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MistyLover
24th November 2006, 2:50 PM
Hey everyone, i will get Diamond and pearl but i am going to start with Diamond, so i will post my pokemon, and please suggest anything!!!

;389; Dotaitos

Leaf Storm
Earthquake
Crunch
Curse

;398; Mukuhawk

In Fight
Brave Bird
Return
Fly

;350; Milotic OR ;230; Kingdra

Surf-------------------Surf
Ice Beam--------------Ice Beam
Toxic------------------Dragon Pulse
Aqua Ring--------------Toxic

;405; Rentoraa

Thunder Fang
Crunch
Giga Attack
Thunder Wave

;282; Gardevoir

Calm Mind
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball

;197;

Moonlight
Confuse Ray
Crunch
Take Down


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Armored Zangoose
24th November 2006, 3:18 PM
No you should not swap Rapidash for Agunomuu but maybe for a dragon.
Don't change Dotaitos.
Rentoraa
Discharge
Ice Fang
Fire Fang
Thunder Wave

If Gardevoir hasn't evolved yet, evolve it into erureido instead and give it this moveset:

Erureido Scope Lens
Psycho Cutter
In Fight
Blade Test/Leaf Blade
Swords Dance/ Focus Energy

Other than that it's good. Oh and if you already have Gardevoir, don't change it.

MistyLover
24th November 2006, 4:10 PM
I have decided to swap Rapidash with Umbreon, is it any good? And I will never evolve Kirlia to Erureido, Gardevoir is way too good.

Thanks for your comments any more suggestions?

Armored Zangoose
24th November 2006, 4:15 PM
I use Umbreon all the time trust me, it is the best choice for a tank, and it's got okay attack/special attack to still have attacking moves:

Umbreon Leftovers
Moonlight
Dark Pulse
Protect
Psychic

DSDark
24th November 2006, 4:16 PM
I have decided to swap Rapidash with Umbreon, is it any good? And I will never evolve Kirlia to Erureido, Gardevoir is way too good.

Thanks for your comments any more suggestions?

Erureido is an amazing pokemon you should consider him over Gardevoir

Armored Zangoose
24th November 2006, 4:27 PM
If your using Umbreon instead of Rapidash, why is there a Murkrow in your first post instead?

MistyLover
24th November 2006, 4:45 PM
If your using Umbreon instead of Rapidash, why is there a Murkrow in your first post instead?

Oops. tiny mistake corrected it *punches myself hard*

I like the idea of Dark Pulse, thank you! But should Umbreon need Protect? And is Psychic any good, since its Special Attack is only "ok"?

Im sorry, Im a Gardevoir lover, not a fan of Erureido, Gardevoir can win him by a Shadow Ball!!

Armored Zangoose
24th November 2006, 5:06 PM
Feel free to replace Protect with Shadow ball or another attack. Psychic isn't necessary but a nice attack to throw in.

MistyLover
24th November 2006, 7:30 PM
Whose better, Milotic or Kingdra??????

DSDark
24th November 2006, 7:33 PM
there both good its just up to u

Armored Zangoose
24th November 2006, 10:50 PM
There both good pokemo to use, but I prefer a Milotic with:

Milotic Leftovers
Surf
Aqua Ring/Recover
Iron Tail
Ice Beam

DSDark
24th November 2006, 11:04 PM
There both good pokemo to use, but I prefer a Milotic with:

Milotic Leftovers
Surf
Aqua Ring/Recover
Iron Tail
Ice Beam

yeah that's not a good idea cuz you have two special and two physical move there, try a move set with two to three special/physical which ever Milotic is best at and then one to two special moves

Swellow_91
24th November 2006, 11:05 PM
Whose better, Milotic or Kingdra??????

Milotic outclasses Kingdra.

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold nature
- Rest
- Sleep talk
- Ice Beam
- Surf

Kingdra @ Leftovers
Modest nature
Trait : Swift Swim
- Surf
- Rain Dance
- Ice beam
- Toxic / Dragon Pulse

Armored Zangoose
24th November 2006, 11:13 PM
Milotic Leftovers
Aqua Tail
Iron Tail
recover Swords Dance

Atleast I think Aqua tail is physical...

ShinyFufu
24th November 2006, 11:18 PM
Milotic outclasses Kingdra.

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold nature
- Rest/ Recover
- Sleep talk/Hypnosis
- Toxic/Ice Beam
- Surf

Kingdra @ Leftovers
Modest nature
Trait : Swift Swim
- Surf
- Rain Dance
- Ice beam
- Toxic / Dragon Pulse

On the Milotic set, use Toxic with Rest and Sleep Talk, and use Ice Beam and Hypnosis with Recover.


Milotic Leftovers
Aqua Tail
Iron Tail
recover Swords Dance

Atleast I think Aqua tail is physical...

NO.

*Jean Grey*
25th November 2006, 12:34 PM
It is not a good idea to give Milotic physical moves, its Attack is way bad, only 60 if you want it offensive, give it Dragon Pulse

MistyLover
25th November 2006, 1:30 PM
Thanks a lot....

~Sirnight~
25th November 2006, 3:55 PM
You people need me here.

Dotaitos@LEftovers
Impish
-Curse
-EQ
-Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
-Stone Edge/Leech Seed

Rentoraa@LEftovers
Adamant
-Ice Fang
-Spark
-Howl
-Take Down/Return

Gardevior@Leftovers
Modest
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt
-Shadow Ball/WoW

Milotic@Leftovers
Bold
-Toxic/Rest
-Hypnosis/Recover/Sleep Talk
-Surf
-Ice Beam

Keep in mind here that Toxic/Hypno and Recover is one cset and RestTalk is another.

Girafarig Girl
25th November 2006, 5:15 PM
Omigosh. Don't listen to them. Erureido is NOT better than Gardevoir. I prefer this set for her:

Gardy @ Leftovers
Modest/Calm
Calm Mind
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Shadowball/Magical Leaf/Energy Ball

squirtleboy12
25th November 2006, 5:18 PM
umbreon is not good for attacking!
umbreon
-toxic
-double team
-confuse ray
-batton pass

Mr. Bikini fan
25th November 2006, 6:47 PM
Umbreon doesn't have good psychal attack powers but it only provides unltimate defences.

But it is not stronger as shuckle (If you know what i mean)


umbreon is not good for attacking!
umbreon
-toxic
-double team
-confuse ray
-batton pass

? Ok this is kind of like a wild pokemons move, you need either faint attack or secret power to get rid of baton pass, (You don't occasionally need it) i'd save the toxic move to shuckle if you played emerald.

Back too MistyLover's team

Gardevoir

Calm Mind
Psychic
Thunderbolt
Shadow Ball

If you bred it as an egg, i'd take of shadow ball (It hasnt got good atk as the obvious point) and put on the 3 pokemon that can learn destinybond in level or maybe you bred some who has destinybond.

If you don't set it to a destiny bond to your gardevoir, your team could be weak, i suggest to put it on and you'll be stronger.

~Sirnight~
25th November 2006, 7:42 PM
OK, Double Team is frowned upon, Baton PAss is NEEDED on an Umbreon.

Umbreon@Leftovers
Impish
-Baton Pass
-Curse
-Mean Look
-Moonlight

A preferd set, no DP moves, it is good as it is.

Swellow_91
25th November 2006, 8:49 PM
Dotaitos @ Leftovers
Adamant nature
- Curse
- Leech Seed
- Seed Bomb / Wood Hammer
- Earthquake

Mukuhawk @ Choice Band
Adamant nature
- Aerial Ace / Brave Bird
- In Fight
- Return
- Steel Wing / Quick attack

Milotic @ Leftovers
Bold nature
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Surf
- Ice beam / Toxic

Kingdra @ Leftovers
Modest nature
Trait : Swift Swim
- Rain Dance
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Dragon Pulse / Toxic

Rentoraa @ Leftovers
Adamant nature
- Howl
- Thunder Fang
- Thunder Wave
- Ice Fang / Fire Fang

Gardevoir @ Leftovers
Modest nature
- Calm Mind
- Hypnosis / Will-o-Wisp
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt / Shadow Ball

Umbreon @ Leftovers
Bold / Impish nature
- Mean Look
- Wish
- Baton Pass
- Toxic / Substitute