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Dar1818
10th December 2006, 9:45 PM
I'm experimenting, trying to find the best possible team. This is my new team for Ruby (I haven't beaten any gyms yet). I traded them all from emerald with correct items and ev's (I know that's cheating).

Dusclops lv 38 w/leftovers
Bold nature
Confuse Ray
Pain Split
Will-o-Wisp
Night Shade
ev's 252 def/252 SDef/4 hp

(originally from Ruby so it obeys me) Marshtomp lv 28 w/chesto berry
Quiet nature
Ice Beam
Surf
Earthquake
Rest
ev's 252 SAtk/168 hp/88 def

Grimer lv 34 w/leftovers
Adamant nature
Substitute
Focus Punch
Fire Blast
Sludge Bomb
ev's 252 hp/252 atk/4 def

Trapinch lv 18 w/choice band
adamant nature
Earthquake
Rock Slide
going to be aerial ace
Fire Blast
ev's 252 atk (others are going to be 252 spd/4 hp)

Alakazam lv 28 w/lum berry
Timid nature
Ice Punch
Shadow Ball (Going to be fire punch when I get the bpts)
Calm Mind
Psychic
ev's 252 SAtk/252 spd/4 hp

I need a fifth slot. I was thinking of either Regice or Registeel. Open to suggestions.

aragornbird
10th December 2006, 9:57 PM
I traded them all from emerald with correct items and ev's (I know that's cheating).
No it isn't. As long as you don't use a cheating device, it's not cheating.

Wow, you need major work with your EVs. Retrade them to Emerald and fix them up.

Dusclops lv 38 w/leftovers
Bold nature
Shadow Ball
Pain Split
Will-o-Wisp
Seismic Toss
EVs: 252 HP / 92 Def / 164 SDef

Max HP ALWAYS!!!

Marshtomp lv 28 w/chesto berry
Quiet nature
Ice Beam
Surf
Earthquake
Rest
EVs: 180 HP / 96 Atk / 136 Def / 40 SAtk / 56 SDef

Grimer lv 34 w/leftovers
Adamant nature
Substitute
Focus Punch
Fire Blast
Sludge Bomb
EVs: 214 HP / 108 Atk / 82 SAtk / 104 SDef

Trapinch lv 18 w/choice band
adamant nature
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Quick Attack
Fire Blast
ev's 252 atk (others are going to be 252 spd/4 hp)

Alakazam lv 28 w/lum berry
Timid nature
Ice Punch
Shadow Ball (Going to be fire punch when I get the bpts)
Calm Mind
Psychic
ev's 252 SAtk/252 spd/4 hp

Regice > Registeel

Regice @Leftovers
Bold/Modest Nature
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 156 SAtk
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Rest
-Thunder Wave/Toxic/Counter/Sleep Talk/Psych Up

Dar1818
10th December 2006, 10:00 PM
Why max hp on dusclops? Doesn't pain split sort of rely on having lower hp?

aragornbird
10th December 2006, 10:36 PM
No, you don't want Dusclops craptacular HP to be lower than it already is. If you max out Dusclops's HP instead of its defenses, it will take less damage from attacks than if you maxed out both defenses.

Dar1818
10th December 2006, 10:46 PM
Ok, next question. Confuse Ray really helps Dusclops set up will-o-wist, and it's satk is way below average. Shadow ball wouldn't even 2 KO an alakazam, I calculated it on psypoke. Why sball > confuse ray?

aragornbird
10th December 2006, 10:49 PM
Shadow Ball is a PHYSICAL attack, not special. And yes, it does OHKO Alakazam, even without any Atk EVs. It also 2KOs Gengar and most Starmies. Confuse Ray can't do that.

Dar1818
10th December 2006, 10:54 PM
I always get shadow ball and psychic confused. physical, got it. Alright, I'll try it out, thanks.