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Mobius_1
1st March 2011, 2:00 PM
Welcome to the Ace Combat thread! I was surprised that there wasn't any thread like this, I decided to open this thread, so that the SPPf members that have an Ace Combat game can discuss it here.

Well, so let's ask some question here, and as the thread starter, I'd like to ask one:

Ever since you like the Ace Combat series?

Mine was around 2006 when I saw the Ace Combat Zero review on a local gaming magazine. I thought the game was awesome, so I decided to buy it, and well... It was worth it. How about yours?

legnak
19th March 2011, 3:12 PM
Lemme see, My dad was in the airforce and he got me AC04 when it first came out, got addicted to it, loved playing Megalith. then I bought Ace combat 5 the unsung war (FREAKIN AWESOME STORY LINE) Bought Everything and unlocked all colors. then I bought ACZ to see the whole story line, and Mobius, if you pay attention to "Larry Foulke" Isn't he in the city you have to liberate in AC04?

All in all:

Favorite Plane: ADFX-01 Morgan
Weapon: MPBM (Multipurpose Burst missle)
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Least favorite: X-02 Wyvren
Weapon: QAAM (Quick-manuver Air-to-air missile)
reason: my brother ALWAYS Launches two to trail me and another two from above.

Mobius_1
5th April 2011, 11:42 AM
Lemme see, My dad was in the airforce and he got me AC04 when it first came out, got addicted to it, loved playing Megalith. then I bought Ace combat 5 the unsung war (FREAKIN AWESOME STORY LINE) Bought Everything and unlocked all colors. then I bought ACZ to see the whole story line, and Mobius, if you pay attention to "Larry Foulke" Isn't he in the city you have to liberate in AC04?

All in all:

Favorite Plane: ADFX-01 Morgan
Weapon: MPBM (Multipurpose Burst missle)
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Least favorite: X-02 Wyvren
Weapon: QAAM (Quick-manuver Air-to-air missile)
reason: my brother ALWAYS Launches two to trail me and another two from above.

The city that you liberate in AC04 is San Salvacion, which is also the hometown of the storyteller boy. Larry Foulke is in a border city in Delarus, so it's not the one you liberate i think.

Anyways, my fav jets:

Favourite plane: F/A-18E/F (The F is in AC6) Super Hornet, Su-37, F-22A, TND-IDS and F.3 and ADF-01 Falken
Favourite weapon: XM/LAA-Long range, and multi-target capabilities. In AC6, there's even an XMAA variant that can hit 6 targets, called XMA6.
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Least favourite plane: A-10A Thunderbolt II, F-5E Tiger II
Least favourite weapon: NPB, SFFS, TLS

Anyways, it seems that we two are the only fans of Ace Combat here, aren't we?

legnak
14th April 2011, 12:58 AM
I guess so, and thanks for clear the san salvicon thing up. and how can you hate the A-10? that my friend is a true beast.

Mobius_1
14th April 2011, 3:39 PM
I guess so, and thanks for clear the san salvicon thing up. and how can you hate the A-10? that my friend is a true beast.
Your welcome.

And yeah, I used to hate the Warthog (A-10A) beause it is slow, almost have no agility, and practically can't do anything to me, especially since I always fail a mission in an A-10A, at least in AC5, so I prefer the Tornado (IDS/Gr.1, F.3, gr.4) more than the A-10. However, just recently when I returned to play Ace Combat, I finally learned to like the ground attacking capabilities and now my hatred of the A-10 in all the PS2 games (AC04, 5, Zero) was gone 100%.

But still, for an attacker, I'd prefer the Tornado Gr.4 with BDSP, or F-15E with XMAA/UGBL(AC4), and SFFS/PGB/SAAM (ACZ), since they can practically do both Air-to-Air and Air-to-Ground combat much better than the A-10 (Which is solely a ground attack plane).

Crusina
14th April 2011, 11:00 PM
Su-47 Berkut.

Once you master it, there is no going back.

Mobius_1
15th April 2011, 10:23 AM
Su-47 Berkut.

Once you master it, there is no going back.
Su-47... I like it. Too bad it doesn't have a QAAM like in AC6. :(

Oh, and try the Tornado IDS (AC04)/Gr.1 (AC5)/Gr.4 (ACZ and AC6) with BDSP and LASM. It is also fun to use. Or maybe if you are bored enough, ADF-01 with TLS, ADFX-01 with MPBM, A-10A with FAEB, or a CFA-44 with ADMM will be very fun to use as you destroy all your enemies in almost no time.

legnak
16th April 2011, 12:31 AM
Favorite mission: Zero, Megalith, unsung war

All of those are fun... I beat Pixy with a F-117 Nighthawk once... Weird look in the end

Mobius_1
16th April 2011, 4:21 PM
Favorite mission: Zero, Megalith, unsung war

All of those are fun... I beat Pixy with a F-117 Nighthawk once... Weird look in the end

I did it once on F-4E on hard. Almost get killed by Pixy's fricken' MPBM though, but I somehow survived with 80% damage.

legnak
21st April 2011, 5:18 PM
that MPBM is a cheat.

Mobius_1
22nd April 2011, 2:30 PM
that MPBM is a cheat.

True. He can pop one of it in all of a sudden WITH NOT LOCKING ON, and it airbursts nearby, forcing you to break away or risk running into its blast. This is what nearly killed me when he pops one at close range when I managed to shove 2 missiles into his tailpipe and end the second phase, but it was too late and I end up running to it and get 80% damage.

legnak
23rd April 2011, 12:45 AM
I think it's funny on something about the brand new Ace combat... I've been writing a book quites some time now.... and ACE combat links with it perfectly... 2015... U.S vs. Russia... It's really getting me P.O'd

Mobius_1
29th April 2011, 5:49 AM
I think it's funny on something about the brand new Ace combat... I've been writing a book quites some time now.... and ACE combat links with it perfectly... 2015... U.S vs. Russia... It's really getting me P.O'd
What is the book about? I want to know more from it, and how did it link with Assault Horizon.

legnak
29th April 2011, 7:07 PM
it's litterally about russia, china and Iraq attacking the U.S and other allied nations... I'll send you the first chapter, tell me what you think.

Mobius_1
30th April 2011, 12:45 PM
it's litterally about russia, china and Iraq attacking the U.S and other allied nations... I'll send you the first chapter, tell me what you think.
Not bad, especially seeing that you have the Russians speak real Russian language. Anyways, will the story focuses on a Civilian POV like in AC6, or Soldier's POV?

legnak
3rd May 2011, 12:53 AM
it's both... the main character ends up becoming a soldier because his friend is killed.

Mobius_1
4th May 2011, 12:39 PM
Okay... So let's put another topic:

What is your most favourite mission in the entire Ace Combat series?

I would say "Shattered Skies" from Ace Combat 04. Since in that mission, there's pretty much to be nothing but a big, massive air battle over the Comona Island space center, and the background music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st84hazcfMU&feature=related) is also very good to hear.

legnak
5th May 2011, 9:53 PM
definantly that one or the Gauntlent, the unsung war or Megalith.

actully, any that hast to do with area B7R

Mobius_1
6th May 2011, 11:53 AM
definantly that one or the Gauntlet, the unsung war or Megalith.

actaully, any that hast to do with area B7R
Well, so Mayhem, The Round Table (I think it's the name of 3rd mission, IIRC) and The Demon Lord of round Table counts, eh? Since all those three (Beisdes Gauntlet) take place in B7R. Esp. Since those missions all have great OSTs.

And on the flip side, What is your LEAST favourite mission in Ace Combat?

I actually have 2 answers: "Handful of Hope" and "Ghosts of Razgriz". Both from AC5. Why? Because in "Handful of Hope", you must escort a damaged C-5A Galaxy through an automated AA system coverage, and often, even if you already maneouver enough to evade the radar circles, but the C-5A will still drift into the circle, and they can't seem to evade the SAM once the missile gets launched. And "Ghosts of Razgriz" because you have to fly low in a canyon to avoid SAMs located high, and the EF-2000s above will keep annoying you by launching missiles into you, and the only way to evade is either trick the missile to smack into something else, or do a sharp turn (Doing loops will trigger the SAMs above the canyon), all with high risk of crashing, and if you panic, you're going to crash often. Also, in the Ofnir part, they can easily cheat by flying through the ground, and then launching a barrage of 2 missiles that make you panic and crash when either checking your six, or evading the missile. That's my most hated mission in the entire AC. How about you?

legnak
9th May 2011, 7:29 PM
Same exact missions... along with siege of fanbrinti... too much... I like the Yellow fight though

Mobius_1
10th May 2011, 9:24 AM
Same exact missions... along with siege of fanbrinti... too much... I like the Yellow fight though
Uh... Sorry, but that is Farbanti. Anyways, I love that fight too. Especially since Yellow is my most favourite enemy squadron ever in the entire Ace Combat Series. Plus, Yellow's paint scheme is nice, and Su-37 is one of my most favourite jet in AC series.

And what do you think about the F-4E Phantom II in Ace Combat Zero? For me, it's much better than the ones in the earlier title as the SAAM was quite useful. How about you?

legnak
10th May 2011, 7:02 PM
well, the F-4 is one of my favorites, and it does seem to have greater capabilities the previous versions...

I still think it's weird the F-4X was able to rival the sr-71 in speed in reality.

Mobius_1
11th May 2011, 3:14 AM
well, the F-4 is one of my favorites, and it does seem to have greater capabilities the previous versions...

I still think it's weird the F-4X was able to rival the sr-71 in speed in reality.
From what I know, F-4X was fitted with dual 2500 gallon conformal water tanks to increase the engine efficiency and allowing it to hit Mach 2.7-3.2 . However, The project was cancelled due to some reasons, but from what I knew, it's because it can threaten the SR-71, or something like that. The F-4X is also my favourite F-4 variant in Ace Combat 5. Too bad that it has only 10 XMAAs.

legnak
11th May 2011, 5:18 PM
true, anyways, do you know if the ADF-01, Wyvren, or Morgan are on AC6?

Mobius_1
12th May 2011, 11:51 AM
true, anyways, do you know if the ADF-01, Wyvren, or Morgan are on AC6?
No. There's only CFA-44 Nosfeartu in AC6, which is still kick-*** because it has an ADMM, which can split into 18 warheads per launch, and you get 12 of them (I mean, there's 12 ADMM, and each launch, you can target up to 18 enemies, which means that you can destroy 216 targets. Hence the word "Able to turn the tide of battle in one shot"), and EML, which is an electromagnetic launcher that can destroy any aircraft in one shot with the exception of "Ilya Pasternak".

Oh, and after several months of void after the previous "Close Range Assault Trailer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAE8A6m2YPA)", Namco finally released a new trailer for Assault Horizon called "The Shark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fblKtKAAF2c&feature=player_embedded)". In which that the EF-2000 is confirmed to be in Assault Horizon (After previously speculated, as it appeared in the Iphone app), and we get some "Outline" of how's Markov VS. Bishop's fight will be.

And so... I want to ask you something: What are your thoughts of the upcoming Assault Horizon?

My thoughts about the upcoming game so far is very good. I still have a good hope of the game, and my already good hope of it is just getting better. Especially the CRA system is very good and interesting. Let's hope that Namco will do their best in making the actual game, so that it won't mess up like HAWX 2. How about you?

legnak
12th May 2011, 7:33 PM
my thoughts are:

OMG, actual Damage to planes, the shrapnel can kill you.

Boo: It mocks my book.

anyways: is it possible to have any of the planes I mentioned on the multiplayer online at least?

Mobius_1
13th May 2011, 11:18 AM
my thoughts are:

OMG, actual Damage to planes, the shrapnel can kill you.

Boo: It mocks my book.

anyways: is it possible to have any of the planes I mentioned on the multiplayer online at least?
Actually, some "Actual" damage to planes was done by Codemasters few years ago in their only flight game "Heatseeker", and it was pretty well executed. Also, did you notice that when the Typhoon fires the 6AAM (XMA6), the number goes down one per salvo, and not per launch (I.E. You have 10 6AAMs, but when you launch one, you end up firing all 6, and the number goes down to 9 instead of 4. Much like the ADMM in AC6)? Although it could be just an unfinished programming for the 6AAM, though.

And no. They didn't even exist in AC6 as I mentioned earlier. The only superplane in AC6-Which is the CFA-44 also has a limited capabilities in which that the ADMM is disabled.

legnak
16th May 2011, 7:08 PM
yeah I have heat seeker, not very fun IMO, but good explosions... but okay, thanks for clearing that up... are there gonna be any super planes in assault horizon?

Mobius_1
17th May 2011, 3:01 AM
yeah I have heat seeker, not very fun IMO, but good explosions... but okay, thanks for clearing that up... are there gonna be any super planes in assault horizon?
No. It's still unconfirmed yet, and it's very unlikely for us to get superplanes. I have heard somewhere (I forgot, maybe ACS) that superplanes won't appear in AH. But let's just hope that it will change and a superplane (Preferably the CFA-44 or the ADF-01F FALKEN) will appear in it.

legnak
17th May 2011, 7:07 PM
the ADF-01 Falken? that'll level the entire city.

Mobius_1
18th May 2011, 8:57 AM
the ADF-01 Falken? that'll level the entire city.
I'm with you, but then, there's nothing crazier than the ADMM in Ace Combat 6, since it can target 18 air and ground target at once! You want to see how it works? Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjBXZaP-t5U).

Oh, and also, a new topic:

Besides EF-2000, F-22A, Su-35BM, Su-33, F-14D, F-16C, A-10C, F-15C/E, and Rafale M, which are the other airplanes that you wish to see in Assault Horizon?

For me, I would like to see the older superplanes from the earlier games, F/A-18E Super Hornet, Mirage F1, Mirage 2000, and the Su-27 Flanker. How about you?

legnak
23rd May 2011, 7:46 PM
for certain, a Saab Draken

Mobius_1
24th May 2011, 6:52 AM
for certain, a Saab Draken
Agreed.

Oh, and also, the gameplay video of Assault Horizon that features the 1st part from Miami is already available. It's pretty strange that Namco doesn't release the AH segment to YouTube just yet.

Gameplay video link:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/14831475

Skip to 02:03:00 for the gameplay video of Assault Horizon that I mentioned, as the previous segment features SoulCalibur V and several other games.

And so... Here comes the new topic:

What do you think with the new gameplay video of Assault Horizon?

All I can say about it is that the gameplay looks convincing so far, but it seems to be very hard to destroy your enemies without the new CRA, and the "Death cam" (The moment when you destroy an airplane, the camera highlights to it) doesn't seem to be satisfying as often, it doesn't really track the wreckage like we saw in the trailers. And the damage indicator is still not clearly seen for yet. Also, Namco has already shifted into higher level of profanity by having the characters saying "s***" twice. But anyways, I'm pretty sure that all those technical hiccups are just because Namco still doesn't completely finish some aspects, and I'm sure that the actual game (Or at least the demo) will be far better from now.

The good thing is, that we can use CRA in the cockpit, and the pitch ladder is still present in cockpit/HUD view (Unlike HAWX2). What about you?

legnak
25th May 2011, 1:42 AM
Not gonna lie, the graphics look kinda crappy, but I love how the destruction is.

Mobius_1
25th May 2011, 5:14 AM
Not gonna lie, the graphics look kinda crappy, but I love how the destruction is.
Really? I thought that the graphics were okay to me. But then, yeah, the destruction sounds quite good. I'm sure that the demo and actual game will be far better than the one in the video (Assuming that it's still a beta, as the enemies are nothing but Su-35s).

Anyways, we might have to wait till November to find out what AH really is. Hopefully, it will surpass the quality of AC04, AC5, and AC6 combined. How about you?

legnak
20th June 2011, 9:48 AM
hopefully...

I also hope it's got more missions than AC6

whatta waste of money... 15 missions, 12 planes?!?

Mobius_1
16th July 2011, 5:19 PM
hopefully...

I also hope it's got more missions than AC6

whatta waste of money... 15 missions, 12 planes?!?
Not to mention that there's only one Russian planes. The rest are US, EU, or fictional.

However, there's still some musics that I like from AC6, such as "Selumna Peak", "Liberation of Gracemeria", and "Fires of Liberation". And no matter what people say about AC6, I still like it

Oh, and Assault Horizon's Multiplayer is confirmed:

http://electrosphere.acecombatskies.com/topic/4926-acah-multiplayer/

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201107/07046365.html

Note: You must have an Electrosphere account to view the top link, and the link below is in Japanese.

And:

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201107/images/00046365/Ri8khwBvs4344QevV1Tf196S942Ms1NS.jpg

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201107/images/00046365/GqBTx1M112Y6z95NH5b9KXCF1xRkt83z.jpg

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201107/images/00046365/s202_SxUypN4u2hKqCyo74G18CxvV47NtwGs7.jpg

New planes: F-117A, Mi-24D.