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Mii
14th December 2006, 5:07 AM
Notes

-can't breed (yet)
-keeping Fly on Dodrio and Strength for Snorlax for HM purposes
-don't keep track of EV's
-only a plan so it's not final

Electabuzz
Lonely Nature

Thunderbolt
Psychic
Brick Break
Calm Mind

Venusaur
Docile (stats too well-rounded kinda)

Synthesis
Razor Leaf
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb

-or-

Synthesis
Solar Beam
Sunny Day
Sludge Bomb

Dodrio
Adamant

Toxic
Fly
Return
Steel Wing

Lapras
Impish or Modest

Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt/Psychic
Confuse Ray

Snorlax
Adamant or Impish
Strength
Shadow Ball
Rest
??? (can't think; maybe Earthquake or Counter)

I need a sixth pokemon. Maybe an extra tank or something but I can't think of one...

[Kingdra]
14th December 2006, 5:19 AM
Electabuzz@Leftovers
Lonely Nature
~ Thunderbolt
~ Cross Chop
~ Fire Punch
~ Ice Punch

Venusaur@Leftovers
Careful
~ Sleep Powder
~ Leech Seed
~ Synthesis
~ Sludge Bomb

Dodrio@Choice Band
Adamant
~ Drill Peck
~ Quick Attack
~ Return
~ Steel Wing

Lapras@Leftovers
Modest
~ Sing
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Confuse Ray

Snorlax@Leftovers
Careful
~ Curse
~ Body Slam/Return
~ Rest
~ Earthquake/Shadow Ball

Don't use HMs in the process of team rating.I wasn't too sure on a Dodrio set without the HP.That should do fine though.If you insist on fly then you can put it over Steel Wing...

BigCharizard
14th December 2006, 5:44 AM
Definitely get ride of Strength in lieu of a better move; there really aren't that many boulders that need to be moved.

Icosahedron
14th December 2006, 6:52 AM
I see no problem with [Kingdra]'s sets, though I'd use Earthquake over Shadow Ball on Snorlax as well as Surf over Confuse Ray or Sing on Lapras. And perhaps Rhydon or Heracross as your last Pokemon?

Rhydon @ Choice Band/Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Satk)
Trait: Rock Head
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide/Rock Blast
- Megahorn
- Double-edge/Swords Dance

Heracross @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Satk)
Trait: Guts
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Megahorn
- Brick Break/Rock Slide

Heracross @ Salac Berry
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Satk)
Trait: Swarm
- Endure/Substitute
- Reversal
- Megahorn
- Swords Dance/Rock Slide

Heracross @ Leftovers/Choice Band
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Satk)
Trait: Guts
- Swords Dance/Facade/Focus Punch
- Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide

yazzel
14th December 2006, 11:36 AM
heracross@adamant (max attack and speed)
moveset
megahorn
rock slide
brick break
bulk up

[Kingdra]
14th December 2006, 3:15 PM
I see no problem with [Kingdra]'s sets, though I'd use Earthquake over Shadow Ball on Snorlax as well as Surf over Confuse Ray or Sing on Lapras. And perhaps Rhydon or Heracross as your last Pokemon?

Rhydon @ Choice Band/Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Satk)
Trait: Rock Head
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide/Rock Blast
- Megahorn
- Double-edge/Swords Dance

Heracross @ Leftovers
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Satk)
Trait: Guts
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Megahorn
- Brick Break/Rock Slide

Heracross @ Salac Berry
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -Satk)
Trait: Swarm
- Endure/Substitute
- Reversal
- Megahorn
- Swords Dance/Rock Slide

Heracross @ Leftovers/Choice Band
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -Satk)
Trait: Guts
- Swords Dance/Facade/Focus Punch
- Brick Break
- Megahorn
- Rock SlideI like Shadow Ball...Also Lapras is an awesome status inflicter...

Reno
14th December 2006, 3:35 PM
heracross@adamant (max attack and speed)
moveset
megahorn
rock slide
brick break
bulk up

why bulk up? it can have swords dance.

[Kingdra]
14th December 2006, 3:42 PM
Why even a buffing move? Heracross is best as a CBer...

Reno
14th December 2006, 3:59 PM
not always true, it can be effective as just a sweeper, with swords dnace.

jolty jolteon
14th December 2006, 4:57 PM
lose the hms catch a pokemon like pidgey for fly and maybe a machop or geodude for strength
Notes

-can't breed (yet)
-keeping Fly on Dodrio and Strength for Snorlax for HM purposes
-don't keep track of EV's
-only a plan so it's not final

Electabuzz
Lonely Nature

Thunderbolt
Psychic
Ice Punch
Calm Mind/Fire Punch

Venusaur
Docile (stats too well-rounded kinda)

Synthesis
Razor Leaf/Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb/Sleep Powder

-or-

Synthesis
Solar Beam
Sunny Day
HP Fire/Sludge Bomb

Dodrio
Adamant

HP Ground/Quick Attack
Drill Peck
Return
Steel Wing

Lapras
Impish or Modest

Surf
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt/Psychic
Confuse Ray

Snorlax
Adamant or Impish
Body Slam
Shadow Ball
Rest
Belly Drum/Earthquake/Sleep Talk

Vaporeon
Modest or Bold
Surf
Haze
Rest
Ice Beam/Sleep Talk

I need a sixth pokemon. Maybe an extra tank or something but I can't think of one...

ludicolo_kid
14th December 2006, 5:50 PM
eq>shadow ball ingame as theres no levitating ghosts (gengar) apart from 2 that agatha has. It doesn't have much use.

Mii
14th December 2006, 8:19 PM
I can't breed yet!!! Or trade, so I can't Choice Band with Dodrio!

Yeah, I'll use most of Kingdra's sets for post-Elite Four, when I can breed.

So this is my team so far:

Electabuzz@?
Lonely Nature
~ Thunderbolt
~ Brick Break/Cross Chop when I can breed
~ Thunder Wave/Calm Mind
~ Psychic/Ice Punch when I can breed

Venusaur@Leftovers
Careful
~ Razor Leaf (one attack isn't worth it and it can still recover nicely)
~ Leech Seed
~ Synthesis
~ Sludge Bomb

Dodrio@?
Adamant
~ Drill Peck
~ Toxic...
~ Return
~ Steel Wing (why the hate for this move? It covers Rock and Ice, and it's an extra sweeping move.)

Lapras@?
Modest
~ Sing? It's low accuracy...
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Confuse Ray

Snorlax@Leftovers
Careful
~ Curse
~ Return
~ Rest
~ Earthquake/Shadow Ball

Rhydon@?
Adamant
~ Megahorn
~ Rock Blast/Slide
~ Earthquake
~ Swords Dance

-or-

Mr. Mime (Need a legit Special Sweeper not named Alakazam)
Modest
~ Substitute
~ Psychic
~ Thunderbolt
~ Thunder Wave/Reflect/Barrier

Might take out Electabuzz for Mr. Mime. What do you think?

I don't think you get that many leftovers...

Mii
14th December 2006, 8:19 PM
I can't breed yet!!! Or trade, so I can't Choice Band with Dodrio!

Yeah, I'll use most of Kingdra's sets for post-Elite Four, when I can breed.

So this is my team so far:

Electabuzz@?
Lonely Nature
~ Thunderbolt
~ Brick Break/Cross Chop when I can breed
~ Thunder Wave/Calm Mind
~ Psychic/Ice Punch when I can breed

Venusaur@Leftovers
Careful
~ Razor Leaf (one attack isn't worth it and it can still recover nicely)
~ Leech Seed
~ Synthesis
~ Sludge Bomb

Dodrio@?
Adamant
~ Drill Peck
~ Toxic...
~ Return
~ Steel Wing (why the hate for this move? It covers Rock and Ice, and it's an extra sweeping move.)

Lapras@?
Modest
~ Sing? It's low accuracy...
~ Ice Beam
~ Thunderbolt
~ Confuse Ray

Snorlax@Leftovers
Careful
~ Curse
~ Return
~ Rest
~ Earthquake/Shadow Ball

Rhydon@?
Adamant
~ Megahorn
~ Rock Blast/Slide
~ Earthquake
~ Swords Dance

-or-

Mr. Mime (Need a legit Special Sweeper not named Alakazam)
Modest
~ Substitute
~ Psychic
~ Thunderbolt
~ Thunder Wave/Reflect/Barrier

Might take out Electabuzz for Mr. Mime. What do you think?

I don't think you get that many leftovers...

Shine
15th December 2006, 12:42 PM
On Lapras, you can use Surf instead of Sing to get past the game, once you get past the E4, you can change the move to back to Sing.

Reno
15th December 2006, 4:14 PM
another dodrio set then


dodrio@lum berry
adamant
-drill peck
-endure
-flail
-quick attack

dodrio@leftovers
adamant
-rest
-drill peck
-return
-quick attack

Icosahedron
15th December 2006, 4:24 PM
^Agility over Quick Attack on the EndFlail set.

@Mii: Sassy please on Venusaur. Choice Band is best for Rhydon, but if you can't get it then it doesn't really matter what you use. Also, use this for Mr. Mime:

Mr. Mime @ Leftovers/Brightpowder
Bold Nature (+Def, -Atk)
Trait: Soundproof
- Reflect/Encore
- Calm Mind
- Thunderbolt
- Psychic

Yeah, use him over Electabuzz, who may I mention can't learn Calm Mind....

KingBattlus
15th December 2006, 4:25 PM
electabuzz can't learn calm mind. everything else has been covered rather well though.

parasectdude
15th December 2006, 5:07 PM
To everyone who posted, Mii can't breed yet.


Notes

-can't breed (yet)
-keeping Fly on Dodrio and Strength for Snorlax for HM purposes
-don't keep track of EV's
-only a plan so it's not final

Electabuzz
Lonely Nature

Thunderbolt
Ice Punch
Focus Punch
Thunder Wave

Venusaur
Docile (stats too well-rounded kinda)

Synthesis
Sleep Powder
Leech Seed
Sludge Bomb

Dodrio @ Choice Band
Adamant

Really don't know here
Fly
Return
Steel Wing

Lapras
Impish or Modest

Sing
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Confuse Ray

Snorlax
Adamant or Impish
Strength
Shadow Ball
Rest
Sleep Talk

I need a sixth pokemon. Maybe an extra tank or something but I can't think of one...

yazzel
15th December 2006, 6:33 PM
snorlax@adamant
moveset
eartquake
return
bulk up
(brick break)

Reno
15th December 2006, 6:37 PM
snorlax@adamant
moveset
eartquake
return
bulk up
(brick break)

snorlax cant learn bulk up. otherwise dont you think people would of had it instead of curse?

snorlax@leftovers
adamant/careful
-earthquake
-return
-rest
-curse


probably the best set snorlax can have

yazzel
15th December 2006, 6:45 PM
i forgot that it was curse and not bulk up that it learns.

Mii
15th December 2006, 8:25 PM
Ok. I'm not really gonna use Electabuzz cause I'm not gonna get one in a while and I need something good early so Bulbasaur doesn't have to do all the work. Plus Mr. Mime is traded, and that's a plus there.

Mr Mime
Bold Nature

-Barrier/Reflect
-Calm Mind
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt

Venusaur@Leftovers
Anything that increases Sp. Defence Nature

-Razor Leaf (want two attacks)
-Leech Seed
-Synthesis
-Sludge Bomb

Dodrio
Adamant/Jolly Nature

-Rest
-Steel Wing
-Drill Peck/Fly (for faster travel)
-Return

Lapras@Leftovers
Modest/Bold Nature (to stay longer)

-Sing/Surf (in-game purposes)
-Ice Beam
-Thunderbolt
-Confuse Ray

Snorlax
Careful/Impish (to stay longer) Nature

-Body Slam
-Yawn/Block/Counter
-Rest
-Shadow Ball

I just realized I can't get a Curselax... :(

Rhydon
Adamant Nature

-Megahorn
-Rock Slide/Blast
-Swords Dance
-Earthquake

Not alot of questions now...ok. Well, two.

Does it matter if Mr. Mime gets Barrier, or is Reflect just better?

And since I can't get a Curselax, which move would be the best fit for him: Yawn, Block, or Counter?

Reno
15th December 2006, 8:35 PM
neither. if you want a good snorlax that you dont have to breed to get here is some.


snorlax@leftovers/chesto
adamant/careful
-return
-earthquake
-rest
-belly drum

snorlax@leftovers/chesto
adamant/careful
-return
-earthquake
-shadow ball
-rest

snorlax@leftovers
adamant/careful
-return
-rest
-earthquake
-sleep talk