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Hauntershadow92
1st July 2008, 5:10 PM
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee149/hauntershadow92/SGCBanner.jpg
*Credits to me*


ANNOUNCEMENT:
Kevin Garrett brought up a few good points. First, he poll above is getting more votes then people in the tourny. This is not good. Second, he brought up Garchomp. So, Im am going to do something. I want you guys to edit your sign in post with a BOLDED voteon the following question:

Would you guys want: Wobboeffet, Deoxys - S, and Garchomp in this tournemnt?
Answers should be based around a mix of them, none at all or all of them. Answers will NOT be accepted if there is not at least THREE sentances to back up your reasoning. Thank you kindly. Here is an example, which is my vote:



NOTICE: If you start getting into conversations about Brokeness, or anything NOt related to the tourny, not the tourny's contents, then I will mark it as spam and report it.



Garchomp, Wobbofett AND Deoxys-S have been banned!



Hey guys. This is long overdue. I have been reading a lot about an Official Serebii Tourny to rival those of other sites. So I took it upon myself to PM a mod and ask if I could make it. They said go ahead. Thanks Volteon!
So, I'm going to try and make this the largest tournement Serebii has and to make it end.


Rules:


6 vs. 6
Single Battles

Lv. 100 All

WIFI

Elimination Style

You MUST be active. If you are not active you will be D/Qed

Sleep Clause

Species Clause

Evasion Clause

OHKO Clause

Uber Clause

Hax Item Clause

D/Cing, unless you can prove it is the router, results ion D/Q

Wobbofet and Deoxys - S will be considered Uber in this tourny unless the poll results in more in favor by the sign-up date.

Singing Up:



















You will be allowed to switch teams between rounds. I don't want people looking at RMTs, discussing other people's teams though! Auto-DQ if I find out!





Fill out this form:


Serebii Username:



Ingame name:


FC:


Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask):
Read the ANNOUNCEMENT and post your vote:



Prizes:



1st:


;251;
10th Anniversary
OT: 10 ANIV
ID: 00010
IVs:
(30/20/20/12/19/25)
Nautre: Bold
Attacks:
(Ancient Power/Future Sight/Baton Pass/Perish Song)
HP (Water) 50
*This is PhoenixClaw's of Smogon*
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee149/hauntershadow92/1st.png



2nd:


;487;
IVs:
(31/22/23/31/22/19)
EVs:
252 Hp | 150 Def | 88SpDef | 20 Speed
Nature: Bold
Attacks:
(Dragon Pulse/Double Team/Protect/Will-O-Wisp)
HP (Ghost) 70
*This is Overwhelming Latios' of Serebii*
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee149/hauntershadow92/2ndcopy.png



3rd:


;384;
IVs:
(13/31/23/26/22/30)
EVs:
None
Nature: Hasty
Attacks:
(TBD)
HP (Flying) 69
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee149/hauntershadow92/3rd.png


Round 1: *Ends on Monday the 14th*
Yoshifan22 VS Xyden
Pokecrossbow VS Dr. Luigi
RayquazaX VS Eldin
Zapdragon VS Graceful Shinigami
Mareepman VS Graymonkey0
BlisseyMaster VS Luneth
ToushiroH95 VS Pimplup784
RayRay443 VS Darkhunter
JmH Reborn VS Davethefishguy
Baldwombat VS Cwidderb
Volteon VS Omegapit
Kevin Garret VS Phantom1113
King of Darkrai VS Goldfan
Zondrina VS FemmeFatale
mclovin VS Shard 567
SilverSeraph VS Greek Pokemaster
Poketamer VS Mr. Ralts
42 VS Bestgamepearl
Dbix VS SlySheen
randomspot555 VS Legend6491
Bookist VS TNS
Hauntershadow92 VS Mastadi
Snake 101 VS Alcehmeng
Shikamarufan VS Dr.agon
CRAZIE GUY VS thebattler1
Negativenut VS Pikawho?
Zogu VS Anyone can Learn
Sumoboi VS Iggly
Stryke VS Roc
Superflanker VS Cisco1990
Sakurai VS Artica
Sheikthegeek VS Mrbadguy096


Round 2 This round ends Tuesday the 22nd
Rayray443 VS Shikamarufan
SheiktheGeek VS Cwidderb
Stryke VS Sumoboi
Negativenut VS Mareepman
RayquazaX VS Artica
Yoshifan22 VS 42
Kevin Garret VS Mastadi
Dr. Luigi VS SuperFlanker
Snake 101 VS SilverSeraph
BlisseyMaster VS Graceful Shinigami
Slysheen VS TNS
Anyone can learn VS Davethefishguy
Pimplup784 VS randomspot555
Mr. Ralts VS Volteon
thebattler1 VS Goldfan
mclovin VS FemmeFatale

Round 3 This round ends Saturday the 27th
Graceful Shinigami VS Femme Fatale
Randomspot555 VS Dr. Luigi
SheiktheGeek VS thebattelr1
Artica VS Anyone Can Learn
TNS VS Yoshifan22
Shikamarufan VS Volteon
Kevin Garret VS snake 101
Stryke VS Negativenut

Round 4: Ends THIS Saturday!!!!!!!
Stryke VS. snake101
Graceeeful Shinigami VS Volteon
thebattler1 Vs Dr. Luigi
Yoshifan22 VS Artica

Semi-Finals: ENDS WEDNESDAY!!!!!!!!
Graceful Shinigami VS Dr. Luigi
Yoshifan22 VS Snake101


Participants: NOTE: Registration is CLOSED




1. Yoshifan22 (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=96602) (2406-1602-1466: Yoshi) *


2.Goldfan (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=95668) (0860 0889 9070: Imran)*


3.King of Darkrai (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=101221) (3995 7927 0375: Jo)*


4.Dr. Luigi (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=93791) (2492 2374 3776: Angel)*


5.Omegapit (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=108247) (3522-9742-2796: Joe)*


6.Volteon (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=19632) (0430 9106 5366)*


7.JmH Reborn (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=104454) (2707 1680 7839)*


8.Phantom1113 (3351-4779-0274) *He Was Banned, but he is eas to find. If you have him, PM me if he is still banned*


9.DavetheFishGuy (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=107254) (1719-3240-2594: Dave)*


10.Pokecrossbow (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=75908) (1203 6268 0844: Nasser)*


11.Xyden (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=95901) (1933-9652-1858)*


12.Cwidderb (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=107060) (0731 5259 1755: Finbar)*


13.graymonkey0 (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=82719) (3952 4567 9371: Brian)*


14.DarkHunter (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=41337) (5198 1008 4316: Ale)*


15.Eldin (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=94920) (5456-0375-3533: Stu)*


16.RayquazaX (http://serebiiforums.com/member.php?u=86191) (2277 3185 9685: Skyler)*


17.Luneth (0215 8269 0038: Andre)*


18.Baldwombat (2620-9088-1544: Jason)*


19.Mr. Ralts (1332 7431 3008: Adan)*


20.Shard 567 (5370-0511-4790: Shard)*


21.42 (4854 6719 4605)*


22.Femme Fatale (3694 8742 1840: Kary)*


23.Kevin Garrett (3093 3605 9838: Kevin)*


24.Bestgamepearl (0130 0749 6504: JAMES)*


25.BlisseyMaster (0044-2530-0324: Alex)*


26.Graceful Shinigami (4554 0392 8574: Edwin)*


27.ToushiroH95 (2363 4786 0113: DANI)*


28.Zondrina (1032 1408 4994)*


29. Alchemeng (4725 6961 1802)*


30.RayRay443 (4640 0399 3274)*


31.thebattelr1 (Needed: thebattler1)*


32.Legend6491 (Needed: Legend)*


33.mclovin (2878-8945-1570: Hobbzee)*


34.rangersgreg (3147 6143 6947: Greg)*


35.CRAZIE GUY (0817 0404 8978: CRAZIE)*


36.randomspot555 (1418 4659 4203: STONE)*


37.Mareepman (0860 1991 2206: David)*


38.Silver Seraph (2062 5637 7198: Tigro)*


39.Stryke (4210 3629 0078: Chaud)*


40.mrbadguy096 (4124 2244 0300: Mason)*


41.Dr. agon (5112-4882-9050: brandon)*


42.Pimplup784 (2664 1697 8539: Tudor)*


43.Poketamer (4725 9606 2810: SETH)*


44.Iggly (2578-0917-0221: Iggly)*


45.Slysheen (5369 8037 0340: Luke)*


46.snake 101 (4253 1035 4739: snake 101)*


47.Mastadi (5197 9725 6134: Mastadi)*


48.Bookist (2664-3107-0591: Evan)*


49.Greek Pokemaster (1891-2476-2460: Dinos95)*


50.SheiktheGeek (0645 2238 5629: Sheik)*


51.Sumoboi (4811-8459-8946: sumo)*


52.Artica (2492-0764-7052: Artica)*


53.TNS (2664 3324 6202: Stratos)*


54. Zogu (3737 5983 1397: Kai)*


55.ShikamaruFan (5112 0229 6490: Zyzorex)*


56.Roc (3609-1554-6716)*


57.Negativenut (0903 1993 3435: SeXy)*


58.Dbix (0473 8092 8344: Derek)*


59.SuperFlanker (0302 0595 8987: GOLD)*


60.Anyone Can Learn (0774 5651 3735: RYUZAKI)*


61.Cisco1990 (1977 1695 0136: Joker)*


62.Pikawho? (0516 3747 2038: Pikawho)*


63.Sakurai (5112 4560 7849: Nick)*


64. Hauntershadow92 (5455 6423 8935: HUNTER)*










*Note: I put 32 as the number I would like to hit. If this becomes more populare, I will Continue to increase*








*Note2: I will not participate, unless you guys say it is ok. Remember who I am by looking at my sig. So please don't forget that part of registration*









Haunter's Poll Count:




ACCEPTED!






Y: 21








N: 1

Yoshifan22
1st July 2008, 5:15 PM
I will join! and w00t first post!
Yoshifan22
-Yoshi
2406-1602-1466
Edit: You shall join, and you will. That's my vote xD

goldfan
1st July 2008, 5:21 PM
Serebii Username: Goldfan
Ingame name: Imran
FC: 0860 0889 9070
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? Yes, I like you, and you are honest. If you're pokemon have 3 IVs better than mine then so be it! It wont make a difference

King Of Darkrai
1st July 2008, 5:35 PM
serebii name King of Dakrai
ingame Jo
fc check sig cuz im lazy
and yes

Dr.Luigi
1st July 2008, 5:42 PM
im bored so im in

goldfan
1st July 2008, 5:45 PM
Haunter Your in put yourself in, anyone who argues will have to deal with me! :)

OmegaPit
1st July 2008, 5:53 PM
Ahhh go on sign me up,I need,no WANT that Celebi.

Forum name: OmegaPit
IGN: Joe
FC: 3522-9742-2796

Hauntershadow92
1st July 2008, 5:54 PM
Goldfan, the reservation in slot 32 is me just in case. I will let it go if =the votes are against me though. And everyone, welcome!

OmegaPit
1st July 2008, 6:06 PM
Oh I did'nt add whether or not you should be able to battle,tricky,I'm gonna say no because people work hard for there pokemon and breed many times to get them perfect IV's,sorry mate nothing personal.

Dr.Luigi
1st July 2008, 6:08 PM
Thats what im talking about OmegaPit i breed my pokes as welland then hacks come in and ruin us i hate it

goldfan
1st July 2008, 6:11 PM
alright this isnt a debate thread, just give your votes and get on with it!

Volteon
1st July 2008, 6:16 PM
Count me in


Serebii Username: Volteon

FC: in sig X_X
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask): Why not ;D


and...

*Stickies*

goldfan
1st July 2008, 6:17 PM
^^ Thanks Volt (though it's not my place to say it) , If you sticky a tournament, it makes the people in it feel like they have to get they're battles done cos they're being watched. Great to have a true battling mod!

JmH Reborn
1st July 2008, 6:22 PM
JmH will enter this tournament

I battled someone 'like' you...and I guess he didn't have an advantage over mine...so yes come on in and enter...

I can donate prizes as well...PM me and I'll send you a link of prizes that I think will be beneficial and make this pick up steam

We can make Pokes for people enter too...as a prize for remaining active and stuff...

Hauntershadow92
1st July 2008, 6:22 PM
Yay! Thank you Volteon!
EDIT: Ok, JmH. Your post somewhat confuses me...<_<
Ah, wait I get it.
Your Joining
Your letting me join
And you can give PRizes. Ok I got ya!

phantom1113
1st July 2008, 6:31 PM
if it's official I have to join

Username: Phantom1113/ikke
FC: c/p from tl chat
you made it so you participate =D

DaveTheFishGuy
1st July 2008, 7:04 PM
I'm in! This looks awesome!

Serebii Username: DaveTheFishGuy
Ingame name: Dave
FC: 1719-3240-2594
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate?: Yeah, you seem like a decent guy. Just don't do it again! :D

RedPeppers
1st July 2008, 7:11 PM
Laments that he probably won't have a team ready to sign up......

Hauntershadow92
1st July 2008, 7:14 PM
You about 3 Weeks. Idk if you can get a team by then.

PokeCrossbow
1st July 2008, 7:20 PM
I'm sooo in, I don't care if i lost on my first battle anyways ;p worth a shot~
Forum ID: PokeCrossbow.
IGN: Nasser.
FC: ah on my signature o_o;

And yes for Hauntershadow92 to join the tournament, surely we wanna see your powers ;o

Xyden
1st July 2008, 7:34 PM
hmm maybe this will be of some amusement, by all means im in.

Forum Name: Xyden
FC: in sig somewhere
Hauntershadow should participate.

Cwidderb
1st July 2008, 7:48 PM
I would like to participate but if im not good enough feel free to kick me off.

Serebii Username: Cwidderb
Ingame name: Finbar
FC: down below cant remember without looking :S it is in sig though.
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? - yeah be my guest it would be a shame if you couldnt enter your own competition!

graymonkey0
1st July 2008, 7:51 PM
ill join in my fc is brian in my sig

DarkHunter
1st July 2008, 7:52 PM
this should be fun.

Serebii Username:DarkHunter
Ingame name:Ale
FC:5198 1008 4316
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate?:yes, c'mon! at least you are honest.

Hauntershadow92
1st July 2008, 8:24 PM
Cwidderd, I can't do that. That would be mean.

Eldin
1st July 2008, 8:36 PM
Eldin
FC: 5456-0375-3533
Name: Stu

Sign me up Haunter!

rayquazax
1st July 2008, 8:41 PM
Serebii Username: rayquazax
Ingame name: Skyler
FC: 2277 3185 9685
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate?: I don't c y not, as long as ur pokesaved pokemon aren't undefeatable

Luneth
1st July 2008, 9:59 PM
w00t, time to pwnnnnnnn, well, not really.

Serebii Username: Luneth
Ingame name: Andre
FC: 0215/8269/0038
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? Sure, I guess...

BaldWombat
1st July 2008, 10:40 PM
Count me in. All my info is in the sig.

Can Haunter play along? As long as there are no illegal movesets or stats I really don't see why not. However, I don't think it would be right if all your pokes have perfect IVs either. If they're saved and they look like they would when they breed out, it shouldn't be a big deal.

Hauntershadow92
1st July 2008, 10:50 PM
Bald Wombat no worries. What ever is in my sig is what I do. If you still aren't sure, I'm willing to go into a trade or battle. Atm I only have one team as my cmputer is failing at life, so yeah.

Regiman
1st July 2008, 10:52 PM
I shall sign up. Desperate for events for some reason. LOL Convinient too just found my Diamond :P

Mr.Ralts
1st July 2008, 11:37 PM
I'm in, i haven't had a good challenge in a while
Serebii Username:Mr.Ralts

Ingame name:Adan

FC: In my sig

Should HaunterShadow Participate? i couldn't care less if he's good yes

Shard 567
1st July 2008, 11:56 PM
Username: Shard 567
Ingame name: Shard
FC: In the sig

Should Hauntershadow Participate? Why of course. Legal hacks are fine by me.

42
2nd July 2008, 1:38 AM
Umm....im active, dispite in ur tourney I did not get to battle (my guy did not respond, lolz).
Luckily, my new team is finished at last, esp. for Level 100 all.

I, however, accidentally deleted my FC from sig. So, Ill find the thread for the other tourney, copy, and paste.

So, can I join?

Serebii Username: 42



Ingame name: PLOB

FC: Finding...

Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask): No. Lulz, sorry.

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 1:42 AM
Yea, but ur FC is all important. So I can't put u down until i get it.

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 2:06 AM
Yea, but ur FC is all important. So I can't put u down until i get it.

42
2nd July 2008, 3:02 AM
Yea, but ur FC is all important. So I can't put u down until i get it.

4854 6719 4605
Got it.
Would you guys want: Wobboeffet, Deoxys - S, and Garchomp in this tournemnt?None of the three
Why? Wobbufet is only counterable by boosting stats to max then going in for the kill. But thats impossible, because if it taunts you, you keep boosting stats and not attacking.

Speed Deoxys is powerful, and cannot be outran without stat boosts (given nature and EVs are correct). With high stats in other categories, it also can be an attacker or a defender! Its like trying to predict Mew's stats, except its always fast.

Garchomp is uncounterable, like a uber. It can prevent moves from hitting with its ability, and, if there is ANY Pokemon on their team that supports it, it has no weekness! You could use a Ninjask too boost its speed and attack, then make the Garchomp unkillable! I've seen a team that simply supports Garchomp, then brings in Garchomp, and takes out a team of 6, many of which are at max hp!

JmH Reborn
2nd July 2008, 3:09 AM
It looks as though 17 approvals for Deoxys-S
10 Approvals for Wobbufet
13 Negatives toward both...so, so far only Deoxys-S is able to be in the tourney

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 3:11 AM
er there is only 10 yeses for Deoxys and 13 for niehter

EDIT: I see where you are coming form though. There is a reason for 4 choices.

JmH Reborn
2nd July 2008, 3:23 AM
Yeah...on the whole, there are more support for allowing them...although I believe Deoxys-S to still be Uber...I could accept him in this tourney...hell I may even unleash my own ;)

Crobat+Deoxys-S=Epic Win!!!

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 3:25 AM
Idc if he is accepted, all I need is for the people to vote. Orig I was going to ban them, but I thought some people might object so I said nvm I'll let them vote.

Femme Fatale
2nd July 2008, 3:29 AM
Yarr Harr! Something fun now that I'm not restricted to my UU team XD

Username: Femme Fatale
IGN: Kary
FC: 3694 8742 1840 <- see sig also XD
Can Haunter participate? *shrugs* People who think legit hacks are wrong = annoying.

Kevin_Garrett
2nd July 2008, 3:36 AM
Eh, why don't I try and make my mark on another site's official tournament. I'm in.

IGN: Kevin
FC: 3093 3605 9838

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 3:43 AM
Ok, we need about 8 more people then I can increase the members. Wow, not even a day and this is already almost full o_0

BGP_
2nd July 2008, 3:59 AM
Sign me up.
username:Bestgamepearl
Wifi name: JAMES
FC:013007496504

blisseymaster
2nd July 2008, 4:08 AM
Serebii Username:blisseymaster
Ingame name:Alex
FC:In Sig
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? Of course.

RedPeppers
2nd July 2008, 4:17 AM
Yeah...on the whole, there are more support for allowing them...although I believe Deoxys-S to still be Uber...I could accept him in this tourney...hell I may even unleash my own ;)

Crobat+Deoxys-S=Epic Win!!!

Sounds vaguely similar to somone who took the top spot on the shoddy ladder recently. Who also posted his team on smogon. Lol did you know about Husk JmH?

Graceful Shinigami
2nd July 2008, 5:07 AM
Looks fun! Hopefully this tourney won't die like all the other ones I've been in.

Graceful Shinigami
Edwin
FC: 4554 0392 8574

toushiroH95
2nd July 2008, 5:09 AM
Serebii username: toushiroH95
Ingame name: DANI
FC: 2363 4786 0113

just one question : when is the tournament?

Zondrina
2nd July 2008, 5:39 AM
Serebii Username: Zondrina
Ingame name: Pearl ( Prefferably like to be called Zondrina )
FC:1032 1408 4994

Alchemeng
2nd July 2008, 6:14 AM
Serebii Username: Alchemeng

Ingame name: Lance

FC: 4725 6961 1802

rayray443
2nd July 2008, 7:13 AM
I'll join, =D
In-game name: Ash (Rayray)
Fc: In my signature xD

thebattler1
2nd July 2008, 7:26 AM
Wow, a stickied tourney, I want to join

Ingame: thebattler1, (diamond)
fc: I"ll will have it later.

Legend6491
2nd July 2008, 8:08 AM
Fill out this form:


Serebii Username:Legend6491
Ingame name:Legend
FC: in sig.
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask): He's cool so why not

goldfan
2nd July 2008, 8:39 AM
It says applications close on 16th July, this is popular, are we going to wait for 64, or just end at 32. I figured 16th July seems a bit far away, judging by the popularity of this!

mclovin
2nd July 2008, 10:13 AM
Serebii:Mclovin
In -Game-Hobbzee
Fc: in sig

rangersgreg
2nd July 2008, 1:40 PM
Serebii Username: Rangersgreg



Ingame name: Greg

FC: 3147 6143 6947

Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask): Sure, I don't see why not!

Should Garchomp, Deoxys-S and Wobbuffet be allowed?

Garchomp: Unless people use a SandStream and get Sand Veil activated or use a Scarf, Garchomp is pretty easy to take down. Starmie can OHKO, regardless of Scarf or Specs ( On Mie ) So Chomp is a mixed opionion for me, but I say let is stay.

Deoxys-S: A favourite of mine, as I have a 31 IV Speed Jolly one! It is way to fragile, but can outspeed everything, including +1 Yanmega Speed Boost. However, it is way too predictable and fragile as I already said. Let it stay.

Wobbuffet: No way. Far too overpowered and gay. Shadow Tag is a brilliant ability, not letting anyone switch out, and it has collosal HP and Defences. No chance should it be allowed in this tourney. Anyone who uses it is also cheap :P

CRAZIE_GUY
2nd July 2008, 2:40 PM
I haven't battled competitively as of yet but... I'll just have to battle a lot to train up before this! Count me in. Also, if this is really going to be "the best tourny ever to beat all others" you might wanna think about having things like a UU division or other parts and not just one standard match.

IGN: CRAZIE
FC: 0817 0404 8978

randomspot555
2nd July 2008, 2:40 PM
I'm in. 1418 4659 4203, STONE

Graceful Shinigami
2nd July 2008, 3:22 PM
July 16th? That is pretty far away, I wouldn't be surprised if we got 64 people until then. Just think if we got 128!

So it's going to be a standard, random pairings bracket kind of thing? I was always worried about being in those because one loss means it's over! Hopefully there will be some sort of consolation bracket or something. The division idea sounds cool too!

To everyone: Please don't let this one die, it's been stickied. STICKIED. So try to do your battles, and only sign up with the intention of finishing.

Haunter can enter if he wants. I'm not too picky. I just hope someone donates prizes. I would, but I don't really have any prize-worthy Pokemon that I'm willing to part with as of yet!

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 4:12 PM
So it's going to be a standard, random pairings bracket kind of thing? I was always worried about being in those because one loss means it's over! Hopefully there will be some sort of consolation bracket or something. The division idea sounds cool too!

I am thinking of a consolation prize, but nothing so far.



just one question : when is the tournament?


On the 17th. If we happen to not have a full bracket, Ie. 60 people instead of 64, I will extend it because I don't want people to be dropped. I could also change it from elimination to point based, round roubin, etc.



Wow, a stickied tourney, I want to join

Ingame: thebattler1, (diamond)
fc: I"ll will have it later.



Fill out this form:


Serebii Username:Legend6491
Ingame name:Legend
FC: in sig.
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask): He's cool so why not


I need your FCs. Legend, ur saig was removed, so there is nothing there.



It says applications close on 16th July, this is popular, are we going to wait for 64, or just end at 32. I figured 16th July seems a bit far away, judging by the popularity of this!

Well, I did some thinking. If in 1 day this tourny filled the cap of 32, I think in 2 weeks we can hit over 100. I hope.



I haven't battled competitively as of yet but... I'll just have to battle a lot to train up before this! Count me in. Also, if this is really going to be "the best tourny ever to beat all others" you might wanna think about having things like a UU division or other parts and not just one standard match.

If we can't fill the cap of members by the time the deadline approaches, I might make a point-based-round robin match with seperate divisions.

MareepMan
2nd July 2008, 4:15 PM
Kudos on a great idea. Hopefully we'll get 128 and have a real showdown!

I'm in! I'm not great and will probably lose first round but what the hey...

IGN: David
FC: 0860 1991 2206

Silverseraph
2nd July 2008, 4:37 PM
Serebii Username:Silverseraph

Ingame name:Tigro

FC: 2062 5637 7198

Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask):Yes

Stryke
2nd July 2008, 4:44 PM
Forum ID: Stryke
IGN: Chaud.
FC: 4210 3629 0078

mrbadguy096
2nd July 2008, 5:11 PM
i would be glad 2 join in this cup since im in need of celebii y not user name=mrbadguy096
game name=mason
fc=4124 2244 0300
long liv aura gods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

randomspot555
2nd July 2008, 5:27 PM
I'm also willing to donate a shiny untrained starter Pokemon as one of the other prizes. Haunter, please PM me and I'll send a list over to you.

Kevin_Garrett
2nd July 2008, 6:52 PM
The bigger the tournament is, the harder it is to manage people. Some of them end up losing interest and then you have to call matches by default. It also gets messed up when both of the players in a matchup are inactice/gone. That's what killed the last Pe2k tournament.

Also, in terms of the poll, it's strange how more people voted than are currently signed up. That means some random person could have just voted. I hope that won't determine anything because Smogon's vote was unofficially around 46-40 for Deoxys-s being OU. It might be officially tied.

Take into account Garchomp too. I know you are probably like, "Oh, no way!" But that's only because you don't know the facts. Quite frankly, I've never seen anyone give a good reason why Garchomp should be OU. Let me elaborate:

First of all, Garchomp has one of the most broken abilities in the game -- Sand Veil. It cuts accuracy to 80 percent immediately. This is just food for thought, though.

Now let's look at its base stats: 108 / 130 / 95 / 80 / 85 / 102. The 102 is speed allows it to outspeed everything in the 100 base stat range. This gives it its own little niche. The 130 in attack is absolute death and its defenses are remarkable compared to other sweepers.

Let's go into the matter a little deeper. Garchomp has no counters. This is a definition of an uber Pokemon. A counter is something that switches in on something. It doesn't mean, "ZOMG, MEH PORYGONZ ICE BEAM OUTSPEEDS JOOO!!" Porygon-Z gets pummled by any attack Garchomp throws at it on the switch. In order to determine if Garchomp has any counters, let's look at its variations: YacheChomp and BandChomp. ScarfChomp and SpecialChomp aren't as standard. Dugtrio is still cream of the crop when it comes to revenge killing.

YacheChomp is completely broken. With its defenses and Yache Berry to reduce the power of Ice-type moves, it gets a free SD. Garchomp usually comes in on something that can do nothing against it. That means your opponent has to switch out. There's the free SD. If they stay in, you get a SD in anyway. With one SD, Garchomp 2HKOs everything. If it can 2HKO, that means nothing can safely switch into it. Anything study enough to live one hit doesn't have the speed to attack it before Garchomp can hit it again. Anything faster than Garchomp can't survive more than one hit. Mix Sand Veil into the equation and your Ice Beam / Hidden Power Ice loses accuracy on top of the Yache Berry. So it not only has no counters, but it also overpowers.

BandChomp is another impossible Pokemon to counter. It 2HKO everything in the game, once again. Now you can say, "What if the person uses Outrage and then I switch to Metagross and use Ice Punch?" If you need something to take a specific Pokemon down, then it overcentralizes the metagame. Since Metagross is basically the only Pokemon with a decent Ice-type attack to go along with a good attack stat, it becomes the best option. You might also say, "What if I see they Earthquake something and then I send in Skarmory?" Then it just switches out.

I'm not saying Garchomp is unbeatable. As with all ubers, they are possible to beat. It's when the change the way the game is played to beat them is when it becomes a problem. I've used my OU team on the uber ladder a few times. It's surprising to see hwo well standard Pokemon can do against ubers. Look at Rayquaza: It has less speed and defense than Garchomp. It's uber. Now I know it has access to Dragon Dance, but that wasn't the point. Garchomp is very good in ubers and overpowers and overcentralizes OU.

That's it. ._.

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 7:07 PM
Hmm, well, there is a tourny going on here abouit Garchomp, so I'm nopt going to take that thing up here.

As for the poll, idk. It is weird.

As for the members: Everyone, basically, that has signed up thus far are reasonably active. So, no worries so far. And I'll stay on top of people.

goldfan
2nd July 2008, 7:11 PM
^^ FAir Point to make i think. I don't use garchomp and i will be very happy to see it banned in this tournament, to stop it taking up a space in 75% of the entrants team. UNF Gamefreak screwed up on Chomp. I would be happy to see it banned alongside Deoxys-E and Wobb, maybe we should have a VOTE on all 3. But a BOLDED vote like they have on Smogons CAP, rather than a clicky poll. So people who actually give valid reasons votes are counted and others aren't

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 7:13 PM
Mmmmm......Fine. I will rid the Poll up above and make an announcement.

Luneth
2nd July 2008, 7:17 PM
^^ FAir Point to make i think. I don't use garchomp and i will be very happy to see it banned in this tournament, to stop it taking up a space in 75% of the entrants team. UNF Gamefreak screwed up on Chomp. I would be happy to see it banned alongside Deoxys-E and Wobb, maybe we should have a VOTE on all 3. But a BOLDED vote like they have on Smogons CAP, rather than a clicky poll. So people who actually give valid reasons votes are counted and others aren't



Just wait, over half the sign ups will leave if you don't let em use Garchomp, over half the battles I've had with people on Serebii are OU *****s.:)

goldfan
2nd July 2008, 7:41 PM
MY Votes

Garchomp - Banned - As Kevin Garrett Said in so many ways better than i can, garchomp is too big a threat and centrelises the metagame. When battling it you feel obliged to put in at least 2 things that can revenge it, if not 3 and i would like a wider variety of choice

Deoxys-S - Banned Too varied, can pressure stall, and can revenge ANYTHING in the game. Its high speed stat and really varied movepool make it too much of a threat, in so many ways

Wobb - Banned Cheap and it has a broken ability, this thing should never have been moved out of Ubers, it has the ability to take down most sweepers with ease, although this is the one i'd most like to keep

42
2nd July 2008, 7:46 PM
Well, I editted my post with my vote.

dr.agon
2nd July 2008, 7:49 PM
Serebii Username:dr.agon
Ingame name:brandon
FC:in my sig

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 7:49 PM
Just so people don't leave, I will tally the results at the end, and then post them.

Pimplup784
2nd July 2008, 7:55 PM
Might as well join.

Serebii Username: Pimplup784
Ingame Name: Tudor
FC: In sig

Kevin_Garrett
2nd July 2008, 7:58 PM
Garchomp is broken. If you want to keep Garchomp in OU without a reason, that's fine. But it's a better in standard play without it. You no longer need a chain with Bronzong and/or Gliscor in it to be able to have a fair chance of stopping it. Understand that Garchomp in the right hands is extremely deadly. If it stays in OU without an understandable reason, that only shows that you need to see someone using it properly. Uber.

Deoxys-s is borderline Uber-OU, but the Smogon vote actually turned out to be 25-6 for OU. They rejected most of the votes because they were not substantial enough. OU.

Why do you even need to add Wobbuffet to the poll? That's mega uber. :P Uber.

42
2nd July 2008, 7:58 PM
Well, if the people here aren't anti-cloning, I have three donatable prizes (there should be a ton of prizes donated, with a good chance of having 124 people).

Wishmaker Jirachi-Level 100
Shiny Mudkip-Level 44
Shiny Warturtle-Level 50

Ill get info later, but first I must transfer them up. They can't be transferred from Emerald for about 8 hours.
I may also have an UT Wishmaker Jirachi. I have unlimited of the two shiny ones, so I could give multiples of them. If I were to transfer them each day, I could Have
54 Shiny Mudkips and 54 Shiny Warturtles to give out!!!!!!!!!!!
I also have a few other clonables:
XD Zapdos
The Regis, with steel being partially but not completely EV'd.
Mewtwo
The majority of the Shadow Pokemon from XD.

Overall I could donate 108 Pokemon + 1 Jirachi for a total of 109. Just tell me which ones.

EDIT: Oh, and 108 Masterballs/Leftovers Mixture.

Volteon
2nd July 2008, 8:03 PM
Chomp - Banned: It must be fun to battle variated teams. Can't avoid this, it is cheap and uncounterable. Yache, Substitute versions and the one made to resist an Ice Beam to gain speed boost are the cheapest ones. Well, the main reason has been said, so there isn't much to say here. "As Kevin Garrett Said in so many ways better than i can" [2]

Deoxys-S - Okay with either decision: It is average. Passing bossts to it makes it very broken, so I'd rather see it out of the tourney. But if in, I won't mind a lot.

Wobby - Ban: I'd like to face it in a random battle just for fun to see how it goes, but in a tourney, better take it out.

King Of Darkrai
2nd July 2008, 8:19 PM
I find the challenge of beating all 3 of these pokemon quite enjoyable and others must agree, while i understand that they are strong, they beatable as long as you are prepared and would like to see all of them in the tourney

Xyden
2nd July 2008, 8:46 PM
I would much rather not fight the same teams over and over again <_< Ban all 3.

Mr.Ralts
2nd July 2008, 8:54 PM
it's really not that hard to defeat Speed Deoxys just wall him and garchomp sure he seems unstoppable in a sandstorm team because of his broken ability but he can still be stopped. Stop making such a big deal (i don't use garchomp, deoxys,or wobbuffet) Now Wobb he is just broken he will take out a sweeper or 2 i don't feel right fighting him but he can still be stopped.

Kevin_Garrett
2nd July 2008, 9:04 PM
You obviously haven't battled a serious Garchomp user then. It can be stopped. That's true, I said in my post that it can. But it takes away from the metagame because it overcentralizes what you need on your team and overpowers. If it 2HKOs everything, you can't switch in safely. Then you send something in for the revenge kill and it switches out.

Speed Deoxys isn't bad. I vote for OU.

MareepMan
2nd July 2008, 9:08 PM
I think all 3 should be banned. Wobbuffet was only taken out of uber because they changed his ability slightly, but I think he should still be in because of his abillity to takeout 3 of your sweepers one after the other. I've never battled a Deoxys-S but from looking around it seems a monstrous beast and I don't know why it isn't in uber. Garchomp's only real counter in the game is Gliscor/Hippowdon to a certain extent, and I would much rather prefer to run an interesting team than have a team where most of the slots are already taken up trying to counter things like Garchomp. So ban them all I say.

blisseymaster
2nd July 2008, 9:22 PM
Chomp isn't really that strong. True, most Chomps like to attack and then switch until the threats to it are gone and true there aren't that many threats but still. I've never had trouble with them and I don't tend to prepare for it either. I would sacrifice any pokemon to defeat the opponents pokemon if it seemed like a threat whether it was a chomp or something else. I don't mind if anyone uses it.

Kevin_Garrett
2nd July 2008, 9:31 PM
I've never battled a Deoxys-S but from looking around it seems a monstrous beast and I don't know why it isn't in uber.
Both of its attacks are under 300 on the standard set. Infernape is a better mixed sweeper. Deoxys-s is only effective as a late game sweeper.

Graceful Shinigami
2nd July 2008, 9:57 PM
I just don't believe Garchomp is an Uber. It is going to stay in OU. I don't want it banned from this tourney. Reasons:
1. Garchomp won't solve overcentralization. With Garchomp gone, new threats will gain more usage, and become new Garchomps, like Lucario and Togekiss. Garchomp is the biggest threat in OU today. We can't just take it out of OU because of that, it won't help. Stall teams will become more common with the absence of this monster, spiraling into more overcentralization. We can't really stop it, unless you want to shrink the tier into a few Pokemon.

2. Garchomp really isn't that overpowering. The only people I've heard complain about Garchomp are people who have not had any experience stopping it. Substituting Garchomp is easily walled with it only having two attacks. ScarfChomp is stopped by any physical wall, which every team should have regardless of Garchomp. CBChomp just isn't fast enough for a clean sweep, and good prediction skills can win you a free turn. Garchomp just isn't as overpowering as most people say. I have never had trouble facing Garchomp. Garchomp doesn't have any clear counters. With tactics, Garchomp breaks down like a Heracross does to Gliscor.


I'm sorry, but I don't feel it is an uber and should be banned. Isn't DDnite also a large threat? Why aren't we complaining about it? I just hate it when people say Garchomp is so bad, overcentralization always happens. We can't fix it. Garchomp is a giant threat, I know, but we can't move it to Ubers, as it'll get ripped open alive by Arceus and Darkrai. What do you want? We can't just isolate it. Garchomp is OU.

I'll add more later when I can think of more.

Wobbuffet is uber. It stops switching, stalls the match, and can destroy the execution of a strategy. Something that can KO a Pokemon so easily belongs in the Uber tier.

Deoxys is very versatile, with a move pool filled with stuff like Stealth Rock, Spikes, Extremespeed, and moves that rival Starmies. Versatility is what made it Uber, stats are what made it OU. I want Deoxys to be in Ubers. Sure Infernape has better stats, but can it learn Ice Beam? Thunderbolt? Shadow Ball and Pursuit? Deoxys is a tough choice, but I would rather have it in Ubers.

Well, those are my votes!

EDIT: I apologize for getting off topic. I don't want to fill this thread up with spam.

Volteon
2nd July 2008, 10:13 PM
... please, don't make this a Garchomp tier thread or I'll have to close it...
It may sound it's on topic, but it's not.
There's a thread for this in the DP Section.

42
2nd July 2008, 10:14 PM
Hmmm....do I PM hauntershadow for a donation or do I post here?

poke_tamer
2nd July 2008, 10:36 PM
i'l join this thing :D. been needing to see how this team will work

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 10:43 PM
... please, don't make this a Garchomp tier thread or I'll have to close it...
It may sound it's on topic, but it's not.
There's a thread for this in the DP Section.
Took the words out of my mouth. Except for th closing part.

This is why I was somewhat hesitant to do this. I think Garchomp is going to stay and we are going to keep the Poll. I'll give a bit more just to see how this goes. And if it is going weel, BOLD your votes please :/

goldfan
2nd July 2008, 10:46 PM
just wall him

If you try this the Deoxys_E might end uyp pressure stalling you instead, it can be put to very good defensive use. It has very wide move pool

Hauntershadow92
2nd July 2008, 10:59 PM
Hmmm....do I PM hauntershadow for a donation or do I post here?
You should PM me.

@Everyone else: Please do NOT spam. I amde an announcement about ti and if I see anymore spam about Garchomp, Wobbofett or Deoxys, I will report it. When I say spam, I mean I don't want to see people RESPONDING to other people's comments. Whether you think it is wrong or right, I don't want to hear it. This poll is for the tourny, not for you guys to discuss teirs. There is a Garchomp tourny, much like Volteon said, where you can discuss Garchomp there. There is, I think, a Wobbofett thread on Smogon, you can easily search for it, and we have a teir list under D/P CRMT, so you can discuss that there too. Please just post your thoughts with NO response to others. You CAN wish people good luck, you can ask questions pertaining to the Tourny, but NOTHING that is spam, please.

EDIT: You guys can still sign up and talk. <_<;

Femme Fatale
3rd July 2008, 11:43 AM
My votes:

Garchomp - allow
Deoxys: Speed - allow
Wobba - allow

<_< People, STOP trying to ban things just because you don't like battling them. Wobba is the most dangerous one there; Deoxys can't muster the offensive stats to be that effective and don't get me started on Chomp <_< I hate it too but learn to deal with and get over it.

PokeCrossbow
3rd July 2008, 3:42 PM
I vote for allowing all of them: Garchomp, Deoxys _ S and Wobbofett

Since they are challenging pokemons and challenges the trainers if they are trained to beat those types of pokemon.

;p well that what I think.

Iggly
3rd July 2008, 3:48 PM
Serebii Username:Iggly
Ingame name:Iggly
FC: 2578-0917-0221

Slysheen
3rd July 2008, 5:48 PM
Serebii Username: Slysheen
Ingame name: Luke
FC: 5369 8037 0340

snake 101
3rd July 2008, 5:49 PM
I'd like to join please
Forum name snake 101
Friend code 425310354739

Mastadi
3rd July 2008, 6:06 PM
Count me in.
Oh also name is Mastadi in both cases

bookist
3rd July 2008, 7:36 PM
im in
Serebii Username: bookist
Ingame name: Evan
FC: 2664-3107-0591

garchomp: ban
wobuffet: ban
dexoys: ban

42
3rd July 2008, 7:39 PM
Uhhh....the first post doesn't say if it is single or double battle rules.

Greek_Pokemaster
3rd July 2008, 10:03 PM
Serebii Username:Greek_Pokemaster
Ingame name: Dinos95
FC:1891-2476-2460

42
3rd July 2008, 10:06 PM
Serebii Username:Greek_Pokemaster
Ingame name: Dinos95
FC:1891-2476-2460

Greek Poke Master, want 2 have a battle 2 practice for the tourney? LoL.

CRAZIE_GUY
3rd July 2008, 11:09 PM
As for letting haunter battle, it's fine by me. I understand that not everyone has time to breed for good pokemon, and since he doesnt just spam 31 iv's in every stat but sets them up more fairly, frankly most of my legit pokemon have better stats than his :P so yea my vote is BATTLE WITH US SHADOW :3

Hauntershadow92
4th July 2008, 2:58 AM
I added single battles to the first page. sorry about that!

SheikTheGeek
4th July 2008, 3:24 AM
Serebii Username: SheikTheGeek


Ingame name: Sheik

FC: 0645 2238 5629

Hauntershadow92
4th July 2008, 3:36 AM
Ok, your in. BTW, I am in the middle of linking to profiles on the first post, to make it easier to find your opponents when the rounds are posted!

Also, I am still looking for 2nd and 3rd prizes. I have some deals working out, but if you PM me with a prize, please post the IVs and Nature. I need to have good prizes for this tourny. I promise I won't keep the Pokemon for myself, unless you don't mind.

SheikTheGeek
4th July 2008, 4:30 AM
Very cool, thanks.

sumoboi
4th July 2008, 4:31 AM
Serebii Username:idk i have no idea---sumoboi



Ingame name: sumo

FC: 4811-8459-8946

thebattler1
4th July 2008, 5:31 AM
this is a pretty big tournament that will be hard to finish haunter

gregjammer
4th July 2008, 6:58 AM
me!

I have a flygon(ev trained in attack and spd., but has 19 ivs in atk., and 26 ivs in spd.) that needs a new owner as a possible 2nd prize, and a sub-salac-sweep Lucario for possible 3rd prize(22-23 ivs in atk., 27 ivs in spd.)... Accept them as prizes?

If you do, that's another reason to do this: Worthiness of a prize should be shown by the giver entering, and, not-so-hopefully for me, get beaten by the potential prize winner... I sure want to see who is worthy of my spares or bench-warmers in box...

...other than that, like the celebi... I'm in!

Forum name: gregjammer

game name: Greg

fc: 4295-9492-7817

Answer to poll(less controversial version, may be altered from previous one to lessen amount of possible off-topic posters):

All three of mentioned pokemon should be allowed in this tourney!

Reason:

What are examples of pokemon that can counter Deoxys-S, Wobba, and Garchomp?

Answer:

In my opinion, Ghost types that are not also part-poison but do have good defenses like Spritomb and Dusknoir can counter Deoxys-S by terms of typing: Deoxys-S's moveset can't affect Ghosts like the pokemon mentioned on the first part of this sentence, and at most, it can weaken them, but not 1HKO them, w/ Shadow Ball/T-bolt, but Ghost types have ways that often don't directly do damage, but can finish off pokemon like that... For Wobba, same story as Deoxys-S, only Dark-types can work too... For Garchomp, Steel-types that can be immune to Ground that are not weak to Electric types and has good defenses(or any steel type that's immune to ground that's not Skarmory or Probopass)(only one of such exists: Bronzong) can put Garchomp to sleep, but not before taking a Fire Blast, but because of its defenses, Bronzong can take it, but if Hypnosis misses, bye bye, Bronzong!!! But if it hits, it can Rest+Chesto Berry off the damage, then Calm Mind until the turn before it wakes up, then, provided luck is on its side, Gyro Ball w/ a CM boost to OHKO Garchomp w/ the CM boost on Bronzong's side... Of course, other tanks can work as well, if they have recovery moves and stats to back them up, or even Ice Beam(Blastoise, Suicune, etc.) Turns out, there's some amount of tanks in the game to classify those three as "not-so-uber after all"...

Then again, maybe I'm missing the big picture... My facts are made w/o putting least-likely moves into consideration, or maybe...

2nd poll answer: You can enter the tourney, Haunter S. ...

Hauntershadow92
4th July 2008, 3:54 PM
ZONDRINA! You are on warning. Next time you say something that is a response to someone else about the banning you WILL be BANNED from the tourny.

PokeCrossbow
4th July 2008, 3:56 PM
Err, are the three pokemons banned or are they able to challenge? sorry if this is a spam ._.'

Zondrina
4th July 2008, 3:56 PM
Im sorry for sharing my opinion, im pretty sure i was allowed to do that according to my rights but if not in this thread, where do i argue this.

Yoshifan22
4th July 2008, 3:58 PM
I mean cmon guys, talk about this in the "Arguing" section, or something.
Were here to have a simple tournament!

Hauntershadow92
4th July 2008, 3:58 PM
@Pokecrossbow: Until I tally up the results, nothing is banned.

@Zondrina: Volteon pointed out there was the Garchomp tourny where you can dicuss Garchomp. As for Wobbo and Deoxys there is the teir thread on CRMT and there is probably a tourny on Smogon about these. Volteon also said if you continue with this discussion, it will be spam, and he will close this. So I made it a rule to only post your opinion, but do not argue or respond to oterh opinions.

EDIT: I think I will be capping it at 64. That really is enough.

Artica
4th July 2008, 4:12 PM
Serebii Username: Artica
Ingame name: Artica
FC: 2492-0764-7052

Can Hauntershadow92 Participate: yes

Hauntershadow92
4th July 2008, 4:15 PM
Ok, we have 11 spots left, so hurry up so we can start.

TNS
4th July 2008, 4:43 PM
Serebii Username:TNS



Ingame name:Stratos


FC:4597 0852 6562


Can Hauntershadow92 Participate?Of course

zogu
4th July 2008, 6:47 PM
Serebii Username: Zogu

Ingame name: Kai

FC: 3737 5983 1397

Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask): No problem

Shikamarufan
4th July 2008, 6:51 PM
Serebii Username: Shikamarufan



Ingame name: Zyzorex


FC: 5112 0229 6490

Can Huntershadow participate? It's fine by me.

Mastadi
4th July 2008, 6:54 PM
I have 31/31/31/16/31/31 Adamant Stunky that I can give as a prize, it's redistributable

MareepMan
4th July 2008, 9:36 PM
I will only be available from the 19th onwards because I'm on this school trip. Sorry if there is any inconvenience caused, and if it's not acceptable then remove me from the tourney. Thanks

sumoboi
5th July 2008, 2:20 AM
this tourny is gonna take ages to finish with 64 people, u should keep rounds to a pretty short time-limit

sumoboi
5th July 2008, 2:23 AM
this tourny is gonna take ages to finish with 64 people, u should keep rounds to a pretty short time-limit

SheikTheGeek
5th July 2008, 2:28 AM
this tourny is gonna take ages to finish with 64 people, u should keep rounds to a pretty short time-limit

I agree, but its his decision to do so, but its well know that A LOT of people on serebii like to take their time or go MIA in tournaments.

Xyden
5th July 2008, 11:51 AM
I agree, but its his decision to do so, but its well know that A LOT of people on serebii like to take their time or go MIA in tournaments.

Too true...........which reminds me. I need to find Silverseraph and finish our tourney final.......completely forgot about it :s

Roc
5th July 2008, 4:41 PM
i'll join.

Serebii Username:Roc



Ingame name:Roc


FC: 3609-1554-6716


Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask):yes.

negativenut
5th July 2008, 10:06 PM
Yeah lemme get in this!
Forum ID: negativenut
IGN: SeXy
FC: 0903 1993 3435

Dbix
5th July 2008, 10:38 PM
I'm in.
Forum ID: Dbix
IGN: Derek
FC: 0473 8092 8344

SuperFlanker
5th July 2008, 10:45 PM
im in
forum ID:SuperFlanker
In Game:GOLD
FC:0302 0595 8987

Anyone Can Learn
5th July 2008, 11:18 PM
Serebii Username:Anyone Can learn



Ingame name: RYUZAKI


FC:0774 5651 3735

Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask):
Read the ANNOUNCEMENT and post your vote: yup

cisco1990
5th July 2008, 11:42 PM
ill join
fc is in signature

Pikawho?
6th July 2008, 12:35 AM
Serebii Username:Pikawho?
Ingame name:Pikawho
FC: 0516 3747 2038
Can Hauntershadow92 Participate?: Nvm. I don't care. You can join. Everyone else is right, you didn't 31 iv every stat. Just the important ones....>.>
Read the ANNOUNCEMENT and post your vote: Only Wobbuffet

Hopefully it's not too late to join. XP

Mr.Ralts
6th July 2008, 12:40 AM
one more person and it can begin

Hauntershadow92
6th July 2008, 1:42 AM
Guys, i hope you don't mind if I put myself into the tourny now. The votes are basically in my favor.

sumoboi
6th July 2008, 2:48 AM
woot tourny can almost begin, and i have like 20 shinies that im willing to give up for 2nd or 3rd prize, like modest gastly, and shiny sneasel or gyrados idk thats prolly not good enuf

Sakurai
6th July 2008, 5:21 AM
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Ingame name: Nick
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FC: in the signature
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Can Huntershadow participate? Absolutely!
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It looks like I got here just in time! I hope I can get the last opening!

(Oh, ps, I'm back, HaunterShadow!)


EDIT: Oh, I guess that I could give you the Spacial Rend / Roar of Time / Dark Void Darkrai I have, yeah, that event one, for a prize... Or a gamestop Deoxys. Or both!

CRAZIE_GUY
6th July 2008, 5:29 AM
so does this mean we're set to begin?

sumoboi
6th July 2008, 5:34 AM
i can give several events, for prizes, 10 aniv entei, hayley mew, poke ranger phione, paltin mew thingy idk its japanese, and wishmaker jirachi

Sakurai
6th July 2008, 5:34 AM
I would assume so... but damn if this tourney won'ttake forever. I seriously recommend that we recruit replacements. If you'd like, hauntershadow, I could write up an HTML or a Java Randomizer for this tourney.

In fact, I'll go do that now. If you like it or not, whatever, it'll still help me with my scripting!

Whooee, the power of acquiring a sticky-thread.

_____________________________^_____^______________ __________
EDIT: ________________________/ \____/ \_______________________

I have created the script and developed the list. If HaunterShadow92 accepts my truthfulness and the variety, this will be the final ladder:


Omegapit (3522-9742-2796: Joe)
Legend6491 ( [Name AND Friend Code Unknown] )

Eldin (5456-0375-3533: Stu)
Dbix (0473 8092 8344: Derek)

Poketamer (0430 7612 5784: SETH)
mrbadguy096 (4124 2244 0300: Mason)

Xyden (1933-9652-1858: [Name Unknown] )
Mastadi (5197 9725 6134: Mastadi)

Mr. Ralts (1332 7431 3008: Adan)
King of Darkrai (3995 7927 0375: Jo)

Graceful Shinigami (4554 0392 8574: Edwin)
DarkHunter (5198 1008 4316: Ale)

Zogu (3737 5983 1397: Kai)
graymonkey0 (3952 4567 9371: Brian)

BlisseyMaster (0044-2530-0324: Alex)
DavetheFishGuy (1719-3240-2594: Dave)

Silver Seraph (2062 5637 7198: Tigro)
Goldfan (0860 0889 9070: Imran)

SuperFlanker (0302 0595 8987: GOLD)
Luneth (0215 8269 0038: Andre)

TNS (2664 3324 6202: Stratos)
rangersgreg (3147 6143 6947: Greg)

Bestgamepearl (0130 0749 6504: JAMES)
JmH Reborn (2707 1680 7839: [Name Unknown] )

Anyone Can Learn (0774 5651 3735: RYUZAKI)
Greek Pokemaster (1891-2476-2460: Dinos95)

thebattelr1 ( [Name AND Friend Code Unknown] )
Cisco1990 (1977 1695 0136: Joker)

Zondrina (1032 1408 4994: [Name Unknown] )
snake 101 (4253 1035 4739: snake 101)

Roc (3609-1554-6716: [Name Unknown] )
Artica (2492-0764-7052: Artica)

Iggly (2578-0917-0221: Iggly)
Dr. agon (5112-4882-9050: brandon)

SheiktheGeek (0645 2238 5629: Sheik)
Cwidderb (0731 5259 1755: Finbar)

Pimplup784 (2664 1697 8539: Tudor)
Alchemeng (4725 6961 1802: [Name Unknown] )

Yoshifan22 (2406-1602-1466: Yoshi)
Hauntershadow92 (5455 6423 8935: HUNTER)

Negativenut (0903 1993 3435: SeXy)
Baldwombat (2620-9088-1544: Jason)

Dr. Luigi (2492 2374 3776: Angel)
42 (4854 6719 4605: [Name Unknown] )

CRAZIE GUY (0817 0404 8978: CRAZIE)
Sumoboi (4811-8459-8946: sumo)

ToushiroH95 (2363 4786 0113: DANI)
ShikamaruFan (5112 0229 6490: Zyzorex)

Pokecrossbow (1203 6268 0844: Nasser)
Phantom1113 (3351-4779-0274: [Name Unknown] ) *Was Banned. Temporary, maybe permanent, we don\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'t know. If you have any info regarding Phantom1113, please PM HaunterShadow92.

Sakurai (FC Needed: Nick)
Kevin Garrett (3093 3605 9838: Kevin)

Femme Fatale (3694 8742 1840: Kary)
Slysheen (5369 8037 0340: Luke)

Mareepman (0860 1991 2206: David)
mclovin (2878-8945-1570: Hobbzee)

Stryke (4210 3629 0078: Chaud)
Pikawho? (0516 3747 2038: Pikawho)

RayquazaX (2277 3185 9685: Skyler)
Bookist (2664-3107-0591: Evan)

randomspot555 (1418 4659 4203: STONE)
RayRay443 (4640 0399 3274: [Name Unknown] )

Volteon (0430 9106 5366: [Name Unknown] )
Shard 567 (5370-0511-4790: Shard)


I would, however, like to mention that with the possible impact of tropical storm/hurricane Bertha into the United States (Particularly the South Florida region) it may have an impact on my wifi capabillities for a yet-unknown period of time. Maybe I won't be the only one affected. Small note, but yet worthy of recognition.

TreeChar101
6th July 2008, 5:53 AM
Serebii Username:TreeChar101



Ingame name:Ethan


FC: in tc


Can Hauntershadow92 Participate? (Look at my sig to find out why I ask):Yes
Read the ANNOUNCEMENT and post your vote:umm none of them. i hate all of them. wobbefett dumb deoxys - s are to good. and garchomp arent good i blow them up with my frosslass icy wind.

GarchompHata
6th July 2008, 7:07 AM
I want to be in, but my wifi sucks. Ill donate an Adamant Female Medicham for a prize (not very good Iv's, so id say 4th prize.)

Sakurai
6th July 2008, 7:11 AM
Well you can be a replacement, which they'll probobly need because Phantom1113 may need a fill-in (He was banned). But wait for HaunterShadow92 to address your pussy-whining.

Femme Fatale
6th July 2008, 7:28 AM
Phantom1113 can always be easily contacted through Chaos League affiliated websites <_<

snake 101
6th July 2008, 8:48 AM
I've seen several people saying this will take forever, well the majority of people will be out by then anyway. But if you have strict one week deadlines and then decrease them as the tournament goes on because there's less battles to be done it won't take that long.

Alcatraz
6th July 2008, 11:32 AM
Sign me up please.

ING: stephen
Fourm name: SkyNet18
FC: in sig

Hauntershadow92
6th July 2008, 3:45 PM
Sakurai was accpeted. Anyone else afterwards can not enter.

JmH Reborn
6th July 2008, 3:55 PM
Wow...so many cats I don't know who signed up...hopefully this tourney doesn't falter...

goldfan
6th July 2008, 3:59 PM
^^ It won't its sticked and haunter is sensible. Anyone who is slaking will just get kicked out!

Hauntershadow92
6th July 2008, 3:59 PM
I will not let it die.

I will have the matchups ready by tomorrow. Good luck eveyrone.

Oh and if I can't get prizes by tomorrow, as no one is keen on sharing IVs....., I will share some of the good prizes from my thread.

JmH Reborn
6th July 2008, 4:04 PM
We'll see...if it ends on a good note and we all participate...maybe we can get other tourneys stickied made by reputable people...

Hauntershadow92
6th July 2008, 4:08 PM
JmH, any word on good IVed Pokemon that I can use as prizes?

JmH Reborn
6th July 2008, 4:10 PM
Other than the ones I already gave you...nope everything I got has mostly modest IVs...:(

Hauntershadow92
6th July 2008, 4:12 PM
Can anyone post prizes with GOOD IVs? And please post the Ivs with it. Just follow the standard format for a CRMT, just add on IVs. This is need people! We need 2 more prizes.

snake 101
6th July 2008, 4:50 PM
I honestly think the pride of winning is the best prize.

Hauntershadow92
6th July 2008, 4:53 PM
Well, I need 2nd and 3rd place prizes. So please post the format like this:

Pokemon
Eveent (If it is)
OT (If Event)
ID (If Event)
IVs
EVs (If any, not needed)
Move1
Move2
Move3
Move4

Anyone Can Learn
6th July 2008, 6:40 PM
when will you post the matchups?

Hauntershadow92
6th July 2008, 6:41 PM
Tomorrow. As early as possible. Hopefully like 10:00. GMT -4 time. I just would like to add 2nd and 3rd place prizes to the list.

OmegaPit
6th July 2008, 6:56 PM
Perhaps donate PBR pokemon that are given via mystery gift,they might not be all that but it's something for people with out PBR,just a suggestion.

sumoboi
6th July 2008, 7:24 PM
uhh i have hayley mew. palkstin mew, ranger phion and manaphy, wishamaker jirachi, and 10 aniv entei ill give any of em for 3rd prize, some1 has to go on wifi with me so i can figure out ivs

Pimplup784
6th July 2008, 9:34 PM
When does the battling start??

Mastadi
6th July 2008, 11:24 PM
I've got a:

Stunky
Adamant
31/31/31/16/31/31
Pursuit
Double Edge
Crunch
Punishment

which I can offer as a prize. It's redistributable.

Pikawho?
6th July 2008, 11:57 PM
When will we know who we are facing? I'm ready whenever. I just want to know who.

Sakurai
7th July 2008, 1:44 AM
HaunterShadow92, if you'd like to use the randomized list I provided on the top of page 8, I'd assure you it was made completely rig-free, or else I could randomize a new liust for you, or as a last case scenario, I could butt the **** out of the business, and let you as owner handle it. Any way is fine.

Glad to see we're ready to begin though!

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 2:29 AM
I would use your list, but I have to have certain pair ups as people told me they lost their WIFI. So I needed to pair specifics up. So yeah.

Actually, when I come back, I will have the list ready to post.

Also, I need a 3rd place prize, as I got a kick ***** prize for 2nd.

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 2:35 AM
I may be able to find you a 3rd place prize.
I have some friends that trade me some decent Iv'd pokemon, but I`m not sure exactly what will work :/

Please reply!

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 2:43 AM
Get on teh site and we will discuss. As for the matchups AND the poll results:

Yoshifan22 VS Xyden
Pokecrossbow VS Dr. Luigi
RayquazaX VS Eldin
Rangersgreg VS Graceful Shinigami
Mareepman VS Graymonkey0
BlisseyMaster VS Luneth
ToushiroH95 VS Pimplup784
RayRay443 VS Darkhunter
JmH Reborn VS Goldfan
Baldwombat VS Cwidderb
Volteon VS Omegapit
Kevin Garret VS Phantom1113
King of Darkrai VS DavetheFishguy
Zondrina VS FemmeFatale
mclovin VS Shard 567
SilverSeraph VS Greek Pokemaster
Poketamer VS Mr. Ralts
42 VS Bestgamepearl
Dbix VS SlySheen
randomspot555 VS Legend6491
Bookist VS TNS
Hauntershadow92 VS Mastadi
Snake 101 VS Alcehmeng
Shikamarufan VS Dr.agon
CRAZIE GUY VS thebattler1
Negativenut VS Pikawho?
Zogu VS Anyone can Learn
Sumoboi VS Iggly
Stryke VS Roc
Superflanker VS Cisco1990
Sakurai VS Artica
Sheikthegeek VS Mrbadguy096


Poll results:
*Let in*

Garchomp: 2
Wobb: 1
DX-S: 1
Chomp/Wobbo:
Chomp/DX-S: 2
Wobb/DX-S:
All 3: 3
None: 6

Overall Pollers: 15

We could have used more voters, but still.

Volteon
7th July 2008, 3:10 AM
The number means nothing if we don't know if they are there to ban or to allow. EDIT: Ah, saw first post, they're all banned.

Anyways, I've PMed my opponent already. Good luck to all.

negativenut
7th July 2008, 3:11 AM
pikewho battle me =D

Mr.Ralts
7th July 2008, 3:14 AM
So are the pkmn in?

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 3:15 AM
There is the announcement on the first page, but I can say it here too.

All three Pokemon are banned. I only got 15 votes out of 64 people, so, do not get all mad. A lot of people did not vote :/

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 3:16 AM
Hmm, I have no idea who my opponent it 0.0
PERFECT!
Time 2 meet new ppl, W00t!
Xyden, good luck..!

negativenut
7th July 2008, 3:24 AM
so for rules what are the clauses?

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 3:26 AM
Its standard, and they are listed in white on teh first post.

negativenut
7th July 2008, 3:33 AM
i see that, but is there an item clause, all i see is hacked item clause, so i can use 6 focus sashes?

negativenut
7th July 2008, 3:36 AM
i see that, but is there an item clause, all i see is hacked item clause, so i can use 6 focus sashes?

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 3:37 AM
U can use 6 Focus Sashes. Although, ur opponent will be pretty ******. I suggest discussing the clauses before battling. You can always add on clause, just not take away any.

Dr.Luigi
7th July 2008, 3:39 AM
you cant use 6 focus shashes xD can he o_O

Mr.Ralts
7th July 2008, 3:41 AM
it wouldn't be very smart to use 6 sashes due to SR and TS and S also i have sent a message to my opponent

negativenut
7th July 2008, 3:42 AM
haha, i was using it as an example, plus i only have one focus sash :'(

Mr.Ralts
7th July 2008, 3:43 AM
oh ok that makes since

Dr.Luigi
7th July 2008, 3:48 AM
yeah but very annoying <_< and same here i send a PM to my opponent

Shikamarufan
7th July 2008, 4:05 AM
Alright. I won my battle against Dr.agon. 1-0, with 10 Hp left. It was that close.

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 4:07 AM
Not only was that close but that was freking fast! I posted the linup only a few hours ago <_<;

Well congrats on being the first to move on! Thats one step closer to the prize

GarchompHata
7th July 2008, 4:10 AM
ok, I have a hasty rayquaza with awesome ivs for a prize, itll take a few days to get to d/p. pm me.

Shikamarufan
7th July 2008, 4:10 AM
haha. Yeah. It was close, too close that I'm still scared.... <_< >_>...

BaldWombat
7th July 2008, 4:25 AM
PMed my opponent

Sakurai
7th July 2008, 6:22 AM
Hey, maybe I should mention, that you guys... wont have a third place.

It goes from 64 to 32 to 16 to 8 to 4 to 2 to 1 (Obviously).
Unless you can have the two losers that lost in the semifinals duke it out for official third and fourth. Hey, this gives me a great thread idea...

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 6:26 AM
o_O He's right huant..

Femme Fatale
7th July 2008, 6:29 AM
All tournies work like that *shrugs*

PM'd Zondrina, awaiting reply.

JmH Reborn
7th July 2008, 6:30 AM
The losers from the Semis ALWAYS duke it out for the consolation prize in all tournaments in the real world...why would this be different?

42
7th July 2008, 6:37 AM
ell, I alerted my opponent, so, as with all tourneys....

Day 1/9...I thinkz. Come on, its the only way I EVER move on.

Sakurai
7th July 2008, 6:52 AM
Sorry if I came off as an amateur, maybe I've been that 1 in 128,426 who hasn't been in a tourney like that. But thanks.


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42
7th July 2008, 6:54 AM
Anyone up for a practice battle? I am wanting 2 Pwnz sum1, despite that ill probably looz. Lawlz.

rayquazax
7th July 2008, 7:27 AM
ok, I have a hasty rayquaza with awesome ivs for a prize, itll take a few days to get to d/p. pm me.
I'm not very hasty....... I do have good ivs tho :D
lol, my opponent might not e back for the deadline :O

snake 101
7th July 2008, 9:00 AM
Just pmed opponent.

goldfan
7th July 2008, 9:01 AM
As for the 3rd Prize. The Two Semi-Finalists Play a 3rd Place Playoff, this ensures that we aget a "Gold, Silver and Bronze Medal System" That happens in most outside tourneys. And YAY i get JMH. What a great way to start! Been waiting to battle him for ages! *PMs*

SheikTheGeek
7th July 2008, 9:08 AM
PM'd mine.

Artica
7th July 2008, 11:45 AM
pm'd sakurai, looking foward to our battle :)

DaveTheFishGuy
7th July 2008, 12:30 PM
Opponent = PMd

Can't wait for this to kick off!

TNS
7th July 2008, 1:29 PM
I pmed my opponent

MareepMan
7th July 2008, 2:09 PM
I've PM'ed mine too. Can't wait to get this started!

Sakurai
7th July 2008, 2:42 PM
Here comes....

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Got Artica's PM, ready to begin.

Artica
7th July 2008, 3:07 PM
quick question that wasn't addressed in the rules- can you change ur team between rounds?

Luneth
7th July 2008, 3:22 PM
Pm'ed my opponent, should get our battle done tommorow, w00t , this is exciting:)

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 3:39 PM
mclovin, you advance automatically, as Shard lost his DS, game and his USB doesn't work. What a series un bad events. Too bad.

@Everyone: Yes, the two losers from semi-finals will duke it out for 3rd.

@Artica: No, you can not change teams.

Sakurai
7th July 2008, 4:13 PM
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easy come easy go.

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 4:14 PM
So, on the 14th, when will you disqualify the un-battled people?
because I have recently gotten some new pokemon on my team, and I've been meaning to try them ( my new team is 2 - 0 - 0 ), so I may battle my opponent later / last.
That and I'm going camping from the 9th to the 13th... :/

Please reply!

BaldWombat
7th July 2008, 4:14 PM
Wow, that is really sad to hear about Shard. Haven't battled him but he is supposed to be very good.

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 4:17 PM
@Yoshi: I believe DQs qill be on the last day of the round <_<; like it always is...

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 4:23 PM
last day.. of "the round".. meaning?
Lol, I just wondered If I couldn't battle today or tomaro, that I could battle last day :/

Artica
7th July 2008, 4:24 PM
sak im on now- my electric was off for a while, small chance it may happen again though :(

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 4:24 PM
The last day is the 14th, and you have ALL day to battle.

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 4:25 PM
so I can battle on the 14th?

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 4:32 PM
Yes you can.

Oh and people if you win your battle please PM me AND post here! Thank you!

I Also need both opponents to PM me, not just the winner.

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 4:34 PM
Yea, people can lie some times and get away with it <_<
Haunter....

lol j/k, please do so.

Sakurai
7th July 2008, 5:05 PM
Artica, ok, I will be in the room in about 10-15 minutes, if its good with you

Artica
7th July 2008, 5:13 PM
yep thats good- see you then have fun and good luck

Sakurai
7th July 2008, 5:27 PM
Sorry I got off- Getting back on!

Sakurai
7th July 2008, 5:59 PM
Report is....

Artica beats Sakurai...

:(

Artica
7th July 2008, 6:00 PM
Good game Sakurai,

I won.

zogu
7th July 2008, 6:46 PM
Ok. I forfeit the match to Anyone Can Learn as I unknowingly broke the Sleep Clause rule. I seriously thought that his pokemon only has Natural Cure as the only ability, which upon switching out, I made another of his pokemon fall asleep. At least a lesson learnt today.

Good game Anyone Can Learn.

Anyone Can Learn
7th July 2008, 6:52 PM
good game lol

sumoboi
7th July 2008, 7:01 PM
mclovin, you advance automatically, as Shard lost his DS, game and his USB doesn't work. What a series un bad events. Too bad.

@Everyone: Yes, the two losers from semi-finals will duke it out for 3rd.

@Artica: No, you can not change teams.

=[] u cant change teams =[ too hard to decide what ot use though with my massive resevoir of 7 pokemon!

Anyone Can Learn
7th July 2008, 7:04 PM
lol sumboi I only have 17 lol

snake 101
7th July 2008, 7:12 PM
@Artica: No, you can not change teams.

Why not, there's no reason we shouldn't be able to change teams. It's normal to be able to change teams in between rounds in tournaments it's not going to effect anything.

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 7:14 PM
Um, idk. It seems that if you change teams it would be to counter ur next opponent. But if I get enough people asking to switch, then fine.

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 7:15 PM
Well, some people know their opponents teams, so they may of made a team toi completely counter it.
So before they battle, they bring in that team and eisily win, It's not fair..

goldfan
7th July 2008, 7:16 PM
How can you counter your next opponant, if you don't even know what they run, also surely its fair cos they can do the same to you!

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 7:16 PM
Well, some people know their opponents teams, so they may of made a team toi completely counter it.
So before they battle, they bring in that team and eisily win, It's not fair..

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 7:18 PM
Well, I mean if I was paired up against Yoshi, I wouldn't use the team I would be using, I would use the one that counters his team like crazy.

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 7:20 PM
o_O We each battle each other enough to pick up what moves they have, and stats, so all you need to do is bring out a team that can take them down / counter them, and the oturnaents yours.
-_________- so unfair

snake 101
7th July 2008, 7:22 PM
I don't care about about revealing teams of mine because there hard to counter or I can switch. But that's not the point nobody knows what pokés someone is going to play unless you wrote down every opponent you battled and there team and even then they'll have probably change and who can be asked to breed and build a counter team.

Yoshifan22
7th July 2008, 7:26 PM
o_O We each battle each other enough to pick up what moves they have, and stats, so all you need to do is bring out a team that can take them down / counter them, and the oturnaents yours.
-_________- so unfair

goldfan
7th July 2008, 7:28 PM
surely you'd both take teams to counter each others teams, so it would be an even more interesting battle! The no switching teams rule is ridiculous, ppl need to be able to keep the element of surprise!

goldfan
7th July 2008, 7:31 PM
surely you'd both take teams to counter each others teams, so it would be an even more interesting battle! The no switching teams rule is ridiculous, ppl need to be able to keep the element of surprise!

Slysheen
7th July 2008, 7:31 PM
I'm not around on friday through to sunday as am competing in a sporting event. I am hoping my opponent will be able to battle me before then, i will be on every day after school, but not friday this is a post to my opponent and all of my opponents after him ( if i make it through that is ) I'm away every weekend, so don't wait until the weekend as i won't be able to battle then. Hope this isn't to much of an inconvinience.

snake 101
7th July 2008, 7:33 PM
o_O We each battle each other enough to pick up what moves they have, and stats, so all you need to do is bring out a team that can take them down / counter them, and the oturnaents yours.
-_________- so unfair

1. You can change your team as well making it a normal battle rather than one where one of you knows your opponents team.
2. How fair would it be if he knows your whole team he doesn't need a counter team, he knows the stats, moves and pokés on your whole team hardly fair.

JmH Reborn
7th July 2008, 7:44 PM
I haven't battled most of the folks in this tourney, and those I did battle, I don't remember their team, so it's alright...we switch round to round and that is all. The only combantant here that I know all his stuff is Bald Wombat, and like wise...we develop new Pokes to keep eachother fresh and thinking...

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 7:44 PM
AH! Stop arguing! This is why I like to make the desicions myself. But I feel bad 'cause Im not the only one battling.

You guys can make bets too on who wins. Don't actually haave to give up anything, but just say, ya know?

goldfan
7th July 2008, 7:52 PM
^^ LOL, you're liking the smogon more and more haunter, got yourself a tutor and doing predictions on the battles, sounds more and more smogon to me. I will start predicting when we have a few more rounds done!

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 7:56 PM
GOLDFAN! You are not battling JmH anymore.

I had to switch some stuff, 'cause there was some problems. You are battling King of Darkrai.

JmH your battling Davethefishguy!

snake 101
7th July 2008, 8:00 PM
AH! Stop arguing! This is why I like to make the desicions myself. But I feel bad 'cause Im not the only one battling.

You guys can make bets too on who wins. Don't actually haave to give up anything, but just say, ya know?

So what's your decision on the matter bearing in mind that basically all tournaments on this site and others allow you to change teams, the majority of people want to be able to, and there's several advantages and very few debatable disadvantages.

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 8:05 PM
Fine switch teams, I don't really care. Just no scouting of teams, or insta DQ

DaveTheFishGuy
7th July 2008, 8:10 PM
...This couldn't get any more ironic...

How many times have JmH and I battled now?

graymonkey0
7th July 2008, 8:34 PM
i lost to mareepman

MareepMan
7th July 2008, 8:35 PM
Great Battle Graymonkey! I won though. I'm ready to get going in this tourney now!

JmH Reborn
7th July 2008, 8:36 PM
Sheesh...I was ready to battle Goldfan...hopefully we can have some freaking stability

Hauntershadow92
7th July 2008, 8:47 PM
Sorry JmH, I put Dave battling Kod as I thought Dave had Shoddy. This is my fault. I'm sorry.