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Kirby
7th July 2007, 8:44 AM
So, there are 4368576438576348756348758345 topics on people complaining they have been banned unfairly. There is at least a new topic everyday, so instead of making a jillion topics, why not have one huge topic for it ;)

But there are some rules that need to be put into place. When you complain about a ban, you must include the following things.

1. Logs. Logs are basically a copy of the conversation and show what was going on at the time of the kick. Now, I know some people cannot get logs, because either they don't log, or use java. And when you get kicked, it closes the chatroom window, so then you can't even take a screenshot.

So, if you were unable to get logs, or a screenshot, PM an OP who was there at the time, someone with either a @ or a % next to their name, and ask them for logs. Or, you can just say what your chatroom nickname was, and one of us can look through our logs and clarify. Which leads to another thing.

2. Include the nickname you used in the chatroom at the time. We will have a hard time helping you if you don't include the nickname.

3. Include the name of the operator who kicked you.

4. Include which chatroom you were kicked from. It must be either #SPP or #SPP-Wifi, any other chatroom we cannot help you with. If you get banned from the server itself, we cannot help you with that either. However, the server does have its own website, so you can go there for help.

http://www.purplesurge.com

5. Try to include the ban message you got when you were banned. You can find this in the status window, and it will look something like this.

[00:40] * You were kicked from #SPP by Aipom (Please do not offer Arceus for trading, as there is no legit way to obtain this pokemon as of now)

At the most, please at least include your nickname, that way we can look through our logs for the reason why you were banned.

Thanks.

EDIT: We've all heard it, the "My brother did something to my account and I am now banned please unban I didn't do anything HELP!!!!1111" excuses, and guess what? They're not going to fly. You are 100% responsible for what happens with your computer, so if you, your dog, brother, mom, aunt, cousin twice removed, etc, gets you banned, then you're banned until that ban has been served. Plus, 99% of the time those excuses are lies anyways.

Kreis
7th July 2007, 8:54 AM
Actually, I've been banned plenty of times unfairly. Yes, its my EvAnEsCeNcE. At times I dont even post and I get banned for some wierd reason. It hasnt been happening lately. I dont know if its the scripts but its getting tiring. I get called a clone, and BAM, I'm banned. Its annoying getting banned for doing nothing at all. It just sort of happens randomly. At times I get banned for things, which I understand, but random bannings are just wierd. I'll notify when it happens again though.

Kreis
7th July 2007, 9:37 AM
Well, I got banned like 3 times being called a clone. The other times were just random. It happens when I'm talking to someone. Lets see, me and Jess were in conversation, when suddenly I get banned by her, but she said she didnt do it(I believe her) I dont really know why it does this.

linker009
8th July 2007, 7:13 AM
I used around 6 exclamation marks not knowing there was a limit, and i was kicked out by some guy, and its been atleast 3 hours scince thtem, and i still can't join the channel. what happened?

Erik Destler
8th July 2007, 10:15 AM
You got banned.

Post logs plz.

Also, who did it.. :<

And finally, doesn't this go in Chatroom Discussion :P

Mello
9th July 2007, 1:16 AM
I find it annoying reading the complaints that people write up in barely legible grammar. Maybe we could use a form? Here's one I came up with:

Nick:
Chatroom:
Operator who kicked you:
Kick Messege (If known):
Logs (If Any):
Other Notes:

I dunno if it'll work, but it might make things easier to read.

Anyway, @ Suicune: You may have gotten the clone ban by opening up multiple Java windows.

Ho-oh Master
9th July 2007, 2:50 AM
One of the things is that Java users can't get Chat logs once kicked.

Kreis
9th July 2007, 7:53 AM
I find it annoying reading the complaints that people write up in barely legible grammar. Maybe we could use a form? Here's one I came up with:

Nick:
Chatroom:
Operator who kicked you:
Kick Messege (If known):
Logs (If Any):
Other Notes:

I dunno if it'll work, but it might make things easier to read.

Anyway, @ Suicune: You may have gotten the clone ban by opening up multiple Java windows.

Well, as I said I got called a clone around 3 times. I only had the SPP WiFi in my screen, along with the forum screen. So, as I said they are just random bannings.

darkgamerGS
11th July 2007, 5:17 PM
It was probably me... and the rules are posted in the topic. You could have PMed me about it, and I would have unbanned you in five minutes if you ask nicely. I lose track of who I ban easily, so... sorry.

DustiQ
11th July 2007, 11:08 PM
Nick: Panda
Chatroom: #SPP-Wifi
Operator who kicked you: Leona
Kick Messege (If known): Clones, loosely.
Logs (If Any): None
Other Notes: My brother and I are on the Serebii-wifi chat at the same time pretty often. We have the same IP address, but different computers.

I'd appreciate it if this occurence can be taken into consideration.

Kirby
12th July 2007, 8:23 AM
One of the things is that Java users can't get Chat logs once kicked.

Hence the part where I said give us at least your name, so we can look through our logs, or did you miss that?

DustiQ, we get a lot of people coming in, getting banned, then saying "My brother/cousin/uncle/dog/pet spider was using my computer not my fault.."

If this happens again, just PM another active op, or Leona, and explain to her/him/whoever you're PMing in a kind and well thought out manner (most of the people who clone and claim their brother, sister, etc did it, can't spell, and are generally unintelligent) what has happened, and if you could please be let it again.

Denni
12th July 2007, 3:37 PM
Just got banned, by Leona.
Probably something to do with my flatmate (who goes by Zorr) and me both having our internet through the same router (so, I presume, same IP or whatever) as there as a whois check just before I got kicked.
It was from SPP-WiFi, and my username is Denni.

kirkeastment
14th July 2007, 11:03 AM
i was kicked off the chat by asuka @10:58 am, UK time, for asking for a darkrai.

now given the fact that darkrai is now legally available, why was i kicked

Ryuusei
14th July 2007, 11:16 AM
The ops didn't edit the scripts yet.

'Nuff said.

Kirby
14th July 2007, 11:27 AM
i was kicked off the chat by asuka @10:58 am, UK time, for asking for a darkrai.

now given the fact that darkrai is now legally available, why was i kicked

If I recall correctly, and yes, I MAY Be wrong, Darkrai, due to the glitch and hacks, has been banned from trading over GTS.

Using that logic, that may be why we still have it set to ban people for asking for a Darkrai in SPP-Wifi.

That's what I'd assume, anyways. I don't use scripts now, though.

Vader hater
15th July 2007, 8:25 PM
I said Darkrai but then like minute later I got kicked.
[15:07] You've been kicked out of #spp-wifi by Erik_Destler (DON'T EVEN GO THERE!! DARKRAI DISCUSSION IS BAAAAD.)

Ho-oh Master
15th July 2007, 8:42 PM
I said Darkrai but then like minute later I got kicked.
[15:07] You've been kicked out of #spp-wifi by Erik_Destler (DON'T EVEN GO THERE!! DARKRAI DISCUSSION IS BAAAAD.)

If you would look at Aipom's post right aboce yours you would see why.

Darkrai wont be on the GTS until America gets the event.

MidnightScott
15th July 2007, 9:13 PM
I've been banned for a long time and don't know why. Every time I go in there it's instant kick. Yet I'm not banned from SPP-WiFi...hmm...

~Scott;229;

Erik Destler
16th July 2007, 7:00 AM
Dunno Scott.. pm me some time..

What's the message?

celestial_okami
17th July 2007, 9:40 PM
Sorry to be a bother but something somewhat strange happened to me recently.

I went to sign into #SPP and #spp-wifi today and as soon as I tried to join I got kicked. The ban message said I was 'Shitlisted' (sorry for language but thats what it said) and that I had been kicked for flooding, spamming, and nick impersonation. When I sent a message to the mod, Asuka, asking why, I was told that I had the same 'hostmask' as some other person (one of the names was Tuesday, I cant remember the others), that I can't deny I am that person because our hostmasks are identical, and that there is no getting around the ban.

Here's the thing - I am not this person, and I haven't a clue who is! I haven't even been to the Serebii chatrooms in at least a week or so. I tried asking if there was some way I could prove I wasn't this person but to no avail.

Is there something I can do to prove I am not this person? Is it possible for us to have the same hostmasks? What can I do?

Some other relevant information -
My service provider is SBC Yahoo, and have a DSL connection. I use a wireless router which requires a WEP to log into (so I don't think that someone else is using our connection). Nobody else in the household visits the Serebii chatrooms, and I was connecting using mIRC under the nickname celestial_okami, which I have been using for some time now.

If there are any other questions please ask. I don't hold anything against the mod who I talked to nor Serebii.net, I just want to clear up this case of 'mistaken identity' so to speak.

Neal
18th July 2007, 1:40 AM
Sorry to be a bother but something somewhat strange happened to me recently.

I went to sign into #SPP and #spp-wifi today and as soon as I tried to join I got kicked. The ban message said I was 'Shitlisted' (sorry for language but thats what it said) and that I had been kicked for flooding, spamming, and nick impersonation. When I sent a message to the mod, Asuka, asking why, I was told that I had the same 'hostmask' as some other person (one of the names was Tuesday, I cant remember the others), that I can't deny I am that person because our hostmasks are identical, and that there is no getting around the ban.

Here's the thing - I am not this person, and I haven't a clue who is! I haven't even been to the Serebii chatrooms in at least a week or so. I tried asking if there was some way I could prove I wasn't this person but to no avail.

Is there something I can do to prove I am not this person? Is it possible for us to have the same hostmasks? What can I do?

Some other relevant information -
My service provider is SBC Yahoo, and have a DSL connection. I use a wireless router which requires a WEP to log into (so I don't think that someone else is using our connection). Nobody else in the household visits the Serebii chatrooms, and I was connecting using mIRC under the nickname celestial_okami, which I have been using for some time now.

If there are any other questions please ask. I don't hold anything against the mod who I talked to nor Serebii.net, I just want to clear up this case of 'mistaken identity' so to speak.

I must apologize, Celestial_Okami, I wrote that script for Asuka. You will have to find a way to evade that script on your side, despite what she can do on her sde.

[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:49:25 PM] <Neal> Heh, his ident is always pokezamus.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:49:33 PM] <Asuka> Yeah
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:49:46 PM] <Asuka> Let me see if I can set this up correctly
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:51:07 PM] <Neal> on @*:join:#: { if (*!*pokezamus*@*.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net iswm $address($nick,1) { /ban -k $chan $nick 4 **** off } }
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:51:16 PM] <Asuka> Thank you
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:51:32 PM] <Neal> on @*:join:#: { if (*!*pokezamus*@*.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net iswm $address($nick,1)) { /ban -k $chan $nick 4 **** off } }
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:52:56 PM] <Asuka> Mmmkay.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:53:15 PM] <Asuka> I'm gonna temporarily shitlist you in order to test it
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:53:15 PM] <Asuka> :O
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:53:20 PM] <Asuka> k
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:53:21 PM] <Asuka> ;\
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:53:42 PM] <Neal> Mine is.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:53:48 PM] <Neal> *!*@*.fld-bsr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:53:56 PM] <Neal> //say $address($me,4)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:53:58 PM] <Neal> Level 4 lol.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:54:31 PM] <Asuka> I'mma set it to 2
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:54:36 PM] <Asuka> Cause of #spp and other people and... yeah
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:54:37 PM] <Neal> //say $address($me,2)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:54:42 PM] <Neal> *!*@24-136-20-168.fld-bsr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com
[July 12 2007 Thursday 05:54:48 PM] <Asuka> hop plz

-

[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:20 PM] <Neal> Change the 1 to 4.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:42 PM] <Asuka> Done
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:44 PM] * Attempting to rejoin channel #omgpwned
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] * Rejoined channel #omgpwned
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] I detect to being fjoined here.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned is "#omgpwned -- The number one channel for PENAL BEEP | http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/naughty01.htm | One does not simply ride the bangbus into #spp"
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned was set by Asuka on Friday 06/22/2007 10:40:36 PM
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned was created 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours 21 minutes 9 seconds (475 hours 21 minutes 9 seconds)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] * Asuka sets mode: +b *!*@24-136-20-168.fld-bsr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:45 PM] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Neal
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:46 PM] * You were kicked from #omgpwned by Asuka (Shitlisted -- Trolling, flooding, and nick impersonation.)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:46 PM] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:46 PM] * Rejoined channel #omgpwned
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:46 PM] I detect to being fjoined here.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:46 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:46 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned is "#omgpwned -- The number one channel for PENAL BEEP | http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/naughty01.htm | One does not simply ride the bangbus into #spp"
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:46 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:46 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned was set by Asuka on Friday 06/22/2007 10:40:36 PM
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:47 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:47 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned was created 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours 21 minutes 11 seconds (475 hours 21 minutes 11 seconds)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:47 PM] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Neal
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:47 PM] * You were kicked from #omgpwned by Asuka (Shitlisted -- Trolling, flooding, and nick impersonation.)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:48 PM] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] * Rejoined channel #omgpwned
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] I detect to being fjoined here.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned is "#omgpwned -- The number one channel for PENAL BEEP | http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/naughty01.htm | One does not simply ride the bangbus into #spp"
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned was set by Asuka on Friday 06/22/2007 10:40:36 PM
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned was created 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours 21 minutes 13 seconds (475 hours 21 minutes 12 seconds)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Neal
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] * You were kicked from #omgpwned by Asuka (Shitlisted -- Trolling, flooding, and nick impersonation.)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:49 PM] * Remote is off
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:01:52 PM] * Unable to join channel (address is banned)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:04 PM] * Remote is on (Ctcps,Events,Raw)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:51 PM] * Rejoined channel #omgpwned
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:51 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:51 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned is "#omgpwned -- The number one channel for PENAL BEEP | http://www.seanbaby.com/nes/naughty01.htm | One does not simply ride the bangbus into #spp"
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:51 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:51 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned was set by Asuka on Friday 06/22/2007 10:40:36 PM
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:51 PM] [July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:51 PM] * The topic of #omgpwned was created 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours 22 minutes 15 seconds (475 hours 22 minutes 14 seconds)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:02:51 PM] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Neal
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:03:01 PM] <Asuka> :O
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:03:18 PM] <Neal> ;D
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:04:02 PM] <Asuka> It didn't ban
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:04:03 PM] <Asuka> :O
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:04:07 PM] <Neal> 1st time it did.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:04:10 PM] <Asuka> Oh
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:04:11 PM] <Asuka> XD
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:04:18 PM] <Asuka> Yay :D
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:04:24 PM] * Asuka edits to perfection
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:04:38 PM] <Neal> You can also make a list of nicks to kick.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:05:02 PM] <Asuka> I know
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:05:04 PM] <Asuka> I can do that much
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:05:04 PM] <Asuka> XD
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:06:06 PM] * Asuka sets mode: -b *!*@24-136-20-168.fld-bsr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:06:21 PM] <Neal> You have been unbanned by Asuka in #omgpwned at 6:06:06 (*!*@24-136-20-168.fld-bsr1.chi-fld.il.cable.rcn.com).
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:06:28 PM] <Asuka> lol
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:06:34 PM] <Asuka> 6:06:06 :O
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:06:47 PM] <Neal> Ahaha.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:06:50 PM] <Neal> Chicago timezone.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:06:52 PM] <Neal> CST.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:07:55 PM] <Neal> So whomever you want to add shitlisted.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:07:58 PM] <Neal> When they're on.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:08:08 PM] <Neal> Just //echo -a $address(<their nick>, 2).
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:08:33 PM] <Asuka> k
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:08:38 PM] <Neal> then add that host to if ($address($nick,2) iswm host)
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:08:40 PM] <Neal> After a ||.
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:08:55 PM] <Asuka> I used elseif, actually

This is the code that Asuka is using to ban kick you.

[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:09:01 PM] <Asuka> on @*:join:#: {
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:09:01 PM] <Asuka> if ($address($nick, 4) iswm *!*pokezamus*@*.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) { /ban -k $chan $nick 2 Shitlisted -- Trolling, flooding, and nick impersonation. }
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:09:01 PM] <Asuka> elseif ($address($nick, 4) iswm *!*@adsl-75-42-67-147.dsl.scrm01.sbcglobal.net) { /ban -k $chan $nick 2 Shitlisted -- Trolling, flooding, and nick impersonation. }
[July 12 2007 Thursday 06:09:01 PM] <Asuka> }

Therefore, if you like, you would have to evade it...

I would recommend picking a different ident. Or getting a shell or vhost. Dejatoon's hostserv is another possibility I guess.

kirkeastment
18th July 2007, 6:17 PM
ok i was kicked off the chat by Erik_Destler

all i was doing was asking anyone if they had any 10JAHRE, PCNY or japanese event pokemon


[18:12] You've been kicked out of #spp-wifi by Erik_Destler (i daresay you should specify (2382))

could someone plz tell me why i was kicked

Ho-oh Master
18th July 2007, 8:56 PM
Darkrai and co are still considered Fake, until they come out in America.

Chris
18th July 2007, 9:03 PM
No, it just means to kinda specify what Japanese events you're looking for. We get a lot of people who come around, say they're looking for "Japanese events", and turn out to just want Arceus or Shaymin. Darkrai we're not allowing just yet. Perhaps in a week once the initial hype dies down.

kirkeastment
18th July 2007, 9:04 PM
ah ok, thanks for that clarification CC, however there are still over 100 other JP event poke's i'm looking for that are difficult to classify in other categories other than just japanese events.

TBDcool
18th July 2007, 9:10 PM
I got kicked for saying darkrai accidently when some one else asked about it. i said "darkrais are soo cheeeap" and i got kicked.

Shuko
18th July 2007, 9:40 PM
I got kicked for saying darkrai accidently when some one else asked about it. i said "darkrais are soo cheeeap" and i got kicked.That's not an unfair kick. :p Anyone who uses the chat regularly gets kicked for similar mistakes, lol. Or at least, those of us who get distracted easily. I can't tell you how many times I've been kicked for accidentally posting the # sign without a space afterwards. xD And then there's the times when the chat lags and I get kicked for flooding when my posts were many seconds apart (and weren't the same thing, lol).

The bottom line is that these kicks don't last long, so they're nothing to complain about. If anything, they're something to laugh about when you do get back in. :p

.Vaati.
18th July 2007, 10:30 PM
Nick: Vaati
Chatroom: Trading one
Operator who kicked you: Nny
Kick Messege (If known): Don't abuse !!!!, aparently, using four ! in a very short message is a crime worth punishing
Logs (If Any): Don't have - I'll try to get
Other Notes: It doesn't say I can't use 4 ! points in the rules under the chat. If you want to kick someone, kick the people with the messages that take up 1/3 of the box.

kirkeastment
18th July 2007, 11:23 PM
banned again

You've been kicked out of #spp-wifi by Nny (Specify the event pokemon you want. (6246))

all i said was that i was looking for PALCITY pokemon, and that i would offer cherish ball jirachi and other event pokemon

Chris
19th July 2007, 12:16 AM
Nick: Vaati
Chatroom: Trading one
Operator who kicked you: Nny
Kick Messege (If known): Don't abuse !!!!, aparently, using four ! in a very short message is a crime worth punishing
Logs (If Any): Don't have - I'll try to get
Other Notes: It doesn't say I can't use 4 ! points in the rules under the chat. If you want to kick someone, kick the people with the messages that take up 1/3 of the box.
It's not a rule, eh?

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=245617

If you can come here to complain about it, then you can come here and look at the STICKY regarding the rules.


banned again

You've been kicked out of #spp-wifi by Nny (Specify the event pokemon you want. (6246))

all i said was that i was looking for PALCITY pokemon, and that i would offer cherish ball jirachi and other event pokemon
I checked with Nny. It's just a triggered kick, not a ban. Apparently he has it kick on the word "event." He removed it from his triggers.

Fern
19th July 2007, 6:39 PM
You know, I understood the first time I got kicked for "not specifying events" but the 3rd..and now fourth?? Maybe Im just..not getting something..I see people all the time trading/asking for events but I listed all my events (NO I didn't even mention Darkrai.) And everytime I get kicked. This rest time it was optimus prime for "you iz trying to evades teh scriptz dat r bad" or something.I believe that kicked me. other time it was nnyn, and before that I can't remember. Can someone please clear this are we not allowed to even offer regular events?

Ryuusei
20th July 2007, 12:19 PM
They just have the words 'Events' as a trigger on their Kick Scripts, so yeah. Blame the hype of Darkrai and Arceus. And maybe Shaymin too.

Letan
20th July 2007, 4:36 PM
Name: Letan (registered nickname by me)
Op: Deidara
Kick Message: [11:30] You've been kicked out of #SPP by Deidara (#spp-wifi hmm ««Wins: ?1304? »»)
I have no idea why I was kicked, I only posted one message involving what I was trading, and I got kicked. And the things I was trading were an Uxie, Rayquaza, Groudon, and Latios. Why was I kicked?

PLANES CURE TOWERS
20th July 2007, 4:40 PM
Name: Letan (registered nickname by me)
Op: Deidara
Kick Message: [11:30] You've been kicked out of #SPP by Deidara (#spp-wifi hmm ««Wins: ?1304? »»)
I have no idea why I was kicked, I only posted one message involving what I was trading, and I got kicked. And the things I was trading were an Uxie, Rayquaza, Groudon, and Latios. Why was I kicked?
Because you were in the wrong channel. If you want to trade things you should do what it says when you enter the chatroom, and go to #SPP-Wifi. :\

.Vaati.
20th July 2007, 6:12 PM
It's not a rule, eh?

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=245617

If you can come here to complain about it, then you can come here and look at the STICKY regarding the rules.


It doesn't clearly say what an overuse is. One would think that an example of an overuse would be the one in the topic


?????????????????????????????????????????? ????????????????????????????

Compared to the example of what not to do, using 4 (!) signs is not an overuse. The staff should decide on a number instead of being so cloudy.

Nny
20th July 2007, 6:14 PM
You know, I understood the first time I got kicked for "not specifying events" but the 3rd..and now fourth?? Maybe Im just..not getting something..I see people all the time trading/asking for events but I listed all my events (NO I didn't even mention Darkrai.) And everytime I get kicked. This rest time it was optimus prime for "you iz trying to evades teh scriptz dat r bad" or something.I believe that kicked me. other time it was nnyn, and before that I can't remember. Can someone please clear this are we not allowed to even offer regular events?
I did have 'event' in my script but I removed it. Also the only thing it did was kick you guys and not ban. All you had to do was just refresh and come back to the chat.

Optimus Prime is the spp-script so it wasn't anything bad. Just wait till the ban list gets full and that's all.

Saleens281
20th July 2007, 7:30 PM
I was banned yesterday night around 9pm pacific standard time. Reason for being baned was excesive caps. Now thats a litle to excesive isnt it? My nickname on the spp wifi was saleens281. I dont remember who kicked me out. I would like to be reinstated asap.

Shuko
20th July 2007, 8:32 PM
I was banned yesterday night around 9pm pacific standard time. Reason for being baned was excesive caps. Now thats a litle to excesive isnt it? My nickname on the spp wifi was saleens281. I dont remember who kicked me out. I would like to be reinstated asap.Lol. Using excessive caps is even mentioned in the rules at the bottom of the chat window, silly. xD It's obnoxious and annoying. Most of the OPs with scripts set it to kick on excessive caps automatically. Chances are you were kicked by a script and not an op in person. Regardless, you got what you deserved, just like the rest of us who make that mistake. ;) It only lasts five or ten minutes. Just wait out your kick and refresh the chat window and reconnect. It's not that hard. xD

And demanding that they reinstate you is a REALLY effective means to getting your way. xD Yup.

deoxys_attack_mode
21st July 2007, 12:32 AM
I posted a warning to a guy to not trade with a guy who steals shinies all in caps, and was booted within a second of hitting enter. I meant to elaborate, but didn't get the chance.

MewSkitty
21st July 2007, 1:03 AM
I posted a warning to a guy to not trade with a guy who steals shinies all in caps, and was booted within a second of hitting enter. I meant to elaborate, but didn't get the chance.

I am not a mod of the #SPP and #SPP-wifi channels, but I have enough experiance to know that if you get kicked the instant you break a "rule" then you was kicked by a script and not a real person. This would prevent you from trying to explain your actions, so the only way to get around this is to never break a rule run by a script.

NFreak
21st July 2007, 11:21 AM
Can't get logs, but I was going by NFreak in #SPP-WiFi just about 10 minutes ago. This is the only text I was able to save:

"You've been kicked out of #spp-wifi by AraleIsAGirl («««« lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad "

All I did was say I wanted a PBR battle. I said it a second time later because I wasn't sure if the first message went through because of the kick.

legendary master Jose
23rd July 2007, 9:01 PM
i just got kicked for unauthorised private msg someone on the normal chat told me to type

/msg MeR-DeR hi

well being the idiot i am i did it and imediatly i got kicked but now whenever i try to log onto the chat and WIFI chat i get these msgs

[14:53] Connecting...
[14:53] Logging in...
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** Found your hostname (cached)
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** Checking ident...
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** No ident response; username prefixed with ~
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** You are banned from DejaToons (unauthorized private message.)
[14:53] Error : Closing Link: WiFiGuest5612[68-112-222-137.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] (User has been banned from DejaToons (unauthorized private message.))
[14:53] Disconnected from irc.dejatoons.net
[14:53] Connecting...
[14:53] Logging in...
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** Found your hostname (cached)
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** Checking ident...
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** No ident response; username prefixed with ~
[14:53] -sebben.dejatoons.net- *** You are banned from DejaToons (unauthorized private message.)
[14:53] Error : Closing Link: WiFiGuest5628[68-112-222-137.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] (User has been banned from DejaToons (unauthorized private message.))
[14:53] Disconnected from irc.dejatoons.net

EDIT: nvm its letting me back on now

Erik Destler
24th July 2007, 5:42 AM
They just have the words 'Events' as a trigger on their Kick Scripts, so yeah. Blame the hype of Darkrai and Arceus. And maybe Shaymin too.

...
no it shouldn't be.

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddgbdnrz_22hprr4g

It's a complete list of my scripts for SPP/SPP-wifi ^O^

Though some other ops have a few more, but they could post..

So now you know what happens. ^O^

Fenix
24th July 2007, 5:51 AM
on *:text:*iarkrad*:#Spp-wifi: { if ($nick !isop $chan) { ban -u1200 $chan $nick 2 | kick $chan $nick lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad } }
on *:text:*nimyahs*:#Spp-wifi: { if ($nick !isop $chan) { ban -u1200 $chan $nick 2 | kick $chan $nick lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad } }
on *:text:*suecra*:#Spp-wifi: { if ($nick !isop $chan) { ban -u1200 $chan $nick 2 | kick $chan $nick lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad } }
on *:text:*arceoos*:#Spp-wifi: { if ($nick !isop $chan) { ban -u1200 $chan $nick 2 | kick $chan $nick lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad } }
on *:text:*nice hacker*:#Spp-wifi: { if ($nick !isop $chan) { ban -u2000 $chan $nick 2 | kick $chan $nick lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad } }

This scripts are <censored> hilarious, i couldn't help lolling IRL when i saw them :/
By the way, you forgot "R C US", i've sen this version pretty much.

Erik Destler
24th July 2007, 6:08 AM
Well, some of those are just what I see and then I add it automatically D:

That could help..
*adds*

Neal
24th July 2007, 6:11 AM
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddgbdnrz_22hprr4g

Wow, someone really doesn't know how to efficiently script. I guess that's good for the newbie's advantage, especially from all the lag given in the codes.

-Neal.

Samsonii
24th July 2007, 6:35 AM
My name was Loochena, I dont knwo who kicked me. i was in the wifi chat but when i was kicked it said there name and it did not give reasoning. I did not use caps or spam. or meention any of the hacked pokes....

VGGuru
25th July 2007, 2:33 PM
My name was, well, VGGuru. I got kicked, but I don't know who by, because I was trying to ask the admins to kick someone because they kept spamming alot and it seemed no one would kick him. I know I probably shoulda kept my mouth shut, but his name was darkrai and I tried to talk about him and, duh, got kicked.

Neal
25th July 2007, 2:40 PM
My name was, well, VGGuru. I got kicked, but I don't know who by, because I was trying to ask the admins to kick someone because they kept spamming alot and it seemed no one would kick him. I know I probably shoulda kept my mouth shut, but his name was darkrai and I tried to talk about him and, duh, got kicked.

Can't mention the word Darkrai. One of the flaws in SPP op scripts is banning of the usage of such legendaries, but then, someone could be using that as a nick, and others may call someone by their nick, and get banned for it. Sorry.

-Neal.

Kirby
25th July 2007, 8:47 PM
Can't mention the word Darkrai. One of the flaws in SPP op scripts is banning of the usage of such legendaries, but then, someone could be using that as a nick, and others may call someone by their nick, and get banned for it. Sorry.

-Neal.

It's not really a flaw considering the countless amount of times we've said not to say that name unless you want to be kicked for it.

Neal
26th July 2007, 12:22 AM
It's not really a flaw considering the countless amount of times we've said not to say that name unless you want to be kicked for it.

It is a flaw if nobody writes a script to ban people by their nick.

I.e.

* Arceus has joined #SPP-Wifi
* Operators sets mode: +b *Arceus*!*@*
* Arceus was kicked by Operator (Inappropriate nick.)

But since those scripts aren't around that I have seen, it's a flaw to not include them from the channel staff perspective... and a disadvantage to regular users.

But that's okay, regular users aren't alone on this. When some DarkraiGuest gets his nick called by a VOp, that VOp, too, gets banned, for saying his nick.

Sure, I can make scripts where if I type any of those words, mIRC protects you from saying it, and this will upper-up the mIRC users from the java applet users. More power for us!

-Neal.

chris17blue
26th July 2007, 5:01 PM
I was banned from #SPP-Wifi for the use of 3 "!!!" which is completly unfair.

It's been about 2 hours already...How long do I have to wait???

My nickname was Chris171.

Blatsman
26th July 2007, 5:20 PM
Yeah.... Logs....

*~Puru-Ryuu~*
26th July 2007, 6:06 PM
I asked if we could ask for Darkrai, because I coudn't log on to the forum due to lag. I asked and got kicked.
I also got kicked once for saying this
me: /me (purple code) is seeking shiy pokemon with beneficial natures.
and got kicked becuase they thought it was too vague.

pokeAjvmon
26th July 2007, 8:24 PM
I didn't even post anything and they banned me saying clones arent allowed on Wi-fi

Shuko
26th July 2007, 8:28 PM
I didn't even post anything and they banned me saying clones arent allowed on Wi-fithat means your IP was already registered as using the server. Did you have another chat window open at the same time?

Are you on AOL? They use the same IP addresses a lot (AOL is the devil, btw).

Blatsman
26th July 2007, 8:31 PM
"lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad"
Lol u talkin teh n00b talk taht iz n00b.

Blatsman
26th July 2007, 8:34 PM
I asked if we could ask for Darkrai, because I coudn't log on to the forum due to lag. I asked and got kicked.
I also got kicked once for saying this
me: /me (purple code) is seeking shiy pokemon with beneficial natures.
and got kicked becuase they thought it was too vague.

"shiy" might be the same as "Shaymin" or "Sheimi" to them l guess....

Dispiacere
29th July 2007, 1:56 AM
I got banned by typing this in the wifi chat

"looking for a battle, no sleep/freeze clauses, legendaries ok(except arceus and deoxys)"

Kaiserin
29th July 2007, 5:36 AM
I got banned by typing this in the wifi chat

"looking for a battle, no sleep/freeze clauses, legendaries ok(except arceus and deoxys)"

Arceus.

@ Blatsman: It'd be nice if you stopped trolling, please.

Stone_Cutter
29th July 2007, 4:34 PM
Ok, so today i saw someone get banned for repeating & Leona bans him and the reaon for ban in the brackets is "f*ck off" (w/o the aterisk). It says under "rules" of the chat that "Don't swear, this chat is for all ages." An OP cursing is like...an OP asking for arceus/darkrai/shaymin. So i PM Leona:

[10:33] <WiFiGuest2819> We don't say the f word in here, this chat is for all ages
[10:34] <Leona|Gone> **** OFF

And then she bans me!!
So i get p/o'ed at her & cuss at her. Then she starts flooding the private chat for some reason... and later she bans me from the server. I was about to copy the whole chat but she banned me from the server (apparently ends all public/private chats) befor i could. Now i'm permanently banned from wifi-chat & regular chat. And btw, as for how Leona became an op, she cybered w/ the head op; she told me so about a month ago. And that's another thing: why would you cyber for ops and then TELL someone you cybered for ops?? That's just plain stupid. If you're gonna cyber for ops, at least keep it to yourself. Bottom line: Not only is Leona unfair & corrupt, she is also just plain stupid.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against the chat or its rules, just that horrid excuse for an OP: Leona
Anyways, all i'm asking for is some justice like unbanning me from the server or depriving Leona of the OP status.

*~Puru-Ryuu~*
29th July 2007, 4:42 PM
"shiy" might be the same as "Shaymin" or "Sheimi" to them l guess....

I wrote Shiny

Kaiserin
29th July 2007, 4:43 PM
Ok, so today i saw someone get banned for repeating & Leona bans him and the reaon for ban in the brackets is "f*ck off" (w/o the aterisk). It says under "rules" of the chat that "Don't swear, this chat is for all ages." An OP cursing is like...an OP asking for arceus/darkrai/shaymin. So i PM Leona:

[10:33] <WiFiGuest2819> We don't say the f word in here, this chat is for all ages
[10:34] <Leona|Gone> **** OFF

And then she bans me!!
So i get p/o'ed at her & cuss at her. Then she starts flooding the private chat for some reason... and later she bans me from the server. I was about to copy the whole chat but she banned me from the server (apparently ends all public/private chats) befor i could. Now i'm permanently banned from wifi-chat & regular chat. And btw, as for how Leona became an op, she cybered w/ the head op; she told me so about a month ago. And that's another thing: why would you cyber for ops and then TELL someone you cybered for ops?? That's just plain stupid. If you're gonna cyber for ops, at least keep it to yourself. Bottom line: Not only is Leona unfair & corrupt, she is also just plain stupid.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against the chat or its rules, just that horrid excuse for an OP: Leona
Anyways, all i'm asking for is some justice like unbanning me from the server or depriving Leona of the OP status.

...Wow, you're dense.

She was probably joking when she said she cybered with Joe. Nor is she an IRCop, so she can't "ban you from the server".

You really think without logs we're going to remove Leona's op? She's harsh, yes, but believe me, the swears are not going to jump out of the screen and bite you. I promise you this.

Still, telling an op not to swear is like telling your boss at work not to swear: you don't do it, because you'll get *****ed at/punished. And the way you said it was condescending, so I don't blame her for banning you. And the way you REACTED was even more immature, so I don't blame her for banning you from BOTH chats either.

Oh yeah, call her stupid; that's really going to endear yourself to us and get you one step closer to being unbanned. <3

In short: without logs AND with stupid excuses, you have no case.

Next, please.

Stone_Cutter
29th July 2007, 4:54 PM
Rule #1 is: Don't swear, this chat is for all ages. How are you gonna be an OP & break Rule #1?!?!

Kaiserin
29th July 2007, 4:57 PM
Rule #1 is: Don't swear, this chat is for all ages. How are you gonna be an OP & break Rule #1?!?!

Dear, ops are generally allowed to swear in the chat. It's censored automatically anyway, so.

You still have no case. :|

Stone_Cutter
29th July 2007, 5:01 PM
Um actually it wasn't censored. The "f*ck off" was in brackets as part of the reason for banning the dude. Read the whole post plz...^^ and don't address me as "dear," that's a bit condescending even for you...

Stone_Cutter
29th July 2007, 5:06 PM
And i don't want a...case... Can you just unban me from the server?

Kaiserin
29th July 2007, 5:10 PM
Um actually it wasn't censored. The "f*ck off" was in brackets as part of the reason for banning the dude. Read the whole post plz...^^ and don't address me as "dear," that's a bit condescending even for you...

So? Just because it's not censored doesn't mean it's going to reach out of the screen, grab you by the neck, and choke you to death.

You still shouldn't have told her what to do in the first place, though.

..."Even for me"? What's that supposed to mean?

Anyway, no, you can wait to be unbanned like everyone else.

And if YOU would read MY post, I already told you you're not banned from the SERVER, just the CHANNELS.

PS: Don't double post.

Stone_Cutter
29th July 2007, 5:17 PM
I didn't say it's gonna "reach out of the screen, grab me by the neck, and choke me to death."... Rule #1 is "No Cursing," not "No type of cursing that will reach out of screen, grab you by the neck, and choke you to death." Cursing is... cursing. And are you sure i'm only banned from the channels? B/c this is what it says when i try to go in:

[12:06] Connecting...
[12:06] Logging in...
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Found your hostname (cached)
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Checking ident...
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** No ident response; username prefixed with ~
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** You are banned from DejaToons (Intelligence level is insufficient to remain on IRC. Threat removed.)
[12:06] Error : Closing Link: SPPGuest1925[ip68-100-2-224.dc.dc.cox.net] (User has been banned from DejaToons (Intelligence level is insufficient to remain on IRC. Threat removed.))
[12:06] Disconnected from irc.dejatoons.net

and sorry about double-posting.

Nny
29th July 2007, 6:07 PM
I didn't say it's gonna "reach out of the screen, grab me by the neck, and choke me to death."... Rule #1 is "No Cursing," not "No type of cursing that will reach out of screen, grab you by the neck, and choke you to death." Cursing is... cursing. And are you sure i'm only banned from the channels? B/c this is what it says when i try to go in:

[12:06] Connecting...
[12:06] Logging in...
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Found your hostname (cached)
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Checking ident...
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** No ident response; username prefixed with ~
[12:06] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** You are banned from DejaToons (Intelligence level is insufficient to remain on IRC. Threat removed.)
[12:06] Error : Closing Link: SPPGuest1925[ip68-100-2-224.dc.dc.cox.net] (User has been banned from DejaToons (Intelligence level is insufficient to remain on IRC. Threat removed.))
[12:06] Disconnected from irc.dejatoons.net

and sorry about double-posting.
Chances are, she went to the help channel and probably told on you. You were then probably glinned for spam and being annoying.


Ok, so today i saw someone get banned for repeating & Leona bans him and the reaon for ban in the brackets is "f*ck off" (w/o the aterisk). It says under "rules" of the chat that "Don't swear, this chat is for all ages." An OP cursing is like...an OP asking for arceus/darkrai/shaymin. So i PM Leona:

Don't tell the ops what to do.

Stone_Cutter
29th July 2007, 6:12 PM
So... am i permanently banned/banned from the server or what? what is the status of my ban?

Nny
29th July 2007, 6:18 PM
So... am i permanently banned/banned from the server or what? what is the status of my ban?
Yes, it is a permanent ban from the server. You can no longer go to #SPP or #SPP-WiFi or ANY channel.
Status, banned.

Don't ask for unban, none of us will ask an IRCop to get rid of it.

Stone_Cutter
30th July 2007, 4:58 PM
So, what r my options now? How can i get un-banned from the server?

Kirby
31st July 2007, 8:31 AM
So, what r my options now? How can i get un-banned from the server?

You can quit posting here for a start, since NONE of us can help you, seeing as none of us are ircops!

Also, if you had bothered to read my first post, you'd notice that I linked to the server's forums, so go ask there.

Ho-oh Master
31st July 2007, 1:59 PM
So, what r my options now? How can i get un-banned from the server?

Look for other chatrooms? There is more to the Internet than SPP Chat.

Blatsman
31st July 2007, 5:24 PM
I didn't say it's gonna "reach out of the screen, grab me by the neck, and choke me to death."... Rule #1 is "No Cursing," not "No type of cursing that will reach out of screen, grab you by the neck, and choke you to death." Cursing is... cursing. And are you sure i'm only banned from the channels?


Yes. If you may not curse because the chat is for little children too, then ops should really not curse.... The fact that you have auth on serebii doesn't give you the right to curse at little children or something....

Shuko
31st July 2007, 6:00 PM
Yes. If you may not curse because the chat is for little children too, then ops should really not curse.... The fact that you have auth on serebii doesn't give you the right to curse at little children or something....
You strike me as a very argumentative, anti-establishment kind of person. xD All the posts I see in here by you are you griping about the OPs and how they abuse their powers.

To be perfectly honest, as a user of the chats, I couldn't give a rat's behind what kinds of powers they abuse, as long as it keeps the idiots out of the chatrooms. Being an OP is tough. There should be an allowance for a little stress relieving potty-mouthing for high-stress jobs, lol. I would never make it as one, because I can't really handle stress well, and I'd probably just ban everyone in the chatroom and be done with it. xD

No the ops aren't superhuman. They make mistakes just like the rest of us. But as people in positions of responsibility, they face more difficulties than normal users. The situation would be different if they were getting paid to do it, but they're doing this on their own time, with nothing to gain but the appreciation of people who don't like to see the chat go to hell. It can be pretty disillusioning to be in that kind of situation. :/ I've run away from mod positions on forums for that very reason. I have nothing but respect for the people who stick it out just because it's important.

Until you learn how to put yourself in someone else's shoes, you have no right to hand out orders. That's the bottom line.

Blatsman
31st July 2007, 6:26 PM
Being an op is though, but stopping with cursing is not so though.

Shuko
31st July 2007, 7:55 PM
Being an op is though, but stopping with cursing is not so though.This makes absolutely no sense to me. :( Did you delete part of the message that this is referring to?

Stone_Cutter
31st July 2007, 8:44 PM
I was trying to find another d/p wifi chat room today & came across the PPN (pokemon palace network) chatroom, which is also powered by dejatoons, & found out i can't get in there either. Just because i insulted ONE op from the chatroom on this site means i can't go to ANY chat that's powered by the same company that operates the chatroom on this site. I mean seriously, what the hell?? Do i have to change my computer's IP address in order to have access to the chat again?

"So? Just because it's not censored doesn't mean it's going to reach out of the screen, grab you by the neck, and choke you to death." - Asuka

Asuka, tell that to Leona, since she banned me from the server for it.

P.S. How do you quote?

Skiks
31st July 2007, 9:35 PM
Being an op is tough, but stopping with cursing is not so tough.
Fix'd
Also Please tell me if cursing somehow makes your chatting experience difficult. I am sure OPs don't curse like there no tomorrow either. You make it sound like we are the bad guys being mean to a "bunch of children" who surely curse at us more then we do at them.

Ho-oh Master
31st July 2007, 9:56 PM
You strike me as a very argumentative, anti-establishment kind of person. xD All the posts I see in here by you are you griping about the OPs and how they abuse their powers.

To be perfectly honest, as a user of the chats, I couldn't give a rat's behind what kinds of powers they abuse, as long as it keeps the idiots out of the chatrooms. Being an OP is tough. There should be an allowance for a little stress relieving potty-mouthing for high-stress jobs, lol. I would never make it as one, because I can't really handle stress well, and I'd probably just ban everyone in the chatroom and be done with it. xD

No the ops aren't superhuman. They make mistakes just like the rest of us. But as people in positions of responsibility, they face more difficulties than normal users. The situation would be different if they were getting paid to do it, but they're doing this on their own time, with nothing to gain but the appreciation of people who don't like to see the chat go to hell. It can be pretty disillusioning to be in that kind of situation. :/ I've run away from mod positions on forums for that very reason. I have nothing but respect for the people who stick it out just because it's important.

Until you learn how to put yourself in someone else's shoes, you have no right to hand out orders. That's the bottom line.

Quote for the Truth!

I never realized how hard and stressful it is to be a mod/op, Sitting back and watching the chat and seeing all the people they have PM them and whine about why they were banned makes me never to want to be an op. If I was an Op I would just ban everyone like Shuko :p

Stone_Cutter theres no need to post here. Your banned from Dejatoons. You must go to there site and complain there (Like that will get you unbanned).

Kirby
31st July 2007, 10:55 PM
I was trying to find another d/p wifi chat room today & came across the PPN (pokemon palace network) chatroom, which is also powered by dejatoons, & found out i can't get in there either. Just because i insulted ONE op from the chatroom on this site means i can't go to ANY chat that's powered by the same company that operates the chatroom on this site. I mean seriously, what the hell?? Do i have to change my computer's IP address in order to have access to the chat again?

"So? Just because it's not censored doesn't mean it's going to reach out of the screen, grab you by the neck, and choke you to death." - Asuka

Asuka, tell that to Leona, since she banned me from the server for it.

P.S. How do you quote?

LEONA CANNOT BAN YOU FROM THE SERVER! SHE IS NOT AN IRCOP!

Go to the first post in this topic, you will find a link to the dejatoons forum. POST YOUR PROBLEM THERE! Anymore posts here complaining about your server ban will result in you getting infractions.

Ho-oh Master
31st July 2007, 11:00 PM
So if none of the Op's are IRCop O.o Then I guess its some random Guest keeping an eye out or somthing?

Is an IRCop a mIRcCop? I'm not sure what that is.

Kirby
31st July 2007, 11:05 PM
So if none of the Op's are IRCop O.o Then I guess its some random Guest keeping an eye out or somthing?

Is an IRCop a mIRcCop? I'm not sure what that is.

IRC OPs are server operators, they can ban you from the whole server.

Like me, I am not an IRCop, I am an SPP op, I can only ban you from the SPP chatroom. IRCops can ban you from any chatroom, and the whole server itself.

Yea.

Leona is only an SPP and SPP-wifi op, so she can't ban someone from the server. She can ask them to ban someone, as can anyone, but you need sufficient evidence and logs in order to get them to remove someone from the server.

So obviously, if the person above has been banned from the server, whoever turned them in, be it Leona or someone else, had sufficient logs/evidence to get them to ban them.

And hey, the less idiots on dejatoons, the better :D

Ho-oh Master
1st August 2007, 1:00 PM
IRC OPs are server operators, they can ban you from the whole server.

Like me, I am not an IRCop, I am an SPP op, I can only ban you from the SPP chatroom. IRCops can ban you from any chatroom, and the whole server itself.

Yea.

Leona is only an SPP and SPP-wifi op, so she can't ban someone from the server. She can ask them to ban someone, as can anyone, but you need sufficient evidence and logs in order to get them to remove someone from the server.

So obviously, if the person above has been banned from the server, whoever turned them in, be it Leona or someone else, had sufficient logs/evidence to get them to ban them.

And hey, the less idiots on dejatoons, the better :D

What can the IRCop's ban somone for? How many active channels are there anyways?

Kirby
1st August 2007, 1:25 PM
What can the IRCop's ban somone for? How many active channels are there anyways?

Spamming, trolling, mass cloning, evading bans with proxies, etc.

Basically, anything that can get you into trouble, they can and will gline you off of the server.

Blatsman
1st August 2007, 5:47 PM
You strike me as a very argumentative, anti-establishment kind of person. xD All the posts I see in here by you are you griping about the OPs and how they abuse their powers.

To be perfectly honest, as a user of the chats, I couldn't give a rat's behind what kinds of powers they abuse, as long as it keeps the idiots out of the chatrooms. Being an OP is tough. There should be an allowance for a little stress relieving potty-mouthing for high-stress jobs, lol. I would never make it as one, because I can't really handle stress well, and I'd probably just ban everyone in the chatroom and be done with it. xD

No the ops aren't superhuman. They make mistakes just like the rest of us. But as people in positions of responsibility, they face more difficulties than normal users. The situation would be different if they were getting paid to do it, but they're doing this on their own time, with nothing to gain but the appreciation of people who don't like to see the chat go to hell. It can be pretty disillusioning to be in that kind of situation. :/ I've run away from mod positions on forums for that very reason. I have nothing but respect for the people who stick it out just because it's important.

Until you learn how to put yourself in someone else's shoes, you have no right to hand out orders. That's the bottom line.

Sorry, but when a site that is made for fun gives you so much stress, l believe that you should quit and find another hobby that is relaxing.

Ho-oh Master
1st August 2007, 5:50 PM
Sorry, but when a site that is made for fun gives you so much stress, l believe that you should quit and find another hobby that is relaxing.

...Running anything is stressful, if all of the mods left this site would eventully get shut down.

Vampire Slayer
1st August 2007, 5:54 PM
My name on WiFi Chat is Vampire. I got banned for saying that I was offerring B-Button Pokemon. The Pokemon were level 100 Magikarp, level 100 Feebas, and Level 100 Cherubi. These Pokemon were inspired from an episode of Pokemon D/P. After I said that I was banned for supposedly "advertising." I was not advertising at all! I was simply offering some Pokemon like everyone else. So what's the deal?

Nny
1st August 2007, 6:51 PM
So if none of the Op's are IRCop O.o Then I guess its some random Guest keeping an eye out or somthing?

Is an IRCop a mIRcCop? I'm not sure what that is.
IRCops are the ones in charge of the entire server. They can do a lot of things depending on what they are allowed to do. D:

Every server has different IRCops and Admins that can ban people in many different ways.
-Kill (not really a ban but it disconnects you from the server)
-Gline
-Kline
-Zline

They can make you join/part any chat possible and change your host to something completely different.
They also have the power to
-Akick anybody from a chat
-Give themselves or anybody voice, halfop, op, and even owner.
-Send notices to everybody on the entire server (Global)
-Destroy any chat they want
-See everybody who Connects or Disconnects

They can do a lot more interesting things, I only know a few because I used to be one for a small server. It was pretty neat doing all that crap.

Keitaro-kun
1st August 2007, 8:04 PM
Yep, I was banned from rizon for a whole week once, but I deserved it, so it's okay~

But one thing I always get banned for is for telling Javatards to go to #SPP-WiFi, I know it's an auto kick for using #s to advertise channels, but I was wondering if it's possible to alter Asuka's script to allow to say that channel because I usually get Kb'ed every day [Yeah, I know I should PM, but then they usually start bothering me more]

Erik Destler
2nd August 2007, 7:11 AM
Not to mention her bloody flood scripts..>>

PLANES CURE TOWERS
2nd August 2007, 10:46 PM
My name on WiFi Chat is Vampire. I got banned for saying that I was offerring B-Button Pokemon. The Pokemon were level 100 Magikarp, level 100 Feebas, and Level 100 Cherubi. These Pokemon were inspired from an episode of Pokemon D/P. After I said that I was banned for supposedly "advertising." I was not advertising at all! I was simply offering some Pokemon like everyone else. So what's the deal?
You were putting up the Pokemon you had to trade in such a ridiculous manner that pretty much nobody but you would've understood it. It was therefore misinterpretated and as such, you were banned.

QQ.

Alakazam
3rd August 2007, 3:00 PM
My chat name is espy. I just got kicked for asking for a Palcity Lucario in a Cherish ball. Mario kicked me out for "trying to evade the scripts!" I was really just asking for a Palcity Lucario in a Cherish ball.

Shuko
3rd August 2007, 3:23 PM
Hrm... maybe cherish has been set as one of the kick terms. It's a well-known fact that the Japanese darkrai is given out in a cherish ball.

What's a Palcity Lucario?

Alakazam
3rd August 2007, 3:26 PM
It knows some cool moves and it is in a cherish ball. I don't know where it comes from, though.

Ho-oh Master
3rd August 2007, 6:28 PM
What is Palcity? Maybe its just some hack...

Shuam
3rd August 2007, 8:28 PM
Palcity lucario was an event Lucario
http://pokemongamer.net/home.shtml
The fourth post down gives a little info.
They also gave out Mew, and Manaphy.

Ho-oh Master
4th August 2007, 12:15 AM
You've been kicked out of #SPP by Erik_Destler (... (1257))

I didn't do anything wrong....*coughs*

Akboy
5th August 2007, 6:23 AM
I just got kicked by OptimusPrime for spamming, yet I wasn't spamming.

I was just looking for one TM, Trick Room, so I changed my name to needTrickRoom and posted this: <----- Look at me name. PM me. Then I got booted a second later.

I hadn't posted in the chat room for quite a few minutes. It was only one post. It was a short post. I've seen other people do similar things with their name and not get banned. Is that considered spam? Is there anyway I can get back on?

Nny
5th August 2007, 6:55 AM
I just got kicked by OptimusPrime for spamming, yet I wasn't spamming.

I was just looking for one TM, Trick Room, so I changed my name to needTrickRoom and posted this: <----- Look at me name. PM me. Then I got booted a second later.

I hadn't posted in the chat room for quite a few minutes. It was only one post. It was a short post. I've seen other people do similar things with their name and not get banned. Is that considered spam? Is there anyway I can get back on?
In the chatroom, '<--' is considered spam. If you want something, ask for it right. "Hello, I need <this and this>."

Akboy
5th August 2007, 6:57 AM
In the chatroom, '<--' is considered spam. If you want something, ask for it right. "Hello, I need <this and this>."

Well I had never heard that before. In fact, I've seen other people use it and not get banned. Is it a perm ban, or can I get back on in a day or something?

Kaiserin
5th August 2007, 7:06 PM
In fact, I've seen other people use it and not get banned.

Don't even START with that excuse. The more I hear that, the more I hate it.

Ops can't be around 24/7, watching for things that aren't triggered by the script. I'm sorry that we're not robots that are awake every waking second and trained to spot every kickable thing visible in the chat room, but we're human too and we have lives and we need to eat and sleep just like the rest of you.

So don't even bother saying "oh but other people do it and they don't get kicked!" because that's bullsh*t.

MegaTank
8th August 2007, 12:38 AM
So I'm on SPP-Wifi, under the same name I use here (MegaTank) at Approx 00:25. I make a post Asking if anyone is trading a Female Adamant/Jolly Elekid or Evo. Then I get banned (I think it was Optimus or someone similar) for Channel advertising. Tell me where that makes any sense D:

Nny
8th August 2007, 12:59 AM
So I'm on SPP-Wifi, under the same name I use here (MegaTank) at Approx 00:25. I make a post Asking if anyone is trading a Female Adamant/Jolly Elekid or Evo. Then I get banned (I think it was Optimus or someone similar) for Channel advertising. Tell me where that makes any sense D:

If you use something like # then it will kick you thinking you are advertising. Just don't use it and the ban list is cleared.

Blatsman
8th August 2007, 11:52 AM
Don't even START with that excuse. The more I hear that, the more I hate it.

Ops can't be around 24/7, watching for things that aren't triggered by the script. I'm sorry that we're not robots that are awake every waking second and trained to spot every kickable thing visible in the chat room, but we're human too and we have lives and we need to eat and sleep just like the rest of you.

So don't even bother saying "oh but other people do it and they don't get kicked!" because that's bullsh*t.

l think that he means that because he saw other people using it and not get banned he thought that it was good. And when the rules doesn't say that <-- may not be used and can result in a kick/ban, l can understand his confusion, how could he know it? The only thing that he saw and was others using it without getting kicked / banned.


You make it sound like we are the bad guys being mean to a "bunch of children" who surely curse at us more then we do at them.

You say that because little children curse at you you may curse back???? Please, do not imitate little children, they are not good as examples. Do l really need to tell why?

Ho-oh Master
8th August 2007, 12:46 PM
l think that he means that because he saw other people using it and not get banned he thought that it was good. And when the rules doesn't say that <-- may not be used and can result in a kick/ban, l can understand his confusion, how could he know it? The only thing that he saw and was others using it without getting kicked / banned.



You say that because little children curse at you you may curse back???? Please, do not imitate little children, they are not good as examples. Do l really need to tell why?

O.o Try talking doing that like 20 times a day, having a random person coming up to you and asking why they were banned when it was most likely by a script. So the Op needs to see who this person is, why they were banned and explain to them why they were banned.

Its very stressful to do everyday, and no they don't have to do it but if they don't then the chats will get closed down from spam and trolls.

PLANES CURE TOWERS
8th August 2007, 1:42 PM
l think that he means that because he saw other people using it and not get banned he thought that it was good. And when the rules doesn't say that <-- may not be used and can result in a kick/ban, l can understand his confusion, how could he know it? The only thing that he saw and was others using it without getting kicked / banned.
That doesn't change the fact it's not a valid excuse.

You say that because little children curse at you you may curse back???? Please, do not imitate little children, they are not good as examples. Do l really need to tell why?
Please stop posting.

Blatsman
8th August 2007, 2:00 PM
That doesn't change the fact it's not a valid excuse.


Why not? It was not his fault. How could he know he may not do that? It stands nowhere in the rules and other people used it without getting kicked so he could simply NOT know it!

Ah, l see what you mean. He has no psychic powers to read your minds because if readed your minds he would have known that typing <-- is not allowed. You are right, it is his own fault for not having psychic powers!

PLANES CURE TOWERS
8th August 2007, 2:36 PM
Why not? It was not his fault. How could he know he may not do that? It stands nowhere in the rules and other people used it without getting kicked so he could simply NOT know it!

Ah, l see what you mean. He has no psychic powers to read your minds because if readed your minds he would have known that typing <-- is not allowed. You are right, it is his own fault for not having psychic powers!
It's not a valid excuse because of the fact nine times out of ten these things are in the rules, and on the off-chance that they aren't in the rules, it's usually down to common sense that you shouldn't have done the thing that got you kicked.

:\

Blatsman
8th August 2007, 3:18 PM
It's not a valid excuse because of the fact nine times out of ten these things are in the rules, and on the off-chance that they aren't in the rules, it's usually down to common sense that you shouldn't have done the thing that got you kicked.

:\

Nine of ten it is in the rules, that can be true. But this time, it was not in the rules, l checked it! And also, l don't think that it is common sence that this <-- is not allowed, since it is not annoying or offending or something....

But it is just a kick. Don't understand me wrong, l do believe that 99 out of the 100 kicks are good kicks and are kicks that help to get noobs and spammers out of the chat. A_A

Erik Destler
8th August 2007, 3:55 PM
So I'm on SPP-Wifi, under the same name I use here (MegaTank) at Approx 00:25. I make a post Asking if anyone is trading a Female Adamant/Jolly Elekid or Evo. Then I get banned (I think it was Optimus or someone similar) for Channel advertising. Tell me where that makes any sense D:

soz mate, you got hit by the /j script.
We were having massive problems with people saying

"oh hay type /j pokeymonztradez to go to a cool trade chat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

And it was quite quite annoying, assuredly.

So, what you could do next time is go to SPP and tell an op! :D

bazzer
9th August 2007, 7:06 AM
i got banned for supposingly evading a ban but i don't even remember evading anything. alls i was doing was trying to trade away my shiny mew. my registered nick and nick used all the time is bazzer

Torkoal Greg
9th August 2007, 7:15 AM
I really, really like the attempt this thread is making, but I really find it pointless. If you people would read the first post of the thread- you would find out you need to POST LOGS. You can't prove yourself right unless you offer proof cause the Ops have logs and we'll just prove you wrong. So stop wasting your time posting a whole story on how you were banned and did not do anything unless you post the stupid logs.

Also, script kicks sometimes go awry. Yesterday my script kicked someone because they copied and pasted a hostmask of another member, and because of the .net in the hostmask they were kicked. So in that case, it is an unfair kick (while it can't have been helped), but supplying a log of the kick can justify to you as the member an apology.

SO START POSTING THE FREAKING LOGS.

bazzer
9th August 2007, 7:19 AM
forget it then. because i didn't think of copying the log (when i didn't even think a topic like this existed) i must be in the wrong. leave me banned am not bothered i only go on there when am bored and want to trade pokemon anyway

Blatsman
9th August 2007, 10:01 AM
forget it then. because i didn't think of copying the log (when i didn't even think a topic like this existed) i must be in the wrong. leave me banned am not bothered i only go on there when am bored and want to trade pokemon anyway

Well, what were you thinking anyway? No loogs no proof, maybe it is not your fault, but what can they do?

Every moron can first completely spam the chat and then just return and say "Hay l have no log but l just forgot so may come back please?" And then they should say yes? Offcourse not! Because when they do that banning will be very pointless because every noob will just "Forgot" the logs and return!

Or is it the OP's fault? l mean, hay, it is theyre fault that they cannot read your mind with their psychic powers for proof! xD

Erik Destler
9th August 2007, 6:17 PM
attention ppls:
you cannot complain about being kicked by the scripts and not know what you said

as I have finally updated my kick messages.

it took FOREVER ;~;

and here they are

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddgbdnrz_22hprr4g

~

haiduc
13th August 2007, 10:07 AM
i was in wifi chatroom and someone asked if the darkrai even has happened and i replied yes the darkrai event has happened and then boom it said i cannot join the channel and had this next to it (+b), i was using the name haiduc... will i be able to get back on? the darkrai even has happened so yeah can i get some help please, sorry for the trouble

haiduc
13th August 2007, 10:10 AM
nevermind im back on, thanks

Blatsman
13th August 2007, 12:40 PM
When you get kicked you will only not being able to go back for a while.
So your kick automaticly disapears after a while.

Shuko
13th August 2007, 2:55 PM
attention ppls:
you cannot complain about being kicked by the scripts and not know what you said

as I have finally updated my kick messages.

it took FOREVER ;~;

and here they are

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddgbdnrz_22hprr4g

~Lol. I had no idea we weren't allowed to mention Spacial Rend or Roar of Time. xD I'm glad I never used the chat to ask about them. :p

I have a question about the logs. Say we're a Java user, whether by choice or not (in case it comes up, I have no choice but to use the java chat). The Java version doesn't support the whole idea of logs. If we were able to anticipate when we get kicked, we could always select all and copy the text in the chat. But if we could do that, it'd mean we knew we were getting kicked for what we did, which would eliminate the need to ask why we got banned unfairly, right? xD

My point is that unless you select the text and save it BEFORE you're kicked from the Java chat, you have no way of saving a log of the conversation. You get sent to a different chat window, with the kick message and a bunch of message snippets that describe your hostmask and connection, and other stuff I don't quite remember, lol. But you no longer have access to the original chat window.

What would people in this situation do?

As for Blatsman, I wonder how necessary it is to remind him that channel OPs can kick a user for any reason at any time, and they don't HAVE to provide a reason to that user. It's done as a courtesy. There are too many users to give each one preferential treatment. :/ Mistakes will happen, and people will be kicked unfairly. At least there's being some effort to rectify this small percentage (this thread, for example). Coming in here and arguing with everyone about everything kind of makes no sense to me...

Keitaro-kun
14th August 2007, 10:30 PM
<-- may not be used and can result in a kick/ban


Phooey, exactly when did this become a rule?~

I get kicked everytime Erik_Destler joins because he has a <-- in his wb quote XD



[16:17] >>> Erik_Destler has joined #SPP-WiFi
[16:17] <@SerebiiBot> [Erik_Destler] Save us from the wicked! Shield us so we won't be hexed! Give us warning; where will she strike next?
[16:17] * SerebiiBot sets mode: +o Erik_Destler
[16:17] <Keitaro-kun> *WB(Erik_Destler)WB* - <@Josh> -22:36:08- (%Erik_Destler) there's hundreds of sites on the internet <-- and your mom is on 99% of them
[16:17] * Mario sets mode: +b *!*@I'mnotpostingmyIPyouidiot
[16:17] * You were kicked by Jibacoil («««« advertising omg!!!!!!!!!!!! Kick Number 36256533431909 »»»»)

XD

Even though I kind of deserve it since wb scripts aren't allowed


[16:17] <@SerebiiBot> [Erik_Destler] Save us from the wicked! Shield us so we won't be hexed! Give us warning; where will she strike next?

Aren't allowed...?

Erik Destler
15th August 2007, 7:12 AM
but that's SerebiiBot and it does that for all ops. :\

And it kicks you for saying site, cause ppl were saying

"join my site!! pm me for details!!!"

Again, check the rules posted by Knife...

darkpkmn fan1
15th August 2007, 1:30 PM
Captain Chris Kicked me cos my nickname was Captain_Dan

Mello
16th August 2007, 7:22 AM
Well, even I know that every ship has only one captain, and the positions already taken ^o^. Come back with a different nick and I'm sure it'll be fine. No hard feelings.

Torkoal Greg
17th August 2007, 6:30 AM
Captain Chris Kicked me cos my nickname was Captain_Dan

I was there, and I believe (while SPP will not log for me, I have no clue why, though) that you were asked to change your name. You obviously didn't.

I know when I ask a member to change their name, if they don't within a minute I ban and kick them, for not following a request an OP asked them too.

You have to realize Captain_Chris is a unique nick to HIMSELF, not to others. Since he had a problem with your nick, and you didn't change it, you were kicked.

Now get over it.

Kirby
17th August 2007, 7:07 AM
I was there, and I believe (while SPP will not log for me, I have no clue why, though) that you were asked to change your name. You obviously didn't.

I know when I ask a member to change their name, if they don't within a minute I ban and kick them, for not following a request an OP asked them too.

You have to realize Captain_Chris is a unique nick to HIMSELF, not to others. Since he had a problem with your nick, and you didn't change it, you were kicked.

Now get over it.

I've seen several people come in with the name Captain_*insert name*, and they've not been kicked.

In fact, there were plenty of Captain's before Chris changed his name to that, so in a sense it really is an absolutely retarded reason to kick someone for having Captain in their name.

If it happens again, PM me either on the forums or chat (chat name is usually Kirby or Nem or Aipom), and I'll unban you.

Syaoran Vee
20th August 2007, 11:50 PM
Ok, I just got kicked and I can't get back on, I just get this message:

[SecureServ]
[18.38] #SPP-Wifi cannot join channel (+b)

What happen was a person named rocho on there said he wanted some pokemon and then said he wanted a mew level 9 or under.

I then I type like this kind of message:

"Aren't level 9 mew and under hacked?"

Literally as soon as I pressed enter I was kicked by a person named mario and it said (lol hax).

Im a java user so I can't get a log.

EDIT: I can get on now

Kirby
21st August 2007, 12:54 AM
Ok, I just got kicked and I can't get back on, I just get this message:

[SecureServ]
[18.38] #SPP-Wifi cannot join channel (+b)

What happen was a person named rocho on there said he wanted some pokemon and then said he wanted a mew level 9 or under.

I then I type like this kind of message:

"Aren't level 9 mew and under hacked?"

Literally as soon as I pressed enter I was kicked by a person named mario and it said (lol hax).

Im a java user so I can't get a log.

EDIT: I can get on now

As much as I hate those kick scripts that kick for stupid words (flute, hack, etc), that's what happened. I'm going to assume hack/hacked is on the list of no-no words, which will get you kicked.

It would be nice if you mods in SPP-Wifi would take time to gather up ALL of the scripts you use and post which words will get you kicked so people can have a warning of what words (as stupid as they may be) not to say in there.

I know Erik already did it, but the rest of you, get off your lazy a*ses and do it :P

And next time someone is asking for a hacked pokemon, just ignore them, don't say something like "omg that is hacked no don't ask for it..."

Because that in itself is minimodding AND will get you kicked and not them ;/ So just leave them if they're being stupid.

Ryuusei
21st August 2007, 9:05 AM
From what I know, some of us don't use scripts cause we actually bother being active in the channel instead of relying on our scripts all the time, D:

Anyway, I do manual time kickbans so yeah, your ban lasts from one minute to forever depending on the situation and my mood (well, sometimes).

Erik Destler
21st August 2007, 2:11 PM
From what I know, some of us don't use scripts cause we actually bother being active in the channel instead of relying on our scripts all the time, D:

Anyway, I do manual time kickbans so yeah, your ban lasts from one minute to forever depending on the situation and my mood (well, sometimes).

who are you again.
I'm not kidding, I don't remember you. :[

anyways, Mario has that on trigger, however I clearly haven't given him the update to my scripts, which took a long time.

However, I never added that, but it's somewhat useful, I have to say. :[

MinunTheFighter34
21st August 2007, 6:18 PM
I've been banned for no reason, again!I was in the Wi-Fi chat and offering Starters when suddenly some mod named "Erik" kicked me out saying "Sto ptrying to make us come to your stupid chats"!

I mean seriously ,what the hell?

Kirby
21st August 2007, 6:23 PM
I've been banned for no reason, again!I was in the Wi-Fi chat and offering Starters when suddenly some mod named "Erik" kicked me out saying "Sto ptrying to make us come to your stupid chats"!

I mean seriously ,what the hell?

There is a reason we ask for logs. Chances are you put in the # sign somewhere, which is considered a form of advertising on IRC.

BigKatz45
21st August 2007, 8:35 PM
Is this where i go to plead my case abotu being banned?

BigKatz45
21st August 2007, 8:39 PM
Look my daughter leaned on the space bar after i got done and i got banned. No warning just a ban. I am not a little kid i am 33 with no previous "spamming" as it said. She just leaned on the space bar. A little warning or something might be nice seeing how there are people on there posting huge things over and over every day i go in.

Nny
21st August 2007, 11:09 PM
Look my daughter leaned on the space bar after i got done and i got banned. No warning just a ban. I am not a little kid i am 33 with no previous "spamming" as it said. She just leaned on the space bar. A little warning or something might be nice seeing how there are people on there posting huge things over and over every day i go in.
Well logs please and if we know your nick we can see where they banned you. I can just unban knowing your nick alone.

MinunTheFighter34
21st August 2007, 11:57 PM
Again, I've been banned by someone.I wasn't even advertising I don't know why they keep kicking me out, I mean what the hell.All I said I was looking for a squirtle and offering Hoenn/Johto starters.How the hell is that advertising, actually, That whole frikin chat is advertising in way, I wasn't trying to get anyone to go to a channel, so what the hell is up with this.

Btw my nickname was Minun.

Kirby
22nd August 2007, 1:04 AM
Look my daughter leaned on the space bar after i got done and i got banned. No warning just a ban. I am not a little kid i am 33 with no previous "spamming" as it said. She just leaned on the space bar. A little warning or something might be nice seeing how there are people on there posting huge things over and over every day i go in.

First of all, you're spamming now by double posting. Second of all, for a 33 year old, well, your lack of correct capitalization really sucks.

Also, leaning on a space bar won't get you banned. And for a 33 year old, you'd think you'd know how to read the first post in this topic which specifically states you must include logs, your chatroom nickname, etc.

Chris
22nd August 2007, 4:39 AM
As much as I hate those kick scripts that kick for stupid words (flute, hack, etc), that's what happened. I'm going to assume hack/hacked is on the list of no-no words, which will get you kicked.

It would be nice if you mods in SPP-Wifi would take time to gather up ALL of the scripts you use and post which words will get you kicked so people can have a warning of what words (as stupid as they may be) not to say in there.

I know Erik already did it, but the rest of you, get off your lazy a*ses and do it :P

And next time someone is asking for a hacked pokemon, just ignore them, don't say something like "omg that is hacked no don't ask for it..."

Because that in itself is minimodding AND will get you kicked and not them ;/ So just leave them if they're being stupid.
The script kick was for "level 9 Mew." It's there because you CANNOT get a Mew under level 10 and we've had a number of people trying to get Mew under level 10 thanks to them looking at the GTS and not at the Events List we have on the site.

As for Danny boy there...

[08:22] <darkpkmn> whos Chris
[08:22] <darkpkmn> can i be Chris
[08:23] <darkpkmn> do you know
[08:23] <Nagisa> Chris is the almighty captain of #SPP
[08:23] <darkpkmn> captain of what
[08:24] <darkpkmn> Can i be a Captain too
[08:25] <Captain_Chris> No.
[08:25] <darkpkmn> Why
[08:25] <Captain_Chris> There's only one Captain.
[08:25] <Captain_Chris> I am that.
[08:25] <Captain_Chris> Tough luck.
[08:25] <darkpkmn> I could be a better Captain
[08:25] <darkpkmn> Watch me
[08:25] * darkpkmn is now known as Captain_Dan
[08:26] <Captain_Dan> Im a Captain

He asked if he could "be me" as well as the "captain" and what not. Technically, trying to be another member who's an op falls under impersonation. I've kicked out several people who've attempted it.

Kirby
22nd August 2007, 4:46 AM
The script kick was for "level 9 Mew." It's there because you CANNOT get a Mew under level 10 and we've had a number of people trying to get Mew under level 10 thanks to them looking at the GTS and not at the Events List we have on the site.

[20:41] <Nem> need hacks
[20:41] * Spp{wifi} sets mode: +b *!*@65-102-42-57.ptld.qwest.net
[20:41] * You were kicked by Spp{wifi} («««« need hax?! lol no!!!!!! Kick Number 13391 »»»»)

It kicks for that word too, and regardless of what it kicks for, they still need to make a list of the words that get you banned, because some obviously are stupid and not many people would think they would get banned for saying them.

Chris
22nd August 2007, 4:50 AM
It kicks for that word too, and regardless of what it kicks for, they still need to make a list of the words that get you banned, because some obviously are stupid and not many people would think they would get banned for saying them.
Well yeah, but in that case it was because of "level 9 Mew." That triggered the script before the word "hack" could since it came before it.

Sadly, even if we made a list, people wouldn't read it. We have rules that no one reads and constantly break. >:| And if we did supply them with a list of stuff that kicks, we'd have people trying to evade them. >_>;

Kirby
22nd August 2007, 4:53 AM
Well yeah, but in that case it was because of "level 9 Mew." That triggered the script before the word "hack" could since it came before it.

Sadly, even if we made a list, people wouldn't read it. We have rules that no one reads and constantly break. >:| And if we did supply them with a list of stuff that kicks, we'd have people trying to evade them. >_>;

We could always like...

You know...Pull the "If you get banned because you said a banned word and then complain because you didn't read the list that all the mods posted of banned words, you can an infraction" routine.

y/n?

Hitsugaya
22nd August 2007, 4:55 AM
Well yeah, but in that case it was because of "level 9 Mew." That triggered the script before the word "hack" could since it came before it.

Sadly, even if we made a list, people wouldn't read it. We have rules that no one reads and constantly break. >:| And if we did supply them with a list of stuff that kicks, we'd have people trying to evade them. >_>;

Especially newbies.

Chris
22nd August 2007, 5:02 AM
We could always like...

You know...Pull the "If you get banned because you said a banned word and then complain because you didn't read the list that all the mods posted of banned words, you can an infraction" routine.

y/n?
Still wouldn't solve the issue of people having the list of kickable words and using different spellings to evade them. :(

Erik Destler
22nd August 2007, 5:42 AM
[20:41] <Nem> need hacks
[20:41] * Spp{wifi} sets mode: +b *!*@65-102-42-57.ptld.qwest.net
[20:41] * You were kicked by Spp{wifi} («««« need hax?! lol no!!!!!! Kick Number 13391 »»»»)

It kicks for that word too, and regardless of what it kicks for, they still need to make a list of the words that get you banned, because some obviously are stupid and not many people would think they would get banned for saying them.

To my knowledge, no hack isn't banned.
Need hack, however, is..

And guy up there was banned for saying "/j"

I think I should get rid of it as it does seem to help anymore..

And evasion of scripts is a major pain..

And people say omg wat roolz al i c r dose unda chatz!!

Also, people some how find it ridiculous that movie is banned..I mean wtf, why do you need to talk about movies?!
Wifi only, dur.

Kirby
22nd August 2007, 8:52 AM
Still wouldn't solve the issue of people having the list of kickable words and using different spellings to evade them. :(

Sure it would, you could just include alternate spellings in the warning :)

As for scripts, why not just have one main copy and all of you who use them use that same one, because it's annoying having one op who has one word banned, yet another op doesn't have that word banned.

You script users seriously need to have some sort of meeting or something to discuss that, because it really is retarded.

Ryuusei
22nd August 2007, 10:25 AM
Erik, I'm Ryuusei/Awaytifly.

Kirby
22nd August 2007, 10:29 AM
From what I know, some of us don't use scripts cause we actually bother being active in the channel instead of relying on our scripts all the time, D:

Anyway, I do manual time kickbans so yeah, your ban lasts from one minute to forever depending on the situation and my mood (well, sometimes).

So Joe gave you ops?

Ryuusei
22nd August 2007, 3:44 PM
He gave me HOp for WiFi (It was like, two weeks back, D: ). Your SPP Campaign didn't work though.

Oh, and to toss in my personal opinion, the /j script and the Wonder Guard one should be ditched. Someone ended up screaming in SPP about the Wonder Guard Kickban, so yeah.

Erik Destler
22nd August 2007, 4:29 PM
I don't care about wonder guard kick, but the /j will be terminated.


Sure it would, you could just include alternate spellings in the warning

..You don't know how many variations there are for darkrai/shaymin/arceus. Check my script sometime, k?

There are tons.

And currently my scripts all have specific reasons as to why people were banned, except for the spam scripts but that's a giveme.

Chris
22nd August 2007, 8:58 PM
I'm afraid Wonder Guard's gonna have to stay in the scripts. What reason would anyone have to come to WiFi to discuss the ability other than to ask for Pokémon that aren't Shedinja with it? Either way, my scripts are faaar more basic than everyone else's. I think of all the script users, I'm the only one with the least amount of triggers.

Stone_Cutter
22nd August 2007, 9:33 PM
I was battling someone when today who i knew was a hacker because i knew his infernape was hacked since it survived an EQ from my ev trained aerodactyl @ life orb. So i d/c'ed since i knew he was hacking. Then he told me he was a semi op and he was gonna ban me for having an aerodactyl w/ hacked speed... Infernape's base speed is 108, while aerodactyl's base speed is 130, so it makes sense that it outran his infernape... Meanwhile i was asking in the lobby:"Anyone wanna battle who DOESN"T have hacked pkmn?" and then about 1 min later i got kicked.. I was just wondering: Did i get kicked for saying "hacked" in the lobby or did the guy get me kicked?

Shuko
22nd August 2007, 9:38 PM
I was battling someone when today who i knew was a hacker because i knew his infernape was hacked since it survived an EQ from my ev trained aerodactyl @ life orb. So i d/c'ed since i knew he was hacking. Then he told me he was a semi op and he was gonna ban me for having an aerodactyl w/ hacked speed... Infernape's base speed is 108, while aerodactyl's base speed is 130, so it makes sense that it outran his infernape... Meanwhile i was asking in the lobby:"Anyone wanna battle who DOESN"T have hacked pkmn?" and then about 1 min later i got kicked.. I was just wondering: Did i get kicked for saying "hacked" in the lobby or did the guy get me kicked?I think it was the "hacked" thing. Otherwise, you're not telling us the whole story. :p Anyway, where are the logs? What was your chat name?

Stone_Cutter
22nd August 2007, 9:41 PM
my chat name was "Rosebud"; i found out i got kicked cuz the other guy reported me for cursing; i wasn't cursing, he must've been mad about me d/c'ing but he was using hacked pkmn; that's why i d/c'ed

Nny
22nd August 2007, 9:44 PM
my chat name was "Rosebud"; i found out i got kicked cuz the other guy reported me for cursing; i wasn't cursing, he must've been mad about me d/c'ing but he was using hacked pkmn; that's why i d/c'ed
Actually, you ended up PMing me.


16:19:05) (Rosebud) guest 9446 is really annoying me
(16:19:11) (Rosebud) he has hacked pkmn & saying that i hack
(16:19:24) (Rosebud) he's saying that he's gonna get me kicked...
(16:22:07) —› kick: (Rosebud) was kicked by (Dahlia_Hawthorne:#SPP-WiFi) (keep your language clean please (4631))

Sorry, I didn't see your PM. Dx
Anyways yeah, unless they have % or @ on the list, they aren't an OP. Also, don't swear.

EDIT: Erm if you weren't cursing, please show us the complete log.

MinunTheFighter34
22nd August 2007, 9:45 PM
I don't get it, Is it because I said Squirtle?Or what?God, these chat mods really need to read the message before they kick people...this time my Nick name was "Minun_Fighter"

Nny
22nd August 2007, 9:48 PM
I don't get it, Is it because I said Squirtle?Or what?God, these chat mods really need to read the message before they kick people...this time my Nick name was "Minun_Fighter"
(16:39:14) (Minun_Fighter) Trading Hoenn/Johto starters, anyone have a squirtle?
(16:39:14) —› mode: (Squirtle) sets mode (+b *!*@ip72-196-3-76.om.om.cox.net)
(16:39:14) —› This (*!*@ip72-196-3-76.om.om.cox.net) ban affects: (Minun_Fighter)
(16:39:14) —› kick: (Minun_Fighter) was kicked by (Squirtle) («««« don't try to get us to come to your stupid channels! Kick Number 36256533435153 »»»»)

Seems like something wrong with the script. Tyler has some explaining to do!

Stone_Cutter
22nd August 2007, 9:49 PM
Actually, you ended up PMing me.


16:19:05) (Rosebud) guest 9446 is really annoying me
(16:19:11) (Rosebud) he has hacked pkmn & saying that i hack
(16:19:24) (Rosebud) he's saying that he's gonna get me kicked...
(16:22:07) —› kick: (Rosebud) was kicked by (Dahlia_Hawthorne:#SPP-WiFi) (keep your language clean please (4631))

Sorry, I didn't see your PM. Dx
Anyways yeah, unless they have % or @ on the list, they aren't an OP. Also, don't swear.

EDIT: Erm if you weren't cursing, please show us the complete log.
well that's just it; i didn't curse; the guy who got me kicked - did he have logs?

Erik Destler
23rd August 2007, 1:10 AM
(16:39:14) (Minun_Fighter) Trading Hoenn/Johto starters, anyone have a squirtle?
(16:39:14) —› mode: (Squirtle) sets mode (+b *!*@ip72-196-3-76.om.om.cox.net)
(16:39:14) —› This (*!*@ip72-196-3-76.om.om.cox.net) ban affects: (Minun_Fighter)
(16:39:14) —› kick: (Minun_Fighter) was kicked by (Squirtle) («««« don't try to get us to come to your stupid channels! Kick Number 36256533435153 »»»»)

Seems like something wrong with the script. Tyler has some explaining to do!

..


And guy up there was banned for saying "/j"

I think I should get rid of it as it does seem to help anymore..

>:[

I already deleted it.
I assumed i didnt have to say anything and you guys would read this..

Ryuusei
23rd August 2007, 8:27 AM
I'm afraid Wonder Guard's gonna have to stay in the scripts. What reason would anyone have to come to WiFi to discuss the ability other than to ask for Pokémon that aren't Shedinja with it? Either way, my scripts are faaar more basic than everyone else's. I think of all the script users, I'm the only one with the least amount of triggers.

People ask for 'Wonder Guard Shedinja' and get kicked.

Though they should've used common sense though.

Kirby
23rd August 2007, 8:47 AM
I don't care about wonder guard kick, but the /j will be terminated.



..You don't know how many variations there are for darkrai/shaymin/arceus. Check my script sometime, k?

There are tons.

And currently my scripts all have specific reasons as to why people were banned, except for the spam scripts but that's a giveme.

No no, that's not what I meant, I should make myself more clear.

This would be a good idea, we post the whole list of all the triggers, then, if anyone complains about being kicked for setting off a trigger in the chat discussion, we give them an infraction, because they obviously didn't read the triggers list ;/

And we could be like "For those of you who complain about the script kick without reading the trigger list, you will get an infraction, and that includes being kicked for alternate spellings not on the trigger list but that got you kicked later on..."

Because I'm sure a lot of you add new alternate spellings on the trigger list as soon as they pop up, and it would be a pain to update the trigger list on the forum every time you added a new alt spelling.

But it's just an idea ;)


He gave me HOp for WiFi (It was like, two weeks back, D: ). Your SPP Campaign didn't work though.

Oh, and to toss in my personal opinion, the /j script and the Wonder Guard one should be ditched. Someone ended up screaming in SPP about the Wonder Guard Kickban, so yeah.

Oh just wait, he'll give in, they always do >;D

Artorias
23rd August 2007, 9:57 AM
I was kicked for looking for the Game Freak employees' (Junichi Masuda, Ken Sugimori, and Shigeki Morimoto) Psyduck.

Kirby
23rd August 2007, 10:53 AM
I was kicked for looking for the Game Freak employees' (Junichi Masuda, Ken Sugimori, and Shigeki Morimoto) Psyduck.

Logs would be nice, or perhaps your chat nick?

Actually, I found the logs.

[01:46] <Mr_Munchlax> anybody have one of the creators' psyduck?
[01:46] * Mario sets mode: +b *!*@124.106.208.40
[01:46] * Mr_Munchlax was kicked by Mario (lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad)

And you were not repeating, nor doing anything bad, so I have no idea.

Again, I emphasize for the rest of you all to post your kick triggers, so situations in which innocent people get kicked for no reason don't happen.

Ryuusei
23rd August 2007, 10:58 AM
Kirbs, Creator is another kick trigger for Arceus searchers.

Kirby
23rd August 2007, 11:01 AM
Kirbs, Creator is another kick trigger for Arceus searchers.

That is so retarded I don't even know where to begin.

Artorias
23rd August 2007, 11:03 AM
Oh. I meant the CREATORS of Pokémon, so I didn't know. I was looking for a freaking Psyduck.

That is so retarded I don't even know where to begin.
Yes it is.

Kirby
23rd August 2007, 11:04 AM
Oh. I meant the CREATORS of Pokémon, so I didn't know.

Don't feel bad, I didn't know either, and I'm an op :)

Shuko
23rd August 2007, 1:06 PM
That is so retarded I don't even know where to begin.
I know it's on Erik's kick scripts. :p I've seen it there before. And I would say it's not any more retarded than the people who've used it trying to look for/offer Arceus. xD

Erik Destler
23rd August 2007, 3:07 PM
and why couldn't you have just said their names?

o_O

technically creator = Arceus in pokemon |<
It was one of the many how shall I say alternate spellings for Arceus I added.

Shuko
24th August 2007, 2:24 PM
Just a note for people who complain about being banned. If you said any of the following, then a script most likely got you. These are the bannable phrases/words that Erik Destler's script will jump on you for. :p Don't say you haven't been warned, because he posted all this earlier in the thread, lol.

#SPP-Wifi:
491
492
493
#shinys
#trades
@rc3u5
@rceus
<censored> <censored>
10th movie
4th gen eve
a r c e u s
a. r. c. e. u. s
a.r.c.e.u.s
a+r+c+e+u+s
action replay
acton
adarkia
all poke
all shiny poke
anal
ar ce us
AR code
a-r-c-
arc..
arc.eus
arcec
arceoos
arceu
arceus
arcue
Arcues
arcus
aruceus
Aruseus
azure flute
bad dream
ceus
chelsea rulz
chia pet
clan
classic ribbon
crater
creator
d a r k r a i
d. a. r. k. r. a. i
d.a.r.k.r.a.i
d@rk
d@rkr@!
dakria
dakryi
daria
dark--
dark event
dark rai
dark void
dark.
darka
darkai
darkr
darkr
darkr
Darkra!
darkrai
darkri
demo
dp event
drak
drkri
EIGAKAN
every poke
film
flower
forbidden
fourth gen events
freeweb
game shark
gameshark
generous hacker
god poke
hall of origin
heaven pipe
heavens pipe
heaven's pipe
hedgehog
iarkrad
invisionfree
league
max stat
movie
need a hacker
need hack
neopets
new event
new moon
newmoon
nice hacker
******
nightmare
nimyahs
oaks letter
oak's letter
pbr codes
pbr electi
pbr magmor
plate pokemon
pokesav
r c s
r c u s
r@i
rceus
replay
roar of time
runescape
s h a y m i n
s. h. a. y. m. i. n
s.h.a.y.m.i.n
sex
shaimyn
shay
SHAY-
shay..
shaymin
Sheimi
shymn
site
special event
special rend
suecra
theater
tourn
unmentionable
unspeakable
wonder
wonder guard
wonderguard
you know who
you-know-who

#SPP:
action replay
acton
AR code
chelsea rulz
game shark
gameshark
invisionfree
pokesav
replay

Kirby
24th August 2007, 2:32 PM
Just a note for people who complain about being banned. If you said any of the following, then a script most likely got you. These are the bannable phrases/words that Erik Destler's script will jump on you for. :p Don't say you haven't been warned, because he posted all this earlier in the thread, lol.

#SPP-Wifi:
you know who
you-know-who


LMAO VOLDEMORT GOT BANNED ;_;! I bet he's so ****** :[

Thanks for the list~

Shuko
24th August 2007, 2:43 PM
LMAO VOLDEMORT GOT BANNED ;_;! I bet he's so ****** :[

Thanks for the list~Lol. I chuckled at that one too. :p Erik's kick message for those is "no you aren't trading voldemort." xD

Kirby
24th August 2007, 2:57 PM
Lol. I chuckled at that one too. :p Erik's kick message for those is "no you aren't trading voldemort." xD

LMAO that's awesome ;-;

I WANT TO TRADE VOLDEMORT ERIK ;;

Erik Destler
24th August 2007, 5:42 PM
looooooooooooooong post

I deleted /j out of my script
just haven't updated that on the google docs yet. >_>

also, roar of time
and special rend aren't a part of it any more cause Serebii said no..

HotSkittyOnWailordAction
24th August 2007, 7:59 PM
I got banned for changing my username to SerebiiBot3 just after someone changed their name to SerebiiBot2.

Erik Destler
24th August 2007, 8:04 PM
Indeed. That would be considering impersonation... :[

Shuko
24th August 2007, 8:10 PM
I deleted /j out of my script
just haven't updated that on the google docs yet. >_>

also, roar of time
and special rend aren't a part of it any more cause Serebii said no..Fixed. :) I've removed it too. Not that it matters. When this page is filled, the list will again be forgotten, lol.

Kirby
24th August 2007, 8:16 PM
I got banned for changing my username to SerebiiBot3 just after someone changed their name to SerebiiBot2.

Well considering I had banned SerebiiBot2 (or was it SerebiiBot1) before you changed your name to Serebiibot3, common sense would tell you that doing that will get you banned.

Leona
24th August 2007, 9:22 PM
Shuko sure has some big brains :(
she should be an Op herself :D

Shuko
24th August 2007, 9:37 PM
Shuko sure has some big brains :(
she should be an Op herself :DFirst of all, I don't have big brains. :p I have teeny brains and a big head. There's a difference. ;) And anyway, Erik did all the work; not me. I just extracted the parts out of his script that would be easily understood. :3 Never you mind how I got them out of there. Suffice it to say it involved a simple C++ program that took less than ten minutes to write. xD

Second, I wouldn't be an OP if you paid me. xD I'm too selfish. :p Being an OP is even worse than being a mod. You get to babysit a bunch of whiny little brats for no pay, but in the chat, you're doing it real time. xD

I see no real benefits for me. :p And like I said, I'm selfish. I think most of the people in charge know that by now. If not, they should!

Jewperman
24th August 2007, 11:43 PM
I was banned for having my nick as Jewperman :( I am Jewish btw

Jewperman
24th August 2007, 11:44 PM
I was banned for having my nick as Jewperman :( I am Jewish btw

darkyasu
25th August 2007, 10:19 AM
nickname at the time:hi hi
chatroom:#spp-wifi
op:mario I believe
I apparently got kicked out for the following
so it's not ok for a movie event darkrai to be asked for and yet a guest called wifiguest1097 was offering one much earlier than when i asked for one yet he was never kicked out or anything so is that kosher?

Kirby
25th August 2007, 10:26 AM
nickname at the time:hi hi
chatroom:#spp-wifi
op:mario I believe
I apparently got kicked out for the following
so it's not ok for a movie event darkrai to be asked for and yet a guest called wifiguest1097 was offering one much earlier than when i asked for one yet he was never kicked out or anything so is that kosher?

I can't speak for why the Guest was not kicked, however, we've said multiple times in multiple topics that asking for Darkrai, be it hacked OR the movie one, will get you banned. Nearly all the Darkrai's offered are going to be hacked, so that is why we keep the full on ban on just asking for it, including the legit one.

Count Alphez
25th August 2007, 12:00 PM
i am outraged, a mod named "Captain chris" banned someone for spamming or something... where the kick message was placed. he wrote "banned cause you don't ****ing listen"

fair enough... i don't give a horse crap who writes what on the chat, but the fact that this chris tool thinks himself above the rules enough that he can swear and disobey the rules whilst handing out justice to another makes me sick.

if these mods are allowed to get away with this, then it has destroyed my idea of this very site... i have long thought serebii as a brilliant site for pokemon discussion, battle, trade etc. and have recommended the chat and forums to all my friends... to be let down like this is plainly insulting and crushing.

whats more, was that when i openly wrote "i thought swearing was against the rules" i was banned for "arguing with the ops" by chris himself... censoring open opinion and discussion seems to be another one of this captain chris morons skills.

i hate to see the chat being run by moronic hitler wannabees who believe that they can exert total control over the people who chat on their site.

i by no means think of this site or the wifi chat as ridiculous... just the pathetic moderator who has just as much horse sense as a walrus dying of thirst, whilst trying to lick frost of a flagpole in the middle of the gobi desert.

Captain Chris, ****ing poor example.

Leona
25th August 2007, 12:11 PM
First of all, I don't have big brains. :p I have teeny brains and a big head. There's a difference. ;) And anyway, Erik did all the work; not me. I just extracted the parts out of his script that would be easily understood. :3 Never you mind how I got them out of there. Suffice it to say it involved a simple C++ program that took less than ten minutes to write. xD

Second, I wouldn't be an OP if you paid me. xD I'm too selfish. :p Being an OP is even worse than being a mod. You get to babysit a bunch of whiny little brats for no pay, but in the chat, you're doing it real time. xD

I see no real benefits for me. :p And like I said, I'm selfish. I think most of the people in charge know that by now. If not, they should!

lmao well said :(

Kirby
25th August 2007, 12:14 PM
i am outraged, a mod named "Captain chris" banned someone for spamming or something... where the kick message was placed. he wrote "banned cause you don't ****ing listen"

fair enough... i don't give a horse crap who writes what on the chat, but the fact that this chris tool thinks himself above the rules enough that he can swear and disobey the rules whilst handing out justice to another makes me sick.

if these mods are allowed to get away with this, then it has destroyed my idea of this very site... i have long thought serebii as a brilliant site for pokemon discussion, battle, trade etc. and have recommended the chat and forums to all my friends... to be let down like this is plainly insulting and crushing.

whats more, was that when i openly wrote "i thought swearing was against the rules" i was banned for "arguing with the ops" by chris himself... censoring open opinion and discussion seems to be another one of this captain chris morons skills.

i hate to see the chat being run by moronic hitler wannabees who believe that they can exert total control over the people who chat on their site.

i by no means think of this site or the wifi chat as ridiculous... just the pathetic moderator who has just as much horse sense as a walrus dying of thirst, whilst trying to lick frost of a flagpole in the middle of the gobi desert.

Captain Chris, ****ing poor example.

=D

Saying something like "I thought swearing was against the rules" is basically minimodding :(

And just about everyone swears in there, ops or not. It's just, if you come in and are all "F*CK YOU ALL AHHHH" then yea, you'll get banned :P

Anyways, have fun with this, I'm not getting involved =D

Count Alphez
25th August 2007, 12:19 PM
yeah, i don't care who swears... im just saying. it was a mod who swore, and he did it while telling someone else off... how is anyone who voids the chats NUMBER 1 rule, suitable for handing out judgement?

nearly everyone asks for darkrais at one point too... there aint no leniency there.

does someone get my point?

Kirby
25th August 2007, 12:20 PM
yeah, i don't care who swears... im just saying. it was a mod who swore, and he did it while telling someone else off... how is anyone who voids the chats NUMBER 1 rule, suitable for handing out judgement?

nearly everyone asks for darkrais at one point too... there aint no leniency there.

does someone get my point?

No I get your point. I see what you're saying. Read my PM :P

Count Alphez
26th August 2007, 5:09 AM
Thank you greatly.

my faith has been restored in the chat.

nubinator
26th August 2007, 5:18 AM
Zomg i was kick by erik distler cause i dared someone to flame him :o[/noob]

Kirby
26th August 2007, 5:31 AM
Zomg i was kick by erik distler cause i dared someone to flame him :o[/noob]

lmao :(

Reminds me of this stupid kid, who's going around impersonating the ops, and is all "WHY DID YOU BAN ME BLOO, ALL I DID WAS TELL SOMEONE TO IMPERSONATE AN OP, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!!!"

Because I told him yesterday that if he did it again he was banned from both chats and the forums forever, now he's going to try and go to Bulbagarden to get on of the mods there to unban him here.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE :(?

nubinator
26th August 2007, 5:32 AM
lmao :(

Reminds me of this stupid kid, who's going around impersonating the ops, and is all "WHY DID YOU BAN ME BLOO, ALL I DID WAS TELL SOMEONE TO IMPERSONATE AN OP, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!!!"

Because I told him yesterday that if he did it again he was banned from both chats and the forums forever, now he's going to try and go to Bulbagarden to get on of the mods there to unban him here.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE :(?


Yes :( sorry for what I've said :'(

Shuko
27th August 2007, 4:52 AM
i have long thought serebii as a brilliant site for pokemon discussion, battle, trade etc.This part made me lol. xD


whats more, was that when i openly wrote "i thought swearing was against the rules" i was banned for "arguing with the ops" by chris himself... censoring open opinion and discussion seems to be another one of this captain chris morons skills.This is not a democracy. This isn't even a democratic republic like the USA. :p This is a privately owned, privately run institution. Joe makes most of the rules, then he delegates the rest to his subordinates to create and carry out. If you've got beef with one of the mods about the only thing you can do is PM an admin and let 'em know. Just so you know, though, publicly announcing your displeasure for all to see is neither tactful nor mature of you, and it's less likely that your complaint will be considered without bias. :p That's my impression, anyway. But I'm just a nobody.


i hate to see the chat being run by moronic hitler wannabeesThis part also made me lol (Imagines Erik Destler with a hitler 'stache and some tall, shiny boots... much giggling ensues)


who believe that they can exert total control over the people who chat on their site.News flash. They can and they do. It's how things are done in privately owned chatrooms. If you don't like it, you're free to contact dejatoons or some other mIRC server and make your own with your own rules. ;) Again, just my impression.


i by no means think of this site or the wifi chat as ridiculous... just the pathetic moderator who has just as much horse sense as a walrus dying of thirst, whilst trying to lick frost of a flagpole in the middle of the gobi desert.

Captain Chris, ****ing poor example.Why would a walrus be in the middle of the Gobi desert, and why would there be frost there? I'm confused. o_0 Your symbolism hurts my head. Anyway, I'd like to see a response to this. :p Even though almost identical cases to complaints like yours have occurred, it never gets boring. :p

Siona
27th August 2007, 11:59 AM
[12:50:54] <wetnthapants> where the wifi battle channel i dunno how to work this
[12:51:05] <Siona> #SPP-WiFi
[12:51:06] * xD has quit IRC (Serebii.net Rules!!)
[12:51:07] * Asuka sets mode: +b *!*@wc-c-67c7.adsl.wanadoo.nl
[12:51:07] * You were kicked by Asuka (YOUR CHANNEL SUCKS)

i'm fine with ban scripts on certain triggers, but learn 2 code exceptions because this clearly isn't working.

Sharpedo Boy
27th August 2007, 6:20 PM
I was kicked and my name was jimmy wang yang.
Torkoal kicked me.

mrdurp4
27th August 2007, 7:57 PM
being the usuall idiot i am. i decided to kicked off the wifi chat and i got this message #SPP-WiFi by Mario (Shaymin? HA! IN YOUR DREAMS!) lol now thats funny

Jonatron
27th August 2007, 8:56 PM
possibly as Jonatron or jonatron

I got banned for asking for a hack or glitch arceus. i think it was a auto Ban, please restore me, i'll never get caught doing it again. Seriously. i'll just look for hacked arceus on Gamefaqs. There was no chance for screenshots or copy/pasting as i didn't know there was a 'Reprival' system.

Edit: If i'd typed this on the Wifi Chat i'd be banned 3 times including the intro. Funny that...

Shuko
27th August 2007, 8:59 PM
possibly as Jonatron or jonatron

I got banned for asking for a hack or glitch arceus. i think it was a auto Ban, please restore me, i'll never get caught doing it again. Seriously. i'll just look for hacked arceus on Gamefaqs. There was no chance for screenshots or copy/pasting as i didn't know there was a 'Reprival' system.Just wait for the banlist to clear. It usually takes less than a day. It may be that you were just kicked, tho. I don't know whose script got you. If you were kicked, you can get right back in. :p But a ban will last for a little while.

Why'd you even ASK for Arceus? It says at the very top of the chat that you can't ask for any of those Pokemon. It even says it in the login message. :/ It's not like you didn't have any warning.

Chris
28th August 2007, 2:05 PM
possibly as Jonatron or jonatron

I got banned for asking for a hack or glitch arceus. i think it was a auto Ban, please restore me, i'll never get caught doing it again. Seriously. i'll just look for hacked arceus on Gamefaqs. There was no chance for screenshots or copy/pasting as i didn't know there was a 'Reprival' system.

Edit: If i'd typed this on the Wifi Chat i'd be banned 3 times including the intro. Funny that...
You were banned fairly. It's in the topic title of the chat. It's in the rules on the site and the forums. It's your fault.

Jonatron
28th August 2007, 4:47 PM
Hey... me again. I got this message,

[00:48] You've been kicked out of #SPP-WiFi by Mario (lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad)

for saying 'Unmentionables' when someone was asking about what someone was refering to when they said they where asking for the three in the 'Top Sign'. Gah... i should just mind my own businuss.

Oh, 'Kick' and 'Ban' is there a difference? i mean, i'm just wanting a little bit of trading before i nip out then this happens? and this time it isn't my fault! anyway, thanks for anyone who can clear this up. I'm gonna do some research on how to avoid getting kicked out all the time.

Edit: hey, must have been a 5 minute thing. still, the real time trading is worth the inconvenience. sorry to have taken your time.

Kaiserin
29th August 2007, 12:06 AM
I was kicked and my name was jimmy wang yang.
Torkoal kicked me.

Yeah, and?

Anything else besides some totally vague information, or should we just continue ignoring your post?

Kireas
30th August 2007, 2:47 PM
I was kicked from #SPP this morning at about 9:00AM GMT (perhaps 10:00AM) by @Leona.

No reason was given...she kicked @Kirby by accident, and then I was kicked with the kick message of : (I MEANT YOU)

The only thing I did prior to being kicked was the Kirby smiley <(^.^)>. Either this is banned, Leona doesn't like it or I missed something. I'd been AFK for 7 hours previously...so I'm fairly sure I didn't do anything else.

I PM'ed Leona via SPP-WiFi asking for details on it, and got kicked from there as well by her. The ban from SPP-WiFi timed out 2 hours later (or less, but thats when I tried again) and I asked her again, with the following log:

"<Kireas>: gonna regret this but: Leona, can I ask when the other room ban will expire? The wi-fi one has done, if its undetermined time just say, if it will expire after a few more hours say, you don't have to say in PM, say it in the about to happen kick message if you would PLEASE. I still don't even know while I was kicked...."

I was kicked, with the simple kick "***You were banned from #SPP-WiFi by Leona (Leona)"

Firstly how long will this ban last (going on 4 or 5 hours now), and secondly, what exactly did I do? It's not like I do bad things in there...I'm in there all the time, I LIKE it in there...:'(

Screen-name was: Kireas

Shuko
30th August 2007, 2:52 PM
I'd say you were most likely banned the subsequent times for PMing the OP. It says very plainly in the rules not to PM the OPs. :p Also, you're not allowed to ask about bans in there either, lol. You broke two rules at once.

Did you do any of the following?
Abuse the /me command
Use the # character
Create that Kirby smiley even though she told you not to
Use bold font
Use underline font?

Any of the above would either get you an auto kick, or Leona would have kicked you manually for them.

Kireas
30th August 2007, 2:57 PM
The other two times, yes I am completely aware of that. XD Thats why I asked for the reason to be told in the kick message :P

Nope, nope, no, and I don't even know how to do the last two :P That's what confuses me. I have no idea what is going on.

P.S. Love your "how to catch shiny's post". Read it while I was waiting for a reply here, its very useful.

rogueoeht
30th August 2007, 2:59 PM
my step-bro krazee_g has been kicked twice the first time was for n reason and the second time was for saying darkrai i think

Kaiserin
30th August 2007, 3:28 PM
my step-bro krazee_g has been kicked twice the first time was for n reason and the second time was for saying darkrai i think

...And your point is?

How are those two bans "unfair"?

rogueoeht
30th August 2007, 3:36 PM
i know the second one was fair but the first one was just a random kick

Kaiserin
30th August 2007, 3:44 PM
i know the second one was fair but the first one was just a random kick

Oh, I thought when you said "n" reason, you meant the "n" word rather than a typo of "no".

Still, if you don't have any logs or proof other than EXTREMELY vague information, can't do much about it other than tell you to wait it out.

rogueoeht
30th August 2007, 4:22 PM
Nyah its okay ^^ it was a while back and I hate the little ******* anyways!

DarkTyphlosion157
30th August 2007, 4:37 PM
I said something, then as soon as I disappeared I posted it again.
Auto-kickban for repeating. Was for 5 minutes I think. Didn't count the time.

Shuko
30th August 2007, 4:40 PM
I said something, then as soon as I disappeared I posted it again.
Auto-kickban for repeating. Was for 5 minutes I think. Didn't count the time.You get an auto-kick for repeating if you say something three times in a row. It doesn't matter how far apart the messages are. :p Don't feel bad. This is something we all learn the hard way sooner or later, lol.

DarkTyphlosion157
30th August 2007, 4:46 PM
It was the second time I said it...but I'm not bothered.

HotSkittyOnWailordAction
30th August 2007, 5:10 PM
I just got kicked by Sleeping Captain. My nick was HyperBeam. I was kicked for no reason to be exact.

DarkTyphlosion157
30th August 2007, 5:12 PM
^You must have done something...

Chris
30th August 2007, 5:52 PM
I just got kicked by Sleeping Captain. My nick was HyperBeam. I was kicked for no reason to be exact.
* HyperBeam Defence greatly rose!
* Chrisisme used Close Combat!

I kicked you both out for RPing. ;\

ijea4444
30th August 2007, 10:56 PM
i tried logging on and it said i was shitlisted what does that mean and can i ever go back? and one time i had my caps on and accedntly typed it and pressed enter. i never looked at the screen and then i saw i was banned oops, lol.

Keitaro-kun
30th August 2007, 11:24 PM
Shitlisted means you are banned from that channel for life [Or at least at the channels I go to : \]~

ijea4444
30th August 2007, 11:31 PM
what did i do to get shitlisted and can i ask mod to get me back?

Kaiserin
30th August 2007, 11:44 PM
You must have the same host provider as Torterratron (who is the person on the blacklist who should be kicked instead of you). I found the error in my script (I think), so I've unbanned you and changed it so it only bans the EXACT address that's in the script rather than everyone with the same host.

Sorry about that; proof yet again of my failure to code correctly.

ijea4444
31st August 2007, 12:35 AM
o thank you soo much . i knew i had done nothing wrong. i wonder what would have happened if i never said anything. i would have banned for no reason. well ill try to be carefull and try not to keep caps on.

Ridley-X4
1st September 2007, 5:02 PM
I was just kicked by Capt. Chris just for voicing my negative opinion of One Piece. Is that really the way someone will deal with another who merely disagrees with them?

HotSkittyOnWailordAction
1st September 2007, 6:37 PM
^What did you say? We needs logs.

Chris
1st September 2007, 6:46 PM
We all know of your trolling ways, Mr. ZOMGGUNBUSTAA. :(

Ridley-X4
1st September 2007, 9:55 PM
It was a mere opinion. What of it?

Now I was just kicked by Leona for changing names.

Space Guard
2nd September 2007, 8:44 PM
I was banned from #SPP-WiFi for warning people. I said that someone was using hacked pokemon and I got banned. I would have thought the person using hacks would have been banned. I think It may be because I used the word 'hacked'. Is it possible to undo a ban? Will I be able to go on tommorow morning (GMT)?

HotSkittyOnWailordAction
2nd September 2007, 8:59 PM
You got hit by a script. Don't say the word hacked...

Space Guard
2nd September 2007, 9:04 PM
Yer I thought so. I didn't think you couldn't say it because I saw a person looking for a hacker but I kinda forgot about the script.

Keitaro-kun
3rd September 2007, 12:40 PM
I was just kicked by Capt. Chris just for voicing my negative opinion of One Piece.

Maybe a brain would say not to diss OP anywhere around him~

*Points to Avatar and Signature

[Have you only watched dubs? DUBS = FAIL]

DarkSpectrum
3rd September 2007, 8:08 PM
I appear to have been banned from both chatrooms unbeknowst til now.
[13:55] Connecting...
[13:55] Logging in...
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Checking ident...
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** No ident response; username prefixed with ~
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Found your hostname
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** You are permanently banned from DejaToons (ban evasion, general annoyance, and ****ishness)
[13:55] Error : Closing Link: SPPGuest6262[ppp-70-250-38-70.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] (User has been permanently banned from DejaToons (ban evasion, general annoyance, and ****ishness))
[13:55] Disconnected from irc.dejatoons.net

My chat name i choose is DarkSpectrum. I haven't even been in the chat for a week or so so I'm unsure where/when this happened or even why it happened.
Any help I could get on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

shinyhunter07
3rd September 2007, 8:14 PM
I got kicked and banned for asking for a 10th movie darkrai and the thing said until the event happens ANYWHERE in the world and it has happened in japan so idk wifi chat is for uninformed n00bs

SlipKnoT
3rd September 2007, 8:51 PM
I got kicked and banned for asking for a 10th movie darkrai and the thing said until the event happens ANYWHERE in the world and it has happened in japan so idk wifi chat is for uninformed n00bs

Hey, hey, what's this? What is this? It's, IT'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT! (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=263965)

Kirby
3rd September 2007, 10:37 PM
I appear to have been banned from both chatrooms unbeknowst til now.
[13:55] Connecting...
[13:55] Logging in...
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Looking up your hostname...
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Checking ident...
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** No ident response; username prefixed with ~
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** Found your hostname
[13:55] -betamax.dejatoons.net- *** You are permanently banned from DejaToons (ban evasion, general annoyance, and ****ishness)
[13:55] Error : Closing Link: SPPGuest6262[ppp-70-250-38-70.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net] (User has been permanently banned from DejaToons (ban evasion, general annoyance, and ****ishness))
[13:55] Disconnected from irc.dejatoons.net

My chat name i choose is DarkSpectrum. I haven't even been in the chat for a week or so so I'm unsure where/when this happened or even why it happened.
Any help I could get on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

If people would read my first post...

You do realize you have been banned from the ENTIRE server, right? We, as to say anyone from the chat, cannot help you at all. You need to go to the dejatoons forums and ask them.

You'll find the link in the first post in this topic. I suggest you read the rest of the post as well.

DarkSpectrum
3rd September 2007, 11:01 PM
If people would read my first post...

You do realize you have been banned from the ENTIRE server, right? We, as to say anyone from the chat, cannot help you at all. You need to go to the dejatoons forums and ask them.

You'll find the link in the first post in this topic. I suggest you read the rest of the post as well.

Your link does not work

Kirby
3rd September 2007, 11:24 PM
Your link does not work

They changed the link, because that's the link they have listed when you connect on the server.

- - Welcome to the DejaToons Network
- -
- - All network servers are accessible via irc.dejatoons.net
- -
- -
- - Website: http://www.dejatoons.net
- -
- - Network help channel: /join #help
- -
- - Network forum: http://forum.dejatoons.net

New link it this:

http://www.dejatoons.net/forum/

I'll update my first post. Thanks for pointing that out.

Chris
5th September 2007, 9:09 AM
I got kicked and banned for asking for a 10th movie darkrai and the thing said until the event happens ANYWHERE in the world and it has happened in japan so idk wifi chat is for uninformed n00bs
It's in the announcements. It's in the chat rules here on the forums. It's even in the chat topic title.

Oh, wait. What's that? Darkrai event happened WHERE? Oh, that's right, Japan! Considering the history of our chat, getting ANYTHING legit is unlikely to occur. Any time I update the god damned event list, you people pop up with events you didn't know about until it's posted.

For your information, Japan's no longer distributing Darkrai in large quantities. Most major theaters have stopped showing the movie and most small time theaters don't have the promotion. Considering a LARGE majority of our members are NOT in Japan, only a small amount have actual legit ones. Anyone who happens to have a large amount of Japanese events and isn't in Japan or has never been is clearly holding some phoneys. ;x

Blatsman
5th September 2007, 7:31 PM
Oh, wait. What's that? Darkrai event happened WHERE? Oh, that's right, Japan!

But you got to admit that Japan is on this planet.
And the rule on the chat is still confusing. :P

Yeah l know it is no rule it was a rule untill the Japanese Darkrai event and it just has not been updated, but still if someone never visted the forum and sees that big line he may ask for Darkrai because he thought it to be safe because Serebii said it but l know it is not updated but he would not know that because he does not have been in the forums and has no psychic powers that might happen.
This is no complaint but in theory this might happen.
And it would not even be dumb of him because if that big line says him he may ask for Darkrai the chance that he may ask for Darkrai would normally be bigger than the chace that Joe made a rule without considering that the rule may be changed in a situation like this and that he does not updated it.
Not that it is dumb of Joe, because it doesn't matter much a script kick does not stay long but it is not dumb of the said person too because of what l said the chance in theory that he may ask for Darkrai when the chat says that in a big line would be big and also he cannot read mindsa and also he may have so much hurry to get Darkrai that he would look no further so that her would immediatly ask that is no dumbness but just hurry yes rushing things is often not good but in this case it is really not dumb because he could never knew that that wasn't updated because that only get said in the forums and maybe in small letters in the chat when it loads l dunno that but if he does read the small line after reading the big it would be understandable because most people will expect big rules to be more important with good reason because big rules are often more important that is why they are big offcourse but in this case it is just strange but since there in general is a small percentage of a big rule being outdated it is not dumb to trust them because most of the time they are correct but l don't blame Joe either because the kick only lasts very short and this site is worth that in fat you do not lose soemthing by being kicked you still have the forum and the site so Serebii does not take something away from you he only gives less but since most people give nothing they cannot complain because you get what you pay for and most people don't pay and also it is only for a short time so that is what l mean.

So l don't mind. A_A

AliasLess
5th September 2007, 7:53 PM
<AliasLess> i neeed a power weight. i'm offering rare berries (enigma, ganlon, apicot).
=-= Mode #SPP-WiFi +b *!*@host86-134-160-88.range86-134.btcentralplus.com by Mario
=-= YOU (AliasLess) have been booted from #SPP-wifi by Mario (lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad)

I wasn't trying to evade scripts. I'm quite annoyed now.

Shuko
5th September 2007, 8:37 PM
<AliasLess> i neeed a power weight. i'm offering rare berries (enigma, ganlon, apicot).
=-= Mode #SPP-WiFi +b *!*@host86-134-160-88.range86-134.btcentralplus.com by Mario
=-= YOU (AliasLess) have been booted from #SPP-wifi by Mario (lol u iz tryin 2 evade teh scripts dat r bad)

I wasn't trying to evade scripts. I'm quite annoyed now.How'd you get those berries? o.o

Maybe Mario has them on his kick script... I don't see how, though. I thought they were available through either E-reader or colo games...

AliasLess
5th September 2007, 10:21 PM
How'd you get those berries? o.o

Maybe Mario has them on his kick script... I don't see how, though. I thought they were available through either E-reader or colo games...

I got them all from trades when trying to evolve my feebas. They're all most certainly obtainable. It's just numbers 61-64 that are definitely hacked. Also, I've been unbanned now, so it's all good.

Chris
6th September 2007, 5:08 AM
Blatsman, allow me to say that I didn't read one thing in your post.

WALL OF TEXT

Use paragraphs next time.

PLANES CURE TOWERS
6th September 2007, 1:05 PM
Blatsman, allow me to say that I didn't read one thing in your post.

WALL OF TEXT

Use paragraphs next time.
Saw this coming a mile off. :(

Blatsman
7th September 2007, 3:09 PM
Saw this coming a mile off. :(

Me too.... :(

Ho-oh Master
7th September 2007, 9:22 PM
[15:14] You've been kicked out of #SPP by Josh (byelol, blacklisted (1395))

Shuko
7th September 2007, 9:39 PM
[15:14] You've been kicked out of #SPP by Josh (byelol, blacklisted (1395))They kind of need a log, you know. They need to know your nick, why you were banned, and all of that. You've shown the ban message, but that's not necessarily the whole story, lol. Why'd he ban you?

Ho-oh Master
7th September 2007, 9:42 PM
They kind of need a log, you know. They need to know your nick, why you were banned, and all of that. You've shown the ban message, but that's not necessarily the whole story, lol. Why'd he ban you?

I can't give any proof as I was under a Guest (I just clicked the "chat" button next to forum) and then it said I was banned with that message. I'm Ho-oh_Master on the chat.

I know how this works Shuko >_> You know me o.o

PLANES CURE TOWERS
7th September 2007, 9:46 PM
Apparentley your mask coincides with one I have on my blacklist. I removed it for you.

Ho-oh Master
7th September 2007, 9:53 PM
And how does somone else get my Mask? O.o

PLANES CURE TOWERS
7th September 2007, 10:47 PM
Idk, that's just the only explanation I could come up with. The fact it said "blacklist" in the ban led me to such a conclusion. COnsidering also that my blacklist only has 2 adresses on it... then yeah.