To Thine Own Pokemon Be True! (592) [Archive]

pokefan16

23rd April 2009, 2:25 PM

Noooooooooooooooo! * until my voice fades away *

What the Hell is wrong with the writers Sinnoh Saga so far is great and now they have to return the release thing again. What the Hell!

Man!, I just can't stand it. Ambipom was an Awesome pokemon, a great appealer and battle. Why!?!?!?!

No Ambipom in the new Movie!
The writers have some serious monkey issues!!

Aggh! I can't take it anymore I'm so mad and also sad too....

Well I can hope for is that Ambipom can be borrowed just like Charizard/Squirtle especially in the Grand Festival

To all who watched the episode

Specifically, What did Ou tell to Dawn about Ambipom? Is he gonna borrow it for a while for a tournament? Please Details even I can see the episode still I can't understand japanese.

and later maybe before the movie release an episode where ambipom is returned ( still hoping she'll come back )

Any Update from the Movie 12 Site? is Ambipom still there or not? I can't understand japanese too.
Agh!!!

shac

23rd April 2009, 3:28 PM

The writers do not really like the monkeys, do they? First primape, now ambipom.... Hope chimmy does not follow suit!
Are they really out of ideas or what?.......... I mean rehashes are good and all but there's just that much you can accept in one saga. First chimmy gets left out by its trainer, then mamo pulls a zard, then muku evolves a swellow-evolution and now ambi is following primape. Way to go for originality!

One thing though...........what does it mean when ambi leaves its pokeball? Does it mean it is getting released? Can Dawn have a pack of six on her now? OR, does the sixth pokemon gets transferred to Rowan if she does intend to catch that many?

TurtwigFan1

23rd April 2009, 3:35 PM

What I want to know is whether she actually released it, or just handed the Poke Ball to Ou. Because if it's the latter, then technically Ambipom is still hers and has a tiny, miniscule chance of returning.

Another thing that has really ticked me off about this is that Ambipom left on a bad note. She lost her contest, I'd have loved her to have won one before her departure to Vermilion.

And now it's time for Random Speculation:

As Ambipom has gone to Kanto with Ou, maybe Ash will visit her on his back from Sinnoh? Fat chance but it's worth a speck-yoo-layshun!

So all in all, I bet it was a good episode but Ambipom's departure has really dampened my spirits. I'm going to miss her and she was a great Pokemon, whether she was with Ash or Dawn. From what I heard, Ambipom chose her own path because Dawn let her choose what she wanted to do. So at least Ambipom chose and the writers didn't make Dawn seem like a complete and utter idiot.

Goodbye Ambipom, and we'll surely miss you! ;424;

ShinyCharyZard

23rd April 2009, 3:51 PM

Wait wait...She went to Kanto? That all seems very convenient...

I think we'll see her again. Especially if they move the BF to Johto. That way, they could get the ferry from Vermillion.

Korobooshi Kojiro

23rd April 2009, 3:56 PM

I don't think Ambipom left it's Pokeball.

Dawn held out her Sticker-Covered Ball and a Ping Ping Ball and asked Ambipom to point to which one it wanted to do. I think she probably gave Ou the Pokeball.

Stabberz

23rd April 2009, 4:08 PM

The writers are the most idiotic people ever, why is the Monkey always gone,( Do you get the meaning of this.

Korobooshi Kojiro

23rd April 2009, 4:14 PM

Well, I hear apparently James called Brock the "Notched-Hair Twerp".

Brock4Gizamimi. :P

pokefan16

23rd April 2009, 4:21 PM

Any Update from the Movie 12 Site? is Ambipom still there or not? I can't understand japanese.

^ASH^

23rd April 2009, 4:32 PM

At first when I read it did leave, I was really upset... but after I watched it... well, I'll just copy-past my post from Bulbagarden:

Wow, I totally loved this episode so much that I can half-forgive them for that. I'm so in love with this show that it's really crazy! I cried... my Ambi...

After watching this episode, if to ignore the fact we had no build up except previous episode... (and how there was no reason to do that) they actually did great this episode!

There sure was emotion there! From the moment Dawn was freaked that Ambi disappeared it was obvious Dawn began to understand it actually wants to do ping pong... and then when the twerps find Ambi they find it playing ping pong (against the wall XD) and Dawn tell the group Ou wants Ambi on his PPP training center...

Dawn ask Ash what he'd do... Ash has a flashback of Aipom stealing his hat during the Kanto GF (we see Max there), catching Aipom, Aipom evolving (which Ash didn't even see so it's ridiculous he has a flashback to that), and Ambipom in Contest with Dawn
Earlier in this episode Jessie has a flashback to her using Aipom in the unofficial Contest (I think she blames Meowth for the lose and says if Aipom stayed with her she could win)

Ash and Brock tell her the trainer has to put the Pokémon's feelings above all (or something like that)
Dawn agree but it's so obvious she wants to cry now but force herself not to
The next day Ou is about to leave but Dawn stop him and ask Ambi what it'd like to do

Dawn hand Ambipom a Pokéball in a Ball Capsule (which symbolise Contests) and a ping pong ball - and she tell Ambipom to choose what it'd like to do
At first, Ambi takes the PP ball but immediately after that the Pokéball too... and then Ash and Dawn's hats... and it begins to play with these things
At first I thought Ambi tried to say it loves all these 4 things (Contest/PPP/Ash/Dawn) but it wasn't the case... Ambi returned Ash and Dawn their hats, became serious and thought about it... then it looked like it decided so Dawn handed her hand to it and Ambipom returned her the Pokéball but kept the PP ball - which means Ambi chose PPP over Contests

Ou tell the twerps his training center is in Vermilion City and that they can visit whenever they want (something like that)
Since Ambi clearly chose PPP over Contests, I doubt we'll ever see it again since Dawn probably won't want to take it even temporarely from PPP to do Contests which it don't love as much as it used to... but since they actually bothered to tell us where Ambi is exactly in - who knows... Ambi might watch Dawn in the GF on TV (like Squirtle in Johto League) and Ou will contact Dawn and send her Ambi... (we can assume Dawn gave Ou Ambi's Pokéball, the Pokéball in Ball Capsule wasn't necessarily Ambi's, it was just used as a symbol of Contests)

So actually, that was a great episode in my opinion and while I wouldn't expect that I hope and think we might see Ambi again... since after all they bothered to let us know where it is now
And it sure cares about Ash and Dawn (and I think it still loves Contests, even if less than before... it did have to think for a moment until it chose PPP over Contests)
I really like these random competitions like this PPP and Pokéringer... all these things should be recurring and not once in a few years...

I'll miss Ambi... at least they did this episode as good as possible... I think
Oh and Jun isn't with the twerps at the end so I guess we're supposed to assume he left after the PPP competition ended

Thriller

23rd April 2009, 5:10 PM

So what exactly happened? Did Dawn release it or give it to somebody?

Either way, this pisses me off.

ShinyCharyZard

23rd April 2009, 5:12 PM

She gave Ambipom to Ou for Ping Pong training. He has taken her back to Vermilion City and said that the group can go see her anytime. Which, unless they get the ferry from Vermilion to Johto, won't happen.

and trust me, you aren't the only one who's p***ed off. :(

Thriller

23rd April 2009, 5:15 PM

I don't see how that would be difficult, Ash lives in Kanto after all. In addition, there is the Pokemon transfer system.

... Buizel, I hope you realize it is your fault with your ugly face.

AdvanceX

23rd April 2009, 5:17 PM

I f'ing RAGED when I read Ambi left to play Ping-Pong... I raged SOO HARD!! WTF writers!?! WTF

trixie08

23rd April 2009, 5:18 PM

Those writers are sadistic, man!! Ambipom was my favorite Pokemon on Dawn's team and now they decide to get rid of it and give it to some random guy for ping-pong?

This is worse than the time I missed out on my chance to chat with Rainn Wilson. Well, maybe not as bad, but still, why Ambipom?!??!??!!

Thriller

23rd April 2009, 5:22 PM

I'm just glad it didn't leave for the same reason Primeape left. After winning the competition it was given to that dude to become a "REAL" P1 Champion. I guess it was only a fake P1 Champion I guess.

ShinyCharyZard

23rd April 2009, 5:27 PM

So it loves Ash, then loves Contests, then loves Ping Pong?...Whats next? While in Vermillion, are they gonna make it learn Water Pulse and let it join the Squirtle Squad? Then maybe y'know, it could join up with Pidgeot in Viridian Forest and protect a bunch of Aipom from a Primeape?

AuraMaster

23rd April 2009, 5:28 PM

Anyone notice how the monkeys are always released? Primape by Ash. Chimchar by Paul and now Ambipom by Dawn. The writers are raceist towards Monkeys!

AdvanceX

23rd April 2009, 5:35 PM

Anyone notice how the monkeys are always released? Primape by Ash. Chimchar by Paul and now Ambipom by Dawn. The writers are raceist towards Monkeys!

QFT! I was just about to mention that

S.Suikun

23rd April 2009, 5:46 PM

I'm calling it while it's still hot off the grill - This thread will go down as one of Serebii's Greatest Hits. We haven't had a true main team release since Vulpix, and that was well before this forum existed, so this is a nice glimpse at what could have been. It's already got more than its share of classics, which is hard to accomplish so soon after the Piplup/Everstone fallout. Truly, we are living in a golden age. We've already got our share of cursing the writers (I always see this as if "The Writers" is some mysterious multi-headed entity that controls the flow of time and space) and accusations of "racism".

Also note that I will never, ever express my opinion of the departure, just like that anonymous neutral nation that will remain unnamed. The one where Swiss cheese comes from (Oops!). Review on actual episode content later, because somebody has to (though I give props to ^ASH^).

^ASH^

23rd April 2009, 6:13 PM

Review on actual episode content later, because somebody has to (though I give props to ^ASH^).

Heh, thanks ^_^
I do admit however - I did freak out when the speculation about all this began... but I think thanks to that I was prepared and accepted this before the ep aired... when I read it did leave I was upset but watching the episode caused me to change my opinion (but I'd prefer if it did stay...)

I write mainly on Bulbagarden... maybe I should begin to post regularely here too XD
Oh and it's fun write in details about episodes, this is another thing I might keep doing from now on
A few "little things" I didn't write about in my original post but are too great to ignore:

- Once again Brock and James sit together in the audience, once again they understand each other and once again they're hugging... and Pip look at them embarrased...
- Jessie complain about Marowak using its bone while Meowth isn't allowed to use the... paddle? (that's the word for that?) that was funny too XD
- Ash getting the PP ball to his face XD
Oh, did I say how I love this show? all these little things really entertain me alot XD
Another "little thing" that I liked was during the competition, Ambi patted Dawn on the shoulder when Dawn became too nervous
- Ash getting nervous (that's rare, it's usually Dawn's thing)
- Meowth destroying the ball and cause Jessie to lose XD

And about Ambi, the fact they bothered to mention where it is and which location they chose make me believe we might see it again, but better not expect it... more copy past...
Actually, if to go by the games (which the anime likes more than ever now) if one wants to go to Johto from Kanto, an easy way is take the ship from Vermilion to Olivine (which just happens to be the city of a previous Gym Leader who returned in DPt)
Since it's obvious between the end of Sinnoh and beginning of new journey, like always they'll go to Pallet Town... they'll have to get from Kanto to Johto (assuming they go to Johto next, assuming there are remakes)
And as I said, that's the easy way to do so in the games (didn't May taking a ship from Snowpoint to Lake Valor also fitting with the games? I didn't play DP yet...)

milenadrg

23rd April 2009, 6:13 PM

I am still in shock because Ambipom leaved. Such an awesome Pokemon. Now when Tall Purple Monkey is gone, nothing will be same and that cool like it was before... :(

shac

23rd April 2009, 6:19 PM

This was really a very bad twist from the writers.............Why develop a character this much if you just want to let it go in the end? I mean, it would have made sense if aipom was not Ash's to begin with and all those histories of choosing contest over battling never happened. So aipom was just a plot device to bring Buizel in Ash's team? How very silly!!
Now what will Dawn do? She only has this stupid penguin, a stubborn pig and ice-skating buneary!?! Nothing but water and ice!Oh and pachi is there as well....hmmph! I dunno about you guys but I feel she needs to get someone and soon!

Sparkleo

23rd April 2009, 6:40 PM

I have mixed feelings for this episode.

It stood out as Ambipom stole the show and helped Dawn at the finals. Also, points for an original plot since we've seen a lot of Battle and Contest related stuff. So kudos to them.

Unfortunately, I will never forgive the writers for writing off Ambipom like that. I always like the moments when the Pokemon are given a choice to really think about. I understand Primape from Kanto being written off since it never played a big part in Ash's team. But Aipom/Ambipom was traded for Buizel and was a great plot Contest Pokemon. *sigh* It must've saw Ping-pong as another fun thing to do, especially with those hand-tails, but seriously?!

I can't say anymore...

pokefan16

23rd April 2009, 6:40 PM

Ok I Just watched the episode

It was a great episode actually,they put some flashbacks of ash and also with jessie. and Also it almost made me cry (ALMOST). I'm still ****** of also to the writers of letting ambipom leave and chose ping pong over contests. Why do i get a feeling that Ambi might pull of a Squirtle/Charizard thing in the future especially in the GF.

BTW, I'm sad also that Dawn's others pokemon didn't had an appearance in the episode, they shoul've let pachi,Mamo, and buneary come out just to say good bye. They will wonder where ambi go if the came out in the future episodes.

I wonder what The Intro will be like in the next episode excluding ambipom

kris198921

23rd April 2009, 7:01 PM

ok so ambipom left no big deal dawn will get a new pokemon and you will forget all about the two tailed monkey. there are a lot better pokemon than ambipom anyway, and i had a feeling this was going to happen since Dawn's team wasn't balanced with 2 normal types anyway so it only makes since that she lets the weakest link go.

Electivirus

23rd April 2009, 7:08 PM

One has to wonder whether the writers did this just to elicit epic lulz from the overreacting fanbase fandumb.

If so...bravo.

Brock and James bonding again? Nice.

Well, what do you know? Ash is still the butt monkey of the series.

CyberCubed

23rd April 2009, 7:46 PM

Man, Ambipom is going to be remembered as the Pokemon with ADD, with its changing its mind all the time.

00poke_maniac

23rd April 2009, 8:04 PM

Was it just me or did the episode seem to skip some things due to it being a 30 min. program?

mitchman_93

23rd April 2009, 8:36 PM

No they did that I think cause all the mains were left out of the finals. Anyway they say that Ambipoms leave was untouching and cruel just waving. It was actually pretty touching. Both dawn AND ash made the decision and I liked that cause both of them have rights over it. I love how it played with that hats and the touching music Eteboh flashbacks had. But man that Okido quiz was hilarious. Good to see it back.

S.Suikun

23rd April 2009, 8:45 PM

This episode is sure to teach kids plenty of lifelong lessons about how friendship is fickle and that the phrase “best friends forever” is about as false as “You’ll always have your family”. Heck, since I don’t even know who's on my Serebii friends list, one of these days I actually will go through and “prune” the list (if you get axed, don’t be offended; it just means I don’t like you). It’ll just like releasing Pokemon! Anyways, this episode was about Ambipom once again changing life partners, officially making her the Pokemon equivalent of Elizabeth Taylor. They also both resemble apes.

Now, ping pong is one of China’s less useful pastimes. Personally, I prefer their playing with guns and toxic children’s toys. It was apparently stolen from the British according to Fact-ipedia, potentially outdoing Serebii Forums as the biggest waste of time the British have ever invented. Totally true stereotypes aside, this episode turned the sorry excuse for a sport on its head, making it both dramatic and exciting, if obviously rushed at points. I really do love it when my ping pong ball catches fire, don't you? I felt a little robbed that we didn't get to actually see Ash and Dawn face off, but obviously Ash wasn't this episode's focus.

I liked Jessie's new outfit and Bono glasses, just to give her a break from the Jesselina outfit. Her use of Meowth may be some foreshadowing in combination with the ending of DP123. And I did appreciate her recollection of using Aipom in that faux contest. Obviously the whole drama and emotion of the event was exaggerated to such extremes (and I don't know why Dawn would leave Ambipom by itself for 5 rounds before getting a new paddle), but I felt that fade-to-light transition from the arena to Ambipom in the Pokemon Center was very well-done.

Then of course, we have the farewell. I recall being quite annoyed by Aipom's antics in Battle Frontier, but nearly 150 episodes later, I came to quite adore the thing. I'm going to abstain from giving any personal opinion of whether Ambipom should have left, but I will say that it's goodbye was written well with the juggling hats and balls. Way better than Primeape, which was totally spontaneous if you recall. Might I add that the opening next week is going to look very awkward. Buizel having double the space in its fade sequence should be a real "thrill".

Blazing Charmander

23rd April 2009, 8:47 PM

I haven't watched the episode yet (and don't know if I will), but I viewed the pictures without reading any posts about it. Although I was half-expecting Ambipom to leave like all the speculation suggested, my heart seriously dropped when I saw the picture of her boarding Ou's van. I've been around long enough to witness all the Pokemon releases from the main characters, but i'd probably say that of Ambipom has hit home the most effectively out of the lot.

I dunno, maybe all of the development of the Pokemon since it was an Aipom in the Battle Frontier saga makes me feel that we've been taken for a long and wasted ride. I have been on these forums since long before the Battle Frontier and I do remember how everyone used to slate Aipom for being such an annoying character at a time when all it did was tag along with the group and steal Ash's hat. However, we all knew that her late capture signalled a likely new evolution in Sinnoh for which we were all excited. Her affection for Ash and interest in contests were nice quirks too. I cannot therefore see why so much development has been poured into the little primate when it all amounted to this.

That's all i'm gonna say on the matter and i'll have to watch the episode to have a full opinion. Phew... other than that, though it looked to be an enjoyable episode, from top-notch animation courtesy of that man Iwane yet again, to some great character mannerisms.

shaq-attack

23rd April 2009, 8:53 PM

I hardly watch the show anymore, but when I heard about this it seemed to me like Ambipom had been abandoned by both Ash and Dawn, which was a little upsetting...

Thriller

23rd April 2009, 9:15 PM

This episode is sure to teach kids plenty of lifelong lessons about how friendship is fickle and that the phrase “best friends forever” is about as false as “You’ll always have your family”

Richie, Samurai, A.J., Harrison, and everyone else Ash hasn't seen or heard from in years, despite pledging to be "friends forever" nod in approval.

Why would she have been a plot device to put Buizel on Ash's team? Why couldn't Ash have just been Buizel's O.T. to begin with? What would Zoey and Kengo think of it?

Speaking of, what happeend to Jun and Kengo at the end? Iirc the both of them were a part of the ping-pong competition. I'm guessing Kengo will just be heading off on his own but what about Jun?

S.Suikun

23rd April 2009, 9:23 PM

I hardly watch the show anymore, but when I heard about this it seemed to me like Ambipom had been abandoned by both Ash and Dawn, which was a little upsetting...
Define "abandoned".
Why would she have been a plot device to put Buizel on Ash's team? Why couldn't Ash have just been Buizel's O.T. to begin with? What would Zoey and Kengo think of it?
Honestly, I don't feel the writers thought this far ahead when Aipom was caught or even when Aipom was traded. So I don't feel "plot device" is the appropriate term for Aipom. Obviously it had been in planning for a bit, but it wasn't Aipom's sole purpose.
Speaking of, what happeend to Jun and Kengo at the end? Iirc the both of them were a part of the ping-pong competition. I'm guessing Kengo will just be heading off on his own but what about Jun?
I don't believe Kengo was ever participating, and he was seen leaving at the end of last week's episode. Jun, however, seems like he was just forgotten about midway through the episode, which is odd given his excitement for this tourney. As stated, they had to cram a hell of a lot into this episode, and thus a few things felt left out.

Korobooshi Kojiro

23rd April 2009, 9:33 PM

It was Ambipom's decision to leave 100%. Dawn gave it a choice, and it picked Ping Pong. If anyone abandoned anyone, it was that damn dirty ape getting on that greyhoundour bus to head to Kanto.

Well, you know, and probably eventually switching to aerial or aquatic transportation.

So it's really not fair to accuse Dawn of being a heartless *******, I mean, if you take her in the context of being a real person and not being dictated by a script. But I agree with ^ASH^, the mention of an actual location makes it a bit more likely to appear again. And since Sinnoh's done rather well with bringing back old characters, I'd say Ambipom probably won't be limited to Glory Days and Spurts like it's primate predecessor.

I don't believe Kengo was ever participating, and he was seen leaving at the end of last week's episode. Jun, however, seems like he was just forgotten about midway through the episode, which is odd given his excitement for this tourney. As stated, they had to cram a hell of a lot into this episode, and thus a few things felt left out.
Barry taking off isn't too bothersome, considering it fits in with his character. I mean a goodbye would be nice, but I certainly can excuse him not getting a big goodbye scene.

Shiny pokemon lower

23rd April 2009, 9:44 PM

I aren't able to see the episode pictures yet, but I saw it in the character bios.
Why did they do that? Because it has gotten to much attention?

I think it is bacause of the a bit shafted Bunary and the case that she had two normal types. But they could solve the problem in a different way.

I think Kenny won't react to much, but Zoey will be angry at Dawn to letting that happen. Since it has been a long time since she last came, mabye she will return soon?

martianmister

23rd April 2009, 11:38 PM

Barry taking off isn't too bothersome, considering it fits in with his character. I mean a goodbye would be nice, but I certainly can excuse him not getting a big goodbye scene.

I think he's still with them. Probably, we'll see him in the next episode.

ShinyCharyZard

24th April 2009, 1:01 AM

Ok, so i finally watched the episode (props to the 'tube' guy for quality btw) and I gotta say that I am even more PO'd than I was before. What is it with random people in the Pokemon world just walking up to someone and saying "Oh, can i have you're Pokemon? It'd be great at this"...I mean, c'mon. Who would really give up their Pokemon to someone they didn't know? I know I wouldn't just give my cats away. Ambipom leaving to play Ping Pong was a ridiculous idea and whoever came up with it needs shooting (i felt this post need a little over-reaction).

But on a lighter note, Jessie looked so good in that outfit...and I mean gooood.

Oh! I almost forgot...Brock + Piplup = Win.
http://i41.tinypic.com/kainwp.png

Almighty Zard

24th April 2009, 1:07 AM

well it just goes to show that no matter how much development a pokemon gets if the writers want it gone it will be gone.

As far as Barry goes he probably needed some sugar to feed that hyped up energy body of his, so it's easy to see why he ducked out mid episode.

Mythic Mist

24th April 2009, 3:27 AM

This episode tried too hard to make Ping-pong interesting. And though I think putting Iwane to work on a boring episode like this is a waste, it makes sense since this thing's only redeeming factor was the nice animation.

And while many try to justify Ambipom's departure with "Oh it wasn't that interesting anyway", "After Dawn got it it became completely boring", etc. etc., they fail to realize that it's not just a personality that can make a pokemon it's also the battles its in and the style of battle it uses. Ambipom was one of Dawn's best battlers and with it gone all Dawn has are a bunch of cuteys...who in all honesty aren't that much more interesting than the "boring" Ambipom.(Except for Mamoswine obviously, or should I say "Superficial-development-swine" lol!!!...v_v)

So yeah, this was disappointing but I shall move on

uber gon

24th April 2009, 3:35 AM

Maybe Buneary will evolve later on to compensate. Well that, and Dawn catches something new.

Charizard Lord

24th April 2009, 4:40 AM

This episode dissapointed me. To me, it seems that Ambipom didn't even leave for a good reason. Ping pong? Seriouisly? That monkey has been doing contests and battles throughout Sinnoh and it decides to leave for something that its liked for, what, two episodes? Plus, yet again, one of the main characters gave a Pokemon to a total stranger. Remember Ash and Primape? Those writers really seem to hate monkeys...

But thats not all. It also seems stupid that the writers have spent so much time developing that pokemon to just throw it away like this. Ambipom has been there a while, and now its gone just like that! Not to mention, Dawn gave up her strongest Pokemon. Sure, Mamoswines strong, but its had alot less training. But, like others have said, she will likely catch and evolve other Pokemon to compensate. Still, Ambipom shall be missed by this fan.

Armorandonomon

24th April 2009, 4:52 AM

Not only that, but yet again, Hikari's been getting encouragement from people outside our Merry Band of Idiots. Nazomi, Jun, Ou...what's next, is she gonna take Trainer Advice from a bum who fights with Wingull for his daily meals?

CyberCubed

24th April 2009, 5:01 AM

This is definitely the biggest load of bull the writers pulled out of nowhere in a long time.

This release didn't really make any sense. Usually each release benefits the Pokemon in some way, (Butterfree fell in love, Lapras was reunited with its family), but this love for ping pong came out of virtually nowhere.

This Pokemon went through a trade and all that development to be a contest Pokemon, and then it gives it all up in the span of one episode.

In all seriousness this is the first thing in DP that has really bothered me. I suppose we'll care less as the series progressed, but right now it's the most moronic thing the writers have done in recent years.

pokefan16

24th April 2009, 6:34 AM

yeah i agree

It didn't really make any sense. Ambipom just realized that she loved pingpong contest in just 1 DAY compared to the past contest she entered which is many times,I mean what the hell is going with the writers...

~Gregguru~

24th April 2009, 7:31 AM

... Buizel, I hope you realize it is your fault with your ugly face.
For once, I actually agree with you. This is ALL Buizel's fault! >:[
Stupid thing having to become Ash's water type!

fishyfool

24th April 2009, 1:49 PM

Oh, god, why the hell am I never on to see forum breakdowns like this?

Electivirus, there space in that shelter for me?

Bisasam

24th April 2009, 2:40 PM

Linkdarkside

24th April 2009, 3:19 PM

well it was obvious that she would have not kelp two normal type pokemons on her party.

Juputoru

24th April 2009, 6:28 PM

Oh that Ambipom. Switching trainers at the drop of a hat. Why, I tells ya, a year from now that ping-pong feller will take Ambipom near a juggling competition, and that monkey will fall in love with it and leave him for some other new fella. And then Ambipom'll leave that fella for a fella that does tightrope walking, and then she'll leave that fella for a fella who's involved with volleyball.

I'd like to say that I'm as outraged about this as the rest of you, but to be honest...I really didn't give a sheite about the monkey anymore. Yeah, the way they handled the release was lame, but it's hard to get worked up about it when Ambipom's as uninteresting as Buneary to me.

As for the rest:
-Why am I not surprised that they had to explain how ping pong worked?
-A ping-pong ball hit so hard it caught on fire? A random passerby who catches it with his bare hand? I'm not accidently watching one of those lame sport animes, am I? (well, aside from the fact that this episode is an episode where the viewer is essentially doing the most boring activity on earth:Watching other people play sports)
-I spy a girl with a Grovyle in that bracket!
-James looks right proper today. And what's with him and Brock always getting along so well when James is in disguise in the stands, hrm?
-That. That is the worst trophy that will ever be conceieved.
-Ash is really nervous about playing a simple game where you hit a ball with a paddle.
-Sometimes I think I pick really boring things to comment about. Then I remember that this episode is about ****ing ping pong. Watching people/Pokemon hit a small ball back and forth across a table is SO EXCITING that I just can't do it justice in commentary.
-Drama! Alakazam hits the ball hard! Suspence! The ball bounces off the table! Excitement! Ambipom hits the ball!
-The writers avoid showing us the incredible drama and pathos of most of the tournement, sadly enough.
-The champ person(YEAH HE'S THE BEST AT PING PONG THAT IS SO AWESOME) sees great talent in Ambipom. It's like having the dream of being a doctor but some dude goes "hey you're good at stocking shelves" so you become a shelf stocker at Wal-mart.
-Jun loses. The episode loses...well okay, it's already lost all worth simply by being an episode about ping-pong.
-Relax Dawn! That guy's just one of the best at hitting balls across tables! No sweat!
-Ambipom carries the match by itself. You know your sport sucks when it's simple enough that a monkey can do it.
-Apparently Ambipom got injured during the ping-pong match? What, did it get tennis ping-pong elbow?
-"Well my monkey was going to be a famous contest Pokemon...okay I'll consider having it be a champ in a sport nobody cares about"
-Oh sure, Ambipom likes ping pong now, but like a small child, when it's forced to do rigorous training it'll quickly hate it and just wanna do contests again. Or it'll just plain lose interest when it's not shiny and new anymore.
-"Hi I came to ship my monkey off to get burnt out trying to become great at a sport people care about even less than they do golf"

Selfdestruct Togepi

24th April 2009, 6:36 PM

Well.......

with Ambipom gone it leaves Dawn to try and get stonger, better and more fan-loved poke'mon (someones got to take up the 5th slot)

to tell you the truth though, I never really liked Ambipom *ducks and covers*

Slowking[George]

24th April 2009, 6:59 PM

I loved Aipom with Ash, it was such a great Pokémon with a great personality, but when it was traded to Dawn and evolved, its personality faded away and so I thought, it wouldn't be that bad if it goes away. But then there was the scene where it has to choose between contests and Ping Pong. Then it just took the capsule ball, the Ping Pong ball, Ash's and Dawn's hat, and juggled with it. I loved that scene! The playful monkey, like in Aipom times. And it didn't forget that Ash was its trainer, it said goodbye to both of them simultaneously.

Now I really miss it and I hope it will become a Charizard and not a Primeape.

Hopefully we will see it again. And yeah, Ambipom really gave me the feeling that it still regarded both Ash and Dawn as its trainers. The scene with the hats and balls might have looked playful on the outside, but deep inside it was the point where I realised that Ambipom will leave. So it was a sad scene overall.

noobiess

24th April 2009, 7:06 PM

I love the episode!!!! i play pingpong myself and I actually don't see the animé .. but this episode i really want too see then :p

Treecko Girl

24th April 2009, 7:07 PM

Bloody writers seem to piss me off more and more every episode.

uber gon

24th April 2009, 7:26 PM

Bloody writers seem to piss me off more and more every episode.

At least we'll get a Monferno later on.

Psyburn

24th April 2009, 7:47 PM

Episode was incredibly stupid. Of all fillers, we do ping pong.....

But at least we're rid of that monkey...I never liked him personally.

Averyy

24th April 2009, 8:54 PM

Well Ambipom's departure surprised me. First it likes battles then it likes contests more and now it like ping pong more. :P

Buraddo_Aipom

24th April 2009, 10:07 PM

I read the episode descriptions and such, and I feel bad for Ambipom - she's had such a confusing life as a Pokémon. When Ash had her, he put her in Gym Battles. Then he found out she liked Contests, and traded with Dawn. Now Ambipom moves on to Ping Pong.

Poor thing doesn't know her true calling yet :\

Anyways, I'm sad to see her go, she was my favorite on Dawn's team. At least there are two spots open on Dawn's team ;)

BA~~

A_Merry_Snowrunt

24th April 2009, 10:24 PM

I don't know why, but this episode made me feel a bit sad just to see her go.

ShinyCharyZard

24th April 2009, 10:33 PM

Episode was incredibly stupid. Of all fillers, we do ping pong.....

But at least we're rid of that monkey...I never liked him personally.

People use the term 'Filler' really loosely these days don't they? Heck, whats next? Is Chimchar's evolution simply gonna be considered a 'filler'?

HER...Ambipom was a GIRL FFS...

CyberCubed

24th April 2009, 10:44 PM

Slowking[George]

25th April 2009, 9:30 AM

If Ambipom's wasn't released, this would have been more or less a filler, even though Jun was in it.

The actual ping pong was alright, but this is not something I would want to see again. You could tell they were at a loss as to how to keep the ping pong interesting as the ep went on.

I must admit I was kinda... tricked/mistaken? I believed it would have been a filler episode, and I stood up strongly to my belief that Dawn would never release Ambipom. Yet she did, and as you say, this episode was anything but a filler, and as I've stated before, it was kinda ironic when Ambipom was playing with the hats and the balls (as you've said "they were at a loss as to how to keep the ping pong interesting").

HoennMaster

25th April 2009, 5:51 PM

I'm still very shocked and sad Ambipom is gone. Once they got past Oreburgh City they just really ****ed up Aipom/Ambipom writing wise. First they trade her despite this big connection she has to Ash (for goodness sake she followed him after he left her twice!), then they get rid of her for no reason. Ambipom was once of Dawn's best Pokémon and one of my favorites.

One of the biggest mistakes they ever made.

Blaziryu

25th April 2009, 10:52 PM

"Good riddance", Ambipom was annoying PKMN anyway. I'm glad that it's gone now. I got it gets in a bus crash & dies while it off ping-pong touring the world.

ShinyCharyZard

25th April 2009, 11:20 PM

"Good riddance", Ambipom was annoying PKMN anyway. I'm glad that it's gone now. I got it gets in a bus crash & dies while it off ping-pong touring the world.

Lamest post of the day. Honestly....over-react much?

CyberCubed

26th April 2009, 1:28 AM

Snowyarticuno

26th April 2009, 1:32 AM

Lamest post of the day. Honestly....over-react much?

Quite tame considering some of the other reactions toward Ambipom's departure...

HoennMaster

26th April 2009, 8:14 AM

It's a shame, no matter how much the writers improve some parts of the show, they always do something moronic in each saga.

This was one of the worst things they did. The only good part about it was the fact that Ambipom also said goodbye to Ash and took his hat, at least that makes me feel a tad better about the stupid trade.

Alloute

26th April 2009, 8:17 AM

I almost cried, I liked Ambipom. Dawn is so plain without her monkey...

Anyway, the writers messed up BIG TIME.

~Gregguru~

26th April 2009, 8:57 AM

People use the term 'Filler' really loosely these days don't they? Heck, whats next? Is Chimchar's evolution simply gonna be considered a 'filler'?

It's almost as if no one on this forum knows what a filler actually is.
This was in NO WAY a filler. Ambipom being released =/= Filler.

Slowking[George]

26th April 2009, 9:18 AM

Sadly, eps like this prove the writers can still repeat past mistakes from older sagas.

It's a shame, no matter how much the writers improve some parts of the show, they always do something moronic in each saga.

It really makes Dawn's team look a lot weaker now too, which is a shame. It almost makes Dawn look like she's taking a step backwards, IMO.

Of course it makes her team look weaker. Oh come on, what pokemon does she have left? A Mamoswine who isn't even us to the idea of contest and just recently learned how to obey her, a Pachirisu who can barely hold its own in battle, a Buneary which is rarely used therefore not very experienced, and a Piplup who is unevolved, but because it's strong it will have to take the burden of her team. Ambipom and even Buizel before it were the ones giving strength to her team.

BM14murph

26th April 2009, 1:14 PM

A main pokemon is gone from the second main characters team !!!! no way at all a ******* filler

and Mamoswine doesn't even listen to Dawn i don't think dat ep a while back didn't actually prove anything

I liked the episode i have to say nd da fact Ambipom is gone is kinda good like all of her pokemon hers nd not from another region

ShinyCharyZard

26th April 2009, 1:43 PM

Actually, I think Mamoswine will now listen to Dawn. All she needs to do is actually attempt using it, since its pretty clear Mamoswine IS interested.

Eastlight

26th April 2009, 11:23 PM

Eteboss gone is little disappointing, but other than that, it was great episode.
At the end Wang(champ) said that his training camp is at Kanto. For a second, I thought I heard "Jhoto" because I was pretty sure that is where Ash will be going. So I had to go back and hear it again to be dismayed. Anyway, I guess they will meet when Ashes travel back to Pallet after the tournament.

HoennMaster

27th April 2009, 8:25 AM

They had a pretty excited reaction when O said Kanto, so maybe she will get it back.

Psyburn

27th April 2009, 4:26 PM

HER...Ambipom was a GIRL FFS...

IT'S...Gender is not IMPORTANT to me...

Besides, the main characters release their pokemon so often that it's not a big deal to me anymore. Hell, Ash practically shoves his crap in a box when he moves to a new world so...

Dax

27th April 2009, 7:39 PM

I loved Ambipom, she will be missed.:( Hopefully we can see her again, there's a possibility I just think there was so much potential on her character and it was never used completely.

S.Suikun

27th April 2009, 10:17 PM

IT'S...Gender is not IMPORTANT to me...

Besides, the main characters release their pokemon so often that it's not a big deal to me anymore. Hell, Ash practically shoves his crap in a box when he moves to a new world so...
See, this is the crap that worried me about this release rather than the release itself. "So often"? There has not been a main team release since Vulpix, which was 9 freakin' years ago.

And I really don't get why people still aren't convinced Mamoswine is obedient in spite of its lack of interest in contests. Ever since DP119, it has behaved itself whenever let out of its ball. It doesn't need some lengthy demonstration. Seems like you all have a dire case of Mamoswine Flu. Get it? Insenitive and topical! =D

uber gon

28th April 2009, 4:12 AM

At least Ambipom will provide a feasible explaination if we never see her in Kanto, she switches hands WAY too much.

HoennMaster

28th April 2009, 5:33 AM

IT'S...Gender is not IMPORTANT to me...

Doesn't matter if it is important to you. But Ambipom is female.

And I really don't get why people still aren't convinced Mamoswine is obedient in spite of its lack of interest in contests.

Because apparently obeying Dawn in battle and not sending her flying doesn't mean anything. :)

Juputoru

28th April 2009, 5:47 AM

And I really don't get why people still aren't convinced Mamoswine is obedient in spite of its lack of interest in contests.
No no, see, it's obviously pretending to not care(as seen by it cracking an eye open during Dawn's contest training and getting interested in her contest battle) so it's not perfectly conforming to what it needs to do, therefore it is DISOBEDIENT!

Also, since it's apparently the cool thing to do to say how much you'll miss Ambipom...I won't miss it a lick. It, like every other one of Dawn's Pokemon, is/was incredbly boring and it has completely failed to make me give a damn about it during its entire run.

BM14murph

28th April 2009, 4:46 PM

Ever since it left Ash she lost it all

Personality changed a bit...........don't blame the evolution

BogleDominic Crazy Anime

27th May 2009, 10:08 AM

What happend to match when dawn was facing this guy with a shiftry? (Cant spell that)
I like ping pong anyway.
Wow! I never seen people like doing it so hard with the ball!
And meouth is stupid.
I will miss Ampipom. She'll miss Dawn and also ash when she was on his team.

AeroLugia

27th May 2009, 10:31 AM

NO!

What were they thinking? I mean, Ambipom is a legend and now they release him. This is even worse than the butterfree release thing, and that was pretty bad.

I say let's have a tribute to all the released pokemon;012;;269;;424;;390; (Only sort of for chimmy coz Ash picked him up)

pokefan16

10th June 2009, 3:38 PM

Well, I'm still hoping ambipom will return in the GF or probably in the BF arc... Why Would they release a 4th gen pokemon... Writers! it's a 4th Gen Pokemon piff!

SoLaR-ScEpTiLe

12th July 2009, 3:15 PM

Why did they remove the monkey?
it was an really great Pokemon...:(
why Pingpong...why?

Darkxninga

3rd August 2009, 5:30 AM

Poor...Poor...Ambi..Why writers..WHY!? what were you all thinking writers!??! ._. -sniff sniff- we seen little ambi since johto (or it was Hoen cant remember ) when it was little monkey and it never got annoying and when it evolved it was great and then THIS!? >_> The horror... Ambi....you will be missed.

I wonder if Dawn will get anymore pokemon that will in be Dawns 5th pokeball. She has so little pokemon now.... and yet she still doesnt do much with her other pokemon besides piplup of course. Im not surprised Ambi was in this episode though but ..........I was so sad to see Ambi in that car leaving.

Now that Ambi is gone what about Dawns appeals? That last contest appeal ( in the english ones) was boring. Same old ice beam stuff and that slide was beh. We need Ambi to do that job....too bad it didnt have that many times of appeal.

Overall this episode was good except the monkey being released.
I just hope the writers got something in on this thats interesting but wont make the poke watchers explode like the posts are here about ambi leaving.

So long Ambipom ;424;

Anyone 4 Buttons?

20th August 2009, 12:17 PM

I think the only chance of seeing Ambipom again is that the trio travel through Kanto to get to Johto and they pop in on it in training.
I enjoyed the episode though - something a bit different, you know? When Ambipom was juggling, I'll admit I laughed a little when it grabbed both their hats, showing affection for the both of them. Also, kudos to the writers remembering Jessie's short lived time with Aipom!

twilightcutie

20th August 2009, 9:26 PM

ambipom is one of my favorite pokemon that dawn has :'( . im gunna miss it !!!
cant believe ambipom is going away, its one of dawn's best pokemon ...
this just sucks !!! :'[ .
this episode in english dub could be called "Ping Pong Ambipom"

HoennMaster

21st August 2009, 5:59 AM

I think the only chance of seeing Ambipom again is that the trio travel through Kanto to get to Johto and they pop in on it in training.

Well, they had a pretty excited reaction after finding out that O lives in Kanto, so maybe.

KojiroJames2006

23rd August 2009, 2:03 PM

Well, we'll get another opinion September 12 on CN.

twilightcutie

25th August 2009, 8:10 PM

ambipom is one of my favorite pokemon !!, cant believe its happeningg :'( .
goodbye ambipom, ill miss youu </3 .

ps: this episode could be called "Ping Pong Ambipom"

ijea4444

25th August 2009, 8:18 PM

ambipom is one of my favorite pokemon !!, cant believe its happeningg :'( .
goodbye ambipom, ill miss youu </3 .

ps: this episode could be called "Ping Pong Ambipom"

Thankfully, unlike the DUB, the original episodes don't bother with pointless puns.

twilightcutie

25th August 2009, 9:52 PM

http://www.serebii.net/anime/NextOn/592.jpgPokémon PingPong Competition! Ambipom Perseveres!!

After the recent Pokémon Contest in Tatsuami Town, Ash, Barry, Dawn & Jessie all decide to enter the Pokémon Ping-Pong Competition with Pikachu, Empoleon, Ambipom & Meowth respectively. However, when the master of Pokémon Ping-Pong arrives, the gang soon find that their task is not going to be easy. Who will win the competition?

Visit The Episode Guide (http://www.serebii.net/anime/epiguide/shinou/592.shtml)

Discuss
ambipom is one of my favorite pokemon !!, cant believe its happeningg :'( .
goodbye ambipom, ill miss youu </3 .

ps: this episode could be called "Ping Pong Ambipom"

hmmm

1st September 2009, 5:41 PM

How did we not see the monkey, which once had a hat obsession, be released?!

A main pokemon is gone from the second main characters team !!!! no way at all a ******* filler

and Mamoswine doesn't even listen to Dawn i don't think dat ep a while back didn't actually prove anything

I liked the episode i have to say nd da fact Ambipom is gone is kinda good like all of her pokemon hers nd not from another region

yeah he do, watch the show

Red Charizard

1st September 2009, 5:46 PM

Thankfully, unlike the DUB, the original episodes don't bother with pointless puns.

Puns rock.

I think this is the most random and ridiculous idea for an episode ever.

I love it! :'D

talala

5th September 2009, 10:04 PM

finally we'll see someone besides ambipom appealing for contests

thunderblade12

6th September 2009, 12:31 AM

For the last two contests it's been Buneary that did the appeals

Linkaro

6th September 2009, 4:32 AM

Thankfully, unlike the DUB, the original episodes don't bother with pointless puns.

I don't think "To thine own Pokemon be true!" is that pointless.

Dashing

6th September 2009, 2:50 PM

I'm glad Ambipom's leaving. First of all, I don't like it that much and second of all, this gives Dawn's other pokémon (especially Mamoswine) a chance to shine.

poke freak 997

6th September 2009, 4:50 PM

Dashing, what on earth are you talking about leaving ampibom is not good its terrible this is just like Misty getting rid of Staryu or May getting rid of Beatifly.

Masterge77

9th September 2009, 12:26 PM

I am peed off at Dawn giving away Ambipom, I predict that we will never see him again, like they did to Ash's Primeape a long time ago, I mean, when Ash gave away Charazard, we saw him in later episodes, Squirtle and Bulbasaur did the same, and so did most of the other Pokemon Ash has at Oaks, but we never saw from Primeape ever again, and it looks like it will be the same for Ambipom as with what happend to Primeape

Caseydia

11th September 2009, 6:24 PM

Ambipom was always very self choiced pokemon since the beginning. First it loved contests, so it was traded to Dawn, now it was let go because it liked ping pong. That's why I never liked the thing in the first place.

Dattebayo

12th September 2009, 2:32 PM

It finally happened, Ambipom has left the show. Thank goodness because Ambipom ruined Aipom for getting an evolution, which is uncalled for because Aipom is a Stand Alone Pokemon, and Stand Alone are more special and powerful than Fully Evolved Pokemon. Now we need an episode of Ash's Gliscor leaving the show.

Rex Kamex

12th September 2009, 2:37 PM

Every Pokemon is a standalone Pokemon unless/until it has an evolution, and getting rid of Ambipom doesn't change the fact that it was still made in the first place.

Anyway, does anyone know if where that BGM came from during the flashback scene? Like, if it was from a movie or anything?

the1stpkmnfan

12th September 2009, 2:37 PM

My notes on today's episode:

Looks like O's name is the same in the dub. That's good I guess.

Ambipom definitely is a good pingpong player, so Im no suprised.

During the final round, pretty nice of Ambipom to cover dawn's position when her ping pong handle broke.

Nice to see a flashback scene for Aipom/Ambipom back from the first episode and her evolution. Just too bad there weren't a lot of dramatic scenes. Just one with Dawn not knowing where Ambipom is. But that's it.

Looks like Ambipom decided between Contests, PingPong, Dawn and Ash; hats specifically. And... she choose Ping Pong.

Good thing that Ash and Brock were lightened to see that O and Ambipom will be Vermillion city, and mentioning they can go there anytime. Let's just hope they do.

I'm going to miss Ambipom, but good luck on her new dream. <3

Ash's Aipom/Dawn's Ambipom ~ (July 8, 2006) December 7, 2006 - (April 23, 2009) September 12, 2009

Goodbye Ambipom, also my favorite Pokemon. :(

Dattebayo

12th September 2009, 2:39 PM

Every Pokemon is a standalone Pokemon unless/until it has an evolution, and getting rid of Ambipom doesn't change the fact that it was still made in the first place.

But I don't want an Evolved Form of a previous gen Stand Alone Pokemon to be one of the main characters of the show, but that's just me.

Mudkip43

12th September 2009, 2:41 PM

Awww No More Ambipom the writers have lost there minds getting rid of her she was probably the best pokemon on dawns team it was strong and fast mamos just fast and fat.

halloweenghost

12th September 2009, 2:43 PM

Goodbye ambipom,.goodluck....

good episode here. I was expecting Dawn to cry but nope :P

I like how people get mad and call Dawn/ash/anyone dumb for giving a pokemon away... Do any of you pay attention to the show at all any? and if you have to ask what doI mean.. then the answer is obvious..

DarkMammoth

12th September 2009, 2:47 PM

I ended up watching this on my HDTV this morning, and I gotta say I really liked the high-def look.

Anyway, as for the episode itself, kinda sad to see Ambipom go, I thought it was cute.

Torpoleon

12th September 2009, 2:47 PM

Great episode! Ambipom was amazing! I can tell that the writers did not just pull Vermillion City out of their asses. Vermillion City does have a boat and both Ash and Brock live in the Kanto Region, where Ambipom is. Sad to see Ash lost in the first round. In competitions, when ever he has the chance, he never battles Dawn because he always loses the round before. Same thing happened in the Wallace Cup. Probably because Ash would beat Dawn.

Dattebayo

12th September 2009, 2:48 PM

I like how people get mad and call Dawn/ash/anyone dumb for giving a pokemon away... Do any of you pay attention to the show at all any?

Nope, during commercial breaks, I watch Punch Out!! videos to relieve myself to hear the fighters' voices after hearing the anime's.

PokemonHero

12th September 2009, 2:53 PM

Anyway, does anyone know if where that BGM came from during the flashback scene? Like, if it was from a movie or anything?

You mean when it was showing all the scenes of Aipom/Ambipom? It sounds like it came from the Movie 9 soundtrack. It had the same choral style as much of the other music from the movie, as well as the background.

As for me, I was surprised when I first found out that Ambipom was leaving. However, unlike others who are extremely ****** off about it, I'm not. I mean, yes, it would've been nice to have her stick around with the Contests and all. However, you also must remember that Ambipom had just discovered something new that she was enjoying. As well, she was being commended by a top player. Ambipom has already done a lot in this saga. I mean, she took part in three Gym battles (two with Ash, one with Dawn), four Contests (two of which resulted ultimately in a Dawn win), as well as being traded and evolving. That's a lot more focus than people are realizing.

As well, I see a big difference between this and the Ash/Primeape release episode. For one, Primeape won the competition it entered, even though it should have not done that well, given lack of experience and the opponents. Dawn and Ambipom got far, but they lost. Ambipom leaving is trying to fulfill potential that is seen within her. Primeape left because it was already the champion, and really couldn't stick around with Ash.

For me, I think that it was something that the writers could have avoided doing, but it's not something that I'm majorly upset about.

As for the episode itself, I found it quite entertaining. Of course, they did add much for dramatic effect (flaming ping pong balls and breaking paddles), but it was nothing too bad. There were a few amusing moments, such as Brock and James interactions and Ash grabbing a fan. However, this was about Dawn and Ambipom, as it should be. I find that it was a much better episode than people are giving it credit for.

FlameRose

12th September 2009, 2:54 PM

-Oh Dawn, you silly girl. How could you not know about ping-pong? :P
-Why is it that when James wears that disguise, he and Brock get along so well? Seriously, that's just hilarious, especially the scene with them being shoulder-to-shoulder.
-Good job to Dawn and Ambipom for making it so far. I'm so proud of them both!
-Why are Barry's facial expressions always so hilarious?
-Ambipom...I'm gonna miss you so much, but good luck. Hope to see you again someday!

All in all, minus the ending, I thought this was fine. 3.5/5 stars. Now...onto the Cherubi and Candice!

pastel

12th September 2009, 2:54 PM

i just love it, its just saddd

popcorn dragon

12th September 2009, 3:01 PM

Great episode, but it was so stupid when Ambipom was juggling.

the1stpkmnfan

12th September 2009, 3:04 PM

As for me, I was surprised when I first found out that Ambipom was leaving. However, unlike others who are extremely ****** off about it, I'm not. I mean, yes, it would've been nice to have her stick around with the Contests and all. However, you also must remember that Ambipom had just discovered something new that she was enjoying. As well, she was being commended by a top player. As well, Ambipom has already done a lot in this saga. I mean, she took part in three Gym battles (two with Ash, one with Dawn), four Contests (two of which resulted ultimately in a Dawn win), as well as being traded and evolving. That's a lot more focus than people are realizing.

Amen. I really enjoyed watching Aipom, starting in the episodes from the Battle Frontier when she debut. I'm personally glad she stook around when DP started. She really brighten my face for these past 3/4 years. :) Seeing her compete in battles/contest were quite amazing and Im glad to see her achieve. Trading between Ash and Dawn was something alright, but Im glad she was able to compete in Dawn's Contest. Then evolving came in, which was more exciting to see. Still a sight to see. With her newer talent, I wish her a lot of luck in her PingPong dream.

For me, I think that it was something that the writers could have avoided doing, but it's not something that I'm majorly upset about.

Same with me. I didn't feel all upset while watching this. I thought I was going to be that upset, but guess not. Glad I didn't feel the need to rant.

hol123

12th September 2009, 3:05 PM

I need to see this episode on Youtube today. I guarantee I'll be fuming when Ambipom leaves.

Blaziryu

12th September 2009, 3:06 PM

Great episode, but it was so stupid when Ambipom was juggling.

Agree. But you know Ambipom. It always wants to play around even during those serious moments. Anyway, I'm glad that it's gone.

PokemonHero

12th September 2009, 3:07 PM

Amen. I really enjoyed watching Aipom, starting in the episodes from the Battle Frontier when she debut. I'm personally glad she stook around when DP started. She really brighten my face for these past 3/4 years. :) Seeing her compete in battles/contest were quite amazing and Im glad to see her achieve. Trading between Ash and Dawn was something alright, but Im glad she was able to compete in Dawn's Contest. Then evolving came in, which was more exciting to see. Still a sight to see. With her newer talent, I wish her a lot of luck in her PingPong dream.

Yeah, I liked that they introduced her in the Battle Frontier. They had a lot of character development for her.

And on a total unrelated note, I used "as well" one to many times in that paragraph.

popcorn dragon

12th September 2009, 3:10 PM

Yeah, *shoots ambipoms head off* ambipom is probably my least favorite *blood gushes from its neck* so excited! Now Ou will have to put up with its antics!

pokedexfiller

12th September 2009, 3:42 PM

it was so sad when ambipom left... all those memories... i could barely stand it... but it was so beautiful at the same time

Mi10ticFan

12th September 2009, 3:53 PM

Not the monkey! It's cute and wonderful and... perfect! Why Ping Pong? Are you Quirky, Ambipom?

FlashCannon

12th September 2009, 4:49 PM

Hm Vermillion city,
Kinda hints the johto boat thing and going back to kanto.

Now im sure we will see ambipom agian

Swampert_trainer

12th September 2009, 5:41 PM

When Dawn asked Ash what he would do in this situation I was expecting a Primeape flashback. I guess I was wrong. I'm upset that Dawn got rid of Ambipom, since she was my favorite Pokemon on her team.

Still, the episode was okay.

klubkj

12th September 2009, 5:45 PM

well now two monkey pokemon are given away.

A_Merry_Snowrunt

12th September 2009, 6:00 PM

foxyman1167

12th September 2009, 6:49 PM

This was one of the weirdest most random episodes I have ever watched, but I barely watch the anime, so whatever. Kinda sucks that the only good pokemon Dawn had, she gave away. Why don't people trade pokemon any more in the anime? Seriously though, other than the Buizel-Aipom trade, when was the last time in the anime someone traded as opposed to giving a pokemon away.

Also, when Meowth sliced the ping pong ball in half, was it just me or did anyone else notice Jesse saying "That's slice&dice, not slice&dice!!" to Meowth?

What did Meowth say before the ref disqualified him too?

STICKTOPIA

12th September 2009, 8:12 PM

I don't recall Ash being so nervous like that b4. Ou said his training center or w/e is in vermilion city so i believe we will see ambipom again:D. Yes foxyman jessie did say that.

Gipauchii

12th September 2009, 8:37 PM

I'm sorry, but this episode was garbage. This whole Ping Pong idea is rediculous and it's taken way more seriously then it should be. Plus this episode was pretty boring. I don't understand how such a lightweight ping pong ball can break a wooden paddle. And why was Dawn crying over a game of ping pong when Ambipom had to take over for her? That was just down-right overdramatic. It was sad that Ambipom left though. Overall, this episode wasn't good and it seemed as if the show creators couldn't think of anything good during the creation of this episode and just put Pokemon Ping Pong as the subject out of laziness just so they could move on with other episodes. Not a good way to handle an episode that is actually part of the main plot.

Terry. T.

12th September 2009, 8:47 PM

I expect we'll see Ambipom in some cameo in the future. And did anyone notice that Dawn kept Ambipom's Pokeball rather give it away to Oi? That explains why Ambi is still in the opening. I love Barry/Jun's reactions in today's episode.

They'll probably change the intro now. But they didn't in Japan. But thios in tro was from GB ep 16.

the1stpkmnfan

12th September 2009, 9:12 PM

Ambipom, really, won't be taken out of the opening at all (until they replace High Touch and whatnot for a future saga/season). But thank goodness, she's still in the opening. :) And yeah, Ambipom's not actually traded, since Dawn kept her Pokeball (I think?), Ambipom's just training I believe. Hope she just doesn't end up like Primeape and never appears in the anime. Which I DONT want to happen.

The DP anime is pretty good with making hints/foreshadowing for future events and episodes though.

DarkZerkerX

12th September 2009, 10:01 PM

This was a decent episode, kinda overhyped but its ok. Nothing special but Ambipom leaving was a nice twist. Didnt really build anybodys character exept maybe dawn....

Rebecca R.

12th September 2009, 10:04 PM

Ambipom is gone. Finally.

Anyway, Ö, or however you spell that, was really cool. Meowth using Fury Swipes was funny. This is probably one of my favorite episodes this season.

Gipauchii

12th September 2009, 11:03 PM

The way the writers killed Ambipom off the show was very crappy. I would be willing to argue that Ambipom is/was the best Pokemon on her team, or at least the one with the best moveset. And then it decides to give up its love of Contests that it had ever since BF/DP, leave the only people it has known and loved to go and train with complete strangers for a goal that it had just started doing the previous day? I'm sorry, but that's just a poor excuse and lousy work on the writers part. If they wanted to get rid of Ambipom, at least they could have given it a better reason than this.

hol123

13th September 2009, 12:42 AM

Just watched this episode. I really didn't like much of it. The ending was sad, and I was ecstatic to hear Make A Wish - Jirachi Wishmaker again. The thing is, Ash said see you soon. I think she's going to come back.

Flash-Agent

13th September 2009, 12:48 AM

Re-hashes

Chim gets charmander'd
Starly evolves like Swellow
Mamo follows Charizard

... and now they let ambipom follow primeape?

I actually thought Dawn would win the contest, after which Mamo would pop out of his ball and eat all of the food like Snorlax would cause THAT is EXACTLY how predictive they are these days. Come on.

WaterDragon trainer

13th September 2009, 2:19 AM

This episode was not that interesting. The only things I got to say are that I found it a little cool to add pokemon into the game of ping pong as well as Ambipom leaving the team was surprising (at least to me it was).

PokemonHero

13th September 2009, 4:51 AM

Re-hashes

Chim gets charmander'd
Starly evolves like Swellow
Mamo follows Charizard

Very much disagree with that statement. Chimchar is very different from Charmander. While it is true that they were both abandoned by their trainers, there are numerous differences. Charmander adapted to the team right away, but Chimchar had to assimilate to a brand new enviornment after being with Paul. As well, Chimchar has much more of a backstory than Charmander ever had, and many times, the past comes back and has an effect on the story.

I should not debate subject too long. After all, this is an episode discussion about Ambipom's release.

As for the subject of Ambipom's release being similar to Primeape's, I will refer to my earlier post:

As well, I see a big difference between this and the Ash/Primeape release episode. For one, Primeape won the competition it entered, even though it should have not done that well, given lack of experience and the opponents. Dawn and Ambipom got far, but they lost. Ambipom leaving is trying to fulfill potential that is seen within her. Primeape left because it was already the champion, and really couldn't stick around with Ash.

Typhlosion Trainer

13th September 2009, 5:36 AM

Not a bad episode. Ambipom was good at ping-pong. I still dont know why the writers wanted to get rid of Ambipom......but o well.

pikagirl

13th September 2009, 8:12 AM

Not as intresting as I hoped but still a good episode. I'll miss Ambipom but I'm glad Dawn let her choose.

milenadrg

13th September 2009, 8:24 AM

I didn't really liked this episode! I still can't beilive Ambipom leaved to play that Ping-Pong and Dawn crying like some baby was really annoying...

blueparakeet

13th September 2009, 8:37 AM

-I dunno why, but I'm pumped for this episode. xD
-Naw, Brock doesn't enter (as usual) ):
-Darn. Why does Dawn get a colour screen for her Poketch. xD
-How does O catch the ping-pong ball without burning his hand? o.o
-Wow, there's sure alot of people in the ping pong contest...
-Barry seems to be in love with ping pong...
-Ahh. Brock's so naive. -.- Obviously not James or anything.
-Haha, well Jessie was out fast.
-How on Earth does a ping pong ball catch fire like that? Surely it's not travelling THAT fast. -sigh- Anime physics.
-Naw, Ash loses first round too. Depressing :(
-Meowth's taking the blame? Nawww :(
-Ahh, Barry had such a short match D:
-Wow, Ambipom did really well by herself - feels like she won the match faster than if Dawn was playing as well o.o
-Well, Dawn lost too... No surprises, I guess. This episode isn't supposed to be ceentered around a victory.
-I know what's coming up next... And not liking it :( I don't want Ambipom to leave...
-The music being played when Ash has flashbacks with Aipom sounds kinda mysterious and creepy. o.o
-Nawww, Ambipom took both Ash's and Dawn's hats xD

Alright, I have to complain a bit.
Ambipom started out with Ash, an even followed him to Sinnoh. And now she just leaves like this :(
I really would've liked it if Ambipom stayed or was returned to Ash. Ambipom made a good contest Pokemon, and to top it off, was cute.
I would've preferred if Ambipom was Oaked. At least it doesn't mean Ambipom gone forever... :/

AleksandarT

13th September 2009, 12:15 PM

Good episode :)
Sad to see Ambipom leave, in my opinion it was one of the best Pokemon that Dawn has. Hopefully we will get the chance to see him in some future episodes

raz1337

13th September 2009, 12:43 PM

Vermillion city reference was awesome. A foreshadow to a boat trip to Johto?

Linkdarkside

13th September 2009, 2:54 PM

the episode was awesome and it sad that Ambipom leave.

any one knows the sad music that played wend Ambipom was chosing?

ash_forever

13th September 2009, 6:09 PM

I know many of you are upset because of Ambipom's farewell, but regardless of that it was a great episode

Brock and James hugging each other sure cracked me up. Definitely, the funniest moment besides Ash holding a fan.

Of course, Ash had to lose. But you know what? Although I'm a huge Ash-fan, I'm not disappointed about it. His defeat gave the show authenticity, because letting him win a discipline which hasn't much to do with Pokemon battling and which he has never done before would be quite illogical. The way the writer handled it was realistic and fortunately avoided any DEM methods. That's what we want to see!

I also like how Jessie constantly moaned about her defeat and put on a hurt face ^^ Haha, that looked hilarious.

Now let me say a few words about the Ambipom-issue:
I do understand that some of you are disappointed or even angry but calling this episode the worst one of the DP saga is over the top if you ask me.
PokemonHero hit the nail on its head when he /she said:
Ambipom has already done a lot in this saga. I mean, she took part in three Gym battles (two with Ash, one with Dawn), four Contests (two of which resulted ultimately in a Dawn win), as well as being traded and evolving. That's a lot more focus than people are realizing.

The fact that there are Pokemon which have to leave our heroes has been a part of the Anime since the very first episodes. So, what was so special about Ambipom that justifies your complaints?
It wasn't even one of Ash's Pokemon and Ash is still the main hero after all. To be honest I've never been a huge fan of Ambipom because firstly, its voice was way too aggressive and shrill, secondly, it wasn't heroic at all, but behaved like a clown and thirdly, I think that Chimchar should be the only(the "true" so to speak) monkey in our heroes' team.
Now some of you are complaining that Ambipom's farewell came out of the blue and couldn't be expected. But if you think back you'll remember that before the episode in which Charizard left, there were absolutely no indications that this would happen either, right? ;)
Let me ask you something: Have you ever found something which totally fascinated you? Something you were hooked on? Sure, Ambipom loved competing in contests but we mustn't forget that it hadn't known ping pong yet back then. Let me give you an example: I was impressed and overwhelmed when I first saw Lance and thought that he was the best of the best. Then I met Cynthia an everything changed...:crush: ( I still like Lance though^^)
We THOUGHT(!) that Ambipom's passion were contest, but it hasn't found its true destiny until now. (The same applies to us humans. It often takes us many years to find the right profession, for instance.) This is a highly profound motif and I don't get why you keep asserting that the reason why the writers made Ambipom leave was insufficient. From my point of view the writers came up with a perfect reason for its farewell. I do not see any inconsistencies or a lack of quality here.
In its last episode all of Ambipom's qualities were featured once again and we witnessed a really moving and worthy farewell scene during which even I had to try hard not to shed tears.

An awesome but also touching episode which gets

7.5 out of 10 points

Rex Kamex

13th September 2009, 7:01 PM

any one knows the sad music that played wend Ambipom was chosing?

It's an instrumental version of the ending theme for the Jirachi movie. "Chiisaki Mono" (which I don't know what that translates to an English unless it's the same as the American name of the song, "Make a Wish.")

Geodude

14th September 2009, 12:16 PM

I liked the part where Meowth accidentally sliced the ball apart. :p

HoennMaster

14th September 2009, 6:21 PM

Yeah that was funny. This was a really good filler. I was sad to see Ambipom go.

BTW, I know this isn't filler, just wanting to see people's reactions since according to everyone a filler episode is an episode without a gym battle.

Rex Kamex

18th September 2009, 11:59 PM

BTW, I know this isn't filler, just wanting to see people's reactions since according to everyone a filler episode is an episode without a gym battle.

I was about to say...

... my mind nearly blew up...

Rebeccag

21st September 2009, 9:52 PM

I enjoyed this episode and probably enjoyed it more than a contest episode. Brock andf James hugging each other cracked me up and also Jessie moaning as well about her defeat and her flashback to nearly getting Aipom. I think Ampipom made the right decsion as well and maybe we will see her again if they go back to Kanto. Overall a really good episode and for once there wasnt much that i was bored with and it didnt drag either for once

STICKTOPIA

22nd September 2009, 1:58 AM

Vermillion city reference was awesome. A foreshadow to a boat trip to Johto? Nope. Well maybe. Idk.

Geodude

23rd September 2009, 4:43 AM

What does Vermilion have to do with Johto? If it's a foreshadow of anything, it's that they'll stop there on their way to/from Pallet after Ash's Sinnoh League and Dawn's Grand Festival.

BogleDominic Crazy Anime

9th November 2009, 7:07 PM

Pokemon pin-pong in Vermillion City? Will ash and com will be there?

The 4th KIRA

15th November 2009, 6:10 AM

Ping-Pong was a refreshing concept in the anime. Wish we'd get a few more sports in.

As for Ambipom leaving, it was sad, I wouldn't have thought it would leave after a few games of Ping-Pong. Just goes to show where it's loyalty was.

5/10

Ash-kid

2nd December 2009, 10:54 AM

Great episode, i loved how Dawn didn't give up to Shiftry and his trainer.
And it was sad to see Ambipom leaving.

wobbanut

2nd January 2010, 1:49 AM

They shouldn't have let Ambipom go. Part of it was just wrong to me. Although Ambipom proved to be really good at the pingpong, it seemed odd to me that Ambipom would just suddenly give up pokemon contests for them, when they established from very early on in Aipom/Ambipom's time on the show that it was into contests. It just didn't sit right with me. I did like the part where it juggled Ash and Dawn's hats, and the parts with Jessie and Dawn and Ash all thinking back on Aipom/Ambipom, but I still think Ambipom chose the pingpong playing a little too suddenly.

Otherwise, the episode is pretty good.

Locormus

6th January 2010, 3:12 AM

Thinking back, Aipom/Ambipom was really a pokemon of the whole group. So that made it extra sad when it left. The episode itself was pretty good. Nice opponent in O, and nice opponents in the entire field. There was also some build up to this, so it didn't feel all too sudden when Ambipom left.

It's still strange how I felt exactly the same feeling when I first read the Gliscor vs Scizzor title.. I just knew that something was going to happen because of the merchandise that gave away clues..

Cobalt_Latios

30th January 2010, 5:32 PM

So, YTV aired this episode today, and while I knew Ambipom was going to released, I still decided to simply enjoy the episode anyways.

What does Vermilion have to do with Johto? If it's a foreshadow of anything, it's that they'll stop there on their way to/from Pallet after Ash's Sinnoh League and Dawn's Grand Festival.
Yeah, I figured that they could do that. A freakin' big shock that he's from Vermilion, of all places.

It's still strange how I felt exactly the same feeling when I first read the Gliscor vs Scizzor title.. I just knew that something was going to happen because of the merchandise that gave away clues..
I find it funny that you mention that, if only because one of the teams during the Ping Pong tournament involved a Gliscor. Which is either coincidence that it appears in an episode with one of the main team is sent off, or tremendous irony.

I laughed a bit from thinking that out. It's probably more coincidence, but it is very amusing.

C_L

hol123

30th January 2010, 11:11 PM

This episode wasn't bad, but I also hated it. Ambipom was one of my favourite Pokemon, and to see it given away to some Ping-Pong (really, of all things?) nobody was sad. I have to admit, the ending got me. Saying goodbye to Ambipom was bad enough, and then I hear the instrumental of May's Lullaby, and I blasted the volume up. My eyes were wet, but that was probably because of my stupid cold.

Overall, 7.5/10.

Ludi-Cola

31st January 2010, 10:02 PM

^feel better soon hol123.
Goodbye eps are always sad to me, no matter how well there presented b/c I always remember the pokemon (or ocassionally human's) time on the show. Ambipom in particular had a strong impact on the group, beginning w/ it's playful following and hat-swiping of Ash to it's contest work w/ Dawn. Heck even JESSIE got positive chara development due to that unoffocial contest win (I would put that as the turning point in Jess' coordinator career as the confidence she gained from that spured her to practice new techniques and flaunt the poke more than herself) so that flashback was extra moving.
How cute was it when Meowth sliced up that ball? Reminds me of our dog whose always rough on his toys. Meowth apologizes for the loss was so nice, he srsly did intend a honest win for Jess, and it gets me pumped for the English premiere of CrossDressalina where he'll make good on his promise, along w/ James and Carnivine's helping.
Also, Barry~~~ added that extra bit of humor. Paul better watch out, he has another mancrush. I don't think O being from Vermilion will turn out to be significant later, but atleast we know where Ambipom is going and it's not Generic Anime Town #190. I'll miss her but figure she'll be happy and well cared for so it's a good ending albeit bittersweet.