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aquasuicune
16th December 2006, 7:19 PM
I have a couple of questions. First, I'm almost certain that this is a no, but when a synchronize pokemon uses rest, does the opponent fall asleep also? I have no idea why that would work but whatever...
Also, I am making a baton pass team with the eeveelutions, and I have some moveset questions:
Umbreon
Toxic
Baton Pass
Sub?
Rest? (Really need help on those last two)

Jolteon
Thunderbolt
Agility
Baton Pass
???

I was planning to use wish on them, but I don't have access to it... I was thinking rest because the team will be BP'ing 6 Calm Minds, 3 acid armors, and a vaporeon's sub around, so they won't die that easily, but I don't exactly know what else to use.

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 7:24 PM
Umbreon
Toxic
Baton Pass
Rest
Mean look

Jolteon
Thunderbolt
Baton Pass
Agility
Substitute/Bite

The Bite set is what I'm using for Jolts :).

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 7:29 PM
umbreon needs moonlight

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 7:34 PM
It doesn't need Moonlight...Wish also works there...

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 7:36 PM
Yea, Moonlight would probably be better than Rest on Umbreon.

For the other Eeveelutions:

Espeon
Psychic
Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Morning Sun

Vaporeon
Surf
Acid Armor
Baton Pass
Substitute/Rest

Flareon unfortunately doesn't gel at all with the other four.

@Kingdra: He said he can't get wish.

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 7:38 PM
umbreon
nature:bold
curse
taunt
moonlight
baton pass

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 7:40 PM
Ok, and Flareon well Flareon's the only Physical Eevee

Flareon@Choice Band
Brave Nature
- Return
- Shadow Ball
- Overheat
- Quick Attack/Iron Tail

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 7:40 PM
oh by the way I am new

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 7:42 PM
Yeah, I noticed and that was SPAM

Did he have a Jolteon set?

It's best as a Subpasser but, that's hard to get In-Game with all the Pokes who want it...

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 7:42 PM
Curse is pretty useless on Umbreon, but it gives me an idea for a possible Flareon set:

Flareon
Return/Overheat
Shadow Ball/Overheat
Baton Pass
Curse

aquasuicune
16th December 2006, 7:44 PM
Espeon
Psychic
Calm Mind
Baton Pass
Morning Sun

Vaporeon
Surf
Acid Armor
Baton Pass
Substitute/Rest

Wow, you just named the rest of my team! I was thinking of passing to latios for a finisher, just to be cheap but yeah... I got a really good IV eevee, so I was planning to clone it for vaporeon and umbreon for the sub.

I would have to put curse on umbreon if I used flareon at all, which I am not doing because flareon sucks. (But at least it's cute)


Umbreon
Toxic
Baton Pass
Rest
Mean look
I'm liking this set best.

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 7:44 PM
Flareon
good set apart from iron tail
quick attack or hp fighting

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 7:45 PM
Flareon does not BP seriously NOT!!!

Curse on Umbreon is fine you can Cursepass if the Pokemon you pass to is holding White Herb it works...Flareon would be the best recipient for that...

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 7:46 PM
Oh and by the way how is curse useless if you baton pass?

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 7:47 PM
I just answered that <.<

Flareon doesn't suck it's actually a fairly decent sweeper...

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 7:48 PM
Like I said, Flareon doesn't work well with a BP Eeveelution team because it is the only one that is Physical-based. I suggested the set for a marginally possible use. I wouldn't use it because Curse would negate Jolteon's Agilitys.

This team looks like it would be a lot of fun to use :).

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 7:49 PM
That's why you use White Herb <.<

HAVE YOU PEOPLE NOT BEEN READING MY POSTS?!?!?!?!?

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 7:51 PM
;5068229']That's why you use White Herb <.<

HAVE YOU PEOPLE NOT BEEN READING MY POSTS?!?!?!?!?

I am a goddamn slow typer.

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 7:52 PM
xD but, if you want to be like really cheap end the BP line with Salamence.

hehehe

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 7:53 PM
jolteon@leftys
thunderbolt
agility
baton pass
substitute
good baton passer I have it

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 7:53 PM
jolteon@leftys
thunderbolt
agility
baton pass
substitute
good baton passer I have it

aquasuicune
16th December 2006, 7:56 PM
;5068258']xD but, if you want to be like really cheap end the BP line with Salamence.

hehehe

Ending with latios is cheaper. Salamence is normally a physical sweeper, and I don't have an attack increasing move. Latios, on the other hand, becomes almost impossible to kill, and gets an enormous Sp. attack that pretty much OHKO's everything except shedinja. Speaking of which, maybe I should stick bite on jolteon because I otherwise have nothing that can hit it because my eevee has HP grass...

Reno
16th December 2006, 7:57 PM
double post and you repeated a moveset. flareon rocks as a choice bander. it has good offensive stats.

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 8:00 PM
If you use Curse on Umbreon and then pass around then pass to Sala...You can OHKO each Pokemon on the enemy team...

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 8:02 PM
If you're going to Curse-Pass, you may as well use a CBing Flareon to stick with the theme.

Flareon
Return
Shadow Ball
Iron Tail
Overheat

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 8:03 PM
aslo baton round to metagross same effect

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 8:06 PM
which would you say is best eeveelution

Reno
16th December 2006, 8:08 PM
^^^ stop double posting i personally favour vaporeon,jolteon and umbreon.

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 8:08 PM
Don't double post. EDIT: Beaten :(

They're all good at doing different things.

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 8:09 PM
my favourite has got to be jolteon

aquasuicune
16th December 2006, 8:10 PM
I like espeon, but I think that vaporeon is best. It all depends on what you're using them against.
On a side note, after all of the stat ups my pokes stats would be:
Espeon
1400 SAttack
968 SDefense
572 Defense
1200 Speed

Vaporeon
988 Sattack
1108 Sdefense
700 Defense
600 Speed

Umbreon
588 Sattack
1416 Sdefense
1100 Defense
600 Speed

Jolteon
1240 Sattack
968 SDefense
572 Defense
1360 Speed

I actually think this set wouldn't be horrible in a link battle.

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 8:13 PM
But when d/p comes out it becomes glacia

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 8:15 PM
What other Pokes were you planning to use with this team? I know you mentioned Latios, but what else were you considering?

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 8:22 PM
should consider ursaring, if you are doing that team baton pass thing
it would benefit greatly

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 8:35 PM
sorry for double posting but this thread is dead

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 8:37 PM
Just because someone hasn't posted in the last ten minutes doesn't mean the thread is dead.

ludicolo_kid
16th December 2006, 8:37 PM
lol wtf? Unless your cheating, no amount of statups would make hose stats..:(

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 8:38 PM
He calculated the stats after all of the stat boosting moves have been used.

ludicolo_kid
16th December 2006, 8:39 PM
o right sorry i hadnt read the rest of the thread.

Reno
16th December 2006, 8:40 PM
sorry for double posting but this thread is dead

yeh there is an edit button, and it is hardly dead. the person may be busy at the moment

howling houndour
16th December 2006, 9:02 PM
alright,and by the way that stat bosting thing shows that vaporeon is not he best in any sense

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 9:03 PM
It looks like Espeon has the best stats after they are upped...I can't wait for a Dragon,Fighting,and Ghost Eeveeloution...

Reno
16th December 2006, 9:04 PM
dragon eeveelution? lol. that would be plain weird.

BigCharizard
16th December 2006, 9:06 PM
I seriously doubt they'll ever do any of those. They aren't going to make any Physical type Eeveelutions, and what the hell would a Dragon Eeveelution look like. Hmmm...

[Kingdra]
16th December 2006, 9:07 PM
That gives me inspiration for a Salamence/Eevee splice...Back on topic Flareon is my personal favorite but, I wouldn't put him in a competitive team...

aquasuicune
16th December 2006, 10:42 PM
alright,and by the way that stat bosting thing shows that vaporeon is not he best in any sense

You can't determine how good a pokemon is just from their stats, although that is a large part of it. I also did not include HP, but vaporeon has way more HP than the rest of them. Movepool is another issue, and espeon, umbreon, and almost all electrics have major movepool issues. You must also include type, vaporeon is only weak to special moves, and he has a very high special defense. I think vaporeon is the best because he can be very hard to take down and can also do a decent amount of damage. Sweeping is not everything.

What other Pokes were you planning to use with this team? I know you mentioned Latios, but what else were you considering? I was actually planning to just use this as a 4 on 4 team. If I had to have a team of 6, then it would be latios and agiligross.

howling houndour
17th December 2006, 2:00 PM
Vaporeon Is Second Worst Eevee,after Flareon.
Wish Passer Vapor Is Ok