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Turkeystein
7th December 2006, 2:24 AM
I have some guys here and I'm not sure which ones i should use on my team.
I was thinking Blaziken,Swampert,Steelix,Skarm,Snorlax and Blissey.
For a stratagey i guess Swampert and Blaziken sweep and switch between the special and physical walls frequently.

Blaziken@Salac Berry
-Endure
-Reversal
-Rock slide
-Overheat
Ev's-Atk & speed

Swampert@Chesto Berry
-Curse
-Rest
-Earthquake
-Physical attack/Ice Beam/Surf
Ev's-Attack & Speed?

Umbreon@Leftovers
-Mean Look
-Baton Pass
-Wish
-Toxic
Ev's-Defences & HP

Snorlax@Chesto Berry
-Rest
-Curse
-Shadow Ball/Earthquake
-Return
Ev's-Attack & HP

Skarmory@leftovers?
-Drill Peck
-Whirlwind
-Spikes
-Toxic
Ev's- Not a clue

Steelix@Leftovers
-Earthquake
-Explosion
-Toxic
-Rock Slide
Ev's- Hp & Attack

Blissey@Leftovers
-Softbioled
-Counter
-Ice Beam
-Heal Bell
Ev's- Def and ?

totallylost
7th December 2006, 2:33 AM
i like shadow ball on snorlax more than EQ

Leithsumbreon#1
7th December 2006, 3:27 AM
If your having blaziken sweeping give him this set : Sword dance,rockslide,flamethrower, and sky uppercut.

Surf over icebeam on swampert

Blissey@leftovers
Aromatherapy
Thunderwave
Seismic toss
Softboiled

Forretress Fan
7th December 2006, 3:38 AM
I think Umbreon needs either Bite or Crunch.

For a dark move can;'t remember if any of his moves r dark that u have now...


;munchlax; ;444;

Leithsumbreon#1
7th December 2006, 3:40 AM
Lol, his umbreon is fine. Umbreon is not ment to attack. This is how umbreon works: Mean look, toxic, wish, either stay and tank with wish or baton pass wish to another pokemon.

aragornbird
7th December 2006, 3:58 AM
I think Umbreon needs either Bite or Crunch.

For a dark move can;'t remember if any of his moves r dark that u have now...


;munchlax; ;444;
Bite sucks, Umbreon can't learn Crunch, and Umbreon shouldn't be using attack moves, so don't even think about it.

Drill Peck + Whirlwind on Skarm is ILLEGAL. Use Aerial Ace/Air Cutter + WW or DP + Roar.

Why would you use TWO special walls and TWO physical walls on one team? That's redudant and gives you a 4X Fighting weak (along with Umbreon). Replace Blissey with a Gengar or Dusclops and replace either Skarm or Steelix for another FAST sweeper (like Salamence, Starmie, etc.)

Sniper123
7th December 2006, 4:45 AM
Can we please have the natures on your guys.

aragornbird
7th December 2006, 4:47 AM
Can we please have the natures on your guys.
Some people don't care about natures. If they don't list them, don't ask for them (although you're free to suggest your own natures).

Frost Nova
7th December 2006, 7:01 AM
Aragornbird, if the thread owner cares about EVs chances are he's going to care about natures.

Blaziken@Salac Berry
Adamant / Lonely Nature
- Swords Dance
- Endure
- Reversal
- Overheat

it's still a straight KO for most things with Swords Danced Reversal, even with things that are resistant to fighting. EVs are 252 Atk / 212 Spd / 44 Spec. Atk.

Swampert@lefties
Relaxed Nature
- Curse
- Surf / Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Rest

OR

Swampert@lefties
Relaxed Nature
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Rest

EVs for both sets are 252 hp / 40 Atk / 142 Def / 76 Spec. Atk.

Umbreon@lefties
Impish / Relaxed Nature
- Wish
- Toxic
- Baton Pass
- Substitute / Protect

Why Relaxed? You want to be slow enough so when Umbreon BPs the Wish, it'll take the hit instead of the pokemon you want to heal. Substitute blocks status and other nasties like Leech Seed, and it can be BPed. Toxic helps deal secondary damage. EVs are 252 hp / 180 Def / 76 Spec. Def.

Curselax likes Earthquake more to deal with Steel types, who appear far more often than levitating ghosts ingame. EVs are 140 hp / 136 Atk / 136 Def / 96 Spec. Def.

Skarmory@lefties
Impish Nature
- Drill Peck / Aerial Ace
- Roar / Whirlwind
- Spikes
- Rest

Clerics own Toxishuffling. Rest help Skarm wall stuff longer and is generally more helpful. Drill Peck + Whirlwind are illegal moves together since they're both egg moves. Go with Drill Peck though: you'll be switching out against most things with Soundproof anyway (Electrode, Mr. Mime, probably Exploud). Go with 252 hp / 64 Atk / 192 Def.

Steelix@lefties
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Iron Tail / Rock Slide
- Toxic
- Rest

Simple physical wall: same reason why Rest is on Skarm. Explosion isn't a good idea on Steelix since you don't want to explode your physical wall, especially if it's your only form of normal / flying resistance. EVs are 252 hp / 40 Atk / 80 Def / 136 Spec. Def.

POKEMON KING LEAFGREEN
7th December 2006, 7:21 AM
More Sweeping... Less Tanking... I know Blissey has great HP but its base Def. is 10... Can it really withstand that many physical attacks???