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Ray_Za
29th April 2007, 10:03 PM
About 5, maybe, hours ago I was chucked out of and banned from the Chatroom by Leona, with a big "[YOU THINK YOURE SO FUNNY NOW GET OUT]" in my face. Needless to say since I'm posting I think this is unjustified, but let me elaborate.

Apparently someone had asked something to the effect of "Does anyone have a Croagunk." To which Leona had replied politely telling them to ask in the WiFi room. I had missed the person asking and was wondering what Leona was talking about, so I asked, "Who asked for a trade?" or something equivalent, but not offensive.
Leona then replied to me informing me of the person asking about the Croagunk. Then she told me to stop acting dumb. Then she called me an "Idiot". I didn't think that she was actually saying this to me in an offensive manner at the time, after all, if she was angry over something like this, I'd have found it extremely strange. After all, I'd just asked a question which I honestly didn't know the answer to, and which I was mildly curious about.

I then, with no real ill-intentions gave the sarc-y reply of, "Pfft... Who's acting dumd?" then correcting myself, "... *dumb". As a side note, I found the irony of my own misspelling fairly funny.
Leona then replied with words to the effect of, "I was talking to you," to which I responded, "I was referring to you. " to point out the friendly sarcasm in my comment which I assumed she had missed. Then-
Banned. "[YOU THINK YOURE SO FUNNY NOW GET OUT]"
My thoughts: ... What the heck just happened?

I find this a somewhat unfortunate situation in which Leona has taken what I've said the wrong way, which, considering how well sarcasm is conveyed in typing (not very,) is entirely possible. Even so, I, myself, still find this banning somewhat unfair, despite whatever mood she was in, although I am sorry if she took what I said the wrong way.

Also, just before, Wiggles had been autokicked by an anti-channel names script or something for saying something about his, "Gastly #8" holding an everstone or some random item, the script obviously picking up the '#' and kicking him by accident. Leona then manually kicked him for 'evading' his first accidental kick, so she might just have been on a bit of a roll when she kicked me. Either way, (misuanderstanding or being in a mood) Leona isn't to fault, though being unbanned would be very nice.

And sorry for the big post, I'm just a wordy person sometimes.

LugiaRules
29th April 2007, 10:10 PM
Yeah.

I got kicked out by Leona with her saying: "Nobody likes an ***hole like you, now get the f*ck out.".

But do you see me whining about it?

Bryloom
29th April 2007, 10:11 PM
I suppose you don't have logs of this "incident", do you?

Nny
29th April 2007, 10:12 PM
How dare you guys spread slander about Leona. I think you both deserved it, otherwise Leona wouldn't ban for no good reason. :\

Leona
29th April 2007, 10:12 PM
If you're considered as arguing with the ops, which is what you were doing, then what do you expect, sheesh. You get banned, then it's your fault. ;\, I kicked that guy out because:
WI-FI DISCUSSION IS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE WI-FI CHAT

And the fact that i already said it a number of times. ;\

And no, why should i unban you, because starting a thread like this just makes you even more stupid to be honest.

Ray_Za
29th April 2007, 10:16 PM
I'm not whining, I'm registering my objection to the ban by explaining what happened, from my point of view.
... And besides that, apologising (if she reads this) to her if she indeed interpret what I aid as offensive, since I very rarely mean to offend people, and definately not in this case. It takes a bit more than being called dumb and an idiot to get me riled up.

EDIT1: One sec to edit a reply to the other posts in...

Cruxis
29th April 2007, 10:16 PM
Don't know what the hell you're talking about, Leona is one of the, if not the nicest Ops out there and if she kicked you out you were probably asking for it =/
Don't go spreading filth about someone as great as her.

Mars Girl
29th April 2007, 10:18 PM
Okay dude, like.....uh yeah, I really doubt people will care, maybe you should've PM'd Leona instead =/

Riyu*
29th April 2007, 10:20 PM
I agree with Cruxis. Leona's a good Op on SPP, she is really fair and nice, she's one of the most active Op's there. Also, she hasn't been in a kicking mood as far as I know. She is fair enough to not let that happen.

Fluorescent Adolescent
29th April 2007, 10:26 PM
Don't know what the hell you're talking about, Leona is one of the, if not the nicest Ops out there and if she kicked you out you were probably asking for it =/
Don't go spreading filth about someone as great as her.

Since when was expressing an opinionated view inquiring as to why one was banned "spreading filth"? He never criticised her. In fact, this persons' post has got the most flak if anything, yet it has been unbelievably polite from being kicked off a channel for asking a simple question or two. There has been no offensive statement towards anyone else from this person, yet everyone's jumping on the bandwagon to criticise him. What's that all about?


But do you see me whining about it?

Last time I checked, the last thing Ray_Za was doing was whining. All he's stating is an open minded argument, with no strict views against anyone. In fact, Ray_Za even said it wasn't her fault.


Okay dude, like.....uh yeah, I really doubt people will care, maybe you should've PM'd Leona instead =/

True Story.

Ray_Za
29th April 2007, 10:38 PM
More replies? ... Nevermind editing the other post, then.

SandslashYO!: No, no logs, considering I was using the Java chat and the channel closes upon banning. If I did have logs, I would have posted them beforehand.

Nny: I have no intention of 'spreading slander' or slating anyone.

Leona: I had no intention of arguing with you. I had assumed a bit of friendly chat wouldn't be out of order, and I honestly didn't know why. I assumed you were not serious about calling me an idiot because all I had done is ask you a single question, the answer to which may have been obvious, but it was a pretty simple question to answer. I had no reason to believe you were anywhere close to banning me.
Also, there is no argument against the fact that if you were intending calling me an idiot to be offensive, that it was in no way reasonable. I replied in the way I did because I didn't think you were really serious about calling me an idiot and so you would have no reason to believe I was serious about my retort - which I wasn't. I may act 'an eye for an eye', but I thought your comment was meant to be naught more than a scratch, and so I had no intention of insulting you seriously.
You were there. I personally would have considered arguing being me saying, "You were wrong to ban him," or my busting out a completely out-of-proportion insult. However, if you have a different interpretation I would like to unstand your point of view if you'd care to explain. I mean that seriously.

Cruxis/Riyu*: I have seen for myself that Leona is a perfectly personable person. I have no intention of slating her.

I understand that a long post may make me sound haughty and as if I'm trying to twist events, however, that post was mearly to explain my then current thoughts to Leona and that I meant no harm. I may have sounded 'arguey' in this post, but it's very difficult to explain myself otherwise.

Now, I won't be able to reply to this thread until after school tomorrow at the quickest. Also, I'm on GMT, just to avoid confusion.

Ho-oh Master
30th April 2007, 1:17 AM
If you're considered as arguing with the ops, which is what you were doing, then what do you expect, sheesh. You get banned, then it's your fault. ;\, I kicked that guy out because:
WI-FI DISCUSSION IS ONLY ALLOWED IN THE WI-FI CHAT

And the fact that i already said it a number of times. ;\

And no, why should i unban you, because starting a thread like this just makes you even more stupid to be honest.

So theres not a slight possiblity that he clicked the wrong chat?

Leona
30th April 2007, 7:41 AM
So theres not a slight possiblity that he clicked the wrong chat?

Dude, i think he noticed that he was in the original chat -_-

Sharpedo Boy
30th April 2007, 8:18 AM
No good saying "LEONA BANNED ME LOL"
Besides, it doesn't last long.
It's not like leona lewis is gonna say "UR BANNED SOME PEOPLE WAIT FOR EVA!"
Sorry if I sound like a noob.

Jakotsu
30th April 2007, 11:25 AM
Eh, can I say something? ._.; Yes, I can.

I don't think it's really common that Leona would really do that. After all, I've seen her around and she is very nice and she's not really the type of person to do that. But once you're banned or whatever from her, there is really something wrong and I think you did something that she didn't like.

<<; Ahem, why you made a post of this... umm... talk to her or something?

Trainer Dylan
30th April 2007, 12:39 PM
Yeah man, I see where your comming from. I was banned for almost the same thing. And my computer is really slow, so I figured it wouldn't be to bad if I asked if anyone had a Rhyhorn or Rhydon. I have a screenshot of all the crap she said and was calling me an idiot, and using the "F" word, which I've seen people be banned for. How does she know Im not a 10 year old, and offended by that word? She doesn't, but, but its okay. Because, shes a mod, and all. And that gives her the right to call me names and drop the "F" bomb. The mods are power hungry, I tell ya.

PS: If you don't believe me, PM me and I'll send you the SS.

Ray_Za
30th April 2007, 5:23 PM
Well, sorry about the trouble and if you felt I had meant to insult you, Leona. I'd like to clarify for the other members posting, though, that I was kicked for breaking the 'arguing' rule, rather than requesting a trade. I'll make sure I'll reconsider the next time I try and make a friendly, impolite comment. As for Wiggles whom I mentioned, he was manually kicked for evading a ban from an automatic script which kicks upon sight of '#' then anything immidiately after that, even if it's one of Serebii.net's own channels. He was in fact using the '#' to denote a number, his eighth Gastly or something. Just though I'd make clear what I meant, since I don't want to cause any further arguments.

It might also be a good idea to lock this thread.

Chris
30th April 2007, 5:24 PM
WAH WAH WAH! I MADE A BOOBOO AND INSTEAD OF BLAMING MYSELF FOR BEING BANNED, I THINK I'LL GO COMPLAIN ABOUT AN OP!

Yeah, that's generally what these posts amount to.