも最悪な”鮫肌”を持っていて… 刀と融合すると人間でありながら
人柱力に近い力を発揮する 尾をもたない尾獣だって…先輩達から聞きました
あいつは特別だって… 決してなめないほうが…』
Choojuurou: A...among the Akatsuki, is one of us of the 7 Swordsman, Hoshigake Kisame...that man...has the chakra capacity equal to that of a Jinchuuriki...and among the 7 swordsman, wielded Samehada, a terrible sword...if he fuses with his sword he can utilize power comparable of a Jinchuuriki as well. Like a bijuu without a tail...from what I heard from my senpai, he was a special one...By no means, do not underestimate him...
土影『そんな事は分かっとる! それより…本当にそれでええのか?
マダラの操るであろう 七体の尾獣の力は未知じゃぜ…
もし八尾と九尾を拘束して ワシら忍連合軍が二人を守ったところで…
その連合軍が全滅しては意味がない  だったらじゃぜ…
はなから二人を参戦させ 忍連合軍と協力戦を仕掛けた方が有利だと思うがの』
Tsuchikage: We know that! More than that...is that really ok? Madara is pulling the strings right. The power of the 7 bijuu is not yet known to us...if we restrain the Hachibi and Kyuubi, and the place where we, the allied forces are protecting those two...if we are to be annihilated, there would be no meaning. I think it would be to our benefit if the allied forces used those two at the tip of this war.
雷影『…』
Raikage: ...
ミフネ『それはどうかな?』
Mifune: I wonder about that.
土影『?』
Tsuchikage: ?
ミフネ『今ここに世界初の忍連合軍が出来つつある その力もまた未知数…
マダラが七体の尾獣の力を使用するにもリスクがあるハズだ でなければ
ここへ来てわざわざ交渉を持ちかけたりはしない 向こうにも不利な条件があるのでござろう
それにこの戦争我々侍も参戦する! 土影殿…これでもまだ心配事がおありか?』
Mifune: This is the first time an allied force has been able to come about. This power is again not yet known...there is certain risk that Madara will use the power of the 7 bijuu. He won't come here to make negotiations and it would not be in his favor to make such terms, am I right. Besides, we samurai will also participate in this war! Tsuchikage-dono...even with this, do you still have reservations?
笑顔土影『フン』
Tsuchikage laughing: Hm.

倒れてる侍達を見ながら水月『雷影や風影も上へ行ったようだしさ
やっぱさきに行ったんだよ サスケもカリンも オレ達も上に行ってみる?』
While looking at the fallen samurai, Suigetsu: Raikage and Kazekage both seem to have gone up there. As I thought, Sasuke and Karin went up there before them. Shall we go up and take a look?
重吾『だが警戒されている…すぐに見つかるぞ』
Juugo: But they've probably been warned...we would be found quickly.
水月『ならさ… いい方法があるんだけど…』
Suigetsu: In that case...I have a good plan but...

横たわる白ゼツ
White Zetsu laying down.
黒土『何だったんだ急にコイツ!キモイなあもう!』
Akatsuchi: What happened to this guy! Gross!

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Part 4
サブちゃん師匠ノリノリで♪『忍びいい~~忍んでえええ~~
忍び泣きいいいい~~~~♪』
Master Sabu-chan: Shinobiii~~shinobi~~shinobi weepinggg~~~♪
サブちゃん師匠は、パンチパーマの侍ヘアー(笑)
Master Sabu-chan has samurai hair and a punch-perm (laugh)

眼を大きく開きサブちゃん師匠『ただ歌うんじゃない 演歌とは情を込めた
魂だからよっ!  ホイ!ここまでやってみなよっ!』
Master Sabu-chan, whose eyes are opening wide: That was just singing right, including Enya's feelings and soul! Hoi! Try it from there!
ビー『ヤア! 忍びー♪忍んでエイエイ♪ 死期延びたアアア~~~』
Bee: Ya! Shinobi--shinobiiii. Postposing our time of deathh~~♪
ウッエッサイマークを我慢してるビー。。。
Bee enduring the ウッエッサイマーク
我慢出来ず『ウイイイイ~~~イッイッイッイッイッ!!』
Unable to endure: Uiiii~~iiiiii~~
ドキドキしながらサブちゃん先生の意見を待つビー
Sabu-chan sways along, while Bee awaits his opinion.

怒り気味のサブちゃん師匠『情念がないのよう情念がよっ!!
歌をなめてないかい?って事になっちゃわないかい? それじゃあよっ!』
Sensing fear, Sabu-chan: You have a passion for being passionless!! You're not going to sing it all? Is it going to be like that? That's it then!

少しびっくりビー『情念…?』
Bee, a little surprised: Passion...?
サブちゃん師匠『そう情念よっ! 演歌とは読んで字の如く情念で歌の世界を
演じることが大切よっ! あと小節なっ! もっとこう腹までかまえて鼻で回す
感じだからよっ!』
Master Sabu-chan: That's right, passion! Like the words that make up "Enya", if you want to be on the same level of passion in the world of music, performing is important! And then embellishment! More, from the nose all the way to the stomach turn those feelings!
サブちゃんペットのポン太 何かを感じる  ポン太は大きいアライグマみたい
Sabu-chan's pet Pon'oo* senses something. Pon'oo* is is big and looks like a badger.
サブちゃん師匠『どうしたポン太?』
Master Sabu-chan: What's wrong Pon'oo*?
[TN: ポン太 is the name of the dog. But I'm not sure what the reading for the 太 is, so for now, I will just refer to him as Pon'oo which could be a possible reading until a better picture or the furigana for his name is released]


雪の降る中、座りながら瞑想ナルト
Snow falling, Naruto sits in meditation.
ナルト(今まで通りやってたら サスケ探しても見つかりっこねエ…
仙人モード使うしかねーってばよ… まずは持続時間上げねーと!)
Naruto: (If I continue doing what I have been doing until now, even is I search and look for Sasuke, it's of no use...there's no choice but to use Sennin mode...first I must raise the duration time!
そこにヤマト『ナルトそろそろ入って来い!』
Also there, Yamato: Naruto, come back in soon!
仙人モードになるナルト『!』(ん?)
Naruto goes into Sennin mode: !
カカシ『…』
Kakashi: ...

キバ『やっと見つけたぜ!』
Kiba: We've finally found you!
ナルト『サクちゃん…!サイにキバ…ゲジマユまで』
Naruto: Saku-chan...! Sai and Kiba...fuzzy eyebrows even.
カカシ『何でお前達ここへ来たの?』
Kakashi: Why did you guys come here?
ヤマト『?』
Yamato: ?
サクラ『ナルト… アンタに話があるの…』
Sakura: Naruto...I have something I need to talk to you about...
ナルト『…?』
Naruto: ...?
Part 5
サブちゃん師匠『お前は誰だよっ!?』
Master Sabu-chan: Who are you!?
ビー『”暁”って奴らだ サブちゃん師匠
私用で少々時間がかかるがしょうがないすぐに消滅させようか』
Bee: It's Akatsuki Master Sabu-chan. It will take some of your personal time, but there's no way around it, let's terminate him quickly.
鬼鮫『ずいぶんと探しましたよ 八尾
私の大刀”鮫肌”は強いチャクラが大好きでしてね おいしそうな
チャクラのニオイをやっと嗅ぎつけたみたいで…
悪いですが この”鮫肌”のエサになってもらいますよ
なに殺しゃしませんがね』
Kisame: It took a while to find you Hachibi. My blade Samehada likes strong chakra. Seems delicious, the smell of your chakra, and to finally get the chance to taste it...Sorry but I'll have you become fish bait for my Samehada. But of course I won't kill you.

キラービーVS鬼鮫!!
Killer Bee VS Kisame!!

終わり。サーセイ★
Done. The pictures are also out, So it is confirmed. Guess from now on Naruto's gonna be using Sage Mode to locate people.

Lorde
15th October 2009, 2:02 AM
The spoilers are true. So I suppose Kisame will get to fight again, unless they skip this fight as they did with the Four-tails.

Mawile XD
15th October 2009, 3:52 AM
I'm going to hazard a guess that Killerbee is captured, mainly because it's a lot more dramatic when Naruto is the last jinchuriki. However, I can't see Killerbee dying. =/

Lorde
15th October 2009, 4:59 AM
I'm going to hazard a guess that Killerbee is captured, mainly because it's a lot more dramatic when Naruto is the last jinchuriki. However, I can't see Killerbee dying. =/

Of course it would be more dramatic. Naruto is the main character afterall.

He might aswell be the last Jinchuriki then things will get wild.

uber gon
15th October 2009, 10:30 PM
Wonder what unique (if broken) solution Naruto will use to stay in Sage Mode?

Shneak
15th October 2009, 10:32 PM
I'm going to hazard a guess that Killerbee is captured, mainly because it's a lot more dramatic when Naruto is the last jinchuriki. However, I can't see Killerbee dying. =/

Most likely. I won't be surprised if Konoha is destoyed again by Akatsuki.

Rashdan
15th October 2009, 10:34 PM
It would suck if Killer Bee dies; right now, he's probably the closest key for Naruto learning to control the Kyuubi, unless he finds a way himself, miraculously.

If he finds a way to extend Sage mode beyond his current limitations, that'd be sweet too, although at the moment, he seems to be using it just to locate Sasuke.

Lorde
16th October 2009, 2:02 AM
It would suck if Killer Bee dies; right now, he's probably the closest key for Naruto learning to control the Kyuubi, unless he finds a way himself, miraculously.

If he finds a way to extend Sage mode beyond his current limitations, that'd be sweet too, although at the moment, he seems to be using it just to locate Sasuke.

I do not think Naruto will learn how to control the fox. A lot of people have told him not to rely on it's power.

Killer Bee will die. I do not think he would be revived.

Shadow Lucario
16th October 2009, 4:40 AM
Most likely. I won't be surprised if Konoha is destoyed again by Akatsuki.

There is nothing to destroy really. They're still building unless they can rebuild the whole village in a couple of days.

Lorde
16th October 2009, 4:55 AM
Most likely. I won't be surprised if Konoha is destoyed again by Akatsuki.

Well the village is in ruins, but maybe Akatsuki will target the villagers.

Shadow Lucario
16th October 2009, 5:07 AM
Well, no Naruto next week. Kishi is collecting data. Interesting chapter. Seems like both Kakashi and Sakumo are very well known, the latter more than the former. Glad to see Kirabi taking some music lessons. He needs them

Lorde
16th October 2009, 5:09 AM
I doubt Danzo will go down without a fight.

The fusion of Kisame and Samehada sounds interesting... it can absorb chakra right?

What do you mean by "it"? Samehada can absorb Chakra, but Kisame cannot.

He has yet to try absorbing Chakra on his own anyway...

Atoyont
16th October 2009, 5:46 AM
Well, no Naruto next week. Kishi is collecting data. Interesting chapter. Seems like both Kakashi and Sakumo are very well known, the latter more than the former. Glad to see Kirabi taking some music lessons. He needs them
Sakumo was disgraced, (and he's been dead for some time), so that's probably why he's not quite as well known. Plus he's kind of been eclipsed by his son.

What do you mean by "it"? Samehada can absorb Chakra, but Kisame cannot.

He has yet to try absorbing Chakra on his own anyway...
I meant Samehada lol.

Rashdan
16th October 2009, 6:17 AM
I do not think Naruto will learn how to control the fox. A lot of people have told him not to rely on it's power.

Killer Bee will die. I do not think he would be revived.
Well, if he can control its power, he can avoid harming the people around him. That's the only reason he stopped relying on it.

Shadow Lucario
16th October 2009, 6:46 AM
Well, if he can control its power, he can avoid harming the people around him. That's the only reason he stopped relying on it.

That and it shortens his life span

Lorde
16th October 2009, 7:04 AM
Well, if he can control its power, he can avoid harming the people around him. That's the only reason he stopped relying on it.

If he learns to control it, it may help, but I think he'll master Sage Mode instead. Much safer.

lucky_u
16th October 2009, 9:08 AM
If he learns to control it, it may help, but I think he'll master Sage Mode instead. Much safer.

Sage Mode have too much drawbacks, though. I really hope Naruto can figure everything to overcome its weakness.

Lorde
16th October 2009, 9:12 AM
Sage Mode have too much drawbacks, though. I really hope Naruto can figure everything to overcome its weakness.

What are the drawbacks?

Compared to the Kyuubi, which shortens Naruto's lifespan, Sage Mode is the clear choice.

HoennMaster
16th October 2009, 11:29 AM
Going back to Konoha, Yamato was shown to have rebuilt a lot of buildings following the invasion.

Lorde
16th October 2009, 11:45 AM
Some of the buildings have been rebuilt. Though the village still remains in ruins. Pain's Shinra Tensei was strong.

arceus7
16th October 2009, 4:58 PM
Naruto is going to air on Disney XD which is different from Disney. This version of the dub is going to be the same as it is on Itunes.

lucky_u
16th October 2009, 6:00 PM
What are the drawbacks?

Compared to the Kyuubi, which shortens Naruto's lifespan, Sage Mode is the clear choice.

Sage Mode contains fatal weakness, which could easily got someone killed if not careful.

First of all, Naruto can't do fusion with frogs, which limits the amount of chakra he could use. Although he use clones as alternative, the number of clones he can use in Sage Mode is limited, making his strategy harder to be carried out.

Being perfectly still becomes harder for Naruto to do his job. He will have to rely on clones to collect chakra, which will also limit his strategy.
This also means prolonged fight will exhausts Naruto and with times of replenishing Sage chakra limited, he will be a easy target.

And when exits Sage Mode, Naruto will be exhausted. Without companion, he would be dead.

These weakness make Naruto to try and lengthen the duration of his Sage Mode in the recent chapter.

TsukiMirage
16th October 2009, 7:15 PM
Damn, KH 358/2 is addictive. Anyway, Average chapter, Although quite different from what the spoiler lead us to believe. Can't wait to see what Suigetsu and Juugo get up too.


Sage Mode contains fatal weakness, which could easily got someone killed if not careful. The same is true for the Kyuubi cloak. Sage Mode is just to give Naruto an extra edge if needed. It's not meant to be used in every single fight.


First of all, Naruto can't do fusion with frogs, which limits the amount of chakra he could use. Although he use clones as alternative, the number of clones he can use in Sage Mode is limited, making his strategy harder to be carried out. True, Naruto can't use the Toads, But he doesn't need to. As shown with Deva Pain, He can carry out his strategies just fine regardless of the limits.


Being perfectly still becomes harder for Naruto to do his job. He will have to rely on clones to collect chakra, which will also limit his strategy.
This also means prolonged fight will exhausts Naruto and with times of replenishing Sage chakra limited, he will be a easy target. Naruto has been shown to have an easy time popping into Sage Mode. It doesn't take that much work for him. In Universe, Most fights don't last that long. His fight with Pain was basically him against several different opponents. He won't have to worry about something like that again.


And when exits Sage Mode, Naruto will be exhausted. Without companion, he would be dead. That's not entirely true. The Kyuubi would heal him after a short while. Plus, Naruto has been shown like that after several of his big fights before he even got Sage Mode. Naruto was only exhausted because he had been fighting for so long. As shown during his last fight with Deva Pain, Naruto can just as easily continue to fight when he switches back to normal. Agnyway, Naruto won't have to worry about such a thing now that Pain is died.


These weakness make Naruto to try and lengthen the duration of his Sage Mode in the recent chapter. Actually, What Naruto was probably gonna try was to locate Sasuke's chakra as he did before with Kakashi and Nagato. Sage Mode heightens his sense, So in theory, He should be able to find Sasuke. Of course we know that won't work yet.

uber gon
16th October 2009, 7:39 PM
It's official, pandas are badass.:p

Rashdan
16th October 2009, 7:43 PM
Actually, according to the chapter, he said something about "extending Sage mode's duration". And then try to find Sasuke with it.

And the Kyuubi does shorten his lifespan, yes, but when used excessively. If the battle doesn't last long, which it shouldn't with the help of the Kyuubi, then he should be able to keep himself going.

Blaziryu
16th October 2009, 9:15 PM
LOL for Suigetsu & Jugo getting left behind. I wonder what they're going to do now. I'm surprise how Sakura, Sai, Lee, & Kiba were able to reach the Iron Country that fast. I can't wait to the Killer Bee vs. Kisame battle. It's going to be intense!

Shneak
16th October 2009, 10:08 PM
A two week wait for Kisame vs. Bee. Better be good.

uber gon
16th October 2009, 10:16 PM
Wonder if Suigetsu and Juugo wil start some form of Naruto bromance? Nothing suggestive, but it seems they get along better than before.

Kamex
17th October 2009, 12:53 AM
I don't think Danzo is out of the story yet. That would be way too sudden after everything he went through.

Madara sure is using Hawk for his own ends. They don't seem to be able to carry out their own plans (which keep changing anyway).

Finally get to see the Enka ninja. Hm, I thought it was a group of ninja rather than just one. Anyway, Kisame has a sense of humor and Killer Bee is a joker, so this fight should be amusing.

Looks like we're finally approaching the climax of the entire story. I'm guessing in the next several volumes Naruto will be complete.

Lorde
17th October 2009, 1:50 AM
Sage Mode contains fatal weakness, which could easily got someone killed if not careful.

First of all, Naruto can't do fusion with frogs, which limits the amount of chakra he could use. Although he use clones as alternative, the number of clones he can use in Sage Mode is limited, making his strategy harder to be carried out.

Being perfectly still becomes harder for Naruto to do his job. He will have to rely on clones to collect chakra, which will also limit his strategy.
This also means prolonged fight will exhausts Naruto and with times of replenishing Sage chakra limited, he will be a easy target.

And when exits Sage Mode, Naruto will be exhausted. Without companion, he would be dead.

These weakness make Naruto to try and lengthen the duration of his Sage Mode in the recent chapter.

All of these "drawbacks" are similar to the Kyuubi's drawbacks.

Sage mode doesn't last very long while Naruto uses it, but it is very effective. He defeated Pain using Sage Mode.

Besides, he is training in order to increase it's duration.

Shadow Lucario
17th October 2009, 2:15 AM
He defeated Pain using Sage Mode.

If you want to go into detail, Naruto technically beat five Pains in Sage Mode. He killed Deva Path in his regular state with the help of his clones and knowing Deva Path's power and the five second interval.

Naruto should be thankful of Mizuki.

Torpoleon
17th October 2009, 2:16 AM
Looks like we will have to wait until Oct. 29, 2009 for Chapter 469 then. Hopefully Kisame VS Killer Bee would be good. I just want Killer Bee to get captured, with the 8 tailed beast getting extracted. I want Naruto to be the last jinchuruki. I think that this whole Naruto series would end around Chapter 500. Already, seven tailed beasts are captured, with two more left and twenty one chapters until Chapter 500, so that would sound pretty reasonable, right?

Lorde
17th October 2009, 2:21 AM
If you want to go into detail, Naruto technically beat five Pains in Sage Mode.

Pain is what I call all 7; the 6 paths and Nagato.

True, Naruto didn't defeat Deva Path using SM but he defeated most of Pain's bodies while using SM.

MidnightMelody
17th October 2009, 2:28 AM
So wait....Who is the 6th Hokage????

Lorde
17th October 2009, 2:35 AM
So wait....Who is the 6th Hokage????

Danzo.

If he flees Konoha, then Tsunade will take over, as the fifth Hokage.

If she cannot, then they'll choose someone else.

arceus7
17th October 2009, 3:27 AM
I really want to hold Kisame Vs Bee for the chapter where naruto talks to sakura and everyone finds out about madara's plans

Shadow Lucario
17th October 2009, 4:00 AM
Looks like we will have to wait until Oct. 29, 2009 for Chapter 469 then. Hopefully Kisame VS Killer Bee would be good. I just want Killer Bee to get captured, with the 8 tailed beast getting extracted. I want Naruto to be the last jinchuruki. I think that this whole Naruto series would end around Chapter 500. Already, seven tailed beasts are captured, with two more left and twenty one chapters until Chapter 500, so that would sound pretty reasonable, right?

Kishimoto wants Naruto to be longer than Dragonball and Dragonball is a little over 500 chapters. I think there are probably going to be about fifty more chapters of Naruto and then the series will end.

Lorde
17th October 2009, 5:07 AM
I really want to hold Kisame Vs Bee for the chapter where naruto talks to sakura and everyone finds out about madara's plans

I would like this fight to last at least a few chapters. I want to see Kisame in action. Most of the Jinchuriki are captured without the fight being shown.

MidnightMelody
17th October 2009, 5:40 AM
Tusnade has a chance of liveing???? I thought she died. Ok. I do think though she should live. Jiraiya died to mature Naruto while Orochimaru died cuz...well he is evil and all evil in anime either dies or gets casted somehwere else. But sakura is mature enough so I want Tsunade to stay alive till the end.

Lorde
17th October 2009, 5:45 AM
Tusnade has a chance of liveing???? I thought she died. Ok. I do think though she should live. Jiraiya died to mature Naruto while Orochimaru died cuz...well he is evil and all evil in anime either dies or gets casted somehwere else. But sakura is mature enough so I want Tsunade to stay alive till the end.

What....Tsunade isn't dead. She's in a coma.

Jiraiya didn't die to make Naruto mature.

bigpop618
17th October 2009, 7:08 AM
I wonder how long this break will be? Will they just skip a week? I really want to see the Kisame-Killerbee fight.

HoennMaster
17th October 2009, 8:39 AM
Yes, more then one person has stated it's just one week.

~Spacial_Rendation~
17th October 2009, 8:53 AM
These are the two outcomes I see is this

1. Kisame extracts the beast from Killer Bee, killing him, Naruto & Friends chase him maybe defeat him and Killer Bee will get a case of I Got Better (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IGotBetter)

2. Killer Bee will pull a Deux Ex Machina (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeusExMachina) and gain God Mode powers and defeat Kisame.

So predictable.

Lorde
17th October 2009, 9:17 AM
These are the two outcomes I see is this

1. Kisame extracts the beast from Killer Bee, killing him, Naruto & Friends chase him maybe defeat him and Killer Bee will get a case of I Got Better (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IGotBetter)

2. Killer Bee will pull a Deux Ex Machina (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeusExMachina) and gain God Mode powers and defeat Kisame.

So predictable.

What is this I don't even.....

God Mode? Sounds interesting but I assume you're joking?;492-s;

~Spacial_Rendation~
17th October 2009, 9:30 AM
No.

The Beasts are creatures with God-like Power. Therfore going into a Tail mode is God Moding.

Lorde
17th October 2009, 9:35 AM
No.

The Beasts are creatures with God-like Power. Therfore going into a Tail mode is God Moding.

If they were God-like and they wielded God-like powers, I'd assume that they'd be able to resist capture.

NoDice
17th October 2009, 12:02 PM
If they were God-like and they wielded God-like powers, I'd assume that they'd be able to resist capture.

Thats just nitpicking... and plus everyone knows the beasts are more like demons than gods?

As dumb as it sounds, Im kind of interested in what Naruto's reaction will be to what Sakura says?

Im also wondering, what will happen to Suigetsu and Juugo since Madara just kind of left them stranded... without Sasuke or Karin... and after getting their asses handed to them.

TsukiMirage
17th October 2009, 1:17 PM
What....Tsunade isn't dead. She's in a coma.
Jiraiya didn't die to make Naruto mature. Jiraiya did basically die in order to force Naruto to mature. It was because of is death that the Toads decide to train Naruto as a sage and it motivated Naruto to find another way to defeat Nagato without killing him. That said, Tsunade's death would be pointless for Sakura's maturation. She doesn't play any actual role in the way of things. Nope, The only way I see Tsunade dying is in order to revive Naruto after the Kyuubi's removal.


Thats just nitpicking... and plus everyone knows the beasts are more like demons than gods?

As dumb as it sounds, Im kind of interested in what Naruto's reaction will be to what Sakura says?

Im also wondering, what will happen to Suigetsu and Juugo since Madara just kind of left them stranded... without Sasuke or Karin... and after getting their asses handed to them. Technically, The Tail Beast would probably be consider kamis or nature gods. I don't have much hope for Sakura convincing Naruto to give up on Sasuke. Because really, It's been such a long time since he ever mention him chasing Sasuke was for her sake. Plus I can't see Naruto abandoning Sasuke after what he just leaned. Suigetsu seems like he has a plan to get away. I'm hoping this time away from Sasuke will give use a little more on those two.

Lorde
17th October 2009, 1:50 PM
The only way I see Tsunade dying is in order to revive Naruto after the Kyuubi's removal.

(!)

I don't think that would happen. Too many people seem to believe that the Kyuubi will stay within Naruto. Not many are fans of the whole Naruto dying then being revived scenario.

TsukiMirage
17th October 2009, 2:09 PM
(!)

I don't think that would happen. Too many people seem to believe that the Kyuubi will stay within Naruto. Not many are fans of the whole Naruto dying then being revived scenario. There are several things that point to the Kyuubi being removed:
1) Gaara being revive showing use that it was possible.
2) Minato mentioning the reason he put the Kyuubi inside Naruto was to counter Madara, meaning that once Madara is gone it won't be needed anymore.
3) The fact that the more power Naruto uses of the Kyuubi, The more he shortens his own life.
4) The revelation of the Juubi.
5) Naruto learning Sage Mode, Which gives him powers equal to using the Kyuubi.
6) The Kyuubi being the force that is preventing Naruto from fully using Sage Mode.
7) Not really a point but, The Kyuubi is a great liability against the Sharingan.
I would say the odds are more in favor of him losing it, Because really, It doesn't matter no more. He no longer uses it. Even it's healing ability has been phased out. What would be the point of him being a Jinchuuriki when he has already overcome it.

Shneak
17th October 2009, 2:39 PM
Looks like we're finally approaching the climax of the entire story. I'm guessing in the next several volumes Naruto will be complete.

I didn't think of that.

Lorde
17th October 2009, 2:44 PM
There are several things that point to the Kyuubi being removed:
1) Gaara being revive showing use that it was possible.
2) Minato mentioning the reason he put the Kyuubi inside Naruto was to counter Madara, meaning that once Madara is gone it won't be needed anymore.
3) The fact that the more power Naruto uses of the Kyuubi, The more he shortens his own life.
4) The revelation of the Juubi.
5) Naruto learning Sage Mode, Which gives him powers equal to using the Kyuubi.
6) The Kyuubi being the force that is preventing Naruto from fully using Sage Mode.
7) Not really a point but, The Kyuubi is a great liability against the Sharingan.
I would say the odds are more in favor of him losing it, Because really, It doesn't matter no more. He no longer uses it. Even it's healing ability has been phased out. What would be the point of him being a Jinchuuriki when he has already overcome it.

You'll have quite a dilemma later on when you try to get others to accept the idea that the main character could and might die.

It is possible and highly likely that he could be revived but the whole thing sounds hollow.

~Heaven Help Us~
17th October 2009, 3:03 PM
I'd rather see what Sakura has to tell Naruto instead of Kirabii vs Kisame.

Lorde
18th October 2009, 12:31 AM
Something along the lines of "love" and/or "Sasuke" I assume.

HoennMaster
18th October 2009, 4:37 AM
Kisame extracts the beast from Killer Bee, killing him, Naruto & Friends chase him maybe defeat him and Killer Bee will get a case of I Got Better (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/IGotBetter)

He needs the other members for that, he can't do it by himself.