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R_N
12th March 2011, 2:41 AM
It's a damn good Pokemon, that Musharna. It's freaky, actually. But seeing a how Bianca would completely suck without at least one good Pokemon, you understand why GF put it there. But yeah it's really scary. It takes my Krokorok 3 STAB Crunches to take it out. Yikes.


Defeating Victini would be a good way to train. Should have thought of that earlier.

But the easiest way to catch a legendary would probably be just to save right before battling it.

Honestly I found Bianca's team more threatening than Cheren's. I just felt that, even with type advantages, she was the harder one to take down.

Meanwhile only Cheren's starter was a problem for me. I enjoy the irony of giving the character concerened with being STRONG the two weakest Pokemon ever. I mean, Liepard? Unfezant? Really?

rocky505
12th March 2011, 2:48 AM
Cheren's team is bad weak to Galvantula in my game all of his pokemon are weak to it.Serperior, Unfezant, Liepard, Simipour.

KickAsh
12th March 2011, 3:04 AM
Honestly I found Bianca's team more threatening than Cheren's. I just felt that, even with type advantages, she was the harder one to take down.
Meanwhile only Cheren's starter was a problem for me. I enjoy the irony of giving the character concerened with being STRONG the two weakest Pokemon ever. I mean, Liepard? Unfezant? Really?
I think both rivals are pretty much, pushovers, but if I had to decide, I think Bianca might actually be stronger...maybe.
Oh my goodness Liepard is the worst of the early derps. It is outclassed by almost every Pokemon to ever grace a Pokedex. It's in its own tier which is NEFUT (Never Ever F***ing Use This). Here's a comparison between two early 'mons, Purrloin (Liepard's pre-evo) and Patrat.

Patrat has better HP, Attack, Defense, and Sp.Def. Those first three stats are the most important though, as the early game is basically a nuance-free clobber fest. The Pokemon who prevail can take hits the best and deliver them even better. Common early moves are Bite and Tackle, which happen to be physical moves. With Patrat's superior Defense, he can survive more of those than Purrloin, and with his superior Attack, he can make them hurt more than Purrloin can.

Also, Patrat's movepool is vastly superior to Purrloin in the early game. Patrat learns Bite at level 6 (quite early), and Purrloin learns it...never. In fact up until level 12, Purrloin's best offensive threat is Assist. At level 12, Purrloin learns Fury Swipes, which is a meh move. At by this point, Patrat has learned the handy Detect. Soon after, Purrloin finally gets something good with Pursuit at level 15, but at level 16, Patrat gets Crunch. Patrat gets Crunch at level 16.
Purrloin's next move is Torment, which is Taunt's disappointing little brother. Patrat's next move is Hypnosis. Hypnosis may have low accuracy, but it sure is better to put something to sleep rather than to prevent it from using the same move twice in a row. At level 21, Purrloin (assuming it hasn't evolved), learns Fake Out. Yay, flinching? Patrat (also assuming it hasn't evolved) learns Super Fang. Purrloin's next move of note is Assurance, which it gets at level 28. Yes, Purrloin gets Assurance at level 28. Yes, that is very, very late. Although it does get Hone Claws at level 24. And by now, Patrat has Work Up and Hyper Fang. And at this point, you should box both Purrloin and Patrat.
So at the end of this, with their four most recent moves worth mentioning, it's:

Patrat (with better stats)
-Hypnosis
-Super Fang
-Work Up
-Hyper Fang

Purrloin
-Torment
-Fake Out
-Hone Claws
-Assurance

Obviously, Purrloin is going to get its tail kicked, with a typical battle going something like Patrat puts Purrloin to sleep in two turns, after taking not so much damage thanks to it's ok Defense. Patrat then uses a Work Up or two, while Purrloin can do nothing, and Patrat proceeds to OHKO or maybe 2HKO Purrloin with Hyper Fang.


EDIT: Unfezant sucks, too.

R_N
12th March 2011, 3:10 AM
I still remember being absolutely floored when N's level 7 Purrloin did only 3/5 damage to a level 2 Lillipup

It's like...wow

KickAsh
12th March 2011, 3:20 AM
I still remember being absolutely floored when N's level 7 Purrloin did only 3/5 damage to a level 2 Lillipup

It's like...wow
It's like a Magikarp holding an Everstone, but worse. It's a shame, too, because Purrloin's design isn't so bad.

R_N
12th March 2011, 3:43 AM
It's like a Magikarp holding an Everstone, but worse. It's a shame, too, because Purrloin's design isn't so bad.

Magikarp at least gets Swift Swim, Flail, and Bounce

Mr.Munchlax
12th March 2011, 4:00 AM
I'm trying to decide a pokemon for my team based on the ones I caught in Soul Silver.

I'm still deciding on Scyther but I want to double check my other decisions too. I'm close to finishing this up but here are my possible equivalents, in the order of when my Soul Silver pokemon were caught.

http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/161.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/504.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/175.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/570.gifhttp://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/607.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/152.gif-http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/495.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/123.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/543.gifhttp://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/624.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/239.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/602.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/034.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/545.gifhttp://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/553.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/133.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/515.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/170.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/564.gifhttp://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/618.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/246.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/551.gifhttp://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/524.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/220.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/613.gifhttp://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/582.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/225.gif-http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/627.gif

R_N
12th March 2011, 4:32 AM
I'm telling you, Karrablast is the closest match to Scyther.
I don't really see the resemblence between Togepi and either of your choices.
Same thing with Elekid; I think Joltik would match up. Similar size, coloring, adorableness, speedy, etc
Scoleopede matches Nidoking best, I think
Axew seems more reminiscent of Larvitar than either Sandile or Roggenrola
I say Vanillite for Swinub: cute ice type three stage line

Mr.Munchlax
12th March 2011, 5:14 AM
I'm telling you, Karrablast is the closest match to Scyther.
I don't really see the resemblence between Togepi and either of your choices.
Same thing with Elekid; I think Joltik would match up. Similar size, coloring, adorableness, speedy, etc
Scoleopede matches Nidoking best, I think
Axew seems more reminiscent of Larvitar than either Sandile or Roggenrola
I say Vanillite for Swinub: cute ice type three stage line


Well, the thing is, aside from Eevee and Togepi, I'm trying to have each of the Unova pokemon share at least one type with the Soul Silver Pokemon. I agree with you about Karrablast but here are the other methods to my madness:

I thought Zorua would be a Togepi equivalent because of how you can only get one of each, and Litwick because it slightly looks like Togepi.

You're right about Joltik but I thought Tynamo could be an Elekid equivalent because of how it's low stats & limited moveset make it feel like a baby pokemon

I also saw Roggenrola as a Larvitar equivalent because I need to get an everstone



http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/161.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/504.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/175.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/570.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/152.gif-http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/495.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/123.gif-http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/588.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/239.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/602.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/034.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/545.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/133.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/515.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/170.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/618.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/246.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/610.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/220.gif- http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/582.gif
http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/225.gif-http://imgboot.com/images/aragornbird/627.gif

TsukiMirage
12th March 2011, 7:59 AM
Watchog has been great in helping me catch other pokemon. With Hypnosis I can put then to sleep and with Super Fang, I can weaken them with fear of killing them. Mean Look keeps them in the fight. The only real problem is against the more stronger pokemon, Watchog needs to be healed every couple of turns.

streetlightdsb
12th March 2011, 8:20 AM
Honestly I found Bianca's team more threatening than Cheren's. I just felt that, even with type advantages, she was the harder one to take down.

Meanwhile only Cheren's starter was a problem for me. I enjoy the irony of giving the character concerened with being STRONG the two weakest Pokemon ever. I mean, Liepard? Unfezant? Really?

Unfezant made me laugh. When it learnt Razor Wind I'd happened to have just taught Krookodile (or maybe Krokorok at that point) Protect because I was bored of Retaliate. The battle went like this; Rock Tomb- Razor Wind part 1- Protect-Razor Wind part 2- Rock Tomb- Razor Wind part 1 Rock Tomb- Unfezant dies- Moxie boost- sweep. Laughable battle. :)

isshoni
12th March 2011, 9:55 AM
I'm telling you, Karrablast is the closest match to Scyther.

Why's everyone forgetting about Leavanny, who's obviously the closest thing to Scyther ever. Even looks more like it than Scizor.

I mean look at it.
http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx355/isshonilove/BW-Sprites/542.png

It's speedy and hits pretty hard too, much like Scyther. 103 base attack and 92 base speed arent that bad, especially when you have X-Scissor, Leaf Blade, Shadow Claw and whatever moves you want to use in-game. You could also have it goe special (in-game everything's possible) with Bug Buzz, Energy Ball and Air Slash.

Omg, I'm so convinced that I might have to clear up a spot for it on my White team..

smartie
12th March 2011, 10:01 AM
Why arent Bouffalant - Tauros and Beartic - Ursaring not in that list of comparisons? :o And what about Stunfisk - Dunsparce, Serperior - Milotic and Swanna - Fearow?

Zhanton
12th March 2011, 10:41 AM
Why arent Bouffalant - Tauros and Beartic - Ursaring not in that list of comparisons? :o And what about Stunfisk - Dunsparce, Serperior - Milotic and Swanna - Fearow?

The list of comparisons is for Mr Munchlax's team. In SS or HG he used those Pokemon and now in BW he wants to use 'similar' Pokemon.

And, speaking of said list, Togepi and Litwick don't look much alike... :P Sure, they're both cute, but they're not all that similar apart from that. But I'm not too sure what could be a replacement. Woobat, because Togepi has something to do with love, doesn't it? And Woobat has a big heart shaped nose? And they're both really cute and evolve by happiness?

PokemonOwn
12th March 2011, 11:07 AM
What's everyone's opinion on the Tympole line? personally, I think they are good if you're looking for a Water type, if you didn't pick Samurott, or you didn't pick Panpour.

MagnetonNr1
12th March 2011, 11:10 AM
What's everyone's opinion on the Tympole line?

I think they're good as Pokémon in general, but I don't like the design of Seismitoad.

ShinyShelgon
12th March 2011, 11:41 AM
Guys, what should I do with my Damanitan? I now have both the Zen Mode one and the normal one and their stats are pretty much the same...

Is the zen mode one actually better?

Blazios
12th March 2011, 11:45 AM
Guys, what should I do with my Damanitan? I now have both the Zen Mode one and the normal one and their stats are pretty much the same...

Is the zen mode one actually better?

Sheer Force is still better. Not only is Fire/Psychic a horrible defensive typing, but becoming bulky at only half its HP isn't good.

Dracoste
12th March 2011, 11:46 AM
Guys, what should I do with my Damanitan? I now have both the Zen Mode one and the normal one and their stats are pretty much the same...

Is the zen mode one actually better?

Stats Normal Darmanitan/Zen mode Darmanitan:
HP-105/105
Attack-140/30
Defense-55/105
Sp. Attack-30/140
Sp. Defense-55/105
Speed-95/55

The normal Darmanitan has higher attack and speed, but when in Zen mode his Defense, Sp. attack and Sp. Defense rise

ShinyShelgon
12th March 2011, 11:47 AM
Thanks :)
I think it's just the novelty that made me want the zen mode darmanitan...
My Sheer Force darmanitan has won me lots of battles effortlessly! I'll be keeping him then :)

smartie
12th March 2011, 12:26 PM
What's everyone's opinion on the Tympole line? personally, I think they are good if you're looking for a Water type, if you didn't pick Samurott, or you didn't pick Panpour.

You're right, it's a very nice line. The typing is good too. But too bad there's just sooo many water pokemon, and Eelektross isn't THE best looking water pokemon emo.

Seem
12th March 2011, 12:27 PM
What's everyone's opinion on the Tympole line? personally, I think they are good if you're looking for a Water type, if you didn't pick Samurott, or you didn't pick Panpour.


I like it, not too much for Seismitoad's design but it's not horrible. But that might be because I love Politoed and just find Seismitoad ugly in comparison.

Dracoste
12th March 2011, 12:35 PM
and Eelektross isn't THE best looking water pokemon emo.

Probably because it isn't a water-type Pokémon. It's a electric type.

Quite an awesome Pokémon actually and because it has the Ability levitate it doesn't have any weaknes.
I may consider to train one in the future.

bones090
12th March 2011, 12:42 PM
You're right, it's a very nice line. The typing is good too. But too bad there's just sooo many water pokemon, and Eelektross isn't THE best looking water pokemon emo.

Yeah, definitely, maybe because it's not a Water. Wheey, fail...

Dracoste
12th March 2011, 12:58 PM
I just did that mini-quest in Opelucid City in which you have to show a guy(in Black Thyme and in White Bach) a pokémon with charge from the other version.
Because that guy said he bould a machine that connects with the past, I though you could see the other version's Opelucid city...
*sigh* all you get is a Cell Battery from Thyme/Bach.

I was really excited to see the other version's Opelucid City...
Oh well, I helped a guy with his dream and got an Item...

SasakiThePikachu
12th March 2011, 1:03 PM
I'll recommend the Tympole line with screaming enthusiasm to anyone who will listen.

My Tympole not only outclassed my Panpour, but she SAVED me while walking through the desert (she pwned everything in there, and the ground type resistance to the sandstorm was sooo useful) and mopped the floor with Elesa's gym.

Also, any pokemon that evolves early in this game is good in my book. Half of my team won't be fulled evolved until the 50's/60's ;__;

Chill92
12th March 2011, 1:14 PM
I just did that mini-quest in Opelucid City in which you have to show a guy(in Black Thyme and in White Bach) a pokémon with charge from the other version.
Because that guy said he bould a machine that connects with the past, I though you could see the other version's Opelucid city...
*sigh* all you get is a Cell Battery from Thyme/Bach.

I was really excited to see the other version's Opelucid City...
Oh well, I helped a guy with his dream and got an Item...

Really? Man I was just about to look for a Blitze from some other guy who plays black...

I find Karrablast and Shellmet way of evolving annoying. Can't you use the evolving GTS glitch in BW for these two?

Dragoniteftw
12th March 2011, 1:16 PM
chandelure 145 sp.attack + fire blast/flamethrower/energy ball/shadow ball = AMAZING!

Xman96
12th March 2011, 1:22 PM
chandelure 145 sp.attack + fire blast/flamethrower/energy ball/shadow ball = AMAZING!

Yeah, but you should replace Fire Blast/Flamthrower with Calm Mind.

Beebar234
12th March 2011, 1:53 PM
I'm loving the new designs and movepools.
Only thing I hate is the water starter final evo. It just doesn't make sense.

SasakiThePikachu
12th March 2011, 2:04 PM
I'm loving the new designs and movepools.
Only thing I hate is the water starter final evo. It just doesn't make sense.

Why not??

Samurott is pure awesomesauce...surely one of the best starters ever! :3

edit: yaaay, 500th post!!!

Sabonea_Masukippa
12th March 2011, 2:05 PM
^It's a sea lion/giant otter hybrid that matches traditional samurai armour and continues the 'darkening' of the line that occured in Oshawott --> Futachimaru.

I don't see what's not to get.

LexSuicune
12th March 2011, 4:35 PM
I think Samurott and Feraligatr are the best designed final water starters.

MagnetonNr1
12th March 2011, 5:05 PM
It just doesn't make sense.

It doesn't have to make sense.
It's a Pokémon. :p

ShinyShelgon
12th March 2011, 5:10 PM
Seeing everybody's recommendations is making it so hard to decide a team haha

I know that I love my darmanitan and my Boldore (which I won't be able to evolve for a while because of lack of WiFi :() and I'm getting to love my Samurott since I used a heart scale and gave it mega horn - it basically OHKO's everything with that move!
3 more spaces and like 100 awesome pokemon to choose to fill 'em with...

Blueysicle
12th March 2011, 5:25 PM
What's everyone's opinion on the Tympole line? personally, I think they are good if you're looking for a Water type, if you didn't pick Samurott, or you didn't pick Panpour.

As much as Tympole's face creeps me out, my playthrough of Black has given me a LOT of respect for Seismitoad. That thing has saved me so many times, it's not funny. During my battles with N and Ghetsis, that was the Pokemon that really held it together and guided me towards a win. Plus, with Shell Bell + Aqua Ring + Drain Punch + Poison Touch, my Seismitoad both dealt a lot of damage to the opposing Pokemon and laughed off any done to him.

It's funny how first impressions dictate that you don't like a certain Pokemon or even feel just neutral about it. But once you actually use it for yourself, you grow to like them a lot more.

Asmoday
12th March 2011, 6:22 PM
named my duckette hm slave 2
only has 2 hm moves but will probably learn more soon :p
surf
fly

Blazios
12th March 2011, 6:37 PM
Just found out that English Cofagrigus without a nickname can't be traded on the GTS because its name is censored.

Wow... fail. Just... fail

MagnetonNr1
12th March 2011, 6:43 PM
Just found out that English Cofagrigus without a nickname can't be traded on the GTS because its name is censored.

Wow... fail. Just... fail

Cofagrigus...
Yes, that's very offensive. Not!

That's fail, yes.

rocky505
12th March 2011, 7:40 PM
So they allow DEATHkhan but not Cofagrigus

Lorde
12th March 2011, 7:53 PM
Cofagrigus without nicknames cannot be traded on the GTS? But it's the translators fault, not ours. Gah! I'll never understand their method of thinking. I do find it ironic that people played it off cool when the name was revealed, and now we find out that the name is actually censored while trading on the GTS. I'm actually starting to believe that Emonga was changed to Emolga to prevent issues like these. Too bad the translators didn't think ahead when they gave Desukan an English name :rolleyes:

ForeverFlame
12th March 2011, 8:15 PM
LOL those people are such failures. Why didn't think think about that beforehand?

Thankfully they can externally edit the GTS, so I guess we'll be having Pokemon named after those three letters running around the GTS soon.

Dreamseller
12th March 2011, 8:27 PM
I've just discovered the old pokemon champ Cyntia in the seaside town!

This is probably very old, but I have the english version! :P

Pyrax
12th March 2011, 8:53 PM
What's everyone's opinion on the Tympole line? personally, I think they are good if you're looking for a Water type, if you didn't pick Samurott, or you didn't pick Panpour.

Meh, it's alright.
Too bad Seismotoad can't learn ice beam, in fact, that's essentially why I didn't use it in the first place. >>

Slowemperor
12th March 2011, 9:00 PM
Tympole line is hideous, imo. Tympole has that freaky face, Palpitoad looks like a deceased/mutated aberration. Seismitoad is bearable, but the moles are just to weird...
They might be useful, never tryed.
Talking about useful, Darmanitan (and Darumaka) is a OHKO beast.

aggronFTW
12th March 2011, 9:21 PM
Is it me or is the new method for transferring older pokes AMAZING? I just shipped over about 7 boxes full of pokes onto my black and it only took like an hour to do, it's great that you can do it as many times in a day as you want.

R_N
12th March 2011, 9:24 PM
Is it me or is the new method for transferring older pokes AMAZING? I just shipped over about 7 boxes full of pokes onto my black and it only took like an hour to do, it's great that you can do it as many times in a day as you want.

It took a few tries for me to get used to it, but really does go by quick once you learn it.

Cheska
12th March 2011, 11:21 PM
Something I find completely infuriating is the fact that you can't use the same event Celebi twice to get Zorua in different versions of the game.

I had Celebi on my SoulSilver cartridge, but let my brother transfer it over to his Black version first since I still had not received my relocator. Just my luck, Celebi is only usable once :(

KickAsh
12th March 2011, 11:53 PM
What's everyone's opinion on the Tympole line? personally, I think they are good if you're looking for a Water type, if you didn't pick Samurott, or you didn't pick Panpour.
Well, competitively they suck. 4x weakness to Grass is not fun. And in-game, if if you picked Tepig, Bianca will have a Serperior to give your butt an ultimate whipping. But other than that it's good in-game I would suppose. But design wise, it's not bad. Tympole is alright, but Palpitoad is kind of creepy because of it's rather disturbing face. And then there's Seismitoad, who is pretty awesome.
But in Pinwheel Forest, encountering a wild Tympole is really annoying. I found it impossible to flee from them.
For my Water, I picked Jellicent.


Cofagrigus without nicknames cannot be traded on the GTS? But it's the translators fault, not ours. Gah! I'll never understand their method of thinking. I do find it ironic that people played it off cool when the name was revealed, and now we find out that the name is actually censored while trading on the GTS. I'm actually starting to believe that Emonga was changed to Emolga to prevent issues like these. Too bad the translators didn't think ahead when they gave Desukan an English name
http://www.gamesprays.com/images/icons/trollface-3078_preview.jpg


I think Samurott and Feraligatr are the best designed final water starters.
I like Feraligatr and Empoleon the best. Empoleon's design was just so bad***. It's like an armored penguin with trident horns. Win.

Excadrill
13th March 2011, 12:51 AM
4x grass weakness is fine if you don't have ANY other weaknesses. And Bianca is a hopeless trainer, she said it herself.

KickAsh
13th March 2011, 1:06 AM
4x grass weakness is fine if you don't have ANY other weaknesses. And Bianca is a hopeless trainer, she said it herself.
Grass Pokemon are pretty common, though. From this gen, there's Ferrothorn, which I think has already been classified as an uber. Also, Virizion, which is OU, very fast, and has great Sp.Def. Not to mention, Celebi, etc. from previous gens.
Also, it's a 4x weakness. That hurts.

Snipehsheep
13th March 2011, 1:14 AM
Grass Pokemon are pretty common, though. From this gen, there's Ferrothorn, which I think has already been classified as an uber. Also, Virizion, which is OU, very fast, and has great Sp.Def. Not to mention, Celebi, etc. from previous gens.
Also, it's a 4x weakness. That hurts.

As does Swampert, Heracross, Ferrothorn, ect.

R_N
13th March 2011, 1:25 AM
4x grass weakness is fine if you don't have ANY other weaknesses. And Bianca is a hopeless trainer, she said it herself.

I think Bianca is too down on herself. She's actually a fairly good trainer and I maintain she's better than Cheren.

DestroyerOfWorlds
13th March 2011, 3:34 AM
...lol at Cofagrigus not being GTS-able without a nickname.
This probably won't bode well for what I named my Entei when I caught it (without meaning to) (on the second encounter) while training my Elekid in SS. (Nickname reflected my surprise)

Rainbowdashtheawesome
13th March 2011, 5:20 AM
I just realized that in the Black version Pokedex, it says that Vullaby has wings that are too small to allow it to fly... and yet it can learn Fly...
Then again, next to the fact that it looks like a baby, diaper included, from birth all the way to level 54, a Pokedex screwup might not seem like a big deal.

Chaos Rush
13th March 2011, 5:27 AM
Luckily I managed to avoid Pokemon spoilers this whole time since September by disabling viewing avatars and signatures, so I'm finally starting to see the new Pokemon now that I have White. There are some interesting designs this generation, particularly Sigilyph and Cryogonal. When I first saw Cryogonal, I was like, "DAYUM THAT'S SICK!"

Silent Conversation
13th March 2011, 6:52 AM
I think Bianca is too down on herself. She's actually a fairly good trainer and I maintain she's better than Cheren.

I actually agree with this. Towards the beginning of the game I found Cheren more difficult (mostly because my main Pokemon in the early part of the game was my starter, which was weak to Cheren's), but now that I have a full team, I actually find Cheren far easier to beat than Bianca.

R_N
13th March 2011, 6:54 AM
I actually agree with this. Towards the beginning of the game I found Cheren more difficult (mostly because my main Pokemon in the early part of the game was my starter, which was weak to Cheren's), but now that I have a full team, I actually find Cheren far easier to beat than Bianca.

Vaniluxe just tears him apart.
Oh, UnfezICE BEAM Nooo not HaICE BEAM how willl I ever take on SerperICEBEAM

I think if I was at a higher level I seriously could have swept with just Vanilluxe. Gigalith might be a problem, I guess.

Cobalt_Latios
13th March 2011, 7:09 AM
I actually agree with this. Towards the beginning of the game I found Cheren more difficult (mostly because my main Pokemon in the early part of the game was my starter, which was weak to Cheren's), but now that I have a full team, I actually find Cheren far easier to beat than Bianca.
I think my team may have been a tad overleveled, as I seem to have no issues with either of them.

I even remember being able to take on Cheren's Pignite using both Servine and Serperior and actually win.

Then his damn Emboar outsped me... oh, wait, I forgot that it used Flame Charge. Even then, his speed stat is so bad that it would have at least taken 2 hits to properly KO me.


Vaniluxe just tears him apart.
Oh, UnfezICE BEAM Nooo not HaICE BEAM how willl I ever take on SerperICEBEAM

I think if I was at a higher level I seriously could have swept with just Vanilluxe. Gigalith might be a problem, I guess.
Good god, that's something else. I find it amusing how the Pokemon that everyone made fun of winds up being so damn powerful. Puts a new spin on, "I Scream, You Scream, we all Scream for ICE SCRBEAM!"

Oh, and the Litwick line is amazing. Slow, but amazing. Lampent is quite powerful. I'll probably start training a few others that I have in storage. One that I really want to get going with are: Mienfoo, Tynamo, Galvantula, Sigilyph (finish it off), Sandile (evolve it), and a few others.

I'll say this now that I've been able to properly experience it: GF how in the hell did manage to make this many Pokemon that have such a great use?

Oh, and Dragon Dance Scrafty is simply amazing.

/CL

Poke_Mania97
13th March 2011, 9:37 AM
I caught a sadnile yesterday and gave it a nickname. and i think this nickname is better than krokorok!

its called Crocky! get it! Croc and rocky! it can be spelt like that or Krocky

BCVM22
13th March 2011, 9:38 AM
Blimey. That's so very different from and better than Krokorok that I don't even know how to put it into words.

Poke_Mania97
13th March 2011, 9:54 AM
Blimey. That's so very different from and better than Krokorok that I don't even know how to put it into words.

so do u really think its better?

Kreis
13th March 2011, 9:59 AM
so do u really think its better?

It's breaks my heart to let you know that he was being sarcastic.

Poke_Mania97
13th March 2011, 10:01 AM
It's breaks my heart to let you know that he was being sarcastic.

O.o Well Ok. He/she sucks anyway! they have metagross. Im sure their a nice person though but metagross sucks!

BCVM22
13th March 2011, 10:02 AM
Them's fightin' words, son.

SasakiThePikachu
13th March 2011, 11:16 AM
Lolz at Cofragrigus' name being banned on the GTS. Isn't that pretty much them stating that they gave it an offensive name?! (Clearly it's not offensive, but this move implies they think it is in some way)

FFS...

Gah, everyone keeps going on about the Vani line and making me jealous -___- (I want one now, but there's no room for it on ANY of my planned teams). It sucks even worse that my current line-up (Servine, Palpitoad, Munna, Deino, Larvesta, Mienfoo) can't learn any ice moves, so although I've had relatively easy playthrough so far - not one loss - I believe I shall be royally f*cked when it comes to the last gym.

I want ice beam!! *cries like a child*

Chibi_Muffin
13th March 2011, 11:22 AM
Never mind Sasaki, you can train one later. *Hugs Gelato*

Is it just me, or does grinding get a lot easier when you have the Lucky Egg? I got Scrafty, Reuniclus and Lampent last night rather quickly, and this morning I trained up my Musharna, Galvantula and Whimsicott - didn't take too long.

aggronFTW
13th March 2011, 11:23 AM
I believe I shall be royally f*cked when it comes to the last gym.

I want ice beam!! *cries like a child*

Heh, I didn't have any ice or dragon moves for the last gym either, but I had the godly crustle and after one shell break, it tore through iris' team with a little help from scrafty.

Charoshi
13th March 2011, 11:34 AM
Never mind Sasaki, you can train one later. *Hugs Gelato*

Is it just me, or does grinding get a lot easier when you have the Lucky Egg? I got Scrafty, Reuniclus and Lampent last night rather quickly, and this morning I trained up my Musharna, Galvantula and Whimsicott - didn't take too long.

Nah, it ain't just you. I found that too. As soon as I got the lucky egg, I had a Samurott, Scrafty and Galvantula within an hour, with Reuniclus not to far behind. I'm am so glad they gave you a free lucky egg in this game, as well as multiple exp shares and master balls, as I was a tad bit dissapointed about not being able to send mine from Platinum.

Sponge
13th March 2011, 11:50 AM
Lolz at Cofragrigus' name being banned on the GTS. Isn't that pretty much them stating that they gave it an offensive name?! (Clearly it's not offensive, but this move implies they think it is in some way)

I'm on the GTS right now and I can search for Cofagrigus just fine....and it's name is listed as "Cofagrigus"

:S

Charoshi
13th March 2011, 12:02 PM
I'm on the GTS right now and I can search for Cofagrigus just fine....and it's name is listed as "Cofagrigus"

:S

I think what they meant is that for an English Cofagrigus to be on the GTS, it has to be nicknamed. I have seen a lot of Cofagrigus on the GTS, but never one with the name Cofagrigus. I guess that explains that. xD

Dracoste
13th March 2011, 12:26 PM
Is it just me, or does grinding get a lot easier when you have the Lucky Egg? I got Scrafty, Reuniclus and Lampent last night rather quickly, and this morning I trained up my Musharna, Galvantula and Whimsicott - didn't take too long.

And if you have a friend with the game it even becomes easier with the Entra link.

Lucky egg+EXP power=alot of EXP.

I actually managed to let my Lv. 55 Whimsicott go up 2 levels when it got 10000 EXP.

Rainbowdashtheawesome
13th March 2011, 4:42 PM
There's one ting that annoys me about the names of the elemental monkeys. Two out of three of them have names that start with "Pan" and then end with a four-letter word that starts with "S" and represents their element; why did they call Panpour Panpour when they could have made a solid three out of three with something like Pansoak? It describes water, has four letters, and starts with an S; it would have been the perfect way to make it match up with its fellow monkeys.

Dracoste
13th March 2011, 4:53 PM
There's one ting that annoys me about the names of the elemental monkeys. Two out of three of them have names that start with "Pan" and then end with a four-letter word that starts with "S" and represents their element; why did they call Panpour Panpour when they could have made a solid three out of three with something like Pansoak? It describes water, has four letters, and starts with an S; it would have been the perfect way to make it match up with its fellow monkeys.

Well, all the names has something to do with cooking. And pouring fits more than soaking.

But it indeed looks a bit off.

Excadrill
13th March 2011, 5:31 PM
The thing I love about this generation of pokemon is how nicely balanced the game is in terms of types. There are at least a few viable pokemon of every type in the game, even for the dragons and bugs, though for different reasons. Usually there's only one nonlegendary dragon, but we've got three now (but maybe Deino doesn't count. Evolving post-game is so impractical). And while bugs are nice at first, evolving so fast, they're easily outclassed after the 4th or 5th gym. Now we've got Leavanny with 103 attack and 92 speed, with a moveset to back it up; as well as the more poisonous Scolipede and those two pokemon that evolve when they switch owners; and Crustle the durable rock-bug. And I almost forgot my favorite, Galvantula, the first ever good special bug sweeper (aside from Yanmega, maybe). Volcarona isn't as viable either, though. Although your options are kind of limited for the first gym, especially if you stowed away the boring monkey like I did.

Steels aren't available until after level 30 or so, and all the Ice-types are pure [and somewhat winter-exclusive], so it's not perfect. But the fire types are a huge improvement after 4th gen ("Ponyta or Chimchar, that's it!" "Growlithe or Vulpix? Only one per version! And good luck evolving Magmar, or teaching it more than two useful moves!"). That was seriously bad.

Valoo.
13th March 2011, 6:55 PM
Yeah, I love how there's so much selection. In Sinnoh I knew my team very quickly, but in Unova it took me ages to narrow it down.

Poke_Mania97
13th March 2011, 7:46 PM
Wait, why is Cofagrigus censored? how is that offensive, i mean i see '***'

R_N
13th March 2011, 7:53 PM
Wait, why is Cofagrigus censored? how is that offensive, i mean i see '***'

That would be it. Chances are that the word filter they implemented, while smart enough to look past things like Froslass, is a bit too rigid when it came to coFAGrigus

Lolz at Cofragrigus' name being banned on the GTS. Isn't that pretty much them stating that they gave it an offensive name?! (Clearly it's not offensive, but this move implies they think it is in some way)

FFS...

Gah, everyone keeps going on about the Vani line and making me jealous -___- (I want one now, but there's no room for it on ANY of my planned teams). It sucks even worse that my current line-up (Servine, Palpitoad, Munna, Deino, Larvesta, Mienfoo) can't learn any ice moves, so although I've had relatively easy playthrough so far - not one loss - I believe I shall be royally f*cked when it comes to the last gym.

I want ice beam!! *cries like a child*
Oh geez Deino and Larvesta?
I could never have the patience for those in the main game separately, much less BOTH of them.

Lorde
13th March 2011, 7:55 PM
Wait, why is Cofagrigus censored? how is that offensive, i mean i see '***'

I don't find the name to be offensive; I just find it ironic that the translators were the ones who gave it a name that they ended up censoring on the GTS. I don't like or dislike Cofagrigus, but I do often have trouble spelling its name. I tend to add an "n" before the first "f" for some reason. I don't know why I do that, but I have to correct myself often. Anyway, I like Yamask more than I like Cofagrigus. I don't know why, but it looks sort of cute.

Cobalt_Latios
13th March 2011, 8:38 PM
Wait, why is Cofagrigus censored? how is that offensive, i mean i see '***'


I don't find the name to be offensive; I just find it ironic that the translators were the ones who gave it a name that they ended up censoring on the GTS. I don't like or dislike Cofagrigus, but I do often have trouble spelling its name. I tend to add an "n" before the first "f" for some reason. I don't know why I do that, but I have to correct myself often. Anyway, I like Yamask more than I like Cofagrigus. I don't know why, but it looks sort of cute.

It's mainly the people who think that the first G in "Cofagrigus" is a "hard g", and therefore the unintended term "***", gets used. After having listened to the "Unova rap" as it were, it seems it a "soft g".

Therefore:

It goes from: Coh-Fa-Gree-Gus

To: Coh-Fa-Jree-Gus.

/CL

R_N
13th March 2011, 9:04 PM
It's mainly the people who think that the first G in "Cofagrigus" is a "hard g", and therefore the unintended term "***", gets used. After having listened to the "Unova rap" as it were, it seems it a "soft g".

Therefore:

It goes from: Coh-Fa-Gree-Gus

To: Coh-Fa-Jree-Gus.

/CL

Uh? Can't Stop Catching Them All has it with the hard "Cof a gree gus" sound

DarthUr
13th March 2011, 9:16 PM
yamask is letting me down
he loses when he has a level and type advantage

Cobalt_Latios
13th March 2011, 9:21 PM
Uh? Can't Stop Catching Them All has it with the hard "Cof a gree gus" sound
Oh?

*listens to it again....*

Oh, oops!

It's more like "Cough-Agree-Gus" then. That flows pretty good actually.

/CL

ur2ez4me2bro
13th March 2011, 9:50 PM
From my own team, I probably like Excadrill the most. However, Conkeldurr starts to impress me a lot now, I just evolved him from Gurdurr (at lvl 60), Gurdurr was a huge burden for me but when I found someone in the chat who was willing to trade with me, I was so glad I kept my Gurdurr. Zekrom is pretty beast too, Samurott is a dissapointment tbh. I expected Samurott to be something like Swampert, my favorite Pokemon of all time. But no, he is not nearly as powerful or bulky.

bippacooleth
13th March 2011, 9:57 PM
Has anyone else used a Lilligant? I have one on my team, having impulse caught a Petilil and it is surprisingly good, easily my favourite on my team. Before buying the games, Lilligant would have been one of the last pokemon I would have considered using, but it rarely dies even in the Battle Subway (only on single mind you), but it is an extremely useful pokemon in game.

Dracoste
13th March 2011, 9:59 PM
Samurott is a dissapointment tbh. I expected Samurott to be something like Swampert, my favorite Pokemon of all time. But no, he is not nearly as powerful or bulky.

I really find it an awesome Pokémon, and his Megahorn is really helpfull. First I always could use it against Cheren's Serperior...until it got leaf storm :S

And because his Attack and Sp. atk are about the same it can really use both kind of attacks.


Has anyone else used a Lilligant? I have one on my team, having impulse caught a Petilil and it is surprisingly good, easily my favourite on my team.

I find it a good Pokémon it's amazingly strong, it keeps KO'ing my Pokémon when I have to fight against one. And it's Quiver dance and Teeter dance are so annoying.

R_N
13th March 2011, 10:06 PM
I used Lilligant. Quiver Dance, Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain.
It doesn't need anything else.
I thought I'd wind up using Petal Dance but the beefed up Giga Drain is too good.

I also hold a Big Root

Dracoste
13th March 2011, 10:42 PM
And one of it's ability is Own Tempo, so if you having a move-set in mind with Petal Dance, it won't get confused!

When I first saw it I underestimated it, and it showed me to never do that again...

R_N
13th March 2011, 10:47 PM
Own Tempo is great because computers love to try and confuse you with Swagger, or Water Pulse or whatever and Lilligant just laughs and Giga Drains them.

SasakiThePikachu
13th March 2011, 10:53 PM
Oh geez Deino and Larvesta?
I could never have the patience for those in the main game separately, much less BOTH of them.

Actually the Larvesta is a little poppet to raise; it's the Deino who is killing me. His exp gain is soooo freeaaaakin sloooow. They're both super in battle though, so probably worth it. The only downside is they won't evolve until I reach retirement age. Le sigh.

I cannot WAIT to have a Lilygant - gonna raise one on White. For the first time ever, I'm gonna use a grass type with a sleep+dream eater combo. Boo yeah! And with own temp+petal dance... *stares off into distance and drools*

bippacooleth
13th March 2011, 10:55 PM
I used Lilligant. Quiver Dance, Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain.
It doesn't need anything else.
I thought I'd wind up using Petal Dance but the beefed up Giga Drain is too good.

I also hold a Big Root

Thats the exact set I use, as I unfortunately caught one with Chlorophyll instead of Own Tempo which is a shame. I also considered using a Big Root, and I was wondering whether it affected Leech Seed as well as Giga Drain?

Dracoste
13th March 2011, 10:59 PM
I feel sorry for every idiot who tries to do Flatter on a Lilligant with Own Tempo...they just dig their own grave.

But about the other one, Whimsicott is not so bad either. It's ability Prankster is really helpfull. It also have some great moves like Cotton Guard, which raise it's Defense with 3 stages, and Hurricane, which is very helpfull against bug-types and other grass-types.

Redstars89
13th March 2011, 11:13 PM
I think I'm the only person to make Klink as one of my main pokes. EV trained him and everything with adamant nature. His gear grind is simply amazing and his pure steel typing is great. I'm surprised more teams aren't using him.

Slowemperor
13th March 2011, 11:19 PM
You don't have to level Larvestra, catch a full Volcarona, and Deino already comes in a rather nice level, add Lucky Egg or Exp.Share and motivated by its awsome final stage, I hope it won't be that hard.

ZaNOliEZ
13th March 2011, 11:37 PM
I'm looking for the best pokemon white team to just use during in-game. Any help? So far I have Rufflet lvl 45, Galvantula lvl 48, Victini lvl 49, Throh lvl 49, Samurott lvl 50, Zekrom lvl 51.

Dracoste
13th March 2011, 11:42 PM
I'm looking for the best pokemon white team to just use during in-game. Any help? So far I have Rufflet lvl 45, Galvantula lvl 48, Victini lvl 49, Throh lvl 49, Samurott lvl 50, Zekrom lvl 51.

Here's the Help Thread (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=467057)

But it's actually a nice team...but do you really need all those legendarys? Nothing wrong if you really want to use them...But I just don't really like to use them myself, but if you really want to use them, I won't stop you in doing so.

DanteGrace
13th March 2011, 11:45 PM
hye can anyone trade me a snivy pleas

Snipehsheep
13th March 2011, 11:47 PM
My Sawsbuck is great.

Leech Seed + Horn Leech with big root is amazing. He can OHKO anything thats weak to grass, and he's got good speed too, even with a - speed nature.

I also have him with Jump Kick and Nature Power for type coverage.

Carina
14th March 2011, 12:07 AM
Hey guys, a little stat question here.
I just caught a Solosis with a Brave nature...so that's +Attack. Of course, I plan to use it mostly for Special Attacks (possibly with the exception of Giga Impact, maybe). BUT it does have an IV of 31 for Sp.Attack. Is that good enough? Or is it still nothing compared to having a +Sp.A nature?

wearjo
14th March 2011, 12:10 AM
Finally!!!!!! This afternoon a will be getting pokemon black and white!!!!!!!!! Jb hifi wuz a little late to the party but oh well.... I'm so excited!!!!!!!

DoubleJG3288
14th March 2011, 12:17 AM
I used Lilligant. Quiver Dance, Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain.
It doesn't need anything else.
I thought I'd wind up using Petal Dance but the beefed up Giga Drain is too good.

I also hold a Big Root
Lilligant is an amazing beast.

Also, I decided that Buffoulant is cooler than Tauros. It's cry is much neater.

epicninjask123
14th March 2011, 12:24 AM
Some pokemon in the fifth generation are kinda bad. I was so excited when my friend told me about the "ice cream" pokemon. It was extremely slow and vulnerable. I ditched it soon as I caught Cobalion. Then there is Cofagrigus. I really wanted that one. I also ditched it. WAAAY too slow. Sure it has good defense, but what about its special defense? It's not the best. And Archeops is a real good one, but it dies in one hit. I still like it though.

smashbro77
14th March 2011, 12:28 AM
archeops is great, i have one with agility, acrobatics, ancient power and fly and it doesnt hold an item and it can basically destroy anything with acrobatics

Excadrill
14th March 2011, 1:02 AM
This generation was a MASSIVE improvement over the previous one, mainly because the pokemon were designed with the players' needs in mind. The 4th gen pokemon were littered with stuff that were only obtainable in the post game, as well as babies and pokemon to fulfill every bad, competitively awful idea they had.

ZaNOliEZ
14th March 2011, 1:12 AM
Here's the Help Thread (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=467057)

But it's actually a nice team...but do you really need all those legendarys? Nothing wrong if you really want to use them...But I just don't really like to use them myself, but if you really want to use them, I won't stop you in doing so.

Thanks for the feedback. So which pokemon should i use instead of the legendaries?

R_N
14th March 2011, 1:52 AM
Actually the Larvesta is a little poppet to raise; it's the Deino who is killing me. His exp gain is soooo freeaaaakin sloooow. They're both super in battle though, so probably worth it. The only downside is they won't evolve until I reach retirement age. Le sigh.
I don't know, I don't think I could handle carrying around both Deino & Larvesta for, god, the whole game? Geez I wasn't even at 50 (Zwelious) when I beat the game, much less 54 (Volcorona).

Fun fact, stat-wise, Zwelious is comparable to Watchog.


I cannot WAIT to have a Lilygant - gonna raise one on White. For the first time ever, I'm gonna use a grass type with a sleep+dream eater combo. Boo yeah! And with own temp+petal dance... *stares off into distance and drools*Oh, huh! I didn't know Lilli got Dream Eater, that's neat. Too bad it was post-game, I may have dropped Leech Seed for it.


Thats the exact set I use, as I unfortunately caught one with Chlorophyll instead of Own Tempo which is a shame. I also considered using a Big Root, and I was wondering whether it affected Leech Seed as well as Giga Drain?
Yep, Big Root affects Leech Seed as well. It's great.

I think I'm the only person to make Klink as one of my main pokes. EV trained him and everything with adamant nature. His gear grind is simply amazing and his pure steel typing is great. I'm surprised more teams aren't using him.

I fiddled with one on the Ice Gym, but didn't really click with me. Seems cool, though, maybe I'll try again some other game.

KickAsh
14th March 2011, 2:10 AM
But about the other one, Whimsicott is not so bad either. It's ability Prankster is really helpfull. It also have some great moves like Cotton Guard, which raise it's Defense with 3 stages, and Hurricane, which is very helpfull against bug-types and other grass-types.
Yeah I got Black, so once I heard how good Lilligant was I hoped maybe Whimsicott could be as good. So I caught I Cottonee, and it turns out that although Whimsicott is overshadowed by Lilligant, but it definitely deserves more credit than it gets.
First of all, Prankster is fantastic ability. It lets Whimsicott Taunt, Encore and Leech Seed first almost every time. Also, Whimsicott can fulfill a variety of moves. It can stall with Subseed combo+Encore, cripple sweepers with Encore/Taunt+U-turn, and it can even do some attacking with Cotton Guard to defend from stuff like Brave Bird and the powerful move Hurricane to overpower other Grass-types.
It's a great, versatile Pokemon, although it would be a whole lot better if it had Baton Pass. Seriously. That would be awesome.

R_N
14th March 2011, 2:14 AM
Actually, Whimsicott overshadows Lilligant in the metagame, for what it's worth. Thank Prankster for that.

Side note! I have been raising a Vullaby all day to get Mandibuzz in my Pokedex, and it's pretty neat. Really bulky, and has some nice moves if it needs to go on the offensive (Nasty Plot!!). I may trade one over to Black and use it during the main game, even. And I can even use the Eviolite for even more bulk so the wait until 54 won't be unbearable.

Kariachi
14th March 2011, 2:25 AM
Caught a Ferroseed to use, did not know that line could be so strong. I knew to expect the great defense, actually got her so I could try a defensive pokemon in-game, didn't expect her to hit so hard.

Dear Alexis,

I apologize for any yelling I may have done while training you. You rock the world, baby.

Much Love,
Your trainer

Cobalt_Latios
14th March 2011, 2:25 AM
So, first time through Victory Road... I now officially hate being against Durant. What the hell's it's ability? That thing has been able to critical me almost 50% of the time! I think one of them almost managed to sweep my team!

Speaking of team, doing some side training. Currently leveling up a Krookodile to level 50, as well as several others, including a Tynamo, Mienfoo and Sigilyph.

I'm doing this mainly so that I have more diversity to work with during the E4, and during the End Game. Never thought I'd have to do it, but it seems like a good idea. And, looking at what Mienfoo/shao can learn, very impressed.

/CL

Blueysicle
14th March 2011, 2:30 AM
So, first time through Victory Road... I now officially hate being against Durant. What the hell's it's ability? That thing has been able to critical me almost 50% of the time! I think one of them almost managed to sweep my team!

Swarm and Hustle. I guess the RNG gods just hate you.

R_N
14th March 2011, 2:31 AM
So, first time through Victory Road... I now officially hate being against Durant. What the hell's it's ability? That thing has been able to critical me almost 50% of the time! I think one of them almost managed to sweep my team!

Speaking of team, doing some side training. Currently leveling up a Krookodile to level 50, as well as several others, including a Tynamo, Mienfoo and Sigilyph.

I'm doing this mainly so that I have more diversity to work with during the E4, and during the End Game. Never thought I'd have to do it, but it seems like a good idea. And, looking at what Mienfoo/shao can learn, very impressed.

/CLTynamo?
Why has it not evolved yet?

noobers
14th March 2011, 2:42 AM
Because Tynamo is too adorable to evolve. :3

rocky505
14th March 2011, 2:43 AM
Because Tynamo is too adorable to evolve. :3 And is a very weak Pokemon with only 4 moves.

Grei
14th March 2011, 4:23 AM
I used Lilligant. Quiver Dance, Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain.
It doesn't need anything else.
I thought I'd wind up using Petal Dance but the beefed up Giga Drain is too good.

I also hold a Big Root

I use this set, except with Petal Dance instead of Leech Seed. I have Petal Dance simply because I purposely got an Own Tempo Petilil for that reason.

Though I'm considering putting Leech Seed in there... somewhere.

Had I gotten one with Chlorophyll, I probably would have gone with something like

Lilligant @ Heat Rock
-Sunny Day
-Solarbeam
-Quiver Dance/Sleep Powder
-Giga Drain

Or something similar, like with my Seismitoad being a Rain Dancer with Swift Swim. I feel like I'd need Sleep Powder just because setting up Sunny Day and Solarbeam is a bit risky with a Pokemon as fragile as Lilligant.


I have to say I'm really disappointed with ShedRest on Scrafty. It's so much of a gamble, waiting to see if it wakes up. I ended up getting a Scraggy with Moxie, although Shed Skin would have been nice just to get rid of things like Poison and Sleep when it's inflicted on him.

Pokemon Trainer Blue
14th March 2011, 4:35 AM
Has anyone here had the patience to raise a Ruflett/Vulaby from level 1 to level 54 ingame using them on their team? That's insane, using a baby bird Pokemon for that long...And I have a Mienshao and a Eelektrik on my team and I'm not even at the 8th gyms city. Mienfoo was actually really good until level 50 (which surprised me).

MetalFlygon08
14th March 2011, 4:37 AM
I just can't get comfy with Liligant's back sprite (which I will see the most of). They could've left out that giant mishapen leaf.

XXD17
14th March 2011, 4:39 AM
I used Lilligant. Quiver Dance, Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, and Giga Drain.
It doesn't need anything else.
I thought I'd wind up using Petal Dance but the beefed up Giga Drain is too good.

I also hold a Big Root

Lilligant is awesome indeed but it has two flaws...it needs to set up and can't really do much on its own...and its shallow movepool gets it walled by any sapsipper...that's why I prefer whimsicott...

I just can't get comfy with Liligant's back sprite (which I will see the most of). They could've left out that giant mishapen leaf.

I believe the leaf is supposed to resemble long hair and it isn't misshapen, it's just viewed from a slanted angle...

Pokemon Trainer Blue
14th March 2011, 4:39 AM
I think I'm the only person to make Klink as one of my main pokes. EV trained him and everything with adamant nature. His gear grind is simply amazing and his pure steel typing is great. I'm surprised more teams aren't using him.His movepool and stats simply don't work together for the most part.

STAB Gear Grind is pretty much one of the only things Klinklang can do effectively.

It needed more Physical moves.

Cobalt_Latios
14th March 2011, 4:42 AM
Swarm and Hustle. I guess the RNG gods just hate you.
They do, that's how Burgh got the upper hand on me, and that's how I've lost half of my battles. All through those goddamn critical hits. I've gotten them, but about 1/3 as often as I've received them. Although, it was fun as hell to train on Durant's using my newly evolved Krookodile :D.


Tynamo?
Why has it not evolved yet?
Haven't gotten around to it yet. Level 39... it's only at 33 atm. I'll get there, I have an insane amount of patience for level grinding.


Has anyone here had the patience to raise a Ruflett/Vulaby from level 1 to level 54 ingame using them on their team? That's insane, using a baby bird Pokemon for that long...And I have a Mienshao and a Eelektrik on my team and I'm not even at the 8th gyms city. Mienfoo was actually really good until level 50 (which surprised me).
Considering I had to go from level 27 to about 41 to evolve Litwick to Lampent, yes, I have quite the patience. I originally thought it would be hell trying to get them to these levels, but considering when you actually catch them at, it's not half bad (except for Scraggy to Scrafty. That's some intense grinding right there. Managed... twice!).

Also, I'm probably just going to Exp Share Tynamo. Victory Road is proving very nice, and using Lucky Egg on Krookodile went pretty well. Helps that I'm training around the area where that doctor is.

So, now that Krookodile is at level 50, next off... oh! Would you look at that. It's Tynamo :D!

/CL

Pokemon Trainer Blue
14th March 2011, 4:46 AM
I feel insanely overleveled.

Almost to the 8th gym city. Here's my team

-Vanilluxe lv 47
-Mienshao lv 50
-Accelgor lv 45
-Eelektrik lv 43
-Sigilyph lv 43
-Excadrill lv 42

No grinding. At all.

Everything right now hasn't seemed to break level 40 (except maybe Biancas Samurott...I don't remember)

I hope the E4 is actually challenging. I'm honestly surprised that I got a Mienshao pre E4, let alone Eelektric pre Gym 6 :)

Dracoste
14th March 2011, 8:44 AM
much less 54 (Volcorona).

Well, 59 actually...

But it's beter that way, because if you planning on training it to lv. 59 for the frst time you go to the E4 you will have a hard time with it.
Cause Larvesta's Attack is higher than it's Sp. atk it will only learn Physical attacks. Volcarona's next Special attack is learnable at lvl 60, but the next good Special attacks come every 10 levels later. You can of course give it some TMs and let it remember some moves. But still, Lv. 59 before the first time you face the E4. You really have to have a lot of patience for that.

My Larvesta evolved into a Vocarona yesterday actually. The Nimbasa City domes are a great place to train Pokémon.

I'm planning to let her learn:
-Quiver dance
-Bug Buzz
-Hurricane
-Fiery Dance(Heat Wave until she's Lv. 100)

And she got Modest Nature :3

R_N
14th March 2011, 8:53 AM
Speaking of Larvesta & Volcorona, I looked up its egg moves.

Foresight? Harden? Magnet Rise?

BCVM22
14th March 2011, 10:03 AM
I can see some value in Magnet Rise. Five turns of Earthquake immunity is useful for any Pokémon that doesn't resist Ground attacks and considerably more so for a Fire-type.

redroses
14th March 2011, 10:10 AM
I think I like to grind way too much, I just beat the 7th gym and all my 6 pokemon are lv 50 XD But lucky egg and Audino just works way to good.

Charoshi
14th March 2011, 10:28 AM
I did immense grinding (For me anyway) in my white version. My pokemon were higher levels than every single gym leader and the league the first time around.

My current black team is no different, although they are slightly behind the pace of my white team, but that's because I have my full team earlier than I did in white.

And I swear, Audino's only purpose in this game is to get beaten up and have people annoyed at it. It's been fairly annoying finding an Audino every time I'm looking for Pokemon, but I feel so much better after beating it up. xD

palapala
14th March 2011, 10:31 AM
Not using lucky egg for the story is more fun imo. Victory feel more epic when you won with even or lower level team.

I understand that not everyone want to take it slow on the story. Just giving my 2 cents.

(P.O.K.E.M.O.N)
14th March 2011, 10:47 AM
finished the game with a fairly week team :( so tomorow im gonna be training them up harcore

excadrill lvl 60
razor lvl 60
embeor lvl 48
unfeazant lvl 41
samarott lvl 49
fluffee lvl 51

after the hardcore training its gonna be

excadrill lvl 72
razor lvl 70
embeor lvl 71
haxorous lvl 74
fluffee lvl 68
braviary lvl 70

then ill finally face cynthia

wearjo
14th March 2011, 11:18 AM
finally got Black and white :D YAY!!!

Asmoday
14th March 2011, 11:23 AM
finally got Black and white :D YAY!!!

woohoo congrats!!

SasakiThePikachu
14th March 2011, 11:43 AM
You don't have to level Larvestra, catch a full Volcarona, and Deino already comes in a rather nice level, add Lucky Egg or Exp.Share and motivated by its awsome final stage, I hope it won't be that hard.

You do if you get them as eggs ^___^

I just don't see the fun in catching a pokemon past level 40...never have and never will. I like to get hold of 'em early, so when they reach level 100, you KNOW you've put the work in. Hatchlings are hard work, but worth the effort.

I'll be grinding before the E4...I usually do. I don't like to lose, and seeing the spoiler of N and Ghetsis' teams has really put the fear of Arceus into me -__-

MetalFlygon08
14th March 2011, 3:49 PM
Anyone else think Vullaby and Mandibuzz should have also gotten Bone Club and Bonemerang in their movepool? I mean Bonemerang on average does more damage than earthquake, it could've been a gimmicky physical moveset! Bone Rush seems less cool, becuase it's not as exclusive as the former 2 moves.

Seem
14th March 2011, 3:56 PM
^ Could be just me, but I like Bone Club and Boomerang being exclusive to Cubone/Marowak. (:

But perhaps a nice idea, yeah.

R_N
14th March 2011, 4:01 PM
I can see some value in Magnet Rise. Five turns of Earthquake immunity is useful for any Pokémon that doesn't resist Ground attacks and considerably more so for a Fire-type.

yeah, but magnet rise

Normally you are either electric or steel type.
Not...fire/bug moth

cabooseman
14th March 2011, 4:05 PM
Do you guys think it's a good idea to keep leveling Herdier?
I'm not new to Pokemon but I'm still a newb when it comes to EV training/abilities/nature/etc. I just like to catch a pokemon and train. So far I have a team of Oshawatt, Gurdurr, and Herdier. I'm waiting till I can get a good Dark type pokemon, a fire, and dragon.

Blueysicle
14th March 2011, 4:06 PM
yeah, but magnet rise

Normally you are either electric or steel type.
Not...fire/bug moth

Volcarona's inspiration is partially based on the Sun. The Sun has magnetic fields.

waternate
14th March 2011, 4:14 PM
Hey is it just me who is a little underwhelmed with the new pseudo-legendary? I just don't feel Hydreigon lives up to the likes of Salamence, and that Haxorus is a much better Gen V dragon...

MetalFlygon08
14th March 2011, 6:16 PM
Wait until it sweeps you 6-0

I've been running one in random wifi, and it is the comeback kid, Dragon Pulse, Flamethrower, Surf, U-turn, Modest or Timid. It sweeps back 3 pokemon when I'm on the brink.

Aurath8
14th March 2011, 7:03 PM
Volcarona's inspiration is partially based on the Sun. The Sun has magnetic fields.

Still doesn't make it any useful when you're half bug type.
Now if it gave a Rock immunity...hehehe

Dracoste
14th March 2011, 9:13 PM
Still doesn't make it any useful when you're half bug type.
Now if it gave a Rock immunity...hehehe

True, but Earthquake is a strong Physical attack, and Larvesta's Def stat isn't exactly it's highest stat. And every immunity is welcome, even for only a few turns.

KickAsh
14th March 2011, 10:09 PM
So, first time through Victory Road... I now officially hate being against Durant. What the hell's it's ability? That thing has been able to critical me almost 50% of the time! I think one of them almost managed to sweep my team!
I suffered the same problem. One Durant managed to KO two of my Pokemon (granted they were already in the yellow) and if it weren't for Victini I don't think I'd ever be able to take them down.
It's actually a pretty good Pokemon, though, when you look at it. It's movepool is pretty good, and it's stats are even better.
And it gets Baton Pass as an Egg move...and it learns Iron Defense and Agility through level up. That combined with its Speed and monster Defense, Durant may be a nice support Pokemon, surprisingly. Although it's probably a better physical sweeper, based on the personal experience I've had with the beast.

R_N
14th March 2011, 10:27 PM
I love Durant, he's so neat looking. I think I might trade over a Durant egg with a Vullaby egg whenever I play black further down the line.

KickAsh
14th March 2011, 10:59 PM
I love Durant, he's so neat looking. I think I might trade over a Durant egg with a Vullaby egg whenever I play black further down the line.
I was not aware of Durant's existence until about 90 minutes ago, but I'm glad I ran into it. I agree, it is a neat looking Pokemon. One of the cooler looking 'mons this gen, and definitely one of the best Bugs off all time.
And on that note, does anyone else think that Bug-types this gen are mind-blowingly cool? They're all so awesome and well-designed. Durant, Accelgor, Escavalier, Galvantula, Scolipede (EDIT: And to a lesser extent, Leavanny)...this is the best generation for Bug-types yet.

R_N
14th March 2011, 11:05 PM
And not just for new species of bugs, but new moves.
<3 Quiver Dance.

Dracoste
14th March 2011, 11:23 PM
Quiver Dance is just an amazing attack. It raises Sp. Atk Sp. Def and Speed! It's the bigger special brother of Dragon Dance! However, not much Pokémon learn it. nd isn't breedable towards other Pokémon...But it stays an amazing attack for those who can learn it.

Pokemon Trainer Blue
15th March 2011, 12:02 AM
Anyone else disappointed with Klinklangs base stats and move pool? 70 Special Attack and 100 Attack...The only thing it can do decently well is STAB Gear Grind.

Redstars89
15th March 2011, 12:30 AM
Anyone else disappointed with Klinklangs base stats and move pool? 70 Special Attack and 100 Attack...The only thing it can do decently well is STAB Gear Grind.

No, he is awesome. I caught an Adamant one with decent IV's and EV trained it with 252 attack, 132 HP, 124 Speed. After one gear boost he can outspeed most pokes and his Stab gear grind is simply awesome against substitutes. I'm not disappointed at all. Not having earthquake is the only thing that annoys me. However access to thunderwave and toxic is great for filler moves. Give the guy a chance. For some reason I see no one using him even in game.

KickAsh
15th March 2011, 12:33 AM
^I had no expectations for Klinklang, so no I wasn't disappointed. Nope. My suspicions were confirmed.

XxDeLtAxX
15th March 2011, 12:33 AM
can someone please tell me if a snivy with a modest nature is good to start off with?

Typhlosionvsworld
15th March 2011, 12:34 AM
can someone please tell me if a snivy with a modest nature is good to start off with?

Yes, actually all the new starters are good.

rocky505
15th March 2011, 12:45 AM
can someone please tell me if a snivy with a modest nature is good to start off with? Only if it has a good Hidden Power type like Fire,Ice,Water,Electric. A physical one would be better due to it's physical movepool barely being better. But the Best nature maybe Timid,Bold or Calm.

XxDeLtAxX
15th March 2011, 12:47 AM
very well, then what starter do u suggest I choose? and should i keep it or reset? (Still at the beginning)

Felix Thunderheart
15th March 2011, 1:03 AM
I don't know if anyone said this, but I LOVE HOW THEY DID SLEEPING POKEMON EYES

MetalFlygon08
15th March 2011, 1:19 AM
Anyone notice Durant's antenae are nails?

Snipehsheep
15th March 2011, 2:23 AM
very well, then what starter do u suggest I choose? and should i keep it or reset? (Still at the beginning)

Just choose whatever one you think looks best. In-game doesn't really matter, and unless they have dream world abilities, they can't do much in OU. (Unless you plan on doing UU/NU)

Pokemon Trainer Blue
15th March 2011, 2:47 AM
No, he is awesome. I caught an Adamant one with decent IV's and EV trained it with 252 attack, 132 HP, 124 Speed. After one gear boost he can outspeed most pokes and his Stab gear grind is simply awesome against substitutes. I'm not disappointed at all. Not having earthquake is the only thing that annoys me. However access to thunderwave and toxic is great for filler moves. Give the guy a chance. For some reason I see no one using him even in game.You just proved my point. STAB Gear Grind IS all he can do exceptionally well. No other coverage.

It couldve used Wild Charge or something...Sadly it cant even learn that

Nostalgic Hybrid
15th March 2011, 3:12 AM
very well, then what starter do u suggest I choose? and should i keep it or reset? (Still at the beginning)

There are very few water-types this gen and even less good ones, so Oshawott isn't bad to start with. It also takes a while to get a decent water-type in the game.

Snivy is good. He far outclasses most Unova Pokemon in speed. Unlike Sinnoh, most Pokemon this gen are have slow base speed. Not that offensive, but kinda bulky.

Tepig gets fighting STAB, which is nice, but he has bad defenses and is slooooooooooooooooooow. Also, there is Scrafty (who is a boss) and therefor all other fighting-type are henceforth ignored.

Dark Latios
15th March 2011, 3:30 AM
I was not aware of Durant's existence until about 90 minutes ago, but I'm glad I ran into it. I agree, it is a neat looking Pokemon. One of the cooler looking 'mons this gen, and definitely one of the best Bugs off all time.
And on that note, does anyone else think that Bug-types this gen are mind-blowingly cool? They're all so awesome and well-designed. Durant, Accelgor, Escavalier, Galvantula, Scolipede (EDIT: And to a lesser extent, Leavanny)...this is the best generation for Bug-types yet.

Yes, yes, and yes. Joltik made me go "AWWWWWWWW!" Like, I didn't even look at its stats I saw it and wanted it right away. :) I also really like scolipede. It looks beast.

R_N
15th March 2011, 3:32 AM
You just proved my point. STAB Gear Grind IS all he can do exceptionally well. No other coverage.

It couldve used Wild Charge or something...Sadly it cant even learn that

But he doesn't really need anything else; even if it would be a really really nice bonus

Electivire#1
15th March 2011, 3:35 AM
Why is there so many people on the GTS wanting a Zekrom and a Reshiram level 9 and under!?

Blazios
15th March 2011, 3:43 AM
Why is there so many people on the GTS wanting a Zekrom and a Reshiram level 9 and under!?

Because they like to show off and are jerks.

Venomrec
15th March 2011, 3:44 AM
Because they like to show off and are jerks.

How is that showing off?

Blazios
15th March 2011, 3:47 AM
How is that showing off?

So they can put some hacked shiny up with no risk of losing it.

Legendary Dreams
15th March 2011, 3:59 AM
Does Magic Guard overshadow Overcoat? I read up on both and it seems Magic Guard is an advanced version of Overcoat.

If it is, its a shame then. I spent over an hour SR'ing Solosis until I got one with decent IV stats. (I think it has 30 Spatk, 28 Speed and 20-something HP IVs), but it has Overcoat.

And I EV-trained it in speed despite knowing that line's speed is terrible. Probably a bad decision.

ForeverFlame
15th March 2011, 4:11 AM
I`m tired of people asking for level 9 Zekroms and Reshirams. Nintendo needs to fix the GTS so you can`t ask for impossible Pokemon (and they`ve needed to do so for over four years now).

R_N
15th March 2011, 4:13 AM
So they can put some hacked shiny up with no risk of losing it.

I have yet to see a single shiny on the GTS

I have seen several dozen different Zekrom/Reshiram wants, though.

I prefer the "People are idiots and genuinely think their common Pokemon is worth it"

Redstars89
15th March 2011, 4:13 AM
You just proved my point. STAB Gear Grind IS all he can do exceptionally well. No other coverage.

It couldve used Wild Charge or something...Sadly it cant even learn that

You do know he can use volt switch to get out of a situation where gear grind isn't effective right?

DarumakkaImposter
15th March 2011, 4:43 AM
Tepig gets fighting STAB, which is nice, but he has bad defenses and is slooooooooooooooooooow. Also, there is Scrafty (who is a boss) and therefor all other fighting-type are henceforth ignored.

isnt scrafty's type an oximoron? dark is weak against fightning but hes dark and fightning. o.0

DarumakkaImposter
15th March 2011, 4:44 AM
You do know he can use volt switch to get out of a situation where gear grind isn't effective right?

thats what i taught mine but im gonna catch another one b/c i deleted gear grind

DarumakkaImposter
15th March 2011, 4:46 AM
I suffered the same problem. One Durant managed to KO two of my Pokemon (granted they were already in the yellow) and if it weren't for Victini I don't think I'd ever be able to take them down.
It's actually a pretty good Pokemon, though, when you look at it. It's movepool is pretty good, and it's stats are even better.
And it gets Baton Pass as an Egg move...and it learns Iron Defense and Agility through level up. That combined with its Speed and monster Defense, Durant may be a nice support Pokemon, surprisingly. Although it's probably a better physical sweeper, based on the personal experience I've had with the beast.

im catching a durant for my steel team. when i was in victory road it koed 4 of my pokemon until i put victini in there to kill it

123jeffrey
15th March 2011, 4:46 AM
My team atm is:
Serperior
Panpour
Victini
Conkeldurr
Unfezant
Zoruark.

I think i'll replace victini with reshiram later, because my victini has horrible ivs.

Blazios
15th March 2011, 5:09 AM
I have yet to see a single shiny on the GTS


I've seen at least 8 B/W shinies all asking for Reshiram or Zekrom under Level 9.

Mr.Munchlax
15th March 2011, 5:47 AM
The list of comparisons is for Mr Munchlax's team. In SS or HG he used those Pokemon and now in BW he wants to use 'similar' Pokemon.

And, speaking of said list, Togepi and Litwick don't look much alike... :P Sure, they're both cute, but they're not all that similar apart from that. But I'm not too sure what could be a replacement. Woobat, because Togepi has something to do with love, doesn't it? And Woobat has a big heart shaped nose? And they're both really cute and evolve by happiness?

Thank you for explaining it, and it was Soul Silver. Anyway, I thought of Woobat for Togepit but I think Zorua would be a closer equivalent because they can bothe only be obtained once and learn Extrasensory through an egg move

Dracoste
15th March 2011, 7:55 AM
thats what i taught mine but im gonna catch another one b/c i deleted gear grind

Why are you catching a new one? You can easily let it remember the move in Mistralton city.

Nostalgic Hybrid
15th March 2011, 9:03 AM
isnt scrafty's type an oximoron? dark is weak against fightning but hes dark and fightning. o.0

Excadrill is weak against ground but it's ground and steel. Your point?

yeminied
15th March 2011, 9:15 AM
very well, then what starter do u suggest I choose? and should i keep it or reset? (Still at the beginning)

As said any starter will serve you well in game.

I can from personal experience tell you that Snivy is just a boss at taking hits.

My Servine was just eating up Burgh's Leavanny's Bug Opposition while it was holding the Eviolate. Give it Leech Seed and it makes up just about as much health as it loses.

SasakiThePikachu
15th March 2011, 1:24 PM
I prefer the "People are idiots and genuinely think their common Pokemon is worth it"

^ This.

I HATE the bug types this gen. Not because they're bad. Because they're too freakin good. My Deino keeps dying. Sadly he's timid and his defence doth sucketh, so one Bug Bite and it's 'buh-bye Milo'. *grits teeth* I can't wait until he's a Hydreigon with flamethrower. He shall have his revenge >: D

Whoever mentioned the sleeping pokemon's eyes being shut, yes, adorable isn't it?! I also love how they slow down the animations to half speed. It just makes it that much more realistic.

Hey, does anyone know if you can buy stat-boosting medicines at any point in this game (carbos etc)?? I'm up to the 5th gym badge and no sign of them yet. It's really annoying to either collect those feather thingies or have to go through battle subway (which I suck at), and my pokemon badly need some steroid boosting...

Dracoste
15th March 2011, 2:42 PM
Hey, does anyone know if you can buy stat-boosting medicines at any point in this game (carbos etc)?? I'm up to the 5th gym badge and no sign of them yet. It's really annoying to either collect those feather thingies or have to go through battle subway (which I suck at), and my pokemon badly need some steroid boosting...

You can buy them in Shopping Mall Nine, just before Opelucid City, where the 8th gym is. they are 9800 each. So I think it will take a while before you get there...

Abracadabra
15th March 2011, 2:48 PM
I used only 1 non-legendary and non-uber pokemon lv 67 to sweep the whole team of Champion Alder (which has 5 pokemon lv 75 and 1 pokemon lv 77). Is this strategy good??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iw9w15ZULlQ

MagnetonNr1
15th March 2011, 2:59 PM
Has any of you ever used... Garbodor?

Mario with Lasers
15th March 2011, 3:03 PM
Because they like to show off and are jerks.


I have yet to see a single shiny on the GTS

I have seen several dozen different Zekrom/Reshiram wants, though.

I prefer the "People are idiots and genuinely think their common Pokemon is worth it"


I've seen at least 8 B/W shinies all asking for Reshiram or Zekrom under Level 9.


Guys, have you seriously forgotten people do that since D/P to clone their pokémon...

Krishnath
15th March 2011, 3:04 PM
isnt scrafty's type an oximoron? dark is weak against fightning but hes dark and fightning. o.0
Yes, but it is immune to Psychic, the Fighting types biggest weakness.

R_N
15th March 2011, 4:52 PM
Guys, have you seriously forgotten people do that since D/P to clone their pokémon...

I'm pretty sure that glitch was fixed

....

probably

....

was it?

rocky505
15th March 2011, 4:55 PM
I'm pretty sure that glitch was fixed

....

probably

....

was it? Yes it was but there is still something that can clone which is called a thingwhichshouldnotbenamed.

R_N
15th March 2011, 4:56 PM
^ This.

Whoever mentioned the sleeping pokemon's eyes being shut, yes, adorable isn't it?! I also love how they slow down the animations to half speed. It just makes it that much more realistic.

Oddly, Cofagrigus doesn't close his eyes.

ForeverFlame
15th March 2011, 5:06 PM
I'm pretty sure that glitch was fixed

....

probably

....

was it?

The cloning glitch was fixed for Platinum and HGSS. It's still present in DP, and it might be present in BW? I don't think anyone's tested it yet.

(and it might be present in BW, since BW was in production before Platinum and HGSS were)

randomgamer021
15th March 2011, 5:23 PM
do any of you know if its possible to get a shiny zorua from the in-fame event?

Krishnath
15th March 2011, 5:25 PM
do any of you know if its possible to get a shiny zorua from the in-fame event?

The answer is: No, it is not possible to get a shiny Zorua from the event. If you want a shiny Zorua, you need to breed for it.

randomgamer021
15th March 2011, 5:27 PM
thanks, is there any way for me to increase my chances of getting a shiny one from the egg

Krishnath
15th March 2011, 5:31 PM
thanks, is there any way for me to increase my chances of getting a shiny one from the egg
Yes, breed your Zorua with another pokemon from another language.

For example, if your Zorua is from an english language game, breed it with a pokemon that is from a non-english language game (such as Japanese, Spanish, or French). It increases the chance from 1/8192 to 6/8192, which is quite an increase.

Will-powered Spriter
15th March 2011, 5:31 PM
Oddly, Cofagrigus doesn't close his eyes.

There's a few other oddities, Kangaskhan and it's child blink at the same time as each other, and Probopass blinks using its hat, which is especially awesome.

randomgamer021
15th March 2011, 5:35 PM
thanks also is it possible for the event zorua to be female?

Dracoste
15th March 2011, 5:42 PM
thanks also is it possible for the event zorua to be female?

No, the event Zorua is always male and the event Zoroark is always female.

Krishnath
15th March 2011, 5:43 PM
thanks also is it possible for the event zorua to be female?

According to the info found here (http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/relocator.shtml), the Zorua is always male, while the Zoroark is always female.

LexSuicune
15th March 2011, 5:57 PM
Loving the details of the animation, I just wish they didn't look so pixalted up close. I guess in time the designs will improve, hopefully.

Aurath8
15th March 2011, 6:50 PM
There's a few other oddities, Kangaskhan and it's child blink at the same time as each other, and Probopass blinks using its hat, which is especially awesome.

Watchog keeps his eyes open too.
But the big mystery here is...
What does a sleeping Uxie look like?

Dracoste
15th March 2011, 6:52 PM
But the big mystery here is...
What does a sleeping Uxie look like?

Probably the same as a sleeping Musharna.

Cobalt_Latios
15th March 2011, 6:56 PM
Well after my fight against ol' Ghetsis today, DD Scrafty is ridiculous if you can manage to set up properly without getting by Super Effective moves (as those usually tend to KO it no matter what :/).

I mean, after about 4 Dragon Dances, I outsped his Hydreigon (the meanest of the bunch), and OHKOd it with Hi Jump Kick. seeing as I have other Scraggy of similar move combos, I'll have to record that once I redo it for Black... even though I'll most likely have a different team then anyways.

Just... wow. I knew he was going to be amazing, but I didn't realize just how good until I actually tried it :D.

Give it a shot! Surprise people who don't expect it!

The experiment was a success ([insert 'Still Alive' lyrics here]).

/CL

cabooseman
15th March 2011, 7:00 PM
Well after my fight against ol' Ghetsis today, DD Scrafty is ridiculous if you can manage to set up properly without getting by Super Effective moves (as those usually tend to KO it no matter what :/).

I mean, after about 4 Dragon Dances, I outsped his Hydreigon (the meanest of the bunch), and OHKOd it with Hi Jump Kick. seeing as I have other Scraggy of similar move combos, I'll have to record that once I redo it for Black... even though I'll most likely have a different team then anyways.

Just... wow. I knew he was going to be amazing, but I didn't realize just how good until I actually tried it :D.

Give it a shot! Surprise people who don't expect it!

The experiment was a success ([insert 'Still Alive' lyrics here]).

/CL


Scraggy is quite strong. I used it for a bit but gave up on him.

Dracoste
15th March 2011, 7:06 PM
Well after my fight against ol' Ghetsis today, DD Scrafty is ridiculous if you can manage to set up properly without getting by Super Effective moves (as those usually tend to KO it no matter what :/).

I mean, after about 4 Dragon Dances, I outsped his Hydreigon (the meanest of the bunch), and OHKOd it with Hi Jump Kick. seeing as I have other Scraggy of similar move combos, I'll have to record that once I redo it for Black... even though I'll most likely have a different team then anyways.

Just... wow. I knew he was going to be amazing, but I didn't realize just how good until I actually tried it :D.

Give it a shot! Surprise people who don't expect it!

The experiment was a success ([insert 'Still Alive' lyrics here]).

/CL

Ghetsis is really strong. He defeated me 2 times.
And I'm very glad that the bug types are strong this time. Without the speed and the power of my Scolipede, I geuss without him I would never beaten his Hydreigon.
Other of his Pokémon were easier. Bisharp sliced Cofagrigus as if it's defense was nothing. Defeated his Bouffalant with his recoil damage from Head Charge and the defense and Rocky Helmet of my Audino. Bisharp had no change to attack because of my Cinccino's Wake-Up Slap.
I'm glad I won from him without using a Legendary Pokémon.

Aurath8
15th March 2011, 7:06 PM
Probably the same as a sleeping Musharna.

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/254/3/6/musharna_by_aonik-d2yibwy.jpg

I doubt that.

Pamizard
15th March 2011, 7:16 PM
You know what I think. I keep hearing that Druddigon (u know the red face dragon) isnt good at all cause he doesnt have dragon dance or be able to learn swords dance. I think he's a great tank cause his defenses are awesome. He would make a great trick roomer too for trick room teams

CaptainCombusken
15th March 2011, 7:18 PM
Oh my goodness... gen 4 is ridiculously slow. I'm currently on HeartGold deleting HMs so I can Pokeshift, and I always in all my games have the text on Fast. Normally, the text appears normal speed for me on HeartGold, but I've playing White for too long obviously, because when I loaded it up, I was really confused as to why my text was so slow.

Oh yeah, btw, I completed it. That training thing with Simisear and Excadrill didn't go to plan. Whatever, I've got plenty of time now...
I'm lovin' White forest. Levelling up those Pokemon is really easy. Give it an Exp share and just fight anything on route 14, I believe. Level 15 in one shot, and I think that was the weakest Pokemon on the entire route. Wurmple evolved easily.
I AM annoyed, slightly, that no one I know likes Pokemon. No new Pokemon for my Forest...

Oh, and Scrafty is too cool for school. Hitting three members of Ghetis' team for Super-effective? Yes please. And this is without using Dragon Dance.

PokemonOwn
15th March 2011, 7:21 PM
Who is using Unfezant? I used it in my Japanese White, and it really sucked. I hope Grey/Twilight corrects it's movepool.

Disgruntled Goat
15th March 2011, 7:30 PM
Why is there so many people on the GTS wanting a Zekrom and a Reshiram level 9 and under!?

Possibly to activate the trade/evolution glitch, where if you put a Pokemon (that evolves by trading) up for trade, then do one other trade, then bring your Pokemon back, it will evolve. They ask for level 9 Zekrom so it *doesn't* get traded.

I don't know if that glitch still exists though.


I`m tired of people asking for level 9 Zekroms and Reshirams. Nintendo needs to fix the GTS so you can`t ask for impossible Pokemon (and they`ve needed to do so for over four years now).

Um, level 9 Zekrom/Reshiram isn't impossible. They might do an event or game in the future where you can get one at level 1. Remember Regigigas in Platinum?

rocky505
15th March 2011, 7:50 PM
Who is using Unfezant? I used it in my Japanese White, and it really sucked. I hope Grey/Twilight corrects it's movepool. Yes it does suck badly. It is outclassed by all the other flying types (Even Mandibuzz!)

Poke_Mania97
15th March 2011, 7:57 PM
is it me, dont get me wrong, but does tynamo look kinda like sperm.

Cobalt_Latios
15th March 2011, 8:00 PM
Oh, and Scrafty is too cool for school. Hitting three members of Ghetis' team for Super-effective? Yes please. And this is without using Dragon Dance.
Scrafty's speed stat is mediocre to the point of being rather slow compared to most. I just needed a stat boosting move that would help him out, and as it turns out, DD does it for both Attack and Speed.

Might try the other one I have with Bulk Up instead, as I notice most of the Super Effective hits are from Physical based moves rather than special.

/CL

Dracoste
15th March 2011, 8:29 PM
is it me, dont get me wrong, but does tynamo look kinda like sperm.

It looks more like a leech to me...okay...perhaps just a itsy tiny bitsy bit

I can actually see it flying towards someonse face and keep stuck on it and then that guy screams "Get it off! Get it off! Get it off!" and then it gives an electric shock and flies aways^_^

GaZsTiC
15th March 2011, 8:34 PM
is it me, dont get me wrong, but does tynamo look kinda like sperm.

I never really thought of it that way. I...guess it does. Just a little.

BeastMasterLegend992
15th March 2011, 8:39 PM
^^I always thought he looked like that as well

PokemonOwn
15th March 2011, 8:44 PM
What is honestly better, Joltik and it's evolutions, or Kilink and it's evolutions?

CaptainCombusken
15th March 2011, 9:12 PM
Joltik and Galvantula any day. I may be a little biased, but Galvantula gets STAB from its Electric attacks, Klink doesn't.
Their stats are roughly even, but Galvantula has superior speed allowing the possibility of a good special sweeper. Plus, Galvantula's special moveset reflects its high special attack. In Klinklang's Moveset, only one move is Physical, the rest being Special, even though its attack is a lot better than its Special attack. On top of this, you have the issue that the only physical moves Klinklang learns are normal typed, with the exception of Gear grind and Rock Smash. And the type coverage of Klinklang is really not very good.
Meanwhile, Galvantula's moveset is fantastic, its type coverage is a lot better. I will agree that its type coverage isn't fantastic, but you have some good options for some good strong attacks. Plus it's really useful against the legendaries. Thunder Wave is really good, it means that the Pokemon is slower, more likely to be captured and has a chnace or failing their attack too, which in some cases could serve you well (like catching Terrakion the first time you go into victory road like I did). Also, its attacks themselves to put the legendaries, against particularly the Musketters, down to the Red, are good; doing neutral damage.
Adding to this their visual appeal. Honestly, what would you rather have; some plain boring machine that's just a copy of its prevos with a little bit extra added on, or a Cute Electric Tarantula.

Question: I K.Od Thundurus by accident. Will he come back or not?

Dracoste
15th March 2011, 9:19 PM
Question: I K.Od Thundurus by accident. Will he come back or not?

I'm not sure, but with other Legendarys when you KO'd them and then defeat the E4 you can Re-battle them. So it could be possible that's also the case with Thundurus/Tornadus

KickAsh
15th March 2011, 9:23 PM
Yes, yes, and yes. Joltik made me go "AWWWWWWWW!" Like, I didn't even look at its stats I saw it and wanted it right away. I also really like scolipede. It looks beast.
I saw Galvantula back when it was one of the first Gen V Pokemon to be released. As soon as I saw it, I knew I wanted one. Immediately. Not only is the typing super cool, but look at it. That spider is seriously awesome. And yeah, Scolipede is a boss.

isshoni
15th March 2011, 10:18 PM
I saw Galvantula back when it was one of the first Gen V Pokemon to be released. As soon as I saw it, I knew I wanted one. Immediately. Not only is the typing super cool, but look at it. That spider is seriously awesome. And yeah, Scolipede is a boss.

I still think Ariados is way cooler when it comes to arachnids, but Galvantula's pretty cool too. What bothers me is that when it was first revealed I immediately thought of it as the first stage of its line, and to me it looked like it was still going to evolve. I was honestly surprised when I saw Joltik.

KickAsh
15th March 2011, 11:03 PM
I still think Ariados is way cooler when it comes to arachnids, but Galvantula's pretty cool too. What bothers me is that when it was first revealed I immediately thought of it as the first stage of its line, and to me it looked like it was still going to evolve. I was honestly surprised when I saw Joltik.
Oh really? I didn't do that. I actually thought Galvantula might be a single-stage Pokemon, so I'm glad we got Joltik as an pre-evo, because an adorable little mite that evolves into such an awesome spider is a great evolutionary line. But now that you put the idea into my head, I'm definitely gonna imagine what awesome Pokemon Galvantula could have evolved into had it been a first stage.
EDIT: It's tough to say who the superior spider is, Galvantula or Ariados. Statwise, Galvantula wins, but design-wise, it's definitely a toss-up.

R_N
15th March 2011, 11:23 PM
Loving the details of the animation, I just wish they didn't look so pixalted up close. I guess in time the designs will improve, hopefully.

This isn't something that can really "go away," by the way.
It's a sprite. Pixel art. It is made of pixels. No matter how good the pixel art is, any manner of zooming will show the pixels up close.

Even the best looking of sprite work will have this problem.

Cobalt_Latios
15th March 2011, 11:44 PM
Oh really? I didn't do that. I actually thought Galvantula might be a single-stage Pokemon, so I'm glad we got Joltik as an pre-evo, because an adorable little mite that evolves into such an awesome spider is a great evolutionary line. But now that you put the idea into my head, I'm definitely gonna imagine what awesome Pokemon Galvantula could have evolved into had it been a first stage.
EDIT: It's tough to say who the superior spider is, Galvantula or Ariados. Statwise, Galvantula wins, but design-wise, it's definitely a toss-up.
Put it this way, when you can make a tarantula, of all things, cute, you know you've accomplished something.

I can handle spiders... it's tarantula's I have issues with, and even then, I'm actually rather fond of Joltik/Galvantula.

/CL

realarcastform
15th March 2011, 11:47 PM
Question, if we can't transfer Notchy Pichu even into Black/White what was it's purpose? They better have genetic flaws in the 3rd game.

lindsy95
15th March 2011, 11:53 PM
NEP was promotion for the movie, nothing more.

mahaccount
16th March 2011, 12:38 AM
anyone wanna trade friend cpdes message me

Pokemon Trainer Blue
16th March 2011, 12:41 AM
Is anyone using Cryogonal on their team?

He's extremely frail, with that 30 base defense. Sure its got speed and ecial attack, but that defense just ruins it.

XXD17
16th March 2011, 12:55 AM
Is anyone using Cryogonal on their team?

He's extremely frail, with that 30 base defense. Sure its got speed and ecial attack, but that defense just ruins it.

It does have dual screen capability as well as acid armor...with its speed, it can set up either to make up for its lack of defense...

R_N
16th March 2011, 12:58 AM
Is anyone using Cryogonal on their team?

He's extremely frail, with that 30 base defense. Sure its got speed and ecial attack, but that defense just ruins it.

And it has great Special Defense

just don't put it against physical attackers, or kill them with its great speed & special attack first

ZaNOliEZ
16th March 2011, 1:28 AM
Can anybody teach me how to ev train?

KickAsh
16th March 2011, 1:28 AM
Put it this way, when you can make a tarantula, of all things, cute, you know you've accomplished something.

I can handle spiders... it's tarantula's I have issues with, and even then, I'm actually rather fond of Joltik/Galvantula.
I agree. Spiders should not have hair. Tarantulas have hair. That's just not cool, nature.

ur2ez4me2bro
16th March 2011, 1:38 AM
Can anybody teach me how to ev train?

Train on Pokemon that give more stat boosts when you lvl up to boost your stats.

Grei
16th March 2011, 1:47 AM
Scrafty's speed stat is mediocre to the point of being rather slow compared to most. I just needed a stat boosting move that would help him out, and as it turns out, DD does it for both Attack and Speed.

Might try the other one I have with Bulk Up instead, as I notice most of the Super Effective hits are from Physical based moves rather than special.

/CL

Does Scrafty get a Sp. Atk boost move?

Anyway, Bulk Up Scrafty is awesome. I haven't tried Dragon Dance Scrafty, but Bulk Up Scrafty is pretty great. A little more defense never hurts, especially with how high Scrafty's already is.

KickAsh
16th March 2011, 1:55 AM
Does Scrafty get a Sp. Atk boost move?

Anyway, Bulk Up Scrafty is awesome. I haven't tried Dragon Dance Scrafty, but Bulk Up Scrafty is pretty great. A little more defense never hurts, especially with how high Scrafty's already is.
Yeah Scrafty gets a Sp. Atk boost in Work Up, which also raises its Attack.
But honestly, Bulk Up > Work Up, because Scrafty gets like 7 special moves, and most of his movepool is physical. That makes the Sp.Atk boost of Work Up pointless, unless you're running a special sweeper Scrafty (which doesn't work all too well--he's got a 45 base Sp.Atk). Bulk Up on the other hand, raises Defense, and one can ALWAYS use more Defense.


Is anyone using Cryogonal on their team?

He's extremely frail, with that 30 base defense. Sure its got speed and ecial attack, but that defense just ruins it.
Use Cryogonal to set up. It can wield both Reflect and Light Screen (and learns them through level up!), and it has access to Mist, Confuse Ray, and Toxic. Plus, it's fast and can take its fair share of special hits (base 135 Sp.Def!), meaning it is a really good set-up Pokemon, and not much else.

DarumakkaImposter
16th March 2011, 2:38 AM
Well after my fight against ol' Ghetsis today, DD Scrafty is ridiculous if you can manage to set up properly without getting by Super Effective moves (as those usually tend to KO it no matter what :/).

I mean, after about 4 Dragon Dances, I outsped his Hydreigon (the meanest of the bunch), and OHKOd it with Hi Jump Kick. seeing as I have other Scraggy of similar move combos, I'll have to record that once I redo it for Black... even though I'll most likely have a different team then anyways.

Just... wow. I knew he was going to be amazing, but I didn't realize just how good until I actually tried it :D.

Give it a shot! Surprise people who don't expect it!

The experiment was a success ([insert 'Still Alive' lyrics here]).

/CL

its odd b/c on my japanese white he defeated me like 6 times but on my english white it only took me once to beat him

XxDeLtAxX
16th March 2011, 3:23 AM
is a victini with a modest nature good?

MetalFlygon08
16th March 2011, 3:47 AM
I thought Joltik and Galvantula were based on ticks...especially after reading some dex entrys.

Grei
16th March 2011, 3:54 AM
I thought Joltik and Galvantula were based on ticks...especially after reading some dex entrys.

Joltik is.


Joltik that live in cities have learned a technique for sucking electricity from the outlets in houses.

They attach themselves to large-bodied Pokémon and absorb static electricity, which they store in an electric pouch.

Sounds very tick-like to me.

Galvantula is definitely a tarantula, though.

Cobalt_Latios
16th March 2011, 4:57 AM
I agree. Spiders should not have hair. Tarantulas have hair. That's just not cool, nature.
It's not only that. Same reason for the Porcupine Puffer Fish discomfort. And yet, Qwilfish (being based off one) doesn't bother me that much.


Does Scrafty get a Sp. Atk boost move?

Anyway, Bulk Up Scrafty is awesome. I haven't tried Dragon Dance Scrafty, but Bulk Up Scrafty is pretty great. A little more defense never hurts, especially with how high Scrafty's already is.
Put it this way, Speed is Scrafty's 2nd lowest stat. Using DD is basically increasing that while, increasing his decent Attack stat. This guy already has fantastic defences (which I was very impressed with).

Bulk Up will be very interesting to try out, indeed.


Yeah Scrafty gets a Sp. Atk boost in Work Up, which also raises its Attack.
But honestly, Bulk Up > Work Up, because Scrafty gets like 7 special moves, and most of his movepool is physical. That makes the Sp.Atk boost of Work Up pointless, unless you're running a special sweeper Scrafty (which doesn't work all too well--he's got a 45 base Sp.Atk). Bulk Up on the other hand, raises Defense, and one can ALWAYS use more Defense.
And Scrafty already has that in spades.


its odd b/c on my japanese white he defeated me like 6 times but on my english white it only took me once to beat him
I believe it's a language barrier. Think about it; for most of the game, you don't really understand all that much because it's in a different language, yet because you think it's following the same generic formula (this time it isn't completely following it), you "interpret" what's going on and just use that to push forward. You can't really experiment and do certain other things because the different language prevents you from knowing certain key tidbits that may be useful.

So, because of that, you may have had a bit more trouble because you were going based on what you probably already knew. Which I don't completely blame you for; it could happen to anyone who doesn't understand Japanese/foreign language.

It also depends on what team you had.

/CL

palapala
16th March 2011, 5:08 AM
Are there any way to reduce EV currently in white and black?

I searched, but end up with mixed answer. Would be great if someone give a clear answer. TY

O.J. da Juiceman
16th March 2011, 5:43 AM
I just caught Kyurem, is an IV spread of 29/28/27/4/16/26 with a timid nature good? Kind of bummed about the special attack.

DarumakkaImposter
16th March 2011, 5:53 AM
It's not only that. Same reason for the I believe it's a language barrier. Think about it; for most of the game, you don't really understand all that much because it's in a different language, yet because you think it's following the same generic formula (this time it isn't completely following it), you "interpret" what's going on and just use that to push forward. You can't really experiment and do certain other things because the different language prevents you from knowing certain key tidbits that may be useful.

So, because of that, you may have had a bit more trouble because you were going based on what you probably already knew. Which I don't completely blame you for; it could happen to anyone who doesn't understand Japanese/foreign language.

It also depends on what team you had.

/CL

i had
Emboar lv.62
Zekrom lv.52
heres where the bad part is
Boldore lv.47
basculin lv.41
rufflett lv.38

well i didnt have any idea what was going on and i didnt know that id have to battle n and ghetsis so i was not prepared

ForeverFlame
16th March 2011, 6:10 AM
Level 62? My entire party was Level 45 and I beat Ghetsis after stalling with Hyper Potions and getting his Hydreigon to Struggle itself to death.

Cobalt_Latios
16th March 2011, 6:14 AM
i had
Emboar lv.62
Zekrom lv.52
heres where the bad part is
Boldore lv.47
basculin lv.41
rufflett lv.38
Hmm... I see.


well i didnt have any idea what was going on and i didnt know that id have to battle n and ghetsis so i was not prepared
Yeah, this seemed to catch many people off guard. I mentioned it back in my previous post.

Now that you do know what was going to happen, I'm sure you were more prepared for it.

The main reason I even went ahead with that was mainly after seeing so many videos of people having issues with taking him down. Once I got a rough idea on things and found the suitable Pokemon with the right ability, the rest sort of came naturally.

edit: for comparison, knowing that the E4 could be battled in any order, I had set myself 12 Pokemon that I could choose from to see which would have the better effect. All at or slightly above level 50. Considering I used Scrafty for about half of the E4, it got most of the experience.

Like the saying goes, "knowing is half the battle".

/CL

DarumakkaImposter
16th March 2011, 6:34 AM
Level 62? My entire party was Level 45 and I beat Ghetsis after stalling with Hyper Potions and getting his Hydreigon to Struggle itself to death.
i used emboar TONS. he evolved a bit before driftveil. i think it was in the clod strorage

Hmm... I see.


Yeah, this seemed to catch many people off guard. I mentioned it back in my previous post.

Now that you do know what was going to happen, I'm sure you were more prepared for it.

The main reason I even went ahead with that was mainly after seeing so many videos of people having issues with taking him down. Once I got a rough idea on things and found the suitable Pokemon with the right ability, the rest sort of came naturally.

edit: for comparison, knowing that the E4 could be battled in any order, I had set myself 12 Pokemon that I could choose from to see which would have the better effect. All at or slightly above level 50. Considering I used Scrafty for about half of the E4, it got most of the experience.

Like the saying goes, "knowing is half the battle".

/CL

lol yah. i was way more prpeared for the battle this time around. im actually suprised that i beat him with level 50-52 pokemon. i also had a haxorus which helped tons. it has great attack and dragon claw plus dragon dance was awesome

isshoni
16th March 2011, 8:42 AM
I'm stunned by th fact that people have actually had difficulties with Ghetsis, when I didn't have much trouble at all. I had a pretty lame team too: Serperior, Musharna, Swanna, Stunfisk, Beartic and Vullaby with Eviolite.

If I remember right, I took Hydreigon down with nothing more than Stunfisk's Mud Bomb. I might've used a Hyper Potion once or twice, but I never even brought Swanna to the field.

They were only at lv. 50 when I challenged the E4 so I don't think they were at that high a level either.

seithecs
16th March 2011, 9:12 AM
With Ghetsis, it's really about how much damage his Hydreigon will do to your team. Take it out quick and easy and his team crumbles. I don't even remember most of his team. I just remember having to rez my Darmanitan, sacrificing my Serperior, and sweeping his team with two hammer arms, one for his hydra and his last poke was Spawniard's evolution (the only bit of luck I had that fight).

N was tougher, if only because by the time he brought out his Zoroark my team was ill equipped to deal with it. He got a lucky (guess not that lucky, higher crit chance and all) Night Slash. Only had Serperior left and I figured I would just Leech Seed and Giga Drain and wear him out. Then Flamethrower came and down went Serperior. I hadn't bothered to rez anyone.

Regardless, they were still easy, especially once I already knew what was coming, like every other pokemon game. Beat him with Serperior, Beartic, Cofagrigus, Simipour, Darmanitan, and Reshiram of course. Wouldn't miss the Epic Fusion Flare Fusion Bolt opening.

palapala
16th March 2011, 10:27 AM
They were only at lv. 50 when I challenged the E4 so I don't think they were at that high a level either.

My highest was lv46 and lowest 44 when I fought elite 4.

SasakiThePikachu
16th March 2011, 10:55 AM
Who is using Unfezant? I used it in my Japanese White, and it really sucked. I hope Grey/Twilight corrects it's movepool.

I know this has nothing to do with anything, but I just want to state that if the third 5th gen pokemon game is called 'Twilight', I will throw myself under a train.

Yes, Unfezant's movepool is appalling. I planned to use one when I first set eyes on Pidove (awww! innit cute!!) because I have a wierd thing for using regional birds, even the crappy ones (looking at you, Pidgeot). But then I saw it's movepool. Ay caramba. I know its never going to learn close combat, but give the bird a chance, GF!

I can't believe the department store isn't available until so fudging late in these games. This is probably my only big complaint so far. I need carbos, dammit! It's annoying - by the time I reach the dept store, my pokemon will be so high levelled that the medicine won't have any effect...

Question - do you at least get a chance to heal/be healed between battling N and Ghetsis? I'm officially wigged out (buffy ref ftw!!) if you don't.

elorasheppard
16th March 2011, 11:22 AM
I know this has nothing to do with anything, but I just want to state that if the third 5th gen pokemon game is called 'Twilight', I will throw myself under a train.

Yes, Unfezant's movepool is appalling. I planned to use one when I first set eyes on Pidove (awww! innit cute!!) because I have a wierd thing for using regional birds, even the crappy ones (looking at you, Pidgeot). But then I saw it's movepool. Ay caramba. I know its never going to learn close combat, but give the bird a chance, GF!

I can't believe the department store isn't available until so fudging late in these games. This is probably my only big complaint so far. I need carbos, dammit! It's annoying - by the time I reach the dept store, my pokemon will be so high levelled that the medicine won't have any effect...

Question - do you at least get a chance to heal/be healed between battling N and Ghetsis? I'm officially wigged out (buffy ref ftw!!) if you don't.

Yeah, N does it really quick as Ghetis attacks you :) I thought it was sweet that he does it twice. He really does care about the pokemon.

KAS
16th March 2011, 1:01 PM
Beaten the 5th Unova Gym, in Pokemon white

Got the HM fly

My Woobat evolved into Swoobat at level 17.
My Blitzl evolved into Zebstrika

The rest of my team Kororok, Pignite, pansage and Palpitoed are all hovering around levels 31-33.

This game is great.

Hejiru
16th March 2011, 1:13 PM
Who is using Unfezant? I used it in my Japanese White, and it really sucked. I hope Grey/Twilight corrects it's movepool.

lol. Pokemon Twilight Version.

Mario with Lasers
16th March 2011, 2:14 PM
If I remember right, I took Hydreigon down with nothing more than Stunfisk's Mud Bomb.

I am sure you remember it wrong, lol.

GaZsTiC
16th March 2011, 2:34 PM
lol. Pokemon Twilight Version.

Lots of romance and sparkling included.