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GalladeRocks
30th October 2010, 6:26 PM
I've been working on planning a Black team for a while, and with some help from posters in an older thread of mine, I've composed a team that I'm satisfied with. I'm not using Dream World abilities and moves, or egg moves, so please don't suggest them.


http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/503.png
Daikenki
-Torrent-
-Surf
-Megahorn
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/500.png
Enbuoh
-Blaze-
-Flare Blitz
-Hammer Arm
-Head Smash
-Boiling Water

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/497.png
Jalorda
-Overgrow-
-Leaf Blade
-Coil
-Leech Seed
-Dragon Tail

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.png
Waruvial
-Intimidate-
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Claw Sharpen

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/604.png
Shibirudon
-Levitate-
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw
-Thunder Wave

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/612.png
Ononokus
-Mold Breaker-
-Dragon Claw
-Dragon Dance
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake

Comments would be appreciated.

AzukanAsimbu
30th October 2010, 6:49 PM
Keep Waruvial's Dragon Claw

Aurath8
30th October 2010, 6:57 PM
I've been working on planning a Black team for a while, and with some help from posters in an older thread of mine, I've composed a team that I'm satisfied with. I'm not using Dream World abilities and moves, or egg moves, so please don't suggest them.


http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/503.png
Daikenki
-Torrent-
-Surf
-Megahorn
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

Megahorn is stronger than X-scissor. The accuracy drop is worth the power boost.

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/500.png
Enbuoh
-Blaze-
-Nitro Charge/Flare Blitz/Heat Stamp
-Hammer Arm/Superpower/Brick Break
-Stone Edge
-Boiling Water

I prefer Stone Edge as Head Smash means you pratically KO yourself every time.
Nitro Charge + Hammer Arm is a no-no. The moves in red go good with eachother.

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/497.png
Jalorda
-Overgrow-
-Leaf Blade
-Coil
-Leech Seed
-Dragon Tail

This Jaroda focuses more on walling and semi-support with leech seed.

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.png
Waruvial
-Intimidate-
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Claw Sharpen

You already have the amazing QuakeEdge coverage so Dragon Claw is scrapped in favour of claw Sharpen, boosting Stone Edges accuracy and your high attack.

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/604.png
Shibirudon
-Levitate-
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw
-Thunder Wave

Thunderbolt always, your not using a rain team so no Thunder. Dragon Claw hiits a load of pokemon for neutral damage and Flash Cannon/U-turn aren't too good for Shibi. Thunder Wave could remedy that poor speed and support other pokes like Emboar and Daikenki.

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/612.png
Ononokus
-Mold Breaker-
-Dragon Claw
-Dragon Dance
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake

Outrage is usable over D-Claw but with your attack D-Claw appears to be better for continued sweeping.

Comments would be appreciated.

you have a large Ice weakness but most members can take out those few Ice types easily. A good team.

GalladeRocks
31st October 2010, 5:23 AM
you have a large Ice weakness but most members can take out those few Ice types easily. A good team.

Thanks for your suggestions, I've put some of them into my original post. I'm probably going to keep X-Scissor over Megahorn on Daikenki, as I almost always choose accuracy over power. But sometimes I decide things spur of the moment in game, so I guess I'll know then. As for Jalorda, the reason I chose Aerial Ace is because I lack a Flying type move otherwise, and if I don't have it then I have no way of striking Fighting types super-effectively. I'm definitely going with Claw Sharpen on Waruvial over Dragon Claw after hearing your reasoning, and I'm definitely changing Shibirudon's moves too. But I have a question about Enbuoh: Why don't Nitro Charge and Hammer Arm work well together? Hammer Arm is somewhat of a reckless moves because it lowers speed, although I suppose that Enbuoh's is abyssmal anyway. Since Nitro Charge boosts Speed, doesn't that make the loss of speed from Hammer Arm more affordable?

Noctourniquet
31st October 2010, 6:40 PM
Hammer Arm and Nitro Charge are in complete conflict with each other because they cancel each other out entirely. In a moveset, your moves should be working together, or at least not negating each other. It's extremely inefficient to keep using Nitro Charge as an almost 'recharge turn' after attacking with Hammer Arm, and in-game, efficiency is really important. You said it yourself; Emboar's Spe is abysmal, so why bother boosting it just to have it drop again anyway? You might as well as just run a more powerful Fire attack like Flare Blitz to put emphasis on Enbuoh's Atk and HP stats, both of which are pretty solid.

Anyway, Aurawarrior8's rate was pretty decent but I have a few nitpicks. Imo Grass Knot is a pretty unreliable move in-game anyway, and when it only hits Rock, Ground and Water for Super Effective damage, the former two of which are weak to your Water STABs anyway, it becomes almost useless. If you're already mixing Daikenki, then why not run Aqua Jet > Grass Knot? It gets you some nice priority to help compensate for Daikenki's lower Spe and gets you in some revenge kills. Not to mention that it can make a massive difference when you're at low HP with Torrent working in a nasty situation against a faster opponent. As you're running two physical moves on the set already, I suppose Swords Dance can also work if you don't like the lower Base Power.

Despite the Accuracy boosts, Stone Edge still has appalling PP and you may not find yourself getting very far with it. Consider Rock Slide instead, although it's not really that big a problem anyway.

That's all. Hope it helps.

Banana Knight Arthur
31st October 2010, 10:12 PM
I've been working on planning a Black team for a while, and with some help from posters in an older thread of mine, I've composed a team that I'm satisfied with. I'm not using Dream World abilities and moves, or egg moves, so please don't suggest them.


http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/503.png
Daikenki
-Torrent-
-Surf
-X-Scissor/Megahorn
-Ice Beam
-Grass Knot

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/500.png
Enbuoh
-Blaze-
-Nitro Charge
-Hammer Arm
-Head Smash
-Boiling Water

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/497.png
Jalorda
-Overgrow-
-Leaf Blade
-Coil
-Leech Seed
-Dragon Tail

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/553.png
Waruvial
-Intimidate-
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Crunch
-Claw Sharpen

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/604.png
Shibirudon
-Levitate-
-Thunderbolt
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Claw
-Thunder Wave

http://floatzel.net/pokemon/black-white/sprites/images/612.png
Ononokus
-Mold Breaker-
-Dragon Claw
-Dragon Dance
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake

Comments would be appreciated.

I'd say try not to rely on the starters so much.

There are a lot of good pokemon introduced that are useful/diverse and you limit yourself depending on starters for half of your team.

Umbreon>Espeon
17th March 2011, 3:50 AM
I like your team because I often do the whole "all starters" thing on my games .

GalladeRocks
17th March 2011, 4:16 AM
I like your team because I often do the whole "all starters" thing on my games .

You do realize this thread is almost five months old, right? My team's changed, and I've got Leavanny and Darmanitan instead of Serperior and Emboar.