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Milotic_Fan
11th December 2006, 11:11 PM
Now I got all the silver symbols, I want to aim for the gold ones. I'm going to try to get them with the following Pokes:

Latias @ Leftovers
Levitate
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EV's?
- Dragon Claw
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Surf / Psychic

Metagross @ Choice Band
Clear Body
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
132 HP/ 252 Atk/ 134 Spd
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Sludge Bomb / Rock Slide

Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Natural Cure
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
252 SAtk/ 6 SDef/ 252 Spd
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Recover

Now I would like some rating. Are there any EV's, moves or natures that have to be replaced? Which move do I have to use in Metagross' and Latias' last slot? I can change Latias' nature, because I still have to catch it. And most important, I would like a EV's spread for a Latias ingame! Please remember these Pokes have to be made for use in the Battle Frontier!

Thanks in advance!

Reno
11th December 2006, 11:16 PM
Now I got all the silver symbols, I want to aim for the gold ones. I'm going to try to get them with the following Pokes:

Latias @ Leftovers
Levitate
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EV's?
- Dragon Claw psychic
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Thunderbolt

Metagross @ Choice Band
Clear Body
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
132 HP/ 252 Atk/ 134 Spd
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Sludge Bomb / Rock Slide rock slide to tackle flyers.

Starmie @ Petaya Berry
Natural Cure
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
252 SAtk/ 6 SDef/ 252 Spd
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Recover psychic if you want full sweeper set

Now I would like some rating. Are there any EV's, moves or natures that have to be replaced? Which move do I have to use in Metagross' and Latias' last slot? I can change Latias' nature, because I still have to catch it. And most important, I would like a EV's spread for a Latias ingame! Please remember these Pokes have to be made for use in the Battle Frontier!

Thanks in advance!

looks pretty good but the evs look messed up. i dunno about EV;s myself but they dont look right.

Icosahedron
11th December 2006, 11:26 PM
Starmie needs Shell Bell and Timid Nature, though Modest works as well. Sludge Bomb on Metagross is really only for Ludicolo, so I'd use Rock Slide unless you are really paranoid that Ludicolo will give your team major trouble. Rock Slide at least covers Zapdos and Fire/Water Flyers. Thunderbolt for Latias's last move.

And I'm sorry, I'm not the one to ask when it comes to EV's.

Milotic_Fan
11th December 2006, 11:31 PM
Thanks for the ratings.

Aldred FellBlade, why Psychic > Dragon Claw on Latias? And why especially Thunderbolt on Latias and not one of the other moves?

I will use modest for Starmie (more like sweeping) and Rock Slide for Metagross then.

Sirius
11th December 2006, 11:32 PM
Metagross eh? Ev's can be MAYBE (tell me if i am wrong) 252 Atk, 252 Spd, 6 hp
Since it is a pretty good physical sweeper and steel makes it pretty good defence too, so... But ask some EV master on that one.

yazzel
12th December 2006, 4:49 PM
metagross:252 attack,100speed,152defense

Milotic_Fan
12th December 2006, 9:42 PM
Anyone suggestions for the EV's for Latias? And is Bold a good nature?

aragornbird
12th December 2006, 10:23 PM
metagross:252 attack,100speed,152defense
Don't need Max Attack for CBGross. And no, Sirius, those EVs are bad.

EVs: 122 HP / 196 Atk / 96 Def / 96 Spd



Aldred FellBlade, why Psychic > Dragon Claw on Latias? And why especially Thunderbolt on Latias and not one of the other moves?
He's wrong on that part. Dragon Claw > Psychic, and Thunderbolt is there to take care of Water types who are Latios's biggest fear.

Shell Bell on Starmie.

Bold nature is bad (but not terrible). Needs Modest or Timid.
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Spd / 96 SAtk

[Kingdra]
12th December 2006, 10:35 PM
Now I got all the silver symbols, I want to aim for the gold ones. I'm going to try to get them with the following Pokes:

Latias @ Leftovers
Levitate
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
EV's?
- Dragon Claw
- Calm Mind
- Recover
- Thunderbolt / Ice Beam / Surf / Psychic

Pretty standard...The special sweep move should depend on who you're facing really.

Metagross @ Choice Band
Clear Body
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
132 HP/ 252 Atk/ 134 Spd
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Explosion
- Rock Slide

Go with Rock Slide

Starmie @ Leftovers/Shell Bell if you have one
Natural Cure
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
252 SAtk/ 6 SDef/ 252 Spd
- Surf
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam
- Psychic

Standard
I'm not going to attempt to touch the EVs.That's pretty much a standard BF Team

Milotic_Fan
12th December 2006, 10:46 PM
Aragornbird; I will go with your EV spread for Metagross, thanks!

But with Latias, I want a bit more a defensive one. Otherwise I would have chosen Latios. Do you maybe have other suggestions for me? I will take Thunderbolt for her.

And last question: Recover or Psychic on Starmie?

aragornbird
12th December 2006, 11:04 PM
Oh, I read Latios instead of Latias.

Latias @ Leftovers
EVs: 204 HP / 128 Def / 176 Spd
Bold Nature
-Calm Mind
-Dragon Claw
-Thunder Wave/Safeguard
-Recover/Wish

Here's a defensive Latias. It can survive two Shadow Balls from Adamant Gengar and supports the team with Safeguard and Wish.

Psychic for special sweeping Starmie.

[Kingdra]
13th December 2006, 12:14 AM
Word.Psychic is best on starmie.You have the Sp. sweeping ability...and the STAB

Milotic_Fan
14th December 2006, 5:10 PM
Thanks again for the answers.

I think this is what it what my team will be like:

Latias @ Leftovers
Levitate
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
204 HP/ 128 Def/ 176 Spd
- Calm Mind
- Dragon Claw
- Safeguard
- Recover

Metagross @ Choice Band
Clear Body
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
122 HP/ 196 Atk/ 96 Def/ 96 Spd
- Meteor Mash
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Explosion

Starmie @ Shell Bell
Natural Cure
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
252 SAtk/ 6 SDef/ 252 Spd
- Surf
- Psychic
- Thunderbolt
- Ice Beam

Any more suggestions/rating, anyone?

[Kingdra]
14th December 2006, 6:29 PM
Thunderbolt>Safeguard on Latias...

ludicolo_kid
14th December 2006, 6:36 PM
not on a defensive latias. looks good