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osiem_zero_jeden
18th April 2007, 1:09 AM
alright, i plan on getting a dragonite for my BF team, so this is what i want to get:

Dragonite @anything beneficial to my team, as long as its not lefties.
shooting for lonely or adamant (+Atk, -Def/-SAtk)
-earthquake
-ice beam/t-bolt (need suggestions for which, will not accept anything else)
-dragon dance
-aerial ace/focus punch (also need help)

before i can reach my goal, i need help in planning out and organizing a simple method to getting DD and adamant nature. this is what i got so far:

1) altaria, w/ DD
2) charizard, w/ adamant
3) dratini
4) i bred dratini w/ altaria, then that egg guy with char, and ended up with...
5) a charmander, with rash nature, and none of the moves i need.

there you have it, so you guys do what you do best...

akamainevent66
18th April 2007, 4:53 AM
is your charizard a girl? cause uhh if you ended up with a chamander...yeah, its a girl. heres a link with breeding for dragonite http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=191114

Dratini
1. Dragon Dance: Gyarados -> Dratini
2. Dragonbreath: Altaria -> Dratini
3. Haze: Ekans/Seviper -> Dratini
4. Light Screen: Pikachu -> Psyduck -> Dratini
5. Mist: Wingull/Lapras -> Dratini
6. Supersonic: Wingull/Mantine -> Dratini

Vaporeon4evr
18th April 2007, 5:10 AM
Well, it seems you want a DD-nite. Here's what he looks like.

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Lonely(+Atk, -Def)
- Dragon Dance
- Aerial Ace
- Earthquake
- Thunderbolt/Ice beam

I say lonely because adamant deducts special attack, which Dragonite needs to pull off Ice Beam and Thunderbolt. Overall, I would suggest Ice Beam, but it depends on your team. You could also make Dragonite a sub-puncher (he makes a great one:

Dragonite @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Focus
Brave Nature (+Atk, -Spd)
- Substitute
- Focus Punch
- Ice Beam

Also, if you have XD, the Dragonite you get from Mirror B. has Dragon Dance already. That's how I got mine.
- Thunderbolt

Vaporeon4evr
18th April 2007, 5:12 AM
^Sorry bout the typo with Thunderbolt. It's supposed to go beneath Ice Beam

The Mighty Wurmple
18th April 2007, 8:27 AM
SubPuncher Dragonite does better with a Quiet nature, seeming Brave is only boosting the already strong Focus Punch's power.

Reno
18th April 2007, 6:56 PM
thunder>t-bolt on DDnite. also, flamethrower and dragon claw is an option>boltbeam, if you wante STAB on subpuncher

Vaporeon4evr
19th April 2007, 5:59 AM
^I trust your judgement, although I'm not quite getting the point of thunder. Is it really worth the accuracy deduction? I can see it now: it's the final battle against Salon Maiden Anabel, and Dragonite's thunder misses on Alakazam, allowing him to Ice Punch Dragonite to death.

The Mighty Wurmple
19th April 2007, 7:39 AM
Aerial Ace will pretty much do the same amount of damage as Thunder, but with more accuracy.

crudent
19th April 2007, 1:42 PM
Please don't tell me you intend to outspeed an Alakazam with a Dragonite. Zam KOs it with Ice Punch nevertheless. You'd want something that can Shadow Ball/Crunch/Megahorn.

osiem_zero_jeden
20th April 2007, 12:26 AM
crudent, this draggy isnt necessarily for salon maiden anabel, but for my team of pokes. anyways, i still didnt get an answer to that question...

crudent
20th April 2007, 12:48 AM
Sorry, thought you were asking that. Oh well, my comment was directed to the person who hijacked your thread then.

But SubPunch is best on Draggy.

osiem_zero_jeden
20th April 2007, 10:53 PM
hey guys i just read the ingame moveset guide and realized my draggy was originally lonely nature (y'know, +Atk, -Def)...so i guess i can keep trying to get an adamant draggy, but then again i guess i need your recommendations on the nature:

lonely or adamant?

i dont know what i want less, Def or SAtk...

so, thats why you guys are here. cmon and help me out here...

The Mighty Wurmple
21st April 2007, 2:04 AM
Lonely with Thunderbolt, Adamant with Thunder.
On the Dragon Dancing Dragonite, it's best for Lonely/Adamant.

Vaporeon4evr
21st April 2007, 4:52 AM
^Agreed. Thunder's power boost makes up for the deduction of sp atk with adamant.

ludicolo_kid
22nd April 2007, 1:10 PM
DDNite>All others.

Reno
22nd April 2007, 1:15 PM
DDnite is cool. so is subpunch draggy. so is CBnite.

dragonite@choice band
adamant
-thunder
-earthquake/double edge
-aerial ace
-focus punch/earthquake

hard to get ingame though

Frost Nova
22nd April 2007, 10:49 PM
Just thought I'd point this out, Ice Beam is an option for Lonely Draggy if you want to counter things like Donphan or Claydol.

osiem_zero_jeden
23rd April 2007, 2:03 AM
this is my current dragonite:

draggy@nothing decided yet
adamant
-EQ
-AA
-DD
-ice beam, which i may change on occasion to t-bolt

thanks for all your help and suggestions.

alright, i think were done here...onto a new thread...

The Mighty Wurmple
23rd April 2007, 9:06 AM
Thunder(Bolt) is better to use on Dragonite because most Water types carry Ice Beam.

Just wanting to squeeze that in ^^;

osiem_zero_jeden
23rd April 2007, 11:46 PM
what would you say if i went up against a claydol with rock slide or ancientpower or something? that was a very bad experience...

Vaporeon4evr
23rd April 2007, 11:56 PM
what would you say if i went up against a claydol with rock slide or ancientpower or something? that was a very bad experience...

With the dragonite you have, you may as well just switch out to a Pokemon that can handle Claydol. Your Dragonite won't be able to handle everything, which is why you need a balanced team.