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Prio
30th June 2007, 7:58 AM
Remember when Ash wanted to be a Pokemon master? Now all he does is wait for Pokemon to follow him before catching them, not counting the flying ones, because he has to have something to pop TR's balloon.

uber gon
30th June 2007, 9:22 AM
Remember when Ash wanted to be a Pokemon master? Now all he does is wait for Pokemon to follow him before catching them, not counting the flying ones, because he has to have something to pop TR's balloon.

The writers want to make a theme paradox.

scizor08
1st July 2007, 4:00 AM
I think Ash will be one at the very end of the show..

Anzua2
1st July 2007, 6:59 AM
The writers are sadistic.
They made a hero who completely sucks at doing what he wants to master and never gets any better.

ShinyManafi
1st July 2007, 7:14 AM
I think that was just something they said to get the anime going...

Power of Fire
1st July 2007, 8:48 AM
ash still does want's to become a master but can you all 493 pokemon?? i don't think so. so the writer are just putting the pokemon master thing on the sidelines.

;001;-;493;

uber gon
1st July 2007, 8:59 AM
Maybe it's something that can be interpreted in various ways.

PokemonTrainerLisa
1st July 2007, 9:16 AM
Actually, becoming a Pokemon Master has nothing to do with the phrase "Gotta catch 'em all"....

That phrase was just a marketing thing used for the first season of the dub and they obviously got that catch phrase from the games.


And as for Ash wanting to become a Pokemon Master, yes, he still wants to achieve that goal. He made that perfectly clear at the end of "Me, Myself, and Time".

I think at this point, the writers just aren't focusing on Ash's goal in the anime. Though I believe that eventually, probably in the second to last season (or in the last season), they will have Ash become a Pokemon Master. Of course, the obvious reason why this hasn't happened yet is - when Ash becomes a Pokemon Master, that would probably mean the end of the show. ^^o



Anyway, becoming a Pokemon Master has nothing to do with catching *one* of every Pokemon there is, but rather it means: being the world's greatest Pokemon trainer.

So yeah, a Pokemon Master is just a title or rank, for being the world's greatest trainer.



This is just another mystery of the Pokemon anime. I mean, they've never defined that term before in the anime....

Also, it's kind of funny how we all know that Ash's number one goal is to become a Pokemon Master. But as viewers of the show, we don't know what one is yet - because they haven't revealed what a Pokemon Master is, or even the requirements of how someone can achieve that title/rank. All we know about the requirements for a Pokemon Master is what Ash does - going to every region, earning all the badges, and competing in that region's league.


But besides that, what else is required for Ash to achieve this goal? There has to be something more to it than that, and I'm guessing Ash might have to defeat one (or all) of one region's Elite Four members.

Sir Devious
1st July 2007, 10:32 AM
Ehh... that's when he was all "OMFG YOU ARE ALL N00BS I PWN YOU ALL BOW DOWN TO BE OR I WILL OPEN UP A CAN OF WHOOP-ASH ON YOU!!1one". Now he reallly see's about lifes lessons and all that crap. Plus isn't the winner of a league called "Pokemon Master"?? That's what the announcer for the Kanto league said when it all started... Mabie he still is trying to...? IDK. I mean he DID go to the BF just to conquer it and be the BF Master... mabie he just likes adventure and to win??

Rex Kamex
1st July 2007, 8:38 PM
I will not be surprised if in the very last episode of Pokemon, a wise old man will tell Ash that he had achieved the goal of being a Pokemon Master a long time ago due to the way he took care of his Pokemon, not giving up during his battles and training, and also helping those in need. Seriously...

Brainiac11
1st July 2007, 8:44 PM
I think the series should end pretty soon. I mean its been going on for 10 straight seasons.

Korobooshi Kojiro
2nd July 2007, 1:27 AM
GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL!

Was pretty much a dub add-on. There is no suggestion that simply catching them all makes you one.


and never gets any better.
Yeah...he does.

Cenzo
2nd July 2007, 1:28 AM
GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL!

Was pretty much a dub add-on. There is no suggestion that simply catching them all makes you one.


Yeah...he does.

The nail has been hit on the head. Catching them all does not make you a master.

flyboy1308
3rd July 2007, 6:04 AM
To be a Pokemon Master, you have to be supa crazy strong, and have a Pikachu.

Anzua2
3rd July 2007, 6:14 AM
The nail has been hit on the head. Catching them all does not make you a master.

Actually, it seems you would need to at least be a master to catch Mewtwo in the Anime, so yes, you would be a master. You probably don't have to catch them all, but doing so just proves your status.

Kazekun
3rd July 2007, 6:43 AM
In a way, I think a Pokemon Master is defined on what he/she does as a Pokemon trainer.

As for what happened to Ash wanting to be one, he definetly wants to be one still.

Jonessodaco.Chris
3rd July 2007, 6:50 AM
hes gonna become one in the second last or final season... and he wont have all pokemon he will just use all his caught pokemon and be freakin awesome cause hes a great trainer

Kazekun
3rd July 2007, 6:55 AM
It'll probably be in the final episode of the series he gains the title of Pokemon Master, because the point of his journey is to become one, if he became one in the next to last season, there really wouldn't anymore reason to go on with the show.

SBaby
3rd July 2007, 10:14 AM
It got turned into, 'I'm gonna make more kids buy the DS!'.

Really, Pokemon is sort of a commercial for the games and systems that they go with.

Overall, much like the whole thing with the GS Ball, the writers probably just forgot about it, because they figured that the feeble minds of children would never remember it anyway.

!!!Serebii Lover!!!
3rd July 2007, 11:08 AM
I don't care if he ever becomes one because when he does the show will end and I really love the show so I don't actully want him to be a pm!

Black Hawk
3rd July 2007, 11:11 AM
ash realised he is too crap to be "the master" and gave up, just to follow the life of the average trainer xD

Blaperile
3rd July 2007, 6:28 PM
I think Ash will be one at the very end of the show..

I think that too, or maybe not we wil see. :p

Rex Kamex
3rd July 2007, 11:09 PM
I don't care if he ever becomes one because when he does the show will end and I really love the show so I don't actully want him to be a pm!

You don't want Ash to fulfill his dream? (Because of that reason?)

Anzua2
3rd July 2007, 11:23 PM
I want him to fail just to see the series end on a bad note.

That, or he can go into seclusion like Red.

Kazekun
4th July 2007, 1:36 AM
I want him to fail just to see the series end on a bad note.

That, or he can go into seclusion like Red.

Why you bein' so negative man?

grasswhistle
4th July 2007, 9:51 AM
well i think that his dream to "be the master" was just an ambition he had as a young trainer to get his journey going. now ash is more focused right now on training plenty of good pokemon to somewhat fulfill that goal however it isnt his main priority.

if you have seen the manaphy move or any of the episodes where pokemon rangers are in ash acts very into the whole idea of rangers and i think that someday he will become a ranger and pikachu will be his partner pokemon.

also, is ash's dad like dead or something? or is he on a journey of his own?

Shiny pokemon lover
5th July 2007, 11:36 AM
I don't care if he ever becomes one because when he does the show will end and I really love the show so I don't actully want him to be a pm!

No, you are right if he became an pokemon master now they had to end the show. That would be to bad!

Rooreelooo
5th July 2007, 8:00 PM
It would be funny if the series ended when Gary became a pokémon master. But yeah, I agree with MJC CartoGuy.

He will be told that being a pokémon master is not about the amount of badges you won, or the strength of your pokémon, or winning the leagues. It's about loving and having an unbreakable bond with your pokémon, as well as the heart to help those who truely need it and the courage to stand up for what's right.

I can see it now:
"But... Gary defeated the Elite 4! He became a pokémon master before me!"
"Don't you see Ash. Because of the pureness of your heart, you were born as a pokémon master."
"WOO"

Anzua2
5th July 2007, 8:36 PM
Why you bein' so negative man?

Because the series is too up-beat.

Mercutio
5th July 2007, 11:52 PM
Honestly, the 'master' idea was stupid and the writers realised it. I mean, capture and record every single pokemon? Come on, that's stupid. Since for some reason nted researchers like Oak wouldn't know what a Ralts was before 3rd gen, I don't think master is an easy title to get.

Were master something like 'be at one with all of your pokemon', them Ash would get it.

YaoiLink
6th July 2007, 1:17 AM
i think ash would have been a master already if he doesnt start from scratch all the time with his pokemon @.@

Kametsou
6th July 2007, 2:16 PM
It was a slogan that was meant for the first season. If he continued saying it, I think every one would get annoyed by it.

Leon Phelps
6th July 2007, 3:00 PM
I think at this point, the writers just aren't focusing on Ash's goal in the anime. Though I believe that eventually, probably in the second to last season (or in the last season), they will have Ash become a Pokemon Master. Of course, the obvious reason why this hasn't happened yet is - when Ash becomes a Pokemon Master, that would probably mean the end of the show. ^^o
This show won't ever have a conclusion. Not even a halfassed wrap up episode. I believe that it will go unfinished to keep the show "open-ended" and "up to the viewer" like they did with the Sopranos.


Anyway, becoming a Pokemon Master has nothing to do with catching *one* of every Pokemon there is, but rather it means: being the world's greatest Pokemon trainer.

So yeah, a Pokemon Master is just a title or rank, for being the world's greatest trainer.

This is just another mystery of the Pokemon anime. I mean, they've never defined that term before in the anime....

Further evidence that this has got to be one of the worst anime shows in history. Not even the primary plot device means anything.