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Centipod128
26th September 2010, 5:07 AM
I have to say it. Whats the deal with all the Shanderaa around in peoples partys? Sure, I want one as well, but I just see to much in everyones party. Once that pokemon goes into battling on the web, he'll go to OU instantly.


Multiplication for Bidoofs.

2+2=Fish
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs27/150/f/2008/183/6/4/Bidoof_is_a_Waste_by_MDarksands.jpg

R_N
26th September 2010, 5:10 AM
Well that seems... arbitrary. It gets a big old "FORCED!" label slapped on it if it doesn't get top billing and have half of the game's paper-thin plot devoted to it?

Again, go to any part of the world where there are deeply-ingrained indigenous people and other strong belief systems stemming from the geography, and you'll find enough superstitions, cryptid beliefs, myths, legends and the like to fill a notebook. Why do we chastize Hoenn, Sinnoh and Isshu for being the same?

And yes, that definition does fit Kanto's Birds to a tee.

Especially when the Sinnoh legends arguably had the most amount of backstory to them.
The pixes, the dragons, and Arceus all had a very elaborate backstory to all of them. That's 7.
Shaymin is known as the gratitude Pokemon, its subquest based around this fact and gave Floaroma its flowers from what I think was a dead land.
Cresselia & Darkrai have a history together; the former is constantly chasing/battling Darkrai to get rid of the bad dreams Darkrai causes. Her entire subquest was devoted to getting a feather from her to cure a boy's Darkrai-induced nightmare. Up to 10 so far.
Heatran pretty much rules over Stark Mountain's Volcano as a sort of god. Regigigas was said to have moved the entire continent, and if the other Regi are any indication he was probably the Ancient Snowpeakian's protector, who only awakens when in the presence of his Regi...containers? A bit flimsier compared to the others? Perhaps, but its backstory nonetheless.

I can't recall if Manaphy really had any backstory, or if the Prince of the Sea stuff was Anime only or not. Phione gets grandfathered in like Mewtwo was.

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 5:14 AM
Like I posted on Bulbagarden Forums:
http://pokemonblackandwhite.net/?p=1457
I thought it was the official artwork for all the new Pokemon (excluding event legendaries) but it's not:(
However, it is some new official artwork for the new Pokemon^_^

Woah, those look quite similar to the cut outs of those I did,

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9837/photoon20100924at20272.pnghttp://img842.imageshack.us/img842/250/photoon20100924at2028.pnghttp://img831.imageshack.us/img831/923/photoon20100924at20282.png


Anyone else agree?

RedMage23
26th September 2010, 5:18 AM
Haha, you've successfully convinced me that there aren't in fact "too many" legendaries. Well done.

R_N
26th September 2010, 5:20 AM
Woah, those look quite similar to the cut outs of those I did,

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9837/photoon20100924at20272.pnghttp://img842.imageshack.us/img842/250/photoon20100924at2028.pnghttp://img831.imageshack.us/img831/923/photoon20100924at20282.png


Anyone else agree?

If it makes you feel better they seemed to rip them on their own. Yours are very neatly cut out, theirs have lots of rough edges

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 5:26 AM
If it makes you feel better they seemed to rip them on their own. Yours are very neatly cut out, theirs have lots of rough edges

They've changed the height and width for display, but if you go to to the url of one of the images, such as,

http://pokemonblackandwhite.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/kumashun.jpg

you can see it doesn't look quite as bad.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/923/photoon20100924at20282.png
http://pokemonblackandwhite.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/kumashun.jpg


The first one is mine

The second is their's.

Definitely stolen.


They've lost some quality in saving and uploading them, my image is .png, their image of the polar bear is .jpg


The image sizes are the exact same to.

koolhk
26th September 2010, 5:37 AM
They've changed the height and width for display, but if you go to to the url of one of the images, such as,

http://pokemonblackandwhite.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/kumashun.jpg

you can see it doesn't look quite as bad.

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/923/photoon20100924at20282.png
http://pokemonblackandwhite.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/kumashun.jpg


The first one is mine

The second is their's.

Definitely stolen.


They've lost some quality in saving and uploading them, my image is .png, their image of the polar bear is .jpg


The image sizes are the exact same to.

So they stole your artworks and their not from Famistu magazine?

Royalty
26th September 2010, 5:38 AM
I have to say it. Whats the deal with all the Shanderaa around in peoples partys? Sure, I want one as well, but I just see to much in everyones party. Once that pokemon goes into battling on the web, he'll go to OU instantly.


It's one of my new favorites. I want one simply because of the design and the typing. Also, some of it's attacks just sound really cool too (i.e. Purgatory).

I pretty much keep my own pokemon world confined to my DS, but with the online Dream World, I may actually expand to the Wifi battling. Once there, I'll probably swap it out for a different one simply because I do feel it will be OU as well.

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 5:46 AM
So they stole your artworks and their not from Famistu magazine?

No, he took my images of the pokemon removed from the magazine.

The original images of the Famitsu magazine were posted by Melon, and are found here, http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=11650790&postcount=713

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 6:25 AM
So, erm, *coughs*

Anyways,

http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/585.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/585-s.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/585-a.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/585-w.png

Favorite form? I'm liking summer myself.

R_N
26th September 2010, 6:27 AM
I'm fond of Fall's orange. A shame Fall Mebu is so ridiculous looking

Lorde
26th September 2010, 6:36 AM
All the little Shikjika look the same to me; the only difference between the seasonal forms seems to be color in Shikijika's case. At least when it evolves into Mebu, it gets some extra features added to the design and not just a quick fur color change that looks like it took 20 seconds to produce in Photoshop. It's just a shame that the stats don't really change depending on the form. A real loss since they could have been creative with Shikijika's line instead of making it solely a gimmick Pokemon for the season addition.

R_N
26th September 2010, 6:44 AM
All the little Shikjika look the same to me; the only difference between the seasonal forms seems to be color in Shikijika's case. At least when it evolves into Mebu, it gets some extra features added to the design and not just a quick fur color change that looks like it took 20 seconds to produce in Photoshop. It's just a shame that the stats don't really change depending on the form. A real loss since they could have been creative with Shikijika's line instead of making it solely a gimmick Pokemon for the season addition.

I'm fine with Shijika not getting more then a color change. And it's not really that gimmicky. Mebukijika actually has resepctable stats and movepool, fore example.

I'm still surprised the evo wasn't based solely on season, though.

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 7:05 AM
I'm fine with Shijika not getting more then a color change. And it's not really that gimmicky. Mebukijika actually has resepctable stats and movepool, fore example.

I'm still surprised the evo wasn't based solely on season, though.

I prefer Shijika's season changes more than Mebujika myself.

http://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/586.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/586-s.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/586-a.pnghttp://serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon/586-w.png

Mebu's changes are just a bit to drastic. Spring is my favorite and then winter. Summer and Autumn are just to far out there.

It's a shame nothing happens when it changes form though. It could have at least been like Rotom's appliances with their special move. The grass part of the typing could have been changed. Spring form is Grass/Normal. Autumn could be Fire/Normal. Winter could be Ice/Normal and summer could just be Grass.

After typing grass that many times, I've noticed, it's quite a weird word.

Full Metal Artificer
26th September 2010, 7:18 AM
I have to say it. Whats the deal with all the Shanderaa around in peoples partys? Sure, I want one as well, but I just see to much in everyones party. Once that pokemon goes into battling on the web, he'll go to OU instantly.


Multiplication for Bidoofs.

2+2=Fish
http://th02.deviantart.net/fs27/150/f/2008/183/6/4/Bidoof_is_a_Waste_by_MDarksands.jpg

Due to Shadow Tag and it's ridiculous Sp. Attack stat, it'll probably be hanging out with Wobbufet in Ubers.

Centipod128
26th September 2010, 7:33 AM
Also, I noticed alot of newer pokemon have the same design plans as other older ones. The Gochiruzeru has the same framework as Kirlia, it's just that Gochiruzeru is a little taller and Bachuru has the exact same framework as Spinerak. Try and find some more and happy hunting!!!


Hey Cousin!!!
http://pkmn.net/sprites/blackwhite/front/576.pnghttp://www.dragonflycave.com/plsprites-frame2/281m.png

R_N
26th September 2010, 7:46 AM
Well...yeah. Their structures call for it because their based on similar things. Humanshaped Pokemon are given upright stances because of this. Spiders bodies tend to "hang" low to the ground, being elevated slightly by their legs that must bend because their structure calls for it, so spider Pokemon operate under the same principle.

Sabonea_Masukippa
26th September 2010, 7:50 AM
Also, I noticed alot of newer pokemon have the same design plans as other older ones. The Gochiruzeru has the same framework as Kirlia, it's just that Gochiruzeru is a little taller and Bachuru has the exact same framework as Spinerak. Try and find some more and happy hunting!!!

Funny you should say that...

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/8745/compareka.png

Although, I was also looking at ones with comparable in-game roles or general physical similarity or both.

Full Metal Artificer
26th September 2010, 7:59 AM
Yeah, they're clearly running out of ideas, I really wish had stopped making new ones second gen, it's pretty much been all downhill with a few exceptions.

Sabonea_Masukippa
26th September 2010, 8:05 AM
Yeah, they're clearly running out of ideas, I really wish had stopped making new ones second gen, it's pretty much been all downhill with a few exceptions.

That was really funny. I actually rolled all over the floor laughing. I love sarcasm.

Anyway, just saw the animated sprite of the lamprey's final stage. It's fins are tiny legs! Love it! :D

Full Metal Artificer
26th September 2010, 8:14 AM
That was really funny. I actually rolled all over the floor laughing. I love sarcasm.

Anyway, just saw the animated sprite of the lamprey's final stage. It's fins are tiny legs! Love it! :D

What? I mean, how many Pikachu's do we need?

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/587.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/417.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/311.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/312.png http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/25.png

Sabonea_Masukippa
26th September 2010, 8:23 AM
What? I mean, how many Pikachu's do we need?

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/587.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/417.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/311.pnghttp://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/312.png http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/25.png

What? (Love that you left out Pichu by the way, the second Gen's over-designed Pika-clone that bears much more in common with all the subsequent "clones" than they do to Pikachu itself).

And to answer your question: How long is a piece of string?

Full Metal Artificer
26th September 2010, 8:43 AM
I didn't count Pichu because he's part of Pikachu's evolution line, and I'm sure if I did include you'd argue that.

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 9:21 AM
That was really funny. I actually rolled all over the floor laughing. I love sarcasm.

Anyway, just saw the animated sprite of the lamprey's final stage. It's fins are tiny legs! Love it! :D

his kinda right though. im not sayin they shoudve stopped, or that its going downhill. but they do seem to be running out of ideas. theyre re-doing a lot of old pokemon. ill show ya.

Reparudasu=Persian

Mamepato and evos=Pidgey and evos

Dangoro and evos=Geodude and evos

Koromori/Kokoromori=Zubat/Golbat

Moguryuu/Doryuuzu=Sandshrew/Sandslash

Tabunne=Clefable

Dokkora and evos=Machop and evos

Otamaru and evos=Poliwag and evos

Nageki/Dageki=Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan

Monmen=Skiploom

Doredia=Bellossom

Basurao=Carvanha

Marakacchi=Cacnea

Ishizumai/Iwaparesu=Paras/Parasect

Abagoora=Blastoise

Aakeosu=Aerodactyl

Yabakuron/Dasutodasu=Grimer/Muk

Mebukijika=Stantler

Emonga=Pachirisu

Tamagetake/Morobareru=Voltorb/Electrode

Pururiru/Burungeru=Tentacool/Tentacruel

Mamanbou=Luvdisc

Tesshiido=Pineco

Gear and evos=Magnemite and evos

Kumashun/Tsunbeaa=Teddiursa/Ursaring

Furiijio=Bronzor

Maggyo=Barboach

Baffuron=Tauros

Genosekuto=Mewtwo

i know, i know. i coulda just done a few. but im bored.

BCVM22
26th September 2010, 9:29 AM
theyre re-doing a lot of old pokemon. ill show ya.

...orrrrrrr it could be that every new region has its own spins on certain staples, such as a basic bird, a forest mammal, domestic mammals like dogs and cats, cave dwellers, certain fish and other water-dwelling creatures and a number of other archetypes, and particularly in these games, where most of the critters of the past are absent until the advanced stages of the games, necessitating new Pokémon to fill many of those niches.

But, uh, hey, nah, that makes too much sense, let's go with "running out of ideas" and "re-doing old Pokémon". It's not like Johto and Hoenn and Sinnoh have their own signature birds and mammals and fish or anything.

Sabonea_Masukippa
26th September 2010, 9:41 AM
I didn't count Pichu because he's part of Pikachu's evolution line, and I'm sure if I did include you'd argue that.

Well, since all the "pika-clones" have more in common with Pichu in terms of style, size, and power, no I would not. But I suppose it's much more fun to put words in my mouth.

Anyway, I was thinking.

Gamageroge.

It's name means: "Toad Ribbit Ribbit"

Because it's a toad it's got warts.

The warts vibrate.

And they create earth vibrations.

Thus explaining the ground type. Maybe?


...orrrrrrr it could be that every new region has its own spins on certain staples, such as a basic bird, a forest mammal, domestic mammals like dogs and cats, cave dwellers, certain fish and other water-dwelling creatures and a number of other archetypes, and particularly in these games, where most of the critters of the past are absent until the advanced stages of the games, necessitating new Pokémon to fill many of those niches.

But, uh, hey, nah, that makes too much sense, let's go with "running out of ideas" and "re-doing old Pokémon". It's not like Johto and Hoenn and Sinnoh have their own signature birds and mammals and fish or anything.

Wait, you mean a region which by design creates its own "ecosystem" on a separate continent to the other regions because, by admission of the games' director, re-using the same 5-18 year old designs was becoming stale isn't running out of ideas?

You mean that the organisms in geographically distant, biologically isolated systems will evolve similar features as they fill similar ecological niches?

You mean that a company responsible for a multi-billion dollar franchise will re-use similar and proven design elements because a) those elements have already proven successful, and thus more likely to turn profit, and b) because they're designed by largely the same 10 or so (plus a few more) who've been designing them for as long as 20 years? To fill the same or similar in-game roles since no old designs were re-appearing?

That's just crazy talk.

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 10:00 AM
...orrrrrrr it could be that every new region has its own spins on certain staples, such as a basic bird, a forest mammal, domestic mammals like dogs and cats, cave dwellers, certain fish and other water-dwelling creatures and a number of other archetypes, and particularly in these games, where most of the critters of the past are absent until the advanced stages of the games, necessitating new Pokémon to fill many of those niches.

But, uh, hey, nah, that makes too much sense, let's go with "running out of ideas" and "re-doing old Pokémon". It's not like Johto and Hoenn and Sinnoh have their own signature birds and mammals and fish or anything.

do you know what i mean by that? i know they do that, but until now they were at least different. Mamepato is a Pigeon, like Pidgey, Otomaru is Poliwag without legs, Baffuron is Tauros with a fro, Maggyo is Barboach turned, Tamagetake and Morobareru are little pokeball dudes, like V/E. i know they each have different spins on pokemon, but this time they seem more like clones than new spins. you dont see it?

i suppose that second thing you said could be the reason. since this is a fresh start with no old pokemon til after the game. i suppose they would need a new Zubat, a new Geodude, a new Tentacruel etc. that would explain some of them.

BCVM22
26th September 2010, 10:11 AM
Mamepato is a Pigeon, like Pidgey

Pidgey is a pigeon in name only. Mamepato is legitimately a pigeon and has a far stronger claim to that origin.


Otomaru is Poliwag without legs

The first poliwog of any sort they've done in 14 years, and still separated by a pair of limbs.


Baffuron is Tauros with a fro

Buffalon is a buffalo; Tauros is a bull. They look similar because their animals of origin look similar.


Tamagetake and Morobareru are little pokeball dudes, like V/E

Except for where the mushroom pair are... y'know, mushrooms, while Voltorb and Electrode are basically just Pokéballs with eyes.


i suppose that second thing you said could be the reason. since this is a fresh start with no old pokemon til after the game. i suppose they would need a new Zubat, a new Geodude, a new Tentacruel etc. that would explain some of them.

Yes. No Zubat, no Geodude, no Tentacruel means you need new critters to fill those roles, and in many cases, the counterparts share little in common aside from the roles they fill. Zubat and Koromori, for example, have almost nothing in common aside from both being species of bats.

Zalman
26th September 2010, 10:11 AM
When can we expect to see the Sugimori artwork of all the new Pokémon?

Zhanton
26th September 2010, 10:12 AM
Lord_Kain, imagine each region as...a separate country.
Each country has its own birds. They may look similar, but they're different.
Each country has its own fish. Once again, they're different.
Each country has its own mammals.
And bats.
And dogs.
And cats.
But they're all different.

I'm not too sure how you still don't understand what BCVM and Sab are saying. -.-

BCVM22
26th September 2010, 10:15 AM
When can we expect to see the Sugimori artwork of all the new Pokémon?

When people stop asking.

At this rate, I estimate never.

Unlike sprites, which can be ripped from the games in a matter of minutes, loaded as PNG or JPEG or GIF files and conveniently wrapped up in a neatly-organized zip file before you can finish saying "these Pokémon suck", Sugimori art is not generally released completely in convenient digital format. It gets put in magazine spreads and guidebooks and while some pieces do get put on websites where intrepid fans can download them, clean them up and put them to use, that's mostly limited to headlining Pokémon like the starters, their evolutions and the Legendaries.

Until the B/W guides start hitting stores and people actually go to the immense trouble of scanning the pages, clipping the art and spreading it around, there simply isn't going to be a flood of Sugimori art like there is with sprites. Not to single you out, but people need to stop, think, realize this and stop asking. If there was a giant depository of clean, high-quality, easily accessible Sugimori art sitting on the Internet somewhere, you'd know.

DracoMaster121
26th September 2010, 10:15 AM
his kinda right though. im not sayin they shoudve stopped, or that its going downhill. but they do seem to be running out of ideas. theyre re-doing a lot of old pokemon. ill show ya.

Reparudasu=Persian

Mamepato and evos=Pidgey and evos

Dangoro and evos=Geodude and evos

Koromori/Kokoromori=Zubat/Golbat

Moguryuu/Doryuuzu=Sandshrew/Sandslash

Tabunne=Clefable

Dokkora and evos=Machop and evos

Otamaru and evos=Poliwag and evos

Nageki/Dageki=Hitmonlee/Hitmonchan

Monmen=Skiploom

Doredia=Bellossom

Basurao=Carvanha

Marakacchi=Cacnea

Ishizumai/Iwaparesu=Paras/Parasect

Abagoora=Blastoise

Aakeosu=Aerodactyl

Yabakuron/Dasutodasu=Grimer/Muk

Mebukijika=Stantler

Emonga=Pachirisu

Tamagetake/Morobareru=Voltorb/Electrode

Pururiru/Burungeru=Tentacool/Tentacruel

Mamanbou=Luvdisc

Tesshiido=Pineco

Gear and evos=Magnemite and evos

Kumashun/Tsunbeaa=Teddiursa/Ursaring

Furiijio=Bronzor

Maggyo=Barboach

Baffuron=Tauros

Genosekuto=Mewtwo

i know, i know. i coulda just done a few. but im bored.

You are the most awesome person in the world!!!
I thought the exact same thing that you did.
Great minds think alike.
Finally someone else has realised the similarities to previous generations. :)
Thankyou
I love your Black and White teams too.
They are so cool.
We have the same types on our teams as well.
I will talk to you more through PM if you don't mind.

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 10:27 AM
Lord_Kain, imagine each region as...a separate country.
Each country has its own birds. They may look similar, but they're different.
Each country has its own fish. Once again, they're different.
Each country has its own mammals.
And bats.
And dogs.
And cats.
But they're all different.

I'm not too sure how you still don't understand what BCVM and Sab are saying. -.-

i do know what youre saying. but they just seem to be alot more similar than usual.

this is the first generation ive actually followed before release, so maybe i just have more time to compare and notice it.

Chimecho3000
26th September 2010, 10:28 AM
Apart from the Jellyfish line and Mamepato's final evo, do any new Pokemon have gender differences? And did any old Pokes gain a gender difference?

NewBarkTown
26th September 2010, 10:29 AM
Lord_Kain, imagine each region as...a separate country.
Each country has its own birds. They may look similar, but they're different.
Each country has its own fish. Once again, they're different.
Each country has its own mammals.
And bats.
And dogs.
And cats.
But they're all different.

I'm not too sure how you still don't understand what BCVM and Sab are saying. -.-
This, the only reason people are becoming critical about similar looking pokemon now is because each region has been unique, while pokemon isn't real is is based on real life, there are various animals in all countries, not the same but in the same family.

Zhanton
26th September 2010, 10:34 AM
You are the most awesome person in the world!!!
I thought the exact same thing that you did.
Great minds think alike.
Finally someone else has realised the similarities to previous generations.
Thankyou
I love your Black and White teams too.
They are so cool.
We have the same types on our teams as well.
I will talk to you more through PM if you don't mind.
-face palm-
Seriously, more SPPf-ers need to read the posts above them before replying.


i do know what youre saying. but they just seem to be alot more similar than usual.

this is the first generation ive actually followed before release, so maybe i just have more time to compare and notice it.
I'm not too sure how following a generation pre-release has anything to do with noticing similarities.


while pokemon isn't real is is based on real life, there are various animals in all countries, not the same but in the same family.
Well said :]

Anyyyywayyy...I think the Bug/Rock hermit crab is adorable. Just saying.
And Monmen and Churine aren't really version exclusives, as you can trade one for the other in Sappou City. Yay for not so exclusive version exclusives!

BCVM22
26th September 2010, 10:34 AM
Apart from the Jellyfish line and Mamepato's final evo, do any new Pokemon have gender differences?

Kenhorou and Squiddly Diddly x 2 are it as far as gender differences.

DracoMaster121
26th September 2010, 10:35 AM
Lord_Kain, imagine each region as...a separate country.
Each country has its own birds. They may look similar, but they're different.
Each country has its own fish. Once again, they're different.
Each country has its own mammals.
And bats.
And dogs.
And cats.
But they're all different.

I'm not too sure how you still don't understand what BCVM and Sab are saying. -.-

Zhanton what Lord Kain is saying is that all the previous regions have a completely different design and new ways of evolving.
With the new generation there are very close similarities to previous generations.
E.g. the Dangoro line- first evolution Lv. 25 then evolves via trade.
The same as the Geodude line.
E.g. Tabunne- rare and heals other pokemon.
The same as Chansey.
E.g. Tamagetake- battles you when touched and looks like a poke ball.
The same as Voltorb.

Do you understand better now?

Sabonea_Masukippa
26th September 2010, 10:39 AM
When can we expect to see the Sugimori artwork of all the new Pokémon?

The best answer at the moment is that they'll come when they come. Even though I'm sure you'll have seen these by now, continue to bask in the glory:

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6097/sugimori.png

natie
26th September 2010, 10:50 AM
i do know what youre saying. but they just seem to be alot more similar than usual.

this is the first generation ive actually followed before release, so maybe i just have more time to compare and notice it.Quite frankly none of the new Pokémon look anything like those you believe they copied.

And even if so, as said by countless others already, different regions (both IRL and in Pokémon) house different creatures. Those creatures may either look very similar or not similar at all.

Will-powered Spriter
26th September 2010, 11:31 AM
I was looking at the idividual pieces of the aimations Found here (http://www.spriters-resource.com/community/showthread.php?tid=7715&page=1) and I noticed something.

While Zekrom and Reshiram have pretty lame shiny sprites in the still pictures designed for the pokedex, once you see them animated, Shiny Reshi has cool purple fire, and shiny zek has epic green electricity.

Corroded Arceus
26th September 2010, 11:36 AM
To be honest I'm really not quite sure what the fuss is about. So the new pokemon may or may not look similar to previous pokemon, big deal. Complaining on an internet forum isn't going to change anything.

NewBarkTown
26th September 2010, 11:52 AM
I think the Bug/Rock hermit crab is adorable. Just saying.


I liked him but then I saw the evolution, a crab carrying a block of sandstone, not very appealing.

*Jean Grey*
26th September 2010, 11:59 AM
The best answer at the moment is that they'll come when they come. Even though I'm sure you'll have seen these by now, continue to bask in the glory:

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6097/sugimori.png

Kumashun is sooo adorable! Can't wait for the rest! Although Chillarmy and Chillachino, along with Emonga, Munna's line, Tabunne and Minezumi's line make me wanna vomit though. :X

charizard master 100
26th September 2010, 12:10 PM
To be honest I'm really not quite sure what the fuss is about. So the new pokemon may or may not look similar to previous pokemon, big deal. Complaining on an internet forum isn't going to change anything.

yeah but it gets your anger out

charizard master 100
26th September 2010, 12:13 PM
What? (Love that you left out Pichu by the way, the second Gen's over-designed Pika-clone that bears much more in common with all the subsequent "clones" than they do to Pikachu itself).

And to answer your question: How long is a piece of string?

they may look like pikachu but they will never compare to the oringonal. pikachus yellow sprte is the best to date

Sabonea_Masukippa
26th September 2010, 12:25 PM
They may look like Pikachu but they will never compare to the original. Pikachu's yellow sprite is the best to date.

*fixed*

Do you mean the best Pikachu sprite or the best sprite in general?

http://serebii.net/yellow/025.gif

And if Pikachu will automatically remain the best for ever, in your mind, simply because it came first, then you have lost the ability for logical, reasonable thought in this matter and there's nothing left worth saying.

Corroded Arceus
26th September 2010, 12:39 PM
yeah but it gets your anger out

Anger? Over pokemon? Seriously.

I understand mild annoyance, but anger?

Chimecho3000
26th September 2010, 12:47 PM
Kenhorou and Squiddly Diddly x 2 are it as far as gender differences.

Glad to hear that. I never liked gender differences. Although I like how Kenhorou and Jellyfish line's gender differences are so vastly different unlike the majority of the older Pokemon with differences.

LimeStar
26th September 2010, 12:49 PM
http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/0c/524Dangoro.png
http://pokemondb.net/static/artwork/geodude.jpg
OHMYGOD I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE!!!!1!1!1!!!
THESE POKEMON ARE TOO SIMMILAR!!!!11ONE!!!!!

...


ohwait

Zhanton
26th September 2010, 12:55 PM
Glad to hear that. I never liked gender differences. Although I like how Kenhorou and Jellyfish line's gender differences are so vastly different unlike the majority of the older Pokemon with differences.
Agreed. I find it better with less Pokemon having gender differences, but those Pokemon having more obvious gender differences.

ChillarmyArmy
26th September 2010, 1:05 PM
Just read this on Pokabu's Trivia on Bilbapedia:

Ken Sugimori said that Pokabu and its evolutions were meant to evoke a Chinese feel. Its typing and appearance are reminiscent of Zhu Bajie, a pig demon from the Chinese tale, Journey to the West. Infernape is also based on another character from the novel, Sun Wukong, and has a similar design.

So, it kinda Explains why they've got similar Golden Appendages and identical Typing. Still annoying though, 3 Fire/Fightings in a row.

I also read that Daikenki is based on a Sealion (I read that and did NOT believe it atall).

I just hope they don't base Gen 6's Fire Starter on something from 'Journey to the West'...

charizard master 100
26th September 2010, 1:10 PM
*fixed*

Do you mean the best Pikachu sprite or the best sprite in general?

http://serebii.net/yellow/025.gif

And if Pikachu will automatically remain the best for ever, in your mind, simply because it came first, then you have lost the ability for logical, reasonable thought in this matter and there's nothing left worth saying.

best pikachu sprite. and if you had to choose between dagkei(blue fighting) and nageki(red fighting) how would you choose. i want some ideas on who you would use in a battle

charizard master 100
26th September 2010, 1:11 PM
and i dont think pikachu is the best pokemon, i just like the sprite

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 1:17 PM
and if you had to choose between dagkei(blue fighting) and nageki(red fighting) how would you choose. i want some ideas on who you would use in a battle

Dageki has higher attack and speed and the ability sturdy. Nageki has higher HP, defense and Sp. defense and the ability guts. So the choice is: do want a offensive or a defensive pokémon.

x5IFerrariI5x
26th September 2010, 1:25 PM
I think this generation has quite of bit of cool pokemon, i thought nintendo would run out of ideas but they still have got ideas!

Sabonea_Masukippa
26th September 2010, 1:27 PM
Just read this on Pokabu's Trivia on Bilbapedia:

Ken Sugimori said that Pokabu and its evolutions were meant to evoke a Chinese feel. Its typing and appearance are reminiscent of Zhu Bajie, a pig demon from the Chinese tale, Journey to the West. Infernape is also based on another character from the novel, Sun Wukong, and has a similar design.

So, it kinda Explains why they've got similar Golden Appendages and identical Typing. Still annoying though, 3 Fire/Fightings in a row.

I also read that Daikenki is based on a Sealion (I read that and did NOT believe it atall).

I just hope they don't base Gen 6's Fire Starter on something from 'Journey to the West'...

Indeed. I believe Goku and Oolong from Dragon Ball were based off of the same characters.

And yes, Sugimori came out and said in Pokemon Pia that they decided to base Mijumaru's 3rd evo on a sea-lion after seeing them performing at a zoo, partly because they were having difficulty deciding exactly how the final evo should look and wanting to give players a surprise.


best pikachu sprite. and if you had to choose between dagkei(blue fighting) and nageki(red fighting) how would you choose. i want some ideas on who you would use in a battle

Well, if I had to pick, I'd go with Dageki on design. He's also got good speed, good attack, ok defenses, not too much less than Nageki. He looses a lot in HP over Nageki though, but being a grass-lover he'd have some team support. And with the new change Sturdy is nice, but Guts Nageki would be nice if it wasn't so slow.

SergeiDragunov
26th September 2010, 1:27 PM
Dageki has higher attack and speed and the ability sturdy. Nageki has higher HP, defense and Sp. defense and the ability guts. So the choice is: do want a offensive or a defensive pokémon.

I think Kojondo > Both of em.

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 1:32 PM
I think Kojondo > Both of em.

I agree :)

Aurath8
26th September 2010, 2:11 PM
I don't like Kojondo. No clear justification on it getting Aura Sphere! It's just a bipedal cat with fancy robes, not enough to contain the power of Aura like the Dragon Trio, Mewtwo and the mighty Lucario.

Johto King
26th September 2010, 2:14 PM
In my opinion the best part of this new generation is the fact they will most likely be making ruby and saphire remakes! But that's probably like 2-3 years down the line lol. Can't wait for the ORIGINAL battle fronteir.

charizard master 100
26th September 2010, 2:23 PM
In my opinion the best part of this new generation is the fact they will most likely be making ruby and saphire remakes! But that's probably like 2-3 years down the line lol. Can't wait for the ORIGINAL battle fronteir.

gen 2 was good and the remakes were great

Johto King
26th September 2010, 2:29 PM
gen 2 was good and the remakes were great

AGREED! Pokemon hg and as were the best pokemon game to come out so far. I'm kinda annoyed they didn't continue on the whole pokemon following you thing :(

SergeiDragunov
26th September 2010, 2:33 PM
I don't like Kojondo. No clear justification on it getting Aura Sphere! It's just a bipedal cat with fancy robes, not enough to contain the power of Aura like the Dragon Trio, Mewtwo and the mighty Lucario.

Togekiss gets Aura Sphere too :)

Nacreous
26th September 2010, 2:37 PM
When will we get some more Sugimori art?


I don't like Kojondo. No clear justification on it getting Aura Sphere! It's just a bipedal cat with fancy robes, not enough to contain the power of Aura like the Dragon Trio, Mewtwo and the mighty Lucario.

You don't know that.Maybe it's based on some creature from the japanese folklore

Dr. Leggs
26th September 2010, 2:40 PM
Togekiss gets Aura Sphere too :)

Indeed. And Kojufuu/Kojondo are supposed to be monk-like; I see no problem with Kojondo getting Aura Sphere. It actually seems quite fitting.

charizard master 100
26th September 2010, 2:41 PM
Togekiss gets Aura Sphere too :)

aura sphere is a great move

Ekans786
26th September 2010, 2:46 PM
Hey guys Sazandos got only two arms but the heads look a lot like arms.

PurplePoctopus
26th September 2010, 2:49 PM
Jaroda is one of my favorite pokemon this generation. I love the way it looks, like royalty. Musharna is adorable, and I knew the instant that I saw Munna that I wanted one. The pokemon this generation look really nice. Even their shiny forms look good, no more odd yellows, or weird greens. The grass starter isn't an odd shade of brown... it's a beautiful green and blue!

charizard master 100
26th September 2010, 3:06 PM
Hey guys Sazandos got only two arms but the heads look a lot like arms.

that is because sazandos hos a main head and two smaller one in his arms

Aurath8
26th September 2010, 3:16 PM
Apparently, Goroogu, the Ground/Ghost Robot, can fly at mach speeds. It also learns fly making it the only pokemon that learnd fly without being flying type, having levitate or being mew, which learns all moves including gender specifics like Attract.
Giratina-Altered can learn it but Origin Forme has Levitate so....
Just thought I'd point that out.

Ekans786
26th September 2010, 3:20 PM
that is because sazandos hos a main head and two smaller one in his arms

You think it can close them to make normal arms.

Slimslamer
26th September 2010, 3:22 PM
Hihidaruma absolutly, absolutly terrifies me. He's a glass cannon, that's for sure, but 104 base hp means he can at least take one hit. All I can think about is how much his flareblitz is going to wreck. It has 180 power with STAB, then 234(!) with encourage, and then you have to take Hihidaruma's 140 base attack into consideration. I feel like this could ohko even pokemon that have a 2x resistance to fire.

Edit: I feel like Encourage was actually a necessary ability to give to Hihidaruma, if he had access to Nitro Charge, he would pretty much be unstoppable.

Kingudora
26th September 2010, 4:14 PM
Apparently, Goroogu, the Ground/Ghost Robot, can fly at mach speeds. It also learns fly making it the only pokemon that learnd fly without being flying type, having levitate or being mew, which learns all moves including gender specifics like Attract.
Giratina-Altered can learn it but Origin Forme has Levitate so....
Just thought I'd point that out.
Smeargle says hello. Just to point out.

Sabonea_Masukippa
26th September 2010, 4:24 PM
Apparently, Goroogu, the Ground/Ghost Robot, can fly at mach speeds. It also learns fly making it the only pokemon that learnd fly without being flying type, having levitate or being mew, which learns all moves including gender specifics like Attract.
Giratina-Altered can learn it but Origin Forme has Levitate so....
Just thought I'd point that out.

Genesect, Urugamoth, Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyurem and Arceus. And Smeargle as mentioned above.

ChillarmyArmy
26th September 2010, 4:36 PM
When I read there'd be a new Ghost/Ground type I thought it'd either be Deathkahn or a Zombie thing.

Who's idea was it to make it Grolgoth from Rayman 2?

Raichu:)
26th September 2010, 5:19 PM
i love everything of gen 5
i love that the game seems to be more story based and seems that it will be more interesting
i like that all old pokemon are only availiable after national dex
its like pokemons changing, moving with the times making it new, i think thats coz its far away from the other reigions it makes it different. i also like how you have 2 rivals (childhood friends) and each get a starter pkm with u and knowing how their journey unfolds.
soz for ma extensive speech just joined

Trainer Nessa
26th September 2010, 5:20 PM
When I read there'd be a new Ghost/Ground type I thought it'd either be Deathkahn or a Zombie thing.

Who's idea was it to make it Grolgoth from Rayman 2?

Gorog is based on a golem, like the Regi's.

Johto King
26th September 2010, 5:30 PM
i love everything of gen 5
i love that the game seems to be more story based and seems that it will be more interesting
i like that all old pokemon are only availiable after national dex
its like pokemons changing, moving with the times making it new, i think thats coz its far away from the other reigions it makes it different. i also like how you have 2 rivals (childhood friends) and each get a starter pkm with u and knowing how their journey unfolds.
soz for ma extensive speech just joined

Except I believe that the dream world is releasing some old gen pokemon b4 the national dex. Aka kanto starters(possibly 2,3,4 gen starters) and eeveelutions. :)

Icay4321
26th September 2010, 5:42 PM
I don't like Kojondo. No clear justification on it getting Aura Sphere! It's just a bipedal cat with fancy robes, not enough to contain the power of Aura like the Dragon Trio, Mewtwo and the mighty Lucario.

Kojondo is amazing. He's a cat-monk that will be very hard to knock-out in play due to it's Speed, Attack, Special Attack, and Ability. It's also got some moves to protect itself and its teammates. Plus, because it IS a monk-like thing, I see no problem with Aura Sphere.

Raichu:)
26th September 2010, 5:44 PM
Except I believe that the dream world is releasing some old gen pokemon b4 the national dex. Aka kanto starters(possibly 2,3,4 gen starters) and eeveelutions. :)

Thanks lol i forgot about the dream world (how could i forget that );026;

RedMage23
26th September 2010, 5:46 PM
How early in the game is the PokeShifter available?

ChillarmyArmy
26th September 2010, 5:54 PM
How early in the game is the PokeShifter available?

After the Elite 4.

RedMage23
26th September 2010, 5:56 PM
Sorry for asking so many questions, but what do you need to do to get the national dex, and how early is that available?

Endless
26th September 2010, 6:11 PM
Sorry for asking so many questions, but what do you need to do to get the national dex, and how early is that available?
After E4, I am not sure if you have to catch/see a number of pokemon too, tought.

Raichu:)
26th September 2010, 6:17 PM
don't suppose anyone has even tried to work out the english names for the new pokemon? doubt it but i have to ask im curious... :)

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 6:23 PM
don't suppose anyone has even tried to work out the english names for the new pokemon? doubt it but i have to ask im curious... :)

Jigglychu did some.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=11463391&postcount=13042

Kyogre Master
26th September 2010, 6:26 PM
Denchura spelled backwards is Aruhcned, which is very close to Arachnid. Just throwing that out there.

Raichu:)
26th September 2010, 6:39 PM
Jigglychu did some.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=11463391&postcount=13042

thanks for the direction lol very imaginative, and probably close to actual names thanks again:)

Mr.Munchlax
26th September 2010, 6:39 PM
Woah, those look quite similar to the cut outs of those I did,

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9837/photoon20100924at20272.pnghttp://img842.imageshack.us/img842/250/photoon20100924at2028.pnghttp://img831.imageshack.us/img831/923/photoon20100924at20282.png


Anyone else agree?


Wait, so you're saying you drew & colored those?

Kaiinel
26th September 2010, 6:51 PM
Where can I find Wooguru?

Aurath8
26th September 2010, 6:53 PM
@Kaiinel:
Black: Trade.
White: Route 10 and Victory Road have its Prevo Washibon, Route 11 has both.

SergeiDragunov
26th September 2010, 6:55 PM
don't suppose anyone has even tried to work out the english names for the new pokemon? doubt it but i have to ask im curious... :)

I'm calling these right now.

Kurimugan- Crimgon
Zeburaika- Zebrike
Yooterii- Yorterry
Hihidaruma- Hedaruma
Shanderaa- Chandelair

R_N
26th September 2010, 7:08 PM
Kojondo is amazing. He's a cat-monk that will be very hard to knock-out in play due to it's Speed, Attack, Special Attack, and Ability. It's also got some moves to protect itself and its teammates. Plus, because it IS a monk-like thing, I see no problem with Aura Sphere.

Yeah, if anything, Martial Artist cat makes more sense then things like Dialga or....Togekiss.

Centipod128
26th September 2010, 7:13 PM
I don't have the game yet, but can you get the pre-evolution of Urugamoth before the elite four?

R_N
26th September 2010, 7:17 PM
Genesect, Urugamoth, Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyurem and Arceus. And Smeargle as mentioned above.

By all counts Garchomp should learn Fly but noooo can't have that.

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 7:17 PM
I don't have the game yet, but can you get the pre-evolution of Urugamoth before the elite four?

If you can go to Route 18 before the E4, then yes.

Grei
26th September 2010, 7:28 PM
^You can. You only need Surf in order to reach the guy with the Meraruba egg on Route 18.

SergeiDragunov
26th September 2010, 7:31 PM
^You can. You only need Surf in order to reach the guy with the Meraruba egg on Route 18.

That makes life way easier for me.

Centipod128
26th September 2010, 7:36 PM
^You can. You only need Surf in order to reach the guy with the Meraruba egg on Route 18.
Thanks. Now I can complete my team even before the E4.

RedMage23
26th September 2010, 7:37 PM
When's the earliest you can trade? My friends are probably going to beat the Elite Four before I even get the game, so I can get Torchic from them.

Grei
26th September 2010, 7:43 PM
When's the earliest you can trade? My friends are probably going to beat the Elite Four before I even get the game, so I can get Torchic from them.

If memory serves, you can trade as soon as you get the C Gear.

RedMage23
26th September 2010, 7:46 PM
If memory serves, you can trade as soon as you get the C Gear.

Um... where do you get that, and at what point in the game? Sry if I'm asking too many questions.

Kaiinel
26th September 2010, 7:50 PM
Alright...
Where can I find a Kibago?

ForeverFlame
26th September 2010, 7:55 PM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Urgamoth%20Front.gif

Urgamoth has an awesome animation. The animations are kind of odd though. Some of them are amazing (like Gliscor), and others are really half-assed (poor, poor Deoxys...).

Lorde
26th September 2010, 8:04 PM
Alright...
Where can I find a Kibago?

In the cave across the river that's near the entrance to Electric Rock Cave. I found a few this morning. Kibago is so amazingly useful, especially for the final Gym battle against Iris/Shaga :p



Urgamoth has an awesome animation. The animations are kind of odd though. Some of them are amazing (like Gliscor), and others are really half-assed (poor, poor Deoxys...).

I do agree that many of the animations for the new Isshu Pokemon aren't as good as others; same goes for some of the older Pokemon's animations I've come across. I'm just curious as to why that is haha. I mean, why not take the time to make them all great? It shouldn't take too long to animate them all, should it?

RedMage23
26th September 2010, 8:08 PM
Coming up with creative animations for 649+ different sprites? There's gotta be a few duds.

martinn94
26th September 2010, 8:15 PM
Does anyone know where you can find all the animated sprites? Like a website or something?

Wordy
26th September 2010, 8:33 PM
Well, I know where you can find some of them (http://armaina.com/pokemon/).


As to everything else, who knows?

Varnani
26th September 2010, 8:43 PM
thanks you for sharing those! certainly there are some... not as neat, but they're nice nonetheless

razz

Johto King
26th September 2010, 9:03 PM
Does anyone know if there is a isshu map yet?

Ophie
26th September 2010, 9:12 PM
I do agree that many of the animations for the new Isshu Pokemon aren't as good as others; same goes for some of the older Pokemon's animations I've come across. I'm just curious as to why that is haha. I mean, why not take the time to make them all great? It shouldn't take too long to animate them all, should it?

Considering the number of Pokémon out there, doing ANYTHING that requires you go through each of them individually is a gargantuan task.

R_N
26th September 2010, 9:16 PM
Considering the number of Pokémon out there, doing ANYTHING that requires you go through each of them individually is a gargantuan task.

Especially when they have to work within the sprite limits, both size-wise and structure-wise

It will be interesting to see if any of them get altered in Gray or RS remakes

Royalty
26th September 2010, 9:26 PM
Does anyone know what the Romanticized translations would be for:

Jaroda
~I keep reading Smuglord and if that's the case, I'll nickname it Jaroda.

Kyuremu
~My tongue gets tied trying to say it

Sazando

Kibago + Ononokusu

Denchura

Pururiru + Burunkeru

and

Kirikizan

???

(And please do tell me if these already are the closest to English translations cause I wouldn't even know where to begin with the Japanese language)

I honestly hope that the English games keep some of the names like Shanderaa, Zekrom, and Reshiram cause I think they sound fitting.

Hejiru
26th September 2010, 9:29 PM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Zuruggu%20Front.gif

*bursts out laughing*
I don't know if that's hilarious, creepy, or adorable. :D


Jigglychu did some.
http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=11463391&postcount=13042

:'D

I'm gonna update that real soon with a bunch, since I haven't updated with the BW post-release Pokemon.

Ophie
26th September 2010, 9:30 PM
Why not Chandeler like what the katakana implies? It makes more sense that way.

I would be very interested to see if any of the animations change for the 3rd game. I'd be impressed if they modified even the 5th-generation ones. It'll likely come out for the 3DS though, where there will be more memory space to work with. I'm sure Black/White is crammed to the brim as it is.

(Fact: Satoru Iwata, President of Nintendo, works directly with the Game Freak staff to help compress data for Pokémon games.)

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 9:37 PM
Reshiram and Zekrom names stays the same.
http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/pokemon-pre.shtml
Look for Zek and Resh, it says: US Name: Reshiram/Zekrom.

BCVM22
26th September 2010, 9:38 PM
Kyuremu

Kyurem.


Denchura

Dentula (as in tarantula).


(And please do tell me if these already are the closest to English translations cause I wouldn't even know where to begin with the Japanese language)

Most of what you posted are as close as you're going to come already. There are certainly some cases where the Pokémon's appearance and/or type give us insight as to what the simplest romanization would be, like the Steel/Fighting Legendary: it romanizes as KO-BA-RU-O-N, or "Kobaruon". A little thinking reminds us that it's part-Steel-type and that cobalt is a type of metal and even better, a type of metal used to make a substance called "cobalt blue", which all ties itself together and lets us realize that "KOBARUON" probably boils down to "Cobalon/Kobalon", depending on how they choose to write it.

You get the idea.


I honestly hope that the English games keep some of the names like Shanderaa, Zekrom, and Reshiram cause I think they sound fitting.

Zekrom and Reshiram were confirmed months ago. "Shanderaa" is already the closest that katakana can come to replicating "chandelier", itself already an English word, so it's unlikely they'll keep that as is.

Icay4321
26th September 2010, 9:59 PM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Bellossom%20Front.gif (http://armaina.com/pokemon/Bellossom%20Front.gif)
This one made me laughXD

EDIT: ok, how do I upload this?

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 9:59 PM
"I'm not too sure how following a generation pre-release has anything to do with noticing similarities."

until now i didnt really see much of the new pokemon until the games came out, and then i was too busy playing the games and having hella fun to notice anything.


To be honest I'm really not quite sure what the fuss is about. So the new pokemon may or may not look similar to previous pokemon, big deal. Complaining on an internet forum isn't going to change anything.

if you read my big post back there youd know that i wasnt complaining at all, i love the new guys (except the dumb ones like gears, snowflake, trash, etc.) its just something i noticed.

Ekans786
26th September 2010, 10:06 PM
Gear was good they messed up the evos.
The ice cream dosent need 2 evos.

BCVM22
26th September 2010, 10:13 PM
Who dictates which ones "need" evolutions and which ones don't, exactly?

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 10:14 PM
Gear was good they messed up the evos.
The ice cream dosent need 2 evos.

gear could skip his second and ice cream could drop the first or 3rd.

that would make room for dolphins :)

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 10:14 PM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Bellossom%20Front.gif (http://armaina.com/pokemon/Bellossom%20Front.gif)
This one made me laughXD

EDIT: ok, how do I upload this?

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Bellossom%20Front.gif
Strange, I did the same what you did, maybe you had a little error?

Lorde
26th September 2010, 10:19 PM
These new animated Black and White sprites are adorable, I just wish we could get rid of that horrible black shadow. I've seen some that are animated quite nicely without that shadow like the Chillarmy sprite I had as a signature before. Oh well. As for English names for the new Pokemon; I have no ideas on those. I am looking forward to Zorua and Zoroark's English names however and I expect these to be revealed soon since movie 13 is coming up in the U.S. I wonder if they'll change Zorua and Zoroark to Zolua and Zoloalk (this is sarcasm).

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 10:20 PM
could someone tell me when i can get each of the pokemon in my teams? (except starters and mascots, i know those). dont tell me routes or anything ive seen that stuff, but i dont know when you get to any of the places.

ie. everyone says you can get the meraruba egg right after you get surf, thats good. tell me stuff like that.

GolemGuy
26th September 2010, 10:22 PM
Does anyone else agree with me that Pokabu is the most average Pokemon ever?

Seriously!

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 10:27 PM
These new animated Black and White sprites are adorable, I just wish we could get rid of that horrible black shadow. I've seen some that are animated quite nicely without that shadow like the Chillarmy sprite I had as a signature before. Oh well. As for English names for the new Pokemon; I have no ideas on those. I am looking forward to Zorua and Zoroark's English names however and I expect these to be revealed soon since movie 13 is coming up in the U.S. I wonder if they'll change Zorua and Zoroark to Zolua and Zoloalk (this is sarcasm).

Which ones would you like to not have a shadow? I can give it a go and try and remove it from one.

Lorde
26th September 2010, 10:30 PM
Which ones would you like to not have a shadow? I can give it a go and try and remove it from one.

I'm actually most interested in having this one without that shadow:

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Koromori%20Front.gif

Koromori is my new favorite Pokemon so I'd like to have a nice clean, shadow-less animated sprite of it, if that's even possible lol. I just remembered last night, that I claimed Koromori about a month ago in the official claim thread. I was wondering why nobody had that claim in their signature but it turns out that I had something to do with that. Koromori is mine! >:3

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 10:33 PM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Bellossom%20Front.gif
Strange, I did the same what you did, maybe you had a little error?


http://armaina.com/pokemon/Bellossom%20Front.gif
This one made me laughXD

EDIT: ok, how do I upload this?

Icay, you goofed somehow and put a url tag into the image tag.

Icay4321
26th September 2010, 10:33 PM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Bellossom%20Front.gif

Edit: XD thanks, and this guy'll join the dancing http://armaina.com/pokemon/Ludicolo%20Front.gif

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 10:35 PM
I'm actually most interested in having this one without that shadow:

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Koromori%20Front.gif

Koromori is my new favorite Pokemon so I'd like to have a nice clean, shadow-less animated sprite of it, if that's even possible lol. I just remembered last night, that I claimed Koromori about a month ago in the official claim thread. I was wondering why nobody had that claim in their signature but it turns out that I had something to do with that. Koromori is mine! >:3

O.o

125 frames for that animation.

Sheesh, Gamefreak..

I'll work on getting it done for you, The 4th KIRA.

Lorde
26th September 2010, 10:38 PM
I'll work on getting it done for you, The 4th KIRA.

Lol, thank you kind sir. Seems like a lot of frames for such of short animation. In the games, the animated sprites for the Pokemon only seem to last about 10 seconds before they start over from the first frame. Of course, I've only seen the Isshu Pokemon animated sprites in the game so far. By any chance, would you or anyone else happen to know which sprites have the most frames?

Ophie
26th September 2010, 10:39 PM
Hey now, the first generation had Grimer and Muk, who were simply living chunks of sludge. The garbage bag and garbage heap Pokémon here are leagues above them in their design and how they were thought out.

Of course, my planned team is full of eccentric Pokémon but I'll be saving the garbage Pokémon for when I can come up with something.

SergeiDragunov
26th September 2010, 10:46 PM
I can has an animation for Doryuuzu?

Icay4321
26th September 2010, 10:49 PM
I can has an animation for Doryuuzu?

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Doryuuzu%20Front.gif From armaina.com

SergeiDragunov
26th September 2010, 10:58 PM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Doryuuzu%20Front.gif From armaina.com

*squeals in fanboyish excitement*

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 11:00 PM
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/7734/koromori20frontnoshadow.gif

lindsy95
26th September 2010, 11:02 PM
Hm, has anyone made animations for older pokemon?
say, haunter?

Kokoromori
26th September 2010, 11:04 PM
Well poop. I'm trying to avoid the moving sprites until my game comes in next week.
But it's kinda hard to when everyone is posting the images in here. >8I

Lorde
26th September 2010, 11:05 PM
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/7734/koromori20frontnoshadow.gif

OMG that's so amazing! Thanks for taking the trouble to de-shadow the Koromori animated sprite, it means a lot. Like I said, I'm obsessed with the 5th Generation's bat Pokemon and I'd really like to use this animated sprite in my signature soon. Koromori has a cool type combination and a cute design which is why I can't stop talking about it. It's beautiful :)

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 11:07 PM
Lol, thank you kind sir. Seems like a lot of frames for such of short animation. In the games, the animated sprites for the Pokemon only seem to last about 10 seconds before they start over from the first frame. Of course, I've only seen the Isshu Pokemon animated sprites in the game so far. By any chance, would you or anyone else happen to know which sprites have the most frames?

Hm, well Doryuzu has 185, Bellosom has 54 but much longer frame times. Ludicolo has 52 but really large frame times.



OMG that's so amazing! Thanks for taking the trouble to de-shadow the Koromori animated sprite, it means a lot. Like I said, I'm obsessed with the 5th Generation's bat Pokemon and I'd really like to use this animated sprite in my signature soon. Koromori has a cool type combination and a cute design which is why I can't stop talking about it. It's beautiful :)


Aha, you're welcome. All I did was use the magic wand tool in Fireworks and wahlah. And I agree, he is quite a cool Pokemon.

Leboyo56
26th September 2010, 11:10 PM
Hey, the only thing I am wondering about Black and White is new Pokemon evolutions for past species. I know Mamanbou is the evolution to Luvdisc, and that's cool and all, but I noticed how this generation there is huge shift toward completely new Pokemon, though I would rather like new info on my favorite oldies. I noticed for one thing that Baffuron looks strikingly similar to Tauros, other than that it doesn't have the three split tails :( Does anyone who has played the game know of any other new evolutions to past generation Pokemon? If you do, that would be really cool. Let me know.

;448;

Blazios
26th September 2010, 11:12 PM
I know Mamanbou is the evolution to Luvdisc

No, it's not. This generation's Pokédex is entirely unrelated to any other generation.

Lorde
26th September 2010, 11:12 PM
I know Mamanbou is the evolution to Luvdisc

It's not. Mamanbou and Luvdisc are not related by evolution in the 5th Generation. They look alike, but so do many other Pokemon not related by evolution. Sorry to burst your bubble :s

davidxrawr
26th September 2010, 11:13 PM
are all these animations legit (in other words are they the actual animations in the game)

Either way I cant wait to see all the animations whenever they do show up :D

SergeiDragunov
26th September 2010, 11:14 PM
OMG that's so amazing! Thanks for taking the trouble to de-shadow the Koromori animated sprite, it means a lot. Like I said, I'm obsessed with the 5th Generation's bat Pokemon and I'd really like to use this animated sprite in my signature soon. Koromori has a cool type combination and a cute design which is why I can't stop talking about it. It's beautiful :)

I still remember when your title was Bat Romance. I lol'd soooo hard at that.

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 11:14 PM
Hey, the only thing I am wondering about Black and White is new Pokemon evolutions for past species. I know Mamanbou is the evolution to Luvdisc, and that's cool and all, but I noticed how this generation there is huge shift toward completely new Pokemon, though I would rather like new info on my favorite oldies. I noticed for one thing that Baffuron looks strikingly similar to Tauros, other than that it doesn't have the three split tails :( Does anyone who has played the game know of any other new evolutions to past generation Pokemon? If you do, that would be really cool. Let me know.

;448;

everything is new this time.

but since gen IV was like 40% babies and evos of exsisting pokemon, it kinda evens out.

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 11:15 PM
Hm, has anyone made animations for older pokemon?
say, haunter?

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Haunter%20Front.gif

RedMage23
26th September 2010, 11:15 PM
OMG that's so amazing! Thanks for taking the trouble to de-shadow the Koromori animated sprite, it means a lot. Like I said, I'm obsessed with the 5th Generation's bat Pokemon and I'd really like to use this animated sprite in my signature soon. Koromori has a cool type combination and a cute design which is why I can't stop talking about it. It's beautiful :)

I completely agree, although I don't like its evolution as much. Kind of like Zubat and Golbat :P


everything is new this time.

but since gen IV was like 40% babies and evos of exsisting pokemon, it kinda evens out.
I would argue that Gen 4 made up for Gen 3's lack of those things... Gen 5 is just annoying :(

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 11:17 PM
i didn't see absol on that site. is there somewhere else i can find its animation?

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 11:20 PM
This one lures you in, it makes you think it's a calm relaxed animation

and then

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Victini%20Front.gif

It gets you!

Lorde
26th September 2010, 11:23 PM
I still remember when your title was Bat Romance. I lol'd soooo hard at that.

Yeah I still remember that one. One of my better titles haha http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac139/Kira-man/Koromori_Emote_by_KyogreMaster.png

Am I one of the few people glad that Generation 5 contained no evolutions/pre-evolutions of older Pokemon? I thought it was a nice refreshing change of pace. I especially like that no older Pokemon appeared in Isshu at all until after the Elite Four and National Dex stuff was taken care of. It's been a fun challenge having to use new Pokemon and not older ones.

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 11:27 PM
This one is probably the most cutest an funniest
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Kumashun%20Front.gif

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 11:27 PM
Yeah I still remember that one. One of my better titles haha http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac139/Kira-man/Koromori_Emote_by_KyogreMaster.png

Am I one of the few people glad that Generation 5 contained no evolutions/pre-evolutions of older Pokemon? I thought it was a nice refreshing change of pace. I especially like that no older Pokemon appeared in Isshu at all until after the Elite Four and National Dex stuff was taken care of.

Eh, I;m a bit disapointed. I'm not really sure I like this whole theme of "starting over" but we'll have to see how that goes..

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 11:28 PM
Yeah I still remember that one. One of my better titles haha http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac139/Kira-man/Koromori_Emote_by_KyogreMaster.png

Am I one of the few people glad that Generation 5 contained no evolutions/pre-evolutions of older Pokemon? I thought it was a nice refreshing change of pace. I especially like that no older Pokemon appeared in Isshu at all until after the Elite Four and National Dex stuff was taken care of.

yes you are, and so am i.

its a fresh start, its gonna be awesome. im getting tired of all those zubat and tentacool!

Johto King
26th September 2010, 11:34 PM
Is there a site for the map if issue and all of it's routes/caves where they tell you where you find each pokemon?

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 11:37 PM
This one lures you in, it makes you think it's a calm relaxed animation

and then

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Victini%20Front.gif

It gets you!

I wish that one didn't have a shadow, because it's very neat. I also think Victiny is the most irritating pokémon to catch because it's cry sound like laughing. So, when it breaks free from your pokéball. XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAQ1B7JpG9Q

Full Metal Artificer
26th September 2010, 11:38 PM
This one is probably the most cutest an funniest
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Kumashun%20Front.gif

Psh, he's not nothing on Teddiursa. ;216;

LegitEagle
26th September 2010, 11:39 PM
Yeah I still remember that one. One of my better titles haha http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac139/Kira-man/Koromori_Emote_by_KyogreMaster.png

Am I one of the few people glad that Generation 5 contained no evolutions/pre-evolutions of older Pokemon? I thought it was a nice refreshing change of pace. I especially like that no older Pokemon appeared in Isshu at all until after the Elite Four and National Dex stuff was taken care of.

I'm totally with you, sometimes i wish that this was the only pokemon game ever because not only they are all new pokemon but they are ALL freakin awesome.
I'm not a "the first one was the best" person, dude look at this :
In the first game the fire pokemon were like, a flaming horse, a red dog, a flaming humanoid pokemon. New fire pokemon, ghost candelabrum, fiery bug, fire angry gorilla.
I mean like **** YEAH.
I'm a RPG guy, i like those bulky detailed armor (Love Diablo n WoW) so these new pokemon are totally awesome, there is a freakin steel plant with tentacles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ps: Can someone get the Kirikizan moving sprite??

Dracoste
26th September 2010, 11:42 PM
Can someone get the Kirikizan moving sprite??

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Kirikizan%20Front.gif

It looks like it's giving orders or something.

CyndaquilRules
26th September 2010, 11:45 PM
I wish that one didn't have a shadow, because it's very neat. I also think Victiny is the most irritating pokémon to catch because it's cry sound like laughing. So, when it breaks free from your pokéball. XD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAQ1B7JpG9Q

I'd remove his shadow but I can't easily do it because I mess up his ear.

ForeverFlame
26th September 2010, 11:48 PM
I'm glad that there's 156 brand-new Pokemon. I felt cheated in the fourth generation when, out of the 107 new Pokemon, 24 of them were related to old Pokemon.

I guess the odd numbered generations are reboots and the even numbered generations are sequels. That's why the second and fourth generations had so many new evolutions and pre-evolutions.

Kokoromori
26th September 2010, 11:49 PM
I think I'm going to avoid this thread until my game comes in.

But omg Victini's moving sprite, haha.
I like him a little better now.

Johto King
26th September 2010, 11:49 PM
Yeah I still remember that one. One of my better titles haha http://i893.photobucket.com/albums/ac139/Kira-man/Koromori_Emote_by_KyogreMaster.png

Am I one of the few people glad that Generation 5 contained no evolutions/pre-evolutions of older Pokemon? I thought it was a nice refreshing change of pace. I especially like that no older Pokemon appeared in Isshu at all until after the Elite Four and National Dex stuff was taken care of. It's been a fun challenge having to use new Pokemon and not older ones.

That's where your wrong!:) the dream world will have pokemon from previous generations b4 u beat the E4. Like starters and eeveelutions.

Mr. E Goods
26th September 2010, 11:58 PM
Mmmmm.. Thats why I was so shocked that there are no gym rematches. If they ran out of pokemon for the gym leaders to have six in their party they could have used previous gen pokemon.

Lord_Kain
26th September 2010, 11:59 PM
I'm glad that there's 156 brand-new Pokemon. I felt cheated in the fourth generation when, out of the 107 new Pokemon, 24 of them were related to old Pokemon.

I guess the odd numbered generations are reboots and the even numbered generations are sequels. That's why the second and fourth generations had so many new evolutions and pre-evolutions.

gen IV was definitly the worst.

107 pokemon
-29 related to old pokemon
78 new pokemon
-14 legendarys (15 if you count rotom)
only 64/63 new pokemon.
and then if you only count final forms....

there really wasnt much to chose from if youre like me and only use pokemon that belong to the game. (only gen II pokemon in HG/SS, only gen IV in D/P/Pt, etc.)

isshu is gonna be the best.

adom4
27th September 2010, 12:07 AM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Kirikizan%20Front.gif

It looks like it's giving orders or something.

Where did you get the moving sprite?

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 12:10 AM
gen IV was definitly the worst.

107 pokemon
-29 related to old pokemon
78 new pokemon
-14 legendarys (15 if you count rotom)
only 64/63 new pokemon.
and then if you only count final forms....

there really wasnt much to chose from if youre like me and only use pokemon that belong to the game. (only gen II pokemon in HG/SS, only gen IV in D/P/Pt, etc.)

isshu is gonna be the best.

Rotom isn't a legendary. It's just not....

Dr. Leggs
27th September 2010, 12:11 AM
That's where your wrong!:) the dream world will have pokemon from previous generations b4 u beat the E4. Like starters and eeveelutions.

We don't know if they're transferable to the game pre-Elite Four.


Mmmmm.. Thats why I was so shocked that there are no gym rematches. If they ran out of pokemon for the gym leaders to have six in their party they could have used previous gen pokemon.

No gym rematches? Is this confirmed? D:

Lord_Kain
27th September 2010, 12:13 AM
Rotom isn't a legendary. It's just not....

i know, but i though some people considered him one.

smashbro77
27th September 2010, 12:19 AM
I'm totally with you, sometimes i wish that this was the only pokemon game ever because not only they are all new pokemon but they are ALL freakin awesome.
I'm not a "the first one was the best" person, dude look at this :
In the first game the fire pokemon were like, a flaming horse, a red dog, a flaming humanoid pokemon. New fire pokemon, ghost candelabrum, fiery bug, fire angry gorilla.
I mean like **** YEAH.
I'm a RPG guy, i like those bulky detailed armor (Love Diablo n WoW) so these new pokemon are totally awesome, there is a freakin steel plant with tentacles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ps: Can someone get the Kirikizan moving sprite??

Hey man i know the new pokemon are cool but don't diss arcanine moltres and charizard there still some of the coolest fire pokemon

smashbro77
27th September 2010, 12:21 AM
ps. can someone get an ononokosu moving sprite or give me a link to the moving sprites? thanks

LegitEagle
27th September 2010, 12:24 AM
Hey man i know the new pokemon are cool but don't diss arcanine moltres and charizard there still some of the coolest fire pokemon
... I'm perfectly fine with your opinion but you have to accept that i can have one too. I love arcanine but i don't like rapidash, moltres meh and charizard owns. Everyone thinks in different ways, i don't mind that.

Lord_Kain
27th September 2010, 12:25 AM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/

he isnt there though. it only has some of them

RedMage23
27th September 2010, 12:26 AM
This one lures you in, it makes you think it's a calm relaxed animation and then It gets you!

Haha! I love Victini. It's my favorite "cute" legend since Celebi.

The only reason I dislike the whole "no old pokemon before natty dex" thing is because they're delaying 493 different species of Pokemon. It's not like Ruby and Sapphire where there was only like 180 Pokemon left out... there was such a great variety of Pokemon before Gen V and I feel like I'm gonna miss them...

I'm neutral on the whole "no pokemon related to old gens" thing. While I do think some Gen 1-4 Pokemon could've used a new evo or prevo, there's really no Pokemon I would want to get a new evo or prevo instead of having a brand new Pokemon.

Blaziken's moving sprite looks SICK!

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 12:52 AM
Blaziken's moving sprite looks SICK!

Huh, weird. I thought it was kinda dumb. Arms up Arms down. What, is he at some old people fitness session?

R_N
27th September 2010, 12:53 AM
I'm glad that there's 156 brand-new Pokemon. I felt cheated in the fourth generation when, out of the 107 new Pokemon, 24 of them were related to old Pokemon.

I guess the odd numbered generations are reboots and the even numbered generations are sequels. That's why the second and fourth generations had so many new evolutions and pre-evolutions.

Which is kind of why I like the even gens. I'm very excited to see who gets new evos & pre-evos in the 6th generation. But that's speculation for another 4 years from now.

For now I must agonize over my team.

PurplePoctopus
27th September 2010, 1:15 AM
Mm. These generation's are really, truly amazing. They had so many new and innovative ideas! I mean, I wouldn't think to make ice cream, or a chandelier into a pokemon!

PearlDex
27th September 2010, 2:13 AM
I always use pokemon FROM that game with some variation. If there aren't many pokemon I like, I capture a Gyarados or Abra, ones that are hard to train that I've come to like. But if there is a wild Houndour in the game WATCH OUT. I will set the pokemon overworld on fire trying to find it. I have a small collection of Houndour now who helped me beat the games since I always use it. And then I have the one I bred for my real team.

I think some pokemon should be brought back in the interest of continuity.

BUT ALLOW ME TO ASK: No Pikachu? Seriously? Has that EVER happened? Can't remember if it was in R/S/E.

Edit: No old pokemon in the game helps me understand why there are so many species repeats. Enough with the monkeys and turtles, already.

Pokenerd_David
27th September 2010, 2:21 AM
I've noticed recently people posting their dream 6-member teams as their sigs. Type-wise and stat-wise, they're ideal, but then I look at their aesthetics...lol. I think people don't care about looks anymore, but go for what's inside now...or they're just coping with the looks.

Lorde
27th September 2010, 2:22 AM
That's where your wrong!:) the dream world will have pokemon from previous generations b4 u beat the E4. Like starters and eeveelutions.

Ah, but you've just said the magic word, "Dream World". The Dream World isn't an ingame feature, I mean to say, it's only accessible via the Internet and not during normal gameplay in the actual games themselves. Therefore, my point still stands; only new Generation 5 Pokemon are found in Pokemon Black and White until you get the National Dex.

RedMage23
27th September 2010, 2:24 AM
BUT ALLOW ME TO ASK: No Pikachu? Seriously? Has that EVER happened? Can't remember if it was in R/S/E.


The only games Pikachu isn't in are Colosseum and XD

R_N
27th September 2010, 2:34 AM
I've noticed recently people posting their dream 6-member teams as their sigs. Type-wise and stat-wise, they're ideal, but then I look at their aesthetics...lol. I think people don't care about looks anymore, but go for what's inside now...or they're just coping with the looks.
Or they like how they look.

But that's clearly far too crazy.

Johto King
27th September 2010, 2:34 AM
Ah, but you've just said the magic word, "Dream World". The Dream World isn't an ingame feature, I mean to say, it's only accessible via the Internet and not during normal gameplay in the actual games themselves. Therefore, my point still stands; only new Generation 5 Pokemon are found in Pokemon Black and White until you get the National Dex.

Ahhh that's where your wrong again! To get the pokemon from the dream world you must catch then in game. So hopefully some old gens wil be back to kick some you know what! Go JOHTO!

Lorde
27th September 2010, 2:46 AM
The Dream World isn't an ingame feature, I mean to say, it's only accessible via the Internet and not during normal gameplay in the actual games themselves.


Ahhh that's where your wrong again! To get the pokemon from the dream world you must catch then in game. So hopefully some old gens wil be back to kick some you know what! Go JOHTO!

Again, I'm talking about during normal gameplay. If I were to play right now, without the Dream World or any other feature, would I be able to capture any one of the 493 previous Pokemon? I think the answer is still no and only Isshu Pokemon roam the Isshu region before the National Dex, during normal gameplay.


I've noticed recently people posting their dream 6-member teams as their sigs. Type-wise and stat-wise, they're ideal, but then I look at their aesthetics...lol. I think people don't care about looks anymore, but go for what's inside now...or they're just coping with the looks.

Not me honey; I always judge by looks. I don't really much care about stats and all that battle stuff; so long as my Pokemon are cute and able to at least beat the important characters during the main storyline, I'm set. Which is why I like so many cute Pokemon like Koromori, Choroneko, Kurumiru, and Mijumaru despite the fact that most of their stats aren't the best. At least they're cute and they all evolve into cute Pokemon haha.

ForeverFlame
27th September 2010, 2:47 AM
I've noticed recently people posting their dream 6-member teams as their sigs. Type-wise and stat-wise, they're ideal, but then I look at their aesthetics...lol. I think people don't care about looks anymore, but go for what's inside now...or they're just coping with the looks.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, I'm quite partial to Dunsparce, and I'm warming up to Flounderp (see my signature).

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 2:57 AM
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, I'm quite partial to Dunsparce, and I'm warming up to Flounderp (see my signature).
You like the Pancake Pokemon?

MrGreen
27th September 2010, 2:57 AM
Ok just a thought, Gigagear and his evolition line. Im not bashing on it but......... Those anyone else think that he was never ment to be a Pokemon. I think he was just some test to see if Continuosly moving Pokemon was possible, just a thought.

ForeverFlame
27th September 2010, 2:59 AM
You like the Pancake Pokemon?

I love how utterly shitty it is. There's almost a sort of memetic value to it.

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 3:06 AM
I love how utterly shitty it is. There's almost a sort of memetic value to it.

Gosh darn it...You've opened my eyes..

Now I'm starting to like the pancake.



Ok just a thought, Gigagear and his evolition line. Im not bashing on it but......... Those anyone else think that he was never ment to be a Pokemon. I think he was just some test to see if Continuosly moving Pokemon was possible, just a thought.

All Gamefreak would have had to do to test if it was possible to have continuously moving pokemon, would be to make each frame a pixel different. Obviously they didn't do it for that reason.

Mr.Munchlax
27th September 2010, 3:22 AM
I just don't see "Smugleaf" as Tsutarja's American name. I've been trying to think of domething else but I get stuck

Aether13
27th September 2010, 3:35 AM
I just don't see "Smugleaf" as Tsutarja's American name. I've been trying to think of domething else but I get stuck

Of course it won't be, it would be awesome if it would be though, Smugleaf is a pretty epic name lol.

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 3:35 AM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1025/umag.gif

Zoomed in. Saw the goofy grin.. Started to really like it...

RedMage23
27th September 2010, 3:37 AM
I just don't see "Smugleaf" as Tsutarja's American name. I've been trying to think of domething else but I get stuck

Well, obviously that isn't actually going to be its name. But the meme will always be Smugleaf.

Lorde
27th September 2010, 3:39 AM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/1025/umag.gif

Zoomed in. Saw the goofy grin.. Started to really like it...

I hadn't seen it's animated sprites until about two days ago. I literally felt sick the moment it started grinning up at me. I had to turn off the game and take slow, deep breaths just to calm down. Lol I'm playing around. I did find that goofy grin to be quite creepy since I hadn't expected that out of this flat ray Pokemon. I dislike how even though I hit it with strong attacks, the ones in Sekka City never seem to want to faint. Add Endure into the equation and those things are beasts. What's it's name again? :|

davidxrawr
27th September 2010, 3:40 AM
How I categorize pokemon I like:
1. Its cute/adorable/etc.
2. Its badass/cool/etc.
3. Its weird/looks funny/etc.

Most gen V fit in these categories :D

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 3:45 AM
I hadn't seen it's animated sprites until about two days ago. I literally felt sick the moment it started grinning up at me. I had to turn off the game and take slow, deep breaths just to calm down. Lol I'm playing around. I did find that goofy grin to be quite creepy since I hadn't expected that out of this flat ray Pokemon. I dislike how even though I hit it with strong attacks, the ones in Sekka City never seem to want to faint. Add Endure into the equation and those things are beasts. What's it's name again? :|

His name is Maggyo. And his grin is almost cute at 800% zoomed in.

FireEmblemAddict
27th September 2010, 3:49 AM
I've noticed recently people posting their dream 6-member teams as their sigs. Type-wise and stat-wise, they're ideal, but then I look at their aesthetics...lol. I think people don't care about looks anymore, but go for what's inside now...or they're just coping with the looks.

This is the exact opposite of what I do, as you might be able to tell from my team.

Wallaroo42
27th September 2010, 3:57 AM
Dude, Flounderp (I'm calling it that now XD ) has been on my favs list ever since I saw "flatfish" in the spoilers description. Flounders rock, and that death grin just makes it so much better XD

My aesthetic sense... well, obviously it's a bit different from most. But I guess I like generic cute things too.

R_N
27th September 2010, 4:00 AM
This is the exact opposite of what I do, as you might be able to tell from my team.

You appear to like super classy Pokemon

Also a hipster

FireTheAbsolLord
27th September 2010, 4:17 AM
Whats up? The ceiling, right? So, um, isn't Pokabu cute? Personally I hate its evolved forms but Pokabu is cute. Also I like all the other starters and forms...I just wish Mijimaru's evo was white like Mijimaru, not blue.

FireTheAbsolLord
27th September 2010, 4:24 AM
Gosh darn it...You've opened my eyes..

Now I'm starting to like the pancake.

I wasn't even apart of with conversation and now I am agreeing....wow....

MizuJosh
27th September 2010, 4:33 AM
I play for the Pokémon that give me sentimental value. Haha. And looks. ;)

Dude. Flounderp just changed my life. I want 37 of them.

Luke the Almighty
27th September 2010, 4:40 AM
As long as I don't repeat types, then I'm set.

Fedora the Emonga? YEAH

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 4:41 AM
As long as I don't repeat types, then I'm set.

Fedora the Emonga? YEAH

Flounderp might be a new meme.

MAKE IT HAPPENE EVERYONE.

Luke the Almighty
27th September 2010, 4:44 AM
Flounderp might be a new meme.

MAKE IT HAPPENE EVERYONE.

I'm not totally sure why you quoted me, but don't force a meme. Forced memes are forced, and lame.

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 4:46 AM
I'm not totally sure why you quoted me, but don't force a meme. Forced memes are forced, and lame.


Hmm, why did I quote you? xD

But all I meant by that is call him Flounderp lol. I didn't say "go into every thread and go 'FLOUNDEEERRRPPP!"

zyphil
27th September 2010, 5:47 AM
why is Jaroda such a lame pokemon? It's movepool sucks. it's strong and all, but just lacks the versatility needed to be strong and tactful.

O Fortuna
27th September 2010, 5:50 AM
why is Jaroda such a lame pokemon? It's movepool sucks. it's strong and all, but just lacks the versatility needed to be strong and tactful.

It's a fast Subseeder. This could be quite good. There is more than just all-out attacking.

R_N
27th September 2010, 6:25 AM
It's a fast Subseeder. This could be quite good. There is more than just all-out attacking.

And if you still insist on wanting it to be a strong attacker, its dream ability (who knows when that will be released) allows it to abuse Leaf Storm for +2 boosts

Corroded Arceus
27th September 2010, 7:36 AM
if you read my big post back there youd know that i wasnt complaining at all, i love the new guys (except the dumb ones like gears, snowflake, trash, etc.) its just something i noticed.

In anywhere in my post did I say that I was directing it at you? No. The point of my post was that ANY complaining that ANYONE does in regards to pokemon is pointless.

For example, I don't like the new fighting pokemon that hold planks. Do I post a message about it on the forums saying that "POKEMANS IS RUINED FOREVAR" or that pokemon's gone downhill because of it? (aside from me using this as a hypothetical example obviously) Do I make refrence to the fact that it's a direct ripoff of Machop (which, for the record I don't believe)? No. I get over it and focus on the pokemon I like, because no-one is holding a gun to my head and making me use those pokemon.

Mr. E Goods
27th September 2010, 7:36 AM
I go for looks first, but if a pokemon is just too crappy I wont use it. I always like to have some good strong pokemon in my team. Also I love classy looking pokemon the best.

Wild Jolteon
27th September 2010, 7:48 AM
The more I look at the Dex the more Pokemon I find myself liking while their some I hate I'm liking the 5th gen pokemon.


Also who's never evolving their Futachimaru? XD

Full Metal Artificer
27th September 2010, 8:52 AM
I officially hate Tabuune. Argh, trying to find a freaking Emonga is impossible! All I get are those goddamned Chansey rip-offs.

Clay Psyduck
27th September 2010, 8:53 AM
I've noticed recently people posting their dream 6-member teams as their sigs. Type-wise and stat-wise, they're ideal, but then I look at their aesthetics...lol. I think people don't care about looks anymore, but go for what's inside now...or they're just coping with the looks.

Or, you know, they like the way they look or something?

I, personally, cannot stand looking at something that I don't find aesthetically pleasing. So if I am making a team, it is only going to have Pokemon I like the look of.

Though it can be argued that I like a lot of 'ugly' looking Pokemon, but I generally actually think they look cool. But there are ones I absolutely cannot look at, like Meditite's line. And I personally hate Tabunne. *shrugs*

Additionally, despite being male, I played the girl main character in Pokemon Sapphire, LeafGreen and Diamond simply because I absolutely hate the male sprites (hate the male sprites for each of those games) and/or character design (RSE and DPPt. No problem with Red's design, just hated the sprite).

HeartGold is the first time I chose a male since I've been given a choice, and I will be choosing male again in Black. Unlike the past few games, I actually like their designs.

Rakurai
27th September 2010, 9:33 AM
I officially hate Tabuune. Argh, trying to find a freaking Emonga is impossible! All I get are those goddamned Chansey rip-offs.

I have a feeling that it might actually be found in normal patches of grass, because if they were only in the shaking patches, that would mean I'm extremely inattentive and lucky, as I never noticed myself running into a shaking patch, yet have encountered five or so Emonga when I wasn't even looking for them.

Pokefan1023
27th September 2010, 12:03 PM
I found a Tabunne yesterday at the Dream Ruins. It was totally random and unexpected - I didn't even notice any shaking grass, I was just running around looking for a Munna and a Tabunne popped up xD I switched to my Tsutaja, who weakened her just enough with bind/wrap/whatever it is and caught her with a great ball.

Tabunne has an adamant nature (yay) and is, actually, very strong. So all of you people hating onTabunne should know that I'm kicking butt with one.

redroses
27th September 2010, 1:28 PM
I had a weird thought about the evo of Chillarmy.
We all know how it still looks very much like Chillarmy with added fur. But even more like it's "wearing" the fur. Maybe it's reference as how chinchillas are often used for the production of fur coats etc. Would be very messed up if that what it was though XD

AncientMew
27th September 2010, 3:07 PM
Dammit! Enough with the fire/fighting starters already!

This has probably already been covered, but I only just found out.

Joe.
27th September 2010, 4:34 PM
Still no trainer sprites?

And where is everyone getting the moving ones from?

Raichu:)
27th September 2010, 5:20 PM
Still no trainer sprites?

And where is everyone getting the moving ones from?

Most are from here :) www.armaina.com/pokemon i think :)

Joe.
27th September 2010, 5:46 PM
Oh, is there a place that has them without the shadows?

Aether13
27th September 2010, 6:17 PM
Dammit! Enough with the fire/fighting starters already!

This has probably already been covered, but I only just found out.

Yeah but Emboar is definitly a BA and imo the best out of all three of the fire/fighting starts, so im okay with it this time.

Ekans786
27th September 2010, 6:33 PM
Who dictates which ones "need" evolutions and which ones don't, exactly?

The fandom does im just saying some evos just are not needed thats all.

Correct me if im wrong but I sensed a bit of snappyness.

MetalFlygon08
27th September 2010, 6:39 PM
Oh, is there a place that has them without the shadows?

not yet, but if you ask nicely certain members named metalflygon08 is capable of getting you one without the shadow.

like this lovely lug: http://www.iaza.com/work/100928C/feraligator47345.gif

Lorde
27th September 2010, 6:54 PM
I just noticed something about Koromori I hadn't thought about before; is that heart-shaped thing it's eye, or it's nose? I always thought it was an eye but I think it might actually be it's nose and it's eyes are actually covered in fur :s

MetalFlygon08
27th September 2010, 6:55 PM
ya it's the nose, the eyes are like Piloswne's covered.

Dracoste
27th September 2010, 6:57 PM
I just noticed something about Koromori I hadn't thought about before; is that heart-shaped thing it's eye, or it's nose? I always thought it was an eye but I think it might actually be it's nose and it's eyes are actually covered in fur :s

It's his nose.
Black/White pokédex entry: It sleeps by attaching its nostrils to the walls of caves. The places where it’s been attached to are left with a faint heart shaped mark.

Lorde
27th September 2010, 7:06 PM
ya it's the nose, the eyes are like Piloswne's covered.

So then Koromori's eyes are just black dots? I wish I had known that sooner. I thought it used Heart Stamp by focusing all it's energy on that heart thing, which I had thought was an eye but now it's been confirmed it's a nose and that makes things weirder. Heart Stamp is a nose attack haha. I still love Koromori though, just because it's cute whether the heart-thing is an eye, nose, or anything else. Anyone know the exact type of bat it's based upon?

MetalFlygon08
27th September 2010, 7:09 PM
a few pages back there was apicture of them, they are pretty much cotton balls with tiny peach ears, noses, and wings.

Taichi
27th September 2010, 7:45 PM
I love the new "Thug" Pokemon.
When ever I battle or chose this pokemon I'll be playing Bed Intruder.

http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/e/e4/559.pnghttp://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/0/09/560.png

Pokemon Intruder

He's hidin' in the wild, snatchin' your poke's up
Tryna catch em all so ya'll need to
hide ya Smugleaf, hide ya Wotter
hide ya Smugleaf, hide ya Wotter
hide ya Smugleaf, hide ya Wotter
and hide ya Pignite cause they catchin' errbody out here.
You don't have to come and confess
we lookin for you
WE GON' CATCH YOU! WE GON' CATCH YOU!
So you can run and tell dat.
Run and tell dat.
Run and tell dat, Homiechu
Homie, Homie, Homiechu.

Aether13
27th September 2010, 8:25 PM
You have offically made my day with that song xD also can anyone explain how Mijumaru went from being a Sea Otter Pokemon to being classified as a Dignity pokemon as Daikenki

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 8:27 PM
Kira,


Not sure if you're trolling or not.

Go back and look at generation 1 without your nostalgia glasses on and look at all the designs and what they are and how 'creative' they are.

If you honestly think that any of that is better than even half of the gen 5 Pokemon, then you and your friend are stuck in the past, or can't comprehend what a good design is.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/SgLi5J2YzPI/AAAAAAAAljk/gEhADObnpYs/s400/honduran-white-bat-4.jpg

It's based on a real bat.

Another pic:
http://www.arkive.org/media/AC/AC545697-BD11-48EB-8015-A1C4A22D5726/Presentation.Large/photo.jpg

A different (I think), but similar bat
http://www.bats.org.uk/data/images/threats/white_nose_al_hicks_nydeccrop.jpg





not yet, but if you ask nicely certain members named metalflygon08 is capable of getting you one without the shadow.

like this lovely lug: http://www.iaza.com/work/100928C/feraligator47345.gif

Oh, nice job. Whatr program do you use to remove them, fif you don't mind me asking. I've done these two,
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/1025/umag.gifhttp://img810.imageshack.us/img810/7734/koromori20frontnoshadow.gif

with Fireworks CS3.

Lorde
27th September 2010, 8:30 PM
I love the new "Thug" Pokemon.

I don't know. I think calling Zuruggu and it's evolved form the "thug" Pokemon is just wrong. It's stereotypical in the extreme; just because their pants are sagging doesn't mean they're necessarily based on thugs, more like it's based on the Sagging fashion as a whole. There's a difference between people and fashion in my opinion and although people wear fashionable clothes, people and fashion aren't interchangable, and it this case, Pokemon and fashion aren't interchangable either.

MetalFlygon08
27th September 2010, 8:39 PM
I use Benton Movie GIF, and Paint, it allows more freedom imo, since I can edit each frame individually, adjust the speed (aka put them all at 5 intstead of the random 8, 10, 3, and 4 I've been finding)

and the result of 5 minutes of work is this http://www.iaza.com/work/100928C/Deathkan35092.gif

While it looks like a lot, once you find the loop points your really only doing 20 frames, and just repeatng them a few times.

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 8:40 PM
I don't know. I think calling Zuruggu and it's evolved form the "thug" Pokemon is just wrong. It's stereotypical in the extreme; just because their pants are sagging doesn't mean they're necessarily based on thugs, more like it's based on the Sagging fashion as a whole. There's a difference between people and fashion in my opinion and although people wear fashionable clothes, people and fashion aren't interchangable, and it this case, Pokemon and fashion aren't interchangable either.

Zuruzukin reminds me of a cowboy, to be honest. Hands to the side. Wide stance pose, flexing fingers in his animation..

natie
27th September 2010, 8:41 PM
So then Koromori's eyes are just black dots? I wish I had known that sooner. I thought it used Heart Stamp by focusing all it's energy on that heart thing, which I had thought was an eye but now it's been confirmed it's a nose and that makes things weirder. Heart Stamp is a nose attack haha. I still love Koromori though, just because it's cute whether the heart-thing is an eye, nose, or anything else. Anyone know the exact type of bat it's based upon?I'm pretty sure it makes more sense for Koromori to stamp other Pokémon with its nose than with its eyes ;)

Well, at least I'd never ever try hitting someone with my eyes, the only one to get hurt would be me! :p

Then again, hitting someone with your nose won't have a lot of effect either, but oh well, it's Pokémon after all.

MetalFlygon08
27th September 2010, 8:45 PM
I still think the lizard's are kind of both thug and saggy, thug from their typing, and fasion since the skin forms saggy pants, and the evolved form is chewing somting (gum?)

Aether13
27th September 2010, 8:50 PM
I don't know. I think calling Zuruggu and it's evolved form the "thug" Pokemon is just wrong. It's stereotypical in the extreme; just because their pants are sagging doesn't mean they're necessarily based on thugs, more like it's based on the Sagging fashion as a whole. There's a difference between people and fashion in my opinion and although people wear fashionable clothes, people and fashion aren't interchangable, and it this case, Pokemon and fashion aren't interchangable either.

Is it really stereotyping when it's classified as the "Scoundrel" Pokemon and synonyms of scoundrel include "bad news, black sheep, blackguard, caitiff, cheat, creep, crook, dastard, good-for-nothing, heel, imp, incorrigible, lowlife, maggot, mischiefmaker, miscreant, rascal, scamp, thief, bvagabond, villain, wretch "?

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 8:53 PM
I use Benton Movie GIF, and Paint, it allows more freedom imo, since I can edit each frame individually, adjust the speed (aka put them all at 5 intstead of the random 8, 10, 3, and 4 I've been finding)

and the result of 5 minutes of work is this http://www.iaza.com/work/100928C/Deathkan35092.gif

While it looks like a lot, once you find the loop points your really only doing 20 frames, and just repeatng them a few times.

Hm, well I can do that all in Fireworks. I've been leaving the times as they were though, as I thought they were the official ripped animations. Hmm lemme try something..

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/3017/buchurunoshadow.gif original breaks

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1823/bachurunoshadow5secs.gif 5/100 breaks


Guess it does look better with only 5.

Joe.
27th September 2010, 8:54 PM
Later in the game you find a bunch of thug and biker trainers who use them, and pretty much only them, just thought that was worth mentioning.

gonzomsn
27th September 2010, 8:55 PM
i think that the pokemon gantoru, is very strange and ugly, i hate that pokemon but i like its evolution, Gigaiasu!!

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 8:57 PM
I'm pretty sure it makes more sense for Koromori to stamp other Pokémon with its nose than with its eyes ;)

Well, at least I'd never ever try hitting someone with my eyes, the only one to get hurt would be me! :p

Then again, hitting someone with your nose won't have a lot of effect either, but oh well, it's Pokémon after all.

Would it be considered sexual assault for this guy,

http://armaina.com/pokemon/Warubiaru%20Front.gif

to hit someone with his nose?

gonzomsn
27th September 2010, 8:59 PM
lol.
Hey, where did you get that pic with the pokemon moving.
I'm trying to get one with the ononokusu

Lorde
27th September 2010, 9:02 PM
It's based on a real bat.

Another pic:
http://www.arkive.org/media/AC/AC545697-BD11-48EB-8015-A1C4A22D5726/Presentation.Large/photo.jpg

A different (I think), but similar bat
http://www.bats.org.uk/data/images/threats/white_nose_al_hicks_nydeccrop.jpg

Oh my goodness, those are some wickedly cute bats right there. I didn't know Koromori was based off of such cute creatures, mostly because I didn't think that bats could be so cute. We have black bats here where I live and they're also pretty small but they're not as cute as these light-colored bats. It makes me appreciate Koromori even more now haha. I know what I'm getting for Christmas~


Is it really stereotyping when it's classified as the "Scoundrel" Pokemon

It is when people start labeling Zuruggu and it's evolved form as being based off of Latino or African American thugs. I haven't seen it much in this thread, but I have in others on other forums :[

Kreis
27th September 2010, 9:06 PM
Oh my goodness, those are some wickedly cute bats right there. I didn't know Koromori was based off of such cute creatures, mostly because I didn't think that bats could be so cute. We have bats here where I live and they're also pretty small but they're not as cute as these light-colored bats. It makes me appreciate Koromori even more now haha. I know what I'm getting for Christmas~



It's is when people start labeling Zuruggu and it's evolved form as being based off of Latino or African American thugs. I haven't seen it much in this thread, but I have in others on other forums.

And that's going to be people's fault for assuming that, because the Pokemon show no indication of race. If people believe that, that's simply stupidity on their part.

CyndaquilRules
27th September 2010, 9:08 PM
Oh my goodness, those are some wickedly cute bats right there. I didn't know Koromori was based off of such cute creatures, mostly because I didn't think that bats could be so cute. We have black bats here where I live and they're also pretty small but they're not as cute as these light-colored bats. It makes me appreciate Koromori even more now haha. I know what I'm getting for Christmas~





Those bats creeped me out.

MetalFlygon08
27th September 2010, 9:14 PM
http://www.iaza.com/work/100928C/koromori88394.gif I fixed your koromori, it had a jumpy last frame.

and here you go joe, http://www.iaza.com/work/100928C/doryuuzu32702.gif

kentasaiba
27th September 2010, 9:16 PM
http://armaina.com/pokemon/Warubiaru%20Front.gif


Burner :)

:meowthbal