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Dragoon952
24th September 2010, 8:53 PM
INTRODUCTION

Hello all. This tournament is a test run for a new metagame system under development called the Pokemon Value System. The system, using a mathematical equation, assigns a value to each pokemon using factors such as base stats, typing, and movepool, in order to create a variety of mixed environments. For more information the development of the system, feel free to visit this thread:

http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=427831

TEAM SELECTION

The basic idea of the tournament is that your team of six pokemon may not exceed a total value of 70 when all individual values are added together.

Below is the current list of pokemon values to use when selecting your team members. It containes all non-uber fully evolved pokemon and a few NFE that have been calculated. The first number shown is the value you should use when coming up with your 70 point team:


Abomasnow 11 106
Abra 6 61
Absol 11 108
Aerodactyl 19 192
Aggron 15 146
Alakazam 12 116
Altaria 14 141
Ambipom 11 108
Ampharos 7 75
Arbok 7 72
Arcanine 11 114
Ariados 5 53
Armaldo 8 76
Articuno 11 110
Azelf 14 145
Azumarill 8 80
Banette 8 78
Bastiodon 10 103
Beautifly 6 62
Beedrill 7 73
Bellossom 7 67
Bibarel 11 106
Blastoise 10 101
Blaziken 14 142
Blissey 23 228
Breloom 11 112
Bronzong 15 155
Butterfree 6 60
Cacturne 10 102
Camerupt 8 85
Carnivine 6 59
Castform 6 60
Celebi 19 191
Chansey 19 194
Charizard 12 122
Chatot 11 105
Cherrim 7 65
Chimecho 8 80
Claydol 12 120
Clefable 13 130
Cloyster 10 102
Corsola 7 73
Cradily 11 107
Crawdaunt 10 103
Cresselia 13 126
Crobat 17 175
Delcatty 7 69
Delibird 5 52
Dewgong 10 104
Dodrio 10 98
Donphan 8 77
Dragonite 17 167
Drapion 14 142
Drifblim 14 141
Dugtrio 9 90
Dunsparce 10 96
Dusknoir 8 79
Dustox 7 75
Electabuzz 9 90
Electivire 11 115
Electrode 9 88
Empoleon 19 189
Entei 13 127
Espeon 11 110
Exeggutor 10 101
Exploud 7 67
Farfetch'd 7 68
Fearow 11 110
Feraligatr 10 101
Flareon 9 85
Floatzel 12 117
Flygon 18 179
Forretress 14 136
Froslass 15 151
Furret 7 75
Gallade 14 143
Gardevoir 10 103
Gastrodon 11 108
Gengar 17 165
Girafarig 10 97
Glaceon 8 80
Glalie 8 83
Gligar 13 128
Gliscor 17 168
Golduck 11 110
Golem 10 97
Gorebyss 7 72
Granbull 7 73
Grumpig 10 100
Gyarados 13 127
Hariyama 9 91
Heatran 24 244
Heracross 10 101
Hippowdon 12 125
Hitmonchan 7 72
Hitmonlee 8 78
Hitmontop 7 74
Honchkrow 13 133
Houndoom 15 145
Huntail 7 70
Hypno 8 83
Illumise 10 98
Infernape 21 209
Ivysaur 6 61
Jirachi 26 265
Jolteon 12 120
Jumpluff 10 101
Jynx 13 132
Kabutops 15 148
Kangaskhan 10 97
Kecleon 7 67
Kingdra 15 152
Kingler 8 80
Kricketune 4 40
Lanturn 14 136
Lapras 13 129
Leafeon 9 92
Ledian 6 62
Lickilicky 9 91
Linoone 8 77
Lopunny 10 97
Lucario 18 183
Ludicolo 12 118
Lumineon 10 103
Lunatone 12 125
Luvdisc 6 64
Luxray 8 83
Machamp 9 87
Magcargo 6 59
Magmortar 10 104
Magneton 12 117
Magnezone 15 151
Mamoswine 15 150
Manectric 8 84
Mantine 10 104
Marowak 7 67
Masquerain 6 62
Mawile 9 92
Medicham 12 123
Meganium 8 77
Mesprit 12 120
Metagross 19 187
Mightyena 8 81
Milotic 12 116
Miltank 13 126
Minun 7 68
Mismagius 12 124
Moltres 11 111
Mothim 7 66
Mr. Mime 8 81
Muk 8 85
Nidoking 13 130
Nidoqueen 13 130
Ninetales 10 103
Ninjask 16 156
Noctowl 10 102
Octillery 8 78
Omastar 12 123
Pachirisu 7 74
Parasect 4 41
Pelipper 9 91
Persian 10 96
Phione 10 103
Pichu 3 33
Pidgeot 11 114
Pikachu 7 71
Pinsir 6 55
Plusle 7 68
Politoed 10 105
Poliwrath 14 138
Porygon2 8 81
Porygon-Z 10 104
Primeape 9 90
Probopass 12 121
Purugly 9 86
Quagsire 10 103
Qwilfish 13 126
Raichu 9 87
Raikou 12 121
Rampardos 10 103
Rapidash 11 106
Raticate 7 72
Regice 7 69
Regigigas 9 85
Regirock 10 98
Registeel 18 184
Relicanth 12 123
Rhyperior 13 126
Roserade 11 109
Rotom 11 109
Rotom (Fan) 12 124
Rotom (Frost) 13 125
Rotom (Heat) 12 122
Rotom (Mow) 12 122
Rotom (Wash) 12 124
Sableye 10 101
Sandslash 8 81
Sceptile 10 104
Scizor 16 160
Scyther 9 92
Seaking 8 82
Seviper 7 69
Sharpedo 16 156
Shaymin (Land) 11 111
Shedinja 6 58
Shiftry 13 132
Shuckle 2 21
Skarmory 18 183
Skuntank 12 122
Slaking 10 99
Slowbro 9 93
Smeargle 15 148
Snorlax 11 109
Solrock 12 121
Spinda 6 60
Spiritomb 10 95
Stantler 8 83
Staraptor 14 143
Starmie 15 150
Steelix 14 144
Sudowoodo 5 48
Suicune 13 125
Sunflora 4 44
Swalot 9 85
Swampert 14 139
Swellow 12 122
Tangrowth 9 88
Tauros 7 74
Tentacruel 14 141
Togekiss 16 162
Torkoal 5 58
Torterra 10 103
Toxicroak 12 122
Tropius 9 86
Typhlosion 11 105
Tyranitar 20 203
Umbreon 12 117
Unown 2 17
Ursaring 7 72
Uxie 14 137
Vaporeon 12 124
Venomoth 14 143
Venusaur 9 89
Vespiquen 5 53
Victreebel 8 82
Vileplume 8 75
Volbeat 8 76
Wailord 10 96
Walrein 11 114
Weavile 17 173
Weezing 7 68
Whiscash 11 114
Wigglytuff 11 109
Wormadam (P) 4 44
Wormadam (S) 6 55
Wormadam (T) 10 99
Wurmple 1 7
Xatu 14 139
Yanmega 15 148
Zangoose 9 88
Zapdos 17 169


CLAUSES

The following clauses will apply for all tournament battles:

-Evasion Clause
-Sleep Clause
-OHKO Clause
-Species Clause
-Self KO Clause

In addition to the above clauses, all pokemon teams must contain six pokemon.

FORMAT

All battles will be conducted over Wifi. The tournament will follow a World Cup format where the trainers will be divided up into groups of 4. During the first round, each group will play against each of the other group members once. Each victory will be awarded 3 points (with 1 point being awarded for a draw) and the the top two trainers with the best records in each group will advance to the first elimination round. Tie Breaker would be the trainer who lost the fewest number of pokemon total during the group battles.

After the first round is over, the elimination phase will begin. Remaining trainers will be pitted against one another in a bracket based on score, and from there on it will be single elimination.

A minimum of 16 trainers will be needed for the tournament (4 groups of 4), with a maximum number of participants set at 32 (8 groups of 4). If there are less than 32 but more than 16, the tournament will be capped at the first 16 trainers that sign up.

Sign up will last for 5 days after tournament activation, at which point groups will be made and a schedule will be created.

Good luck to all participants, and we hope you enjoy the start of a new metagame system!

Current list of participants

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Dragoon952
25th September 2010, 11:06 PM
A few more additional addenda, since it won't let me edit my first post:

-No hax items
-When signing up, give your Serebii username, in game name, and FC you will be using. Do not post your pokes here, you will be sending them to me by PM before the battle to verify the point total.
-Singles battle

And last, but not least, THE PRIZE! A Level 1 Beldum with the following nature and IVs:

Adamant
31 HP
31 Atk
15 Def
20 SpA
11 SpD
31 Spd

I hope that covers all I missed. I also want to give registration a longer period of time, so we'll say 7 days for now and go from there.

EDIT:

Can't edit the first post, so I'll have to edit this one.

Current list of participants

1.) Pokedex101 - Jimmy - 4942 0569 9333
2.) Prince Amrod - Freyja - 2837 2452 0114
3.) zodiacsage - Timothy - 3996 9424 4741
4.) TheFightingPikachu - Ben - 3911 1886 0113
5.) Indragon - Indra - 1806 5009 8001
6.) Kindrindra - Seth - ?
7.) BLinD FaLCoN - Adam - 4984 3306 9182
8.) speedygallade - Ted - 4812 9151 2582
9.) ShiningRobert - Robert - 0990 7320 5425
10.) Swiftrz & Milotic - Freak - 3696 2571 8136
11.) munchlaxboy - Matt - 5070 8077 1316
12.) Alex Pt - ALEX - 5241 9904 9655
13.) SolarPowerX - Dan - 1763 4902 8136
14.) ~Platinum~ - Daniele - 1935 1999 9897
15.) old man - Jania - 2707 7497 1842 OR Kevin - 1119 5366 9192
16.) Epwna is a Sceptile - Josh - 2322 1546 4788

QUALIFYING ROUND GROUPS

The stats are as follows: Wins-Losses, Points, Pokemon Left


Group Alakazam
Alex Pt: 3-0, 9 pts, 13 ADVANCES
Kindrindra: 2-1, 6 pts, 12 ADVANCES
Pokedex101: 1-2, 3 pts, 6
speedygallade: 0-3, 0 pts, 0 (Disqualified)

Group Blastoise
Blind Falcon: 3-0, 9 pts, 12 ADVANCES
Swiftrz: 2-1, 6 pts, 9 ADVANCES
Prince Amrod: 1-2, 3 pts, 6
munchlaxboy: 0-3, 0 pts, 0 (Disqualified)

Group Charizard
TheFightingPikachu: 3-0, 9 pts, 18 ADVANCES
old man: 2-1, 6 pts, 11 ADVANCES
Epwna: 1-2, 3 pts, 6
ShiningRobert: 0-3, 0 pts, 0 (Disqualified)

Group Ditto
Indragon: 2-1, 6 pts, 10 ADVANCES
SolarpowerX: 2-1, 6 pts, 7 ADVANCES
zodiacsage: 2-1, 6 pts, 6
~Platinum~: 0-3, 0 pts, 0


QUALIFYING MATCH 1
Alex Pt vs. Kindrindra, WINNER: Alex Pt, 2-0, 26-39851-52903
Pokedex101 vs. speedygallade, WINNER: Pokedex101, 6-0 (Disqualification)
Blind Falcon vs. munchlaxboy, WINNER: Blind Falcon, 6-0
Prince Amrod vs. Swiftrz, WINNER: Swiftrz, 3-0, 83-06528-29673
Epwna vs. old man, WINNER: old man, 5-0, 46-42997-02534
Shining Robert vs. TheFightingPikachu WINNER: TheFightingPikachu, 6-0 (Disqualification)
Indragon vs. ~Platinum~, WINNER: Indragon, 5-0, 24-20775-80324
Solarpower X vs. zodiacsage, WINNER: zodiacsage, 2-0, 57-53008-13654

QUALIFYING MATCH 2
Alex Pt vs. Pokedex 101, WINNER: Alex Pt, 5-0
Kindrindra vs. speedygallade, WINNER: Kindrindra, 6-0 (Disqualification)
Blind Falcon vs. Prince Amrod, WINNER: Blind Falcon, 2-0
munchlaxboy vs. Swiftrz, WINNER: Swiftrz, 6-0 (Disqualification)
Epwna vs. Shining Robert, WINNER: Epwna, 6-0 (Disqualification)
old man vs. TheFightingPikachu, WINNER: TheFightingPikachu, 6-0
Indragon vs. Solarpower X, WINNER: Solarpower X, 1-0, 76-46244-39639
~Platinum~ vs. zodiacsage, WINNER: zodiacsage, 4-0, 11-07776-47466

QUALIFYING MATCH 3
Alex Pt vs. speedygallade, WINNER: Alex Pt, 6-0 (Disqualification)
Kindrindra vs. Pokedex 101, WINNER: Kindrindra, 6-3 (Connection issues)
Blind Falcon vs. Swiftrz, WINNER: Blind Falcon, 4-0
munchlaxboy vs. Prince Amrod, WINNER: Prince Amrod, 6-0 (Disqualification)
Epwna vs. TheFightingPikachu, WINNER: TheFightingPikachu, 6-0 (Forfeit)
old man vs. Shining Robert, WINNER: old man, 6-0 (Disqualification)
Indragon vs. zodiacsage, WINNER: Indragon, 5-0, 46-42997-02234
~Platinum~ vs. Solarpower X, WINNER: Solarpower X, 6-0, 61-84306-07043

QUARTERFINAL MATCH
Blind Falcon vs. Solarpower X, WINNER: Blind Falcon, 3-0
Indragon vs. Swiftrz, WINNER: Indragon
Alex Pt vs. old man, WINNER: old man, 3-0
TheFightingPikachu vs. Kindrindra, WINNER: TheFightingPikachu, 6-0

SEMIFINAL MATCH
Indragon vs. old man, WINNER: Indragon, 3-0, 46-42997-01464
Blind Falcon vs. TheFightingPikachu, WINNER: Blind Falcon, 5-0

CHAMPIONSHIP MATCH
Indargon vs. Blind Falcon, WINNER: Blind Falcon, 4-0, 15-61213-01198

Dragoon952
25th September 2010, 11:07 PM
Sign me up!

My pokemon:
Torterra 10 103
Dragonite 17 167
Staraptor 14 143
Blaziken 14 142
Metagross 19 187
Charizard 12 122

1.) I forgot to mention to keep your choices a secret. People will PM their teams to me before battle.
2.) Your team total is 86, and the limit is 70. You'll have to hit the drawing board.

Other than, welcome aboard!

Prince Amrod
25th September 2010, 11:32 PM
ahh why not, this could be most interesting

Forum Name: Prince Amrod
IGN: Freyja
FC: 2837 2452 0114

zodiacsage
26th September 2010, 12:03 AM
Sounds unique, here is my info:

Forum Name: zodiacsage
IGN: Timothy
FC: 3996-9424-4741

TheFightingPikachu
26th September 2010, 12:10 AM
Oh, I'm so definitely signing up!

TheFightingPikachu
In-game: Ben
FC: 3911 1886 0113

And are we required to use the same Pokémon for the whole tournament? Just wanting to be sure.

Dragoon952
26th September 2010, 3:32 AM
Oh, I'm so definitely signing up!

TheFightingPikachu
In-game: Ben
FC: 3911 1886 0113

And are we required to use the same Pokémon for the whole tournament? Just wanting to be sure.

I'm going to say no. Since this is brand new, I think it would be best to allow people to adjust if they feel like it. It's going to be hard to come up with new strategies when it's an entirely new environment.

Pokedex101
26th September 2010, 4:31 PM
Here my fc:
Jimmy
4942 0569 9333

Indragon
26th September 2010, 7:13 PM
Ah, finally, the long awaited tournament. Exciting! 8D

I'll be joining up, of course.

Indragon.

In-game name: Indra
FC: 1806 5009 8001

Now, I really need to get to the drawing board. I'll PM you once I've decided a team =)

Kindrindra
26th September 2010, 10:25 PM
Signing up.
Time to see all that hard work pay off!

EDIT: Oh, oops.


SPPf username: Kindrindra
Ingame name: Seth
FC: 4168-1875-4153

BLinD FaLCoN
28th September 2010, 12:00 AM
ill join

Name: BLinD FaLCoN
IGN: Adam
FC: 4984 3306 9182

speedygallade
28th September 2010, 7:32 AM
Forum Name: speedygallade
IGN: Ted
FC: 4812-9151-2582

Dragoon952
28th September 2010, 3:53 PM
Half way there to get a good minimum number and it's only been a couple days! Spread the word, and let's see if we can at least get to 16!

ShiningRobert
28th September 2010, 5:07 PM
I'll join it
ForumName ShiningRobert
IGN: Robert
Fc: 0990-7320-5425

Swiftrz & Milotic
28th September 2010, 5:19 PM
Count me in ^.^

ForumName: Swiftrz & Milotic
IGN: Freak
FC: 3696 - 2571 - 8136

munchlaxboy
29th September 2010, 1:43 AM
I'm in.

Forum Name: munchlaxboy
IGN: Matt
FC: 5070 8077 1316

I'll be using the same six Pokemon for the whole tourney, and their total is 64, so I'm set.

Alex Pt
30th September 2010, 8:58 PM
I'd love to join.

Forum Name: Alex Pt
IGN: ALEX
FC: 5241 9904 9655

SolarPowerX
30th September 2010, 9:20 PM
If there is any space left, I'd like to try.

Forum name: SolarPowerX
In game name: Dan
FC:1763-4902-8136 (Heart gold)

Dragoon952
30th September 2010, 9:34 PM
If there is any space left, I'd like to try.

Forum name: SolarPowerX
In game name: Dan
FC:1763-4902-8136 (Heart gold)

You're fine ;) We're at 13 now.

GhostAnime
30th September 2010, 11:17 PM
I'll consider it, however I've mostly been stuck battling on Pokemon Online as access to wifi isn't really that isn't.

Dragoon952
3rd October 2010, 12:06 AM
I'll consider it, however I've mostly been stuck battling on Pokemon Online as access to wifi isn't really that isn't.

How's your wifi situation? When do you have access? I'll mark you down if you think you can make it work.

As for the tournament, I'm going to give it until Monday for signups, and then I'll set up the first matches on Tuesday. Unless there are a bunch of objections to that.

I'm going to update the first post with this information, but for each battle you'll have a two day window to set up your match and finish it.

Also, we have had a lot of requests to save and upload battle videos of each match, so I would ask each pair to do so. You can send the link to me, and I'll save them until the end of the tournament to post. A lot of people are really curious as to how thee matches will look.

BLinD FaLCoN
3rd October 2010, 4:51 AM
How's your wifi situation? When do you have access? I'll mark you down if you think you can make it work.

As for the tournament, I'm going to give it until Monday for signups, and then I'll set up the first matches on Tuesday. Unless there are a bunch of objections to that.

I'm going to update the first post with this information, but for each battle you'll have a two day window to set up your match and finish it.

Also, we have had a lot of requests to save and upload battle videos of each match, so I would ask each pair to do so. You can send the link to me, and I'll save them until the end of the tournament to post. A lot of people are really curious as to how thee matches will look.

doesnt recording the matches give away our team?
everyone else will see wut we are using

Prince Amrod
3rd October 2010, 5:26 AM
like dragoon said, the videos wont be posted until after the tournament has ended so our teams will be kept a surprise to the opponent until the battle itself

~Platinum~
3rd October 2010, 6:28 AM
Sounds like fun! Can I join?

Forum Name: ~Platinum~
In-Game Name: Daniele
FC: 1935-1999-9897

I'll PM you my team. :)

Indragon
3rd October 2010, 7:04 PM
Ah well, a little more time would've been nice, but I'll see what I can rig up.

Dragoon952
3rd October 2010, 8:15 PM
Sounds like fun! Can I join?

Forum Name: ~Platinum~
In-Game Name: Daniele
FC: 1935-1999-9897

I'll PM you my team. :)

But of course! Welcome aboard.


Ah well, a little more time would've been nice, but I'll see what I can rig up.

Time for what? Sign ups? We are actually only two people off from our initial goal, so we can see what happens tomorrow.

Indragon
4th October 2010, 9:14 PM
Time for what? Sign ups? We are actually only two people off from our initial goal, so we can see what happens tomorrow.

Oh, nothing really. It'll take me a day or two more to get all my Pokemon battle ready, by which time we'd hopefully have all 16 spots filled, and then it's business as usual.

old man
6th October 2010, 4:14 PM
Hey put me in. Sounds like fun

Name: Old Man
IGN: Jania and Kevin Dont know which game i'll use right now
FC: In sig. Dont know which one I'll use

Dragoon952
6th October 2010, 4:28 PM
Hey put me in. Sounds like fun

Name: Old Man
IGN: Jania and Kevin Dont know which game i'll use right now
FC: In sig. Dont know which one I'll use

Welcome aboard! Hope you enjoy it.

milkteeth
7th October 2010, 7:11 AM
is sign ups still going on?

Dragoon952
7th October 2010, 3:26 PM
is sign ups still going on?

Sure is. You are number 16 of 16 and we can get this bal lrolling if you're interested ;)

Epwna is a Sceptile
9th October 2010, 3:03 AM
I'll play since milkteeth hasn't answered yet.

Name: Epwna is a Sceptile
In game name: Josh
FC: 2322 1546 4788
I have 1 OU, 1 BL, two UU, and 2 NU on my team. Point total: 68.

Dragoon952
9th October 2010, 8:19 PM
Ok everyone, time to get the party started. I have the first match pairings up on the second post. Contact your opponent and arrange your match. Since it might be a few days for people to realize we started, try and get the first match in by Wednesday so we can keep it moving. If you haven't sent me your team yet, please PM it to me before you battle.

So, here what you do:
1.) Find your opponent.
2.) Have your match.
3.) Winner saves the battle video and uploads unless some other agreement is made.
4.) Send me the video ID for safe keeping (all to be released at the end of the tournament).
5.) Post your match result in this thread (winner, loser, final pokemon count)

For those of you that wanted to participate, fear not! If there are enough additional players that want a shot, we will do another group of 16 with the winner of each facing off for a grand championship. Just send me a PM if you'd like to be kept in the loop.

Swiftrz & Milotic
10th October 2010, 5:25 PM
Swiftrz & Milotic vs. Prince Amrod

Winner: Swiftrz & Milotic
Score: 3-0

GG Prince ^.^

Prince Amrod
10th October 2010, 5:25 PM
confirming the score, it was a great battle indeed :D

Alex Pt
10th October 2010, 6:02 PM
Alex Pt vs kindrindra

Winner: Alex Pt
Score: 2-0

Great, fun match there seth :)

Kindrindra
10th October 2010, 6:40 PM
Confirming the score.

That was a very fun match. ^_^

nooby121
11th October 2010, 8:41 PM
update on the gibble im breeding

moves will be
tackle
outrage
earthquake
substitute
sure 31 ata and spe IV's

i hope you guys enjoy this extra treat

open for requests on nature (going for jolly but if ever, adamant)
im also adding a choice of life orb, lucky egg or a masterball as its hold item

hope this should satisfy the winner and get some attention of the people that are planning to join the next tourney if ever

and yes, ima be donating another prize for the next tourney (if this thing kicks off)

old man
11th October 2010, 9:26 PM
Waiting on mine rite now. He's almost a half hour late

nooby121
11th October 2010, 9:30 PM
best of luck to ye mate

*EDIT
in the midst of breeding
apparently, breeding sibling's holding power bracer and anklet gets its effect nulled o.O

old man
11th October 2010, 9:58 PM
Old Man vs. Epwna
5-0 score Old Man wins.
great game buddy

nooby121
11th October 2010, 10:29 PM
false alarm!!

wuz breeding the wrong garchomp

congrats on our winners so far!

~Platinum~
11th October 2010, 11:23 PM
Indragon vs ~Platinum~
Winner: Indragon
Score: 5-0

It was a fun battle. Can't wait for the second round!

zodiacsage
11th October 2010, 11:58 PM
I just battled SolarPowerX, my win 2-0, a miss on his part during a critical part of the match may have cost him the game, nevertheless his team was really good and forced me to put on my A game the whole battle.

I am excited to participate in the next round for sure.

SolarPowerX
12th October 2010, 12:03 AM
Just confirming zodiacsage's victory. The miss was a bit annoying, but I still think he was likely to win anyway. Good game and good luck in the next round.

This system was fun to use, I look forward to watching the battle videos when the tournament is over.

nooby121
12th October 2010, 12:26 AM
ok so far these are the matchups and results to report in and be confirmed on both sides

Swiftrz & Milotic vs. Prince Amrod Winner: Swiftrz & MiloticScore: 3-0

Alex Pt vs kindrindra Winner: Alex PtScore: 2-0

zodiacsage vs SolarPowerX winner: zodiacsage 2-0

waiting for the other two to be confirmed

*EDIT* the gibble thing is giving me a headache as nothing good is turning up------- gonna have to call it a day since its 6AM in the friggin morning already here
gibble delivery will be delayed for approximately 1day (trying to get you guys that outstanding gibble so bear with me)

Epwna is a Sceptile
12th October 2010, 2:54 AM
Yeah, Old man creamed me. 5-0.

Dragoon952
12th October 2010, 3:52 AM
Ok, congrats to all of the winners so far! I hope you find the new system at least somewhat exciting.

A few things:

1.) I still have not received the official teams for Epwna, munchlax boy, and speedygallade. Please PM them to me ASAP. Not that I don't trust you, but always good to have a verifying eye.

2.) I have updated the second post with the results and standings so far.

3.) I have also posted the Qualifying Matches 2 and 3. If you and your opponent have both finished your first Match you can continue on. Earlier matches should take precedence, but if there are scheduling issues feel free to complete one of the other ones. The tournament will be quicker this way I hope.

Keep up the battling. My Walrein and I enjoy watching from my icy throne ;365;

Indragon
12th October 2010, 8:58 PM
Indragon vs ~Platinum~
Winner: Indragon
Score: 5-0

It was a fun battle. Can't wait for the second round!

Uh-huh. I'll be cheering you on for the other two battles :)

Swiftrz & Milotic
12th October 2010, 9:01 PM
Group Ditto is on a roll O.O

Come on Group Blastoise, get your round 1 fight done already! I'm chomping at the bit over here >.<

BLinD FaLCoN
12th October 2010, 9:04 PM
pmed munchlaxboy
will get qualifying round 1 done wen he respondes

@Prince Armod & Swiftrz : i can battle either of u also so pm me with a good time im in eastern standard time

Dragoon952
12th October 2010, 9:24 PM
Shining Robert has dropped out due to the fact that real life trumps virtual life. Priorities, people! ;)

I'm trying to see if GhostAnime or milkteeth will join up to take his place. If not, he will just be disqualified and we'll move on.

nooby121
13th October 2010, 6:03 AM
Shining Robert has dropped out due to the fact that real life trumps virtual life. Priorities, people! ;)

I'm trying to see if GhostAnime or milkteeth will join up to take his place. If not, he will just be disqualified and we'll move on.

ouch!

just got the prize gibble last night
31 IV's on attack and speed, 30 on hp, 26 on def, 16 on sp attack, and 17 on sp def
moveset of
tackle
outrage
earthquake
substitute
the gibble is UT but will be fed with 10 protein's and 10 carbos'
it is named "0PVS STRKR" to be a mark of the first tourney's winner
*Note* 0PVS STRKR means
0PVS means tourney number 0, seeing how this is the first unofficial tournament of PVS, i've put 0 to mark it
STRKR means striker (obviously)--------- this shows that your pokemon is meant to be sweeping the legions of pokemon you are faced with

ima try to get a SPRTR, and DFNDR once i get some suggestions on which pokemon to breed

Indragon
13th October 2010, 9:16 PM
Shining Robert has dropped out due to the fact that real life trumps virtual life.

Wait...which reality am I in now? O_O

Swiftrz & Milotic
13th October 2010, 10:04 PM
Swiftrz & Milotic vs. Blind Falcon

Winner by D/C: Blind Falcon
4-1

There's nothing saying "in the event of a D/C blah blah blah" so I'm guessing this is final. GG Falcon.

Dragoon952
13th October 2010, 10:06 PM
Swiftrz & Milotic vs. Blind Falcon

Winner by D/C: Blind Falcon
4-1

There's nothing saying "in the event of a D/C blah blah blah" so I'm guessing this is final. GG Falcon.

So was there an accidental disconnection there? And it was 4-1 in favor of Blind Falcon when it happened?

BLinD FaLCoN
13th October 2010, 10:10 PM
yea there was a chance his pooke cud make a comeback
but, im my opinion, i dont think it was likely

Swiftrz & Milotic
13th October 2010, 10:12 PM
So was there an accidental disconnection there? And it was 4-1 in favor of Blind Falcon when it happened?

Yes, and my last Poke was tragically paralyzed so while I'll go to the grave swearing we could make a comeback, odds are against me in that respect :P

Dragoon952
13th October 2010, 10:15 PM
Yes, and my last Poke was tragically paralyzed so while I'll go to the grave swearing we could make a comeback, odds are against me in that respect :P

We'll just count is as a win for Blind Falcon with 4 pokes left then. The number of pokemon left is just a tie breaker, so we'll revisit the issue if it turns out to break a tie of some sort.

Swiftrz & Milotic
13th October 2010, 10:31 PM
We'll just count is as a win for Blind Falcon with 4 pokes left then. The number of pokemon left is just a tie breaker, so we'll revisit the issue if it turns out to break a tie of some sort.

Of course, that's the most logical resolution.

Ugh, it's just a bummer, the match was going on an hour in length and for it to end like that was so....anti-climactic. Lol, oh well. Still fun ^.^

Alex Pt
13th October 2010, 10:59 PM
Alex Pt vs Pokedex101
Winner: Alex Pt
Score: 5-0
Good game there Jimmy, made more fun by the variety of pokemon you used.

~Platinum~
14th October 2010, 2:11 AM
zodiacsage vs ~Platinum~
Winner: zodiacsage
Score: 4-0

It was a good battle. :)

Group Ditto is on a roll.

zodiacsage
14th October 2010, 2:12 AM
I just fought my match against ~Platinum~, my win 4-0. A fun match overall it just came down to the fact that I had a few good Pokes that served as excellent counters to the ones she threw at me.

old man
14th October 2010, 3:25 AM
ummm isn't Suicune13 125 THis is the number you use not the 13

Dragoon952
14th October 2010, 3:41 AM
ummm isn't Suicune13 125 THis is the number you use not the 13

No, it's 13. I'm sorry if that was confusing. We're going by the first numbers in the list. The second numbers are there to see what it would be if the values were based on 100's and not 10's. So, he is 125 in 100's, but if you divide it by 10 it rounds up to 13. Some people wanted to see both to get a feel for the numbers more "accurately."

Did that cause a problem?

old man
14th October 2010, 12:14 PM
Yea it did. I wasnt expecting to see such OU monsters as Cuine and Machamp. It's ok. I foddered my team in the battle with fighting pikachu to give my computer time to open the web page to Check. Seeing as sucuine is 13 give a 6-0 win to him please. But that does change some things. I was looking at what is the second numbers seeing as not every poke has a 1st number. I'll be sending you a new team for myself soon.

Dragoon952
14th October 2010, 2:43 PM
Yea it did. I wasnt expecting to see such OU monsters as Cuine and Machamp. It's ok. I foddered my team in the battle with fighting pikachu to give my computer time to open the web page to Check. Seeing as sucuine is 13 give a 6-0 win to him please. But that does change some things. I was looking at what is the second numbers seeing as not every poke has a 1st number. I'll be sending you a new team for myself soon.

Every pokemon does have a first number, it just looks like my laziness in making the table better aligned caused confusion.

Don't want to ruin the experience for both of you by giving you a loss due to confusion, but I'll leave the resolution up to you. You can redo the battle but keep the same teams. I would suggest a proxy battle with other members to take the place of this one, but that might throw things off if both of you win (whereas in actuality that wouldn't be possible).

Would you two agree on using the same teams and giving it another go? Both of you have teams at 70 or under.

old man
14th October 2010, 3:11 PM
Don't want to ruin the experience for both of you by giving you a loss due to confusion, but I'll leave the resolution up to you.

No it's fine. You can give him the win. I just got confused on the numbering so that's my fault and not his. The Tourny is fun and I dont want to slow things down. So give him the win.

TheFightingPikachu
14th October 2010, 9:10 PM
No it's fine. You can give him the win. I just got confused on the numbering so that's my fault and not his. The Tourny is fun and I dont want to slow things down. So give him the win.

Confirming. If you are satisfied to count it as a 6-0 victory for me, I will accept.

It was a very good match. Without a bit of luck that went in my favor, I most likely would not have gotten a 6-0 victory. Your team was well-chosen, you made good switches, and you chose your moves well. I enjoyed it very much.

zodiacsage
15th October 2010, 2:19 AM
I just had my final match within my group with Indragon, his win 5-0. He had a Pokemon that my team just hates and managed to get the upper hand early on, he did score a few nice critical hits but honestly I do not think it would have affected the outcome at all so I definitely consider it to have been a good game.

Now that I am done I will just sit back and see how the remaining matches go and hopefully I have a place in the final bracket.

Indragon
15th October 2010, 2:33 AM
Haha, I know zodiacsage was my third opponent, but we were online at the same time, and that can only lead to a battle :P

Anyway, great game, zodiac! It was almost toe-to-toe after a good start from my side, but I managed to take him down after breaking through a certain problematic Pokemon. Sorry about the couple o' crits, but I'm thankful they weren't too devastating.

PVS battles sure are fun!

zodiacsage
15th October 2010, 2:41 AM
Haha, I know zodiacsage was my third opponent, but we were online at the same time, and that can only lead to a battle :P

Anyway, great game, zodiac! It was almost toe-to-toe after a good start from my side, but I managed to take him down after breaking through a certain problematic Pokemon. Sorry about the couple o' crits, but I'm thankful they weren't too devastating.

PVS battles sure are fun!

I have to agree, the PVS system is fun to use, one of my favorite aspects of it so far is that I have seen many Pokemon I almost never encounter and even though many of them are not in OU they have been able to hold their own against my team of all OU Pokemon.

Good luck to all the other participants, hope to see you in the next round if I make it.

old man
15th October 2010, 11:40 AM
See as shining Robert has dropped out I'm done with my battles. I'm 2-1.

Dragoon952
15th October 2010, 2:50 PM
I'll update the standings later today when I get a chance.

Had communications with speedygallade and he's still in, so hopefulyl he'll get with some of you guys soon.

Don't forget to send me battle video numbers if you have them.

BLinD FaLCoN
16th October 2010, 10:14 PM
i won my match against munchlaxboy 6-0

gg sorry for the one crit

munchlaxboy
16th October 2010, 10:24 PM
i won my match against munchlaxboy 6-0

gg sorry for the one crit

It could've have been a close one too...

Confirmed.

BLinD FaLCoN
16th October 2010, 10:33 PM
It could've have been a close one too...

Confirmed.


dam forgot to tell u i can record matches

if u saved it by any chance(unlikely) then can u upload it to dragoon?

munchlaxboy
16th October 2010, 10:46 PM
dam forgot to tell u i can record matches

if u saved it by any chance(unlikely) then can u upload it to dragoon?

No, sorry, I didn't save it.

I wouldn't even know how to upload it...

~Platinum~
17th October 2010, 4:47 AM
I wouldn't even know how to upload it...

When you finish your match it gives you the option of recording your battle as a battle video on your Battle Recorder. If you choose "yes" your battle will be saved. Then go to the GTS and on the third floor you can upload and watch videos. Upload the video and it'll give you a video ID. PM the ID number to Dragoon and at the end of the tournament he'll post the video IDs that he's recieved so we can watch each others battles. :)

Indragon
18th October 2010, 9:02 PM
Well, just posting to say that hope we can get all out matches done quickly. I'll be on vacation for about 3 weeks starting the 1st of November, with no Wi-Fi, and I'd hate to leave this mid-way, or leave without knowing the results. ^_^;

Dragoon952
18th October 2010, 9:41 PM
Updated the standings. Not too many to go, and after qualifications I'm sure it will go fast.

SolarPowerX
18th October 2010, 11:04 PM
Just posting to say that Indragon and I had our battle, and I managed to barely win. It was a very close 1-0 match, with a climatic and somewhat humerus ending :P

There was a bit of hax on both sides, and toward the ending I made some pretty bad moves, but it was still a great battle.

Indragon
18th October 2010, 11:07 PM
Just finished my final match against SolarPowerX. He won it, 1-0. Looks like my new team isn't quite up to scratch.

All in all, it was a fun game, and I really enjoyed the battle. I did play quite carelessly, but it was a close ending (with two Pokemon whose confrontation can only be termed epic. ;)), so I have no regrets.

I lost too many Pokemon early, and there was a sizeable amount of hax on both sides, which really changed the battle; but good game, Solar. A very good team you got there. :)

Looks like I'm through to the next round anyway, so yay. ^_^

~Platinum~
18th October 2010, 11:40 PM
Wow, SolarpowerX was able to pull off two wins ina row against me and Indragon? Impressive.

SolarpowerX vs ~Platinum~
Winner: SolarpowerX
Score: 6-0

I got destroyed.

Wait, I lost all three of my matches? Darn. Well, I guess since all three of my matches are done, now all that's left to do is wait for everyone else to finish.

Anyways, it was a good battle against some interesting Pokemon. Congratulations to everyone who has won so far. :)

SolarPowerX
18th October 2010, 11:42 PM
Just confirming the battle against platinum. She had some pretty cool pokemon. Round one of this tournament was fun, I hope it catches on =)

Indragon
18th October 2010, 11:49 PM
Oh wow, Solar's on a rampage. Hope you have a Lum Berry :P Congrats to you too, Platinum. =]

So this is interesting; I assume me and Solar move on from Group Ditto as our remaining-Pokemon-tally is 10 and 7 respectively? Quite a narrow miss for zodiac; his tally was at 6.

Group Ditto wins, yesh?

Dragoon952
19th October 2010, 3:40 AM
Oh wow, Solar's on a rampage. Hope you have a Lum Berry :P Congrats to you too, Platinum. =]

So this is interesting; I assume me and Solar move on from Group Ditto as our remaining-Pokemon-tally is 10 and 7 respectively? Quite a narrow miss for zodiac; his tally was at 6.

Group Ditto wins, yesh?

Totals are just tie breakers. Each win gets 3 points, but I figured there might be quite a few 2-1 folk.

I'll probably use them to determine next round matchups, too, but the better record wins.

Swiftrz & Milotic
19th October 2010, 5:37 AM
munchlaxboy and I are having trouble being online at the same time, we'll have our battle done by the end of the upcoming weekend. Sorry for being part of the delays >.<

Dragoon952
19th October 2010, 7:04 PM
Group Ditto is finished up, and the two people advancing to the quaterfinals are Indragon (2-1, 6 pts, 10) and Solarpower X (2-1, 6 pts, 7). There was a three way tie for first, and zodiacsage barely missed it (2-1, 6 pts, 6).

So, congrats to our first two quarterfinalists! Also, thank you very much zodiacsage and Platinum for participating. I look forward to hearing your commentary and thoughts on the system.

Kindrindra
19th October 2010, 8:55 PM
Me and Pokedex should have our battle done today. Hopefully.

nooby121
20th October 2010, 12:26 AM
looks like things are going smoothly here

zodiacsage
20th October 2010, 4:21 AM
Group Ditto is finished up, and the two people advancing to the quaterfinals are Indragon (2-1, 6 pts, 10) and Solarpower X (2-1, 6 pts, 7). There was a three way tie for first, and zodiacsage barely missed it (2-1, 6 pts, 6).

So, congrats to our first two quarterfinalists! Also, thank you very much zodiacsage and Platinum for participating. I look forward to hearing your commentary and thoughts on the system.

Congrats to SolarPowerX and Indragon, I may have only lost by a narrow margin but both of you deserve to be in the Finals nonetheless. I enjoyed all three of my battles in Group Ditto and am glad I was involved in this tourney. Tear em' up in the Finals guys, it would be great to see one of you take the top spot in the tourney!

SolarPowerX
20th October 2010, 5:10 AM
Congrats to SolarPowerX and Indragon, I may have only lost by a narrow margin but both of you deserve to be in the Finals nonetheless. I enjoyed all three of my battles in Group Ditto and am glad I was involved in this tourney. Tear em' up in the Finals guys, it would be great to see one of you take the top spot in the tourney!
Thanks Zodiacsage, you were great in our battle and you're a pretty nice guy as well.

Congrats to Indragon for moving up with such a strong lead of 10 points, you pretty much had control over this round from the start XD

I've probably said this a billion times before, but let's hope the rest of this tournament is as fun as round one.

Indragon
20th October 2010, 9:31 PM
Congrats to SolarPowerX and Indragon, I may have only lost by a narrow margin but both of you deserve to be in the Finals nonetheless. I enjoyed all three of my battles in Group Ditto and am glad I was involved in this tourney. Tear em' up in the Finals guys, it would be great to see one of you take the top spot in the tourney!

Well, we can always hope. ;493;

And again, thanks for a very fun battle!


I've probably said this a billion times before, but let's hope the rest of this tournament is as fun as round one.

Make that a billion and one. Can't wait to see the other battles as well.

BLinD FaLCoN
21st October 2010, 10:34 PM
well i finished my last match agaisnt Prince Armod
i won 2-0

gg it was fun

Prince Amrod
21st October 2010, 10:36 PM
confirming the result, congratulations on getting through to the next round :D i hope i can join you there

BLinD FaLCoN
21st October 2010, 10:38 PM
Swiftrz, munchlaxboy, Prince Amrod

good luck to the 3 of u
ill wait and see who else will rep group blastoise with me

Swiftrz & Milotic
22nd October 2010, 12:32 AM
My last match is set for this Sunday (well, Sunday for me, Saturday for munchlaxboy). I'm eager to see if I'm movin' on up :P

Prince Amrod
24th October 2010, 7:52 PM
i would like to report that munchlaxboy has forfeited his final two matchups against myself and swiftrz & milotic. this is due to a very busy schedule in his real life which has led him to be unable to complete the battles. i quote below the visitor message he has left on both our profiles:


My schedule is so stacked right now (in life, that is), and I'm sorry for making you wait. I'll just take a forfeit. If the PVS tournament leader needs confirmation, just tell them to look here.

Dragoon952
24th October 2010, 9:12 PM
i would like to report that munchlaxboy has forfeited his final two matchups against myself and swiftrz & milotic. this is due to a very busy schedule in his real life which has led him to be unable to complete the battles. i quote below the visitor message he has left on both our profiles:

Well, with that news Group Blastoise is finished up. Congrats to Blind Falcon and Swiftrz for moving on. Thanks for participating Prince Amrod, and I hope you had fun with the first leg of this tournament!

Prince Amrod
25th October 2010, 1:01 AM
yeah i had a great amount of fun, i look forward to seeing some of these battles afterwards and to the future of this system as a whole :D

Swiftrz & Milotic
25th October 2010, 3:20 AM
Not the most ideal way to earn the right to advance but I'm glad I'm still in it. GL to everyone finishing up their qualifying matches :)

Dragoon952
25th October 2010, 3:47 AM
Has anyone been in contact with speedygallade? We're so close to moving on and I want to wrap up this qualifying round.

Indragon
26th October 2010, 8:23 AM
Indeed =/ speedygallade does seem to be active though.

Dragoon952
26th October 2010, 2:43 PM
Ok, if you are having trouble getting hold of an opponent and have been trying for a while let me know. I'm going to start forfeiting some battles since it's been a while. So, for all of those still waiting, let me know the status of your battle.

speedygallade
27th October 2010, 11:31 AM
I am so sorry guys! My opponent please PM me. I'll fight you as soon as I can. I am honestly sorry about this.

speedygallade
27th October 2010, 11:34 AM
I am so sorry guys! My opponent please PM me. I'll fight you as soon as I can. I am honestly sorry about this.

Dragoon952
29th October 2010, 3:19 PM
Ok, speedygallade has real life syndrome and needs to bow out. Real life sucks. In any event, that means that Alex Pt is advancing.

There are only 2 more battles left that will decide the finals spots:

Kindrindra vs. Pokedex 101
Epwna vs. TheFightingPikachu

Please let me know what's going on with these ASAP!

Dragoon952
29th October 2010, 9:51 PM
Well, Epwna had to forfeit, so that's one down. Congrats to THeFightingPikachu and old man for advancing. Sorry TFP that you had a string of bad luck in the forfeit department.

With that said, might as well move the quarterfinals along. I posted the quarterfinals battles. TFP will fight the winner of the Kindrindra and Pokedex101 battle, but the others are set.

Indragon
30th October 2010, 6:04 PM
Just finished my battle against Swiftrz, with the win eventually coming my way! 'Twas a really fun match and she had me on the edge throughout the battle. =D I'm also glad that it was relatively hax free. Good game, Swiftrz, you were a great opponent. And also, this was what I envisioned a PVS team to look like. ;)

Swiftrz & Milotic
30th October 2010, 6:12 PM
Fair enough, I don't mean to sound bitter. I just went in another direction and obviously it didn't work out too well for me. I really do wish you luck, you threw some unexpected surprises at me :)

old man
30th October 2010, 7:59 PM
WOW I'm sorry I didn't know I moved in in the tourney!!!!!! I'll pm Alex right now. I'm am soooo sorry I didn't know

EDIT:::
WOW that was long. After a great Stall on Alex's part I finally won 3-0. That blasted thing just wouldn't DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Great Match

Alex Pt
30th October 2010, 9:07 PM
Confirming, Great game, lots of fun and good luck in the rest of the tourney :)

Dragoon952
31st October 2010, 4:53 AM
Indragon and old man, I set you guys up against each other for the semifinals. Why don't you see if you can have your match soon. Indragon is going on vacation for several weeks starting on the first, so hopefully you guys can get together before then.

old man
31st October 2010, 7:04 PM
Lagg is KILLING ME!!!! Trying to get the battle done now.
Edit: WE are having the WORST TIME connecting. Wifi just isnt working rite today

BLinD FaLCoN
31st October 2010, 8:10 PM
i won my quarterfinal match against solarpower
3-0

there was a crit for me, then a crit for him that almost got him a sweep of my team
and one of his pokes got a miss

so gg solarpower
thats a great team u made
the battle was fun

SolarPowerX
31st October 2010, 8:13 PM
Blind Falcon won against me, 3-0. Good game and good luck in the next round. And yup, it was fun.

Indragon
31st October 2010, 8:16 PM
What the hell is up with Wi-Fi?! :U

old man
31st October 2010, 9:42 PM
DOnt know it's killing us. Are you across the pond?
I lost 3-0. Have fun with the rest of the tourny

Indragon
31st October 2010, 10:18 PM
Confirming. Good game, old man. Now I wonder how I'll get the finals done. XD

BLinD FaLCoN
31st October 2010, 10:35 PM
Confirming. Good game, old man. Now I wonder how I'll get the finals done. XD

looks like its gonna be awile before finals

three more matches have to get done before the other finalist is determined

BLinD FaLCoN
4th November 2010, 11:12 PM
maybe eliminate a person
so TFP can do his quarter final match
and to get this thing rolling again?

Dragoon952
5th November 2010, 3:31 PM
maybe eliminate a person
so TFP can do his quarter final match
and to get this thing rolling again?

I was just thinking that. Trouble is that I think they are both trying but can't get their schedules to mesh, so I don't feel right eliminating one or the other. I'm going to follow up with them and see if we can get the ball rolling.

Kindrindra
7th November 2010, 1:25 AM
Me and pokedex were having our battle... and unfortunately the connection died.

The battle was 6-3 for me when it happened. Do we start the battle over?

Dragoon952
7th November 2010, 2:32 AM
Me and pokedex were having our battle... and unfortunately the connection died.

The battle was 6-3 for me when it happened. Do we start the battle over?

That is up to you guys. If pokedex would like to try again maybe you should, but if he thinks he couldn't have won and wants to give you the win that's ok too.

Dragoon952
8th November 2010, 3:39 PM
You know what, on second thought, you guys have had so much trouble connecting that I might as well call it to get this other leg moving along. So, Kindrindra, go ahead and set up your battle with TFP for your Quarterfinal Match.

Pokedex101, sorry that I had to call it, but we're going to keep this train rolling. Looks like he was enough in the lead at the time. So, I apologize for speeding this up, and I hope you had fun. We'll do these again in the future.

nooby121
13th November 2010, 9:37 AM
lost my net connection at home which is why i havent been online that much--- indragoon if ur online, take the gibble off my hands--i dont know when i can go back online xD

Dragoon952
16th November 2010, 2:58 PM
As an update, TFP and Kindrindra are trying to have their battle but are having connectivity problems. AS soon as they get it to work and we have a winner they can set up their battle with Blind Falcon.

BLinD FaLCoN
18th November 2010, 4:08 AM
alright sounds good
ill check in every couple of days or so

BLinD FaLCoN
28th November 2010, 4:27 PM
can we get this thing finished?
flip a coin or something?

TheFightingPikachu
2nd December 2010, 4:50 PM
Well, just tody, Kindrindra told me he has to drop out of the tournament (see VM conversation (http://serebiiforums.com/converse.php?u=118572&u2=126857)).

So BLinD FaLCoN, I'm your next opponent! Let's do it! (I'll be contacting you shortly.)

Indragon
3rd December 2010, 2:49 PM
Ah, finally. 'Tis a pity that Kindrindra had to drop out but this thing's been taking forever and it's good to know it's back in action. I'mma waiting suavely in my armchair, yer.

BLinD FaLCoN
4th December 2010, 8:35 PM
looks like its me and indragon in the finals
as i won my match against TFP

contact when you see this Indragon

TheFightingPikachu
4th December 2010, 8:36 PM
I'm here to say that BLinD FaLCon just beat me 5-0. It was a well-played match where I tried to guess his moves, but ultimately didn't do a good enough job. He broke down my walls, then just kept scoring.

Good game, man!

Now it's time for the finals. I can't wait to see how this turns out!

Dragoon952
12th December 2010, 4:15 PM
Any luck with the finals, guys? Can't wait to hear the result, and make sure I get the battle video on this one. Post the results when you're done, and then contact me to get your prize Beldum!

BLinD FaLCoN
12th December 2010, 5:51 PM
indragon wednesday is good for me
pm me
and when we battle you will have to record, cause i cant cause i play on diamond

BLinD FaLCoN
15th December 2010, 9:45 PM
i won my match against indragon
he recorded i think so if u want vid dragoon you will have to ask him

Indragon
15th December 2010, 9:55 PM
Yeah, I got wiped out 4-0. Good, clean game but my team just wasn't good enough in the end. I'd made a couple of changes for the finals but looking back, I believe I'd have stood a better chance with my old team. There's my lesson about not messing with winning formulas xP

Oh yeah, the battle video number's 15-61213-01198.

Dragoon952
18th December 2010, 6:50 PM
Congrats BF! I apologize it took so long to get to this point, but I hope it was a satisfying experience!

So, what did all of you think of the system? Was it enjoyable? Did you get a good variety of opponents? Unexpected pokemon show up?

I'll post all of the battle video numbers I have when I get a chance before the thread will be closed so you can go back and look at the other matches.

Indragon
19th December 2010, 4:41 PM
While this certainly mixed things up a bit, I'll be honest and say that it wasn't quite to the extent I was expecting. This is largely due to some exploitable, if you will, low values that some Pokemon have, mainly I believe because of underrating of single-typed Pokemon. But more of that in the discussion thread.

Great fun being part of the tournament nevertheless, and I'll be looking forward to the battle videos. =)

Dragoon952
19th December 2010, 6:45 PM
While this certainly mixed things up a bit, I'll be honest and say that it wasn't quite to the extent I was expecting. This is largely due to some exploitable, if you will, low values that some Pokemon have, mainly I believe because of underrating of single-typed Pokemon. But more of that in the discussion thread.

Great fun being part of the tournament nevertheless, and I'll be looking forward to the battle videos. =)

Monotypes was always a concern of mine.

But anyway, let's hope some good testing happens with the PO server. I'd like to know if it's because the equation isn't working effectively as it currently stands, or if the values will work once people get used to an expect certain threats. If everyone brings a Machamp, it could become expected and counterable.

Time will tell ;)

Indragon
19th December 2010, 7:27 PM
Monotypes was always a concern of mine.

But anyway, let's hope some good testing happens with the PO server. I'd like to know if it's because the equation isn't working effectively as it currently stands, or if the values will work once people get used to an expect certain threats. If everyone brings a Machamp, it could become expected and counterable.

Time will tell ;)

I think the equations need to be slightly tweaked, wherein monotypes are given a boost (they suffer quite a bit due to the lack of a secondary STAB, I believe?). I'll just check the spreadsheet and see if I can come up with something. The thing is, even if Machamp people come prepared for Machamp, it kinda goes against the aim of the PVS. Since we want to reduce centralization and open up opportunities for as many Pokemon as possible, Machamp would somewhat represent the OU metagame all over again. You know that you'll be seeing Heatran, Starmie, etc. and you come prepared but that doesn't change the fact that you have a metagame revolving around certain Pokemon.

Dragoon952
20th December 2010, 4:19 AM
I think the equations need to be slightly tweaked, wherein monotypes are given a boost (they suffer quite a bit due to the lack of a secondary STAB, I believe?). I'll just check the spreadsheet and see if I can come up with something. The thing is, even if Machamp people come prepared for Machamp, it kinda goes against the aim of the PVS. Since we want to reduce centralization and open up opportunities for as many Pokemon as possible, Machamp would somewhat represent the OU metagame all over again. You know that you'll be seeing Heatran, Starmie, etc. and you come prepared but that doesn't change the fact that you have a metagame revolving around certain Pokemon.

I hear what you're saying. The thing I fear the most is "back to the drawing board." So long as that's not the case I think I'll survive ;)

old man
20th December 2010, 7:01 PM
Over all I liked the system. I do wish that the calculation were changed ti get rid of some of the normal OU monster as you have been talking about.

Dragoon952
20th December 2010, 7:10 PM
Over all I liked the system. I do wish that the calculation were changed ti get rid of some of the normal OU monster as you have been talking about.

Let me know which ones raised your eyebrows and I'll take a look to see if there is a common reason why. That's the kind of help I need most :) You can feel free to add your thoughts in the main thread or PM me, because I need to know where to tweak to make it work better!

BLinD FaLCoN
20th December 2010, 9:19 PM
well ur all gonna see my team when the battles get shown but this was it

1) azelf - 14
2) suicune - 13
3) machamp - 9
4) zapdos - 17
5) dusknoir - 8
6) porygon2 - 8
total - 69

now i havent been battling too much recentley, so unless smogon made some changes in the last few months, that team has 5 Ous and 1 very good UU that can be used in Ou enviroment in porygon2. Also the team has some of the dominate Ous like azelf, zap, champ, cune.
So i really think something has to be changed, especially with cune and champ being only 13 and 9 respectively.

Dragoon952
20th December 2010, 9:24 PM
well ur all gonna see my team when the battles get shown but this was it

1) azelf - 14
2) suicune - 13
3) machamp - 9
4) zapdos - 17
5) dusknoir - 8
6) porygon2 - 8
total - 69

now i havent been battling too much, so unless smogon made some changes i nthe last few months that team has 5 Ous and 1 very good UU that can be used in Ou enviroment in porygon2. Also the team has some of the dominate Ous like azelf, zap, champ, cune.
So i really think something has to be changed, especially with cune and champ being only 13 and 9 respectively.

I think Indragon has a good point that the problems seems to be that monotypes aren't coming out right. Either dual types are being rated too high or monotypes are too low. Gotta see if there is a reason why.

That's why this kind of insight and testing is so important.

BLinD FaLCoN
20th December 2010, 9:37 PM
yea the rating of monotypes definatly need to be brought up a few points

are there gonna be any other PVS tournies in the future?

Dragoon952
20th December 2010, 9:59 PM
yea the rating of monotypes definatly need to be brought up a few points

are there gonna be any other PVS tournies in the future?

Most definitely. This is just the beginning.

In case you didn't hear, this system just went online on the Gamma Server on Pokemon Online. You can now use this system on the simulator. At the moment we had to make static tiers (50, 60, 70, 80 for now) but hopefully in the future you could choose whatever you want. So, you can try it there i nthe mean time. Or contact people in the PVS Testers group to set up a match.

I want to see if I can fix the monotype issue before the next tournament, but oh yes, there will be more.

Dragoon952
21st December 2010, 5:13 AM
Ok, I posted as many battle video numbers as I could on the first page for all who are interested. I wasn't given numbers for each one, and I may have missed a few, but hopefully it's enough for those who want to see a few of the matches.

Thank you all for a good first tournament. There will be more in the future!

Indragon
21st December 2010, 8:09 AM
Did I forget to send you the number for my battle against Swiftrz? In any case, it's 88-74443-13136.

EDIT: I looked through the listed videos, and there are certainly some interesting teams in there. Kindrindra's Trick Room team looks fun! ^_^ And zodiacsage's links seem to be broken.

Ragnarok
11th January 2011, 1:00 AM
Ok, I assume this is done, if not PM me for it to get unlocked.

In future, report the first post saying it's done, locking. ^_^