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Gilgamesh
23rd June 2007, 4:40 PM
Venusaur @ Leftovers
252 hp, 129 def, 129 sdef
Careful nature
- Leech Seed
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Synthesis

Salamence @ Choice Band
252 atk, 252 spd, 4 hp
Adamant Nature
- Arial Ace
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Double Edge

Milotic @ Shell Bell
252 def, 252 hp, 4 spd
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Toxic
- Recover

nubinator
23rd June 2007, 10:00 PM
Imo, Switch Vaporeon and Venasaur items.

Sludge Bomb> Razor Leaf/ Substitute.

Gilgamesh
23rd June 2007, 11:23 PM
Venusaur doesn't really need Lum Berry imo, he doesn't get affected by Toxic, and he has sub. But I guess Vaporeon needs the lefties more.
Without Razor Leaf Swampert is gonna rape me.
I seriously need to replace that godawful Zapdos, but with what? ._.

Reno
24th June 2007, 12:18 AM
venusaur needs no substitute. and needs more

venusaur@leftovers
careful/sassy
-synthenesis/razor leaf
-sludge bomb
-leech seed
-sleep powder

vaporeon@some haxxy item as leftovers is taken by the saur
bold
-surf
-wish
-baton pass
-substitute

zapdos@shell bell
rash
-drill peck
-thunder wave
-thunderbolt
-substitute

loled at pretty much no physical presence on your team. get a choice bander for your own sake. and this team=boltbeam weak.

Gilgamesh
24th June 2007, 7:04 PM
There, I changed pretty much everything now. I hope the team's more balanced. More rates would be helpful.

Reno
24th June 2007, 9:10 PM
Venusaur @ Leftovers
252 hp, 129 def, 129 sdef bad evs but i dont know the right ones off by heart
Calm nature calm with sludge bomb. well done. use sassy.
- Leech Seed
- Sludge Bomb
- Sleep Powder
- Razor Leaf

Salamence @ Choice Band
252 atk, 252 spd, 4 hp
Adamant Nature
- Arial Ace
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Double Edge fire blast

Milotic @ Brightpowder shell bell if you must as it at least heals hp.
252 def, 129 sdef, 129 hp max hp and def. 4 in speed.
Bold Nature
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Mirror Coat toxic/ hypnosis
- Recover

Yea. Changed a lot, it's still not great though. Need help with Milotic's EVs.


fixed. you could go with restalk milotic if you really wanted to.

Gilgamesh
25th June 2007, 12:37 PM
I'll go with Double Edge on Salamence, because then I can kill Swampert without Razor Leaf. That allows Venusaur to have Synthesis instead.
And it's not like I can't kill those sucky frontier Skarms without FB.

Right?