Oh no Machamp Uber?

[Ethan]

Well due to machamps new ability which allows all moves to be 100 percent accurate in double battles he will be uber because its going to be completely swamped with people using sheer cold and fissure, guillotine, zap cannon, and the rest of hard hitting moves that are inaccurte. In my opinion machamp will probably be doomed as an uber:(

[Somebody]

Machamp uber?


hahahahaha no.

No Armour doesn't work with OHKOs and Machamp is also really slow and not *that* sturdy. 2vs.2 is far too offensive for Machamp to compete, and it isn't the best thing ever in single battles either, and certainly not uber.

[ShinyManafi]

Probably not, maybe in-game, ;), or not, Machamp is too slow for that

[Cipher Admin Xaos]

I dont know....ice/thunder punch will get a boost from Machamps Attack so :0

[Ethan]

Yeah! That was close I like machamp alot by no means was I saying by his stats would he be an uber I dint know it didnt work with OHKOs thanx for clearing that up cuz a situation like this would suck

machamp used dynamic punch

lapras used sheer cold

2nd round same thing cuz machamp can usually take one hit from psychic or any super effective move for that matter with correct ev distribution.

ok thats all i needed to know this thread dies now.

[PumpedAaron]

GRAAHR!! no, it does not.

Anyway, Machamp is still gonna be great with the knew DP physics!

may not be UBER, but definitly Ultimate Fighter!

Dynamic Punch always hitting, (Pro/Detect aside)


may not be UBER, but definitly Ultimate Fighter! *Biceps pose*
Ice Punch to smash down that Salamence! *Most Muscular Pose*

[PrepXCore21]

Machamp is really good, iono but uber..lol but Machamp is a solid member to anyone's team

[Walking Contradiction]

Machamp got a lot better in the 4th gen, but he's not even close to being an Uber because he's way too slow for that.
Pokemon like Mewtwo and Rayquaza are Ubers, not Pokemon like Machamp. Plus, other Pokemon have gotten better too, not just Machamp.

[Polursine]

Lol! Machamp is only good for brief battles in which he can win!
And his new ability is only good for Dynamicpunch, Fire Blast and Focus Bomb!

[pikachu146]

Machamp can't be uber,his defenses are both average,not very high,and it is too slow.A super effective hit can kill it in 1-2 hits,before Machamp can attack. However,this ability can be useful on Machamp,while Dynamicpunch,Cross chop will be very accurate. But Machamp still won't be uber.

[O Fortuna]

Lol! Machamp is only good for brief battles in which he can win!
And his new ability is only good for Dynamicpunch, Fire Blast and Focus Bomb!

Yeah, you have fun running Fire Blast and Focus Bomb off that monstrously huge 65 base SAtk stat...

There are only really two benefits from No Armor but believe me, they're worth it. That's Dynamicpunch and Stone Edge.

[aipomkong]

the amount of people calling things uber without even using them in competitive battling is saddening

[Pax Deorum]

I signed on again just to post this
People only look at a pokemon's good aspect. OH MY GOD HIS MOVES DON'T MISS. OMG STAB 100% DYNAMIC PUNCH. Sure these moves are hard hitting but thing about it, Machamp is slow as **** and his defences are subpar to even last in OU let alone uber.
Now please don't come up with crap like DON'T HURT MACHAMP'S FEELINGS, HE SHOULD BE TREATED EQUAL as I've seen around there as I won't care and it won't make you look very smart.

Try thinking and using common sense before posting :idea:

[Quillz]

Has anyone found out yet if No Armor also means that attacks used against Machamp have 100 accuracy?

[~*Mudkip Fantastic*~]

Has anyone found out yet if No Armor also means that attacks used against Machamp have 100 accuracy?
That is exactly what it does. It doesn't mean it's attacks are 100% effective.

["L"]

Well lets not forget that the opponent would probably take advantage of this as well

[Night Avenger]

Well, if Machamp is an Uber its not because of that. Its because of Dynamicpunch. 100 base damage and sure to cause confusion. Now that's something to worry about.

[SHUCKLE MAN]

I just cannot see Machamp being uber. Why? Well, as about a dozen other people have said, it is just too slow. He may make it into Standard. iirc that was the case in GSC, but he wont be banned from Standard, under no circumstances although I do think Machoke will make it into NU, which will be nice.

[DarkHunter]

Well lets not forget that the opponent would probably take advantage of this as well
we only must wait..and pray for this is not true

[SHUCKLE MAN]

we only must wait..and pray for this is not true

I am distressed to say that I think it is true. *cries*

slazenjergal

[aipomkong]

Well, if Machamp is an Uber its not because of that. Its because of Dynamicpunch. 100 base damage and sure to cause confusion. Now that's something to worry about.

Cross Chop's critical hit rate is far more useful then the confusion caused by Dynamicpunch

[Ethan]

the amount of people calling things uber without even using them in competitive battling is saddening


Alright let me please clear some things up this post as long as others do not really need to be pointed out. 1rst the only reason I had for suspecting machamp to be uber was double battles because of the use of one hit KOs and thats it. My question was answered clearly. Please read all The replies before you post otherwise that is saddening. Hes not uber. Now I would really appreciate if people would not post on this thread it was meant for a question not a discussion. If theres a problem create another thread and argue amongst yourselves.

Thankyou.

["L"]

Hey this thing can be a discussion since were discussing the uber-ity of a pokemon. There are many opinions on this

[Rudoku]

Well lets not forget that the opponent would probably take advantage of this as well

Most things that do Machamp in are already 100% accurate (Psychic, Drill Peck, Aerial Ace), so not really. Unless you do something stupid like Double Team.

[Quillz]

That is exactly what it does. It doesn't mean it's attacks are 100% effective.
What? I don't understand what you just wrote. So, with No Guard, both Machamp and the foe have 100 accuracy?

[PokeDude101]

Harray Chanseys pre evo now Machamp :(
Who cares anyway as long as you use your brain you can beat the people who "cheat" by using ubers

[Jhonny]

Machamp will be made more powerful and versatile in d/p but he deffinately wont be an uber as the standard is set far too high

[Ophie]

Cross Chop's critical hit rate is far more useful then the confusion caused by Dynamicpunch

Considering the terrible luck I have concerning Critical Hits, I'd rather take advantage of Confusion. After all, it means either a slightly worse than a 50% success rate or a switch for your opponent, which is cool either way.

[aipomkong]

"cheat" by using ubers

I could write an essay explaining why that statement is wrong, but it'd be too much effort to do just for one person who would just complain that I just ruined his perception of ubers