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bobandbill
1st August 2009, 9:00 AM
++The Fan Fiction Club++




Welcome to the brand-new Fan Fiction club! (Now endorsed by Fishy Ink.) Whether you hide in dungeons composing grand tales based on a fandom, or even just read them, then this is the place for you! (Yes, you, in front of the computer screen).


Here, you can discuss anything to do with Fan Fiction, or writing in general - plot, characters used, writing styles, and which Pokemon you use in your fics - or take up a writing challenge, or impose a deadline on yourself in your writing projects, which the other members can then 'kindly' remind you about.


This is the fifth version of such a club - Buraddo Aipom, the owner of the previous one has granted permission for a remake. First off, a list of the previous four versions - let's make number 5 the best!


1st Fan Fiction Club - Owner: Tale (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=90148)
2nd Fan Fiction Club - Owner: Ledian_X (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=97402)
3rd Fan Fiction Club - Owner: Psychic (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=277165)
4th Fan Fiction Club - Owner: Buraddo Aipom (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=380848)




Fan Fiction Club Rules
For they're just that awesome.





All Forum rules (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=397567) and Club Forum rules (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=375214) apply.

To join, you have to have some sort of interest in Fan Fiction (Otherwise, what are you doing here?) Whether you write it, or just read it, etc, doesn't matter.
No advertising allowed of your fics. The exception to this is when you first post here to join, in which you can mention and link to your fanfics - but after that, no linking, please. You are also allowed to mention in posts that you have updated your fic, without links, but don't just post to say you updated - include it with something else as well, such as a response to a topic. (As that goes against the one-liner club rule).
No reviews or criticism (constructive or not) of fics here, please - that's what their fic thread is for. You can talk about fics, but reviews go there.
If there is a new, active topic (less than a day old minimum), than please refrain from making a new topic - no need to have several running around at the same time. Otherwise, go ahead and make one!
Respect others - don't knock down other people's beliefs, whatever it may be. Everyone is equal here.
If you wish for a 'deadline', simply post requesting one here (remember the no-one-liner Club rule, however). Same goes for reminding others about their deadlines - post it with something else (e.g. reply to a topic), or do it outside of this thread.



To become a member


If you want to become a member - just ask in the thread! As long as you have an interest in it, you're welcome. When joining, please mention what is your interest with fan fiction/writing, and feel free to mention any fics you have made as well. You can also mention your favourite authors, books, yourself, whatever you like (as long as it's relevant).




Member's List


bobandbill
purple_drake
Diddy
FlamingRuby
Bay
JX Valentine
LightingKimba
Ysavvryl
Yonowaru in Chaos
Zadros
TurtwigFan1
Araleon
Dramatic Melody
Blackjack Gabbiani
Mimori Kiryu
Griff4815
. IC Ghost .
katiekitten
elyvorg
Breezy
Dilasc
Divinity_123
Blue_Mew22
PokemonHero
Luphinid Silnaek
Pikablu Lv.X
SlowCrow
Mrs. Lovett
ben_pokemon
Silawen
starliteevee
Armorandonomon
solovino
Void of Hearts
tatewaki2000
Intelligence
poke master 13
MasterCharizard15
Double-oh-Platypus
Rixec
Armored Zangoose
SilentMemento
Scytherwolf
FlameRose
Gardevoir Girl
Aura Master
GoldFlareon
//Mix\\
Jackintosh
Aladar
Giratina!
maxelle
Pokemon Z RPG
Toastedbagel
Venomfrog
Pikachu Kid
SilentTogetic
Saffire Persian
ESPNfanatic35
harryheart
11tjcoulombe
The Great Butler
rokettololi
firestar319
Psychic
Charoshi
Moogles4ever
Malph
FireTheAbsolLord
houndourm
*Bliss~the silver ranger*
Crystal
blargin7
matt0044
fango pango
LyreOfAutumn
TristaPaige
shinjiniisan
Darth Osiris
LinksOcarina
SerenadeSP
Maya Fey
Autistic Lucario
catzeye
Draco Malfoy
Dragonfree
Wild Dragonite
phoopes
GalacticMagmortar
Sgeckledorf Spoongeblorb
Chibi Pika
Peters
Kissmygrass96
destroyer39
iCakeify
Dawn_Hero







Random Writing Challenges!


Every so often there'll be a writing challenge for you to do, if you wish. A record for those who have succeeded will be kept. Post it here once completed - unless you write enough and wish to post in the Fanfiction Section, in which case, link to it here. Feel free to do any previous challenges as well.

Judging process currently ongoing of the FANFICTION POKEMON POV CONTEST! (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=465952)


Previous challenges:
Write a scene of a cookout/barbeque being prepared or attended by some Gym Leaders and their Pokemon.









People who did it:

Diddy - http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?p=10502719#post10502719
The Dozen Red Roses Challenge - make as any reviews as you can on Valentines' Day!








People who did it:

bobandbill - 6 reviews
Giratina! - 12 reviews
Dream-Eating Drowzee - Pick a character, any one you own, with an at least somewhat unpleasant past. Now imagine they're locked in a room with a particularly malevolent Drowzee, who is in the process of using Dream Eater to dig up their worst nightmares. What do they see?

purple_drake: Nightmare (http://serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?p=11162432#post11162432)


Deadlines


If you wish to request a deadline - a date for you to complete a review/beta/chapter/story by then, then simply ask for one here, and it'll be added to the first post! This is for those authors who want to keep to a schedule. But beware - if you take one, and fail to complete it... well, other members may shout at you about it. Kindly, of course. >:] Of course even just getting part of your aim done due to the deadline is better than nothing!

Please shout at remind people nearing their deadline/failing to complete within a post (i.e. don't just post that - include it with a reply to a topic, for instance), or VM them.

Current:



SerenadeSP - Finish writing Chapter 7 of Heroic Potential before the end of April

bobandbill - 23rd Janurary - write out a chapter of TRoPC.

Toastedbagel - Aim is to finish the second chapter of "On The Road" by March 7th

Blackjack Gabbiani - Aim is to finish Obsession 20 by the 30th of November.

Ysavvryl - Aim is to finish a Halloween story by the 20th of October - COMPLETED.

bobandbill - Aim is to complete the next chapter of 'The Retelling of Pokemon Colosseum' by September 20th - COMPLETED.

Mimori Kiryu - Aim is to complete a 'secret project' by September 1st - COMPLETED.

purple_drake - Aim is to finish 'The mighty fallen' by August 31st.

SlowCrow - Aim is to write the rough draft for the rewritten prologue for Bug III by August 22nd.

Breezy - Aim is to finish reviews for the HG/SS One-shot contest by August 9th - COMPLETED






And that's all!
List of topics had:

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?

How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

You get offered a deal for your fanfic to be made into a movie. Would you take it or leave it?

Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)

Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?

Do you think Pokemon should be more animalistic, or human-like?

What's your experience with fanfiction.net?

Have you ever rewritten a fic?

What's the best way to avoid the site censoring swear words?

What, in your opinion, qualifies as a Mary-Sue?

What sort of themes do you put in your writing, if any?

What's your opinion of the overused/underused Pokemon philosphy?

How do you like to start/end chapters? Do you end with cliffhangers or finished episodes? Do you start straight in the action or work your way up to it?

When writing, do you prefer going by anime, game, or manga canon? Why?

Do you put a lot of research into your writing?

What is so appealing about death?

How long/short is your longest/shortest chapter or story? What makes them shorter or longer and how do you make it work?

What fandoms do you want to/have write/written on besides Pokémon?

How do you write battles or believe a battle would go with a water pokemon without legs (e.g. Goldeen) in battles on land?

What do you hate the most in/about fanfics?

What's your current status concerning fanfics?

Have you ever done Pokemon POVs before, and what are your thoughts on them?

Would you say that writing FanFiction has improved your literary or writing skills in general? If so to what degree?

What are your writing plans for this next year? New projects? Revisions? Completing fics that are currently in the writing stage?

Since the POV One-Shot contest has nearly finished, what should be the next Fanfiction contest?

How many fics will you work on at once?


Current topic/s:
Are there any fanfiction authors that have inspired you?

purple_drake
1st August 2009, 12:12 PM
I SHALL BE THE FIRST. \o/

I ... don't think I'll bother linking my fics, one because I'm lazy and two because they're already in my signature anyway. XD

EDIT x2: I also feel like an idiot, because for whatever reason I did not actually see the part that says what to post in your initial post. Blind, Pur is blind.

Mainly my interest is in the writing (mostly Pokemon, with a boatload of other fandoms; too many to get into), but I enjoy reviewing too, when I have the energy to do so. I don't read as many fics as I should (aside from for reviewing purposes) because my perception of the Pokemon fandom tends to be fairly specific, and not many people seem to write about the characters I'd like to read about.

My main literary inspiration's probably Tolkien, though I've recently read a number of Ursula Le Guin's essays on the nature of science fiction and fantasy, so I'd count her too, even though I've never actually read any of her fiction. Yet.


If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Well! It depends on what the procrastination is about, really. Recently I discovered that getting out of the house does wonders for my motivation to write; without my laptop in front of me I don't get distracted by games and whatnot, and without being at home it means I'm not comfortable enough with my surroundings to just ... fall asleep or something.

Mostly I go to cafes; Gloria Jeans, an Aussie coffeeshop, is my favourite 'cos they make good hot chocolate. Otherwise, there's an all-night petrol station/Subway/coffeeshop less than twenty minutes walk from my house, so I go there every day to write for an hour. Yay, the JKR method of writing. XD

I'm still having trouble on the editing part, though. Since I handwrite most of my stories now, I need to get up the motivation to type it all up (and my handwriting is terrible, so that doesn't help). Then I need to edit it properly; since, while I'm handwriting, I'm not concerned with the finer details as much as getting it all down on paper, with the expectation that the fine-tuning will happen as I type it up, it usually means there's tons of plot-holes and usually some extra research that needs to be done at that point. And so it is all the more daunting.

I should have someone give me deadlines. That seems to work.

EDIT: Actually, that may not be a bad idea; may as well use the Club for something other than discussion (not that that's bad or anything). So, could we do that? Say if someone needs motivation to write/edit/whatever stage they're at something, they could post a deadline in the Club of what they need done, keep a record in the first post, so when the deadline approaches the other members can jump on them about it.

Diddy
1st August 2009, 5:04 PM
GARRR!!!!

I'll join! Why not? I write fanfiction, I read fanfiction... might as well have a good place place to discuss the darn thing.

Procrastination, I believe, can be fixed by getting off your arse and starting writing!!!!! Sit yourself in front of that computer screen until you write words, any words will do! That and having a nice cup of tea by the side of your computer to get those synapses firing!

FlamingRuby
1st August 2009, 5:23 PM
Count me in!

Oddly enough, I find playing games and/or discussing the project with someone really helps with procrastination

Bay
1st August 2009, 5:26 PM
*raises hand* I'll join! And man, didn't notice BA did another fanfic club thread. *_*

Well, I write and review Pokemon fanfics. The list you can find in my Author's Profile. :P I recently finished my most ambitious chaptered project, Nothing, Everything, basically a Pokemonized version of Da Vinci Code. I'm taking a bit of a break from writing now because NE wore me down. XD; I'm still reviewing full force though, especially with me judging for the Heart and Soul contest.

I do read fics from other fandoms too, mostly Naruto and Ouran High School Host Club. The only fic I wrote that's not Pokemon however is this very short Naruto one shot called Clay Puppet, which is basically something inspired from one part of the Dark Knight movie. XD Would love to do another Naruto one shot, but no ideas at the moment. I have an idea for a short Naruto chapter fic actually, but I don't think I'll be able to have time to write it and also some plot holes I need to go over and try to fix :x



If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Most of the time either read another story or read what I have written on my story so far to get me inspired to write again, basically.

And purple drake, that's not such a bad idea, actually. Might need that deadline so that I can get writing this one shot for the Heart and Soul entrants to be occupied with while I get the reviews done. XD

JX Valentine
1st August 2009, 5:30 PM
Ooh! Shiny fanfiction community! Hello, there! I do a bit of both (reviewing and writing, that is), but at the moment, I'm focusing on my reviewing, in part to get back into it. A list of my writing is currently located here (http://banzaisebastian.livejournal.com/277144.html), but some of it will eventually leak onto SPPf once I get a bit more into the community. It's mostly Pokémon work (because that's my comfort fandom), but I'm trying to branch out into other fandoms. Just need to get a better feel for them, you know?

Also, in terms of favorite authors and whatnot, Neil Gaiman is my god.


If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Pfft. This is assuming I actually get over it.

Seriously, I'm pretty much in the same boat as purple_drake right there. With my computer, I don't write much because I get distracted by shiny objects. Without, I've seriously written an entire, thirteen-page chapter in a single sitting. So, the first thing I do is take a long walk with a pen and notebook. The walk's good too. It helps me clear my mind of all the other random thoughts and focus on the story/whatever I've yet to finish. Then, eventually, I reach some form of destination (parks, the library, the on-campus cafe... whatever), sit down, and just write.

It also helps to keep reminding myself that I need to get something done. For example, I've written about half of a chapter of a fanfic I'm currently working on just by saying to myself last night, "Well, uh, I've only posted one chapter of this fic this month, so."


EDIT: Actually, that may not be a bad idea; may as well use the Club for something other than discussion (not that that's bad or anything). So, could we do that? Say if someone needs motivation to write/edit/whatever stage they're at something, they could post a deadline in the Club of what they need done, keep a record in the first post, so when the deadline approaches the other members can jump on them about it.

I second this idea. Oh, what I could do if I could just stare at the deadline and go, "Yeah, this is going to bite if I put it off any longer."

LightingKimba
1st August 2009, 7:00 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa! A new FF club?! Why wasn't I informed? I wanna rejoin again, mebbe... Sure, yes.

And uh, let's see... This (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4574496/1/Like_a_Line_Drive) is an example of my work, and Stephen King being my fave author.

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Ah yes, the sweet delight of being lazy... Usually, I only get my writing mojo back whenever I see a good movie (The first Gurren Lagann movie is a big one that snapped me back after my break) or even after reading a nice book or comic.

Really, I just need to get inspired to get back to writing, though often, it's more or less I need a good laugh to back in.

Ysavvryl
2nd August 2009, 3:06 AM
I would like to rejoin too. I write, read, and review fanfiction. Most of the time, I try to keep links in my sig, so that's where you'll find whatever I'm actively updating. Favorite author... I've got lots, but Terry Pratchett stands out at the moment.

As for procrastinating, well, I make myself write a certain amount every day. It's become such a habit that if I don't write something, I get nervous and start typing on a non-existant keyboard. Heh...

I do have a problem with getting distracted by a new story idea when I'm supposed to be editing/working on another piece. I try to set myself limits, by saying I can only write this much on the new story before I have to work on the next chapter of the older one. Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't.

That deadline idea sounds like a good one. Ever hear of Write Or Die? I haven't been able to use it myself (dumb computer), but that's apparently helpful. It should be on the internet somewhere...

bobandbill
2nd August 2009, 7:34 AM
Yay, people. All accepted. *updates first post*


I SHALL BE THE FIRST. \o/Indeed you are. Feel proud!

My main literary inspiration's probably Tolkien, though I've recently read a number of Ursula Le Guin's essays on the nature of science fiction and fantasy, so I'd count her too, even though I've never actually read any of her fiction. Yet.
I've read some of her essays as well, actually. Her fictions are quite good as well.

As for the topic:

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

I don;t Usually, eventually, I will deliberatly switch off my internet, close other distracting programs, and just sit down and write. Either that, or think out the whole chapter in my head/on paper first, slowly but surely, and then go for a mass typing spree. Afterwards I tend to have a fiar bit of cleaning up to do though... music also seems to help at times, I find.

My main problem though is finding time for it though, which I haven't had too much of - probably having my longest delay to date now. *shakes fist at school, enemy number 1*

I should have someone give me deadlines. That seems to work.

EDIT: Actually, that may not be a bad idea; may as well use the Club for something other than discussion (not that that's bad or anything). So, could we do that? Say if someone needs motivation to write/edit/whatever stage they're at something, they could post a deadline in the Club of what they need done, keep a record in the first post, so when the deadline approaches the other members can jump on them about it.I do declare this to be a smashing idea! Others agree as well... so consider it implememented. If you want a deadline, merely post away, and it'll be updated to the first post. Close to the deadline (say, within a few days), you may go and spam remind the person about it (either here as part of a post - Club no-one-liner-rule, yo, or via VMs). And if they fail it, spam some more, I suppose. >:]

Any think there should be changes to this?

Yonowaru in Chaos
2nd August 2009, 7:58 AM
I'd like to rejoin, even though I'm not really writing anything at the moment. I have four ongoing fics, technically, a general one-shot/writing-exercise thread which rots away in the bowels of that Non-Pokemon fics nether-region, but all of them are pretty much stagnant, though only one of them is incurably Author's-blocked. The others...one's undergoing a stagnant redux, the other a proposed restructure and the third probably doesn't have a lot of potential to mature to anything. A sixth one came in the form of a disqualified HGSS one-shot entry, which at least got me back into writing.

Ah well, I have a fifth one in planning :B

So yeah; joinage please :]



If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

I live with it, I guess, or I just give up. Last year's NaNoWriMo was good in that it set daily deadlines, even though it was a bit of an overkill (1600+ words a day o___o;; ) so it wasn't that successful for me in that respect. As of yet, procrastination is a hard habit to wear off, and one that doesn't come off easily.

Diddy
2nd August 2009, 9:40 AM
I was reading My NaNoWriMo entry the other day.

All seven pages of it! Yeah, I kinda got derailed and stopped about four days in. It was fun though, very Russian, and very apocalyptic!

Don't think I'll be up to it this november, unless I unofficially make the journey fic that I'm writing as the subject and use all november to speed up the progress.

Zadros
2nd August 2009, 10:21 AM
Posting 3 links gets my attention XD

I'd like to join =) I had a fic once, but that didn't last so long, and I haven't posted my latest work here yet.

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?
Uhh... come to think of it, I guess I don't XD That would probably be why I've been planning for over a year and not gotten much written. Will be paying attention to other answers to this question...

purple_drake
2nd August 2009, 10:23 AM
That deadline idea sounds like a good one. Ever hear of Write Or Die? I haven't been able to use it myself (dumb computer), but that's apparently helpful. It should be on the internet somewhere...

I HAD NOT BUT NOW I HAVE and I have bookmarked it. XD Scary, but useful--but that's probably the point.



Indeed you are. Feel proud!

I've read some of her essays as well, actually. Her fictions are quite good as well.

I am, I am! 8D

*nodnod* They're really interesting, especially because they completely justify and vindicate fantasy and fiction. I've been using them as a resource for my thesis, which touches on that subject--the nature of fantasy writing/its uses, etc.

'The left hand of darkness' was used in one of my uni classes--as an excerpt, at any rate--and between that and having read one of her self-critiquing essays on it it's made me really interested in that one especially. He-shes FTW. XD



I do declare this to be a smashing idea! Others agree as well... so consider it implememented. If you want a deadline, merely post away, and it'll be updated to the first post. Close to the deadline (say, within a few days), you may go and spam remind the person about it (either here as part of a post - Club no-one-liner-rule, yo, or via VMs). And if they fail it, spam some more, I suppose. >:]

Any think there should be changes to this?

Yay! In that case I submit that I'll finish editing 'The mighty fallen' by August 31.

Though I do ask: can deadlines be submitted on their own, or do they have to be in a post as well?



Last year's NaNoWriMo was good in that it set daily deadlines, even though it was a bit of an overkill (1600+ words a day o___o;; )

I dunno ... my average is about 1100-1300 words in an hour, and that's a regular thing. Another 400 words or so a day doesn't seem like much. Maybe you just need to figure out what your motivation is? As in, when you do write steadily, what is it that enables you to do so? Setting, atmosphere, music? And then see if you can emulate it?



Don't think I'll be up to it this november, unless I unofficially make the journey fic that I'm writing as the subject and use all november to speed up the progress.

I was planning to do that with the creative part of my thesis. XD Even though that part is only meant to be, y'know, 10,000 words and not 50,000 ... but hey, it's a story, so I figure I'll be able to use the extra word count for when I continue writing it.

TurtwigFan1
2nd August 2009, 7:26 PM
I'd like to join please. I love to read fan fiction; it's great seeing how people can transport us to different realms. I also like to write fan fiction, although I'm not much kop at it :D

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

I just read through my piece so far, and then an idea usually comes to me.

Araleon
2nd August 2009, 10:05 PM
Ooh, Fanfiction Club. May I join?

I'm interested in writing, and I've posted a one-shot (don't like it...), submitted one to the Johto Contest, and I've planned a myriad of fics. The only one I'm going through with is being advertised in my signature right now.

I also read a lot of Fanfiction. I don't tend to review however, because I'm not too good at it. Like, if you look at my reviews in BA's thread, they... suck. But when Vycksta asked for concrit on one of her fics, and I did pretty well at it. It's something I need to improve on.

My favorite authors... J.K. Rowling, Lemony Snicket, Cinda Williams Chima, Alexander Dumas, and tons more. I read a lot. Not as much as I used to, unfortunately, but i read more than the average person.

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

... I'm insanely bad at overcoming procrastination. I'm still working on a way to overcome it. In fact, in a non-fic related way, I'm procrastinating right now... Usually a deadline helps me work harder.

Dramatic Melody
2nd August 2009, 10:34 PM
So I'm joining because bnb forced me to. =P

I'm DM, and currently I have Stars (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=319986) and Perish (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=375889) as my projects. That's about all you need to know. x_x


If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

I sometimes set aside an hour of what's left of my free time to just write. Even though I don't get it done, it's still something. x_x

Blackjack Gabbiani
3rd August 2009, 9:30 AM
I'm in, although the only fic I've been able to write in MONTHS was kinda a failure and started a flame war.

Procrastination? Ahahahahahahahaha!

bobandbill
3rd August 2009, 1:17 PM
All newcomers have been added - welcome!


Yay! In that case I submit that I'll finish editing 'The mighty fallen' by August 31.

Though I do ask: can deadlines be submitted on their own, or do they have to be in a post as well?Updated to the first post. As for the question... not quite following - if you mean the deadlines themselves, they can be submitted either here or outside of this thread, I suppose, and if you mean confirmation of passing it - just a note/message one way or another as well would do, really. But clarification for slow people is nice. =P

I was reading My NaNoWriMo entry the other day.

All seven pages of it! Yeah, I kinda got derailed and stopped about four days in. It was fun though, very Russian, and very apocalyptic!

Don't think I'll be up to it this november, unless I unofficially make the journey fic that I'm writing as the subject and use all november to speed up the progress.
IDK if I will do a NaNoWriMo, although this time around I would have some sort of time for it - well, mostly. My final high school exam is the 4th of November so I could always go for a late start and celebrate free time. =D Maybe though I'd just use it as an excuse to make decent progress on my main fic.

Oh, and let's have a new topic, because we can.

What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

Yeah, I'm lazy atm, so I'll again answer this later. =P

FlamingRuby
3rd August 2009, 3:50 PM
I'll usually set my work in the present, but in the case of "Kochou, that is set in an alternative version of the Pokeverse as we know it.

Bay
3rd August 2009, 5:24 PM
What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?
NE takes place in Sinnoh, place wise. Time wise, the story's in the present, but happens not long after the incidents in the 10th and 11th Pokemon movies, considering the story uses both anime and game canon. I didn't say 12th Pokemon movie because NE is also a bit on the AU side and also didn't know the plates will be a huge factor in the movie. Long story short, consider the events of NE taking place after what happened in movies 10 and 11, but slightly before 12. :P

Mimori Kiryu
3rd August 2009, 6:20 PM
Hello! As a writer of fanfics (and never completing them...) I'd like to join here. I love writing a lot, along with reading and beta reading fanfics too. ^^;

Right now, the only fanfiction I'm actually working on is a large project. *wall of text approaching* Back in middle school (which was about...eight years ago) my friend and I decided to start writing a story together. I hadn't ever wrote a story before but we started it. It was a self insert fiction with several other anime mixed in. (It started with Fullmetal Alchemist, Fushigi Yuugi, Yu Yu Hakusho and even real people such as the crew of My Chemical Romance). We were in love with characters who left us and we had some kind of power that was wanted by someone from where we had been born, (later written as alter power from the anime s-CRY-ed) and basically we were horribly written Mary-Sues and even so, we still wrote on it. The series ended up having another fic before the one we wrote and a sequel to the original and then a book that ended it all. We promised ourselves to be finished with it by the time we finished high school. Well, I'm now a sophmore in college and it's still not completed. I have all the copies of the plans and everything and I'm still working on it. There is so much work put into it that I have to at least try to finish it. I've worked on making our characters the opposite of Mary-Sues and have changed their appearances and personalities to be completely different from ours but still realistic in their endeavors. Since the last time I checked we have nine anime (Fullmetal Alchemist, Fushigi Yuugi, s-CRY-ed, Yu-Gi-Oh, Final Fantasy VII, Inuyasha, Naruto, Yu Yu Hakusho, Trinity Blood and then western shows like W.I.T.C.H) in the story too. Most of them we are just using the characters, except for s-CRY-ed where alter power actually plays a part. I hope to finish this story someday and post it on Fanfiction.Net for some real reviews and fans because I get the feeling someone somewhere might like it.

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Read my old work while watching anime. I always come up with some kind of plot twist. ;D

What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

The fic mentioned above takes place in current time and takes place in The Lost Ground (from the series s-CRY-ed), and then into typical US area (city not decided) and England. But if you could also could count going into other dimensions, then it also takes place in the Naruto-verse for about a chapter. ^^;


^^ Thanks for letting me join guys.

Griff4815
3rd August 2009, 6:51 PM
Hello, bnb. I think I'll join this.

I'm writing Never in the Wrong Time or Wrong Place and I have written the one-shot Victory or Death.

Diddy
3rd August 2009, 10:27 PM
Most of my fics are AU, cos I can :P

But my up and coming fic is actually set somewhat in the past. Which is cool, cos I get to make up all new gym leaders and even gym themes, forest/beach themed teams etc, makes it a bit more challenging for the challenger.

One of the chapters is so entirely unserious but serious at the same time and was inspired heavily by a rather random conversation between me and another member here. I sometimes wonder how the readers will take it, I may have to put up a warning xD

Dramatic Melody
3rd August 2009, 10:57 PM
What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

Stars is set in Sinnoh. I'd like to think of it as being set in the future, when all of the Pokemon world has finally set up a government (and in Stars, namely the Republic of Sinnoh, the Kingdom of Hoenn and the Kanto-Johto Empire).

Perish has no definite time and place, since it is a set of different one-shots. ^_^

purple_drake
4th August 2009, 4:33 AM
As for the question... not quite following - if you mean the deadlines themselves, they can be submitted either here or outside of this thread, I suppose, and if you mean confirmation of passing it - just a note/message one way or another as well would do, really. But clarification for slow people is nice. =P

Mainly I meant ... well, if people aren't allowed to poke the deadliners without having something else in the post that's meaningful, does that mean that when someone puts forward a deadline it has to be accompanied by something else too, or can the post be entirely about the deadline?

Also I submit that we keep a list of the (current) topics in the first post, for prosperity's sake?


What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

Hunh, come to think of it, most of my fics are in Johto. HotM is in Hoenn, but CaC moves between Johto, Kanto and (later) Hoenn. Mirrorscape moves between Hoenn and Johto; 'Another ordinary day' and Taming are both in Johto. 'The good fight' and its sequel/spin offs will all be set in Johto, though the last of the series will probably be partly in Kanto too. All of these are set in the relative present or the recent past (HotM), or over a long period of time (Taming). I need more Kanto fics, I think.

The fic I'm currently writing is actually set in Kuwait, then at Fort Campbell and later in Norfolk. And if anyone can guess what kind of fic this is and who it's about just by those locations they get a cyber-cookie. X3 It's set in the past, too--1991, to be exact and I think I just gave it away.

Azurne
4th August 2009, 5:39 AM
Hello~ Can I join too?

I'm currently writing The Golden Dusk, and Silver Dawn *points to obscure link in sig* And... well, numerous other projects that aren't posted yet.



Thanks. :D


(I'll answer the topics in a min...)

katiekitten
4th August 2009, 6:06 AM
x3 Would like to rejoin! I keep on dropping off of the planet, I know. xD;

I'm interested in the Pokemon fandom (obviously) but recently I've been slipping into Axis Powers Hetalia. Which is made of soooo much win. x3 I'm a bit of a soppy romantic, and adore reading stories that end happily, or at least completely... even though I sadistically try to scorn them in my own writing. :x

Note the try?

What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

I write my fics mostly in the present, or near future, of either the more canon-relying Pokemon setting or in a more twisted parallel universe of my own. I like interpreting the pokemon world in different ways. x3 Within their settings, they are set in modern times. Only one is set in the past - Phoenix, which I STILL have to finish - and I haven't explored any future of a decent distance away yet, although I'm considering it. x3

On a non-fanfiction related note, I have been planning and researching for a short story set in early twentieth century Russia, which is certainly set in the past. xD

Blackjack Gabbiani
4th August 2009, 6:38 AM
The fic I'm currently writing is actually set in Kuwait, then at Fort Campbell and later in Norfolk. And if anyone can guess what kind of fic this is and who it's about just by those locations they get a cyber-cookie. X3 It's set in the past, too--1991, to be exact and I think I just gave it away.

Surge, no doubt.

I'm currently writing whatever the hell I can think of because lately my inspiration was sapped out. I can't write Obsession, I can't finish Void or Hold or Lost Like This or anything else I was working on, and I had to drop a claim in a prompts community because I couldn't think of anything.

bobandbill
4th August 2009, 4:23 PM
All newcomers accepted once again. =)


Mainly I meant ... well, if people aren't allowed to poke the deadliners without having something else in the post that's meaningful, does that mean that when someone puts forward a deadline it has to be accompanied by something else too, or can the post be entirely about the deadline?As long as it doesn't break the Club section's 'no-one-liner' rules, it's fine to just have a post with that (same for people poking others and reminding, really). Hence that rule being there.

Also I submit that we keep a list of the (current) topics in the first post, for prosperity's sake?Was intending to do that. *does that now*

What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

My main fic (TRoPC) is set in Pokemon Colosseum canon, basically (which is a given, looking at the nature of the fic...), so it's practically set during the 'present' events of the game itself. It's in the region of Orre, which is a region in bad shape - mostly desert (and with a strong lack of dessert...maybe), and little to no wild Pokemon remaining.

A one-shot I've done is more vague - no specific location, perhaps set in a more primitive Pokemon world however.

elyvorg
4th August 2009, 5:11 PM
Hi there. Join, please? Hopefully being active in here will help remedy the fact that I've been neglecting my fic since the most recent chapter, which was... over a month ago? D: I'm too lazy to link to my stuff, so go look at the Author's Profile in my sig.

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?
I don't. I figure that if I'm not in the mood to write, then nothing decent will come out of me forcing myself to do so. All I can really do is wait for that mood to return and maybe do various things such as reading old chapters/reviews or discussing the fic with readers to bring back my enthusiasm for it.

What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?
My fic's setting is Hoenn, because it revolves around a (sort of) Hoenn Pokémon, although I seem to like having the characters travel through places that aren't the official game routes, which I guess makes it more interesting than I'd probably find it if I just wrote with existing routes. Time-wise, it's basically the present, as much as one can have a "present" in a universe that's pretty different from our own. Writing something in the future of the Pokémon world has always seemed fun to me, though, probably just because I love sci-fi.

Breezy
5th August 2009, 8:07 AM
I'm joining because I'm afraid of what bobandbill will do if I don't ... uh ... yeah, because I'm afraid of what bnb will do if I don't. XP

I'm the writer of that one crapfiesta fic that I will not name, but I'm sure we all know what we're referring to anyway. I also write The Lost Chronicles of Johto and Who Shot Brendan Birch? but I haven't updated those in months. Lol. Other than that, I've written a few one-shots scattered here and there. I'm mostly a comedy writer, but I also like writing adventure/journey fics, too. I'm a big fan of the game protagonists, with Hoenn being my absolutely favorite. Andddd ... that's about it.

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Nothing. X3 Well, I do try to read other stories, or re-read my older work. If I do get hit by procrastination, it's usually because I need a break from writing, though. So I usually stop until I'm hit in the head with inspiration.


What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?"Present" I suppose. It's definitely not past, and I never intended it to be a future fic. Whatever time frame the games are in, I suppose.

Most of my fics take place in Hoenn, but I've used Johto a few times.

Diddy
5th August 2009, 3:54 PM
I'm joining because I'm afraid of what bobandbill will do if I don't ... uh ... yeah, because I'm afraid of what bnb will do if I don't. XP

Whatever it is it'll probably involve dancing... and pastries. and no bay, not your pastries :P


I'd like a to submit a new question, if that's allowed *cowers in fear of bob's dance ray*

anyway er... How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

I ask because I've recently been doing at least half a page on openoffice every time i sit down to write and it's moving along quite well and I'm pleased with myself.

Much better than the periods where I don't write anything and then I forget what's happening xD

Bay
5th August 2009, 4:58 PM
Oh, come on Diddy! My pastries brings all the boys (and girls) to the yard! :P

*gets shot*

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?
When I was writing the first drafts of NE, I actually tried to get at least either four pages or get half of the chapter done, depending on the mood. :P However, as I was writing the The Last Rocket for a writing challenge at another forum, I try to get through 1,000 words a day. Ack, I will post that story here one day. x_x

And oh, I'm thinking of maybe having a deadline for me to have all of the Heart and Soul reviews be reviewed and finished, but still not sure yet. XD Yay, or nay? And while I'm at it, elyvorg and Breezy should have deadlines for that too. :P

FlamingRuby
5th August 2009, 5:38 PM
I just write as much or as little as the story and my mood demand--it changes from day to day

Mimori Kiryu
5th August 2009, 7:52 PM
How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

I'm pretty much like FlamingRuby. I try to write as much or as little as I feel like that day. Though there are times when I tell myself if I don't write a certain amount, I might quit the the story period and I definitely don't want that. D:

Dilasc
5th August 2009, 8:03 PM
Hi folks, I'm a child moles... wait, wrong script.

Sup, I'm like, a writer, I write things. Yay!

My stories are the semi-hiatused Dust to Deceit (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=90403) and the semi-going strong The Generic Story that You Probably Know... And Hate (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=366938)

Totally worth reads when there's nothing worth living for.


I want in and stuff.

I'll answer questions later, I'm as honest as any salesman when I say this.

Breezy
5th August 2009, 9:38 PM
Whatever it is it'll probably involve dancing... and pastries. and no bay, not your pastries :P... what kind of dancing? D:


And oh, I'm thinking of maybe having a deadline for me to have all of the Heart and Soul reviews be reviewed and finished, but still not sure yet. XD Yay, or nay? And while I'm at it, elyvorg and Breezy should have deadlines for that too. :PI only have two more. =( Granted, they're the uber long ones, but still -- two!

Actually, give me til August 9th to finish reviewing. ;P

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

Eh, I don't, but I hear it's good practice. I write when I feel like writing, and when I don't feel like writing anymore, I stop. This can range from one sentence to the entire chapter. Yes, it's usually extremes like that, lol. It's never a happy medium; it's either a lot or a little. =X

My goal is to open the document my story is in and stare at it at least once a day.

Umbreon Ruler
6th August 2009, 2:10 AM
I'd like to join, please. :)

I'm mostly a writer (although I do read too, just not as much), but since almost every piece of writing I've done is locked in a cage, waiting on my decision of whether or not to release them or put them down for good, I won't bother listing or linking them, since I'd look back on this months later and cringe. Whew. Long sentence. ;D

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

I usually end up writing roughly one page a day, but it's not a rule or anything. Most of it is random outlines and character bios that may or may not be implemented into anything but occasionally I manage to churn out something productive. Even the useless stuff is good for flexing my imagination though (which would make it useful, I guess...).

Ysavvryl
6th August 2009, 4:13 AM
I try to write at least a page a day. Usually wind up with more, though.

Staring at the text, or just a blank page, helps on occasion, I admit. Or fries your eyeballs...

Araleon
6th August 2009, 4:32 AM
What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?
Well, for the one one-shot I've posted, it's in the anime future. In the one-shot for the Heart and Soul Contest, it's in the distant past. Finally, for the fic I'm planning/about to start writing, it's in the HeartGold SoulSilver timeline, but also AU. Since I'm planning on publishing it before HGSS's release, it will not include many of the plots and people (new) that they create. I'm creating my own plot.

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?
Yeah... Like, Breezy, I pretty much don't. I usually wind up writing a lot a one time. (As an example, for my one-shot for the Contest, I wrote the bulk of it in an almost nonstop three day period.)

I should probably get into the habit of writing everyday...

On the subject of NaNoWriMo, I might do it. For practice. Maybe use it to write a bunch of my fic? Or is that against the rules...

Good luck with your deadlines, Breezy and purple_drake.

I think a deadline for reviews would probably be handy. There are a lot of entries. Maybe a few every couple days for a couple weeks? So, like a deadline of around September 1st? In the thread you said you had ten left, you could probably get them done in a month.

purple_drake
6th August 2009, 6:19 AM
Surge, no doubt.

In retrospect it was probably entirely too easy. Then again, Rockets notwithstanding Surge is probably the other canon character I'd associate with you the most, and I seem to recall telling you about this story anyway. D< Cheaterer.


How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

I used to be in the same boat as Breezy and Araleon, but for about a month now I've made it a habit to write for a minimum of an hour every day--handwritten, alas. Usually I get at least 5 pages done (about 1100 words), though lately I've been getting 7/8 pages done, woot.



Good luck with your deadlines, Breezy and purple_drake.

Ta. ^^;

Bay
6th August 2009, 6:41 AM
I think a deadline for reviews would probably be handy. There are a lot of entries. Maybe a few every couple days for a couple weeks? So, like a deadline of around September 1st? In the thread you said you had ten left, you could probably get them done in a month.
Hm, September 1st doesn't sound too bad for a deadline, but still unsure if I'll be able to make it to that deadline. Ack, got behind on the reviews because my sister suddenly got sick and not sure when she'll feel better (my mom did took her to the doctors a couple days ago). Also, going to be busy with other real life stuff. I'm trying my best, though.

Ten entries is still a lot to review, considering I'm trying to have my reviews as detailed and helpful as possible. Also, remember that it took the judges around four months to get through those ten entries (though yeah, part of the problem is that Draco abandoned the contest due to real life stuff).

I'lll still think about it, though.

Divinity_123
6th August 2009, 1:28 PM
*joins Fanfiction Club once again and takes pledge to be active*

The name's Divinity_123 (you can call me Div, Divy, whatever floats your boat :P) and I'm a gangsta fanfiction writer.

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Nothing really, I just wait it out until something mind-blowing drives me to write again. Listening to music, going out for walks, and playing Call of Duty such could work too, I suppose.

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

I usually don't write everyday (there's was a period of time when I didn't write squat for nearly seven months), but when I do, I usually get five to ten pages done. I think the most pages I've written in a day though was like 24 or something like that. Yeah, I'm too sick.

SapphireRose
6th August 2009, 10:07 PM
I saw this a couple days ago and shrugged it off. Shame on me.

I'm Blue_Mew22 (or just blue) and I'd like to join, please!

I haven't posted anything here since The Ultimate Sacrifice days and that was a long time ago. I have been writing slowly a bit these past few days. Gotta sqeeze it all in before summer ends. My current project is called ThunderStruck. I might also get The Key started again as well sometime. But don't hold me to that.

If you've never heard of any of these stories before in your life, I don't blame you. :P

So yeah.

~blue

PokemonHero
6th August 2009, 10:23 PM
*Appears randomly*

Well, a new Fan Fiction Club. Can't say that I'm surprised.

Anyway, being here means that I wish to join. I have a few fan fics going on here, including The Light in the Darkness (link in sig) and The Twilight Chronicles (currently in rewriting stage). I also have a more shippy One-Shot called Partners for Life (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=391481). I considered making it a series of One-Shots, but have decided not to.

Now for some questions:

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

I'll force myself to think about it until I actually work on it. It seems to work because if I don't start to work on the story, I start to go insane. :D

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

I don't know. I try to write a fair bit, but a lot of times, I find myself going back to what I wrote the day before and replacing it. If I do end up writing something substantial, it's probably no more than a page or two.

Blackjack Gabbiani
7th August 2009, 8:46 AM
In retrospect it was probably entirely too easy. Then again, Rockets notwithstanding Surge is probably the other canon character I'd associate with you the most, and I seem to recall telling you about this story anyway. D< Cheaterer.

You associate Surge with me? Why? I wrote one fic about him and it was years ago. You haven't even heard my Surge voice yet!

Moreover, you associate him with me more than you associate JIRARUDAN with me?

purple_drake
7th August 2009, 9:41 AM
You associate Surge with me? Why? I wrote one fic about him and it was years ago. You haven't even heard my Surge voice yet!

Moreover, you associate him with me more than you associate JIRARUDAN with me?

Strangely, yes. O.o I think the fic has something to do with it, maybe because that's practically the only fic I've seen anyone else write about him--that's worth remembering, anyway. And I dunno, I just seem to recall you liking him more than most other E/GLs?

Eh, okay, that was a complete misquote. XD Imagine I said 'villains' instead of 'Rockets'. I need to spend more time out of my fanon, I think. ._.;;

Blackjack Gabbiani
7th August 2009, 10:05 AM
I'm not sure. And besides, Surge is a Rocket in one canon (granted that's not the canon I wrote about, but hey).

And um. If I'm reading your last statement correctly, your fanon has Jirarudan as a Rocket. If that is the case and it's not just that it's 2 am here and I should have been in bed already, your ideas interest me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

purple_drake
7th August 2009, 2:29 PM
He is, which might be another reason for the association, considering that Rockets == Blackjack (although it's not the canon I prefer write him in either).

Yes, well, apparently I have a tendency to leave incomplete thoughts lying around even in the middle of the day. XD My usual fanon is game-based so Jirarudan doesn't actually exist there, is what I meant, alas (though for an old draft of a story in one of my other fanons I had him team up with the Aquas to catch a lugia). But this him-as-a-Rocket idea is an interesting one, so now I'm debating the merits of a slight anime crossover to have him as one of the Rockets' lead scientists/engineers. It does make sense that they'd want him on their side, considering his genius; the biggest problem would probably be stopping him from wanting to keep the Legendaries he helps catch as his trophies or turning into a loose cannon if he decides they can't do enough for him anymore. Besides, the League has Bill, so the Rockets need their own genius engineer.

I must think on this.

Also we're discussing story ideas, so this is not off-topic, yesyes?

Diddy
7th August 2009, 3:54 PM
Also we're discussing story ideas, so this is not off-topic, yesyes?

I suppose, this is the place for healthy (or unhealthy if you wish as long as it doesn't cross a line) fan fiction discussion. If we weren't allowed to vent here, we'd probably explode in a shower of visceral alphabetty spaghetti.

*pauses to let mental image sink in*




So yeah, How's that deadline coming along? Doing as well as you think you can be at this point in time.

LightingKimba
8th August 2009, 2:42 PM
What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

Like a Line Drive! takes place in Johto from the beginning, and also has elements in the Sinnoh range. In terms of time, its whatever the Special mangaverse's G/S arc is.

Yes, boring answer, but I really don't know what else is there to say, de arimasu.

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?
Varies a lot. I can, on certain days, write a full chapter in a manner of hours, and on other days, be too lazy to even write one whole paragraph. Really, I only write when I'm bored and having nothing else to do. Hooray, for peace and serenity.

Sorry I haven't been on for so long, real life issues, don't cha know?

bobandbill
9th August 2009, 2:43 AM
New people also added to the club.

Anyways - yes, of course anyone can come up with topics of their own. Speaking of which:

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

I don't really do that atm, because I'm really lazy-pants man. I also do have a lot of school work at the moment, and all sorts of other things, but I might consider trying it out after an upcoming exam two-week period comes and goes.


Also we're discussing story ideas, so this is not off-topic, yesyes?Well the club is for anything to do with fanfiction, and it's healthy discussion, so knock yourself out discussing such things. =D Some venting is allowed as long as it has to do with writing and all that jazz.

And congrats to Breezy for beating her deadline in completing her reviews for the HG/SS One-shot Contest, btw. =D

FlamingRuby
9th August 2009, 3:17 AM
I'm looking foward to seeing how I did.

PokemonHero
9th August 2009, 3:49 PM
What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

Depends on the story. The setting for The Light in the Darkness is pretty ambiguous. I never mention a particular name for the city, nor do I mention a region.

SapphireRose
9th August 2009, 6:09 PM
Thank you, bobandbill.

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Just wait it out, I guess. I don't set deadlines for myself, nor am I posting at the moment, so I guess 'procrastination' doesn't have a meaning for me right now.

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

I don't set daily writing goals, so I wouldn't know. When I do write, however, it all depends on my mood how much I write. Normally, I don't write anything at all for maybe, weeks. xD

What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?

ThunderStruck is based mostly in Kanto, but Hoenn is the ending point. It's narrated in first person, past tense. I suppose the tense would make it the past, time-wise. The 'author' is telling a story that happened a long time ago.

The Key occurs in the Sevii Islands and Kanto. The narration is third person in past tense. Time-wise, it happens in the 'present.'

~blue

Mimori Kiryu
9th August 2009, 6:40 PM
I've got a question for all of you. How do you get people to read your stories, especially about plots that the reader may or may not know about? My crossover (as I wrote about in my first post) has been posted at Fanfiction.Net (along with a link in my signature), but in the four days its been there, no one's reviewed it and only 9 people have looked at it.

I just want an idea. I mean it's an OC story, so that's probably why no one's reading it, but I was curious if people have ideas to get others to read your story. ^^;

FlamingRuby
9th August 2009, 7:26 PM
I link to it and post it in as many places as possible

Umbreon Ruler
9th August 2009, 11:42 PM
I've got a question for all of you. How do you get people to read your stories, especially about plots that the reader may or may not know about? My crossover (as I wrote about in my first post) has been posted at Fanfiction.Net (along with a link in my signature), but in the four days its been there, no one's reviewed it and only 9 people have looked at it.

I just want an idea. I mean it's an OC story, so that's probably why no one's reading it, but I was curious if people have ideas to get others to read your story. ^^;

Post it and link it in my sig.

Then I just hope. :{

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

Write lots and lots and lots (and lots) of unrelated snippets that are usually completely different (other than the fact that they're usually in the Pokemon world) in plot.

Breezy
10th August 2009, 5:13 AM
And congrats to Breezy for beating her deadline in completing her reviews for the HG/SS One-shot Contest, btw. =DThankies, thankies. The deadline was the push I needed, though I do wonder what you guys would have done if I hadn't finished before deadline. XP


I've got a question for all of you. How do you get people to read your stories, especially about plots that the reader may or may not know about? My crossover (as I wrote about in my first post) has been posted at Fanfiction.Net (along with a link in my signature), but in the four days its been there, no one's reviewed it and only 9 people have looked at it.

I just want an idea. I mean it's an OC story, so that's probably why no one's reading it, but I was curious if people have ideas to get others to read your story. ^^;Well, you kind of answered that yourself, but I'll respond anyway. Getting people to review your story (let alone your first story ever) is a little tricky and varies per site. At ff.net, most of the readers there come with a mindset of what they want to read in either plot or characters (usually the latter). Summary and title there is also important since most people do judge whether or not to read a story by the summary, so make sure you have something intriguing in your summary.

Agreeably, while I only currently write in the pokemon fandom, I do know that OCs tend to turn people off for the sake that the author has the OC (usually self inserts) do things with the canon characters that aren't ... canonical. I've glimpsed at the story you have linked and well ...


YES, BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, PLEASE NOTE THAT CANON CHARACTERS ARE RELATED AND FALL IN LOVE WITH THE OCS DESCRIBED IN THIS STORY. IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THAT (OR CANNOT GET OVER IT) PLEASE DO NOT READ. Thank you.Again, I only write in the pokemon fandom, but having a note yelling at readers to "like it or gtfo" isn't good, especially if you're yelling over something that might not be realistic for the canon characters. Two cents, though.

Either way, it's also about getting your name out into the community. Try reviewing a few fics at the site you want reviews at (in the case of ff.net, try reviewing stories with similar canon characters or crossover fics that use the same sort of anime). I'm not the grrreeatest about attracting readers for OC-centered stories (I write fics centered around the game characters of the pokemon games, so that alone attracts readers at ff.net), so maybe someone else who writes OCs stories at ff.net can help you with that.

Mimori Kiryu
10th August 2009, 8:48 AM
Well, you kind of answered that yourself, but I'll respond anyway. Getting people to review your story (let alone your first story ever) is a little tricky and varies per site. At ff.net, most of the readers there come with a mindset of what they want to read in either plot or characters (usually the latter). Summary and title there is also important since most people do judge whether or not to read a story by the summary, so make sure you have something intriguing in your summary.That is true. I try my hardest to get an interesting title and summary but only having 250 characters, it gets hard to make it interesting without making it very simple and boring.


Agreeably, while I only currently write in the pokemon fandom, I do know that OCs tend to turn people off for the sake that the author has the OC (usually self inserts) do things with the canon characters that aren't ... canonical. I've glimpsed at the story you have linked and well ...

Again, I only write in the pokemon fandom, but having a note yelling at readers to "like it or gtfo" isn't good, especially if you're yelling over something that might not be realistic for the canon characters. Two cents, though.I know that might seem harsh but I've had just as harsh reviews. They don't even read my story sometimes and then they complain because I have OCs. They don't even read it to see if my characters are even good. Honestly, my two OCs in this story aren't even anything like me. The decisions they make aren't ones I make myself and they don't look anything like me. :/ I get annoyed when people associate OCs with self-inserts. To me, they're two totally different things.

And my OCs are built around the canon character's lives, not the other way around. My characters conformed to what was canon and barely changed anything. The canon characters lives will go on as normal as my characters have their own story/life somewhere else. They all just happen to be in the same realm. It's hard to explain this story...


Either way, it's also about getting your name out into the community. Try reviewing a few fics at the site you want reviews at (in the case of ff.net, try reviewing stories with similar canon characters or crossover fics that use the same sort of anime). I'm not the grrreeatest about attracting readers for OC-centered stories (I write fics centered around the game characters of the pokemon games, so that alone attracts readers at ff.net), so maybe someone else who writes OCs stories at ff.net can help you with that.I appreciate the help. I will try to start reviewing more to get my name out there. ^^;

Griff4815
10th August 2009, 5:17 PM
What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?


Never in the wrong time or wrong place is in Hoenn. I'm not sure when it is...

Victory or Death is a ways away from under the Bicycle Path in Hoenn.

Breezy
10th August 2009, 8:14 PM
I know that might seem harsh but I've had just as harsh reviews. They don't even read my story sometimes and then they complain because I have OCs. They don't even read it to see if my characters are even good. Honestly, my two OCs in this story aren't even anything like me. The decisions they make aren't ones I make myself and they don't look anything like me. :/ I get annoyed when people associate OCs with self-inserts. To me, they're two totally different things.They are, but this is ff.net we're talking about lol. They interchange the term "AU" with "writing whatever the hell I want" and a lot of the fangirls/boys will get offended if you have your OC falling in love with a canon character or you're ready to proclaim it in the author note. I do think you should get rid of the note and have your characters speak for themselves. If your OCs blend well into the story and work with the canon characters, then you possibly might not even need the note.

Besides the summary, a reader may judge the story by the author's notes and the first few paragraphs. So ... yeah. Lol.

Edit:
That is true. I try my hardest to get an interesting title and summary but only having 250 characters, it gets hard to make it interesting without making it very simple and boring.Try not to summarize the entire story in the basic "Join blah and blah asthey go on adventure blah!" because as you said, it's very simple and won't catch the reader's eye. There are a lot of different takes on how to write a summary. I usually try to go the more ... humorous route:

"The characters of the Gold/Silver/Crystal game line have decided that since no one seems to like to write about them, then to hell with it! They will! AND YOU'RE GOING TO EFFIN' LIKE IT!"

"Anyway, getting us captured by a bunch of men in space suits seems to have gotten her mad. Whatever."

It'd probably help if you saw other summary examples. Cough. Poke. Other authors. Lazy to use. Action tags. Yay. Periods.

Summary probably isn't the right term as you don't want to summarize the whole story (and you really can't in the 5 characters ff.net gives you). Most writers write their summary in a way that they give you the basic details but then allude to something bigger, usually in the form of question like "Character returns home but then something abnormal happens. Now what will character do?"

... without it being lame like that.

Is the fandom your story in a huge fandom on ff.net? That also might be why you're not getting a lot of reviews.

Mimori Kiryu
11th August 2009, 3:32 AM
They are, but this is ff.net we're talking about lol. They interchange the term "AU" with "writing whatever the hell I want" and a lot of the fangirls/boys will get offended if you have your OC falling in love with a canon character or you're ready to proclaim it in the author note. I do think you should get rid of the note and have your characters speak for themselves. If your OCs blend well into the story and work with the canon characters, then you possibly might not even need the note.

Besides the summary, a reader may judge the story by the author's notes and the first few paragraphs. So ... yeah. Lol.I guess so. I'll remove it and see what happens. Maybe I am just being too uptight or something.


Is the fandom your story in a huge fandom on ff.net? That also might be why you're not getting a lot of reviews.Well, it is based in the anime world of s-CRY-ed which is not very popular. That is possible. Though, I do have other more popular anime in it. I'll try to advertise more. xD



Thanks for all your advice, Breezy. I really appreciate it.

Blackjack Gabbiani
11th August 2009, 9:14 AM
So I have a sort of personal question here, and by "personal" I mean "involving me". Con season is upon us once again, and I want to submit something to the fanfic contest. I can't submit Business Lunch or Obsession because they already won stuff.

Here's a problem--the judges at these cons are very very weird. One of them berated me because they said all my fics are the same (yet honestly they write nearly identical Gundam Wing fics so they have no room to talk). And when I submitted something different--Devious--they told me that none of them could make any sense of what was going on, a problem NO ONE ELSE who read it ever noted.

So anyway. What have I written of late that could be "different" but won't get me flamed out of there? Bear in mind that they USED to like my stuff. They loved Obsession. But Business Lunch wasn't even in a competition--it won because it was the only fic submitted at this one con.

LightingKimba
11th August 2009, 5:47 PM
I've got a question for all of you. How do you get people to read your stories, especially about plots that the reader may or may not know about?

Well, my OC fanfic *points to sig* has that "overshadowed" problem big time.

Really, its problem is the of several variabless: A) It's a Pokemon fanfic which, as others would know, it's a rather large fandom, with a even larger + growing base of fanfics, of varying genres from the AU flavor to the OC flavor. Add that with B) Because of its OC status, it's bound to be overlooked by other OC fics.

So... What do I do to try and make it "stand out" to the crowd, and get a few people to read it? It helps that my friends try and advertise it on their IRC chans, as well I do make the attempt of asking people to read if they're bored or something.

And Blackjack, you could consider Creation, which I found a nice read, though it'd suck if it suffered a similar fate to Business Lunch..

SapphireRose
11th August 2009, 9:41 PM
Uh, I'm not sure if I have to post this, but I just wanted to let you all know that I won't be active here for the next week. From tomorrow until Thursday the 20th, I will be on vacation and not have any computer access. Again, I don't know if I'm supposed to let you know this, but I want to stay on the member's list so I'll tell you anyway. :D

~blue

purple_drake
12th August 2009, 4:55 AM
I suppose, this is the place for healthy (or unhealthy if you wish as long as it doesn't cross a line) fan fiction discussion. If we weren't allowed to vent here, we'd probably explode in a shower of visceral alphabetty spaghetti.

*pauses to let mental image sink in*


So yeah, How's that deadline coming along? Doing as well as you think you can be at this point in time.

That is such a lovely image. Remind me not to eat alphabetti spaghetti anytime soon.

And TBH I've been lazy with this deadline, due to RL work, this Surge story and the Lance-as-a-Rocket story and I blame you and IC Ghost for the latter, by the way! D<

Thanks for the poke, though. ._. *envies Breezy*



I've got a question for all of you. How do you get people to read your stories, especially about plots that the reader may or may not know about? My crossover (as I wrote about in my first post) has been posted at Fanfiction.Net (along with a link in my signature), but in the four days its been there, no one's reviewed it and only 9 people have looked at it.

I just want an idea. I mean it's an OC story, so that's probably why no one's reading it, but I was curious if people have ideas to get others to read your story. ^^;

/late, but oh well. I agree with what Breezy's said and although I do understand the need to disclaim your OCs, I'd recommend not doing it in caps, because caps is like yelling and it sounds incredibly hostile and defensive. If you want to emphasise the message as particularly important, just use italics or bold it.

I know how you feel about not getting readers just 'cos of your characters, though, since most of the characters I write about in most fandoms are side characters, so not many people tend to read about them anyway. The only fandom I'm really active in is the Pokemon fandom, and people seem to remember who I am just because I've been around for a while and/or are part of a select group who write/read about the same characters, but in my other fandoms I just let bygones be bygones and take what readers and reviewers I can get. That's generally my philosophy: that the readers and reviewers are a nice perk, but I write because I want to, because I have to, and because the process is itself an exercise in progress. It just means I don't expect too much, and then get disappointed ... or that's the theory, anyway.



So I have a sort of personal question here, and by "personal" I mean "involving me". Con season is upon us once again, and I want to submit something to the fanfic contest. I can't submit Business Lunch or Obsession because they already won stuff.

Here's a problem--the judges at these cons are very very weird. One of them berated me because they said all my fics are the same (yet honestly they write nearly identical Gundam Wing fics so they have no room to talk). And when I submitted something different--Devious--they told me that none of them could make any sense of what was going on, a problem NO ONE ELSE who read it ever noted.

So anyway. What have I written of late that could be "different" but won't get me flamed out of there? Bear in mind that they USED to like my stuff. They loved Obsession. But Business Lunch wasn't even in a competition--it won because it was the only fic submitted at this one con.

Ugh, I had something similar at recent con, where I had to wonder if I was the only one who submitted anything. >.<

What have you written of late? The only one I know off the top of my head is 'Creation' ... though I really like that one, so I'll give it my vote anyway. I don't know how much you can do about the judges, though; 'Obsession' is a chaptered fic so there's more time for them to get to know and understand Jiraruden, maybe that's why they liked it. A lot of your one-shots do have a specific style I can imagine a more close-minded person would reject just because it's too subtle for them and they don't like the work of trying to figure it out. I guess you can either try and write a fic to cater to their tastes, or just stick to your guns and submit what you like writing; personally I'd go with the latter, 'cos if you're not writing for the story, what's the point?

Blackjack Gabbiani
12th August 2009, 7:09 AM
And Blackjack, you could consider Creation, which I found a nice read, though it'd suck if it suffered a similar fate to Business Lunch..

Well, this is a much bigger con, so I don't have to worry about it being the only entrant.

But the problem with Creation is that most people who read it didn't understand what was going on. I'd need to make it clearer what happens in it so that it's not taken at face value like a lot of people did.

Breezy
12th August 2009, 10:34 AM
But the problem with Creation is that most people who read it didn't understand what was going on. I'd need to make it clearer what happens in it so that it's not taken at face value like a lot of people did.I read Creation (I apologize for not reviewing, but I would have repeated a few statements anyway plus I was swamped with my own judging), and I wouldn't say that the overall theme was "hard to miss" (Cyrus underestimating human nature, his strive for perfection, etc.), but the more subtle detail were harder to pick up, especially if you read the story casually -- at least in my opinion. I did pick up that the commanders weren't human (flesh cutting, dash to pieces, etc.), but it took me a bit to realize that Cyrus was in sort of mental institution (I think you only alluded to this by uneven flooring and soft walls, and I only got this because I read your posts afterward). I think it was creative to interchange the term "plastic smile" in both a literal and metaphorical sense, but I can see how the literal can fly over a reader's head as well. I think the subtlety was what made the fic strong, though, along with an interesting character analysis of Cyrus' character. I think you also handled the use of language and writing style to have already subtle hints blend in smoothly with your piece.

Me being nitpicky however, I do agree that a judge may question how Cyrus was able to get tools and build robots in such a protective environment. Reading over your posts after the story, I never got the sense that Cyrus didn't know he was in a padded cell either or that he didn't know that his commanders were, er, robots. I'm not sure how you could fix this, so make of it what you will, other than strengthening the description that he is in a padded cell. Yeah, walls aren't soft usually, but it's not very telling of where he is. I do understand the difficulty in it as Cyrus doesn't know that he's in a padded cell, but maybe there's a more ... obvious way of depicting a padded cell with out your ... character ... knowing.

Anyway, time for bed as I sense not make anymore.

It depends on how obvious you want it to be. It might take a read or two to understand fully what's going on, but I don't think it's that subtle to the point that I'd go "wtf this author is on something." ;P


Thanks for the poke, though. ._. *envies Breezy*Tee hee.


Uh, I'm not sure if I have to post this, but I just wanted to let you all know that I won't be active here for the next week. From tomorrow until Thursday the 20th, I will be on vacation and not have any computer access. Again, I don't know if I'm supposed to let you know this, but I want to stay on the member's list so I'll tell you anyway.Have fun! ^^

Edit: Post 69. ;o Haha.

Blackjack Gabbiani
13th August 2009, 7:02 AM
I know it's irregular to give someone in that condition tools, and it'd most likely never happen in real life, but human medical care in the Pokemon world seems to suck (a whole hospital with only one person on staff? WHAT?), so that's not the part I'm really concerned with. But yeah, I'd need to focus on making his location more obvious, because once the reader realizes WHERE he is, then everything else makes sense. Or does it? I hope so, anyway...

Praxiteles
14th August 2009, 9:52 AM
Ripple in the more enthusiastic kind of rapids: Hi, guys! Can I join in?

My name is Luphinid Silnaek, and the only fics I'll share with you for the moment are linked in my sig, and unless someone disqualifies me for not having posted a word of fanfiction on these boards for approaching a year now, I think I will be your friend in this new club. Good, then?

Oh, and my writing influences are all too shallow and varied to put here, but one good author I seem to have some spiritual connection to is F. Dostoevsky. His short stories seem to be the only really serious writing work I've properly understood (the most serious impediment to understanding literature, of course, being the capacity to enjoy it, and I seem to have that in spades), his sense of spiritual and artistic flow coinciding with mine, and even his writing (though very different technically from my work) sharing some interesting similarities. I don't know about his influence over me, however, because I'm still working out his larger epics--people still conduct seminars on his stories, so you can excuse a precocious little fanfiction writer for taking his time.

I have something useful to contribute, too:

What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

What would please me the most in a review is analysis: a deliberate and concentrated effort to fully understand the structures of my stories. (One wonders these days if the clever and subtle little creations one's done for a piece of writing are so obvious and unclever that no one bothers to even mention them, or so veiled that no one cares to decipher them, or really what.) Besides indicating that my writing was found good enough by at least one person to put so much thought into their reviewing, it would significantly add to the intellectual stimulation going around: one person would work out the story as they understood it uniquely, and then I or someone else could respond to that, or add to it or hint important things, the sum total of which would be a good time for all involved. --I do this in many of my reviews, and most of the writers seem to like it, so it must not be so bad a reviewing style.--

There are particular things that I've seen other authors be pleased by, so it would be interesting to see them straightforward laid down.

Breezy
14th August 2009, 10:56 AM
... But yeah, I'd need to focus on making his location more obvious, because once the reader realizes WHERE he is, then everything else makes sense. Or does it? I hope so, anyway...I think it'd help, yeah. It at least give the sense of Cyrus being somewhere ... unusual, anyway


What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?Depends on the situation. Er, rather my form as an author or a reader of reviews (weird I know).

As an author, I'd like to get the sense that my reviewers are enjoying the story and/or found some sort of emotion in it (in not the "mindless praise" sort of way, though). I do like advice and reviews, but as long as someone's reading, I don't really care what kind of reviews I get. However, I do like when people quote parts that they like. Not sure why ... Lol. Maybe because the seem more detail, or maybe it's nice to see if some of my smaller Easter egg jokes were caught by someone (it's nice when someone points it out).

When I do read other people's reviews, I do get a kick out of reading other people's analysis of stories and I like to compare them to my own ideas of the story. I also like when the reviewer puts a little bit of humor or personality into their review other than just offering advice. I kind of try to do that in my own reviews (which I start doing again one of these days). Don't know. So long as it isn't too "snarky" (to the point where it sounds rude anyway). I feel it kind of gives the review its own personality. Reviewing is a form of writing in itself, so it's nice to see some creativity in it just to spice things up.

One of my favorite reviewers here reviewed in homonyms just for the hell of it. Loved it. <3 Lol.

FlamingRuby
14th August 2009, 1:32 PM
Besides praise and a sense of humor, I also want a review to give me constructive criticism, so I know how to make my work even better. (eg. "I didn't like the way you did X for this and this reason. Maybe doing Y would be better?")

Pikablu Lv.X
14th August 2009, 5:11 PM
Can I join? I've been reading fanfics for some time and I'm planning to write my own.

LightingKimba
14th August 2009, 9:05 PM
What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?


I'd rather hear from a reviewer the problems I have with my writing. I don't know whether it's just my nature, but praise always rubs me the wrong way, whether about the fic or not.

Diddy
15th August 2009, 12:25 AM
Working my way through Crime & Punishment at the mo, if anyone is interested :D

Anywhom.

What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

As Breezy said, I like it when people quote sections from the fic and say either why they liked that section, if it was funny or emotional etc. or even to say this part wasn't as well constructed, maybe move the sentences around and stuff like that because it gives me a better insight in to how maybe I should structure my sentences in the future.

I also like a bit of healthy discussion on certain aspects of my fic, parts perhaps where people felt were inspired by something or what they thought about it and how it compares to my image of what's happening.

And of course praise is welcome as well :)

But I feel a certain respect for people here and I think it's great when those people take the time to read and review something I wrote. It gives me great pleasure to know, even if they might not like it, that they took time out of their day to say something.

bobandbill
15th August 2009, 6:21 AM
Luphinid Silnaek and Pikablu Lv.X , you're added. =)

Ohh, new topic. What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

Besides the praise? But what? =P Nah, I like it when they tell me what parts in particular got a laugh out of them in my main fic, or just generally what they liked. Quoted stuff is nice to see for that, and also is interesting to see if any references or the such I make are picked up or not.

I also like to know what parts I could improve on, or what parts fell flat, and so forth - the critic, so you will. Praise is always nice and all, but I seem to get a fair bit of the 'mindless' variety half the time, so I'm thankful for the reviewers I have who do some/all of the above. =)

Praxiteles
15th August 2009, 4:07 PM
Diddy: Oh, wonderful, you're doing Crime and Punishment. The last time I read that, it pulled me into this beautiful existential depression about some basic chord within my soul or something.

Yes, I agree with Breezy on one point: personality is a very interesting thing to have in a review. I can name a few reviewers off the top of my head whose works are an entertainment to read, even if they're for an entirely different fic and dealing with ideas I'm not immediately familiar with. ("Owie! Three adverbs in one sentence?"--to paraphrase) It also indicates that the reviewer is having fun with this, too, taking it as the proper art form that it truly is.

Damn, I haven't properly reviewed for a long time. I feel like doing something fun again.

Araleon
15th August 2009, 5:05 PM
What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

Well, I like to see constructive criticism. I'd like a review where someone tells me what's wrong with the chapter and how I could go about fixing it. Or something like that. Not pure praise, not pure go read the AFAA.

Bay
16th August 2009, 1:34 AM
When I do read other people's reviews, I do get a kick out of reading other people's analysis of stories and I like to compare them to my own ideas of the story. I also like when the reviewer puts a little bit of humor or personality into their review other than just offering advice. I kind of try to do that in my own reviews (which I start doing again one of these days). Don't know. So long as it isn't too "snarky" (to the point where it sounds rude anyway). I feel it kind of gives the review its own personality. Reviewing is a form of writing in itself, so it's nice to see some creativity in it just to spice things up.
Want me to send you a review I did with one of the Heart and Soul entries and how a Magnetron will be a perfect edition for my third Transformers movie? :D


What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?
Like Breezy, not only just advice and praise, but also some personality in them. It shows that the reviewer not only enjoyed your story but reviewing it also. I remember some of my favorite reviews from NE are the ones like the few people that said they'll shoot Jacob if he comes near them. XD

When I review, I try to put some humor in it too since I do enjoy reviewing. :)

PokemonHero
16th August 2009, 3:14 AM
What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

I actually appreciate criticism. If there's something that you didn't like, point it out and I'll attempt to explain it to you, or fix the offending part. It helps me know that I need to watch out for similar spots as I write. I also like people saying what parts they liked, so I know that it is something that my audience is interested in.

purple_drake
16th August 2009, 1:18 PM
What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

H-uh. Much like everyone else has said, some praise is great, and I really appreciate criticism if only because it seems like I don't get all that much of it, so when I do it really helps me keep my feet on the ground, as it were.

What I absolutely love is when reviews outright analyse my fics in terms of technique ... I have a habit of trying to insert puns and symbols and whatnot into my stories, and especially nods to some of my other stories (since a lot of them tend to cross the same universe), so I love it whenever a reader picks up on something like that. Even if the interpretation isn't what I intended, it's so much fun to know that someone's reading to that depth, and when they have it completely right, just yes. I love it.

Mrs. Lovett
16th August 2009, 3:47 PM
This club is pretty interesting, it's about time I joined :P

I've always had an interest in writing, and I've written a LOT in my life. I mostly write stories based on real life, not fanfictions. I do have a Pokemon one-shot on here, and I'm definitely planning on writing more. I'm currently working on a rewrite of a fanfiction I posted on here with my old account, but it's nowhere near completion yet. With luck, I'll be able to finish a good deal of the chapters by December.

What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?
I put a lot of effort into my writing, and I appreciate it when reviewers give praise. But, I also want them to be completely honest with me and point out anything that bothers them about my writing. I want them to point me in the right direction so I can improve. Nothing more, nothing less.

Mimori Kiryu
16th August 2009, 5:24 PM
What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

As everyone else has probably said, I like it when a reviewer tells me what they didn't like and gives me suggestions to fix it. I don't want them to say, "Well, this part sucked." I want them to tell me what was exactly wrong with it and maybe they misunderstood the scene and I can explain it better outside the story than within. I also like the reviewers that tell me about my characters and whether they hate/love them, depending on what side of the story they're on. It shows me they're really into my story and I'm doing my job as an authoress to give them another world to delve into. ^^

LightingKimba
17th August 2009, 12:19 AM
A-heh-heh... Do you guys mind if I ask a topic question? ;^^ I promise it's not a half-bad one.

How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?
The main reason I ask this is... I really haven't a clue how to ask that, and there's times when I see it on boards.

Really, my characters are generally based on certain tropes most of the time (Kazuki being the Chivalrous Pervert (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ChivalrousPervert), for example), though they eventually develop other traits as well. Yes, boring answer, but frankly, I haven't a clue how to answer that without being flat as heck.

FlamingRuby
17th August 2009, 1:33 AM
I base my OCs on myself and people I know mainly, but I will also base them on other video game/anime characters. (For example, Vince, the warrior in my Final Fantasy fic, is loosely based on Steiner from FF9, only toned down and much nicer)

Bay
17th August 2009, 3:27 AM
How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?
NE I based off characters from all over the place--some from anime, some from movies, some from games, some from real life, etc. Bunny is based off a couple of my quirks, but she's the stuffy version of Elizabeth from Pride and Prejudice . Jacob is a mixture of Sir Teabing from Da Vinci Code and my European History professor. Jenny is based off from the Officer Jennies in the Pokemon anime, but I expanded her personality a lot. She also is based a little bit of me and a bit of one of my university friends who likes to joke around a lot. Brenda is based off from one of the old ladies you meet in the Lost Tower from the DPPt games. Timmy and Lucas I based them off from various crime shows and novels (too much to list :P).

Mimori Kiryu
17th August 2009, 9:00 AM
How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?

For Appearing in the Moonlight, originally both Kisa and Aya were directly based off of myself and my friend. They were self inserts which is definitely not cool, so after changing a bit of their appearances and their personalities, I've created a semi-version of us, but with their own sets of quirks. Some times Kisa doesn't react to things the same way I would (She'll stay and fight instead of run away. xD) and Aya is very trusting, unlike my friend. I also try to base their beliefs off of characters in the original anime, seeing as opinions of the characters in the show will often need to corrilate/match your character, depending on how sadistic your character is. XD

For other fanfiction, I hardly use OCs unless I'm creating an outside friend for a canon character. Just like that one random person they can talk to that doesn't know anything about their actual situation. In that case, I actually base them directly off myself, but that's only because it's easier to write in that way. Giving advice in a way I don't believe wouldn't be easy to write about. :[ I get the feeling that made absolutely no sense at all. Oh well.

But anywho, it really depends on what the OC is actually for to know how I come up with them.

Blackjack Gabbiani
17th August 2009, 11:57 AM
For Obsession, which, despite centering around a canon character, is the most OC-populated fic I have, I needed roles to fill.

Asaph came about because Jirarudan needed a mentor. I'd already decided that his art interest wasn't something he was raised with, so it had to come from an outside source. Asaph represents the field of collecting as presented in the story--on the surface calm and distinguished, but with complex underlying problems.

Jiri needed a childhood friend too, so Veronica. At first she was simply a sounding board for him; someone to get close to, and someone to (*spoiler*) later on (no she's not going to die in the fic. It's something else). But right before starting chapter 19, something hit me. She's mad for Legendaries, and will be the catalyst for his pursual of Lugia. There's also something else in chapter 19 that she very briefly makes reference to...we'll be hearing more about that in 20 when I actually get around to writing it.

Corbin, Jirarudan's father, is a far better father than Jiri gives him credit for. However, it's not nearly as good of one as he thinks he is. He tries to understand his son, but he doesn't know how to go about that. He and Gloria split up when Jiri was a baby, and now, all of a sudden 8 years later he has to be a father out of the blue. So consequently he's tired a lot (emotionally), and very scared about failing as a father.

Helen is basically because Jiri needed both a mother figure and someone at the factory who he didn't completely hate. Oddly, I think I've fleshed her out more than Corbin.

Griff4815
17th August 2009, 12:15 PM
Luphinid Silnaek and Pikablu Lv.X , you're added. =)

Ohh, new topic. What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

Besides the praise? But what? =P Nah, I like it when they tell me what parts in particular got a laugh out of them in my main fic, or just generally what they liked. Quoted stuff is nice to see for that, and also is interesting to see if any references or the such I make are picked up or not.

I also like to know what parts I could improve on, or what parts fell flat, and so forth - the critic, so you will. Praise is always nice and all, but I seem to get a fair bit of the 'mindless' variety half the time, so I'm thankful for the reviewers I have who do some/all of the above. =)

I think this sums up what I like in a review. A mixture of both. That said, I like any review, for the most part. xP

How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?

Erm, I'm not really sure. Sometimes I take bits and pieces from characters on TV that I think are well done, other times I look at the situation they're in and think what they'd probably be like. I have a lot of OCs, so it's hard to think of a particular way.

Mrs. Lovett
17th August 2009, 2:36 PM
How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?
It's really hard to explain... sometimes I take different aspects of myself or other people and combine them into one character. When I'm working with two characters with very different personalities, sometimes I use different sides of myself. For example, I could use the shy side of me to write a character who doesn't talk too much, and the loud side of me to write a character who is outgoing. I can base a character off of anyone if their personality strikes me as interesting.

Ysavvryl
17th August 2009, 3:56 PM
Since I write with almost all OCs... they come from just about every source I have. Books, friends, video games, movies, and music. I even had one character that was partly inspired by a colorful cartoony character on a candy wrapper. Once I've got the inspiration, then I decide what personality mold they fit best. I like it best when they don't quite fit the mold, though, because then they seem very much themselves.

I let them talk with me, so to speak, about what they should be doing in a story and where the plot should go. And then I just keep track of their progress, making sure they don't contridict themselves unless they're not really contradicting.

purple_drake
17th August 2009, 5:02 PM
How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?

Well, my fic with the most OCs in it is 'Choice and Consequence', if only because the main character and her rival are OCs. Keegan was originally a self-insert, but as time (and drafts) progressed she became her own character. Tynan was supposed to be her 'rival', but I wanted to make him something different from the typical rival archetype and considered ways this could be done, with the result that his personality in my head was rather complicated and he turned out a failure the first time because of my inexperience (though he's since become a lot truer to his actual character).

Most of my other fics tend to revolve around canon characters, but in the event I do need an OC I consider, firstly, why I need them. If I could conceivably have a canon character perform the task (even if it's done differently to what I originally intended), then I don't bother creating an OC. If it turns out I do need an OC, then I consider what kind of personality/occupation/etc they would need to have to do what I need them to do. Then, if said role has some kind of stereotype attached to it, I consider how I can subvert or reverse that in the page-time the character has. Like in 'The good fight', I needed a Rocket member to be able to kill without question and who was high enough to give orders, as a juxtaposition against Lance's own position as lead; that led to the creation of Jace Patterson, sub-admin. The first thing that came to mind for that kind of character is the sneering, arrogant, revels-in-pain type, so I tried to turn him into an impassive man who literally can't understand the fuss.

In terms of appearance, I think I have a subconscious bias against blondes, because it seems like a lot of characters turn out to be blondes, so I tend towards brown-haired 'cos it's more ... unnoticeable? I dunno. Mostly I just pick something and play around with it for a bit, and see whether it suits. I did once make a throwaway Rocket a redhead, and then the entire character including name and backstory came after that just because I apparently have a thing for redheads ... so may as well take that as a lesson: sometimes OCs blindside you out of nowhere. Even when you don't need them. XD

Anyway. Usually all that's enough set-up so the character can grow into something in their own right, if it turns out I need them for more than a throwaway instance. Often it means they start growing on their own and I want to keep using them even when they're supposed to effing die, dammit.

So, yeah, pretty much what Blackjack's already said, I look at the roles I need to fill and go from there. XD

Also you owe me sleep, you linked me to TV Tropes and now I've lost over three hours surfing it compulsively again ahhrgh. D<

SlowCrow
18th August 2009, 1:46 AM
A club dedicated to the writing, development, and discussion of Fan Fiction as well as Pokémon? And you could join without necessarily writing Fan Fiction? I don't see a reason not to join! :D

Well, seeing the trend here, it seems to me like every other post from now on is going to be significantly shorter than the introduction post (unless the writers here go into a full-scale debate, of course), so I'll just make this post a long of a introduction as I can in order to "compensate".

As you can plainly see on the top part of my post, I'm SlowCrow, and it's apparent that I'm not the most active of posters. While I do not post every hour of every day to get my post count up, I do come to quickly peek at the Fan Fic and Author's Café boards from time to time. I actually do a fair bit of peaking, really; and I actually read through every last page of the Writer's Group discussion (about 160 pages of comments) just because I wanted to have a perspective on what should really be discussed at the time, if that puts the effort I put into "peeking" into perspective. I also occasionally do a review (or rather, create a collection of comments while pointing out a few odd errors) for elyvorg's fic, Lost Evolution, from time to time; that being the only "review" work I actually do as of now, but that might change if I can trek through the MASSIVE amount of chapters that other fics in progress have. All that's really stopping me is the possibility that my comments wouldn't really be of any use to the authors I'd make them to.

I also happen to be a rather inexperienced writer who's relatively new to the mystical realm that is Fan Fiction. Although I'm not completely new to writing, I don't have much skill nor experience in actually doing it properly since all of my previous experience consist of scripted works that were never completed. I only have one work that's a Fan Fic, a Pokémon fic by the name of Bug III, which I haven't begun to really flesh out yet, let alone complete. Although Bug III isn't longer than six or so chapters, it's actually something I want to complete, but there are a fair share of difficulties I'm having in writing the thing since I'm just so new to the whole process. In fact, the main reason in joining this club is to find something, whether it be another fic or several great pieces of advice, to give me that inspirational jolt I need to get over my hiatus, get writing, and actually improve Bug III so that it could both benefit me and entertain an audience that finds it interesting; maybe inspiring a new set of writers to get working on their own fics. It may sound like I'm being overly optimistic in a topic that is only about discussing Fan Fiction, but you can't blame this crow, now can you? :P

Other than being an observer and an amateur writer, I don't have that much to contribute in the way of Fan Fics, but I think I could entertain a random subject that comes my way in this topic if I had to. >_>

If procrastination strikes, what do you do to overcome it?

That's a rather odd question for me since I haven't really wrote my fic for about two years, but I'll give it a go. Since my fic follows several characters and problems at once, if I can't come up with anything for one particular group of characters, I'll simply start write about another group that I feel that I could easily do a scenario about in regards to the current matters (if not, I'd make create a new group to settle the current and future needs) and type whatever works best. If I can't come up with anything, I'd just work on some of the backstory that has yet to affect the characters and possibly create an element with which can be explored further by the characters themselves.

What is the setting for your fic/s place-wise, and time-wise - past, 'present' or future?
The setting for Bug III? That would be modern-day planet Earth. As for how the setting would affect the story in any way, I'm personally stumped on the matter, but I'm steadfast on keeping it away from in-game regions or AUs. >_>

How much do you (try) to write a day for a minimum?

Per day is something I wouldn't remember after the two years I haven't been actively writing my fic, but I recal that I would try to get about 1,500-2,000 or so words within the space of two evenings in order to meet my personal chapter minimum. Looking at it now, that's rather short for one whole chapter, especially considering that I managed to write eleven and a half pages in one sitting during the original active run of the fic. I don't know how much I could pump out now, but I don't expect that much more since I haven't written anything since I stopped writing Bug III.

What do you like to see from a reviewer (besides eloquent and all-surpassing praise)?

What I hate to see are one liners and comments that state that they found an error during the course of reading the chapter, but don't bother to point out its location. What I like to see are reviews that analyze the information present in the chapter presented and try to make sense of it, lengthy breakdowns of what works/doesn't work in the fic and how I could improve it, and basically anything else that shows that the reader spent more than half an hour composing the message and the content in it.


And becasue I'm so full of questions and not enough answers, why not have some more questions to discuss amongst yourselves? :O

What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull foff in the future?

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pokémon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?


Well, that’s what I have to say about that for now. See you guys when you respond.

-__________________- Kaw.

Ysavvryl
18th August 2009, 3:20 AM
I can't resist... but short answers for now since there's multiple questions.


1. What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

I start fixing the mistakes, invariably. Sometimes I get to a point and wonder 'What was I thinking here?'. There's one older story of mine that I'm trying to simplify; it's way overcomplicated.


2. When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

It was a two page story I hand-wrote in class. So probably ten minutes.


3. What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull foff in the future?

I despise writing battle scenes. That's always where I get stuck. On the other hand, my personality-exploring dialogue goes on and on... a scene I really want to pull off? An epic battle that I like.


4. How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?

Lots of focus. Everybody can relate to food. One past story had cooking and food as one of its major themes.


5. Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pokémon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?

I do this often and in detail. In Ballad, I strayed in one conversation to explain why ten-year-old Trainers can beat Pokemon Masters.

LightingKimba
18th August 2009, 4:15 AM
1. What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

Oh yes... The times of checking up on your old work, to see what you thought was half-way decent is, in reality, actually pretty bad compared to your newer work. It's like sword making: Your original sword's usually going to be very crappy compared to your seasoned, newer swords, with much sharper blades.

My OC fanfic, Like a Line Drive!, suffers from the bulk of the older chapters actually being... Well, I see them rather boorish compared to the newer ones. It's a strange feeling seeing that all the mistakes you thought you found a few weeks ago in one chapter... Actually are still there, in greater numbers. I've even started a small project of correcting all these needless errors, though I'm only 8/35 of the way finished... Yeah, I'm rather lazy.


2. When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

I'm still on my first fic. XD

Really, I can't really see much of an "end" to my fic, since its main premise is a parody. All I can say it'll probably in with some clich&#233; down the road, just haven't bothered making a good plot, since, you know, me likey comedy, me no likey drama and story. ;P


3. What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?

Drama. Oh my goodness, drama. Ever since I've started writing classes in school, my drama scenes were bashed to no end. And I really never got much better AT drama! I just don't have a flow for angst, opening of feelings... Anything like that. You can actually see the reason why I favor shounen and comedy animes than the more drama-filled ones.

My strong point's probably uh... Well actually, I don't really know. There's a few people who seem to like my dialogue writing, but... I dunno how that's actually a good point. Oh woo, I could make a real life conversation in text form, amazing. Really, I haven't a clue what in the world my strong point is. XD

Obviously in the future, I want to pull off a strong, gripping scene of friends observing their feelings for each other. Not exactly in terms of love, but... Like, whether they're true rivals, or are they doing the "right thing", or trying to figure out the best way of survival. Those types of things.


4. How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?

There's one character in Like a Line Drive! who's obsessed with food. Not in terms of eating, more like in terms of it being the deciding factor of a person's personality. Really, fruits are replaced by berries, anything meat-related is generally passed over, general "standards" for Pok&#233;mon fics.

The character himself sees it that people are drawn to x meal over a bond with their inner person. Strange-sounding, I know, but I wanted to find at least something that wasn't too related to animals/souls/etc., but still seemed weird to even try to understand.


5. Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?

Pok&#233;mon technology, in my opinion, is run on a similar basis as our world. Well, the similarity being electricity for most, if not, all of the technology. The difference is where it's acquired, which I used the anime's excuse with various Electric type pok&#233;mon generating the electricity. Rarely I wonder about technology in Pok&#233;mon in general, because... I just take it for granted. I don't see a need to worry so much about the technology in the games, when it seems like it's "x point in future, everything is advanced". For me, it's like wondering about the internet's main origin in Megaman.EXE
(that was explained later...)

Oh! I also have a small quick question for entertainment purposes.

In your Pok&#233;mon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pok&#233;mon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?

purple_drake
18th August 2009, 6:47 AM
Hey, woah, guys! Too many topics at once is against the club rules, remember:

If there is a new, active topic (less than a day old minimum), than please refrain from making a new topic - no need to have several running around at the same time. Otherwise, go ahead and make one!

And it gets overloading for the people who want to answer them all. @.@


What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

It depends on how old it is. If it's so old that there's a marked changed in quality, then it usually makes me cringe and close the window. If it's oldish but not so old that the quality has degraded too much, then I tend to fix the mistakes and touch it up. Often, in either case, I feel the urge to rewrite it if the idea's still good. I actually really enjoy rereading my past fanfiction, though; generally it's an excellent way for me to get into a fandom again.


When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

Not long. When I get story ideas, usually the concept comes first, which usually ends up being expressed in a way that's appropriate for a climax. For me, the ending is often the first thing to become set in stone, and then the rest of the story follows. Since I make a habit of plotting out the entire story before I get too far into writing it, it doesn't take me long at all. CaC was about my first fanfic (or my first chaptered fanfic, anyway), and even after having gone through several drafts the ending is the one thing that's stayed constant. Can't quite remember what happened with HotM, which came before it, but since I went into that story wanting to give the Magmas motive for their goals, I already knew where that story would go even before I nutted out the beginning.


What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?

For weak points, mine would probably be really chaotic scenes ... like pokemon battles with tons of pokemon in them. Partly it's because most of said battles are practically life-and-death in my fics, so it not only includes the pokemon, it includes the people, and with that many beings involved in a knock-down it's hard to keep track of them all without losing threads. And of course because my fics are often action, that mean I have a lot of said scenes. ._. Though I've been told I'm getting better at them, so ...

Strong point, probably character introspection or ... well, yeah. Stuff that's implicitly character-focussed. As for scenes I want to pull off, well, the next chapter of CaC is pretty much a knock-down brawl between three different sides each with at least two people, each of whom have at least two pokemon. Partly I just want to get it over with. Partly I'm terrified it'll fail. ._.; But if it doesn't (fail, that is) I think it'd turn out pretty cool.


How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?

Not really ... I think I only have about one scene in CaC where the characters eat something, and it's an introduction for one of said characters. Food and the necessity of eating (especially while travelling) is mentioned, but mostly passed over.

May I ask the motivation for this question? XD


Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?

Hmm, how to answer this one ... I don't usually focus specifically on the technology, but I do generally think of the Pokemon world as several steps ahead of the real world's technology at any one point, at least in terms of certain aspects of technology. For instance, military technology, not so much, but I'd think they have a deeper understanding of physics than we do (hence the pokeballs).

If it ever arises in-fic, it's mostly assumed knowledge--because the characters take it for granted--unless, of course, I'm using a character who is from a different setting, in which case the technology will be highlighted and usually briefly explained by the relevant mouthpiece.

Mostly, though, yes, I do have explanations for some of the Pokeworld's technology, and where appropriate I do use them in-fic; but unless I have reason to go into detail about how it's done, then it's just passed over as 'yes, this thing does this', without explaining why.


In your Pok&#233;mon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pok&#233;mon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?

Warning: slight rant.

Well, yes, it is important, frankly. A character is a character, whether they're human or not. It can be hard because there tends to be more pokemon on a team (as opposed to the single human trainer), so even working with a single given trainer you'll have a number of side characters, but that's a problem whenever you have a lot of characters anyway.

Of course, it really depends on how much page-time the character gets which sets how much personality they get, but that's true for any character, not just a pokemon; if a character's just a throwaway, there's not much point in giving them anything but the most basic of personalities, because you're just not gonna have the time and space to fill them out.

So, yes, I do 'bother', at least as far as I always give a person as much of a personality as is affordable even if they're just background, and I see no reason for pokemon not to be given the same respect. Even if you take the view that they're not any smarter than real animals, even animals have personalities, so if they're going to be there for any length of time they should be filled out like any other character.

Bay
18th August 2009, 8:13 AM
*Looks at the huge amount of topics and dies*

Yeah, I too going to go short answers for now. D:


What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?
One time I was looking through an old romance fic of mines and I at first cringed and then I laughed out loud at how bad I did the romance. No wonder I placed so low in that Romance one shot contest. XD;

When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?
Didn't take me too long when I wrote "Heart of the Sea" considering I planned it as a short story. However, I did wrote some scenes that I then deleted do to the nature of some of them. :X


What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull foff in the future?
Weak point: ROMANCE. D:

Strong point: Either suspense or comedy as I'm most comfortable writing one of those type of scenes.

As for a scene I want to pull off in the future, I would actually like to do a Pokemon battle scene that takes place downtown and at night after playing a little bit of Pokemon Battle Revolution. Not sure if I want to do it in a fanfic or as a one shot though. Might be one shot so that I can improve my battle scenes after I did horribly in that Battle one shot contest. XD

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?
Food is not really the focus unless Balin the Ninetales is able to find it. ;)

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?
Only time I did that is the Pokemon Center PC in NE. Basically how I did it is the user would have to put their name and password (like seriously, how else would you be able to get your Pokemon at another center and also with thousands of other trainers using it too XD).

In your Pok&#233;mon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pok&#233;mon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?
Yes I do and I think it's important. The Pokemon in the story is as important as the human characters. NE I did that, although I think I could have flesh out Eisen the Noctowl and Jenny's Vesquien more. I had only flesh out their personality during the battle scenes as that's when they're let out instead of the other Pokemon characters. ._.

Blackjack Gabbiani
18th August 2009, 9:14 AM
What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

I can't stand most of my older stuff.



When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

I was three. I don't remember.



What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?

Action scenes. I can't write scenes with a lot of action or description to save my life.
My strong point is introspection and dialogue.
What I want to write is large-scale battle, since my original story centers around a lot of it.


How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?

In Obsession, it sets the mood sometimes. I try to make it a very sensory fic. Combine that with that the main character in it is trying to become a society man and he's learning what's considered upper-class...yeah.

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pokémon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it? [/QUOTE]

I try. But holy cow it ain't easy. Especially since even with glossing it over, I'm going to have to come up with even a passing idea as to how the damn Hikoukyuu (the airship from the second movie) flies. It's the size of a community college! That thing should NOT be airworthy at ANY size!




Speaking of Obsession, I haven't written any of it since I finished chapter 19 last November. I need help on it seriously and nothing comes at all.

Griff4815
18th August 2009, 12:52 PM
In your Pokémon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pokémon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?

Of course. NITWOMP could be said to be a character drama and it's unrealistic if the characters are just flat and, frankly, I'd be a little ashamed of myself if I left the characters as flat.

FlamingRuby
18th August 2009, 3:29 PM
What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

I'll get nostalgic and touch it up.

When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?


Not too long--ironically enough, I got bogged down with a filler.

What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?


Weak point: Beginnings

Strong point: Comic, musical number, and crazy scenes

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?


If food is involved in my work, one of two things will happen:

A.: Perfectly normal meal

or B.: Food fight

Sometimes perfectly normal meals have devolved into food fights

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?


Yes I will do this if an explanation is not given or implied in the show. They are typically done in a question and answer style--one character (representing the audience) asks the questions, the know-it-all character (representing me) gives the answers. My answers can get pretty detailed, which is why they don't appear too often

In your Pok&#233;mon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pok&#233;mon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?

Yes--they're no different than fleshing out the human characters.

Ysavvryl
18th August 2009, 4:45 PM
On giving Pokemon personalities...

The Pokemon characters are just as important as the human characters, in my opinion. I actually avoid the typical 'three Trainers traveling together' since, in my style, that would be way too many characters to handle at once (three humans plus three to eighteen Pokemon). And it's happened that I like the Pokemon's character more than its Trainer's character.

The thing about making personalities for Pokemon is that you have to consider things that would be unimportant to humans. Got a predatory Pokemon? You have to consider its prey/not-prey mindset and the instinctual 'happiness' of hunting. Got a Grass Pokemon? You should consider the importance of the sun and the ground. Got a Flying Pokemon? Consider how it thinks about its wings and the air currents.

LightingKimba
18th August 2009, 5:38 PM
Eheheh... Sorry about supporting the extra-topics thing, I just felt so fired up with all these new insights and ideas, I thought it'd be fun to add a li'l more discussion. ;^^

On the pokémon's personalities subject, I usually try to make them as "human" as possible, without going over the line, or even their personalities appearing to be a result to their trainer's.

For example, we have Jun. He could be considered a [url=http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Darwinist[darwinist[/url], the type of guy who's in pursuit of pure strength and power. You'd think his pokémon are fierce and primo, right?

This is not the case for him, where most of his anger is directed at his pokémon, where their behavior is the opposite to his. His Garchomp's more Jolly than a Ash's Gliscor, is an example of his pokémon's odd traits.

Really, I like having the pokémon to be more than little obedient fiends. Makes them a bit more appealing.

Janovy
18th August 2009, 6:22 PM
Hi all :)

I do not know if I will be accepted in this thread as never had a story running longer than two days, but I enjoy reading fan fictions, especially the ones about Pokemon and I certainly hope I can join :p

SlowCrow
18th August 2009, 10:25 PM
Hey, woah, guys! Too many topics at once is against the club rules, remember:


If there is a new, active topic (less than a day old minimum), than please refrain from making a new topic - no need to have several running around at the same time. Otherwise, go ahead and make one!

And it gets overloading for the people who want to answer them all. @.@


*Looks at the huge amount of topics and dies*

Yeah, I too going to go short answers for now. D:


*Casually avoids questions*

Whoops, sorry guys, I guess I went sorta overboard with the questions; I should have just gone with three instead of five. And hopefully bobandbill won't hit me over the head with the BANHAMMER and his ego when he gets back. Well, I guess I'll have to hold back any further questions until the discussion starts slowing down again. Sorry for the wall-o-questions scare; I did it only due to the fact that my fic wasn't nearly long enough to answer the topic that was being discussed at the time. ^_^'

And speaking of introducing a new topic, what length of time (or amount of discussion) would have to pass for a topic to be considered "old"?

While I'm here, I would like to set a deadline for August 22nd, in which I would like to write the rough-draft for the rewritten prologue for Bug III. Slather the guilt real thick for my sake. :P

Silawen
19th August 2009, 12:44 PM
Wow, I didn't realize there was a new fanfiction club. Really, I can never keep up with these things. (If it's not in the fanfiction section, I rarely see it.) I'll have to bookmark it to keep up to date.

I would love to join again. My interest in fanfiction has always been great and while I'm horrendously busy these days, I do hope to go back to reviewing and writing regularly again. Especially because I'm about 3/4th ready with a new chapter for my fic 'Caught In The Moment'.


How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?

I enjoy coming up with characters a lot, so I always have a few ideas running around in my head. If they fit the setting I need them in, then I throw them in.

Usually they start out as a character trait that I want to explore and/or use. From that I create a more complex character. For instance, if anyone has read my fic, Amy started out with 'awkward', while Carrie was 'nurturing' and the dodrio trainer - her name escapes me - 'flashy'.

bobandbill
19th August 2009, 1:15 PM
Hey, woah, guys! Too many topics at once is against the club rules, remember:

And it gets overloading for the people who want to answer them all. @.@
Yeah - can understand the enthusiasm for topic-making and all, but not all of use have time to answer everything at once/procastinate that much. XD Besides...

*Looks at the huge amount of topics and dies*...we don't want our members to die now, do we? And god forbid letting griff get away with being casual, even if it was his birthday. =P Hence why that rule is there and all, really. *throws his banhammer as his ego levels up to over 9000*

But welcome anyways, SlowCrow. As for how long between topics... about a day between each one is what I'd say is fine, more or less - there's no exact hard line with it though, just a guideline so people don't die.

And welcome to Mrs. Lovett and ben_pokemon as well. And Silawen, who almost ninja'd my post and escaped my notice! =)

Well, I have a bit of time and no drive to study any longer, so I'll actually answers those questions anyways. Whee, questions... with spoiler-filled answers! Oh well.

How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?

I haven't had to come up with many, tbh, given my fic works with characters from Pokemon Colosseum. XD A fair few though of those characters are NPCs, which come with very little of a personality and so forth attached to them (or basically none at all), so with those minor ones I can practically make them my own.

Of course, most of those end up having a brief cameo already given their lack of importance in the game and nothing more, but a few characters stick around for a while. Furthermore I have the odd character not based on any NPCs, since a number of scenes and hence characters, I make up to explain parts of the game.

What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

Like others... I'm still on my first fic. XD I have a few older 'versions' of earlier chapters about though, so I suppose I cringe a little, yet. XD

When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

I'm... still on that first fic. =P And considering I am kinda following the Colosseum plot (only making it BETTUR!!!1!!) it wasn't hard for me to follow it. XD Yeah... probably not the question for me.

What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull foff in the future?

Hmm... Romance might be a weak point for me, considering I actually haven't given it much of a go. Yeah... Others may include the suspense, serious scenes, or tragedy, simply as I don't really feel as comfortable writing that sort of thing as other genres. Battle scenes may need a bit of work as well.

I'd say my strength is comedy - by far my favourite to write, and easiest for me to slip into as well.

As for scenes I'd like to write... idk. Anything with Tom (character or mine) and/or Miror B always interests me however. XD Wouldn't mind battle scenes so I oculd improve in them as well...

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?
=D

Well, in my fic I have this thing going, in which within every chapter, there is a pastry, or pastry-related item. Kinda just came out of nowhere, but I've run with it so far. Sometimes it's just a casual mention others it serves a purpose within a joke.

Furthermore... within my fic, an Umbreon has a liking for bacon (and Spoink), a Plusle has a love for potatos, there's a food-fight scene, and at one point food is used to get on the good side of Pokemon, temporarily at least.

Yeah... I sure like food in my fics. XD

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pokémon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?

Occassionally I may have an explanation on something in the Pokemon world and technology, although admittedly there's not much on that - my explanations in my fic tend to be more Colosseum-related and all, explaining features and events and what-not in Orre instead of some things in the Pokemon world as a whole. Well, so far, that is...

In your Pokémon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pokémon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?

Like others, I also bother giving x trainer's Pokemon a personality of some sort, even though I don't believe I'm all that good at it. XD I find that differing characters interacting can bring about many an opportunity for comedy, and as I try to make my fic as amusing as possible at times, I tend to look into giving Pokemon personalities to allow that.

That, and they just tend to be important characters in my fic as well, especially as it deals with Colosseum's story and hence Shadow Pokemon - I've been careful to try and implement some sort of character development and show a gradual purification process taking place.


Updated your deadline, SlowCrow - you're already close to it as well, so... hurry up! >:)

(And purple_drake, you have a bit under two weeks.) =P

Janovy
19th August 2009, 1:29 PM
How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?
It is relatively easy for me to make up a character, as I easily add them all weakness and strengths, fears and wishes but I mostly come up with them by reading novels or watching television :p

What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

I laugh :D
Seriously, all my past works have been so dull and boring without any description until I've read that thread for aspiring authors. Ive also read NE by Bay what inspired me not to give up so I continued and here I am working on my fic.

When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?
I know this sounds funny but...I always think the climax first and make the characters later. So it is easy for me.

What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull foff in the future?
Romance is my weak point but I would like to try it out in the later future, though. My stronger points, mystery and comedy :D

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?
Not big, although it is mentioned as a prize in the second chapter of my upcoming fiction.

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?
Never did before, but I am intending too, when I come to the Pokemon storage system which will play a huge role in my story. I will explain how do trainers store their Pokemon into computers.

In your Pok&#233;mon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pok&#233;mon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?
Yes I do and it is very important for me. Pokemon are living things too and they have emotions just like humans. They can be ignorant, bossy, arrogant or even slacking. It a part of nature.
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Man, this took a while. Why so many topics at the same time. Anyway, thank you for letting me in your club. I will let you know when my fan fiction is posted so you review it (if you want to) :p

Griff4815
19th August 2009, 1:33 PM
What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?

Hmm... descriptive scenes, I'm bad at. My strong point is probably stuff with character interaction and development. And yes there is...

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?

I address the eating of food. It always bugs me when people never eat in trainer fics. I wouldn't say it's a plot point though.

Diddy
19th August 2009, 10:37 PM
I'm taking the questions from quotes okay. Yes I am lazy -_-


How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?
I rarely write canon characters. I think the only time I did was in Angel of Mercy and for those of you who read it you'll know I never really did make Nurse Joy a very good canon follower xD

I usually just make up a person who I'd like to have in a certain situation and fit an appearance around them. I do base some OC's off people, but they are rare, it's usually just a homage anyway.


What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

If I made a funny, I usually laugh at how brilliant I was... or fairly witty. Anyway, it wasn't really old but when I read over chapter three of a fic I'm writing now I couldn't stop laughing because I made it a jokey (but still plot serious) chapter, but in general you shouldn't take it too seriously.

All my REALLY old work got deleted in the great memory wipe of about a year ago, back when I used to write on the family computer. I know it was terrible though.


When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

I usually just think of a general plot then make up plot points as I go along. Although there is one thing that I want to write. Something what I call a 'concept arc' somewhat akin to a concept album. I'm having a theme and writing a small chapter arc which sits in that theme and whilst essential plot progression it doesn't really go anywhere. It's there to be awesome xD


What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?

Weak point - probably keeping a scene going for longer without boring the reader or making stupid, inane points.

Strong point - I can quite funny when I want to be. Erm, does rambling incessently about non-essential things count?

As for the future I'd really love to pull off a true horror scene.


How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?

It's not focused on but it is there. For example I have a scene where the MC talks about what food her pokemon would like to eat, there are a few scenes where she eats with her parents. But something like food is something you can be expected to have beyond the fiction. You know it's there but it's not really needed in most fics. My best portayal of food? Definitely my first posted one-shot Serial where the MC eats the kirlia's heart.



Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?

I've written an essay about the history and construction of a pokeball. No seriously, I'll post it here if you want xD

It was going to turn into a fic but then I got bored with it.



In your Pok&#233;mon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pok&#233;mon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?

Most definitely. I try to bring them into the forefront and make them characters in their own rights rather than supporting cast. Favourite pokemon written? (Besides Ramirez obviously) Probably the banette who spoke only in rhyme from an unposted short chaptered fic.


Yes, certainly a lot of questions xD

SlowCrow
20th August 2009, 3:53 AM
May I ask the motivation for this question? XD
Well, I wanted to create a more or less nonstandard question where I would have to make the author double take in order to answer it. It seems like it worked for some while making others somewhat giddy. :P


Yeah - can understand the enthusiasm for topic-making and all, but not all of use have time to answer everything at once/procastinate that much.
Eh heh heh. Yeah, sorry about that again, but at least people are answering them on their own will and making decently sized posts because of it, right? ^_^'


But welcome anyways, SlowCrow. As for how long between topics... about a day between each one is what I'd say is fine, more or less - there's no exact hard line with it though, just a guideline so people don't die.
It's always good to be welcomed; especially since I haven't really been welcomed to anything on these boards, kaw! <:V

As for the recommended subject length, wouldn't that mean that we would have to get some new questions after today to replace the subject-fest that was here? On second thought, we would have to wait for the procrastinators and people who're busy to give their input before the next subject since there are SOOOOO many questions (I mean, we almost lost one due to shock! :O).


Updated your deadline, SlowCrow - you're already close to it as well, so... hurry up! >:)
And I suspect that a flurry of index fingers will descend on me at midday Friday to poke me to finish that rough draft; hopefully, it'll pressure me enough to write it. XP

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And seeing how I posed all of these questions onto you guys, it's only fair that I answer them myself (and I'm copying Diddy because it looks neater that way). :D


What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?
Although my reaction varies from work to work, but cringing, however, is always present when I’m reading through works that I’ve done long ago.

When I’m reading through some of the newer scripted works I still have laying around, I tend to scrunch my eyebrows in confusion over the word usage and grammatical errors I find, but raise them in equal but slightly more awestruck confusion when I can see some actual humor. If I don’t put it away due to the sheer cringing, I’ll get to the unfinished section of the scripted work and actually ask myself something to the effect of: “Why didn’t I write more of this? It still manages to be somewhat gripping through all of its flaws!”

As for the older scripted works, I tend to overlook the word usage and grammatical errors that I would moan over in later works merely due to the fact that the characters in those works have even more defined personalities than any of my newer works; it’s something that bothers me each time I read them. Other than the characters, however, those old scripted works don’t have anything that hasn’t been done better with the newer scripts.

When talking about my fic, Bug III, however, things get rather cringy. Since it’s actually my first work that I have actually intended for others to see, I take every error in execution in logic, emotion, or general organization a lot harder than I would if they were in my scripts. I could hardly look at a good three-quarters of the fic without cringing to the extent of closing out the document. I actually stopped writing Bug III a short while after posting it on the Fan Fic boards here (you could still find its dead corpse with a simple search) after a set od reviews by Dragonfree really made me think about the quality of my work. I initially stopped to reflect, but that time turned into days, weeks, months, and is quickly approaching years due to the fact that I could hardly look at the fic without cringing to the Close button. Like my oldest script works, however, Bug III has the faintest sense of interestingness that makes me wonder why I haven’t finished yet, which is why I’m looking to rewrite it. Now the problem is gaining the confidence in skill to make it work. @_@


When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?
As of now, I hardly know how Bug III will really end, let alone the climax. I have a faint idea in my head of what I want to do with it, but I want to see how far I could get with my characters before I could see how far I can go with the plot and it’s mysteries.


What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?
From what I wrote with Bug III and some hindsight, I could tell that I could do some decent, fast-paced action scenes if I honestly tried to.

As for my weak points, that would be anything I haven’t tried yet (which would range from angst to romance) , but I know it’s anything that involves my characters becoming emotional and/or endangered, as I do not have a grip on portraying emotions correctly yet. I also have problems with describing scenery effectively, as well as logical errors.

A scene I really want to do would be a flat out heartwrenching scene that would make the reader cry every time he/she thinks about it. I would like to do a scene like that either near the end or sprinkled throughout Bug III if I really could. The exact reason why is simply because emotion is something I have trouble with, and achieving such a scene to an extreme success such as that would prove that I have mastered it and could pretty much conquer any other aspect of writing that I so choose. :D


How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?
Well, this happens during the bulk of the first section of what’s written in Bug III, so I’ll say it. A student who’s trapped in a burning building uses a bag of leftover potato chips (or crisps as you guys in the U.K and Australia would refer to them as) to get a Charmeleon to guide him out of the school; as for what happens next is a spoiler.

Other than that, food hasn’t been mentioned at all in Bug III, which is something I’ll have to fix… >_>


Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pokémon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?
I can’t really answer this question, but I would like to be able to soon in the future of my fic. As for what I’d like to get into are Pokémon attacks, typings, and TMs & HMs as well as some of the items and berries. I don’t expect to really dive into it right away (or even one chapter), but I’ll probably have to explain them over a period of time.

And why not tackle the other handful of topics while I’m at it? :D


In your Pokémon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's Pokémon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?
Personalities aren’t something I just know I simply do not excel at, but I intend to make (most) of the Pokémon have some sort of personality without actually needing to speak. The fact that some Pokémon have distinct personalities and others not is something that’ll play a significant roll in the fic; I just to need to know exactly how, is all. @_@


How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?
All of my characters are OCs, and they all tend to be random civilians who are pulled into a conflict that is AGES old due to the fact that I add a little more depth to them as I try to write them. Most of the time I didn’t even intend to add those characters in the first place, but they somehow manage to conveniently fit the need and I just use them since they’re already there! :P

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And before I go, I would like to ask if the ONLY thing we do in this club is answer questions and promptly leave, because it would be an awful waste of a whole club rather than a discussion topic. <_>

I guess that wraps up this post. I'll be working on the prologue in the meantime...


-____________________- Kaw.

bobandbill
20th August 2009, 6:48 AM
It's always good to be welcomed; especially since I haven't really been welcomed to anything on these boards, kaw! <:V

As for the recommended subject length, wouldn't that mean that we would have to get some new questions after today to replace the subject-fest that was here? On second thought, we would have to wait for the procrastinators and people who're busy to give their input before the next subject since there are SOOOOO many questions (I mean, we almost lost one due to shock! :O)....Curiously, did you swallow a crow at a young age, or something? =P

And that recommended time-to-wait-for-a-new subject length (which had been set when this club started out) was for the situations not involving a lot of topics being made at once. =P I suppose in this case there's plenty of topics to last a while until they dry out properly. XD

There's also no necessary need to have a new topic every day - just if conversation has stalled or the such, or if someone has a question they want answering. Just a generic minimum, if you will.

A student who’s trapped in a burning building uses a bag of leftover potato chips (or crisps as you guys in the U.K and Australia would refer to them as) to get a Charmeleon to guide him out of the school; as for what happens next is a spoiler.Never heard chips being actually referred to as crisps here in Australia, actually - we much prefer the word chips. But nonetheless, bribing Pokemon with food is always a fine idea. Even British-speaking Pokemon.


And before I go, I would like to ask if the ONLY thing we do in this club is answer questions and promptly leave, because it would be an awful waste of a whole club rather than a discussion topic. <_>Of course not - doesn't have to be just answering the topic questions - as long as one discusses or talks about writing or fanfiction subjects in some way, then it's quite fine. There's a fair bit that can stem from that. (And in another sense, as long as it doesn't break forum rules, it's fine). There's already been posts that haven't been on the topics, for instance. =) And maybe there'd be some (short) writing challenges later on?

*pokes others to poke SlowCrow to hurry up and overcome the deadline*

*pokes SlowCrow to hurry up and overcome the deadline*

Blackjack Gabbiani
20th August 2009, 10:59 AM
OK, I've concluded two things.

1--I need to work on chapter 20 of Obsession
2--I need outside help with this.

And since my normal two motivating forces are starting school, I turn to you. Who here's read Obsession and would be comfortable with discussing plot, character, and misc notes with me? Oh, and who doesn't mind spoilers.

Griff4815
20th August 2009, 2:50 PM
When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

I'm still on my first fic. And to answer the question.... uhhhh.... home in on what I wanted to do with the climax? .... Well.... this is sort of -ahem- embarrassing... ^^;;;

Diddy
20th August 2009, 4:37 PM
Sorry BG, don't really know anything about the certain anime character you're writing about (Lawrence III in english I think?) never watched that movie.


But yeah, I would like to see some small writing challenges. Even if it's something like the 'describe in 150 words or less' thread in the authors cafe a few months back. Or even something like 'write a small article for a newspaper' it'd be fun for a little exercise so the skills don't stagnate.

Blackjack Gabbiani
20th August 2009, 11:47 PM
Awwww.

I'm always surprised how many Pokemon fans never saw 2, but then I never saw 5, so...

Mrs. Lovett
21st August 2009, 12:31 AM
What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?
When I read an older work of mine, I laugh at my mistakes. At the time the writing probably seemed flawless to me, but now that I'm more experienced, I find hundreds of little errors. I don't go all out and say 'EEEWW!' but it scares me a little that at one point, that would have probably been 'awesome writing' to me :/

In your Pok&#233;mon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's Pok&#233;mon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?
I give them subtle personalities, but I don't really focus on them too much. I usually just focus on their immediate likes and dislikes that would differentiate them from another Pokemon.

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?
Yes. The Pokemon world, as I write it, is based partially off of anime and what you would actually find in real life. I just ask myself "How would this work in real life?" A lot of the things in the anime aren't explained fully, and I like to elaborate on those things. Basically, I try to make the Pokemon world as real as possible, and I go into detail explaining it in my story.

What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?
My weak point has to be romance. I simply can't develop a good relationship in a story without making it predictable and cheesy. Romance fictions don't really appeal to me (to write), but if I feel that I'm capable, I might try to write one in the future. My strong points are comedy and horror, and you'll see a lot of mood-switching in my writings :P

Araleon
21st August 2009, 10:14 PM
Welcome to the club, SlowCrow!

...

Wow. That's a lot of topics. I'm only gonna answer one for now, and get back to you on the others, mostly because this one jumped out and bit me...


In your Pokémon fics, do you guys really bother trying to give x trainer's pokémon respective personalities? And if yes, is it really that important to your writing?

Yes. A 1000 times yes. I think that the Pokemon deserve their own personalities too, after all, they're just as important as the humans. Without them, the story would be nonexistent.

Besides, Pokemon have so many possibilities for personalities. My personal favorite Pokemon I've written about so far would be... Oh, that's a tough one. Definitely one of the Pokemon from my one-shot...

Venomoth was a lot of fun, and so was Flareon... And Stantler. then again, all of the 'eons were fun because they're so different. Like I said, a tough question. Bay, Breezy, Golden, and maybe elyvorg if she got to my one-shot will know the personalities I'm talking about.

In the fic I'm planning, I'm excited to right about this one character: a Togepi. He's going to have a Gofather-like personality. Very Italian, very mafia. Very fun. ;)

Praxiteles
22nd August 2009, 5:40 AM
Blackjack Gabbiani, barring questions of how much help I might be and taking for granted that I'll be active here on-and-off, I would be pleased to discuss Obsession with you. I don't believe in the principle behind spoilers (a good story is riveting even when you know all the major plot twists), so there. I've watched all the early movies, it's the 6+ ones that I no longer get the hang of.

What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?
Depending on the story, any of these things. Melancholy at the fact that I once could spend five hours consecutively typing out another chapter, amusement at how it wasn't really that great from a critic's perspective, cringing without end when I see something particularly embarrassing (such as one certain use of the word 'chariotest' in one of my old poems--never come under the influence of poetry by people significantly older than you!), followed by a paranoid search to wipe out all surviving copies of the work, and always quite a lot of encouragement to go rewriting--none of which amounts to anything constructive.

When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?
Either at once or never. At once because the original idea I had before starting the work didn't change significantly after all my embellishment, and never because the plot was constantly gaining new meaning and new purpose, a process that would only end when the fic finished--which never happened.

What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?
Weak point: human interaction. Dialogue is a mystery I haven't ever quite unraveled, and I can never see relationships between my characters as much different from the coexistence of different themes in a mind or different elements in an ecosystem. Perhaps because I don't really recall the last time I had a complex and significant relationship with any other human? Consequently, my scenes of importance to human relationships turn out either completely incoherent (dramatic lines with no comprehensible meaning) or extremely feeble (as though here are two people who really can't relate desperately trying to have small talk). Naturally, my rare dabbling in romance turns out ghastly.

Strong point: personal revelation or other access of emotion. Half my one-shots are about people transcending to a higher plane of existence. I have lots of creative fun with describing the limitless joy of an enlightened soul, or the botomless despair of an unlucky one, and usually represent it in quite elaborate visions. This is probably also because of all the practice I get IRL; one would imagine from looking at me that I pass through at least six cycles of wondrous joy and tragic despair before breakfast.

Battles are things I want to perfect, and probably will in my next fiction. My old habits of dramatic pyrotechnics are sort of menaingless under the WOW factor, and often undermine basic battle mechanics. A good faniction battle is not complete until it pulls all the threads of ATK, DEF, SPD, advanced strategy, and all that into something that has real meaning in the story.

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?
Not much at all; I have a habit of glossing over corporal matters, so much so that most of my fics wouldn't be much changed if all the characters were ghosts without bodies. There's the concept of assimilation heightening in Aftershock, which involves consuming the raw meat of pok&#233;mon as a VERY unrecommended drug and steroid, but even this eventually evolves into a simple injection.

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?
I was intending to make my magnum opus in that regard in Aftershock. The world would be backed by an advanced sort of 'coding' in a simpler plane of existence called the theoretic plane, and by making 'modules' in this coding one could develop technology that bypassed normal physics to get the effects of most of the Pok&#233;mon world's devices. (A bandage or antibiotic ointment uses matter to try and force a damaged body into healing; a Pok&#233;mon Restoration Machine firmly rooted in the theoretic plane repairs the pok&#233;mon's soul using direct thoughts and concepts, and in this universe by repairing the coding of the body the body becomes whole.) However, more important matters took over and I never really got down to a proper explanation, revealing a few scattered theories when they were really needed in the plotline.

How DO you come up with the various OCs in your fic, if any?
It probably has to do with the (possibly unhealthy) way I see Pok&#233;mon canon: not so much a universe to elaborate on and play around, as a medium for my writing. There are these institutions, which I can make the modus operandi of my characters; there are these physics and pok&#233;mon, which can represent themes of my own, but most all else I take as up to me. (Which might be irreverent to canon.) So first I think of an idea: a character going through these mental and emotional trials: and then I see how it might incarnate in the pok&#233;mon world. I've written about far too few canon characters than I'd like to, for that reason; most of my stories are either AU or in different times than the games/anim&#233;/manga.

bobandbill
22nd August 2009, 1:05 PM
Can't say I've seen any of the movies bar the first one, myself...

In the fic I'm planning, I'm excited to right about this one character: a Togepi. He's going to have a Gofather-like personality. Very Italian, very mafia. Very fun.That's sounds kinda awesome. And amusing. Especially as I too plan to write on Togepi. XD

Oh, and I urge all of you in this club to give SlowCrow a good poke. The deadline for him, you see, is now! (more or less)

*shouts gibberish at SlowCrow*

Griff4815
22nd August 2009, 3:17 PM
*pokes eliciting a "kaw -____-"*

Hehehee *claps*

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pokémon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?

I don't tend to go into too much information. Just something enough to seem logical.

Diddy
22nd August 2009, 4:56 PM
*pokes SlowCrow*

*jumps in plane*

*pokes Purple_Drake*

*jumps in plane*

*relaxes in easy chair*

Now all pokes have been administered I feel it oddly prudent to inform you all that I am in a very piratey mood today.

So Ya'harrr! to ye all!

starliteevee
22nd August 2009, 5:03 PM
*Pokes head in*
Um...may I come in? I guess I'll join this club, having an interest in writing fanfiction and giving the occasional review...

I don't know how to answer the topics, since I'm only working on my own fic right now. I have a strong idea and have already portrayed my characters clearly in my head, but my Microsoft Word is screwed up so I can't write there. I can get the beginning and end, I just need to make out the parts in the middle.

Sorry for my ramble...

Araleon
22nd August 2009, 5:42 PM
Can't say I've seen any of the movies bar the first one, myself...
That's sounds kinda awesome. And amusing. Especially as I too plan to write on Togepi. XD

Oh, and I urge all of you in this club to give SlowCrow a good poke. The deadline for him, you see, is now! (more or less)

*shouts gibberish at SlowCrow*

Thanks!

*pokes SlowCrow* Come on, you can do it...

SapphireRose
22nd August 2009, 5:56 PM
I'm baaaaaaaaack! Who missed me? -hears crickets- xD

So... many... questions!!!

What kind of experience do you go through when reading an older work of yours? Do you cringe, raise your eyebrows in your past wittiness, start rewriting the mistakes, etc? Is there any excitement or amusement that you find while doing so?

I took the liberty of deleting all past works of mine from my computer and I recycled the paper copies, so I cannot ever reread an older work. I have just saved my eyes.

When you wrote your first fic, how long did it take you to actually home in on what you really wanted to do with the plot/climax?

I believe I was twelve or so when I wrote Wonder, my first fic. I knew exactly what I wanted to write about (a self-insert traveling with the anime characters going to the Battle Frontier), but my execution needed a little a ton of work.

What type of scenes you would consider your weak point? Your strong point? Is there a scene you really want to pull off in the future?

Everything is my weak point. Um, I'd have to say my weak point isn't a scene, it's basically describing the scene in general. >< My strong point would be characters. I'd really like pulling off a death scene. >:]

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?

Erm. That's a good question or two. I've never written about food in the past. This will make me actually think about it during the writing process. Hopefully I'll get a few mentions in from now on. =]

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?

I'm planning on it, yes.

Whew. ._.

~blue

Diddy
22nd August 2009, 6:37 PM
*Pokes head in*
Um...may I come in? I guess I'll join this club, having an interest in writing fanfiction and giving the occasional review...

I don't know how to answer the topics, since I'm only working on my own fic right now. I have a strong idea and have already portrayed my characters clearly in my head, but my Microsoft Word is screwed up so I can't write there. I can get the beginning and end, I just need to make out the parts in the middle.

Sorry for my ramble...

Welcome aboard landlubber!

As for yer Word woes. I find OpenOffice be a good alternative, plus it's free and easily downloaded.

Now hand over yer valuables!

starliteevee
22nd August 2009, 7:31 PM
Now hand over yer valuables!
*Pulls out a tennis ball, an old candy wrapper, and a Pokemon Pinball game* Is this good enough?

How much focus does food get in your fics? Is it briefly passed over, melts into the background, or is it non-existent? Is there a scene in your fic that relies on food's presence in order to move the plot further?
For the main part, food is food, but because of the thing that happens to my character (the main plot of the story), she'll start eating meat raw. And in one chapter when she is with this guy, they eat Eevees. Yes, Eevees, my way of explaining how a Pokemon that can adapt to almost any environment is going extinct is because their meat and fur is so valuable they are being hunted. I describe in detail what the meat tastes like and how good it is.

Do you take a moment in your fic to propose your own explanation on how the Pok&#233;mon world's technology works? How is it done? Do you do it often? How much in detail do you go into it?
Well, my fic takes place a couple thousand years ago, so the technology isn't all that advanced. As in, there isn't any electricity.

Blackjack Gabbiani
23rd August 2009, 7:31 AM
Blackjack Gabbiani, barring questions of how much help I might be and taking for granted that I'll be active here on-and-off, I would be pleased to discuss Obsession with you. I don't believe in the principle behind spoilers (a good story is riveting even when you know all the major plot twists), so there. I've watched all the early movies, it's the 6+ ones that I no longer get the hang of.

Sweet. How can we reach each other?

bobandbill
23rd August 2009, 8:16 AM
^ You two probably should start discussing that via VMs or PMs or something now. =P Good you found help though.

And welcome, starliteevee. =)

*pokes SlowCrow again about his deadline which should be over by now, or nearly over*

SlowCrow
23rd August 2009, 9:59 PM
*shouts gibberish at SlowCrow*

*casually pokes eliciting a "kaw -____-"*

*pokes SlowCrow*

*pokes SlowCrow* Come on, you can do it...

*pokes SlowCrow again about his deadline which should be over by now, or nearly over*
Kaw, watch the fingers! I think one of those poked my eyes out! +_o

I'm sorry to say, but that rough draft was harder to start that I thought it would; there is a reason why I've been on a hiatus for over a year. The reason I thought was causing me to avoid writing any more of the fic was because the chapters I already wrote for Bug III were so badly done that I couldn't rewrite them so that they were any better.

But I realized something while mulling over the blank screen that was the rough draft of the rewritten prologue: the problem wasn't what I wrote or how I wrote it, it was why I was wrote it. When I originally started Bug III, it was initially a way to write one scene and see if I could make a fic out of it; which indeed worked, establishing elements and plot lines I could use to make a fic. When Dragonfree reviewed my fic, however, I initially thought that the quality of my fic was lacking due to several superficial errors (such as grammar, logic, and rampant clichés), so I just tried to improve on that. But when I eventually got to the next set of chapters to post for critique, I saw that the plot itself had trouble holding up, and I didn't know how I could rectify the problem. Since I was an inexperienced writer at the time (and still am), I pinned that inexperience as the problem. And by doing so, the fic's progress came to a halt, and I didn't touch it for over a year.

This brings me to the "why" that was so much of a problem before. As I already said, I started Bug III with only one particular scene in mind, and the first few chapters focused on reaching and embellishing that one scene. When I did so, I didn't realize that I didn't create a solid base plot to progress the fic, creating a mishmash of different ideas trying to get into the fic at once. Now, having a range of different ideas to put into a fic is not a bad thing, but not having a way to regulate, analyze, and consider what each idea brings to the table is. For example, in the previous two versions of the prologue, the guards were humans (wearing opague visors e_e) who were securing a government controlled underground complex in the first version, and they suddenly changed into robots who were doing the same thing in an unnamed complex for no good reason in the second. Both versions brought only two relevant details that would affect the later plot, both of them presented without much detail or buildup and would work better if they were introduced in the main story itself over period of time. That. Is. HORRIBLE. If the prologue has that much trouble contributing to the plot, then the main story is going to have more than a fair share of problems. And when a story involves a company that investigates disturbances in reality, Pokémon trying to (secretly) function in a real world setting, and the occasional bending of the laws of physics themselves, you have to take some caution. >_>

SO,

While I indeed failed to write up the prologue, I realized that I have to think about what purpose each and every chapter will have to serve in terms of plot or otherwise I'm going to write myself into a deep hole. Which, we can all agree, is more progress than writing a simple rough draft of a story I have not yet planned, no? @_@

Araleon
24th August 2009, 1:41 AM
Yup, I think that's better. Having a plan is always good. I'm in the midst of planning a fic. I'd like to have it out by Spetember 9 or 10, in order to make it before the plot of HG/SS is revelaed (including new characters). However, this is not me creating a deadline. Mostly because I'm swamped at school right now, and I'm still planning the villains for my fic.

I always spend forever trying to create the perfect team for each character...

Mimori Kiryu
24th August 2009, 4:37 AM
Blackjack Gabbiani: I'm saying this here because I'd be bumping your fanfiction too much, but the story you have about Jirarudan is amazing. It's kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time I've been reading it. You do a really good job getting into his head and I can hear lines from the second movie running through my head as I read it. (I've always had a weakness for the older movies. Honestly, I know the first two movies word for word. xP) If you ever need help write the story or finishing it, please let me know. I'd love to help; you created a fantastic world around Jirarudan and the people that help and hinder. :)

Bay
24th August 2009, 8:47 AM
I always spend forever trying to create the perfect team for each character...


Haha, me too. XD For some reason I'm always trying to think up of Pokemon that would suit my characters well and it would take me a while. I already changed my characters' roster for my planned fic a thousand times already. XD;

Speaking of which, this gives me a new idea for a topic:

How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?
Already answered this. :P

Janovy
24th August 2009, 8:54 AM
How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?
Looooong time! Seriously, I too need a long time for my main character to pick his Pokemon, I mean there are 493 (minus legendaries). I also have troubles with trainers picking their starters, although here are only 3.

Blackjack Gabbiani
24th August 2009, 11:24 AM
Blackjack Gabbiani: I'm saying this here because I'd be bumping your fanfiction too much, but the story you have about Jirarudan is amazing. It's kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time I've been reading it. You do a really good job getting into his head and I can hear lines from the second movie running through my head as I read it. (I've always had a weakness for the older movies. Honestly, I know the first two movies word for word. xP) If you ever need help write the story or finishing it, please let me know. I'd love to help; you created a fantastic world around Jirarudan and the people that help and hinder. :)

Aww yay! Thank you so much! I'll add you on aim since it's a lot more reliable than my Yahoo (Trillian doesn't load Yahoo about 85% of the time. It keeps telling me that the connection fails).

And heck, there's no such thing as too much review bumping.

Divinity_123
24th August 2009, 1:04 PM
Haven't been here in a while...

Is it too late to poke SlowCrow? D:

How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

I take quite a bit of time, but in the end, the pokemon that my characters eventually end up having doesn't really matter much to me (one of the characters in SP started out with three pokemon, which he stole from a lab--Magikarp, Oddish and Totodile). So the selection was pretty random (except for Totodile, I have soft spot for it:P). It's the personality/characteristics that the pokemon have that counts in my books, so it doesn't really matter to me.

Griff4815
24th August 2009, 1:53 PM
How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

I'm not sure... Sometimes I choose my favourites, sometimes I choose whatever makes sense at the time. I don't really base the pokemon, too much, on what suits the characters, because it's often fun having a character be paired with a pokemon who doesn't suit them! Like the arrogant jerk Kevin having a shy, quiet, easily terrified but loving Squirtle, Ace.

FlamingRuby
24th August 2009, 1:59 PM
Most of the time, I go with the ones I like. Other times, I think of one to suit the character. (although I will agree that pairing opposites is fun)

Ysavvryl
24th August 2009, 4:22 PM
How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

Sometimes it is random. I often write actions, sometimes dialogue, for wild Pokemon. Every so often, one of them will jump out at me as good potential to bring along. Other times, I know what the Trainer will have right at the start because that Pokemon would fit that human best. And then you have the Pokemon character that, while in second draft, suddenly seems like it would be better as another species. I have a Milotic that's looking to become something else because she isn't working right now...

I'm not so concerned about having a perfect team in gameplay terms; reasonable will suit me just fine if the character interplay is perfect.


Also, random inspiration idea for those of you who may be stuck! Write a scene of a cookout/barbeque being prepared or attended by some Gym Leaders and their Pokemon.

Diddy
24th August 2009, 6:57 PM
How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

I like to pair people up with pokemon that suit them... most of the time.

Sometimes I get a pokemon in my head that I just think is awesome and I have to write them in, in that case I try to give them a good personality. An example of both being one of my OC's who is a gothish type character, I'm going to give her a Misdreavus. And the other OC is going to have a nincada, which doesn't suit yet I have a really good plan for it :P


Also, random inspiration idea for those of you who may be stuck! Write a scene of a cookout/barbeque being prepared or attended by some Gym Leaders and their Pokemon.

That is amazing, I'm going to write something up right away :P

expect... well, let me just say there won't be many archaic gunpowder powered pirate ship weapons around during this barbeque.

Blackjack Gabbiani
24th August 2009, 9:29 PM
The only person I wrote for where I put a lot of thought into their pokemon was an AU Domino for a roleplay (clearly AU given that she's not a trainer in canon). She had an Oddish with PTSD (it'd been assaulted by a snake) and had to maximize its potential while still being able to use it for evil, a hyperactive Persian, a Lanturn with an attitude problem, a Metang who was obsessed with training, a Murkrow that liked to Confuse Ray everything, and a very shy Nidoran. So clearly she had her work cut out for her.

Although I did something with Buson's Muk (you know, the pokemon everyone forgets he has) and ah...gave it roughly the personality of Eric Cartman. Tell me you don't look at Muk and hear "Screwwwwww you guyyyyys!"

Most of the characters I write for don't tend to think about their pokemon very much other than training purposes. I guess that's what I get for focusing on the bad guys (although that'd change if I wrote about the Hoenn teams given that they seemed to treat pokemon better than people. Or Harley, who we KNOW does that).

Araleon
24th August 2009, 11:16 PM
Haha, me too. XD For some reason I'm always trying to think up of Pokemon that would suit my characters well and it would take me a while. I already changed my characters' roster for my planned fic a thousand times already. XD;

Speaking of which, this gives me a new idea for a topic:

How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?
Already answered this. :P

Glad I'm not the only one. :)

And now, to elaborate and answer the question!

How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

Dude, I spend forever. It's one of the first things I do. I treat the Pokemon as important characters, so it's important for me to create the best possible teamf or them. At least in my mind.

So, I have the three teams for my Johto fic, and i really like them I tend to use Pokemon I like and Pokemon I think suits the character. And I always stick to native Pokemon, or Pokemon related to a native Pokemon.

For example, in the Johto fic each character has five Johto Pokemon and a fourth generation Johto Pokemon evolution. I do this because its how I play the games. In Johto, why not let the Johto Pokemon shine?

Like I said, I have their teams planned, but recently switched one team to a better team.

For my contest one-shot, I thought about Pokemon that would work in the Kimono theater. One Pokemon on each team was obvious. Next, I thought of a Pokemon whose style would fit the character. This one would be fully evolved. Then, I gave them a baby (Not a baby Pokemon, but a young Pokemon). In the case of Kuni, I gave her an additional Pokemon since she was the eldest of the three sisters.

Then I gave them awesome personalities...

starliteevee
25th August 2009, 1:54 AM
How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

I immediatly chose the two Pokemon for my character, but I was able to work out their own individual personalities. It doesn't take me too long, but as I plan the story on more, I realize the more I make them change and mature from what they were at the beginning of the story.

I chose those specific Pokemon since my main character is vicious with a love for voilence and a thirst for blood, which becomes worse when she gets cursed. Much, much worse.

Mimori Kiryu
25th August 2009, 2:53 AM
Aww yay! Thank you so much! I'll add you on aim since it's a lot more reliable than my Yahoo (Trillian doesn't load Yahoo about 85% of the time. It keeps telling me that the connection fails).

And heck, there's no such thing as too much review bumping.I just didn't want to get your thread closed since the last time someone reviewed was in February. xD

I don't use my AIM that often so send me a PM if I happen to be online and I'll sign on with AIM. (I use MSN the most. ;D)


...and I think I have a deadline I'd like listed. Maybe with other people knowing about my deadline, I might get something done. It's a secret project I'd like to post here pretty soon. I've been working on it for some time and I'm adding on the final tweaks. Could I have a deadline set up for...September 1st? Thanks. ;D

Mrs. Lovett
25th August 2009, 3:03 AM
How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?
I choose my character's Pokemon at random, but I do try to balance my teams out well. Once I'm getting used to that particular team, I write and start giving the Pokemon distinct personalities. Some Pokemon might like the trainer, others might not. I tend to give my character a mix of common pokemon and rare pokemon. Overall though, I don't think I give the teams a lot of thought. My stories, even tough they're set in a Pokemon world, concentrate more on the people and less on the Pokemon. I think I need to work on that :P

purple_drake
25th August 2009, 4:18 AM
How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

Well, it depends. When I first started, with Keegan, I mostly picked pokemon I liked. At the same time I went through the pokedex and picked out pokemon I thought suited her, paying attention to ones which might've been unexpected for her character (eg, picking a 'masculine', boy-ish pokemon for a teenage girl). Later, the OU/UU argument got to me and I tweaked her team to make more sense in terms of pokemon demography. Still later, I weaked her team again due to plot reasons. For Tynan, I went a similar route. As far as an as-yet unmet OC is concerned, he's a doctor, so I looked at pokemon I thought would be useful in terms of helping out with medical issues.

Nowadays, most of the characters I write about already have preset teams. Those that don't are either throwaways (like a Rocket grunt) in which case I just randomly choose a pokemon the Rockets had in the game, or they're a minor OC and I ... still pick a pokemon randomly (although if they're something like a ninja or a dragon tamer obviously there's limitations). Mostly I take the same stance as when I'm making an OC--I think about the circumstances and whether I need the pokemon to do something specific. Otherwise, I just go with my gut and pick what 'feels' right.



Also, random inspiration idea for those of you who may be stuck! Write a scene of a cookout/barbeque being prepared or attended by some Gym Leaders and their Pokemon.

I'm not sure whether I hate you or love you. Either way, I'm doing it. Even though I'm not 'stuck' per se. And don't need more things to write. *cough*

Do we have a word count, and do we post it in here for people to see, or does it count as a full fic?

bobandbill
25th August 2009, 4:49 AM
Aww, pity about not beating your deadline, SlowCrow, but at least you did figure stuff out plot-wise and all, it seems, so progress made nonetheless.

Updated your deadline, Mimori Kiryu - that's already nearby, so get working! Same for purple_drake. (Incidentally... do you think there should be a record kept of past deadlines attempted in the 1st post, or just go without?).



Also, random inspiration idea for those of you who may be stuck! Write a scene of a cookout/barbeque being prepared or attended by some Gym Leaders and their Pokemon.
Welcome to the first writing challenge. =) Added to the 1st post...

I'm not sure whether I hate you or love you. Either way, I'm doing it. Even though I'm not 'stuck' per se. And don't need more things to write. *cough*

Do we have a word count, and do we post it in here for people to see, or does it count as a full fic? Don't think a word count is necessarily... necessary although, say 1,000-1,500 words or thereabouts? But as Ysavvryl came up with it, her call. And you can always go over too, really - make it as long or as short as you like, is what I'm inclined to say. Posting here is probably the best place as well, unless in the off-chance you make a whole fic out of it and post in the fanfiction section - your call, IMO (in which case, link to there please). Time wise... a week, I'd say (or two?). But that doesn't have to be strict either, so do whenever around that.

May the unofficial random writing challenge commence!

...I'd write something, maybe, if I still didn't have tests. >_<

How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

Hmm. Sometimes I do take a bit of time, but usually I just go with something with my main fic (helps that canonically in Colosseum the choice is kinda limited in that regard, I suppose), while some of them just picked themselves straight away for one reason or another.

Might take me longer in deciding what that Pokemon may be like, however, although with that I tend to base it off the Pokemon itself. I tend to go more into thinking about the Pokemon's personality rather than how well they fit the trainer (given the majority tend to be snagged rather than caught anyways), which helps have some... conflict, so to speak.

Is it too late to poke SlowCrow? D:It's never too late. =P But now it's time to poke two others instead. >:]

Diddy
25th August 2009, 10:40 AM
*pokes Mimori Kiryu*

xD

Anyway, the barbecue thing I'm writing seems to have exploded as more characters have been introduced and as more storylines and plots have been developed.

Yes, so much to do in one little area. But when that area contains Blaine's super barbecue... anything can happen.

It's going to be a full fic, so I'd post it in the main section and link to it here. It's also a vague attempt at comedy drama, so er... yeah.

Ysavvryl
25th August 2009, 5:00 PM
Hehe, the cookout thing is just one of those random things. And I saw a few people who said they felt stuck. I generally work around writer's block by writing on random ideas, like that one. So, no real word count, although 1000 is always a nice one to reach.

Actually, there is a story behind it! In my one-shots thread, I take special requests for holidays and I had one for Memorial Day to do something with Lt. Surge, an Electrivire, an Electrode, and a Pikachu. My first idea was the barbeque, because lots of people do barbeques for Memorial Day. That wound up going off subject concerning the Pokemon, so I pitched it into my idea file.

I might go back and make a full version of that scene now.

Mimori Kiryu... the deadline approaches.

LightingKimba
26th August 2009, 3:00 AM
... Waiit. I missed a pokin' party, all while I was busy with schoolwork? It's only the second day back, and ALREADY I'm missin' awesome from SPPf? This is madness! I demand satisfaction!

In other news: How long you think about your characters' Pokemon team? You go by how well they would fit/not fit with the character or random?

Usually, some of the characters have a motif for the pokémon I give them (Jun and Karina, for example, have pokémon with a high Attack stat and a high Speed stat, respectively), others usually get pokémon when the plot demands it (This is true for William especially, considering how all of his pokémon are pretty much as random as random gets). Really, each trainer has a pokémon set that shows off their personality, no matter how strange the Trainer-Pokémon is (Again, in William's case, he already has two pokémon that seem to be infatuated with him, then we have Jun's hate on his rather Jolly pokémon...).

... Why do I feel I'm one of those people who ALWAYS wings the stuff in a fic that normally, people give a bit of thought on? Gawrsh, it's so weird having that feeling...

Blackjack Gabbiani
26th August 2009, 3:29 AM
... Why do I feel I'm one of those people who ALWAYS wings the stuff in a fic that normally, people give a bit of thought on? Gawrsh, it's so weird having that feeling...

Well, I came up with most of the stuff about Veronica right before writing chapter 19, and one thing as I wrote the line she references it in. We'll find out more in chapter 20...if, you know, I ever actually write it.

LightingKimba
27th August 2009, 2:11 AM
Hmm... Do you guys mind if I try to throw another strange topic out, de arimasu?

So one day, you're chillin' out, doin' your usual thing on a weekend. You hear a knock on the door, and you answer it, thinking it's one of your friends. Instead, your "friend" is really a big time movie director, and he actually believes your fanfic would make a great movie. Would take the deal, and allow said director to create a theatrical masterpiece?

Will answer later. Oh, and the director's skills are around the par of the "average joe", or uh... Harry Potter/VIZ dubbing good.

FlamingRuby
27th August 2009, 3:15 AM
Assuming said director knew what s/he was doing and at least gave me a tiny say in the process, I'd do it

Griff4815
27th August 2009, 3:36 AM
So one day, you're chillin' out, doin' your usual thing on a weekend. You hear a knock on the door, and you answer it, thinking it's one of your friends. Instead, your "friend" is really a big time movie director, and he actually believes your fanfic would make a great movie. Would take the deal, and allow said director to create a theatrical masterpiece?

As long as I was creditted and had a good amount of creative control over it. Royalties would be a nice bonus.

SapphireRose
27th August 2009, 3:37 AM
So one day, you're chillin' out, doin' your usual thing on a weekend. You hear a knock on the door, and you answer it, thinking it's one of your friends. Instead, your "friend" is really a big time movie director, and he actually believes your fanfic would make a great movie. Would take the deal, and allow said director to create a theatrical masterpiece?

Assuming I actually have a fanfiction written at that time, yes, I would go with it. Why not? You only live once. ;)

~blue

Bay
27th August 2009, 5:21 AM
So one day, you're chillin' out, doin' your usual thing on a weekend. You hear a knock on the door, and you answer it, thinking it's one of your friends. Instead, your "friend" is really a big time movie director, and he actually believes your fanfic would make a great movie. Would take the deal, and allow said director to create a theatrical masterpiece?

Definitely not Ron Howard. Considering NE is based off Da Vinci, and Howard messed it up a bit...XD;

Other than that, same boat as Griff. As long as the director let me know of the changes and gets the OK from me, then that's fine. Not sure how well they'll portray Jacob's change in personality and a few of the suspense scenes. XD

Divinity_123
27th August 2009, 12:41 PM
So one day, you're chillin' out, doin' your usual thing on a weekend. You hear a knock on the door, and you answer it, thinking it's one of your friends. Instead, your "friend" is really a big time movie director, and he actually believes your fanfic would make a great movie. Would take the deal, and allow said director to create a theatrical masterpiece?
I'd take the deal and ruuuuuuuuun faaaaaaaaaar away. Of course, as long as that said deal involves lots of 0s ;)

Diddy
27th August 2009, 7:09 PM
So one day, you're chillin' out, doin' your usual thing on a weekend. You hear a knock on the door, and you answer it, thinking it's one of your friends. Instead, your "friend" is really a big time movie director, and he actually believes your fanfic would make a great movie. Would take the deal, and allow said director to create a theatrical masterpiece?

Only if I got a massive say in artistic direction.

I'd prefer it to be a graphic novel to be completely honest. Serial has that feel a lot more than a movie ever would. Plus, there's the fact there are no humans in Serial.

If it was a film though, I'd want Jackie Earle Haley (who played Rorschach in Watchmen) as the voice of the main character.

Mrs. Lovett
29th August 2009, 3:07 AM
So one day, you're chillin' out, doin' your usual thing on a weekend. You hear a knock on the door, and you answer it, thinking it's one of your friends. Instead, your "friend" is really a big time movie director, and he actually believes your fanfic would make a great movie. Would take the deal, and allow said director to create a theatrical masterpiece?
Of course! Actually, some parts of the fic I'm working on would look better in a movie. But I would only accept it if the director would let me be completely in charge of choosing actors and the special effects.

Also, may I request a deadline?

Deeds of Darkness, the rewrite - prologue will be posted on November 13th, 2009.

Dilasc
29th August 2009, 3:12 AM
So one day, you're chillin' out, doin' your usual thing on a weekend. You hear a knock on the door, and you answer it, thinking it's one of your friends. Instead, your "friend" is really a big time movie director, and he actually believes your fanfic would make a great movie. Would take the deal, and allow said director to create a theatrical masterpiece?

I'd go sniffing in the medicine cabinent... then I'd return with a self defense weapon. Holy cow, some guy is trying to rob me! On a more serious note, I doubt I'd ever think any 'friends' would arrive uninvited, I keep on top of these things.

purple_drake
29th August 2009, 4:15 AM
(Incidentally... do you think there should be a record kept of past deadlines attempted in the 1st post, or just go without?).

I'd say 'yes', offhand. I mean, for the people who made their deadlines it'd be a source of pride to have proof they did make it and could make it again if they needed to, and for those that didn't it would be an encouragement to work a little harder. I'd recommend only striking out the ones that don't get met, though, instead of labelling them 'failed' ... just as a morale thing, y'know?

*is poked*


You get offered a deal for your fanfic to be made into a movie. Would you take it or leave it?

/Same question as everyone else, just shortened.

Depends on the contract. If they're going to shut me out of the creative process, then I'd rather it stayed in text form than get mutilated. If they let me advise and have final says in what gets cut and what doesn't or whatever, sure.

I'm gonna be a trial for anyone who wants to make films out of my stories. X3

Bay
29th August 2009, 6:13 PM
Um...is it all right I poke both purple_drake and Mimori Kiryu because their deadlines are approaching? :x

*pokes both of them then runs*

Mimori Kiryu
29th August 2009, 6:16 PM
^lol, *is poked*


You get offered a deal for your fanfic to be made into a movie. Would you take it or leave it?

Probably not. ^^; I wrote my story to stay a story in book form. I mean, if I had complete control about what they had in the movie, the actors and everything, then yeah, maybe.

Araleon
29th August 2009, 10:01 PM
You get offered a deal for your fanfic to be made into a movie. Would you take it or leave it?

If my fanfic was offered to be made into a movie? Well, I dunno. It would depend. I don't think I'd take the offer. I might. but who knows.

Ha, could I be any more ambiguous?

bobandbill
30th August 2009, 4:59 AM
You get offered a deal for your fanfic to be made into a movie. Would you take it or leave it?

Ho hum, interesting... might depend if I get paid a nice amount of money... and maybe some control over how it's presented - I wouldn't like it to be killed, so to speak. =/

But that also ignore any sort of copyright infringement that would arise. XD

Anyway, here's my poke for purple_drake and Mimori Kiryu! *pokes away*

Oh, and I'm going to go and impose a deadline on myself, actually... exams are over, so for a bit I have something rare called spare time. Methinks a deadline for myself to write and release another chapter of my fic by the 20th of September should be plenty (after all, I still have school and the such...).

Diddy
31st August 2009, 8:00 PM
*delivers pokes to all who need them*

My writing challenge thingy is coming along nicely, If I keep up the pace then I should have it finished soon.

And seeing as this place hasn't been active for a while, I propose a new question...

Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

In chaptered fics, I can tell you it gets hard when you hit a barrier that takes a while to overcome. But it's worse for me because I can't write future sections due to the ever changing nature of my writing.

I have plans for future sections, lots of em, but I can't write them because I really like to unfold the story out in front of me rather than skipping to different sections.

FlamingRuby
31st August 2009, 9:47 PM
Semilinear--if I have future idea begging to be written, I'll go ahead and write it down, but not release it until its turn comes

SapphireRose
31st August 2009, 10:14 PM
Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

I usually have to go in order of the events. Prologues are always written first, followed by the chapters, in order. If I were to write in sections, I don't think it would be as smooth a story as I would like it. Of course, I've never tried writing bits of a fic at a time...

~blue

Umbreon Ruler
31st August 2009, 10:58 PM
You get offered a deal for your fanfic to be made into a movie. Would you take it or leave it?

Hm... I think I would probably take it. I mean, who honestly wouldn't want their little fan fic put on the big screen? If I had my way, though, I'd want a lot of creative control in the writing, so it's still feels like my work.

Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

I prefer to write straight through the chapter/fic in order, but there have been times when I get stuck at a certain point and instead of wasting time plowing through that, I might write the end or a later part of the chapter and go back later.

ArmorAndonomon
31st August 2009, 11:07 PM
Oh my God, we had a FanFiction Club at school. xD I was the president, haha. :X

As a fellow reader and writer of fan-written fiction, I'd love to join. : D

solovino
31st August 2009, 11:43 PM
My my a Fan Fiction club.

I wrote a lot of technical stuff, but I have taken the time during the last year to try my... "literary vein". So far I have liked it a lot (and, besides, the plot bunnies are already out of their seal can in my head...). I would like to join this club.

Bay
1st September 2009, 12:57 AM
Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?
I prefer to write in order so that the story doesn't go through a dozen directions. However, NE I would get stuck at certain scenes, so I would write some scenes ahead and then go back to the scene I got stuck.

For NE's prequel, I'm actually doing something different. Because the scenes are more/less so vignettes, I write the parts that I feel like writing at the moment. Also that way I get new ideas on what I want to put in the prequel.

Divinity_123
1st September 2009, 1:17 AM
Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?
Never. The linear 'approach' doesn't work with me because planning an the ending to a scene/chapter is easier than beginning one.

I just find it waaaay easier to envision an 'ending' rather than a 'beginning'.

/terrible idea.

FlamingRuby
1st September 2009, 1:48 AM
If I may introduce a question to the floor:

Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

By this, I mean you got an idea, and everything else about the chapter/episode just fell into place around that idea

SapphireRose
1st September 2009, 1:58 AM
Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

Uuuuuuuuuuuuum, no. Writing's never been that easy to me. xD

When I write, I have to literally write and think stuff out and then type. I must fix and edit like crazy later, and it's a real chore for me. But I love doing it, so that's why I continue. The whole process is totally worth it for me.

~blue

purple_drake
1st September 2009, 3:28 AM
So apparently I still totally suck at sticking to deadlines. I did get a lot done, mind you, just not enough. Next time I submit a deadline I fully encourage you all to VM me every two days or something. Seriously.


Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

Linear, mostly. If I have a future scene unroll and I'm in a position to write it down, I generally try to do so, but it's usually just a rough. I can't write things out of sequence, partly because I just can't, and partly because I know that the process of writing everything before it will, necessarily, change the things to come after. That and, because I generally know the ending the best, I prefer to get the harder stuff out of the way 'cos the end will come easier? Don't ask me how that logic works. XD


Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

With terrifying frequency. I have whole chaptered stories which do that to me; my most recent chaptered fic idea, for one, which I'm maybe halfway already. Often in the space of a day I have an entire story just in my head, often with a sequel spawned along the way. I guess I've just spent so much time thinking and daydreaming that now my mind has trained itself to just ... let go and follow those thoughts through, unstoppably so. It's the main reason why I have so much to write--and so much trouble picking what to write, because unlike most my problem isn't a lack of ideas, it's the over-production of them. Either I need to learn to write the stuff I've got faster (especially the plotlines, because if I don't get them down while I'm in the rush of the idea I won't have any energy for it later), or I need to sterilise my plotbunnies. Or wrestle my imagination under control.

If only the actual writing of the idea was as easy, I wouldn't have a problem. ._.

ArmorAndonomon
1st September 2009, 3:32 AM
Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

It depends on the story. xD If I'm extremely comfortable with it and have it planned out, I'll write chapters that I want to get done first, then go back and do the better ones. However, I end up rewriting most of the chapters, no matter WHEN I write them...haha.

Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

Once in awhile. As I said with the previous question, if I'm comfortable with it, I'll just go for it. I've sat in class before and just wrote and the chapter sounded wonderful. Then I went back and read it and thought I was smoking something horrible.

Griff4815
1st September 2009, 4:28 AM
Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

Linear/seat of my pants is fine. My motto is "why plan for the future when so many things can change in the present?"

Blackjack Gabbiani
1st September 2009, 5:19 AM
Linear approach--Very yes. I can't skip around.

Fics writing themselves--Oh yeah. Chief among them would probably be when I wrote Stupid, which pretty much came after I realized "Hmm. I've never killed off Buson in a fic..." and that this had to be remedied.
Because if I like a character, they may as well have a target on 'em that says "Please Kill Me". Indiscriminate slaughter is fun.

PokemonHero
1st September 2009, 12:21 PM
Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

I prefer a combination of both. Often times, I plan out the storyline in a notebook. However, I also go ahead a write scenes many chapters in advance as well, plugging them in where needed.

bobandbill
1st September 2009, 2:54 PM
Welcome, Armorandonomon and solovino!

And pity about not completing the deadline, purple_drake, but at least you got progress done of some sort, which is far better than nothing. May you complete it soon then. =) I should be harsher with my pokes.

Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

I usually prefer a linear approach - it tends to work, but if I get stuck I have no problems jumping ahead to another section and then working around and up to it. It came quite useful for me at least once, and I had little problems with it as well, so I'm fine with it - but I do usually stick to a linear approach anyway... just because. =P

Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

Maybe not entire chapters, but I have had scenes which have just written themselves, whether if it's in my head and then have smoothly transferred onto paper/document-form, or I just made something up on the spot while writing and it spurts out. That tends to happen when I have idea spasms. XD

A one-shot I did did write itself though.... one night I just had the idea for it, and the next day I wrote the whole thing. After a sleepless night because the story just wouldn't leave me alone. XD

Mimori Kiryu
1st September 2009, 4:12 PM
So...I achieved my deadline! ^^; I was able to complete a preview, Chapter One and Chapter Two of my 'secret project'! I was surprised I would be able to with college and work taking up most of my life, but I did it! :] If you're interested in reading my secret project *points to signature*.

Anywho, topics!


Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

I try to stay linear; it's hard for me to write the beginning and then turn around and ignore it as I write the beginning. xD It's like trying to watch a movie or a TV show backwards and I can't do that.

Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

With my new story, I can finally say yes. Chapter Two was just something I was typing in the middle of my Film Class without even looking at the screen/keyboard. xD I was thinking it and out it came.

As for other fanfiction or original fiction, not so much. I really have to think there. xP

Ysavvryl
1st September 2009, 4:27 PM
Didn't actually write my own challenge, heh. I've got other stories that are being more insistent about being finished.


Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

I write linearly in a non-linear fashion! What I mean is, most of the time I'll write from the beginning and go until I hit a point of 'I know what needs to happen, but not how to make it happen'. I then stick some meaningful jibberish at that point and write something like 'he watches several Pokemon and decides to catch one, but fails at doing so'. Then I carry on. Later, I'll go back looking for the jibberish for parts to edit/fix.

And then sometimes I have one late-occuring scene, usually a plot twist, that I write out fully first, so I can spread foreshadowing easier.


Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

Many many times, I have had a story or a character possess me. It helps to be overimaginative while overcaffinated too late at night. Although you wind up having to make lots of edits after that kind of writing session.

Divinity_123
1st September 2009, 4:30 PM
Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?
Yes.

I turned on my computer this morning and was surprised to see a chapter of Breakingthe4thWall finished! I swear, it wrote itself! or maybe i was just really drunk and forgot that i had written it at 3 in the morning :D

Mrs. Lovett
1st September 2009, 10:54 PM
Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?
Yes, but only once. It was waaay back in the first version of my fic, when I was doing the very first chapter. I did zero planning, and just ran through with it. Of course, I did some proofreading at the end and made sure it was acceptable before posting.

LightingKimba
1st September 2009, 11:28 PM
Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?
Happens often when I get annoyed to no end with one lesson I'm winging it on... Until it comes to me that if I throw a lesson LaLD! in a different perspective, it'll work so well. An example would be the 43rd chapter, where literally, I couldn't continue the story in the main character's perspective, so rather, I tried making it in the view of some other secondary characters, and it seemed to go on on its own, in the way it wanted itself to be typed.

Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?
It's hard to say a straight answer to either path, since I often do both. A good majority of the lessons often are winged at the last minute on a Friday night (So I have bad sleeping habits, sue me ;p), and some I actually do little by little during the week.

Bay
2nd September 2009, 5:32 AM
Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?
Chapter 16 of NE. It was actually an added chapter after getting loads of inspiration, so the actions and the writing style just came naturally. XD

Umbreon Ruler
4th September 2009, 2:42 AM
Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?

A few. Usually the ones that I could take out of the story without affecting the plot. Fillers, in other words. They're such a good chance to stretch the imagination.

*stares sadly at MS icon*

I should probably get to work on something. ;.;

Void of Hearts
4th September 2009, 6:54 AM
Before I apply to join this club I've got a few questions in my mind.

If I've read the first post correctly, then we don't need to have written a fanfiction before to join, and if so are these challenges of writing one-shot fanfictions/reviews a necessity? Because I was mostly hoping to join this club so that people could suggest to me some neat fanfictions to read.

Blackjack Gabbiani
4th September 2009, 8:07 AM
Well, what do you like to read?

Void of Hearts
4th September 2009, 8:16 AM
Any sort of Pokemon fanfiction, really. As long as there is more Pokemon-Human interaction in it, stories where Pokemon have more character than in the game/anime, it saddens me to read Trainer-fics where the Pokemon there are only caught, trained and used to battle with, no time for breaks to spend time with them or learn more about them.

Praxiteles
4th September 2009, 1:25 PM
Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?
I used to be linear in my writing, but that was when I still used conventional modes of storytelling. Now, in some cases when my writing is primarily a method of discovery (finding out the grand stirring of some fictional dreamer, for example, and learning what this means in my own world through the writing itself), I figure out one phase of the story first and then learn how to fit it into the greater whole, or decide at some point that one arrangement of parts is better than the rest; and in other cases when I'm trying to write more integrated fictions I write the key points first (the beginning, the conclusion, then important events in more particular portions of the story, and so on) and elaborate as I'm sure I won't depart from the point of the story. Such a non-linear style, I think, is more reverent to the point of the story which would be otherwise perverted and diluted by an unfixed style of writing.

Have you ever had a chapter/episode that just wrote itself?
Currently I am well off enough that all my writing works more or less write themselves; the trade-off is that they are always rather short and mysterious. I suppose this is what happens when I let the effects of more perfect influences and systems do most of my writing for me (leaving me just to type the ideas into a document).

I have a new topic that interests me not a little:

About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)
Very little, strangely enough. Even in the days of Aftershock my record for longest chapter was twelve pages done, perhaps, two pages maximum in a sitting. Nowadays I set down to making something brief and meaningful, spend a disproportionate amount of creative stamina for the actual work done, and produce at the most one and a half pages. (All of this in Times New Roman, 12 pt., as usual.) My last bit of poetry was six stanzas (eight lines per stanza, seven syllables per line) and left me feeling a though I had completed an epic by the end. *shrugs*

FlamingRuby
4th September 2009, 4:01 PM
I can usually do 3-4 pages per episode, but depending on how much I'm enjoying myself and whether or not I'm writing in script or story, I can easily do more

bobandbill
5th September 2009, 3:54 PM
Hello there, Void of Hearts. The writing challenges aren't compulsory, but they're there if you want to write something for the heck of it and all. As for fics.. maybe try the Fic/Author index int he Fanfic Lounge section - you should be able to browse through a heap of stuff there which is summarised/categorised.

About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)

It really depends. Once or twice I've gotten onto a roll and wrote near half the chapter just like that, but it's usually less than that. Sometimes it's just a couple of lines, really. XD My chapters tend to be...in the teens, on average, but I'm not that consistent with them at times. (My longest was 30 pages, although that was kinda two chapters in one, with it being split into parts).

Araleon
5th September 2009, 4:05 PM
Oh boy, this topic...

About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)

Haha, so, funny story. You know that HGSS One-shot Contest? I wrote most of my entry in a two/three day span.

My family was driving to see some relatives, so there was a seven hour drive ahead of. I had no homework besides a summer packet, and my Dad's laptop was able to be plugged intot he car to get a charge, unlike mine.

So for that car trip I wrote from page 2-20. But I didn't stop writing until we went to grab some food, and once we got back I went back to writing.

I finished the one-shot the next day, thankfully, and it was submitted.

But, yeah, 34 pages in three day of writing (two of them were consecutive, one a couple weeks before that). Next time, I'm going to not wait until the last miute. -_;

Bay
5th September 2009, 7:19 PM
About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)
When I was writing the original version of NE in the summer of 2006, I was able to actually finish a chapter in one to two. XD In the summer of 2007 though, the new version of NE I was able to finish a chapter in two to three days, but that's still a lot of writing. :P During school, it would take me a few days to finish editing a chapter due to being busy and such. How fast I can write a chapter depends on my mood, if I get stuck on something, and the time. This summer I have a bit of time do writing, but haven't done much because I wasn't in the mood to write ever since I finished NE. ._.

Diddy
5th September 2009, 10:20 PM
About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)

Depends what I'm writing.

My last one-shot (and it's related one-shots) rarely take many sittings. This one lasted two few hour 11pm-1am sittings. They seem to be the only things I can sit down on for an extended period of time and continuously write.

As for the majority of my other works, writing challenge included, require a certain level of commitment to sit down and start typing. I would have liked to be far further typing my chaptered fic than I am at this point (half way through chapter seven after starting many moons ago).

I try to set myself a challenge when I start writing, 'get to this point' or 'at least write a page' etc. Then I usually stop writing, nullifying the point of challenge setting and it takes a while to get back into it.

tatewaki2000
6th September 2009, 1:40 AM
Ooooh, a fanfiction club. Can I join? I've dabbled in some fanfics, and I love reading them.

"Hi."

-sincerely,
a random person

solovino
6th September 2009, 1:46 AM
Thanks for the welcome people.

About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)

It heavily depends on two factors: my mood, and my access to supplementary material. In a good (very good) mood with access to relevant information about the canon I'm writing (eg.: Bulbapedia Serebii :D Pokédex if I'm writing Pokémon), I can do two or three pages in one sitting; in an exceptional case I did ten. Then I *had* to go to the bathroom...

Under oppossite conditions I can barely reach ten lines per sitting... *ducks in a corner*


Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?
I write whatever feels "alive" at the time I sit. For that purpose I keep always two (at least) files per fic: a master and a collection of snippets. There have been cases where I've wrote the entirely of a chapter backwards, for example, but these are the rarest cases.

bobandbill
6th September 2009, 2:45 AM
Hellot there, tatewaki2000, and welcome to the club. =)

Under oppossite conditions I can barely reach ten lines per sitting... *ducks in a corner*Yep, these tend to be my usual conditions. XD

tatewaki2000
6th September 2009, 3:09 AM
Hiya bobandbill! Nice meeting you to.

I guess I'll contribute to the topic then... =_=


About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)


Hmm.. I don't really have a quota, but if I could finish a chapter (5-6pages) that would be nice. lol.

Usually, I finish an entire chapter in one sitting, but takes me 2-3 weeks to to get into the 'mood' to write.

And (from experience) don't type a romance when you're feeling angsty. You usually type up stuff that makes you go... WHAT-THE! :o

Do you prefer to take a linear approach to your writing or do you prefer to write what sections you feel at the time?

I actually write my fics chapter by chapter, with no clear plotline. Sure, I have a vague idea, but the story really writes itself... unfortunately that's a PAIN when you find out you're missing stuff and have to insert flashbacks and junks. T.T

I am no fan of flashbacks, but I somehow am forced to write them in, just so the readers don't get confused. Ugh... planning is very important in the long run, but (to me) that kills the chance to get new ideas I've never thought about.

Bottom line: I prefer linear, with bits of foreshadowing. It's simple, and clean.

Mrs. Lovett
6th September 2009, 3:33 PM
About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)
It really depends how much inspiration I have. Some days I've written only a couple of lines, and on others, entire chapters. But on normal conditions, I hover at a page and a half. When I'm stuck, I just browse the Web until I either decide to get back to work, or completely forget about writing :P

tatewaki2000
7th September 2009, 5:57 AM
Mrs. Lovett what an insightful response. :P

I'm glad I'm not the only one who forgets about writing. XD
Hurray for distractions. ^^ Seriously.

Praxiteles
7th September 2009, 2:21 PM
*joins the club* I mean the forgetting-about-writing club.

I can be in the most marvellous of new artistic moods, opening vistas to new worlds of thought and writing, when suddenly TV Tropes or something catches my eye, and I don't remember I have a groundbreaking new document open until hours later.

FlamingRuby
7th September 2009, 3:36 PM
Hey guys...I've been mulling a new idea:

We all know that the plot of the MD series involves a human becoming a Pokemon...but what if we applied the plot the other way--a Pokemon that finds out s/he's really human (or wants to become human)? Would it work?

Ysavvryl
7th September 2009, 5:18 PM
Pokemon turning into a human might work out. There is a lot of different potential stories in that idea. A Kadabra turning into a human would not be the same as a Magneton turning into a human. And you have to figure out if they retain powers and weaknesses, or if they're just a normal human.

I tried to think of a fairy tale parallel, but the main ones I can think of (The Frog Prince, another about geese, a different one about swans) are all 'human turned into animal who then has to be turned back into human'.

FlamingRuby
7th September 2009, 5:34 PM
I'm debating having the Pokemon in question be a Charmander, a Squirtle, a Pikachu, or a Beautifly--and they don't retain their Poke-powers once human.

tatewaki2000
7th September 2009, 5:55 PM
Hmmm. The idea that a Pokemon is really a human, sounds like a great idea. :P I just hope they don't end up gaining a Pokemon appearance. =_= Like a blue bald head when they revert back. Guh. -shivers- Or green little vines...ACK forget that image...

But yeah. It would be neat seeing a Squirtle turning into a dirty-haired blonde trying to adapt in the real world. XD

I can just see it now. He'll find out that rubbing his cheek on another person will not give him that...desired reaction. Or maybe he/she will instinctively follow another human's orders just because of training....

Or maybe he/she would be able to speak Pokemon, and become a trainer. Or maybe he/she could encounter issues where she/he realizes he/she can't understand the Pokemon language. Thus lonesomeness and depression...

Oh there are lots of fun ways this can go if you this right!!! :D

Another idea might be to...--- :O GASP!!!!

-picks up shiny coin-

...
"Ohhh...shinyyyyy!"
...
"Where am I?"

-walks away-

tatewaki2000
7th September 2009, 6:07 PM
-loses shiny coin-

ohh wait... re-reads first post.

Are you asking if a videogame plot could succeed? Like, a game similar to MD but the opposite...
...

If that's the case, I guess it might work...

My guess is that it'll become a cliched game where you the Pokemon, team up with a Pokemon team...and find items...in order to turn back to normal... And most likely to make the game more difficult...you'll fight a boss in every stage.

And plotwise, we'll get that cliche ending where the protagonist chooses to stay a Pokemon, and all his/her friends are soo happy. And they live happily ever after.

Guh... I really hope it's a story idea you're after.

Is it just me...or did the game idea I just spouted sounded reeaaaallyyy familiar. XP

-sigh-

"I lost my shiny coin." T.T

P.S.- If the game BEGINS when the Pokemon wakes up as a human...it won't work, unless you make it similar to X-Men. (hence the "Pokemon humans" having powers idea)

Well, actually, there are probably other ideas, but GAME-WISE will they be appealing to the buyers? D:

FlamingRuby
7th September 2009, 7:25 PM
I'm batting around a story idea, yes--but there will be collection of shiny things involved (If this story idea does go foward, I'm writing it serial style.)

LightingKimba
7th September 2009, 7:40 PM
Pokemon turning into a human might work out. There is a lot of different potential stories in that idea.

Though not the central point of analysis, there's a point (More like current point) in my fanfic, LaLD!, where one of the central protagonist's pokémon develops the abililty of transforming into a human. Though I haven't actually "shown"/written the finer details of this weird ability, it was mainly a small gag at that type of transformation stories.

The pokémon in question, a small Vulpix known as Foxy Loxy, is actually playing tricks on her trainer. Really, the leaf on the head thing is a reference to the old Japanese tale of foxes, where the actual yokai being, the "kitsune", would actually shift its form from having one placed on its head. In Foxy Loxy's case, the effect is immediate whenever a leaf's on her head in any form.

FlamingRuby
7th September 2009, 9:19 PM
That's a cool idea, LightningKimba.

tatewaki2000
7th September 2009, 10:19 PM
Hehehehe. As long as we're putting out Pokemon turning into human fics, you've gotta check this fic out. I've found it once upon a time and I've fell in love with it.

It's a simple story. :) "What if Pikachu woke up as a human?"

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4549203/1/

FlamingRuby
7th September 2009, 11:14 PM
My basic idea for the plot

The Pokemon has never understood why s/he is so attracted to humans, and decides (along with a few friends that have the same desire) to meet with Jirachi. Jirachi says that that kind of wish is grantable, but he needs a lot of power to do it, in the form of so many shiny things

tatewaki2000
8th September 2009, 12:30 AM
Quick solution. Mug a Meowth! :D

-hides shiny coin-

You can't steal mine! D:

Diddy
8th September 2009, 11:48 AM
I actually played around with that idea a while back.

The basic idea was about a Mightyena. Then we skip to a university student sitting a paper in Saffron about Pokeball, which is the subject he's studying.

This is where the pokeball essay I mentioned a while back comes from xD

Then I was going to have the Mightyena transform into a human, retaining some mightyena like appearance features, Black-grey hair, slightly overlarge canines etc. and for some reason it turned into a Psychic Rebellion where Psychic pokemon rose up and murdered many humans.

moral of the story, pokemon to human results in mass murder.

FlamingRuby
8th September 2009, 9:31 PM
I'm going to try and avoid that if at all possible--once my party becomes human, they look completely human, with no memory of their former Pokemon selves.

Intelligence
8th September 2009, 9:58 PM
I want to join! It's a good job I found this, I was on the verge of going crazy!

My interests? Well, I bet thsi is what EVERYONE says, sometimes, well... not all the time, but still. Anyway, I like getting my ideas onto the page, partly because I'm full of them, and partly becaus if I don't, I get a headache. Also, I feel like Big Brother; I have my own little world, which I can control and bend to my will. It's like, my version of things, if you get my meaning.

The fics that I have at the moment are, currently, '1'. It's called 'Johto's Gold', and it's basically, my version of the Pokemon SoulSilver plotline, with many twists thrown in here and there, to make it completely my own. For example, a slightly scary, hostile and eccentric version of 'Mr. Pokemon', professor Elm's 'aquaintance'. Also, the second chapter see's said prof put in hospital, which may or may not be a critical footnote in the plotline. Of course, I'm not going to reveal that, am I? ^^

Praxiteles
9th September 2009, 4:29 PM
I'm going to try and avoid that if at all possible--once my party becomes human, they look completely human, with no memory of their former Pokemon selves.

Well, wait; then what's the difference between this pok&#233;mon-turned human and a regular human? Memory gives experience, which gives personality, which is half of someone's nature. How would you snag the plotline if there was no artifact of the transformation?

I'd expect pok&#233;mon who turned into humans would have reason for getting very depressed. They essentially lose their powers and culture as a pok&#233;mon for a thin anaemic sort of body and the possibility of socializing with certain organisms. Isn't that a bit of a loss?

tatewaki2000
9th September 2009, 6:06 PM
:o Luphinid has a great point!




^^ Curious as well.

FlamingRuby
9th September 2009, 7:31 PM
Yeah--This idea is very much in the planning stages, so I'll think of something to address that.

bobandbill
13th September 2009, 3:15 PM
I want to join! It's a good job I found this, I was on the verge of going crazy!But that's no good - writers are supposed to be crazy one way or another. -_-

But welcome anyway. =P Your fic sounds interesting as well, have to say...

Let's have a new topic, shall we?

Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?

My main fic is chock full of them - it's only the cast of Pokemon Colosseum. XD I've even included a various number of NPCs from that game for my fic, but I tend to focus on the main ones, such as Wes and admins like Miror B. I find them good fun to use, I must say. XD


Has anyone finished their attempts on the random writing challenge, curiously? Also, bobandbill, your deadline is starting to draw close. *pokes*

...wait, what?

Griff4815
13th September 2009, 4:04 PM
Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?

Do Nurse Joys count? I only use them, gym leaders, and Professor Birch, so far.

FlamingRuby
13th September 2009, 4:08 PM
I use the main trio a lot, particularly Brock and Happini

Araleon
13th September 2009, 9:48 PM
Well... In a one-shot I wrote once, it was centered on anime characters.

As of late, I've been developing a fic set in Johto, I've been planning since May/June. I'm planning on sticking with Gym Leaders, all of the Nurse Joys, and Professor Elm for canon characters, but you never know. I haven't created my villains yet. But I can say this, they will not be the HGSS Rocket executives. I'm creating my own plot.

starliteevee
13th September 2009, 11:12 PM
Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?
No. None at all, I simply cannot write out a person with a personality who has already been developed and decided, because I will most likely change their personality into something that isn't them. Other people here seem to be doing all right with portraying them, though.

I'm writing a one-shot right now. I'm rather excited about it, if I say so.

Blackjack Gabbiani
14th September 2009, 9:15 AM
I pretty much ONLY write canon characters. I don't think I could write a whole fic of OCs.

Diddy
14th September 2009, 9:37 PM
Okay Bob.

I'm setting myself a deadline to get my writing challenge finished. If it's not done by the end of September then feel free to poke me until I resemble something akin to a red ditto.

I stopped writing for a short period and now I need to get myself BACK ON TRACK!

Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?

My upcoming one-shot writing challenge includes nothing but them xD

The only other time I've done something like that was Angel Of Mercy which focused on Nurse Joy. But every time I attempt to write canon characters, I twist and pervert them until they are no longer recognisable.

They become more like OC's in Canon Character skins. I tried not to do that in the writing challenge though, I'll let you lot decide if I succeeded or not.

I probably haven't xD

LightingKimba
15th September 2009, 1:49 AM
Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?

Generally, if there are any canon characters in LaLD!, they're usually have a small time role, considering how LaLD!'s point is a parody at the gameverse's and mangaverse's general view point on the Pokémon series. Really, the main "canonical" characters that pop up are your NPCs, gym leaders, and of course, the various trainers that pop up (Youngsters with their confy shorts, much?).

tatewaki2000
15th September 2009, 5:21 AM
Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?

Yup.

Ash, Misty, and Brock. The original three. And I sometimes use the occasional Nurse Joy, Officer Jenny, and gym leader. XP

And maybe some of the villains. The obvious ones beside Jessie, James, and Meowth.

I really hate Oc's...but I can't feel but help like I'm making a Nurse Joy or Officer Jenny into one since there characters are usually flat, and I like adding some stuff.

Like a first name...duh. XP

Mrs. Lovett
15th September 2009, 10:06 PM
Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?
No, I like to make all of my characters up from scratch. The only exception to this is the Elite Four and Gym leaders - those are necessary for my story. I just don't think it's interesting to have Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy pop up everywhere :/

tatewaki2000
16th September 2009, 2:05 AM
-GASP!-

How can one not love Nurse Joy. :o

She shall rule the world!!!

Seriously, with that many siblings, their reproducing techniques are mind blowing.

OoOoOoO

But back to the relevance...
Is it just me, or are many of the people on this forum just using this place as fic advertisement! ;P

solovino
16th September 2009, 5:56 AM
Nurse Joys... and let's not forget Officer Jennys. Reproducing techniques? With the necessary rate for them to have apparently appeared instantly all over the world looking and sounding the same, my money is on an in-universe version of the Emerald clone glitch! A Cthulhu conspiracy in the Pokémon world! All hail the Unown! :D

On the topic at hand...
Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?

I try not to, at least when it comes to the Pokémon canon. One of the things I'm afraid to do is to include canon characters in my fics, the more if they are too prominent. Be it the idea yhat I'll screw everything up or simply that I don't trust myself to work them out IC, I concsiously try to refrain from canon characters except for small cameos or mentions. I know it's bad, but I feel like I won't be able to avoid it unti I learn better, which in turn will never happen because I don't dare to try, which in turn...

So maybe I can take the chance and ask a related question: is this bad? I mean, being afraid (don't know of a more realistic term) of essentially screwing up an established character if I try to mingle around with him/her?

Is it just me, or are many of the people on this forum just using this place as fic advertisement! ;P
Most likely it's people stretching it a bit on Rule #3. I at least, don't see anything that could be too blatant and offtopic. Then again, I'm just watching the last 3 pages and I'm new here.... and just published a new fic! where there are no canon characters!

purple_drake
16th September 2009, 2:06 PM
*pokespokespokes bobandbill*


About how much writing do you manage in one sitting? (And what does your quota depend on?)

Depends on how inspired I am and whether I'm typing or handwriting. When typing I can write more in a set space of time than when I handwrite, but I get distracted more easily by the computer's bells and whistles. When I get inspired, though, I've been known to write upwards of fifteen or twenty pages (on computer) in a day in one sitting ... but that happens rarely and I'm learning not to depend on it.


Do you use any canon characters in your fics? If so, who?

At every possible opportunity. My only fic/universe based around OCs was/is my very first, but even then the main character has a connection with a canon character (being a canon character's daughter and all) and said story was originally intended as an excuse to stuff as many canon characters in it as I could manage. Aside from that one, most of my stories are about canon characters directly.

Mostly I use E/GLs, particularly the Tohjo E/GLs and especially Lance, and Surge has lately shot to high on my list of favourite characters so he's my other main subject for now. Maxie started off said OC fic, along with his mangaverse admins. And there's Giovanni, obviously, because we can't forget Tohjo's villain. Otherwise, I tend to focus on (or would/will after having written the stories I have planned) Clair, Koga, Karen, Will, Sidney and Falkner, just because somehow in my mind those are the people who're nearest to Lance--he's the one who led the formation of my backstory for the Pokeworld and thus the backstory for said characters, and I tend to write about the ones I know best. Though, I think I focus on the Pokeworld's government of organisation and position in the world at large more than a lot of writers do, so all the canon E/GLs and professors and engineers and villains and whatnot have an important place somewhere in my writings.

I do tend to use the Jennys and Joys as a basis for my nurses or detectives, but I've been working on some reasoning for the whole 'clone' community that they have going on there, I just haven't found a place to use it. Mostly they'd be a backdrop, however, in use because I write gameverse and the gameverse doesn't gives us a canon character/s for those roles (and doesn't preclude them from existing). I only do it as needed, though.



So maybe I can take the chance and ask a related question: is this bad? I mean, being afraid (don't know of a more realistic term) of essentially screwing up an established character if I try to mingle around with him/her?

Not in the slightest. In fact, I'd go as far as saying this is a good thing, because it means that you're aware of the limits of canon's characterisation and you have a desire to stay within those limits, rather than the far-too-many people who run rampant all over them. The only reason I'd say it's bad is if you let the fear rule the kind of story you write; if you want to write a story with canon characters but never do because you're too scared of messing them up, then you'll never expand your skills and learn how to maintain their characterisation. At least by writing them, even if you fail at first, you'll gain an understanding of their character via reviewers and in the very process of writing. Only good can come from that.

Diddy
17th September 2009, 4:15 PM
But back to the relevance...
Is it just me, or are many of the people on this forum just using this place as fic advertisement! ;P

i wouldn't say people are doing it purely to advertise their fics.

I know I've done something similar to what you're implying, but I only mention my own fiction when I need to prove a point. For Example, if the question was about plot, then I could say "In *insert fic name* the plot was terribly convoluted, even I had a hard time following it at parts xD" or something like "That's kinda similar to what I did in *insert fic name* it really really helped keep the reader on the edge of their seat."

It's not like people are just posting saying, "READ MY FIC! IT RULZ!"

EDIT: New Question, in honour of my new banner by Zadros i ask Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

LightingKimba
17th September 2009, 10:40 PM
Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

Other than the userbar MurderMachine made me after I bothered him several times for one I asked kindly for one, not really. 'Course, that's obvious for a guy with little brainpower to figure out how to make a banner. XP

I don't even know if it drags anyone into the story, really. If anyone is readin' LaLD!, they sure don't wish to bother reviewin'. That, or they read the first chapter, and find too boring of a read.

Ysavvryl
18th September 2009, 2:54 AM
I've considered having a banner for a couple of my fics, but then decide against them. One, because I'm a klutz with technology. Two, because I have dial-up; banners and pics tend to drag loading times. And three, I'd be pretty picky about an ad for my fics.

I have wondered if they help draw people in, but I guess it depends on which sections you post in and how the fic connects. Like if you post in the third gen area a lot and have a Hoenn fanfic, a banner might get some people from there.

FlamingRuby
18th September 2009, 3:17 AM
I tried it, but I learned quickly that banners take up a lot of room.

tatewaki2000
18th September 2009, 5:50 AM
Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

Who wouldn't want a cool flashy pic showing of their fic's title!? XD Of course, I would love to get one, but I'm way too lazy and uncoordinated to make one.

In answer to the second question, I think the banner kinda works. I get curious and click on them from time to time, but I never really review because the review system in this forum is too strange/complicated for me. ^^;; And maybe because I have a low attention spa...

o.o

-stares at button-

tatewaki2000
18th September 2009, 5:51 AM
Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

Who wouldn't want a cool flashy pic showing of their fic's title!? XD Of course, I would love to get one, but I'm way too lazy and uncoordinated to make one.

In answer to the second question, I think the banner kinda works. I get curious and click on them from time to time, but I never really review because the review system in this forum is too strange/complicated for me. ^^;; And maybe because I have a low attention spa...

o.o

-stares at button-

tatewaki2000
18th September 2009, 6:11 AM
AWWW ...freakers...I hate lag!!! I did the dreaded double posting. T.T

oops...

OoOoOoO

I guess I must make amends, preferably by contributing to the forum topic!


OoOoOoO

What are ya'll opinions on highschool fics that seem to be flooded with Pokemon characters!?

I personally detest them. I know that this AU version is almost done in every category of fanfiction, but I can't help but twitch, when reading a story that has nothing to do with the REAL/Canon storyline.

For example: If you ever stumble on those fic where the summary is like...

(Title: Pallet High
Summary: Misty moves to Pallet High. A school filled with dangers on every corner. Can this former cheerleader fit in!? Can she resist Brock the school womanizer, Gary the dashing Jock, or even -GASP- the school's heartthrob Ash Ketchum!?!? Read and find out!!!)

x _ x

I just feel twitchy thinking about it.

Why can't people just make Pokemon fics that actually relate to the Pokemon universe!?

Guh.

^^

Okay. Now.... (throws everyone a weapon)

...I wonder what ya'll think...

FIGHT!!!

Blackjack Gabbiani
18th September 2009, 11:29 AM
I could totally see a high school fic with the Magical Pokemon Journey characters. I mean, they have to get SOME sort of education out in that town, and the town's so small they'd all go to the same one. Heck, it'd probably have multiple grades crammed into one room like a one-room schoolhouse.

Diddy
18th September 2009, 12:16 PM
I think High School fics are too technical to be honest.

You have to think of pokemonised versions of EVERYTHING. You have to decide whether the school is a pokemon school and therefore only teaches things to do with pokemon or if it's a mixed thing where you have regular lessons alongside optional pokemon courses.

Then you have to create a massive cast of characters to fit alongside your main characters. Just as a small example, look at Harry Potter. You have Harry, Ron and Hermoine yes, but then you have Neville, Dean, Seamus, All the random girl characters who get less screen time (Lavender, Parvati, Padma etc) then you've got randomers from other houses like Hannah Abbot, Terry Boot, Justin Finch-Fletchly.

Okay I'll stop naming Harry Potter characters. But can you see what I'm getting at. It's a school, yes there WILL be a hell of a lot of people there and you have to make it seem that way. And creating loads of random character who maybe get a very limited amount of plot space is a bit annoying.

A good example of one of these fics is (or was) Diaries by Dramatic Melody, until he discontinued it. He had a well rounded set of characters, good plots and a believable environment.

bobandbill
18th September 2009, 2:35 PM
But back to the relevance...
Is it just me, or are many of the people on this forum just using this place as fic advertisement! ;PDo *looks around* Wouldn't really say so - it's fine to talk about your fic with the answers if it's to give answers and examples and all, which would help develop the answers to beyond 'Yes' or 'No' - basically as long as there's no 'hai guys read my fic it's ___' or 'in my fic which btw you should read, I have ___', etc.

Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

I do, although it isn't necessary. It looks nice and all though, and I do think it would draw in a few readers (apparently it has drawn the minimum of one, so there you go =P) - sometimes one can't help but be curious to see the story behind the pictures, I suppose. Especially if the banner is a particularly good one.

As for high school fics... I haven't seen that many at all appear recently, but this is probably more due to my reduced reading of new stuff recently. (I really should fix this). I can't say many stick out as ones that worked and were interesting/well delivered as well - they tended to be rather messy or just not that well thought out, and good or bad they do tend to die out (but then again many, many fics do tend to die out, sadly). I think they have potential (and canonically there are such things as Pokemon schools, in the games and also the anime I think?), but the nature of the school and how it'd work would need to be thought out well. Needless to say I'd think some research would need to be done as well on that, probably. XD

Now I shall remind you to remind me about my deadline. And now I shall retreat to see if I can't improve my chances of doing this thing. I expect reminders when I get back. =P

Praxiteles
18th September 2009, 2:59 PM
Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

Hm, I usually go around with at least a banner for my main fiction at the time. I'm not talented with graphics and I distrust the banner request system, so I usually make do with one simple job per fic, nothing flashy. I'm not sure about drawing in readers; an old Mary-Sue eaten badfic could get an excellent banner by chance and you'd never be able to tell; many of the more excellent fics I've read do not in fact have any banner, or merely have a very plain affair.

What are ya'll opinions on highschool fics that seem to be flooded with Pokemon characters!?

Well, after a certain time all high school starts to look difficult to take seriously. The potential's there: of course people need education even in the pokémon world, and there's a lot can be done with a group of imperfect and developing trainers if you have enough skill and perceptiveness. The trouble is that so much high school fiction seems to have been done with a minimum of skill and actual point, and not so much about high schoolers. If you take the entire genre of high school fics as only entertainment, pretty soon it degrades into crack and eventually badfic. (Diaries, yes, is one exception; DM certainly saw each of the worthy characters as deserving of their own actual developed personality, and everything good followed thence.)

OMG everybody review my fic!! Wait... *remembers that his latest fic was completed half a year ago* Mentioning your fic in this sort of discussion is necessary at least once. However, I don't remember anyone particular who actually pimped their fic in the process.

Mrs. Lovett
18th September 2009, 10:51 PM
Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?
Yup! I think it's good for the first few weeks my fanfiction is up. A catchy banner will draw your reader in and give them that "I gotta read this' feeling. After a few weeks, I assume that *most* people know about my fanfiction, so I just revert to a link. Banners are good to get attention, but to keep that attention, the writing has to be good as well.

Griff4815
18th September 2009, 11:09 PM
Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

I do. And I'm not sure, I have very few reviewers so it's hard to tell if the banner does anything.

What are ya'll opinions on highschool fics that seem to be flooded with Pokemon characters!?

I was talking to a friend about this recently. Sadly, there seems to he high school fics for every single thing you can think of. People like to have things relate to their environments and then idealize them- particularly with shippings between canon characters and they sometimes have self inserts. It's not really my cup of tea, personally.

Araleon
20th September 2009, 5:29 AM
Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

Well, yes. I've never had one, but I'd like one. I requested a banner for the fic I'm planning in Sweet May's banner shop last month, and she accepted the request, but then I saw the shop close, so I'm a bit confused, but whatever.

But I do think that banners are a good way to draw in readers to read the fic. I know I've gone to fics based on their banner... Actually, I think that's what got me to read Saber's awesome fic (Cross of Fates) a few years back. I finished right when the thread was locked and moved to completed fics...


What are ya'll opinions on highschool fics that seem to be flooded with Pokemon characters!?

Honestly? I don't tend to read high school fics. If I do, it's rare, Mostly because I like reading about the Pokemon along with the characters.

purple_drake
20th September 2009, 1:34 PM
Do you like to have a promotional/advertising banner for your fic? Do you think it helps drag readers in?

I think it helps, because let's face it, attention is usually drawn by something catchy, even if said attention doesn't last. That said I only got my first banners within the past year, because I have no skill for making one myself and just wasn't bothered enough to ask someone to make one for me: the banner I have now was offered because the maker wanted something to do in her spare time, and my other one was a contest prize. I probably won't really make an effort to get any more unless it's by chance again, seeing as pure text has served me well enough in the past.

The problem with banners, as I see it, is having a bunch that you really really like, and yet as far as appearance goes it being hard to pull off more than one in a signature. I'd love to use both mine at all times, but they take up so much space, and given that one of them is for a one-shot that'll never be updated, well ...


What are ya'll opinions on highschool fics that seem to be flooded with Pokemon characters!?

I don't usually like those sorts of fics, for reasons others have said. That said, I have read at least one fantastic 'highschool fic' before (it was Naruto, not Pokemon) which was unique because, firstly, it was more a 'middleschool fic' to put the younger characters at their proper ages (which is something to be said about Naruto and highschool fics: at least there actually are tons of student-age canon characters around) and, secondly, it was all written from the teachers' point of view, not the students', which meant the rampant shipping and whatnot just wasn't there and the events of the year were given a perspective school-age students just wouldn't think of. Given that the fic was written by a pair of IRL teachers ...

Ysavvryl
21st September 2009, 3:00 AM
High school fics could be interesting, or could be terrible. It depends on the author and how it's focused. I've read a couple that start out nice, but then never got continued. Then again, I like it when school stories include scenes in classes, especially in different settings like a Pokemon world. That's one of the things I disliked about later Harry Potter books, fewer in-class scenes that dealt with what was being taught. And then I liked the OWL tests when they showed up.

I have a topic concerning journey fics; more specifically, ones that follow the Gym structure.

Say you have a Pokemon-world character out to challenge the Gyms starting from scratch. What items does s/he need on this journey?

It may seem like a mundane question, but sometimes mundane things can lead to interesting situations. I got on this idea while writing a story where, at the first Gym, the MC reveals that he doesn't even have a Badge Box. A bit later, he goes shopping for that and other things. I came up with an in-store pamphlet listing recommended purchases. I'll post the list up later; I kind of want to see if anyone picks up on something I missed.