View Full Version : ideas for physical sweepers please!

12th May 2007, 8:08 AM
can someone gimme some ideas on what physical sweeper i should get?

please include the EVs which i have to train, nature, move set, trait and preferred held item.

this Pokemon will most likely be used in battle tower/frontier and will be team with these following Pokemon:

starmie, modest, natural cure@ shell bell

hp: 255
attack: 155
defense: 206
special attack: 312
special defense: 200
speed: 306

> ice beam

regice, sassy nature, clear body @ leftovers

hp: 287
attack: 112
defense: 217
special attack: 282
special defense: 525
speed: 110

move set:
>ice beam
>sleep talk

suggestions about changes to regice and starmie's held items are welcome as well!

ty and all the best

12th May 2007, 10:55 AM
Metagross, Heracross, Salamence, Flygon Slaking are all good physical sweepers.
If you have access to FR/LG, then you can also get Snorlax (replace Regice), Aerodactyl, or Tyranitar.

13th May 2007, 1:48 PM
but regice isnt offensive or anything its a wall

13th May 2007, 1:50 PM
base 100 special attack and boltbeam is quite offensive in my opinion.

13th May 2007, 1:51 PM
how about: aerodactyl or scuckle :p (with power trick)

13th May 2007, 1:58 PM
how about: aerodactyl or scuckle :p (with power trick)

power trick=DP. yes it was probably a joke, but dont post stuff unless it is useful.

aerodactyl on the otherhand could be useful. fast sweepage with CB..

aerodactyl@choice band
evs:252 Atk, 252 Spd, 4 Hp
**rock head**
-double edge
-rock slide
-aerial ace

evs:252 Hp, 96 Def, 20 Spd, 140 S.Atk
-ice beam
-sleep talk/thunderwave/toxic/counter/psych up

starmie@shell bell
evs:252 S.Atk, 252 Spd, 4 Hp
**natural cure**
-ice beam

13th May 2007, 2:28 PM
My favorite is SDCross, but you would need lo change around items.

Heracross@Shell Bell
EVs:252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
-Swords Dance
-Brick Break
-Rock Slide

AF's Aerodactyl looks good, I would go with him if you have FR and want a CBer. Also these:

Metagross@Lum Berry
*Clear Body*
EVs:160 HP/252 Atk/96 Spd
-Meteor Mash
-Explosion/Sludge Bomb/Rock Slide

If you used your Explosion tutor, use Sludge Bomb/Rock Slide...or if you just hate explosion.

Salamence@Choice Band
EVs:252 Atk/252 Spd/4 Hp
-Rock Slide
-Aerial Ace
-Fire Blast/Brick Break

I would use Mence, Gross, or Dactyl so that reworking held items for Cross doesn't give you a headache.

14th May 2007, 9:30 AM
alright...ill get heracross since i jsut bred a jolly natured one

but...is there really a use for sword dance since i want to give it choice band rather than shell bell...becos bell belongs to my starmie

The Mighty Wurmple
14th May 2007, 9:50 AM
Swords Dance greatly helps Heracross's attacking abilities.

15th May 2007, 7:50 AM
but if i give it choice band...its not a great idea to use swords dance...

15th May 2007, 7:57 AM
Heracross @ Choice Band
Trait: Guts
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Megahorn
- Rock Slide
- Brick Break
- Fašade

16th May 2007, 7:51 AM
hmm...i like dat ^

but what abt jolly nature...(+speed, -Special attack)

16th May 2007, 10:07 AM
You'll want as much Attack as possible.

16th May 2007, 3:01 PM
well...i kinda have a different view than crudent...whats the point of all those attack when u cant even land a hit....i know attack wins games but without speed your gone before you can even put those attacks in use...but then its just my opinion...and i guess im not bothered to keep searching for another heracross as well... >.> took me 150+ staryus to get modest, and 90 heracross so far and no adamant...and looking at the attack stat of heracross i think giving up a few attack points for a few extra speed points would be reasonable...

16th May 2007, 4:17 PM
What's the use of having a faster pokemon if you can't even land a hard enough hit. It's your choice: a slower OHKO, or a 2HKO. You'll get hit at least once anyway.

16th May 2007, 8:49 PM
This is for Emerald, right? Get an Adamant Ditto and give it an everstone and breed with a Male Heracross. 50% chance of getting Adamant Heracross, then you just pick whichever has the highest IVs.

17th May 2007, 8:57 AM
^ now dat sounds like a plan...what about if i send the ditto and heracross to sapphire...the everstone thingy still works right...i want the extra exp thing

17th May 2007, 10:08 AM
The Everstone Trick is only in Emerald. First breed and hatch an Adamant Heracross, then send it across to Sapphire to train with boosted experience. You can also simply clone (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=134181) Rare Candies and train it to level 100 in Emerald (after EV training (http://serebii.net/pokedex-rs/ev.shtml)).

17th May 2007, 12:14 PM
I have a Physical Sweeper Medicham that isn't bad. ^.^

Its base stats aren't fantastic, but it's decently quick and Pure Power boosts its Attack.

18th May 2007, 9:44 AM
ar...about the rare candies thingy...sorry i wanna be legit and anti clone so yea...but i might get a linoone or zigzagoon to lvl 91 and use the pick up...

and thanx for the medicham suggestion