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Serebii
22nd October 2004, 10:17 PM
http://www.serebii.net/anime/NextOn/104.gifThe Mystery Menace!

Heading to the other end of Mandarin Island, Ash & Co. discover theres a monster in the sewer that is causing lots of problems in the town. When the Mayor wants to blow it up, Joy protests and asks Ash & Co. to help, can they?

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Thriller
24th October 2004, 9:47 PM
Only thing I like about this ep is that its Muks first and so far only Non-League usage

Psychic Venusaur
28th November 2004, 3:48 AM
The mayor of that town was probably my least favorite character in the whole series. I didn't like this episode that much. The mayor sickens me. Did you see Bulbasaur being sent into the sewer all happy, and the mayor calling it weak? Bulbasaur's family is my favorite Pokemon family. Poor guy...

Torkoal Stu
4th December 2004, 12:04 PM
this ep was so boring. i could fall a sleep if i watched it again this is just a filler. but i did like muke apprence. ;361;;361;;361;;361;;361;;361;

MaskedManAbsolkid
4th December 2004, 12:22 PM
I liked this episode, because of the bulbasaur. But the mayor sickens me.

Jesse GS the II
4th December 2004, 6:27 PM
This was kind of an "eh" episode. But what I really didn't like was the final seconds of the ending, where you see Jessie, James, and Meowth still stuck in the sewer grate. At the "To Be Continued" screen - without any change in the video, mind you - we get treated to this little gem:

JAMES: Achoo!
(clank)
JESSIE: The bars!
MEOWTH: We're free!

Apparently, 4Kids didn't want the audience thinking they'd be stuck down there forever or something. Of course, it's obvious it's a dub change because the bars don't even move.

Sharpshooter
9th December 2004, 2:28 PM
This was kind of an "eh" episode. But what I really didn't like was the final seconds of the ending, where you see Jessie, James, and Meowth still stuck in the sewer grate. At the "To Be Continued" screen - without any change in the video, mind you - we get treated to this little gem:

JAMES: Achoo!
(clank)
JESSIE: The bars!
MEOWTH: We're free!

Apparently, 4Kids didn't want the audience thinking they'd be stuck down there forever or something. Of course, it's obvious it's a dub change because the bars don't even move.

.......And?

So what if they slightly alter the final ending - it doesn't affect the storyline in any way.

I'm not labelling you in anyway because you seem happy with the changes but I just don't know why some other people have such an obsession with being so critical on 4kids, yes they did suggest Brock's mother died when she didn't and do make some other manipulations, but really people should be able to understand the story from the images without any dubbing interpretations.

Other than that the episode was a bit ordinary - it's the sort of episode you'd expect to see in Scooby Doo or something. The whole "Bad Guy Mayor" thing has been overplayed for years now.

Jesse GS the II
11th December 2004, 4:05 AM
Actually, I wasn't happy with the change - "this little gem" was sarcasm. It just bugs me that 4Kids seems to think their viewers will get all upset if everything isn't resolved at the end of the episode.

Heracross
11th December 2004, 4:38 AM
Heh, yeah they really don't understand that kind of stuff. Same deal as the fourth movie I guess, they completely changed it around and ruined the whole story because they thought the American fans would want it that way, when in reality they couldn't be more wrong. This small change never really bothered me, but 4Kids attitude towards these kind of things does. Anyway, I actually really enjoyed this episode. I don't really know why, but it was just kinda cool with Ash & co. wandering around in the sewer and the whole 'mystery pokémon' and such, even though it was pretty obvious from the beginning what it was. The mayor was a real jerk, naturally, but that only made it more satisfying at the end when he got what he deserved. ^_^

Sharpshooter
14th December 2004, 7:35 AM
The mayor was a real jerk, naturally, but that only made it more satisfying at the end when he got what he deserved. ^_^


I loved it when he was a kid - it's Gary in disguise! "Quit your Blubbering" Matt Mittler's voice acting's great.

The Big Al
18th December 2004, 12:04 PM
The Mayor is lucky he wasn't arrested for breaking international law. You can't hold foreign nationals (at least couldn't when this was made) without charge and you can't hire private armies to circumvent the police or military. However, this is a kids show.

xsweet_peax
5th February 2005, 10:35 AM
this was a pretty good episode. I liked how Misty got a role near the ending. The only thing I didnt like is that Ash didnt show so much emotion or reaction when she was gone

vulpix
18th April 2005, 11:37 PM
to me this episode had alot of mystery,but i kinda figured the "Mystery Menace" would be a grass type.

PokeFan4Ever7783
17th May 2005, 3:54 AM
I liked seeing how much Ash wanted to save Bulbasaur for once instead of Pikachu. Finally a little change.

Brocksketchum
17th May 2005, 4:01 AM
I loved it when he was a kid - it's Gary in disguise! "Quit your Blubbering" Matt Mittler's voice acting's great.

I thought so too. Doesn't he have the same eyes or something?

The Mayor statue reminds me of something... can't remember what though.

wobbanut
30th August 2005, 12:54 AM
Now that I'm older, I can really see the politics in this episode, with the mayor trying to cover up his past wrongdoings. I wonder if he was covering things up because he thought his bulbasaur was dead and somebody would find it down there? Of course I'm looking at this from an adult's view, and not a kid's show, but I can't help it, this episode is a little unusual in that way.

I do like the part at the very end of the episode, though, when Team Rocket gets out of the sewers with just a sneeze. LOL :D

blackgales
9th October 2005, 11:04 PM
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Aptenodytes
2nd November 2005, 2:58 AM
i really enjoyed watching this episode. the mayor was hilarious at the end and im glad that they didnt blow up the bulbasaur

JONNO.FRESH
15th July 2006, 9:35 AM
A pretty good epi. Nice to see a Bulbasaur that didnt belong to ash. The Mayor annoyed me.6/10

Ashy Boy
2nd August 2006, 6:14 PM
I didn't like the mayor in this filler ep.

PAK Man
11th August 2006, 6:28 PM
I'll never forget this episode aired near the end of May 2000, and that was when I was starting to get sick of Pokemon. That was also the season where KidsWB aired three episodes of Pokemon a week, and this episode aired by itself, so I was mad at that. Not to mention, KidsWB didn't air the Trovita Gym episodes until the following September, so this was their unofficial "season finale." I can see why they lost a lot of viewers around this time. Luckily, I eventually got back into Pokemon.

Anyways, to the episode. I misread a summary of this episode, and I thought that the Mayor used to be Ash's Bulbasaur's previous owner. Too bad, because that would have been a very interesting plot. It was cool seeing Muk, though, and that Surfing Pikachu when the Mayor's tub exploded. Other than that, this was a pretty forgettable episode.

ShinyManafi
21st December 2006, 8:48 PM
Ha, it was a Bulbasaur all along, at least they didn't blow it up

Battra
29th August 2007, 8:59 PM
An ok filler only real highlight was seeing Muk being used, i'm guessing Ash sent Bulbasaur's pokeball to Oak to get Muk since he already had six pokemon with him.

Igottapoo
7th January 2009, 7:41 AM
Eh the mayor was pretty good. This filler was kind of stupid though. Seemed pointless. Cool to see Muk again.

(s.i.e)
26th January 2009, 12:13 PM
^ meh, for some reason i have something against muks, they look nothing like a pokemon should._.

Littlemyuu
7th March 2009, 2:50 PM
Nah..not the best episode, i knew it was a Bulbasuar..stupid Mayor...lol

Blue Snover
17th March 2009, 1:00 PM
I thought the Bulbasaur was cute, the mayor was a bit of a tool.

He knew it was there all the time and he never went back for it, i can't understand why Bulbasaur waited for him.

Ice T. Sackboy
8th April 2009, 4:21 PM
I thought this episode was good because Ash helps out a lost Bulbasaur that's become a mystery.

Tadashi
31st August 2009, 6:33 AM
Ha, I hated the mayor, trying to cover up for his misdeeds... just like all politicians. I liked how the mystery tentacle in the sewer belonged to a Bulbasaur and not a stupid Tentacool or something. I felt bad for that little bulb, but I'm glad everything worked out in the end ^^

Willow's Tara
22nd October 2009, 12:42 AM
I like this episode too, that mayor is a real jerk though, especially since he abandoned that Bulbasaur like that, glad he got what came to him

Lorde
11th November 2009, 6:59 AM
At first I thought that tentacle was a Tentacool's instead of Bulbasaur's whip. I wanted Misty to catch a Tentacool for some reason :/

The ignorant mayor and the ignorant police force made it funny instead of just plain sad. Killing a Pokemon, honestly.

8/10

Ash-kid
16th December 2009, 1:32 PM
I loved to see Muk again.

And this Bulbasaur was giant, i think. wow.

MeowMix
25th July 2010, 11:34 PM
Actually, I wasn't happy with the change - "this little gem" was sarcasm. It just bugs me that 4Kids seems to think their viewers will get all upset if everything isn't resolved at the end of the episode.
They edit everything, don't they?

G50
8th February 2011, 4:12 AM
Really didn't like this filler episode. All along it was a Bulbasaur in the sewer, made the answer not so thrilling... It did have a great ending however. Having Muk in this episode was a very good idea. Really couldn't stand the Mayor though...

.8/100

Painkiller2001
27th April 2011, 5:56 AM
At first I thought that the Pokemon was going to be a Tentacool/Tentacruel at first.

But then, when the "Mystery Menace: was about to be revelaed, I thought, "maybe it's a Venusaur instead? It's vine-things look too green to be from a Tentacool/Tentacruel..." I was pretty close! It was a larger-than-ususal Bulbasaur!

Zoruagible
5th September 2011, 2:08 PM
I liked this episode, but I didn't like the mayor. I'm sure that the Bulbasaur will be treated well at the Pokemon Center though

Vernikova
15th November 2011, 12:12 AM
Meh episode. The mayor was a douche for the whole "I only care about the election" stuff but the end with the water erupting was dumb. I guess the writers couldn't get out of that hole that they dug there

AquaMilotic
28th November 2011, 8:22 PM
Seeing Ash in prison was funny, especially when I showed that episode to my mother (who likes Pokemon, but not as much as me). I enjoyed this episode, 8/10.

Blessed
31st January 2012, 12:32 PM
The mayor was such a jerk in this episode!

Calamity™
1st February 2012, 11:50 PM
I really liked the Mayor's character. He was made to be hated and that's what most of us viewers did! The story of that Bulbasaur was actually quite sad, but the episode as a whole was sort of boring. I don't care much at all for Muk, so I'm not really bothered that it made an appearance...

Ne0n-H!tch'd
6th March 2012, 7:15 PM
Team Rocket's was at their FUNNIEST PEAK in this episode.
This Episode was amazing!
One of my favorites!

Aquarelle
2nd April 2012, 11:16 PM
I really enjoyed seeing Muk in this episode. The part where Team Rocket was trying to look scary was funny. I felt bad for the large Bulbasaur for being abandoned in the sewer for so long. I was glad to see that the Bulbasaur was still angry at the mayor, because at first I thought it was going to forgive him. It was nice that Nurse Joy said she would take care of Bulbasaur.

7threst
7th September 2012, 9:55 AM
This episode must be the most hilarious, memorable episode I know from the Orange Island. Just that corrupt mayor and his own private contractor army is great. This episode certainly made corruption and cults of personalities humorous.

Tuskie Tyrant Yoko Kurama
27th December 2012, 4:43 AM
The mayor was annoying to me and he deserved to be sent off flying. If only Nurse Joy would have slapped him. xD And I thought that was a Venusaur the whole time. Well, the vines made it seem that way.

PokemontrainerY
14th July 2013, 3:00 AM
The mayor of Trovitopolis was a total jerk in this episode, I'm glad he wasn't forgiven for what he did. The Bulbasaur is this episode was a huge one.
it's sad that the mayor has abandoned it in the sewers, but It's nice that Nurse Joy said she'll take care of the poor Bulbasaur.

Painkiller2001
15th October 2014, 4:19 AM
Didn't like the mayor in this episode, he was way too full of himself.
Glad he got what came to him at the end.