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sin
9th December 2006, 9:40 PM
Dotaitos @
Overgrow; Adamant;
Leech Seed
Earthquake
Wood Hammer
Synthesis

Swampert @
Torrent;


Fuwaraido @
Acrobatic; Timid;
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Eerie Wind
Substitute


Cradily @ Leftovers
Suction Cups; Modest;
-Energy Ball
-Ancientpower
-Toxic
-Recover


Steelix @
Rock Head;


Forretress @
Sturdy;
Earthquake
Spikes
Rapid Spin
Explosion

I have alot of wholes. It also seems like they all serve the same purpose. Do I need more diversity. Are there any obvious weaknesses?

Frost Nova
9th December 2006, 10:10 PM
Dotaitos@lefties
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Seed Bomb
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge / Rest / Synthesis

Swampert@lefties
Relaxed Nature
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Ice Beam
- Rest

Swampert@lefties
Impish / Relaxed Nature
- Curse
- Waterfall / Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Rest

Nothing wrong with Furwaraido, though you can always use T-Bolt over Substitute if you don't really need it. Substitute's useful though since it's got a ton of hp.

Cradily@lefties
Calm / Careful / Sassy Nature
- Energy Ball / Earthquake
- Rock Slide / Ancientpower / Stone Edge
- Toxic
- Rest

Great special wall, especially against electrics. Bulky waters don't like Cradily inflicting Toxic on them or getting hit by Energy Ball. Juggle the natures around according to what moves you're going to be using. Try out the staller set, since Cradily is probably the only thing that can pull it off.

Cradily@lefties
Calm / Careful / Sassy Nature
- Toxic
- Amnesia
- Barrier
- Recover

As quoted from Smogon, industrial strength stalling BS. You can't be Roared or Whirlwinded out, just watch out for hazers, especially Weezing.

Cradily@lefties
Careful Nature
- Barrier
- Mirror Coat
- Recover
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge

This is a pretty fun set to use. Rock is advised over grass since there's a crapload of types that wall grass attacks out there.

Steelix@lefties
Impish Nature
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide / Stone Edge / Iron Tail
- Rest
- Stealth Rock

Forretress@lefties
Impish / Relaxed Nature
- Spikes / Poison Spikes
- Counter
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball / Explosion / Light Screen

Light Screen can prove to be useful since most people will try to switch in a special pokemon to kill Forry. Whatever it is, switch out if you think it has a fire move.

You don't really need two physical walls in your team. Pick either Steelix or Forry, but I'd pick Steelix IMO. What you really need is a special sweeper that could be on the receiving end of Fuwaraido's Calm Minds.

~Sirnight~
10th December 2006, 2:14 AM
Dotaitos @ Lefotvers
Overgrow; Adamant/Impish
Leech Seed/Stone Edge
Earthquake
Wood Hammer
Curse

Swampert @ Lefotvers
Torrent; Brave
Curse
Ice Punch/Ice Ball
EQ
Waterfall


Fuwaraido @ Hooked Spikes
Detonate; Timid;
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Eerie Wind
Substitute


Cradily @ Leftovers
Suction Cups; Bold/Calm;
-Energy Ball/Barrier
-Ancientpower/Barrier
-Toxic
-Recover


Steelix @ Lefotvers
Rock Head; Impish
Stealth Rock
Explosion
Roar
EQ/Rock Slide


Forretress @ Leftovers
Sturdy; Impish
Earthquake
Spikes
Rapid Spin
Explosion

I have alot of wholes. It also seems like they all serve the same purpose. Do I need more diversity. Are there any obvious weaknesses?

Thar, love the Fuwaraido.

sin
10th December 2006, 7:41 PM
Thanks for the help. Any advice on a special sweeper?

Freakshow
10th December 2006, 7:57 PM
Dotaitos @
Overgrow; Adamant;
Leech Seed/Stone Edge
Earthquake
Wood Hammer/Seed Bomb
Swords Dance

Swampert @ Leftovers
Torrent; Impish/Relaxed
- Earthquake
- Snow Slide
- Waterfall/Surf/Hydro Pump/Stealth Rock/Sleep Talk
- Rest

Fuwaraido @
Acrobatic; Timid;
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Eerie Wind
Substitute


Cradily @ Leftovers
Suction Cups; Calm/Sassy
-Energy Ball/Grass Rope
-Ancientpower/Stone Edge
-Toxic
-Recover
Grass Rope is kinda funny but it does have a 120 BP against stuff like Lax, while retaining it's 80-100 B.P for bulky waters.


Steelix @ Leftovers
Sturdy; Impish/Relaxed
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge/Iron Tail/Gyro Ball
- Stealth Rock
- Rest
If you run Relaxed, Gyro Ball becomes more effective

Forretress@lefties
Impish / Relaxed Nature
- Spikes / Poison Spikes
- Counter
- Earthquake
- Gyro Ball / Explosion / Light Screen

I have alot of wholes. It also seems like they all serve the same purpose. Do I need more diversity. Are there any obvious weaknesses?

Rock Slide Heracross

~Sirnight~
10th December 2006, 8:28 PM
Thanks for the help. Any advice on a special sweeper?

You need a special sweeper? Here are a couple of options:

Starmie@LEftovers
Modest
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Beam
-Surf/Power Gem
-Psychic/Power Gem/Recover/Surf

Luario@Wisdom Glasses/Lefotvers
Modest
-Calm Mind
-Pulse Bomb
-Psychic
-Dark PUlse

Beleive that's it for him.

PorygonZ@Lefotvers
Modest
-Scheme
-Thunderbolt
-Ice beam
-Tri Attack

Frost Nova
10th December 2006, 9:07 PM
Lucario's more like this though.

Lucario@lefties
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Pulse Bomb
- Shadow Ball
- Luster Cannon / Dragon Pulse

Luster Cannon is not really needed despite the fact it gets STAB, since Pulse Bomb basically hurts the same things that Luster Cannon was supposed to counter. Dragon Pulse could do as a filler move.

Gardevoir's a pretty decent special sweeper btw. So is Choice Lens Alakazam.

Gardevoir@lefties
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Psychic
- T-Bolt
- Will-o-Wisp

Alakazam@Choice Lens
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Focus Bomb
- Shadow Ball
- Energy Ball

sin
12th December 2006, 2:41 AM
Dotaitos @ Leftovers
Overgrow; Careful;
Curse
Earthquake
Seed Bomb
Synthesis


Swampert @ Leftovers
Torrent; Relaxed
Waterfall
Earthquake
Ice Beam
Rest


Fuwaraido @ Hooked Spikes
Detonate; Timid;
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Eerie Wind
Substitute




Cradily @ Leftovers
Suction Cups; Calm;
Energy Ball
Amnesia
Toxic
Recover


Steelix @ Leftovers
Rock Head; Impish;
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Rest
Stealth Rock


Alakazam @ Choice Lens
Synchronize; Timid;
Psychic
Focus Bomb
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball



Ok, this is what I got. I have a question though. Why waterfall?

All I need now is help with EV's.

Thanks.

Zameric
12th December 2006, 3:04 AM
here's some more ideas....

Dotaitos @ Leftovers
Nature: Careful
Trait: Overgrow
-Wood Hammer
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Synthesis

Swampert @ Leftovers
Nature: Adamant
Trait: Torrent
-Snow Slide
-Waterfall
-Earthquake
-Counter

Fuwaraido @ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
Trait: Acrobat
-Shadow Ball
-Silver Wind
-Thunder Wave
-Calm Mind

Cradily @ Leftovers
Nature: Modest
Trait: Suction Cups
-Ancientpower
-Energy Ball
-Mirror Coat
-Recover

Steelix @ Choice Band
Nature: Careful
Trait: Rock Head
-Double-Edge
-Iron Tail
-Earthquake
-Explosion

Forretress @ Leftovers
Nature: Careful
Trait: Sturdy
-Earthquake
-Gyro Ball
-Poison Spikes
-Pin Missile