The Power Of One (M02)

[Serebii]

http://www.serebii.net/movies/lugia.jpgThe Power Of One!

Ash in his travels along the Orange Islands gets sidetracked to Shamouti island after his boat got dragged out at sea. He becomes involved in the festival to celebrate a prophecy. But when a Pokémon Collector starts collecting the Legendary Bird Pokémon to awaken the most powerful Legendary Bird, Lugia. Can Ash save the world?

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Discuss

[meggirl63]

Ash really did manage to save the world. :D MY HERO!!!!!!! *kisses Ash on the cheek*

[Blue,Too?]

This is my favorite pokemon movie so far. Slowking was pretty funny and it seemed like the world was actually going to end (by a crazy chess playing pokemon collector, no less). Some people didn't like how they hinted that Ash was the "chosen one", but come on people, even in the Japanese version, it was still obvious, since who else would, Tracey?

I give this a 10/10.

[Gigi]

Some people didn't like how they hinted that Ash was the "chosen one", but come on people, even in the Japanese version, it was still obvious, since who else would, Tracey?

Why not...? >.>() The only reason why Satoshi saved the world was because Furura thought he was cute or whatever. X.o() Who knows... Kasumi's a Pokemon trainer... Kasumi coulda saved the planet. :P

[Blue,Too?]

But still, who was the main character? Satoshi. So who was gonna save the world? Satoshi. Didn't matter what the legend said, since it was obvious from the get go, no matter which version you are watching.

[EXP:282]

this is my favourite pokemon movie. I mean that Lugia is my second favourite legendary after Mewtwo. I like it because its more action like and mystical than the first one. And a bit funny when they were on Fire Island.
''Welcome to my world, i have to deal with his stubborn attitude evry single day' Misty
''Oh youll get used to it. Its just something youll need to work on when the two of you get married'' Melody
''Take that back!''Misty
''Look kid, when you get involved with the oppisite sex your only looking for trouble'' Jessie
''Thats the kinda trouble, i stay out of'' James
''Yous two dont need the opposite sex cause youve got each other'' Meowth
''What does that mean?'' Jessie
'' Not funny'' James

[Crystal Latios]

First I really didn`t like this Movie. Now I think, its fine. I like this plot and characters (Melody, that girl with green hair, Slowking, LawrenceIII etc.), also, I like Music a lot.
Team Rocket has a bigger role. They are not only losers and they haven`t been there only for 5 minutes. Also, hehe, Misty was jealous, because Melody liked Ash.

[Freedom]

I liked this movie. We got to see Lugia, Articuno, Zapdos and Moltres. There were lots of Pokeshipping hints. The music was really good.

This was an okay movie. Not the best Pokemon movie. I give it 7 out of 10.

[Lupin]

This is my favorite movie by far. It has my favorite legendary in it, Slowking is really funny ("I could use pants") and I just love the music in it.

[GOD.]

this was the funniest and most shippiest, which i like.

[ChaosMage]

Meh. I gave up on the movies when they stopped being released (P3 was the last one I saw) I only saw this for the Ancient Mew card

[Phantom_Bugsy]

I liked it because of Jiri (I REFUSE ta call him Lawrence III. Period.), and because Tracey was ACTUALLY in a movie. With a big role. :D

I wish he would've saved the world. ; ;

[Silver Ryu]

I liked this movie, it was really good. It's not really one of my favorites, but I really liked it. And now for......THE QUOTES!!!!!!

Ash: *walking through deep snow* Right now, I feel more like the Frozen One!

Slowking: I could use pants... XD

And probably my favorite...
Jessie: I'd hate to get burned by their fire!
James: I'd hate to get zapped by their lightning!
Meowth: I'd hate to get hit by...their droppings!
XD!!!

[Gigi]

I liked it because of Jiri (I REFUSE ta call him Lawrence III. Period.), and because Tracey was ACTUALLY in a movie. With a big role. :D

I wish he would've saved the world. ; ;

Same! >:3 Double same! 'Cept furura would need to keep her paws off him. >.> *Grr*
Kenji was in the third and fourth movies too, but it was only for a few moments, sadly. T.T

[GOD.]

i just noticed that the piece of music used in this film (the bit where melody, misty and tracey go after ash) was also used in "get this show on the road" XD

[LugiaMew]

I LOVE this Movie! Especially the Theme tune. "Life can be a challenge, life can seem impossible.........." Sorry, got carried away..

[Ryusuke Hikari]

This movie is one of the best of the 7 by far. Very dramatic, great music, and...great comedy?

"I could use pants..."

"Listen to me kid, when you get involved with the opposite sex, you're only asking for trouble!"
"And that's the kind of trouble...I stay out of."
"Usually you two don't need the opposite sex, 'cause you got each other! LOL"

"We're on the big screen!"
"I gotta catch this on video!"

"Our ship has finally came in!" *ship comes in*

LOL

10/10

[starscream]

yea i also noticed that the piece of music from this film is the same as from the episode, well spotted

[Perfect Darkness]

This movie was the funniest andbest if you ask me. I support pokeshipping which was also why I liked the movie. I am a major pokeshipper. Anyway aside from that, although many may have not found one part as funny as I have, but oh well. This is not the exact wording, but I know it went something like this:

"Oh no, what are we going to do? The balls have not been placed in the amount of time they were supposed to be so now there will be a never ending war between the three birds!" Melody

"But we can stop it!" Ash or Misty

"No, it was destined. It even says that in the legend that it was supposed to be. When the balls are not placed the wholeworld will turn to ash." Melody

"Wait, ash. Ash, iut means Ash Ketchum!"Misty or MELODY.

Ash is the hero...again.-_-. Can't someone else be? Misty or Tracey maybe. Of maybe Melody if you want to make it intresting.~_^

[Jesse GS the II]

As hard as this plot was to swallow (as soon as I heard "the earth shall turn to ash" I immediately put two and two together and thought "Oh, my God, that's ridiculous"), I still remember liking it a lot upon its initial release. I remember it well - it was during the week of my annual family camping trip, and my dad drove me, my sister, my friend, and my sister's friend out to the theater. Of course, my sister and her friend went to "Nutty Professor II: The Klumps", so my dad took me and my friend to this. Despite a brief, screen-darkening technical difficulty halfway through the film (I still don't know what happened), I remember having a good time, especially exchanging little asides with my friend at certain scenes - when Misty says "You act like Pokémon are just things to collect like cards or toys!", I turned to him and whispered "Absurd, isn't it?" I also vividly remember staying behind in the theater to listen to the ending credits music - and booking it towards the exit at top speed when I heard "Polkamon" by Weird Al Yankovic. No offense to the guy, but the song didn't belong on the credits.

I think Jessie, James, and Meowth totally stole this movie for me. Though usually I despise it when they temporarily go good, I forgave them this time because otherwise it would have meant world destruction. And they got a lot of good lines (I'm surprised their "opposite sex" routine was even in the movie), plus their ending discussion with James going "That's good! That's bad. That's good...or is that bad?" made me laugh - even moreso when I found out that they lifted it from an episode of "The Simpsons".

Only downside to this movie - the promo cards. All the theater had was Moltres, so I wound up with three of the same card (my dad didn't want his, and my friend gave me his). At least they made good trading collateral later on - I think one of them was involved in the four-card trade that got me my unlimited Base set Charizard.

On a final note, Slowking's "I could use pants" is one of those rare times when 4Kids' dub alterations actually works (and I still don't know why they cut Tracey's explanation of the chemical reaction between Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres' attacks).

[Heracross]

About the "I could use pants" thing. I personally thought it was hilarious, but what did Slowking say in the original version? It probably wasn't anything very important if 4Kids could change it so easily, but I'm still curious.

[Jesse GS the II]

From what I've heard, he just said something along the lines of "This is getting serious". Like I said, a rare improvement.

[Emissary_Of_Darkness]

Don't forget the movie's most memerable song, Lugia's Song!
*Grabs a ocarina and starts playing*

[Mistystar89]

I loved this movie because it my fav out of all of them! It was so funny, cute, heroic. I give it 10/10! :D And the part with Misty getting jealous was priceless and the opposite sex talk plus "I could use pants." XD

[Juputoru]

I still don't agree with the dub title for this one. Ash couldn't have saved the world without:
The person who drove the boat that took him to Shamuti & Fire Island(forgot her name >_>)
The old man who said that Ash was the chosen one(Otherwise Ash wouldn't have bothered trying to get the orbs)
Melody(for various things. Getting Ash back to Shamuti after leaving Lightning Island(granted, they WOULD have been traveling back from Fire Island had the next person not shown up...) is one example)
Lawrence III(despite the havoc being all his fault, he DID get Ash & co. to Lightning Island, albiet unintentionally)
Slowking(pointed out the shrine where Ash put the orbs)
The ancient people who wrote the legend in the first place(nobody would've known what to do, otherwise)
His Pokemon(helping him get to Ice Island, mostly)
Articuno(froze the ice so that he COULD get to Ice Island using his Pokemon(another unintentional aid))
Lugia(saved his butt when he stupidly ran and stopped in front of the 3 Birds' attacks, helped him get back to Shamuti from Ice Island, etc...)
Team Rocket(helped Ash get the rest of the way to Ice Island's shrine when the fighting of the Birds stopped him from using his Pokemon to get the rest of the way)
The reporters(the propeller from their helicopter was used in TR's raft...thing...)
Misty & Tracey(helped Ash out of the water and up to Shamuti's shrine when Lugia fell)

That's more than 1. A lot more. MIGHT Ash have saved the day without said help? Maybe, but it probably would've taken longer, been more dangerous, and the chance of success would have been lower. All in all, it was a good thing that people(and Pokemon) were there to help him.

One thing I liked about the movie was how 4Kids actually left SILENCE in some parts. Good, now start leaving silence in the main anime. :P

Random tidbit:The 3 shrines you see in the movie(aside from Shamuti's, where the reference doesn't seem obvious enough) are based off Shinto shrines. The pi-symbol-shaped gates are torii(which literally means bird) gates, which people pass through to enter and exit Shinto shrines. The shrines themselves are based off typcial Shinto shrines. Also, Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres are gods in the orignial movie, so it makes even more sense in the Japanese version(aside from the fact that Shinto shrines are distinctly Japanese, of course >_o), since the shrines honor kami, nature sprirts(they're not gods, exactly, though.), and kami-sama(literally "Lord Kami" or something similar) means "god".(and the 3 Birds are both nature spirits(in a way) AND gods!)

[EXP:282]

I got the book which is kinda different because it has people say different things like:
Slowking:''Generations of Slowking safeguard the legend with no problems, I'm on the job two weeks and some has set the whells in motion''
Misty: Ash: Are you coming Misty? ''You are the chosen One not, me. if you want to go on a wild goose chase in the middle of the night, then you're on your own.''
Ash: '' I thought Melody said fetching the treasures would be easy''

Theres plenty more where these come from.
I just thought it would a bit odd.

[Mastercougar]

When I first heard the Prophecy, I thought that Lugia was the Beast of the Sea. It's easy to think that based on what Lawrence says in the begining:

Lawrence III: Disturb not the harmony of Fire, Ice and Lightning
Lest these Titans wreak destruction upon the world in which they clash.
Though the Water's Great Guardian shall arise to quell the fighting
Alone its song shall fail and the earth shall turn to Ash.

O chosen one, into thine hands bring together all three
Their treasures combined tame the Beast of the Sea. Lugia!

From this it seems that the prophecy states that Lugia is the beast of the sea. But what if we write it like this:

Lawrence (reciting): Disturb not the harmony of Fire, Ice and Lightning
Lest these Titans wreak destruction upon the world in which they clash.
Though the Water's Great Guardian shall arise to quell the fighting
Alone its song shall fail and the earth shall turn to Ash.

O chosen one, into thine hands bring together all three
Their treasures combined tame the Beast of the Sea.
Lawrence(Musing): Lugia!

I feel that the word Lugia is not part of the prophecy and therefore we have no proof that it is the Beast of the sea, although Lawrence III seems to think so. His interpetation: If thou bringst the Titans of Fire, Ice and Lightning together, then Lugia shall be thy prize. But I also don't think Lugia could be the Beast because it is already described as the Water's Great Guardian. This time we have proof of this, as Slowking and Melody both call Lugia this when it appears. Therefore, I submit that Lugia is NOT the Beast of the Sea.

But then, who/what is the Beast? I think Prof Oak has already given us the answer. While inside the helicopter, he tells the reporters that the unbalenced fire+ice(water) and lightning could form an swirling underwater current that could flood the planet. He describes it as "a churning 'beast of the sea'." When I first saw 2000, I thought that Oak was barking up the wrong tree. But now that I no longer see Lugia as the Beast, I agree that the current could very well be the Beast!

The prophecy talks about "taming" the Beast of the Sea. Recall the watery looking rainbow thing that rises up at the end, once all is peaceful? I submit that that is the current/beast, no longer a threat!

What do you think?

By the way, Stacee, that's what you have to expect in a novelization. The writers can't use the exact origional dialouge for some reason, and so they make up some of their own. It ends up having a far different result. So get your information from the movies, not the books!

[Geodude]

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the vicious underwater current was the "beast of the sea". Lugia itself said that the beast of the sea "has been tamed" at the end of the movie, and the events had nothing to do with taming Lugia, but everything to do with calming the weather.

[Cyndaquil]

I didn't get that grren haired gal, who was she (i kno shes Karen) but why is she on a boat with Ash n co :S anyone kno anything bout her?!

[Grumpy Older Man]

Uh..she's the boat owner and she's the one that steered the boat for Satoshi-tachi. o_O

[Mastercougar]

Yeah it's pretty obvious that the vicious underwater current was the "beast of the sea". Lugia itself said that the beast of the sea "has been tamed" at the end of the movie, and the events had nothing to do with taming Lugia, but everything to do with calming the weather.

Exactly. Although I didn't get it at first, and I guess not everyone does, since I saw something in someone's sig calling Lugia the Beast of the Sea.

[Murgatroyd]

In the dub, Lawrence seems to be misinterpreting the prophesy to mean he's the "chosen one" who will collect the gods. This is quite different from the original, where he clearly knows perfectly well what he's doing, and does it anyway.

Hi no kami, kaminari no kami, koori no kami ni fureru bekarazu
Sareba tenchi ikari sekai wa hametsu ni mukau
Umi no kami hametsu wo sukuwan to arawaren
Saredo sekai no hametsu wo fusegu koto narazu
Suguretaru ayatsuribito araware, kamigami no ikari shizumen kagiri

You must not touch the God of Fire, God of Ice, and God of Lightning
If you do, Heaven and Earth shall be angered, and the world shall face destruction
The God of the Sea shall appear to try to stop the destruction
But it will be unable to prevent the destruction of the world.
A great[1] trainer[2] shall appear, to calm the gods' wrath[3].

[1]suguretaru has two interpretations. First is the one I have used here, meaning exceptionally good. Second is "chosen as the best", which is reflected in the dub.
[2]ayatsuribito literally means "a person who controls/manipulates". It is explained early in the movie as referring to a Pokemon Trainer.
[3]I have yet to fully figure out what kagiri does to the meaning of this sentence. It may mean that the trainer will calm the gods to the best of his ability, with no guarantee of success.

[Geodude]

Gotta like the dubbers' sense of humor in this movie though...through most of the movie, the line "And the earth shall turn to ash" was assumed to mean it would be destroyed, since we never saw the legend in English written form. But towards the end, we saw the hidden meaning, that it wasn't "ash", but "Ash". That was cute.

[Misty-Fan-Forever]

Yeah I don't think I figured the fact that Ash was apart of the Legend until it was mentioed :P But I was 9 years old when it was released :) Anyway, this is my most FAVORITE Pokemon movie so far, I have sen 1-6. This was my fave ever since it was released because of the story-line and the quotes man they were funny. I now like it even more cuz I'm a Pokeshipper (I wasn't when I was 9 lol cuz I didn't know that it seemed like Misty liked Ash :P i wonder what I was thinking when I heard all those quote Melody said and stuff :S) Anyway so they have the most hints so I love that and I adore the music 'The Power of One' was amazing and I was laughing so hard when 'Polkamon' played cuz I'm a fan of Weird Al and I though he sang it :P Anyway I give it a 10/10 because og the storyline, music, shippyness :P ans just everthing over all. XD!!!!

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

In the dub, Lawrence seems to be misinterpreting the prophesy to mean he's the "chosen one" who will collect the gods. This is quite different from the original, where he clearly knows perfectly well what he's doing, and does it anyway.

See, I disagree. He doesn't think of himself enough for this to be logical. If he were more egocentric, perhaps, but he isn't.

Of course, we've discussed this elsewhere, haven't we?

Speaking of whom, why do people call him a "Pokémon collector" when there's no evidence that he's ever had Pokémon in his life?


As for the explination of the current, that would make some sense, but I think it may be a double meaning. Hasn't Lugia been refered to as the 'beast of the sea' or the 'guardian of the sea' elsewhere?
Not to mention there's no way a current could do all that. Unless it's, ya know, 'magic' or something, but such a thing was never fully explained to my satisfaction.

I also think that Jirarudan was originally meant to be a far more intimidating character than he wound up, owing to the likely origin of his name, the darkness of his score theme, and the preliminary reports about his role in the movie. But as it was, he came off as being greedy at worst, and more delusional.

Oh yes, and one more thing--if he had captured Articuno, he could have gotten away with it. Their powers would have all been in balance again, right?

You know, I wonder--if something *else* happened to knock them out of alignment, it couldn't be set right. Say an earthquake took out one of their islands. Nothing could stop the impending doom.

[RaikouRider243]

Oh yes, and one more thing--if he had captured Articuno, he could have gotten away with it. Their powers would have all been in balance again, right?


Indeed, you are correct. That explains why the entire area was covered in ice. The force of Ice was the only force left of the three. Had he captured Articuno, the three forces would have balanced at virtually zero, but still balanced. After temporarily draining them of their powers, Lawrence simply could have moved them to Ultra Balls or something. That way, they could not resist *true* capture. He then could have used them to get to anf fight Lugia. Of course, Lugia would pwn all three of them. I am assuming it had Recover...

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

If it had Recover, it probably would have used it rather than sinking to the ocean's floor and bemoaning "I...am defeated" or whatever it said.

Seriously, Lugia was fairly weak until the Guardian's Song was played. Which is another thing that makes me think it's also the Beast of the Sea rather than just the current, because the song affected it.

[lugia65]

I liked it because of Jiri (I REFUSE ta call him Lawrence III. Period.), and because Tracey was ACTUALLY in a movie. With a big role. :D

I wish he would've saved the world. ; ;

Same here ^^ I just think Jiraduan is so cyuuute^^ also its my favorite because it has rugia in it aswell;249; Anyway who thought of calling Jiri LawrenceIII...that name totaly degrades him >.> I also enjoyed when melody was playing her flute instrument the music was cool;249;

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

Well, "Lawrence" isn't so bad of a name until you consider the meanings behind both names...

"Jirarudan" comes from "Girardin", a believer in the theories of Rene Girard. Girard has written extensively about the connection between ancient legends and modern problems.

Wheras "Lawrence" means..."crowned with laurel". I think it's a dig at his (admittedly bizarre) hairstyle.

[LugiaMew]

I actually didn't like Lugia until I saw that movie. Lugia means a lot to me. Sacrifice is one of the noblest things you can do, and Lugia, in a way, sacrificed himself for the world.

[Kasumi]

I'm not orriginaly- I love this movie too :) The best scene was this in which Fururu kissed Satoshi :) Ohh! This Kasumi's apoplexy and Kasumi's jealousy! I love it!
Fururu to Kasumi: You get married.
It's so grate! Hiehiehie... :>
My favourite legendary Pokemon of this free Pokemon birds is Articuno. He is pretty cute :P
And this music! Music is the best! And when Kasumi salvaged Satoshi :P

[Pika_who?]

Out of the 4 films I've seen so far, this is my favourite. The animation is stunning and is a great improvement on Mewtwo Strikes Back. Plus I doubt you could go wrong with 4 legendary pokemon! :D

Although the lack of expression on Lawrence III's face made me laugh - the ship is about to crash and he only looks mildly bored?

It would have been interesting to have a commentary on the DVD as well. :-(

[Lupin]

When I first heard the Prophecy, I thought that Lugia was the Beast of the Sea. It's easy to think that based on what Lawrence says in the begining:

Lawrence III: Disturb not the harmony of Fire, Ice and Lightning
Lest these Titans wreak destruction upon the world in which they clash.
Though the Water's Great Guardian shall arise to quell the fighting
Alone its song shall fail and the earth shall turn to Ash.

O chosen one, into thine hands bring together all three
Their treasures combined tame the Beast of the Sea. Lugia!

From this it seems that the prophecy states that Lugia is the beast of the sea. But what if we write it like this:

Lawrence (reciting): Disturb not the harmony of Fire, Ice and Lightning
Lest these Titans wreak destruction upon the world in which they clash.
Though the Water's Great Guardian shall arise to quell the fighting
Alone its song shall fail and the earth shall turn to Ash.

O chosen one, into thine hands bring together all three
Their treasures combined tame the Beast of the Sea.
Lawrence(Musing): Lugia!

I feel that the word Lugia is not part of the prophecy and therefore we have no proof that it is the Beast of the sea, although Lawrence III seems to think so. His interpetation: If thou bringst the Titans of Fire, Ice and Lightning together, then Lugia shall be thy prize. But I also don't think Lugia could be the Beast because it is already described as the Water's Great Guardian. This time we have proof of this, as Slowking and Melody both call Lugia this when it appears. Therefore, I submit that Lugia is NOT the Beast of the Sea.

But then, who/what is the Beast? I think Prof Oak has already given us the answer. While inside the helicopter, he tells the reporters that the unbalenced fire+ice(water) and lightning could form an swirling underwater current that could flood the planet. He describes it as "a churning 'beast of the sea'." When I first saw 2000, I thought that Oak was barking up the wrong tree. But now that I no longer see Lugia as the Beast, I agree that the current could very well be the Beast!

The prophecy talks about "taming" the Beast of the Sea. Recall the watery looking rainbow thing that rises up at the end, once all is peaceful? I submit that that is the current/beast, no longer a threat!

What do you think?

By the way, Stacee, that's what you have to expect in a novelization. The writers can't use the exact origional dialouge for some reason, and so they make up some of their own. It ends up having a far different result. So get your information from the movies, not the books!

If memory serves, isn't it "Thus the earth shall turn to Ash". And conisdering that Lawrence pauses between the legend and saying Lugia then it is obvious that Lugia isn't part of the legend say.

[SecretMew]

This is the second best movie. The plot is good, and the dub version is ok, but still I would hope to see the japanese one... Musics were ok this time, but I don`t think that they are better than in the japanese... I`ll rate this 8/10.

[PokeFan4Ever7783]

I thought this was also a good movie. After seeing Mewtwo Strikes back anything was better then that. Sorry but the first movie really let me down. Thankfully this movie picked me right back up. Much better action, animation, and by far in my opinon a better storyline. I have seen this movie in it's original Japanese Version. It's better than the dubbed.

[kennychan007]

I think that This movie is little romantic becuase As Ash Ketchum fell down from Lugia who was shot down by 3 god Pokemons .Misty Waterflower swam in cold sea water to save him . We can see that Misty love Ash very Much .Also ,the Pokemon 2000 take Myth- taste .Ash use 3 power balls to save the world and Uniserve .Lugia was a sea god ,pet of Poseidon . I think tis movie is edited from Greek Myth.

DO you agree that?huh?

[Lady Renegade]

Same! >:3 Double same! 'Cept furura would need to keep her paws off him. >.> *Grr*
Kenji was in the third and fourth movies too, but it was only for a few moments, sadly. T.T


i love that movie!! mainley cos of tracey...but its got a great story. we need more kenjiness

[BlueEyesUltamiteDragon204]

I really love this movie. Because Ash saves the world and really good music. There is nothing better than this movie. I dare ya. I double dog dare yato see this movie. This is gonna be awesome!

[Koffing Breeder]

This was great movie! Action, Adventure, Humor, just a touch of romance, everything that makes the show and what let the first movie down!!! Its a shame Tracey did *Nothing* in this movie though...
James saying he stays away from the opposite sex makes me laugh so much...
Also Brocks cameo was well put in. Though the second peice of music in the ending credits scares the heck outta me!!!

[Blue_Poliwhirl24]

This is in my opinion the best Pokémon movie (I have just seen the four first movies). Lugia is just one of my favorite Pokémon in and outside of the games. Lawrence III was in my opinion kinda of a strange guy, this maybe because you would like to learn more what happened before him capturing the legendary birds (two out of three, not bad). This movie has got the best script and lines of all the Pokémon moves I have seen. As a true Ash + Misty = True Fan I can say they show (at least Misty does) that she really likes Ash, oh I just love the scenes where Misty tries to denie her feelings for Ash and so on...but I have seen this movie like a thousand times so it gets boring at times, but in whole this movie is the best (but not the best movie I have seen)...

[Batdude]

I finally managed to find this on DVD last week and I remember why I loved it. The one thing I see now that I didn't see before is that Moltres is a dirty fighter that attacked Articuno when it was blasted to the ground AND had it's back turned. Team Rocket were pretty good in this one, especially their ever-so-noble self sacrifice. I'd say Lawrence III was fairly crappin himself when Lugia shot at his lil' flying fortress.

Though the second peice of music in the ending credits scares the heck outta me!!!Hey, 'Weird Al' is a music genius and 'Polkamon' rocks! I love it!

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

I'd say Lawrence III was fairly crappin himself when Lugia shot at his lil' flying fortress.


The thing about him is that he's so...hard to read. He shows basically three emotions in the movie--aloofness, detached regret, and a brief shot of disbelief. I'd say he handled things pretty well, all things considered.

And the funny thing was that if Ash and co hadn't interefered and Jiri had captured Articuno...he would have gotten away with it. The legend never said the Birds had to be loose, just in alignment, which they would have been in captivity.

[Batdude]

I doubt he'd have gotten away with it if Lugia had caught him. Let's say, for instance, that Lawrence had captured all three birds. Lugia would have appeared, right? But as we saw in the movie Lugia could withstand the devices Lawrence was using. Therefore, Lugia would have just shot him up and chances are in that attack the birds would have been released.

I was reading back through this thread and saw Mastercougar's ost about the Beast of the Sea and I have to say that up until recently (until I actually followed what was happening plot-wise) I was under the wrong assumption that Lugia was the beast. Then I heard Oak go off on his little story, and voila.

[Satoshi]

As a true Ash + Misty = True Fan I can say they show (at least Misty does) that she really likes Ash, oh I just love the scenes where Misty tries to denie her feelings for Ash and so on

Guess I'm not the only one who likes the movie mostly because of that.^^

The movie was far entertaining, it actually had a decent plot, unlike the recent AG movies. >_>

[Batdude]

Guess I'm not the only one who likes the movie mostly because of that.^^In all fairness, you don't see that kind of blatant hinting between Ash and May. No-one can deny that. Pokeshipping rocks.

[pheonix]

I like this movie because it shows that Pokemon are smarter than you think unlike Mewtwo.

[Satoshi]

Notice in the original, the collector says no one has ever seen Lugia, but how does he know of it? Or how does anyone else know of it? --; The Pokemon anime never seems to have logic, huh?

[Dimitar]

Someone must have seen it, in order for the legend to exist. And does anyone think the Beast of the Sea might have something to do with Kyogre?

[Phantom_Bugsy]

Good job stealing ideas from Blackjack.

Maybe someone DID see it but they just didn't live to tell?

[Satoshi]

Someone must have seen it, in order for the legend to exist. And does anyone think the Beast of the Sea might have something to do with Kyogre?
No, the beast of the sea was just the massive storms that hit.

Besides, Kyogre wasn't awakened, nor was he created in that matter. --;

[Batdude]

It was just the large 'body' of water that Lugia re-aligned. It'd be like lifting up a road and making it lead somewhere else. The beast of the sea (aka the current of water) caused the storms, disrupting the currents and blah blah *insert scientific waffle* then enter Ash, and wouldn't ya know it, he saves the world.

[Satoshi]

It was just the large 'body' of water that Lugia re-aligned. It'd be like lifting up a road and making it lead somewhere else. The beast of the sea (aka the current of water) caused the storms, disrupting the currents and blah blah *insert scientific waffle* then enter Ash, and wouldn't ya know it, he saves the world.
Apparently, it's everything Prof. Oak explained, right?

[Seijiro Mafuné]

Oy, I just hope Shego comes here soon. Because, jeez... you guys are pretty much stating that any hints regarding Kissshipping are so obscure that we need to take a bunch of 3D glasses just to see them.

On other news, hey, cool. Although maybe it was both Lugia and the current, but in two different ways (Lugia is supposed to save the world with the Chosen One, while the current is supposed to destroy it).

[Dimitar]

Yea, i guess it's the currents.
Oh, and by the way, why do Lugia's wings end in five fingers? It's sorta freaky and I don't remember the movie giving an explanation.

[Batdude]

Oy, I just hope Shego comes here soon. Because, jeez... you guys are pretty much stating that any hints regarding Kissshipping are so obscure that we need to take a bunch of 3D glasses just to see them.

Oh there are plenty of Kissshipping hints, don't get me wrong. It's just that this is one of the rare times where Misty's throwing out hints instead of it always being Ash.

[Satoshi]

Yea, i guess it's the currents.
Oh, and by the way, why do Lugia's wings end in five fingers? It's sorta freaky and I don't remember the movie giving an explanation.
I don't think they're fingers, I think they're just feathers that looked liked fingers. >_>

[Dimitar]

They don't look like feathers at all; what would a pokemon that lives undewrwater need feathers for? I was wondering if they symbolize something, but I have no idea what.

[Satoshi]

They don't look like feathers at all; what would a pokemon that lives undewrwater need feathers for? I was wondering if they symbolize something, but I have no idea what.
Maybe it needs feathers to stay warm in the water? --;

[Batdude]

Well it's clear Lugia isn't your everyday bird by any means. Maybe it just needs some form of primary manipulators besides it's feet? Chances are they probably are just big fat fingers. It doesn't look very feathery at all, but then again neither does Zapdos. It's a hard one to determine, but if it was covered in feathers it'd need waterproof feathers like ducks, geese etc. They secrete special oils and whatnot. [/sciencegarbage]

EDIT: Plus, Lugia has fangs. How many real birds have fangs/teeth like his?

[Dimitar]

Lugia seems to be not only a bird, but a dragon and even a mammal as well since only mammals (not sure) have five branches of bones in their hands, feet, etc. It never came to my mind that it could use its wings as hands as well. And there is no sign of a feather on Lugia's body. It is suggested that Zapdos has feathers because it looks spiky, but Lugia does not. And Lugia's fingers don't look anything like feathers at all.

Btw, duck secrete oil to keep themselves dry and to store air between their feathers to keep afloat, but Lugia obviously doesn't need that.

I've wondered, how can Lugia weigh only 450 lbs??? If it's as dense as other pokemon, then it should weigh tons. In order for it to be so light, it would have to be like a sponge.

[kukkyou_ooraka]

Lugia seems to be not only a bird, but a dragon and even a mammal as well since only mammals (not sure) have five branches of bones in their hands, feet, etc. It never came to my mind that it could use its wings as hands as well. And there is no sign of a feather on Lugia's body. It is suggested that Zapdos has feathers because it looks spiky, but Lugia does not. And Lugia's fingers don't look anything like feathers at all.

Btw, duck secrete oil to keep themselves dry and to store air between their feathers to keep afloat, but Lugia obviously doesn't need that.

I've wondered, how can Lugia weigh only 450 lbs??? If it's as dense as other pokemon, then it should weigh tons. In order for it to be so light, it would have to be like a sponge.

That particular one also swims in the ocean current constantly, never stopping unless something bad happens. I can see how it is so light.

[Satoshi]

It seems none of the pokemon are mammals, considering they all lay eggs.<_<

[Seijiro Mafuné]

They can be mammals, yet lay eggs. Platypus anyone?

[Satoshi]

They can be mammals, yet lay eggs. Platypus anyone?
Mammals don't lay eggs, they give birth. <.< So pokemon are not mammals. And that makes Lugia not a mammal. And a Platypus? I don't think they lay eggs, but if they do, they're not mammals.

[Heracross]

Mammals don't lay eggs, they give birth.<.< So pokemon are not mammals.And that makes Lugia not mammal.And a Platypus? I don't think lay egg, but if they do, they're not mammals.
They do ley eggs and they are mammals. And if you don't think so, you're wrong.

[Satoshi]

They do ley eggs and they are mammals. And if you don't think so, you're wrong.
Platypuses lay eggs? o.0 They might be the only mammals that do.

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/monotreme/Monotremeprintout.shtml

Here's more information. But this is wildly OT.

[kukkyou_ooraka]

Platypuses lay eggs? o.0 They might be the only mammals that do. o.0

Na......ya think? Anywho, what is the topic again you guys? Oh yeah the Movie. It was good with Ash being the hero......whatever.

[Robert]

The whole concept of only one person being able to save the world is a bit cheesey, but I liked this movie. There was a good sense of humor here, and I liked the Ash and Misty comments. The action was great, also - I like seeing the twerps and TR team up.

[Dimitar]

By mammals I mean resembling them. If there are no mammaloids in the pokemon world, then what would Tauros be? A bird? Fish? Reptile? Amphibian? Mollusk? Arachnid? Insect?

[kukkyou_ooraka]

By mammals I mean resembling them. If there are no mammaloids in the pokemon world, then what would Tauros be? A bird? Fish? Reptile? Amphibian? Mollusk? Arachnid? Insect?

Very interesting point there, but the writers dont want to complicate things too much, so they stuck with eggs for every Pokemon.

[Satoshi]

Very interesting point there, but the writers dont want to complicate things too much, so they stuck with eggs for every Pokemon.
Yeah, lets not think to hard about the egg thing. --

If Ash saw Zapdos, Articuno, and Moltres, why did he have no idea what they were in Johto.<.<

[Dimitar]

Yeah, lets not think to hard about the egg thing.

If Ash saw Zapdos, Articuno, and Moltres, why did he have no idea what they were in Johto.<.<
!? Anmesia?! Maybe the movie takes place afterwards.
Well, my point was that the animal groups still remain.

[Satoshi]

!? Anmesia?! Maybe the movie takes place afterwards.
Well, my point was that the animal groups still remain.
But the movie takes place in the Orange Islands. o_0

[Dimitar]

Hey, since Lugia is part psychic, maybe it erased those memories from him an the others?

[Batdude]

That'd mean he'd have to erase EVERY memory of the stuff that happened, and it had a global effect. That'd take some time...

And as for Ash not remembering them, I find that odd. They knew what Silver was during the Whirl Island eps right?

[Satoshi]

Hey, since Lugia is part psychic, maybe it erased those memories from him an the others?
But Lugia didn't erase their memories because when they met the other Lugia in Johto, Ash mentions he saw a Lugia in the Orange Islands.
Maybe he's playing favorites and only remember the rarest legendary he met in the movie.

[Batdude]

Picture it now...

Ash: *sees a Lugia* Oh wow, it's another Lugia! You guys are so cool!

*Articuno shows up*

Articuno: Hey! Remember me?!

Ash: ...wtf? Who is this loser?

Articuno: You can't remember me? But I'm part of that legendary trio-

Ash: Trio? lmfao. I only remember cool legendaries...

Articuno: But you remembered Suicu-

Ash: I am getting REALLY sick of you buddy, whoever you are...

Moltres: *flies down and blasts Articuno* Heh...

Ash: Wow! It's a MOLTRES!

Articuno: x_X

It seems the show only wants him to remember certain things. Then again, and correct me if I'm wrong, but they bumped into Arti and Zapdos a good bit into Johto, right? Well he wasn't really THAT involved with the two of them during the movie. Not to the extent that he was with Lugia, or that he has been with Moltres.

[Satoshi]

Picture it now...



It seems the show only wants him to remember certain things. Then again, and correct me if I'm wrong, but they bumped into Arti and Zapdos a good bit into Johto, right? Well he wasn't really THAT involved with the two of them during the movie. Not to the extent that he was with Lugia, or that he has been with Moltres.
LOL Yeah, but in the movie, when Ash saw Zapdos, he's all like "Zapdos!" So he already knew about Zapdos.

The writers =/= logic

[Dimitar]

I think the episode writers have amnesia O.o

[kukkyou_ooraka]

I think the episode writers have amnesia O.o

All the writers say, " Hai, kenboushou, hai!" lol

[Dimitar]

All the writers say, " Hai, kenboushou, hai!" lol
Uh, what does that mean?
So, I guess no one has any other suggestions about Lugia's fingers?

[kukkyou_ooraka]

Uh, what does that mean?
So, I guess no one has any other suggestions about Lugia's fingers?

:D It means, Yes, amnesia, yes. lol The Lugia fingers thing, I have no coment.

[Satoshi]

Uh, what does that mean?
So, I guess no one has any other suggestions about Lugia's fingers?
They MIGHT be finger, but they seem to be feathers to me, but if they were feathers, why would Lugia have fingers?

[kukkyou_ooraka]

they MIGHT be finger, but they seem to be feathers to me, but if they were feather, why would Lugia have fingers?

The reason for fingers is that since it swims in the water, it has no need for feathers to slow it down, I guess.

[Dimitar]

Yes, feathers do seem illogical for swimming, and Lugia looks completely featherless. If you notice at a close-up, Lugia's got an almost rubbery shine.
Also, but what I estimated, Lugia should weigh about 20 tons, not 450 pounds!
What do you mean by "The reason for fingers is that it has no need for feathers". The lack of feathers doesn't explain why it has fingers.

[Satoshi]

Yes, feathers do seem illogical for swimming, and Lugia looks completely featherless. If you notice at a close-up, Lugia's got an almost rubbery shine.

It might have got that shine from being wet. And I KNOW it has feathers, how do you explain the Silver "Feather" that Luka got in the Whirl Islands?

[kukkyou_ooraka]

It might have got that shine from being wet. And I KNOW it has feathers, how do you explain the Silver "Feather" that Luka got in the Whirl Islands?

The silver feather is a symbol right? I didnt think it was actually a feather, but thats just me. :D

[Dimitar]

I don't think it's a feather either. But another thing supporting your point would be the "something down attack" it can learn from the move tutor (I think). As far as I could tell, "down" was used in the sense of soft feathers. But then again, there is the unmovable, adamant logic of Pokemon. [/SARCASM]

Edit: The attack was featherdance and it could be used in XD after puriying. The descrption talked about down.

[Satoshi]

The silver feather is a symbol right? I didnt think it was actually a feather, but thats just me. :D
Well, I have proof. Remember when Ash and the gang were playing with the baby Lugia in the ocean in Johto?

Luka: "The Silver Wing must be a feather from Lugia."

Remember that? So the "things" on it's wings are feathers.

THE END.

[Dimitar]

I don't know, there are so many illogical things in Pokemon that I really don't know,

[FigmentJedi]

This is my favorite out of the movies...
The Gem collecting part actually inspired part of the plot of a Disney/daikaiju fanfiction I'm working on.

[Akira]

I liked this one.
Lawrence bad guy was cool. Naive and lacked common sense but cool.
Slowking, Melody, Marin, Tracy cool too. Liked the slight romance comedy slotted in there.
The bit where Ash is trying to get to that island with Lugia vs. birds was cool.

[Shego]

I'm here. During in this movie, there are hints of kissshipping. I well aware that Misty express her jealousy, but mostly Melody was express her devotion towards Ashy. And I can prove it.

Click on this website.

http://www.absoluteanime.com/pokemon/melody.htm

And members, please no bashing.

[Satoshi]

I'm here. During in this movie, there are hints of kissshipping. I well aware that Misty express her jealousy, but mostly Melody was express her devotion towards Ashy. And I can prove it.

Click on this website.

http://www.absoluteanime.com/pokemon/melody.htm

And members, please no bashing.
And, who gives a damn? (And how does that bio explain their so called "love", anyway? >_>)

[FigmentJedi]

You know, they never really made it that clear. However, I always viewed the Shamouti Lugia as a higher planed Pokemon and the Whirl Island Lugia was just another one of that species, though of lesser power then the 'Great Guardian'

[Dimitar]

I don't think they are related, and maybe they take shifts being "The Great Guardian". I mean, it can get tiring after a while XD

[wobbanut]

Even though "Mewtwo Strikes Back" continues to be my favorite movie, and I'm not a pokeshipper, I do consider this to be the best movie. Regardless of what may be different plotwise between the Japanese version and the American dub, I feel that everything works perfectly in this movie- the twist on the line about "the world shall turn to Ash", Ash getting picked randomly to be the one to collect the spheres but ends up being the one the prophecy is about, and Ash's enemies helping him out and sacrificing themselves for the greater good. It was definitely Team Rocket's finest hour, and I'm certainly glad their sacrifice didn't end up costing them their lives after all. I also liked all the great lines in this movie. :)

It's strange that I didn't like the movie at all the first time I saw it, because I couldn't understand it at all (that's part of the reason the first movie is still my favorite, because I liked it right off the bat), but over time I've really grown to appreciate it.

[PokeTrainer7783]

I have to say this is probably my favorite movie out of all the Pokemon movies. I thought Lugia was so awesome!

[BlueEyesUltamiteDragon204]

This is my 1st favorite movie becuase I love how Ash saved the world from distruction. I love ;249; , ;146; , ;145; and ;144; because they are my favorite legendary pokemon. I also love ;199; becuase I love him when he says, "I could use pants." It's hilarious. I first watched it on Feburay 2001. This is a cool movie. I AM GONNA SEE IT AGAIN!

[Poliwhirl]

9/10 this movie is great, and my favorite movie character is in it, melody!

[Flying Tropius]

The first time that Ash can actually get a girl

[Aptenodytes]

i loved this movie. best movie made so far in my opinion, although i havent seen the jirachi one.

[RedJirachi]

The apperance of the 3 birds and Lugia were great!Also,why is Brock at Prof.Ivy?

[lightspeed]

I did not watch this movie, I WISH I could watch this movie; I don't know about pokemon at the time this movie was shown. :(:@ I read the movie summary and I really loved it. ;249;, ;144;, ;145;, ;146; how cool!!!:cool:

[PokeTrainer7783]

I think this was the best one out of all the Pokemon movies. Although I liked the prophecy in the original Japanese version. The dubbed was kind of corny.

[Magus]

Also,why is Brock at Prof.Ivy?
Because this movie takes place during the Orange Islands arc, and Brock is living with Professor Ivy at the time.

[CyberCubed]

Obviously, the fact that Tracey is there is a dead giveaway that it takes place in the Orange Islands. Wow. -_-

[Blaziken master]

Did anyone notice that at the end when Delia and Prof Oak appears, Tracy acts like he doesn't idolize him?Continuity error I suppose.

[Kabuto]

Did anyone notice that at the end when Delia and Prof Oak appears, Tracy acts like he doesn't idolize him?Continuity error I suppose.


Oh yeah I never picked that up. He could've just left at that point. But nothing in the movie is said in the show. A little mention but thats it.
Anyway, I wish they still made movies like these. Movies 1,2,3 are my all time favorite Pokemon movies. As for the Lugia in the Whirl Islands, I believe this is the father of Silver. Of course the legends don't have genders in the games, but the Lugia at the Whirl Islands was the mother.

[Sinnoh Champion]

I like this movie the best so far. It has lots of action and adventure.

[Elven Warrioress]

This was by far my favorite pokemon movie (except for maybe Celebi voice of the forest). It was full of action, Lugia was awesome, and I loved the music Melody played on her flute-shell thingy. I watch the movie at least once o a month, and I read the book many times in a row. It was sad in a weird way, though. But I love it! ;249;

[Cobalt_Latios]

Probably the first and only pokemn movie i own. I found it to be great, even my mother(who doesnt really like pokemon all that much) actually found the storyline to be quite decent. What i still dont get is how Lugia uses Aeroblast in this movie and looks something like hyper beam, yet in the newer generation games, Aeroblast looks nothing like hyper beam. Thought there was great comedy in it. Some of my favorites are ones that hint that they actually know that there is an audience, such as:

Jessie: Prepare for more trouble than youve ever seen!
James: Make it double, were on the big screen!
Ash: I dont wanna catch this on video.

But the end sequence with Jessie and James with the "thats good"/"thats bad" really was quite funny. But before they say that is even better:

Team Rocket: But nobody even saw the good we did
Slowking: everybody did, take a look! *points at audience*

Probably my favorite after heroes.

And the question of Lugia's "fingers" might have something to do with the myth its based on, the greek Halcyon.

Anyway's been about 4-5 years since ive seen it, making it that good that i still remember it.

[Fabian _DS]

It was funny!
That music on the end was realy GOOD.
This is a lot of funny:

Jessie: Prepare for more trouble than youve ever seen!
James: Make it double, were on the big screen!
Ash: I dont wanna catch this on video.

[♥Princess Ketchum♥]

This moive was the best XD and not to metion ASH Was so hot

[Fabian _DS]

And: Teamrocket: (dutch) deze keer laten we ons niet afschepen!
*komt melody's schip op hun af*:P

In dutch version, team rocket's voice are like an italian. :(

[dannyphantomhott]

I just watched the movie last night. Its so awesome, I love it. I like how Ash was the chosen one and how Team Rocket and him worked together in order to save the world. So many funny lines, the animation was great too. And I did love the music. So yes def one of my favorite movies.

[Paden]

I watched it just about an hour ago and I thought it was great.
The only problem(which is in movie 3 also)is that TR keeps saying stuff like "Make it double, were on the big screen!"(in 3 he said "Are we gonna be in the next movie?") I give it 9/10.

[Kit Kat]

Yay! I watched this movie just last night again.

This was probably one of my favorite Pokemon movies. My favorite part was probably at the end when Melody played the song, that song is so beautiful, it makes me cry for some reason. xD

Also this movie has a lot of Pokeshipping in it which makes me happy. I loved the part when Melody says "Oh it's just something you're going to have to get use to when the two of you get married" xD Ahh Misty's reaction is hilarious. And my favorite quote of Misty's "Ash is never really alone cause he's got me" Soo sweet!

And I loved how Team Rocket helped Ash and they even let go of Lugia's leg because they wanted the world to be saved even if they had to die. But they didn't...Yippee!

Great movie anyways, I love it!

[PokeMaster Justin]

Loved the American Soundtrack but why can't they play ONE song during the credits:

Pokemon The First Movie: If Only Tears
Pokemon 2000: THe Power of One
Pokemon 3: To Know The Unown
Pokemon 4: Celebrate

The rest I don't care for.

[SudovVoOdO]

Well there was something weird on that movie some kind of weird pokemon a mix of dragonair and articuno I think what was that thing actually no other info.?

[larxanne]

this is my fave movie out of all pokemon ones. i broke my dvd so i downloaded an *illegal* one off of limewire and burnt it 2 disc. does any1 know where i can fix discs as i really dont wanna get in trouble.

*EDIT* it's ok i found a place.

[IRON BLOOD]

One of the great movies that i would have to say. I really did not like the 5th one, it was a little boring to me but i still love latios and latias.

[ManeneMan]

My theory:

Lugia said that only in the hands of the true chosen one will the spheres glow. Hadou power also comes from the hands. I think that Ash's Hadou power lit up the three spheres. But if Ash's Hadou power is EXTREMELY similar to Aaron's then Aaron might've been able to do the same. So if the balance was tipped back in Aaron's time, then the world would've been destroyed because they would've been looking for an Ash instead of an Aaron. This means that Aaron could've stopped the battle between the birds, and perhaps even more easily thanks to pokemon Lucario who is super fast and also knows Hadou!

[PoKmOn_FrEaK]

omg, Team Rocket was hilarious in this movie. I loved the theme of this movie. The whole power of one, 3 spheres will tame the beast of the sea, the legend, etc. Very interesting.

[Jerre]

this is the best movie i saw after the first one. nice one ;)

[Ash's Pika Pal]

My theory:

Lugia said that only in the hands of the true chosen one will the spheres glow. Hadou power also comes from the hands. I think that Ash's Hadou power lit up the three spheres. But if Ash's Hadou power is EXTREMELY similar to Aaron's then Aaron might've been able to do the same. So if the balance was tipped back in Aaron's time, then the world would've been destroyed because they would've been looking for an Ash instead of an Aaron. This means that Aaron could've stopped the battle between the birds, and perhaps even more easily thanks to pokemon Lucario who is super fast and also knows Hadou! Yeah, I think your right.
Hmm....I wonder how they would of turned it around if his name wasn't Ash

It was toching what Delia said about Ash.

Delia:"Well I could of lost my whole world".

[ManeneMan]

Here's another part of my theory:

The three birds could break out into war at any given time, so the chosen one needs to be ready when that happens. I think that everytime the chosen one dies, a new chosen one is born right at the same millisecond. So even if the chosen one was only a few weeks old when the birds started fighting, you could just get some random guy to take the orbs, and leave the baby at the shrine. When you get to the shrine, put the orbs in the baby's hands, and have the baby place it into the shrine, so it is basically the same. This is probably why nobody else in the world has the same Hadou as anybody else, with the exception of Aaron, Ash, and the other chosen ones.

And just because Aaron's name wasn't Ash, doesn't mean you can't use the Japanese version. ;)

[lady_poke]

When I was little, I used to hate "Lawrence III". But now I like him a lot!

[Vaij]

This was by far the best one, but I haven't seen any of the ones after The Voice of the Forest.

[squirtleboy12]

i liked ash heroism spirit but it wasnt that great the movie the orbs and the relationship withuin lugia and the legendary birds is cool so....

8/10

[Maestro Kinético]

Loved this movie, the song and the three birds. Lugia was spectacular, I want to see it again.

[Jhonny]

This is the best movie by far. The story, the birds, LUGIA! LORD OF THE SWANS! Ahem. Yeah the story line was great and it didnt seem like it had 'something' missing, which is a problem with many of the films that come after it

[Rootbeer]

My friend showed me this movie back in May and I figured you'd all enjoy it until the mods notice.

*Link Removed*

[LuciRuki]

Wow a lot of replies XD

This is by far my favourite movie out of all seven. Well I think it has a tie with the first one.

The plot on this movie was EXCELLENT, and how we learn so much more about pokemon. There was a lot of comical humour in this one too. And the fact that it had quite a few legendaries.

The main reason I like this one the most is because my Dad took me to watch it after we went to Zoo petting park, and paddle boats. It was such a nice day ^_^

[eddy99999990]

out of all the ones ive watched this is my 3rd fav film

best bit i think was the bit where ash bob sleiged on a pice of metal and moved by rope being pulled charizard and the others others

the sadest bit i think was when lugia dies

[mewmew202]

Loved this one. Good movie, great music and a little bit of romance.

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

the sadest bit i think was when lugia dies


Lugia didn't die. It was beaten and weakened, but it didn't die.

[dash142]

This is definetly my fav out of all the movies too. Because Lugia is awesome, and the original tri rock. So does Jirarudan, and that awesome ship of his.

[penngrade6]

This movie was action packed! I thought Slowking was funny, and Team Rocket actually did something in the movie, they saved the world. I liked Lugias song, and the villain was okay.

[RedJirachi]

Quite a lot of one sided Pokeshipping in this movie

[LuciRuki]

I love this movie because it has Lugia's song. That song makes me so calm I love it. Plus they have 4 legendaries in it, with a good polt. 9.5/10

[metal mewtwo]

i loved the epic clash between the 3 birds and lugia but what i dont get is how did lugia end up losing one of the battles between it and the birds

[WaterDragon trainer]

I started watching some of these "old" movies again beginning with this one. This movie was pretty great. I thought it was weird how Ash always gets to befriend the legendary pokemon, but after all he IS the main character of the show. It was kinda cool how Lawrence III started with a Ancient Mew Card (a card I got on opening day some years back; I remember giving it the attack, Psychic, with 90 HP damage lol).

[PokeGal99]

I absolutely love the part where Melody is playing Lugia's song in the ceremony/party

[Super-Staff]

Best part of the movie: (After Misty and Melody argue over Ash) Tracey: You girls talking about me?

:3 'Nuff said.

[Ichigo101]

This was one of the first Pokemon movies I saw. It had a good plot and synopsis as upposed to the new-er movies that have been recently released!

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

Best part of the movie: (After Misty and Melody argue over Ash) Tracey: You girls talking about me?

:3 'Nuff said.

Oh I know. I don't care that it was dub added, it was hilarious and fitting. Heck, I don't even remember what he said in Japanese, but it wasn't nearly as good.

[The carter]

this movie was simply the best. There is a reason why so many of the movies after this one tried to recycle the plot and still are recycling the plot.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mrt4zAASbEg

watch and be amazed ;249;

[showers_213]

does anyone know where i can watch the movie on the web?

[d_dan_n]

i love this movie it's one of my favourites!

[bhrettzerda053]

I don't know the story of this one but I know that Ash managed to intimidate that Pokemon collector so much. And I love the part when Lugia fights the 3 bird Pokemon.

[Hooray4Homestar]

I like this movie, but I can't figure out why nobody recgonizes Ash after he saved the world. Well, either way, it was a really good movie.

[Murkronos]

This is one of my favorite movies as far as Pokemon goes... that is, the Japanese version is. The english version sucks, so I won't talk about it, but everything is so perfect in the Japanese version. The music must be the best part. Jiraruden's theme... anyone heard that one? It is quite possibly one of the most ominous and creepy themes I have ever heard, and is also the pinnicle of badass-ness. Then again, it only deserves to be, seeing as Jiraruden is also the pinnicle of badass-ness.

[XxSymbolxX]

omg this movie is sick i watched it 8 years ago in the movie theatres and i watched it again today.I didnt get y misty was jealous of melody cuz i was just a kid,but now i know why lol.

[Flareon1990]

This is my favourite movie of all the 10 I've seen. It just has incredible staying power. The epic storyline, the new Pokemon, and the terrific music. The theme that Melody plays is gorgeous and Ash's relationship with his pokemon and Misty advance somewhat. Something that rarely happens in the Anime.

My favourite line after Slowking prophesizes about 'the world will turn to Ash' is when Ash says, 'Man, it's times like these I wish my mom had named me Bob'. That was such a sweet and unexpected line after such an epic prophecy. Priceless.

[XxabridgedgirlyxX]

I love the movie and the storyline
the prophecy being read at the beginning by Lawrence III or Jiraruden (wich sounds waaaaay better) was really brilliant and I really loved watching this movie, I think I'll watch it again today


This is one of my favorite movies as far as Pokemon goes... that is, the Japanese version is. The english version sucks, so I won't talk about it, but everything is so perfect in the Japanese version. The music must be the best part. Jiraruden's theme... anyone heard that one? It is quite possibly one of the most ominous and creepy themes I have ever heard, and is also the pinnicle of badass-ness. Then again, it only deserves to be, seeing as Jiraruden is also the pinnicle of badass-ness.

Totally right about that Jiraruden is all together the best villain that pokemon ever had (No offence J)
never heard his theme jap theme yet
gonna look for it

And yeah he did just save the world and people go about it like "well, yeah, ok, the kid saved the whole world, no biggie"

overall my fav movie together with Lucario and The Mystery of Mew since the characters actually remember when this happend and the other ones are just merchandise

[Geodude]

(Sorry if this was already mentioned...) Another reason this movie is memorable is that it included one of the single greatest dub lines ever:

"I could use pants."

[HoennMaster]

????? wow it has been a while! Where was that!?

[TheSmiley]

The world shall turn to ash. I LOL:ed so mutch but my friend did´t get it XD

[Cobalt_Latios]

Well, out of pure randomness I decided to pull out my DVD version of this movie, rip it to my computer, transpose it to my iPod and watch it from there.

One of the most memorable moments of this movie involve Lugia's appearance (or revelation, whichever one you prefer), and Team Rocket being good guys for once (at the time anyway).

Now, eight years have passed since this movie's release, and well I decided to do something completely unlike myself and actually make fun of it the whole way through. I figured to just have some fun at the actual age of this movie.

So, let me start:

Now that I watch this movie, one major thing comes back to me; Lawrence III's airship. For being one of the major CGI models that looks so out of place it's laughable, but the one thing that puzzles me to this day is how the hell it manages to stay airborn. If I'm able to acquire enough frames of motion from them, combine them into a gif and manage to get the exact rotation speed, that is just too slow. Sure, it has a ton of props, but in a random way, that's all they are "props".

And, after a while of watching this movie, I realized that in a awkward and twisted way, this movie is talking about Global Warming. Very much out there, but after having seen The Day After Tomorrow, this actually makes sense to me.

The whole thing with Melody and Misty now makes me laugh harder than ever now that I get a bit more of what's going on. Not only that, but I have this distinct feeling that considering Ocarina of Time's release date, it seems completely plausible that the instrument that Melody uses is based off of the Ocarina.

I am suddenly convinced that Pikachu was aware of the whole "inbalance" thing from the start of the movie (excluding Lawrence's introduction).

I caught a new joke said by Meowth that I did not catch before. Rather it was made funnier by Meowth:

James: If the whole world's destroyed, then there all intelligent life will be gone.
Jessie: Which means...
Meowth: Which means... you'll be fine.

Wow, Meowth disses Team Rocket. hehe.

I don't know why, but for some reason, I actually find Lugia's voice a bit... unfitting. I mean, sure I get that it can talk, but it just doesn't sound right. I guess eight years will do that to you.

A question that baffles me: Ash and co. rescue Moltres, Moltres frees Zapdos, Zapdos proceeds to attack Moltres... okay...

An unintentional breaking the 4th wall from the main cast:

Misty: The way you talk, Pokemon are nothing but something to collect likes dolls and stamps.

The irony, in the real world that's exactly what they are. That made me laugh a bit after thinking on that.

It's funny that in the games, Lugia is Flying/Psychic, but this movie makes it up to be a Flying/Water type. Though, to a degree, that's a good thing that it's not a water type. Otherwise, Zapdos would only need a few hits to take it out.

After being on this site for long enough, and knowing the existence of a japanese version, I then began to wonder what the "original" version stated for the legend. In other words, it makes me wonder what that famous line would have actually been saying otherwise:

Legend: ...the world shall turn to ash (which basically means, "doomsday". Of course, you could go with coincidence and use the main character's name which so conveniently fits the description. I'll vote for what the original version was saying).

Now, I know that in most movies, very few attacks are actually used except for the signature attacks. So, I presume the attack Lugia was using was not Hyper Beam but in fact, Aeroblast. So, why is it that ingame it looks nothing like that? Even though the 8-bit games could have never duplicate this, the show could have at least tried to copy it. And by the time the graphics are strong enough to support it properly, the attack is changed entirely...

what gives?

One odd thing I find about Lawrence; he uses good size "nets" to capture Moltres and Zapdos inside, but for Lugia, they're 1/4 it's actual size. Yes, I know his ship was near totaled, but for a "villain", he should have at least had something decent to work with.



Though, the one thing this movie did have though was the best closure. Okay, in a weird kind of way it was (and ironically, the 3rd and 4th movie actually closes about the same way, with Team Rocket). I thought it was genius that Slowking points to the audience saying that: "lots of people saw what you did".

I'll now be truthful in saying the this movie as well as the third had some of the best 4th wall moments yet.

an example:

Jessie: an island?
James: in a storm?
Meowth: I've seen this movie!

But the best one:

Jessie: Prepare for more trouble than you've ever seen!
James: Make it double, we're on the big screen!
Ash: I'll have to catch this on video.

Anyways, nostalgia, with a ton of comic and sarcastic comments to inject even more into this movie, I think it's safe to say that in another few years I'll probably watch this movie again, to remember that sometimes, it's fun to make fun of some things.

edit: checking back some pages, I found some comments to... comment on.

Best part of the movie: (After Misty and Melody argue over Ash) Tracey: You girls talking about me?

:3 'Nuff said.
Hehe, yeah that was a good little quip. My thoughts (while watching it) : you wish...

Though, this does remind me of some kind of oblivious comment. While on the speedboat:

Misty: Cool Move.
Melody: It's okay, you don't need to be afraid, I've been around boats all my life.

I'm thinking: Okay, what made you think in the least that she was "afraid". Oh yeah, the joys of random comments.

edit 2: another random comment that I thought up while watching this.

Someone mentions that Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres are indigenous to the Orange Islands. Okay then, why is it that you can also find them in Kanto?

Also, I looked back a few pages to see my comment, and by pure coincidence, the comments there are nearly identical to the ones here... strange how three years doesn't really do much.

~C_L~

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

I've been trying to figure out the dynamics and logistics of that ship from the moment that movie came out. The only thing I can think of is that it must have gravity dampeners, and that it *may* partially change shape to land (because there's no way that thing is getting on the ground with that bulb sticking off the bottom).

It baffles me, though. At least the Megaliba looks like it *could* take off, and the Battle Pyramid's problem is more heft rather than shape.


The point about both that and the ocarina are especially interesting given that, according to a pre-movie picture, they both underwent massive structural changes. The initial art shows the ship looking like a winged whale and Melody playing a guitar.

[firelovindocker]

isn't ho oh the strongest bird

[Cobalt_Latios]

I've been trying to figure out the dynamics and logistics of that ship from the moment that movie came out. The only thing I can think of is that it must have gravity dampeners, and that it *may* partially change shape to land (because there's no way that thing is getting on the ground with that bulb sticking off the bottom).

It baffles me, though. At least the Megaliba looks like it *could* take off, and the Battle Pyramid's problem is more heft rather than shape.
I suppose there's always the option of blaming the animation in cgi of that time. Considering what they can do now as opposed to what they could do then, it wouldn't surprise me that the animation budget was what caused the slow speed.


The point about both that and the ocarina are especially interesting given that, according to a pre-movie picture, they both underwent massive structural changes. The initial art shows the ship looking like a winged whale and Melody playing a guitar.
I loled so hard when I read that. Can you imagine how different this movie would have been with that? Instead of Melody prancing on the stage with her "ocarina", she would have just sat at the edge of the stage. Not very "traditional island style", but it would have been hilarious. Not to mention Lugia's song. Despite the fact that the opening title sounds it via electric guitar, it would have changed it into some country thing if using the appropriate guitar. Oh god, that would have been perfect. To make the movie sound completely off track.

edit: though I know it probably wasn't an electric guitar, once GH: WT comes out, I am going to attempt to create Lugia's song in it just to "re-enact" that funny scenario.

And Lawrence's ship looking like a winged whale?? OKay... that would have been odd.

I think I might consider sigging that one section of that post, just because of how damn funny it sounds.

~C_L~

[Torpoleon]

This was a wicked movie!

[Sparkle Blitz]

This is my Favourite Pokemon Movie (: I thought it had a pretty good plot, and loved how the 3 birds were included.

[shadowtomb987]

I saw it. It was okay, especially when Misty went crazy over that girl that flirted with Ash.

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

OK, since you all want to see that "concept art" I spoke of, here ya go (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/BlackjackGabbiani/lugiaorig.jpg). Apparently it was printed in a French magazine in an article about how the franchise came back after the seizure incident.

Notice Melody's instrument, the airship (I can't properly call that thing the Hikoukyuu since it's not a "flying palace") Articuno's tail, and the semi-Mayan temple off to the side. Also that appears to be Gary in the foreground (that dash of red looks like his hair), but I'm not sure of the context there since I've never seen the full page.

[Cobalt_Latios]

OK, since you all want to see that "concept art" I spoke of, here ya go (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/BlackjackGabbiani/lugiaorig.jpg). Apparently it was printed in a French magazine in an article about how the franchise came back after the seizure incident.

Notice Melody's instrument, the airship (I can't properly call that thing the Hikoukyuu since it's not a "flying palace") Articuno's tail, and the semi-Mayan temple off to the side. Also that appears to be Gary in the foreground (that dash of red looks like his hair), but I'm not sure of the context there since I've never seen the full page.
Hehe, Lawrence's airship looks like something that Eggman would have made.

Even though I had a preconstructed idea of what Melody with a guitar would have looked like, it's more like a Banjo. I can only imagine how different Lugia's song would have been with that. Dammit, we went from the tropical ocean, down to the bayou's in little more than a banjo string pluck. And then she'd accidentally break one of the strings... now that would have been hilarious.

Okay, that's enough. Thanks for the pic by the way. Gave me a good little chuckle.

~C_L~

[katfairy]

More like a lute than a banjo, says the history geek.

This is one of my favorite Pokemon movies. I loved the visuals, the story was good, and the reactions were believable, down to Ash's panic attack when he realized that he really was the Chosen One. And TR had some of the funniest bits as usual, then capped it off with a stunning act of self-sacrifice. I'd have loved to have seen a bit in the end credits with Ash and co. discovering TR weren't really dead; that would have been sweet.

[Profesco]

I'm glad they went with the Ocarina-type instrument instead... >_>;

I like to watch this movie when I'm bored. Better rerun material than a large chunk of the anime episodes. :D

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

See, I was thinking that the guitar-thing would have had a ukulele sound. Which can be quite lovely when played right and not in a Don Ho-style setting.

[Cobalt_Latios]

See, I was thinking that the guitar-thing would have had a ukulele sound. Which can be quite lovely when played right and not in a Don Ho-style setting.
And I was thinking more of a country style guitar. Oh well, it's still funny anyways. Though, the way she's shown with it, it seems like it could have easily been a miniature harp (the lyre is that the name of the smaller one?) and would have worked well too. Not nearly as portable mind you...

~C_L~

[Sapphire Phoenix]

Um... I love this movie so much. I love the music, the characters, and... Lugia. This is probably the only english pokemon movie I can watch without being completely bored of. I will never get tired of Lugia's song...

[Gravy]

I've been watching this movie this morning and I'll be honest with my opinion here; This poor fellow certainly hasn't aged well.
While as a child I loved it to bits, I'm now a little older, wiser, not even remotely cute, and god-damn. I can see where all those critics were coming from. And I like pokémon and pokémon related theatrical extravaganzas. Now, I know there have been some stinkers since this one, but it's this one in particular that feels really juvenille and slap-dash. I suppose coming from a guy watching pokémon, of all things, that isn't saying much, but at the very least, many of the other movies had some level of depth that would drag you into the story, no matter how much you kicked or screamed. The movie that came directly after this one for example. Or failing that depth, there'd be a good brawl. Darkrai fills that niche.....and...uhh...even that had a little depth, actually.
Also, the animation is pretty poor compared to later entries. Gravy, you arse.

But at the end of the day, does this really matter? Nah, of course not. Because Slowking is still funny.

[Paralititan]

The animation is poor cause the movie is a bit old I think. And personaly, this is my favorite pokemon movie. It doesn't have much character in depth, but I like the legend. And Lugia is one of my favorite pokemon. Lugia kicks ***!

I have a question btw. How did Lugia became the leader of the Birds? Did he create them? Or did the Birds 'develope" from Mews DNA at the same time as Lugia or something? Or did they "develope" apart from each other, but Lugia became their leader cause he was the only one who can calm them?

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

I want to know what makes those three individuals so special. It's said that the Birds of the elemental islands are meant to be outstanding for their species, but we don't hear how or why.

And since we know other Lugias exist, what makes that one so special too? Aside from telepathy and seeming to have a stronger SpAt than the big one in the Whirl Islands anyway.

And how does a Slowking get a job as a shrine guardian?


Moreover the weather is inconsistant. Moltres gets caught and there's a brief shockwave of bad weather that knocks Maren's boat off course and causes brief snow in Pallet...but then we don't see any trouble at all (not bad weather, not disturbed pokemon, nothing) until right before Ash leaves the banquet at *least* two hours later. And even then it's just Pikachu acting weird, up until they get to Lightning Island, which probably took them a good fifteen/twenty minutes.



People are surprised when I tell them that the third movie is my favorite. Just because I like a character doesn't mean I think his source is the best overall.

[Paralititan]

Well, the birds in the movie are clearly bigger than the ones in the anime. When the massive battle broke out between the birds the whole world was in danger. They are clearly stronger than the ones in the anime. I think the weather is incosistent because after Moltres was caught, the other 2 birds were not fighting yet, so the weather is normal. I dunno for sure, maybe it's just a mistake. I think that the legend of the movie is only about that individual species. The birds are bigger, stronger and the only ones that can control the weather on such a large scale (the whole world in the movie), so that is what makes them special. The Lugia is special because he is stronger to, can do telepathy, and I think he is the only Lugia that is so strong that he can cotrol the birds. He is the only one that is a leader of the birds. So the legend of the movie is only about that individual Lugia, that's why he is special. He may be the "alpha" Lugia. The most powerfull one. I hope this helps.

But I just wonder how Lugia became the leader of the birds.

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

Yeah, that doesn't make sense either. The birds fought because they're hyper-territorial...except that Zapdos tries to take over Fire Island (am I the only one who snickers every time that's mentioned?) and Articuno doesn't show up until later.

I notice the dub changed it ever so slightly, by having the computer say that Articuno "is changing course" rather than the original of "is starting to move", and it *almost* worked except that we still don't see Articuno until after that. Which is a shame because "changed course" worked better since it implied that it was already out flying around. And if they're so territorial, it *should* have been out there the second Moltres was out of the picture.

[Paralititan]

Not every pokemon is the same. That may be a reason why Zapdos tried to take over Fireisland while Articuno didn't. That could also be the reason why Articuno wasn't there when Moltres was captured. Btw, what do you think of my theory why the Birds and Lugia in the movie are so special? The birds just are bigger and stronger and are the only one who can control wheater in such a large scale. And the Lugia is so special cause he's the only Lugia who can control them.

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

But territory was supposed to be the reason the three were battling, so it doesn't make sense to make Zapdos and Moltres territorial and not Articuno.

[Paralititan]

Articuno may not be as agressive as the others are. Or it may just be a little mistake. The anime is full of them.

[DarkLegend]

If Roland Emmerich ever made a pokemon movie.... this would be it...]
The Day After Tomorrow... Pokemon Version

[SuicuneKun]

His is my favorite Pokemon Movie of them I have seen
I love Lugia and the music :)

[katfairy]

If Roland Emmerich ever made a pokemon movie.... this would be it...]
The Day After Tomorrow... Pokemon Version

Nah, this was much more realistic.

(I'm a weather geek, and giggled my way through TDAT. Love the Riff Tracks version, though.)

[Slowking[George]]

This movie was awesome, mainly because... Slowking was in it! ^_^
I loved the scene where Ash and Lugia were hurrying back to Slowking's island in order to place the Ice orb in the shrine.

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

Then did you see the short about the Slowking from the movie? It's like three minutes long and very WHAT TH--, but it's fun.

[Herdervriend]

The first time I saw the movie, I was in love of the song, I had to download it, but I managed to find it 5 years later, when it already came on tv...

The movie it self, yeah is good, much action, nice fights, cool POkémon, but a bit overrated with the Ash ****...Plus after my opinion, I want more:xD:

[Cobalt_Latios]

I want to know what makes those three individuals so special. It's said that the Birds of the elemental islands are meant to be outstanding for their species, but we don't hear how or why.

And since we know other Lugias exist, what makes that one so special too? Aside from telepathy and seeming to have a stronger SpAt than the big one in the Whirl Islands anyway.

And how does a Slowking get a job as a shrine guardian?


Moreover the weather is inconsistant. Moltres gets caught and there's a brief shockwave of bad weather that knocks Maren's boat off course and causes brief snow in Pallet...but then we don't see any trouble at all (not bad weather, not disturbed pokemon, nothing) until right before Ash leaves the banquet at *least* two hours later. And even then it's just Pikachu acting weird, up until they get to Lightning Island, which probably took them a good fifteen/twenty minutes.



People are surprised when I tell them that the third movie is my favorite. Just because I like a character doesn't mean I think his source is the best overall.
Oh, and please, let's not forget that infamous ship that seems to be just "floating" there with propellers that move slower than a .gif animation at 15fps. I mean, I don't mind many inconsistencies (some of the ones you mentioned I just now realized), and Lugia being my second favorite helps me to get through it (I'll admit, that's partially why I enjoy this movie). But really, Lawrence III's impossibly flying fortress is the most hilarious thing; flying with some of the slowest propellers to ever be conceived.

I just love to rub that in some more, hehe!

*C_L*

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

I'd have to check the Battle Frontier episodes again, but I got the distinct impression that the Battle Pyramid had to have been built by the same physics-defying engineer.

As I've said, at least the Megaliba looks like it could get off the ground.

[DarkLegend]

Zero's ship (Giratina movie) seems much more plausible....
Lawrence the 3rd should have gotten the MARVEL S.H.I.E.L.D Helli-Carrier designer...

[Blue Snover]

This isn't my favourite of the movies, because i'm not a big fan Lugia or the birds.

The plot was quite good though, but lets be honest, who didn't see the prophecy being about Ash?

[SoLaR-ScEpTiLe]

Oh...the best movie..Lugia and Ash who try to save the world, the 3 birds who fight eachoter...love it!

[Paralititan]

Anyone knows HOW this individual Lugia became the leader of these birds? There are multiple of the birds, and multiple Lugia. Or was he always that?

The plot was a bit weird though. Could have been better.

[Commander L. Halsti]

Lugia's Song was(and still is) epic. The movie was good, but in it lies the crucial proof that Ash is Gary Stu-like. One of the better movies, though.

[suicune lover]

I liked this movie for many reasons.
Great music, Lugias song, awesome birds thats fly around fighting
Only bad thing was Lugia acting like god and ash being the chosen one WAAAAAy too predictable.

[growlithe_master]

i really only like this movie for one reason: slowking. that guy is just epic.

[Virtuos]

" Disturb not the harmony of Fire, Ice, or Lightning,
Lest these Titans wreak destruction upon the world in which they clash.
Though the water's Great Guardian shall arise to quell the fighting,
Alone its song will fail. Thus the Earth shall turn to Ash.
O, Chosen One, into thine hands bring together all three.
Their treasures combined, tame the beast of the sea.
From the trio of islands, ancient spheres shall you take,
For between life and death, o the diff'rence you'll make.
Climb to the shrine to right what is wrong,
And the world will be healed by the Guardian's song.

i just luv that 'prophecy'

[Blue Snover]

I liked this movie for many reasons.
Great music, Lugias song, awesome birds thats fly around fighting
Only bad thing was Lugia acting like god and ash being the chosen one WAAAAAy too predictable.

Very true, even though Ash didn't do all of it himself, because he couldn't play the song.

Not a very good chosen one.

[OfficialAshKetchem]

i loved this movie i think it should win a oscar and it was the most entertaining pokemon movie ever made i i liked seeing Articuno, Moltres, Zapdos and Lugia in action andf i like the music of lugia's song. If nobody can save the world ash ketchem can.

[Pucca_ness]

my favourite movie mainly because i love all the birds and the way the islands are. i also love the song...

I was horrendously dissapointed when i finally got the dvd and watched it all the way to the end credits and Westlife's "flying without wings" came on D= i was destroyed. I hate westlife how on earth did they get onto a pokemon movie.

Anyway aside from that, Team Rocket and Slowking really cracked me up.

Slowking - "I could use pants"

Jessie - "Lets not say goodbye"
James - "Lets just say"
Meowth - "We're gonna die"

best lines ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (i may have gotten words mixed up but i know the jist of that part!"

and the end with james' "that's good" "that's bad" ahhh the moments!!

[suicune lover]

Very true, even though Ash didn't do all of it himself, because he couldn't play the song.

Not a very good chosen one.
Well, I do think Melody deserves some credit. SHE was the one who sand the song, awoke Lugia who healed the birds.
So ya
All Ash did was take some spheres from the islands, causing the birds to go wild

[suicune lover]

Very true, even though Ash didn't do all of it himself, because he couldn't play the song.

Not a very good chosen one.
Well, I do think Melody deserves some credit. SHE was the one who sand the song, awoke Lugia who healed the birds.
So ya
All Ash did was take some spheres from the islands, causing the birds to go wild

[charmanderkesryl]

Thinking about this movie always makes feel great and better. I really like Melody.

[Hibachi]

I thought this was a good movie. I really thought it was a good prophecy, even though it was too predictable that Ash was the chosen one. I really love Lugia's song. Without it the world would not have been saved. I thought Melody was a great character. I really enjoyed seeing the 3 legendary birds battle, but I was confused when they said that they only reside in the Orange Islands. I also did not like the fact that Lugia was chosen to be the supreme ruler over them, and Ho-oh was just ignored. I noticed in the beginning of the movie when Ash, Misty, and Tracey arrive on the island, that Melody refers to Misty by name without it being told to her.

[Paralititan]

I thought this was a good movie. I really thought it was a good prophecy, even though it was too predictable that Ash was the chosen one. I really love Lugia's song. Without it the world would not have been saved. I thought Melody was a great character. I really enjoyed seeing the 3 legendary birds battle, but I was confused when they said that they only reside in the Orange Islands. I also did not like the fact that Lugia was chosen to be the supreme ruler over them, and Ho-oh was just ignored. I noticed in the beginning of the movie when Ash, Misty, and Tracey arrive on the island, that Melody refers to Misty by name without it being told to her.

Lugia is the ruler of the birds, cause Ho-Oh is already the ruler of the beasts. And Ho-oh is not ignored. In fact is has a special role in the anime cause of it''s mysterious appearances. And if Ho-oh got the birds Lugia would have nothing and Ho-oh everything. That would be unfair. Now the both have a trio, so it's fair. Like it or not.

[chibicheater24]

If Ash saw Zapdos, Articuno, and Moltres, why did he have no idea what they were in Johto.<.<
Ash had no clue 'cause this all happened in a movie and the movies have no connection to the anime. They take place at a certain time in the anime, but have no connection to it. That's why no one remembers. 'Cause as far as the anime goes, it never happened.

I think this movie was the best! The second being #4, in my opinion. I love Lugia and Melody and the AshMisty scenes. I kind wish Tracey wasn't in it tho 'cause I never really liked him much. I always liked Brock much better, he was so funny. Even still I loved this one. The music was fantastic! I used to have the soundtrack but lost it.

[Blackjack Gabbiani]

They very much have a connection to the anime. Where do people get that they don't?

[Rezon]

This was by far my favorite movie.

I first saw this when I was like 7 or 8 and when my favorite legendary, moltres, got caught I was like NOOO!!

But still the movie was amazing IMO

[Rex Kamex]

I got the Japanese soundtrack CD for this movie. I don't have time to say everything I want to about it, but... the song "Hateshinai Sekai", or "Neverending World" should've been the ending theme to this movie, imo. It's a song based off of the music played on Melody's flute in the Japanese version. Anyway, it sounds nice, so... yeah.

[Shiny Rokon]

yeah the 2nd worst movie, i still love it but too many dub edits again, like when melody says misty's name when she doesn't know it, dub, they cut the scene where prof. oak finishes explaining how the islands interact and when tracey sees that moltres's cage is going to explode (poor guy didn't really get any lines anyway and they take one off him). The music was nice but over the top...the end dub edit with jessie james was funny though. I like Lugia, he didn't rule the birds, the birds were just fighting over territory cause the collector stuffed them up, lugia tried to stop them, and only really assisted ash to get the treasure. The worst part about this movie was the fact that the japanese version was about how ash couldn't have done it without his friends and the english version was about the power of one person, and to top it off to put his name in the prophecy, why did they do that, the minute you hear ash its like ... oh no. As if they would write a prophecy and put his name on it, especially such a common name. Yeah the japanese version was way better, at least they dub them better now.

I personally like Minna ga Itakara off that soundtrack best, but Hateshinai Sekai would have been nice too.

[Trainmaster718]

Amazing movie. Easily my favorite out of all Pokemon movies. The animation was beautiful, The legendary birds were nicely incorperated, and Lugia was just fantastic in every way.

Favorite Scene: When ash had Bulbasaur, Squirtle, and Charizard working together to help him get to the Ice Island sphere, and the Legendary Birds start attacking him. Then Team Rocket comes in on their homemade speedboat and help him get across the fozen ocean.

[celebitrainer]

There was one thing I noticed about the names of the islands: Fire Island, Ice Island, and Lightning Island. Isn't Fire Island a real place?
Also, I found it hillarious when Ash says "well right now I'm wishing that my mom had named me Bob instead of Ash." That would have sounded much wierder in the prophecy, wouldn't it?

[pokedexfiller]

the song was cool ,but i was stupid enough to think went it said the world will turn to ash i thought it meant literal ash not ketchum

[XxM!styxX]

I noticed that Tracey barely spoke in this movie. HAHA it was like a hint to his leaving the show almost completely (at least, until Pokemon Chronicles). I liked Tracey, he was a Pokeshipper! :D And he made it a whole lot more obvious than Brock (but then again Brock was used to it more than Tracey).
Anyway, this movie is about my favorite. I still watch it after all these years and can't get over all the AAML in it. I've seen the dubbed and subbed versions and liked both equally, they have just as much Pokeshipping in both (so dont tell me its dubbed) ! I was kind of sad when I saw that in the trailer of Revelation Lugia there was a scene where Ash jumps off of a cliff to catch Pikachu and Misty tries to run after him but they cut the scene from the movie. :'( that would've been cute to see!
I do agree, a lot of unneccessary cuts were made in the dubbed version but still, favorite movie.
Favorite part:
Misty: And Ash is never really alone because he's got... me.
<3

[DarkLegend]

Best Pokemon OST EVAR! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1LEISP6e9c&feature=PlayList&p=4344A4F83DE6D529&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=23)

Pokemon 2000 is easily one of my favorite animated movies. 3 reasons.
1. Lugia
2. Westlife
3. Jirudian i.e. a non cliche villain

A special shout out goes to Donna Summer as well for singing the amazingly beautiful, "Power Of One" song
Now if only Celine Dion sang a song for Movie 9. My Heart Will Go On. If Pokemon didn't become so cliche and tired, I'm sure the current movies could have had some of the best soundtracks done by some of the best artists around.

[Rex Kamex]

^ If only "Power of One" (or whatever that last song that played) was the only song that played during the American credits. I like how in the Japanese movies they just play one song for the ending. (Oh wait... they don't anymore... They have some kind of coloring contest winners thing at the end of the recent movies, and those have, recently, used their own songs.)

Kinda weird that I, an American, have several Japanese Pokemon CDs (including movie sountracks) and not one American CD. Not that I care to get one...

the song was cool ,but i was stupid enough to think went it said the world will turn to ash i thought it meant literal ash not ketchum

That's what the (American) audience was supposed to think, so... yeah.

[Paralititan]

Ash had no clue 'cause this all happened in a movie and the movies have no connection to the anime. They take place at a certain time in the anime, but have no connection to it. That's why no one remembers. 'Cause as far as the anime goes, it never happened.

I think this movie was the best! The second being #4, in my opinion. I love Lugia and Melody and the AshMisty scenes. I kind wish Tracey wasn't in it tho 'cause I never really liked him much. I always liked Brock much better, he was so funny. Even still I loved this one. The music was fantastic! I used to have the soundtrack but lost it.


The movies do happen in the anime. They just never talk about it. Do you realize how stupid it would be to mention the movies everytime something happens. It would be like:

"yeah, but this adventure was nothing compared to when we faced the Birds and helped Lugia save he world"

Everything in the anime would sound boring and look like nothing compared to the movies. Plus, there is no reason to suggest they did not take place. Ash and James both mentioned Lugia in the anime during an episode.

[Rex Kamex]

^ Generally speaking the movies are done in such a way that they won't have a huge effect on the TV show. Not that they never really happened, but that they're not that consequential to the future of the show.

[Sayho1234]

What I don't get about the movie is why isn't Tracey seen on the Japanese poster of it? Was he not a popular character in Japan or something? It can't be because the Americans didn't like Tracey because Tracey hadn't debuted in Pokemon yet in America by the time of the Japanese release of the movie, so the creators of Pokemon wouldn't know yet if we really were "offended" by Brock's eyes making him look Asian & if Tracey were a better replacement character or not.

[CyberCubed]

What I don't get about the movie is why isn't Tracey seen on the Japanese poster of it? Was he not a popular character in Japan or something? It can't be because the Americans didn't like Tracey because Tracey hadn't debuted in Pokemon yet in America by the time of the Japanese release of the movie, so the creators of Pokemon wouldn't know yet if we really were "offended" by Brock's eyes making him look Asian & if Tracey were a better replacement character or not.

Brock isn't on the DP movie posters either. Its the fact that Tracey/Brock hardly do anything in the movies, so they're excluded on the posters.

Tracey didn't do jack in Movie 2.

[The 4th KIRA]

My favorite movie. I didn't even notice the dub edits but I really don't care it's still good.

A human villian for the first time, and one with a simple purpose; to collect rare Pokemon.

I like how 4 Legendary Pokemon appeared and how they all served a purpose. I enjoyed their brief battle and the way a song was the key to ending the crisis.

10/10

[pikaboss44]

Best Pokemon movie by far. Everything had a point instead of being thrown in for random appearances. Even Team Rocket

[Ash-kid]

The legendary birds were so strong.

great that Ash stoped them.

And i loved to see Lugia, i think it was stronger then the legendary birds.

8/10

[Manaphyfan12]

This movie is airing in NY on WLNY 10/55! I will tell about what I thought of the movie when I see it!

[halloweenghost]

They played this last saturday (actually sunday)at 3 on themorning on my CW station..watched tyhe last half of it.. and well they played it again on WGN at the same time,..same day as last week lol so I just got done watching it about 15 minutes ago :P

So i watched the whole thing... been years since I've seen this movie and it made me smile like i did way back when I saw it in theaters. I liked Lawrence the III.. I like his whole collector deal..not just the typical villain. the end with Melody playing Lugia's song gave me goosebumps like it did long ago :)

thats good!

But the boss will be angry!

Thats bad...

But we'll start our own team!

Thats good!

But we don't have any money..

Thats bad...

But we'll steal it!


Thats good.........or is that bad......oohhh..

[Richards22]

best movie out of all of them