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Silent Conversation
16th May 2011, 11:53 PM
I understand that a flying animal can dig underground. Just because a Pokemon can fly doesn't mean it has to do all the time.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
16th May 2011, 11:53 PM
Yeah exactly. Levitating underground on the other hand, doesn't make any sense

Silent Conversation
16th May 2011, 11:55 PM
But again, I just think that creating an entire rule and then deleting that rule for two specific moves would complicate things programming wise, so they just hoped that nobody would notice and/or care.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
16th May 2011, 11:56 PM
Well I guess. Plus it would make dig + levitate kind of cheap...

Typhlosionvsworld
16th May 2011, 11:57 PM
True. They might as well have refused access to dig to levitaters.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
16th May 2011, 11:58 PM
Yeah I think they should have done that

Silent Conversation
16th May 2011, 11:59 PM
Yeah, that would have been the most rational solution, but what's done is done.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:00 AM
Makes my life easier. Since Ninjask can't use EQ, I use Dig for coverage.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:00 AM
Yeah and I guess it isn't THAT big of a deal. It still makes no sense though

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:01 AM
Eh...lazy programmers=Stronger Pokemon

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:02 AM
I don't think they were lazy. I just think they compromised logic for non broken mechanics

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:07 AM
The only way to find out is to ask them.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:09 AM
And I doubt any of us will be doing that anytime soon.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:10 AM
Why bother? They'll just fix it and ruin a great way to get coverage.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:11 AM
Yeah exactly. It's a very good thing mechanics wise, but bad logic wise. And frankly, mechanics is more important to me than logic

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:13 AM
And considering we have no say in how logical GameFreak is, mechanics being more important is the more reasonable opinion.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:13 AM
Yeah. Like all the Pokemon glitches. When Nintendo was notified of the D/P cloning glitch, they rectified it in Pt onward. I am angry that I missed out on such a wonderful glitch.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:14 AM
Yeah me too, it sounded so awesome.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:14 AM
Cloning is overrated

BCVM22
17th May 2011, 12:16 AM
Yeah. Like all the Pokemon glitches. When Nintendo was notified of the D/P cloning glitch, they rectified it in Pt onward. I am angry that I missed out on such a wonderful glitch.

How dare a programming company go back and correct a mistake they made. Sons of pigdogs, they are.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:17 AM
How dare a programming company go back and correct a mistake they made. Sons of pigdogs, they are.

I don't think he's upset they changed it, I think he's upset that they changed it before he got to try it.

BCVM22
17th May 2011, 12:19 AM
The two are so very different, yes.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:21 AM
Well they are. He could have agreed with it being removed, but just out of curiosity he could have wanted to try it.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:23 AM
I don't think he's upset they changed it, I think he's upset that they changed it before he got to try it.

That's pretty much it. iI would have loved to clone my Mewtwo, and then trade out the clones other other legends.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:26 AM
But why don't you just go play Diamond and clone your Pokemon?

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:28 AM
But why don't you just go play Diamond and clone your Pokemon?

I don't have it, and my mom said no more pokemon games.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:33 AM
I don't have it, and my mom said no more pokemon games.

Lol, what are you, 10?

edit: *checks page to see he actually is 10*

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:33 AM
Lol, what are you, 10?

Um... he is, actually.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:34 AM
Um... he is, actually.

I am aware of this. I edited my post

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:35 AM
I am aware of this. I edited my post

You are probably wondering why a 10 year old is on Serebii.

ZekeTG
17th May 2011, 12:37 AM
Hmmm, how do the wings work, the ones you find on the bridges? :)

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:38 AM
You are probably wondering why a 10 year old is on Serebii.

Not really. I was 11 when I joined serebii

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:39 AM
Hmmm, how do the wings work, the ones you find on the bridges? :)

Each wing increases a specific stat one EV point.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:40 AM
Not really. I was 11 when I joined serebii

Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who joined as a kid.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:40 AM
Hey, I joined when I was 9, and you're far more mature now than I was a year after I had joined.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:41 AM
Good, I'm glad I'm not the only one who joined as a kid.

A lot of people were young when they joined

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:42 AM
Hey, I joined when I was 9, and you're far more mature now than I was a year after I had joined.

Do you mean by post count or by what I say?

ZekeTG
17th May 2011, 12:42 AM
Each wing increases a specific stat one EV point.

So I gave ten of them to one of my Pokemon yesterday, is that pointless? :S

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:43 AM
So I gave ten of them to one of my Pokemon yesterday, is that pointless? :S

No. 4 EVs increases a Pokemon's stat by 1 point in the long run, so provided the 10 Wings were all the same type of wing, the stat that they effect will go up 2 extra points if you level it up a bit.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:43 AM
Do you mean by post count or by what I say?

By what you say. I took you as much older than what you are

ZekeTG
17th May 2011, 12:44 AM
No. 4 EVs increases a Pokemon's stat by 1 point in the long run, so provided the 10 Wings were all the same type of wing, the stat that they effect will go up 2 extra points if you level it up a bit.

Ahh, thank you. :)

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:45 AM
By what you say. I took you as much older than what you are

That's cuz I'm smart.

Anyway, I wonder why Kyurem eats people.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:46 AM
He enjoys the taste, I assume?

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:46 AM
That's cuz I'm smart.

Anyway, I wonder why Kyurem eats people.

Where was it said Kyurem eats people?

Mister_SGG
17th May 2011, 12:46 AM
Anyway, I wonder why Kyurem eats people.

Why does Beautifly have such crappy stats? These are all good questions.

BabyZero
17th May 2011, 12:50 AM
EV training question:
Why would/should I EV train in Def/Sp.Def? Wouldn't EV training HP be like if you had done both Def and Sp.Def?

Mister_SGG
17th May 2011, 12:53 AM
EV training question:
Why would/should I EV train in Def/Sp.Def? Wouldn't EV training HP be like if you had done both Def and Sp.Def?

No... not at all.

BCVM22
17th May 2011, 12:53 AM
The best simplification is that HP is, literally, a numeric measure of how many attacks you can take before you faint.

Defense and Special Defense actually affect how much damage those attacks will do to you, making you able to take more of them before you run out of HP.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:54 AM
Where was it said Kyurem eats people?

I have heard it from other site users. It supposedly says so in the Pokedex entry?

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:55 AM
It actually doesn't. Its Dex entry just mentions random facts about how cold it is.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:56 AM
It actually doesn't. Its Dex entry just mentions random facts about how cold it is.

Oh. Ok. Scratch what I said then.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 12:56 AM
Kyurem eats people because it used to be very fat. Convinced to by its shallow girlfriend that it only managed to obtain while she was on the rebound, it went on a diet. However, as it was losing weight, it had trouble following the diet and gained all of its weight back. Its girlfriend, very upset, decided to leave Kyurem because she couldn't take all of the instability with its weight (she really cares about her boyfriend's appearance). However, as soon as she left it, the emotional trauma made Kyurem realize that it really did care about losing weight, and not just to satisfy its girlfriend. It then started to eat healthy and eventually became skinny, and went to go get its girlfriend back. However, its girlfriend had moved on. It then ate them and realized how good humans tasted and started eating humans

Mister_SGG
17th May 2011, 12:56 AM
It actually doesn't. Its Dex entry just mentions random facts about how cold it is.

I hear it's so cold it pushed a little puppy off a cliff.

Mister_SGG
17th May 2011, 12:57 AM
Can you explain it a bit?
If you have more HP then you can probably survive a hit from either Attack or Sp.Atk but if train only Def or Sp.Def then you take more dmg from the one you didn't train and it can kill you.

Well, BCVM22 explained it really well.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:58 AM
I hear it's so cold it pushed a little puppy off a cliff.

CORNY JOKE!!!

Anyway, am I the only one who thinks Garbodor was a stupid idea?

はるひ
17th May 2011, 12:58 AM
I dont think any Pokemon is mad enough to eat PEOPLE D:

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 12:58 AM
I hear it's so cold it pushed a little puppy off a cliff.

Wow, that's cold.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 12:58 AM
Wow, that's cold.

Very cold indeed.

Mister_SGG
17th May 2011, 1:00 AM
Very cold indeed.

Poor little puppy...

BabyZero
17th May 2011, 1:01 AM
The best simplification is that HP is, literally, a numeric measure of how many attacks you can take before you faint.

Defense and Special Defense actually affect how much damage those attacks will do to you, making you able to take more of them before you run out of HP.

Well then, in what situation should I EV train in HP? Or is it useless to do that?
Is it better to do 128 points in both Def and Sp.Def than train those points in HP?


Well, BCVM22 explained it really well.

I deleted that post after seeing his post explaining it.

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 1:03 AM
Poor little puppy...

Lenora should avenge it with her Lillipup.

はるひ
17th May 2011, 1:05 AM
Meaning how cold Kuyem is?

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 1:07 AM
Yes, -Silver-.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 1:09 AM
Did anyone enjoy my reasoning on why Kyurem eats people?

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 1:10 AM
Uh... sure?

はるひ
17th May 2011, 1:10 AM
Again wat Pokemon would eat people? D:

Mister_SGG
17th May 2011, 1:11 AM
Did anyone enjoy my reasoning on why Kyurem eats people?

Okay. Sure.

Hey... does anyone think the Badge names are getting uncreative? Like... the Plain Badge?

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 1:11 AM
Again wat Pokemon would eat people? D:

Read my explanation

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 1:14 AM
Hey... does anyone think the Badge names are getting uncreative? Like... the Plain Badge?

Well, the Plain Badge is from Gen 2, so if that's the case then the badge names aren't just getting uncreative.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 1:17 AM
What's Lenora's badge called again?

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 1:17 AM
Read my explanation

And where would said explanation be? I don't see a post you made explaining it.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 1:17 AM
What's Lenora's badge called again?

The Basic Badge.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 1:17 AM
Kyurem eats people because it used to be very fat. Convinced to by its shallow girlfriend that it only managed to obtain while she was on the rebound, it went on a diet. However, as it was losing weight, it had trouble following the diet and gained all of its weight back. Its girlfriend, very upset, decided to leave Kyurem because she couldn't take all of the instability with its weight (she really cares about her boyfriend's appearance). However, as soon as she left it, the emotional trauma made Kyurem realize that it really did care about losing weight, and not just to satisfy its girlfriend. It then started to eat healthy and eventually became skinny, and went to go get its girlfriend back. However, its girlfriend had moved on. It then ate them and realized how good humans tasted and started eating humans


And where would said explanation be? I don't see a post you made explaining it.
There you go

BabyZero
17th May 2011, 1:19 AM
What's Lenora's badge called again?

The Basic Badge

Edit: I got beaten! :O

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 1:20 AM
There you go

Ok. I guess it is pretty funny.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 1:20 AM
Ok. I guess it is pretty funny.
Thank you, I do try

Typhlosionvsworld
17th May 2011, 1:21 AM
Thank you, I do try

People are funnier when they don't try too hard.

DestroyerOfWorlds
17th May 2011, 2:00 AM
I hear it's so cold it pushed a little puppy off a cliff.

The puppy probably had it coming. And I think the whole "Kyurem eats people" thing came from the dialogue in Lacunosa about a monster coming out at night... in which case it's a meaningless local superstition, like Hydreigon only having one mind. As for the number of brains....

Burakoru
17th May 2011, 2:05 AM
Yah.............but I agree on names of badges getting uncreative.
Basic Badge, very basic.

BCVM22
17th May 2011, 2:07 AM
You live up to your name very well. As in, "you must Bekidding".

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 2:14 AM
You live up to your name very well. As in, "you must Bekidding".

I find it hilarious how you posted this in two different threads at the same time.

Burakoru
17th May 2011, 2:16 AM
Yes, yes, it's hilarious and cliche.
Now, if you could travel the pokemon world with only one non-legend, which would it be?
Deino, then it evolves into the mighty Hydreigon at some point.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 2:18 AM
Gallade, just because it's my favourite Pokemon.

Ropav
17th May 2011, 2:30 AM
I would travel with a Eevee,because Eevee is my favorite pokemon.

Larry
17th May 2011, 2:31 AM
Yah.............but I agree on names of badges getting uncreative.
Basic Badge, very basic.

How was the Boulder Badge creative?

Burakoru
17th May 2011, 2:32 AM
Rock=Boulder, no brainer.
Jet Badge=Jet=Flying
Icicle Badge=Icicle=Ice

Larry
17th May 2011, 2:34 AM
Rock=Boulder, no brainer.
Jet Badge=Jet=Flying
Icicle Badge=Icicle=Ice

I know but you're saying that the badges are just now becoming uncreative.

Burakoru
17th May 2011, 2:35 AM
I just can't remember any new ones besides Jet & Basic, but they're actually, now that I think about it, all unoriginal.
End of discussion.

Larry
17th May 2011, 2:37 AM
Which is why I brought up Boulder Badge...

Burakoru
17th May 2011, 2:39 AM
Ah, okay, that makes sense.
So...........back on topic, 5th GENERATION DISCUSSION.
Who's your fav of gym leaders? Male & Female.
Female: Tie between Elesa and Skyla
Male: Brycen

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 2:49 AM
Female: Elesa (reminds me of Lady Gaga, which I like)
Male: Cress (goth people FTW!)

DazedMinezumi
17th May 2011, 3:05 AM
Not really. I was 11 when I joined serebii


How many people saw this post, looked at the join date, and did the mental math to figure out his age? And was about to post something about it but changed your mind 'cuz you just knew that BCVM22 with perfect timing would just drop in, see your post and make a sarcastic comment like, "Good job, you can do basic math!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
;201-b;;201-c;;201-v;;201-m;22

KickAsh
17th May 2011, 3:07 AM
I just can't remember any new ones besides Jet & Basic, but they're actually, now that I think about it, all unoriginal.
End of discussion.
Well the Normal type doesn't exactly lend itself to many badge names. Plain Badge has been taken, the Balance Badge has been taken, and now so has the Basic Badge.

I like the Jet Badge. I think that's a cool name. In fact, I like all the badge names this generation, except for Burgh's Insect Badge. That one sucked. But the Bolt Badge was cool, Quake Badge was good, Legend Badge was really great.

I also like the Boulder Badge. That's a solid name.


Ah, okay, that makes sense.
So...........back on topic, 5th GENERATION DISCUSSION.
Who's your fav of gym leaders? Male & Female.
Female: Skyla as a design, Elesa as a character
Male: Drayden


Now, if you could travel the pokemon world with only one non-legend, which would it be?
Accelgor, Gallade, or Charizard. My 3 favorite Pokemon.
I also like the idea of traveling with an Eevee, because of the options you have for evolving it. I could make up my mind on the fly and decide "I want a Leafeon" or whatever.

Paradoxe
17th May 2011, 3:31 AM
Female: Elesa (reminds me of Lady Gaga, which I like)
Male: Cress (goth people FTW!)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5568765167_9d930ecf56.jpg

Female: I like Skyla. She seems shy but outgoing at the same time.
Male: Drayden. He seems BA.

The Pokemon I would carry is a Ditto. That's 500+ Pokemon in one.

yeminied
17th May 2011, 3:33 AM
I would travel around the Pokémon World with either Sudowoodo or Emolga, my two favourite Pokémon.

But I would say Emolga because it's so cute yet packs quite a punch.

Grei
17th May 2011, 3:37 AM
Yes, yes, it's hilarious and cliche.
Now, if you could travel the pokemon world with only one non-legend, which would it be?
Deino, then it evolves into the mighty Hydreigon at some point.

Oshawott (who would evolve) or Sewaddle (who would or would not evolve).

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 4:16 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5059/5568765167_9d930ecf56.jpg

What exactly is this referring to, my female choice or my male choice? (Or me in general, although that would be kinda harsh :p)

Burakoru
17th May 2011, 4:22 AM
We won't know because she's offline.
Choices of Dragons.
Haxorus vs. Hydreigon?
Hydreigon, just because.

BCVM22
17th May 2011, 4:29 AM
Haxorus is fast and it's an Attack beast, particularly with Mold Breaker.

Hydreigon can very capably go mixed with the right nature and moveset, and Levitate is good, but in being part-Dark, it also gains weakness to Fighting and Bug, two types very common in-game in Unova. Raising it through Deino and Zweilous can also be a hell of a chore; I can't speak to how useful Axew and Fraxure are.

It all depends what you want. I use a mixed Hydreigon and I'm quite happy with it.

Ang3l
17th May 2011, 4:51 AM
Does anyone know when Meloetta, Genesect and Keldeo will be made available to Australia?

MetalFlygon08
17th May 2011, 4:51 AM
I'd travel with a Minccino, I just love how cute that dang thing is!

BCVM22
17th May 2011, 4:59 AM
Does anyone know when Meloetta, Genesect and Keldeo will be made available to Australia?

When the events are made available in Japan, start counting down to when they're available in America. When they make it to North America, then you can start counting down to when Europe and Australia get them. Until the first in that sequence happens, stop asking.

People know what you know because we all get the information from the same source. In following those sources, it is impossible that you will get the information any later than anyone else.

Furthermore, searching any one of the words "Genesect", "Keldeo", "Meloetta" or "events" in this thread alone, much less this subforum, would have given you that answer and would have saved you the trouble of posting and then getting the ensuing speech for asking a question that people should know has no answer yet.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 6:00 PM
I'd travel with a Minccino, I just love how cute that dang thing is!

Yes, but it has chest hair

Aquanova
17th May 2011, 6:04 PM
Who here likes Leavanny? I just added a Sewaddle to my White team.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 6:10 PM
I like Leavnny! I used it on my team too

Robotic Wind
17th May 2011, 6:10 PM
I've never used Sewaddle before...

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 6:12 PM
I've never used Sewaddle before...

You should.

Ultimate Glalie
17th May 2011, 6:46 PM
Leavanny's great to use in-game. It's very useful for the Elite Four.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 6:55 PM
Incredibly useful.

bushie
17th May 2011, 6:58 PM
according to the legends reshiram and zekrom were once one dragon.what if kyurem started attacking unova and reshiram/zekrom try to fight back but there not strong enough so they did the fusion dance and become RESKROM. its all hypothetical wouldn't that be awesome

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 6:58 PM
Nah, people speculate Kyurem is the remains of that original dragon.

bushie
17th May 2011, 7:09 PM
i'm waiting for the news on the next pokemon game depends on what it is i'm buying black. i just love unova and the storyline,the legends and all. i'm almost complete my dex on white so besides dw collecting i'm basically done.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 7:15 PM
I see.
10charlimit

jscholfield
17th May 2011, 7:15 PM
When the events are made available in Japan, start counting down to when they're available in America. When they make it to North America, then you can start counting down to when Europe and Australia get them. Until the first in that sequence happens, stop asking.

People know what you know because we all get the information from the same source. In following those sources, it is impossible that you will get the information any later than anyone else.

Furthermore, searching any one of the words "Genesect", "Keldeo", "Meloetta" or "events" in this thread alone, much less this subforum, would have given you that answer and would have saved you the trouble of posting and then getting the ensuing speech for asking a question that people should know has no answer yet.

wait how do you know america will get it before uk

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 7:23 PM
wait how do you know america will get it before uk

Because they usually do

jscholfield
17th May 2011, 7:38 PM
Because they usually do

who got the game first and the victini event

Blazios
17th May 2011, 7:45 PM
who got the game first and the victini event

We got the game first for the first time ever, and it was only by 2 days, not months like the other games were.

Also, America's already had a B/W event that's probably never going to the UK, so the thought of us getting any events before them is laughable.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 7:46 PM
I got the Victini event.

LoneKiller1992
17th May 2011, 7:56 PM
RESKROM

Lol. Sounds like some Digemon reject :P

Would be pretty cool though.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 7:58 PM
Nah, I think the fusion is Kyurem

jscholfield
17th May 2011, 7:59 PM
We got the game first for the first time ever, and it was only by 2 days, not months like the other games were.

Also, America's already had a B/W event that's probably never going to the UK, so the thought of us getting any events before them is laughable.

what event is that?

Ultimate Glalie
17th May 2011, 8:17 PM
what event is that?The Mystery Egg event.

http://www.serebii.net/games/currentevents.shtml

Matt36
17th May 2011, 8:23 PM
Europe really get shafted when it comes to events.

jscholfield
17th May 2011, 8:34 PM
on quick question you know that 10th year mew event did that ever make it out of japan

Ultimate Glalie
17th May 2011, 8:46 PM
on quick question you know that 10th year mew event did that ever make it out of japanYes, it was available over Wi-Fi in October last year.

http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/151.shtml

bushie
17th May 2011, 9:00 PM
isn't all random because black/white came out in the uk before america so isn't all random usually japan first then NA then UK and so on. how abouts these events. i was looking at the events on serebii yu know jpn one. the tru eggs,victini,barkout(snarl) zoroark,cubchoo i know we might get the 3 reamaining legends but so far these events are not too good. i mean we got mew,jirachi,shiny dogs,manaphy in the pre gen those were awesome. just my opinion. i meant wifi events

Will-powered Spriter
17th May 2011, 9:49 PM
isn't all random because black/white came out in the uk before america so isn't all random usually japan first then NA then UK and so on.

The games came out within the same week, but the UK typically releases games on a Friday compared to the US's Sunday. For most intents and purposes this can be considered releasing at the same time.

Wifi-events don't need such timing, so they're always going to follow the pattern.

silicon
17th May 2011, 9:54 PM
The games came out within the same week, but the UK typically releases games on a Friday compared to the US's Sunday. For most intents and purposes this can be considered releasing at the same time.

Wifi-events don't need such timing, so they're always going to follow the pattern.

Just a tiny nitpick here: games typically come out on Tuesday in the US, though I have noticed more larger releases (particularly larger Nintendo releases) coming out on Sunday recently. The point still stands though, for all intents and purposes you could consider the games to have been released at the same time.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
17th May 2011, 10:00 PM
Nintendo releases their games on Sundays, but Microsoft and Sony release their games on a Tuesday

The Eleventh
17th May 2011, 10:25 PM
Europe really get shafted when it comes to events.
It really does, doesn't it? And when events do come, they're usually in-store events. I really don't understand why Wi-Fi events can't be the only kind of events. In-store events do nothing for shops anyway, as most people go to the shop only to download the event, and not to purchase.

R_N
17th May 2011, 10:31 PM
It really does, doesn't it? And when events do come, they're usually in-store events. I really don't understand why Wi-Fi events can't be the only kind of events. In-store events do nothing for shops anyway, as most people go to the shop only to download the event, and not to purchase.

Nope, guarantee you that some, though not all, people do shop while they're there.

Silent Conversation
17th May 2011, 11:18 PM
It's the same reason why infomercials exist, really - most people just take them as a joke and move on with their lives, but the odd person gets really interested in it and ends up buying the product.

I know that's a really bad comparison, but hopefully you understand what I mean.

bushie
18th May 2011, 5:13 AM
gamestop to me is no prob very close to where i live toys r us however is a bit of a problem. hopefully the next event is over wifi and three remaining legends will also be over wifi. my tru egg=pidove

Silent Conversation
18th May 2011, 5:16 AM
The event legendaries are almost always Wi-fi events, as they want to ensure that everybody has the chance to get the event legendaries.

BCVM22
18th May 2011, 5:17 AM
hopefully the next event is over wifi and three remaining legends will also be over wifi

Depending on what the "next event" is, maybe, but as the Crown Beasts and movie Celebi showed, the movie-related events are still first-run in stores. Maybe over Wi-Fi later on if you're lucky.

It's been made as clear as can be: they hold the biggest events - usually the movie-related ones and not coincidentally, the means by which the event Legendaries are dispersed - in stores to boost merchandise sales. Nothing wrong with that. Live it, learn it, know it, love it.

bushie
18th May 2011, 5:22 AM
like everyone i prefer wifi events. in store events no problem as long as its gamestop not toy r us. TRS is far from where i live but gamestop is right up the street.

yeminied
18th May 2011, 5:34 AM
Of course I prefer WiFi events because in New Zealand there are no Gamestop's or Toys r Us therefore no in-store events which is a shame because I would really love to get some of those events. If they did I would have a Celebi.

BCVM22
18th May 2011, 5:36 AM
Toys R' Us locations are bigger and have actual merchandise on shelves, though. It's not coincidence that those locations are where they held the events for Generation IV's Legendaries and that they're holding another event there now.

bushie
18th May 2011, 4:05 PM
but the thing about in store events i always feel i have to buy something when i go. it sounds stupid but yu know...

manifesto
18th May 2011, 4:22 PM
Well that's the point of them isn't it? I usually just go in, get the event and leave. But I guess it's not as easy for some people to resist the stuff in these stores. D:

Meowth City
18th May 2011, 4:30 PM
It really does, doesn't it? And when events do come, they're usually in-store events. I really don't understand why Wi-Fi events can't be the only kind of events. In-store events do nothing for shops anyway, as most people go to the shop only to download the event, and not to purchase.
At last year's UK GAME event for HGSS, not only could you download the legendary Arceus and Pikachu-Colored Pichu, you could also get a free Arceus figure with every Pokemon-related purchase. I got one from the GAME in London's Oxford Street.
Here's a picture of mine: (damn I forgot to rotate it)
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/300/p1805111521.jpg

Geekachu
18th May 2011, 5:01 PM
I always forget about the events. I remember once in the UK they had this one for Regigas in a shopping centre, and I actually went to it, went shopping first and eventually forgot. I sooo prefer Wi-Fi.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
18th May 2011, 6:24 PM
I don't like game events because I'm too lazy to go to the store, and before I wouldn't be able to do wifi events because my DS wasn't compatible with my router...

Pichu47
18th May 2011, 6:32 PM
I like the WI-Fi events a lot better. Then i don't even have to get off the couch to get a new poke.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
18th May 2011, 6:34 PM
Except I don't understand why some events are still via store, like the Celebi event...

BCVM22
18th May 2011, 8:41 PM
You're not sure why they held four events in a chain of video game stores in the two months leading up to the release of a new Pokémon game?

Think. Hard.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
18th May 2011, 8:43 PM
Hmm...didn't think of that.

Grey Wind
18th May 2011, 9:38 PM
I don't like game events because I'm too lazy to go to the store, and before I wouldn't be able to do wifi events because my DS wasn't compatible with my router...
I know, I hate that WPA won't work with the DS.
And Ireland doesn't even have any stores to get events at, regardless of whether I'm lazy or not.

Silent Conversation
18th May 2011, 11:05 PM
I don't like game events because I'm too lazy to go to the store,

That may be the most ridiculous reason to dislike the in store events I have ever read.

LoneKiller1992
19th May 2011, 12:18 AM
Yanno the Masuda Method? Would that still work with a Japanese ditto?

That way I can just keep it in day care and breed all of my other pokémon with it, to hunt for shinies.

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 12:29 AM
Yes, it would. Most people use a Japanese Ditto for the Masuda Method.

LoneKiller1992
19th May 2011, 12:31 AM
Yes, it would. Most people use a Japanese Ditto for the Masuda Method.
Alright. Thanks :)

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 2:01 AM
That may be the most ridiculous reason to dislike the in store events I have ever read.

Really? What are some more common reasons?

Blazios
19th May 2011, 2:02 AM
Really? What are some more common reasons?

Being unable to travel, there not being any stores holding it in the area, there not being any stores holding it in the country...

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 2:03 AM
Being unable to travel, there not being any stores holding it in the area, there not being any stores in the country...

Hmm...true.

Typhlosionvsworld
19th May 2011, 2:04 AM
Except I don't understand why some events are still via store, like the Celebi event...

To promote stores and make them rarer???

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 2:05 AM
To promote stores and make them rarer???

Thank you but BCVM22 explained it.

It's just I thought Gamefreak/NoA decided if the stores will be giving away the Pokemon over wifi, not the stores themselves

BCVM22
19th May 2011, 2:19 AM
It's just I thought Gamefreak/NoA decided if the stores will be giving away the Pokemon over wifi

NoA does. Game Freak themselves have no hand in deciding the international marketing or promotion.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 2:26 AM
NoA does. Game Freak themselves have no hand in deciding the international marketing or promotion.

But why would NoA care if like Gamestop for example gets more publicity?

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 2:27 AM
They probably have some sort of partnership with Gamestop and Toys R Us, considering no other store like Target or Walmart ever gets these events.

BCVM22
19th May 2011, 2:51 AM
But why would NoA care if like Gamestop for example gets more publicity?

They don't. GameStop is the only dedicated video game retailer in North America. And with that out of the way, a game retailer is where you want your fanbase to congregate at if you have a big release coming out that you want them to pre-order, is it not?

That's both halves of the partnership: Nintendo gets gamers buying or pre-ordering their productions, GameStop gets people in their stores spending money.


They probably have some sort of partnership with Gamestop and Toys R Us, considering no other store like Target or Walmart ever gets these events.

Because Toys 'R Us is the only dedicated toy retailer in North America. Target and Wal-Mart are department stores with a minimum of their floor space devoted to kids merchandise, much less video games.

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 3:07 AM
So in summary, it's basically a you scratch my back, I scratch yours kind of thing.

Typhlosionvsworld
19th May 2011, 3:09 AM
So in summary, it's basically a you scratch my back, I scratch yours kind of thing.

Seems like it to me. They do favors for each other in the form of advertisement.

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 3:10 AM
Which makes perfect sense, so it's understandable why they have in-store events.

Typhlosionvsworld
19th May 2011, 3:12 AM
Still, it make it harder to obtain certain legendaries.

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 3:13 AM
Of course it's harder (I live in Canada so some of the events I can't even access because they're US only), but you do understand where Nintendo of America is coming from.

BCVM22
19th May 2011, 3:18 AM
So in summary, it's basically a you scratch my back, I scratch yours kind of thing.

That's the very definition of a business partnership, no?


Still, it make it harder to obtain certain legendaries.

It's supposed to be harder. The keystone of any system of collectibles - stamps, figurines, stuffed toys, whatever - is manufactured scarcity. And enough of the country lives within reasonable travel distance of a TRU or a GameStop that if you really, really want the event critter that badly, you can drive and get one.

If you really don't live within reasonable travel distance of whatever retail chain is holding the event, that's unfortunate, but nothing more. When they hold them in-store, people complain they don't have a store nearby or can't get there, and when they hold them via Wi-Fi, people complain they don't have Wi-Fi or can't get their DS to work or whatever their favorite excuse is.

The point of events is not to get the critter into the hands of every gamer, because that's literally impossible, but to get them into the hands of as many as possible. And they do that. If they weren't doing that, they wouldn't hold the events as they do.

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 3:24 AM
That's the very definition of a business partnership, no?

Yes it is - all my comment was doing was simply summing up the conversation, not adding anything to it.

iShock
19th May 2011, 3:51 AM
Why didn't any of the online places tell us there was going to be a Victini event in Australia? The ads told me, but still...

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 4:10 AM
I just wish all events were via wifi

BCVM22
19th May 2011, 4:15 AM
You're gonna make us start the whole explanation over again, aren't you?

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 4:16 AM
I just wish all events were via wifi


You're gonna make us start the whole explanation over again, aren't you?

Exactly my thoughts :p

Porygandrew
19th May 2011, 4:22 AM
I just got the opportunity to start pokeshifting 4th gen over to my Black game. Anyone else find out they're running out of space REALLY fast? I got my legendaries, my teams, and my shinies transferring, but I barely have any space left to go - especially if I'm going to try to get all the Dream World pokemon.
Let's hope the R/S remake comes soon!

BCVM22
19th May 2011, 4:22 AM
Have you expanded your number of boxes to the fullest?

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 4:22 AM
I get why it isn't I still wish it would be...

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 4:28 AM
Well, some events will still remain to be in-store events, so there's nothing we can do about it.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 4:36 AM
Sigh fair enough

We can go on strike or form a riot

Matt36
19th May 2011, 4:38 AM
At least America get events, even if they're in store...unlike us English ¬.¬

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 4:40 AM
Another reason why I prefer wifi events is that some store events aren't available in Canada

Matt36
19th May 2011, 4:42 AM
Another reason why I prefer wifi events is that some store events aren't available in Canada

I'm lucky where I live in England, we have one of every Major store, very very close. But I would rather just sit on the couch and use my Wi-Fi...even if its 1 every 3 years or something equally as crap :(

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 4:50 AM
We also have major stores but they usually don't provide the event as it is usually USA exclusive

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 4:52 AM
I'm lucky where I live in England, we have one of every Major store, very very close. But I would rather just sit on the couch and use my Wi-Fi...even if its 1 every 3 years or something equally as crap :(

I have a Gamestop 3 minutes away from my house and a Toys R Us 15 minutes away from my house... if only the stores actually had the events going on considering I don't live in the US :(

Matt36
19th May 2011, 4:53 AM
Thats a kick in the balls haha! :(

Paradoxe
19th May 2011, 5:09 AM
I have a Gamestop 3 minutes away from my house and a Toys R Us 15 minutes away from my house... if only the stores actually had the events going on considering I don't live in the US :(

Haha. City boy. The closest Toys R Us to me is an hour away. We have a GameStop on the other side of town, but I REFUSE to go there.

Matt36
19th May 2011, 5:12 AM
Why do you refuse to go there? Is It rough? I'm paranoid about taking my DS out of the house tbh. I tend to drop and break things a lot.

Paradoxe
19th May 2011, 5:14 AM
Why do you refuse to go there? Is It rough? I'm paranoid about taking my DS out of the house tbh. I tend to drop and break things a lot.

I personally think GameStop rips you off. $60 for a new game, but they only give you a dollar for trading in games.

Matt36
19th May 2011, 5:15 AM
I personally think GameStop rips you off. $60 for a new game, but they only give you a dollar for trading in games.

Really?? No wonder Americas Economy was a mess! That's very harsh business!

Paradoxe
19th May 2011, 5:17 AM
Really?? No wonder Americas Economy was a mess! That's very harsh business!

You know it's bad when Wal-effing-mart has better deals.

BCVM22
19th May 2011, 5:19 AM
I personally think GameStop rips you off. $60 for a new game, but they only give you a dollar for trading in games.

You're misrepresenting any number of things here.

First of all, $60 for a new game in what country and for what system? That's the going price of a new PS3/360 game in North America, set by the publisher and other parties, not GameStop.

Second, "only give you a dollar for trading in games" is generalizing in very inaccurate fashion. It depends entirely on what game you're trading in. You'll get more than a dollar if you're trading in a recent release for active hardware.

I'm sure your GameStop is no worse off for the loss of your business, regardless.

Matt36
19th May 2011, 5:20 AM
You know it's bad when Wal-effing-mart has better deals.

Haha ASDA over here xD Supermarkets here can afford to undercut big companies like HMV or GAME. People will buy the new release cheap, say for Ł30 instead of Ł40-Ł45 and then do their weekly shopping. Meanwhile ASDA gain a profit from their milk because you were attracted to their store by a special offer.

Paradoxe
19th May 2011, 5:25 AM
You're misrepresenting any number of things here.

First of all, $60 for a new game in what country and for what system? That's the going price of a new PS3/360 game in North America, set by the publisher and other parties, not GameStop.

Second, "only give you a dollar for trading in games" is generalizing in very inaccurate fashion. It depends entirely on what game you're trading in. You'll get more than a dollar if you're trading in a recent release for active hardware.

I'm sure your GameStop is no worse off for the loss of your business, regardless.

Well, Wal-mart's game prices go down after a few weeks, but GameStop rarely ever adjust their prices. And I traded in some games maybe a few months ago. I don't remember, but I didn't get much for LBP. And I got close to a whopping 35 cents for my Sapphire version. And I used a dollar as a rough estimate for Gamecube/DS games, because I traded in a bunch of those and got about a dollar for each of those.

And what's up with paying another 60 dollars for a PS3 controller?

Matt36
19th May 2011, 5:27 AM
I can agree with the PS3 controller prices, in any country they're expensive!

But we are swerving off topic here :p

BCVM22
19th May 2011, 5:31 AM
Well, Wal-mart's game prices go down after a few weeks, but GameStop rarely ever adjust their prices.

Do they? For the most recent, biggest releases? Check on that. Those are prices set by the publisher.


And I got close to a whopping 35 cents for my Sapphire version.

Your Sapphire version, a game for hardware two generations defunct, and a medium for which the last hardware capable of playing those games was just discontinued.

Certainly you can't be aware of this but still unsure as to why you got so little on the trade-in.


And I used a dollar as a rough estimate for Gamecube/DS games, because I traded in a bunch of those and got about a dollar for each of those.

For the GameCube titles, see the previous explanation and for the DS titles, I don't know what you traded in, but that you didn't get that much money per game is probably more a result of what you traded in.


And what's up with paying another 60 dollars for a PS3 controller?

Again, that's Sony setting prices, not GameStop.

A Wii Remote and Nunchuck or Classic Controller together cost $60 as well, for the record.

Silent Conversation
19th May 2011, 5:42 AM
Haha. City boy. The closest Toys R Us to me is an hour away. We have a GameStop on the other side of town, but I REFUSE to go there.

Well, if you live in the US, then at least your hour drive can get you to the actual event. If I want to drive to a place where the event will be, I have to drive over the border to Buffalo, and I am certainly not doing that just for a Pokemon event.

Matt36
19th May 2011, 5:46 AM
At least you have the option to do so. No way I'm hoping on a plane to cross an Ocean to get to an Event :P

Paradoxe
19th May 2011, 5:53 AM
Do they? For the most recent, biggest releases? Check on that. Those are prices set by the publisher.Again, that's Sony setting prices, not GameStop. A Wii Remote and Nunchuck or Classic Controller together cost $60 as well, for the record.

I never said it was GameStop setting the prices and not the publishers.

Now, back on topic!

Matt36
19th May 2011, 5:54 AM
I generally think, this is my least favourite Generation for Pokemon.

bobandbill
19th May 2011, 6:42 AM
As interesting as whether someone is a troll or not, that's most certainly not the point of this thread (not that this thread will necessarily remain open for longer, but anyway!) Cease the arguing and whatnot - if you feel someon is trolling or being rude, etc, just report instead of replying back, or reporting and replying back (there IS a rule against replying to spam among others after all).

Matt36
19th May 2011, 6:43 AM
As interesting as whether someone is a troll or not, that's most certainly not the point of this thread (not that this thread will necessarily remain open for longer, but anyway!) Cease the arguing and whatnot - if you feel someon is trolling or being rude, etc, just report instead of replying back, or reporting and replying back (there IS a rule against replying to spam among others after all).

Understood. I apologies to all associated with the argument.

EDIT: This thread getting locked? =/

DBK
19th May 2011, 6:43 AM
as interesting as whether someone is a troll or not, that's most certainly not the point of this thread (not that this thread will necessarily remain open for longer, but anyway!) cease the arguing and whatnot - if you feel someon is trolling or being rude, etc, just report instead of replying back, or reporting and replying back (there is a rule against replying to spam among others after all).

sir yes sir!!!!!

Matt36
19th May 2011, 7:20 AM
Sooo...back before we argued etc - I said that Gen V was my least favourite of the Generations.

What about everyone else's?

R_N
19th May 2011, 7:32 AM
Sooo...back before we argued etc - I said that Gen V was my least favourite of the Generations.

What about everyone else's?

Probably Gen 1 or 2
Not in terms of Pokemon, but mostly in terms of age
They really did not age well at all.

Ememew
19th May 2011, 7:41 AM
Probably Gen 2. I loved the fact that you could return to Kanto and see how things had changed during the time gap. I thought it would really be cool to see character growth/the aftermath of the past game's actions/etc. but there wasn't really much to do there. Yes, you fought 8 more Gym Leaders and Red, but there was not plot/story to motivate you to move forward. It was all just sort of . . . there. I would have preferred it if the post-game region had an actual plot to it as well, or if at least they gave your character some reason for fighting Red other than the fact that he was Red.

Matt36
19th May 2011, 7:43 AM
I never played Gold or Silver to recently, I kinda skipped a Generation.

ColorsofTheRainbow
19th May 2011, 2:01 PM
I never played Gold or Silver to recently, I kinda skipped a Generation.

Same. Well I actually had Crystal but it was the first pokemon game I ever had so I didn't really understand it, plus it got washed in the laundry. I'd have to say 2 Gen's my least favorite and 3 Gen's my favorite.

Icay4321
19th May 2011, 2:26 PM
I can't stand Gen III, I don't know why, but it just did not sit well with me. My favorite is Gen II, and that may be because they were my first games. Second favorite may or may not be Gen V, though Gen IV was my solid second favorite up until recently. Those two might be tied. My second to last favorite then is Gen I, and this one should probably be up there in the tie, too, because it's actually very good. But yeah, I hate Gen III.

bushie
19th May 2011, 3:16 PM
pretty soon walmart is going to have in store events. i love all gen games first i got was red version. i made through dark tunnel without flash. personally i love black/white unova is a great region. my third favorite after kanto/johto got to love the classics

Jb
19th May 2011, 3:57 PM
I like that we aren't really forced to use crappy HMs anymore.

Robotic Wind
19th May 2011, 4:13 PM
I can't stand Gen III, I don't know why, but it just did not sit well with me. But yeah, I hate Gen III.

Putting Masquerain, Claydol, Volbeat, Mightyena and Seviper aside as these are great pokemon but...

I HATE THE THIRD GENERATION AND I ARGEE WITH THE ABOVE QUOTE!

I have never been a fan of Generation 3...I guess its because of my hate for all three starters and the Ralts line...

The Eleventh
19th May 2011, 4:53 PM
My least favourite generation is Gen I, to be honest. Gen III had the games present in Gen I, along with a new region, so therefore it's my favourite. I'm waiting to see how Gen V pans out. :P

Geekachu
19th May 2011, 5:58 PM
People only dislike Generation III because of Ruby and Sapphire. They destroyed all we knew about the original 251 and started again (hence why Gen II was so popular since it was an awesome sequel) and the fact that it was incompatible with the previous Gens. I think Hoenn was eclipsed by all this negative stigma and what was actually quite a good region was blotted out by everyone saying how awful the third gen was.

Hoenn introduced so many diverse environments and to me is the best region nature wise and partly creative wise. Hoenn introduced a volcano with bubbling lava, a desert, a root bathed in ash, a golden cave filled with meteors... And city wise it had a town whose buildings were up in the trees, a city etched into the crater of a volcano, a village with walkways made of logs.

And Pokemon wise I think it introduced some really great designs, Seviper was really cool along with its counterpart, Zangoose, the Ralts line was a really graceful mysterious line, who could forget Aggron the badass metal dinosaur, Metagross and Salamence, two awesome pseudo-legendaries, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, the weather trio introduced legendaries that could catastrophically destroy the world...

If Hoenn recieves a remake (which I'm sure it will) it has so much potential to look brilliant and become one of the best regions.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 6:03 PM
My least favourite gen is probably generation I because of poor graphics and broken mechanics

Grey Wind
19th May 2011, 6:11 PM
People only dislike Generation III because of Ruby and Sapphire. They destroyed all we knew about the original 251 and started again (hence why Gen II was so popular since it was an awesome sequel) and the fact that it was incompatible with the previous Gens. I think Hoenn was eclipsed by all this negative stigma and what was actually quite a good region was blotted out by everyone saying how awful the third gen was.

Hoenn introduced so many diverse environments and to me is the best region nature wise and partly creative wise. Hoenn introduced a volcano with bubbling lava, a desert, a root bathed in ash, a golden cave filled with meteors... And city wise it had a town whose buildings were up in the trees, a city etched into the crater of a volcano, a village with walkways made of logs.

And Pokemon wise I think it introduced some really great designs, Seviper was really cool along with its counterpart, Zangoose, the Ralts line was a really graceful mysterious line, who could forget Aggron the badass metal dinosaur, Metagross and Salamence, two awesome pseudo-legendaries, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, the weather trio introduced legendaries that could catastrophically destroy the world...

If Hoenn recieves a remake (which I'm sure it will) it has so much potential to look brilliant and become one of the best regions.
I was going to do a long rant like this. Bah.

But yeah, Gen I was my least favourite...

Toge Tamer
19th May 2011, 6:13 PM
My favourite Gen is V and my least favourite is I.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 6:30 PM
My favourite gen is probably Gen V. IMO, the generations improve as it increases because of new moves and new mechanics. However, the games quality is a different story

Jb
19th May 2011, 6:33 PM
My least favourite gen is probably generation I because of poor graphics

Stop .

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 6:40 PM
stop .

AND broken mechanics!

Aurath8
19th May 2011, 6:56 PM
My least favourite Gen is II. It was full of so many kanto pokemon and seemed to take every oppurtunity to shun these away. Houndour is post-nat.dex only available in one Route at night. Sentret, the games normal type, only appears on the first route. Only Whitney, Jasmine, Pryce and Clair used Johto pokemon at all(Clair and Jasmine used evos too). And the land lacked any variation; it was grass, grass, grass, grass, cave, grass, forest, grass, grass, grass, grass, grass, water, water, cave, grass, grass, cave, grass etc.
Between the fifth and seventh gym there is no increase in levels because of the incredible uselessness of Mt. Mortar. This dungeon serves no purpose to anything apart from giving a hiding place to Tyrogue. If there was a simple strength boulder or just a man standing at the end of the route, then it wouldn't mean you can get to the location of the seventh gym badge before you have your fourth.
And as in HGSS there is no place for location based evolutions. The could've been a Moss Rock in Viridian Forest and an Ice Rock in Seafoam Islands. Mt. Silver or Mount Moon could be have Magnetism too.
But the worst thing is not addressing some of these issues in the remakes HGSS. I guess they spent so much time adding the tiniest of details such as the differrent noises when my fott lands on grass, beach, stone etc. that they didn't realise how flawed the region is.
But despite all this I still find a way to like the place. Least favourite =/= Most hated.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 6:58 PM
But it's a remake, they're not supposed to be drastically alter the region. If so, that would essentially be a new game

Robotic Wind
19th May 2011, 7:00 PM
Honestly I don't hate gen III because of it ws after gen II and "broke" the sequel...

I just ahte it due to the pokemon it has.

I think I hate it mainly due to the stater and the ralts line...

I'm not sure why I dislike the Ralts line...I just do...

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 7:02 PM
Gen III actually has my favourite Pokemon...

Pichu47
19th May 2011, 7:16 PM
Gen III actually has my favourite Pokemon...

Gen III was my favorite gen. It had epic pokemon, epic soundtrack, epic areas...etc

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 7:19 PM
The areas and soundtrack I judge based the games, not generation. Gen III was before the physical/special split so I don't like it

Pichu47
19th May 2011, 7:22 PM
The areas and soundtrack I judge based the games, not generation. Gen III was before the physical/special split so I don't like it


Back then I didn't play competitively and i was a noob. I didn't even know that it used to be based on typing until about a year ago when I bothered to look it up.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 7:23 PM
I don't play competitively, but the lack of physical/special split limits the Pokemon and moves I can use when I replay the game

Grey Wind
19th May 2011, 7:26 PM
Does anyone else absolutely hate the Poketransfer mini-game? The Pokemon just sit there in the grass...

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 7:27 PM
Yeah I dislike it too

Pichu47
19th May 2011, 7:28 PM
Does anyone else absolutely hate the Poketransfer mini-game? The Pokemon just sit there in the grass...


Gosh that's annoying. They just poke their head out and say, "nya nya." At least you can transfer as many as you want instead of just 6 a day

Grey Wind
19th May 2011, 7:30 PM
Yeah, that's the only good thing. I wish they could have just skipped it completely.

Kreis
19th May 2011, 7:36 PM
Does anyone else absolutely hate the Poketransfer mini-game? The Pokemon just sit there in the grass...

The mini game takes me less than 2 minutes to complete.

The trick to get them moving is to aim the ball towards the direction their head sticks out. Have your aimer ready. For example, in a patch a grass, I have my aimer on the left side of the patch. When the stationary Pokemon sticks its head out in the direction of my aimer, I release the Pokeball. When the Pokeball makes contact it will make the Pokemon start moving to other patches, therefore, now being able to be captured.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 7:37 PM
In HGSS you aren't limited to 6 a day...

Pichu47
19th May 2011, 7:40 PM
In HGSS you aren't limited to 6 a day...


But migrating from Gen III to DPP was a pain.

Robotic Wind
19th May 2011, 7:40 PM
Gen III actually has my favourite Pokemon...

Electivire isn't your favorite?

Grey Wind
19th May 2011, 7:42 PM
The mini game takes me less than 2 minutes to complete.

The trick to get them moving is to aim the ball towards the direction their head sticks out. Have your aimer ready. For example, in a patch a grass, I have my aimer on the left side of the patch. When the stationary Pokemon sticks its head out in the direction of my aimer, I release the Pokeball. When the Pokeball makes contact it will make the Pokemon start moving to other patches, therefore, now being able to be captured.
Thank you. This will make it so much easier. I was just sitting there looking at them wiating for them to move.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 7:59 PM
Electivire isn't your favorite?

It is. But I hate most other Gen IV Pokemon...

Pichu47
19th May 2011, 8:04 PM
It is. But I hate most other Gen IV Pokemon...


Personally, Gen IV was my least favorite gen. I don't reallly like most of the pokes at all. I don't like the legends either. However, I do like palkia. Oh well.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 8:18 PM
Really? I dislike Palkia a lot.

But I don't judge based on the new Pokemon's designs, because that is shallow. I personally love Gen IV for introducing all those new attacks and introducing the physical/special split

Pichu47
19th May 2011, 8:28 PM
Really? I dislike Palkia a lot.

But I don't judge based on the new Pokemon's designs, because that is shallow. I personally love Gen IV for introducing all those new attacks and introducing the physical/special split

The new attacks were pretty cool. The physical special split was awesome. Personally, I like the new moves in Gen V that were released. like acrobatics

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 8:37 PM
The new attacks were pretty cool. The physical special split was awesome. Personally, I like the new moves in Gen V that were released. like acrobatics

I didn't really like the moves in Gen V actually. I found most of them were really weak

Witchan
19th May 2011, 8:41 PM
This is arguably the best gen out of all gens.

Gen IV is also my least favorite since some of the characters in Platinum are... well... boring, I guess.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 8:43 PM
I agree Gen V is the best generation, but the games Black and White are pretty good, but not the best.

And Wichan that just means you dislike D/P/Pt, not generation IV itself

Grey Wind
19th May 2011, 8:46 PM
Gen IV introduced too many new evos. I think they should have Saved a few for Gen V and put a few in Gen III.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 8:47 PM
Even generations are supposed to introduce new evolutions/pre evolutions while odd generations are usually a reboot

Excitable Boy
19th May 2011, 8:51 PM
Even generations are supposed to introduce new evolutions/pre evolutions while odd generations are usually a reboot

Azurill and Wynaut greet you warmly.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 8:55 PM
Yeah but it's still mainly a reboot. I'm not saying odd generations don't introduce any evolutions or pre evolutions, but it's usually the even generations that focus on them

Grey Wind
19th May 2011, 8:56 PM
Even generations are supposed to introduce new evolutions/pre evolutions while odd generations are usually a reboot
Still half the Pokedex is new evos.
Although some were awesome.

Endoplasmic Reticulum
19th May 2011, 8:58 PM
Still half the Pokedex is new evos.
Although some were awesome.

It was like that in Johto too

Pichu47
19th May 2011, 9:18 PM
It was like that in Johto too


Every other Gen they had a ton of new evos. I hope they don't make a lucario evo. The terror :O

MegaMew2
19th May 2011, 9:30 PM
Every other Gen they had a ton of new evos. I hope they don't make a lucario evo. The terror :O

I agree. Lucario is absolutely fine the way it is. :3

Endless
19th May 2011, 9:31 PM
It was like that in Johto too

0/151 had a connection to older pokemon in Gen I
19/100 had a connection to older pokemon in Gen II
2/135 had a connection to older pokemon in Gen III
29/107 had a connection to older pokemon in Gen IV
0/156 had a connection to older pokemon in Gen V

To say that half the dex have connetions to old pokemon is really wrong. Because it was about 1/5 in Gen II and 1/4 in Gen IV.