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Trevenant
12th June 2014, 4:22 PM
The IVs aren't questionably good/bad and that nature isn't very helpful, so I think it was just a lucky shiny.

Looks like a legit shiny to me.

FairyWitch
13th June 2014, 5:22 PM
Got this from the GTS and I don't know if this is legit or not

Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: None
OT: シユソスケ
OT Gender: Can't tell (6th gen)
IDno: 27970
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: Decent all around according to the judge in Kiloude
Nature: Lax
Characteristic: Highly persistent
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Thunderbolt, Hydro Pump, Aeroblast, Blizzard
Level Caught at: Unknown (imported from Hoenn)
Current Level: 100
Stats: 210/348/235/320/229
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It's Japanese

I don't see anything wrong with pokemon and it can be shiny at naval rock it looks legal to me....

Helio Breaker
13th June 2014, 8:12 PM
My bad, didn't read the first post.

Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: n/a
OT: WIN2011
OT Gender: blue
IDno: 02211
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 0/0/0/0/0/0
Nature: Sassy
Characteristic: Loves to eat
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Leaf Storm, Recover, Nasty Plot, Healing Wish
Level Caught at: 50
Current Level: 50
Stats: 160/105/105/105/115/94
Location Caught: Special Place (Fateful Encounter)
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: Classic Ribbon

I double checked the iv's and they are all at 0, other then that I noticed one other thing wrong with it. I got this same celebi from the event a few years ago and the trainer ID should be red. I checked on a few sites to make sure and it says the ID was always female for celebi

Shine
14th June 2014, 4:49 AM
Yeah, all 0 IV is usually an indication of a hack.

It is possible to be incredibly unlucky like that (Sassy + 6 0IV) through pure soft resetting, but the chance is so miniscule that it being a hack is much more likely.

I'm guessing it is a hack meant to be used as trade bait to less knowledgeable people, hence the sucky IV and Nature.

Trevenant
15th June 2014, 6:37 AM
Some people do RNG abuse intentionally bad Pokemon like that, but odds are pretty unlikely.
The person who gave it to you, how did he get it? Did he get it in a trade or did he obtain it himself? If the latter, is he a known RNGer?

FairyWitch
15th June 2014, 8:56 AM
Some people do RNG abuse intentionally bad Pokemon like that, but odds are pretty unlikely.
The person who gave it to you, how did he get it? Did he get it in a trade or did he obtain it himself? If the latter, is he a known RNGer?

yes some people rng all 0 mons sometimes just for fun but its really rare tbh but its really more likely the celebi may be hacked though over rnged but it is possible to rng it all 0's but like i said if they did its just a joke rng...

varanus_komodoensis
15th June 2014, 9:13 AM
Some people do RNG abuse intentionally bad Pokemon like that, but odds are pretty unlikely.
The person who gave it to you, how did he get it? Did he get it in a trade or did he obtain it himself? If the latter, is he a known RNGer?

Well, like Helio Breaker said, the OT gender is supposed to be red, and the OP said it was blue. That plus the hex-0 IVs means it's a hack.

nknecrosis
16th June 2014, 6:04 AM
Would anyone happen to know the encounter info for the birth island Deoxys from Emerald and the New Moon Island Darkrai, I can't figure it out for the life of me to get a legal one to pass. Also, if this is against the rules, I apologize. I just noticed that this is the most lively hack-check forum that is still being used and would like some help if possible. Thanks!

varanus_komodoensis
16th June 2014, 6:10 AM
Would anyone happen to know the encounter info for the birth island Deoxys from Emerald and the New Moon Island Darkrai, I can't figure it out for the life of me to get a legal one to pass. Also, if this is against the rules, I apologize. I just noticed that this is the most lively hack-check forum that is still being used and would like some help if possible. Thanks!

Are you trying to Gen one or something?

QuoteMissy
16th June 2014, 6:23 AM
Would anyone happen to know the encounter info for the birth island Deoxys from Emerald and the New Moon Island Darkrai, I can't figure it out for the life of me to get a legal one to pass. Also, if this is against the rules, I apologize. I just noticed that this is the most lively hack-check forum that is still being used and would like some help if possible. Thanks!


Are you trying to Gen one or something?

Yeah, the discussion of third-party devices is prohibited on the forum and PokeGen/other hacking apparatus is HIGH up there, just a heads up. It's the first rule posted here (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?397567-Serebii-Forums-Rules)

varanus_komodoensis
16th June 2014, 6:26 AM
Yeah Serebii doesn't like the discussion of third-party devices on his forum and PokeGen/other hacking apparatus is HIGH up there. It's the first rule another admin Shining Mew posted here (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?397567-Serebii-Forums-Rules)

I asked because I didn't want to answer the question if that's what was going on.

LLR
19th June 2014, 5:46 AM
Pokemon Species: Charizard
Nickname: none
OT: Sky
OT Gender: White
IDno: 33395
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: x/31/x/x/x/x
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Proud of its power
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Flare Blitz, Heat Wave, Shadow Claw, Flamethower
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 308/228/193/235/226/235
Location Caught: Traveled across time an Space to reach Kalos from Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: Memory Girl "The Pokemon seems to have a good memory, but it doesn't seem to be able to remember...and Charizard became Sage's friend when it arrived from link trade"

QuoteMissy
19th June 2014, 6:02 AM
Pokemon Species: Charizard
Nickname: none
OT: Sky
OT Gender: White
IDno: 33395
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: x/31/x/x/x/x
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Proud of its power
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Flare Blitz, Heat Wave, Shadow Claw, Flamethower
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 308/228/193/235/226/235
Location Caught: Traveled across time an Space to reach Kalos from Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: Memory Girl "The Pokemon seems to have a good memory, but it doesn't seem to be able to remember...and Charizard became Sage's friend when it arrived from link trade"

Hacked, shiny & Blaze Charizards can only be in default pokeballs before 6th gen.

joe_alker
22nd June 2014, 5:05 PM
Pokemon Species: Shedinja
Nickname: MUNJA
OT: ELIE
OT Gender: male
IDno: 46731
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Dunno
IV's: Dunno
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Strong Willed
Ability: Wonder Guard
Moves: Frustration, Shadow Sneak, Confuse Ray, Grudge
Level Caught at: 50
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP: 1 Atk: 89 Def: 58 Sp Atk: 50 Sp Def: 47 Speed: 51
Location Caught: Sinnoh (think it was around Route 224)
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: Recieved on 4th Gen GTS a long time ago, only just got round to checking.

varanus_komodoensis
22nd June 2014, 7:16 PM
Pokemon Species: Shedinja
Nickname: MUNJA
OT: ELIE
OT Gender: male
IDno: 46731
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Dunno
IV's: Dunno
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Strong Willed
Ability: Wonder Guard
Moves: Frustration, Shadow Sneak, Confuse Ray, Grudge
Level Caught at: 50
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP: 1 Atk: 89 Def: 58 Sp Atk: 50 Sp Def: 47 Speed: 51
Location Caught: Sinnoh (think it was around Route 224)
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: Recieved on 4th Gen GTS a long time ago, only just got round to checking.

I did a little research before I posted this, and as far as I can tell, Shedinja can ONLY be in a normal Poke Ball. Therefore this Shedinja is hacked.

It's also really weird that it says it was "caught" at level 50 - Nincada evolves at level 20. The OT could have delayed evolution for 30 levels but I find that unlikely. But assuming this in in Gen VI (since you have Shadow Sneak), the "level caught at" isn't actually listed on the stat page. Anyway, I would be interested to see what its IVs are.

FairyWitch
23rd June 2014, 6:48 AM
Pokemon Species: Shedinja
Nickname: MUNJA
OT: ELIE
OT Gender: male
IDno: 46731
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Dunno
IV's: Dunno
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Strong Willed
Ability: Wonder Guard
Moves: Frustration, Shadow Sneak, Confuse Ray, Grudge
Level Caught at: 50
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP: 1 Atk: 89 Def: 58 Sp Atk: 50 Sp Def: 47 Speed: 51
Location Caught: Sinnoh (think it was around Route 224)
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: Recieved on 4th Gen GTS a long time ago, only just got round to checking.

hacked i very sure when shedninja comes out its goes in a pokeball not a ultra ball

dewey911p
23rd June 2014, 10:59 AM
I did a little research before I posted this, and as far as I can tell, Shedinja can ONLY be in a normal Poke Ball.

A Nincada caught and evolved in gen 3 will evolve into a Shedinja that keeps the ball that was used to catch Nincada. It doesn't apply here since the one in question is from gen 4, but it is possible. Bulbapedia confirms this in point one under the trivia section (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shedinja_(Pok%C3%A9mon)) and Agonist RNGed one in gen 3 as well. Just thought I would throw that out there.

Miss Alexis
24th June 2014, 8:33 AM
I couldnt find a heck-check thread for the 6th Generation Pokemon games so I didnt think it would hurt to use this one-

Pokemon Species: Torchic
Nickname: Torchic
OT: XY
OT Gender: White
IDno: 10123
Shiny?: No
EV's: None
IV's: Random
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Strong Willed
Ability: Speed Boost
Moves: Scratch, Growl, Focus Energy, Ember
Level Caught at: 10
Current Level: 10
Stats: 29/19/13/20/17/15
Location Caught: Apparently a fateful encounter.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: Everything looks normal except for its Date Met, which is 11/17/2012. If anything it should be 2013, not 2012. Could you possibly have the wrong date/year on your DS for it to turn out this way or is this a hack?

varanus_komodoensis
24th June 2014, 8:40 AM
I couldnt find a heck-check thread for the 6th Generation Pokemon games so I didnt think it would hurt to use this one-

Pokemon Species: Torchic
Nickname: Torchic
OT: XY
OT Gender: White
IDno: 10123
Shiny?: No
EV's: None
IV's: Random
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Strong Willed
Ability: Speed Boost
Moves: Scratch, Growl, Focus Energy, Ember
Level Caught at: 10
Current Level: 10
Stats: 29/19/13/20/17/15
Location Caught: Apparently a fateful encounter.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: Everything looks normal except for its Date Met, which is 11/17/2012. If anything it should be 2013, not 2012. Could you possibly have the wrong date/year on your DS for it to turn out this way or is this a hack?

You can set the date on your DS to whatever date you want, so this Torchic looks fine to me. Date is never an indication of a hack.

cinderkitteh
1st July 2014, 8:39 PM
I received a Carvanha on GTS. Everything about it checks out, but it's in a Moon Ball and according to serebii's pokedex, it can only be caught on the Pokewalker. Does that make this Carvanha a hack?

QuoteMissy
1st July 2014, 11:18 PM
I received a Carvanha on GTS. Everything about it checks out, but it's in a Moon Ball and according to serebii's pokedex, it can only be caught on the Pokewalker. Does that make this Carvanha a hack?

Yes it would.

Trevenant
2nd July 2014, 4:34 AM
I received a Carvanha on GTS. Everything about it checks out, but it's in a Moon Ball and according to serebii's pokedex, it can only be caught on the Pokewalker. Does that make this Carvanha a hack?It can be caught in D/P/Pt.

I can't remember, do the games allow you to trade over HG/SS balls like the Moon Ball over to D/P/Pt? Or does the item get taken off/replaced?

varanus_komodoensis
2nd July 2014, 5:01 AM
It can be caught in D/P/Pt.

I can't remember, do the games allow you to trade over HG/SS balls like the Moon Ball over to D/P/Pt? Or does the item get taken off/replaced?

You can't transfer Apricorn Balls to D/P/Pt. This is why Moon Ball Eevee is illegal. When you transfer an Apricorn Ball over, it just turns into a regular Poke Ball because D/P/Pt were made 3 years prior to HGSS and the Apricorn Balls were not programmed into the original Gen IV games.

Therefore Moon Ball Carvanha is illegal.

cinderkitteh
2nd July 2014, 10:37 PM
You can't transfer Apricorn Balls to D/P/Pt. This is why Moon Ball Eevee is illegal. When you transfer an Apricorn Ball over, it just turns into a regular Poke Ball because D/P/Pt were made 3 years prior to HGSS and the Apricorn Balls were not programmed into the original Gen IV games.

Therefore Moon Ball Carvanha is illegal.

Thanks all! I evolved it for dex fodder, won't be trading or breeding it anytime soon.

Curvee
9th July 2014, 10:35 PM
Hello everyone~ !! I just received this Sylveon in a trade but after a quick look at the serebii event database I noticed some of its information did not match with the XY event...o ^ o...Soooo...~ Here I am~ !! I would like to have your oppinions on this Sylveon. Thank you very much in advance for your help~ !! Also I apologize If this is the wrong thread, I couldn't find an hack-check thread for the sixth gen...~ XD;;

Pokemon Species: Sylveon
Nickname: Japanese
OT: XY
OT Gender: Unknown.
IDno: 01044
Shiny?: No
EV's: Unknown
IV's: Unknown
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Somewhat stubborn
Ability: Cute Charm
Moves: Disarming Voice, Baby-Doll Eyes, Quick Attack, Draining Kiss.
Level Caught at: Met at level 10.
Current Level: 10
Stats: HP: 39, Attack: 18, Defense: 19, Special Attack: 28, Special Defense: 32, Speed: 18
Location Caught: A Pokemon Event
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: It has an Event ribbon. Its also a female Sylveon.

varanus_komodoensis
9th July 2014, 10:48 PM
Hello everyone~ !! I just received this Sylveon in a trade but after a quick look at the serebii event database I noticed some of its information did not match with the XY event...o ^ o...Soooo...~ Here I am~ !! I would like to have your oppinions on this Sylveon. Thank you very much in advance for your help~ !! Also I apologize If this is the wrong thread, I couldn't find an hack-check thread for the sixth gen...~ XD;;

Pokemon Species: Sylveon
Nickname: Japanese
OT: XY
OT Gender: Unknown.
IDno: 01044
Shiny?: No
EV's: Unknown
IV's: Unknown
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Somewhat stubborn
Ability: Cute Charm
Moves: Disarming Voice, Baby-Doll Eyes, Quick Attack, Draining Kiss.
Level Caught at: Met at level 10.
Current Level: 10
Stats: HP: 39, Attack: 18, Defense: 19, Special Attack: 28, Special Defense: 32, Speed: 18
Location Caught: A Pokemon Event
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: It has an Event ribbon. Its also a female Sylveon.

Serebii doesn't have the XY event Sylveon listed for some reason. The XY Sylveon was given away in Taiwan and Hong Kong, and this Sylveon appears to match the parameters for it. It would be really helpful for hack-checking if you could list the IVs - go to the IV judge in Kiloude City and see what he says about it. I ran an IV calc on it and it appears to have really low IVs, which is good news in terms of legitimacy and bad news in terms of competitive usefulness. Also, does the Sylveon say that it was met at "a Pokemon event" or does it say "fateful encounter at level 10"?

Curvee
9th July 2014, 11:36 PM
Serebii doesn't have the XY event Sylveon listed for some reason. The XY Sylveon was given away in Taiwan and Hong Kong, and this Sylveon appears to match the parameters for it. It would be really helpful for hack-checking if you could list the IVs - go to the IV judge in Kiloude City and see what he says about it. I ran an IV calc on it and it appears to have really low IVs, which is good news in terms of legitimacy and bad news in terms of competitive usefulness. Also, does the Sylveon say that it was met at "a Pokemon event" or does it say "fateful encounter at level 10"?

Oh I see~ !! I wasn't aware that there was other XY Sylveon's thank you for letting me know. As for her potential the judge said she was decent overall with her Sp.def being her best stat, he also added that she definately got some good stats.

It says she was met at a Pokemon event~ The note section stating she apparently had a fateful encounter.

Matsuyamakun
11th July 2014, 12:09 AM
Hello, I got Genesect from trade. I want to know it is legit or not.
First event on this link: http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/649.shtml

Pokemon Species: Genesect(JPN)
Nickname: Genesect (not ゲノセクト)
OT: えいがかん
ID No: 07133
Shiny: Yes
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Download
Moves: Shift Gear, Blaze Kick, Extreme Speed, U-turn
Level 100
It has 6IVs, random EVs

Stats, OT, ID NO look fine, but "Is Shiny JPN Genesect with english name possible?"

Also I have 3IV Shiny Genesect and it has japanese name "ゲノセクト", but 6IV one has English name and I am really confused. Any help would be really appreciated.

QuoteMissy
11th July 2014, 12:34 AM
Hello, I got Genesect from trade. I want to know it is legit or not.
First event on this link: http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/649.shtml

Pokemon Species: Genesect(JPN)
Nickname: Genesect (not ゲノセクト)
OT: えいがかん
ID No: 07133
Shiny: Yes
Nature: Hasty
Ability: Download
Moves: Shift Gear, Blaze Kick, Extreme Speed, U-turn
Level 100
It has 6IVs, random EVs

Stats, OT, ID NO look fine, but "Is Shiny JPN Genesect with english name possible?"

Also I have 3IV Shiny Genesect and it has japanese name "ゲノセクト", but 6IV one has English name and I am really confused. Any help would be really appreciated.

This event Genesect cannot have it's english name, it's hacked. Re-naming it "Genesect" with ID abuse isn't possible because of the character limit in 5th gen and before.

Matsuyamakun
11th July 2014, 12:42 AM
This event Genesect cannot have it's english name, it's hacked. Re-naming it "Genesect" with ID abuse isn't possible because of the character limit in 5th gen and before.

I see, thanks for the info.

SilverLanayru
11th July 2014, 12:54 AM
Speaking of, that reminded me... I just finally remembered that one other event Pokémon I needed to get hack-checked.

Pokémon Species: Deoxys (Speed Forme)
Nickname: 테오키스 (Deoxys in Korean)
OT: 한국닌텐도
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 08308
Shiny?: No.
EV's: 252 HP / 4 SpDef / 252 Speed
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Flawless, according to IV judge.)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Light Screen / Reflect / Stealth Rock / Taunt
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 100
Stats: 304 / 203 / 216 / 226 / 217 / 504
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?: No.
Pokéball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: It is holding a Classic Ribbon.

This is the Nintendo of Korea Deoxys; it isn't listed in the Serebii event dex, but it is listed on Bulbapedia. It was cloned and traded to me, but since this is an event from Gen IV, I'd like a clarification on if it was possible to RNG abuse this kind of IV spread. o.o

QuoteMissy
11th July 2014, 12:58 AM
This is the Nintendo of Korea Deoxys; it isn't listed in the Serebii event dex, but it is listed on Bulbapedia. It was cloned and traded to me, but since this is an event from Gen IV, I'd like a clarification on if it was possible to RNG abuse this kind of IV spread. o.o

Yes, timid can be hex-flawless in 4th gen.

SilverLanayru
11th July 2014, 1:03 AM
Yes, timid can be hex-flawless in 4th gen.
Ah, noted. Sounds legal enough to me, in this case.
(So much more to learn in the RNG abusing category. lol)
Thanks for clarifying, Quote. ^^

varanus_komodoensis
11th July 2014, 7:06 AM
Oh I see~ !! I wasn't aware that there was other XY Sylveon's thank you for letting me know. As for her potential the judge said she was decent overall with her Sp.def being her best stat, he also added that she definately got some good stats.

It says she was met at a Pokemon event~ The note section stating she apparently had a fateful encounter.

Ah, the XY Sylveon does have "Pokemon Event". Everything about this Sylveon looks legal except that the name is in Japanese, or some other foreign language. Everything I can find about this event states that although it was given out in Taiwan and Hong Kong, that all of the text is in English. I'm not sure if this Sylveon is hacked or not. I wouldn't release it until you got a second opinion, or found someone else who has this event.

Trevenant
11th July 2014, 4:10 PM
I'm pretty sure PowerSaves-injected Pokemon can't be traded. If it was given to you, it's probably legit.

varanus_komodoensis
11th July 2014, 4:12 PM
I'm pretty sure PowerSaves-injected Pokemon can't be traded. If it was given to you, it's probably legit.

Anything can be traded over PSS, including things like PowerSave-edited shiny Xerneas and Yvetal. Since XY Sylveon has an Event Ribbon on it, I don't think it can be traded over GTS, which means he must have gotten it from PSS or from a trade with someone he knows, meaning it could very well be hacked.

dragontamer44722
12th July 2014, 4:32 PM
so I've got a good question. How likely is it to get a Keldeo that's timid with 6ivs? I can't fill out the form in its entirety since I don't have my game on me, but the basics are...

Lvl 50. in a Cherish Ball, has the event ribbon, 6ivs and Timid. Surf, Calm mind, Substitute, and Sacred Sword. I'm sure its possible to RNG it, but I wanted to make sure. I'd give the name of the original trainer but I can't since I don't have my game right now, though it does say it was traded from Unova and from the memory girl it says it had a memory but can't remember it.

Matsuyamakun
12th July 2014, 9:29 PM
so I've got a good question. How likely is it to get a Keldeo that's timid with 6ivs? I can't fill out the form in its entirety since I don't have my game on me, but the basics are...

Lvl 50. in a Cherish Ball, has the event ribbon, 6ivs and Timid. Surf, Calm mind, Substitute, and Sacred Sword. I'm sure its possible to RNG it, but I wanted to make sure. I'd give the name of the original trainer but I can't since I don't have my game right now, though it does say it was traded from Unova and from the memory girl it says it had a memory but can't remember it.

This event should be from WIN2013 event.
OT: WIN2013
ID NO: 01163
Has wishing ribbon

I RNG'ed myself 5IV Flawless Timid Keldeo when the event came out.
I go to memory girl with my Keldeo.She says Keldeo has a good memory, but it doesn't seem to able to remember and Keldeo became friend when it arrived Link Trade at somewhere.(Pokebank I guess:))
6IV Keldeo is possible, but can't say %100 legit.

dragontamer44722
12th July 2014, 9:35 PM
yeah I had thought so as well. Were it a 5iv one I wouldn't question it, but the fact it had 6 made me a little apprehensive. Thanks for the info :)

ShyOctopus
13th July 2014, 12:09 AM
Got this from a trade and noticed it's in a heavy ball. Considering you can't breed Metagross in Apricorn Balls since it's genderless, I'm 99.9999% sure this is hacked or at the very least had its ball changed with powersave.

Pokemon Species: Metagross
OT: Jun
IDno: 35443
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: 252 in HP, 252 in Atk, 4 in Sp Def I think
IV's: 6 IVs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Clear Body
Moves: Bullet Punch, Hammer Arm, Earthquake, Meteor Mash
Current Level: 51
Location Caught: Kalos; Hatched from a daycare egg in Lumiose City
Pokeball Caught In: Heavy ball
Any other notes?: I want to say you can't even catch a Beldum/Metang/Metagross in a Heavy Ball anyway in HGSS, so this thing is double busted on that part ahahaha

SilverLanayru
13th July 2014, 12:18 AM
Got this from a trade and noticed it's in a heavy ball. Considering you can't breed Metagross in Apricorn Balls since it's genderless, I'm 99.9999% sure this is hacked or at the very least had its ball changed with powersave.

Pokemon Species: Metagross
OT: Jun
IDno: 35443
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: 252 in HP, 252 in Atk, 4 in Sp Def I think
IV's: 6 IVs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Clear Body
Moves: Bullet Punch, Hammer Arm, Earthquake, Meteor Mash
Current Level: 51
Location Caught: Kalos; Hatched from a daycare egg in Lumiose City
Pokeball Caught In: Heavy ball
Any other notes?: I want to say you can't even catch a Beldum/Metang/Metagross in a Heavy Ball anyway in HGSS, so this thing is double busted on that part ahahaha
While everything else checks out correctly... the Heavy Ball was likely powersaved, so I'd say this is illegal.

(Relating to the illegal ball issue, I know there has been a recent debate concerning Ray Rizzo's Aegislash in a Dream Ball used in the nationals, but not sure what the officials declared yet. .-. Pokéballs are apparently srs business.)

varanus_komodoensis
13th July 2014, 2:49 AM
Got this from a trade and noticed it's in a heavy ball. Considering you can't breed Metagross in Apricorn Balls since it's genderless, I'm 99.9999% sure this is hacked or at the very least had its ball changed with powersave.

Pokemon Species: Metagross
OT: Jun
IDno: 35443
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: 252 in HP, 252 in Atk, 4 in Sp Def I think
IV's: 6 IVs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Clear Body
Moves: Bullet Punch, Hammer Arm, Earthquake, Meteor Mash
Current Level: 51
Location Caught: Kalos; Hatched from a daycare egg in Lumiose City
Pokeball Caught In: Heavy ball
Any other notes?: I want to say you can't even catch a Beldum/Metang/Metagross in a Heavy Ball anyway in HGSS, so this thing is double busted on that part ahahaha

The Beldum line is only available in the Safari Zone in HGSS, so this Metagross is hacked :(


While everything else checks out correctly... the Heavy Ball was likely powersaved, so I'd say this is illegal.

(Relating to the illegal ball issue, I know there has been a recent debate concerning Ray Rizzo's Aegislash in a Dream Ball used in the nationals, but not sure what the officials declared yet. .-. Pokéballs are apparently srs business.)

I haven't heard about this debate, but no Gen VI Pokemon can be in a Dream Ball, ever. That Aegislash is hacked and he should be reprimanded for it, because part of the rules of those competitions is that you can't use hacked Pokemon. As a (three time?) World Champion, he sets the standard and needs to be a good example for everyone else. If he gets away with doing even a harmless hack like a ball, then other players who look up to him will think it's okay for them to hack as well.

SilverLanayru
13th July 2014, 3:21 AM
I haven't heard about this debate, but no Gen VI Pokemon can be in a Dream Ball, ever. That Aegislash is hacked and he should be reprimanded for it, because part of the rules of those competitions is that you can't use hacked Pokemon. As a (three time?) World Champion, he sets the standard and needs to be a good example for everyone else. If he gets away with doing even a harmless hack like a ball, then other players who look up to him will think it's okay for them to hack as well.
Yeah, I definitely know what you mean. Btw, here ya go, Varanus. A friend of mine linked this in a skype chat not too long ago: http://pocketmonster.kotaku.com/fans-are-pissed-about-alleged-cheating-in-the-recent-po-1601289614
Ray didn't win the tourney, but this is his response to the ordeal: https://www.facebook.com/ray.rizzo.5/posts/10204350183862539

ShyOctopus
13th July 2014, 3:47 AM
The Beldum line is only available in the Safari Zone in HGSS, so this Metagross is hacked :(



While everything else checks out correctly... the Heavy Ball was likely powersaved, so I'd say this is illegal.

That's what I figured ahahahaha. I might keep it as an oddity, maybe I'll transfer it to ORAS so I can see shiny Megagross.

Trevenant
13th July 2014, 3:49 AM
A 6IV Keldeo is perfectly fine. Gen 4 was the last gen where there were any IV restrictions on what could be caught/obtained via wondercards.


As a (three time?) World Champion, he sets the standard and needs to be a good example for everyone else. If he gets away with doing even a harmless hack like a ball, then other players who look up to him will think it's okay for them to hack as well.People have hacked in official tournaments for years. At least the Dream Ball was (supposedly) just from a hacked parent or something and didn't affect anything substantial.

I recall at some point in either the late 2000s or early 2010s an infamous PokeSav'd Metagross that was floating around that was used by several people in the VGCs or something.

Official hack checks are terrible, they always have been. Whether its the laughable hack-protection featured for PokeTransporter or other parts, they've never been thorough period and just barely even look for things a human does (illegal balls, etc).

They never account for actual bits of data (which is why illegal HA Pokemon were transferable, though to my knowledge they fixed this). Heck, the most "thorough" their hack checks ever got for data investigating... is that PokeTransporter blocks out anything with 255 EVs in a stat. 252 is fine. 253-255 is not. Not sure why...

(his FB post made me laugh, though. How many times did he have to convince himself by having every fifth word be "legit", "legitly", "legitimately", or other variants...?)

varanus_komodoensis
13th July 2014, 3:50 AM
A 6IV Keldeo is perfectly fine. Gen 4 was the last gen where there were any IV restrictions on what could be caught/obtained via wondercards.

People have hacked in official tournaments for years. At least the Dream Ball was (supposedly) just from a hacked parent or something and didn't affect anything substantial.

I recall at some point in either the late 2000s or early 2010s an infamous PokeSav'd Metagross that was floating around that was used by several people in the VGCs or something.

Official hack checks are terrible, they always have been. Whether its the laughable hack-protection featured for PokeTransporter or other parts, they've never been thorough period and just barely even look for things a human does (illegal balls, etc).

They never account for actual bits of data (which is why illegal HA Pokemon were transferable, though to my knowledge they fixed this). Heck, the most "thorough" their hack checks ever got for data investigating... is that PokeTransporter blocks out anything with 255 EVs in a stat. 252 is fine. 253-255 is not. Not sure why...

(his FB post made me laugh, though. How many times did he have to convince himself by having every fifth word be "legit", "legitly", "legitimately", or other variants...?)

Nintendo seriously needs to hire the people in this thread to do their tournament Hack-checking for them.

Matsuyamakun
13th July 2014, 1:32 PM
I posted Shiny Genesect's stats in previous page. Everything else was fine(IVs, moves, level, nature, ribbon etc.), but nickname wasn't legit so it was hacked. All pokemons can be hacked with enough effort.

I got shiny 6IV Darkrai with wrong nature from trade in White 2. I used pokecheck to check stats and it was hacked. Unfortunately Darkrai passed through pokebank and I released that Darkrai in my Pokemon X game.

There was a tournament in last summer(Global Link), before Pokemon X/Y released. Legendary/special pokemons was allowed to use in that tournament. They announced tournament results too late. Because they detected a lot of hacked pokemons, but Pokebank wasn't able to detect most of hacked pokemons.

I agree with Varanus. Nintendo should do something for hack-checking. They need to improve it. I think they should able to hack-check pokemons before registering VGC tournaments, rating battles etc. I have some 6IV legendary/event pokemons, but I don't know they are RNG or hack, so I can't use them in VGC tournaments.

dragontamer44722
13th July 2014, 3:15 PM
This is why I hesitated with the Keldeo. The last thing I wanted to do is use it if it was illegal. Mine did end up checking out as far as others could tell, but you just can't tell unless you got it yourself.

By the way, thanks to the people who helped with the Keldeo, much obliged :)

dewey911p
13th July 2014, 9:16 PM
A 6IV Keldeo is perfectly fine. Gen 4 was the last gen where there were any IV restrictions on what could be caught/obtained via wondercards.

Gen 4 wondercards use a different method of generation than wild pokemon and thus gen 4 event pokemon from wondercards are not limited to Method J/K spreads. As far as I am aware, any IV/nature combo was possible for gen 4 wondercard events



I agree with Varanus. Nintendo should do something for hack-checking. They need to improve it. I think they should able to hack-check pokemons before registering VGC tournaments, rating battles etc. I have some 6IV legendary/event pokemons, but I don't know they are RNG or hack, so I can't use them in VGC tournaments.

You're always welcome to post them here to double check :) We are pretty good at spotting hacks if they are bad enough.

Matsuyamakun
13th July 2014, 10:43 PM
Thanks dewey. I don't know much about previous gen events. Here are some 6IV pokemons I have. Their stats, natures look fine to me, so I keep them.

Pokemon Species: Giratina
Nickname: N/A
OT: Joey
ID No: 42890
Shiny: Yes
EV's: None
IV's: Flawless 6IV
Nature: Modest
Characteristic:Capable of taking hits
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Shadow Force, Earthquake, Earth Power and Dragon Pulse
Level: 70
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball


Pokemon Species: Rayquaza (JPN, Nobunaga's Rayquaza)
Nickname: レックウザ
OT: ノブナガ
ID No: 03172
Shiny: Yes
IV's: Flawless 6IV
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Air Lock
Level: 100
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Ribbon: Classic Ribbon


Pokemon Species: Arceus
Nickname: N/A
OT: TRU
ID No: 11079
Shiny: No
IV's: Flawless 6IV
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Multitype
Level: 100
Moves: Calm Mind, Judgment, Special Rend, Recover
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Ribbon: Classic Ribbon


Pokemon Species: Suicune
Nickname: N/A
OT: WIN2011
ID No: 02211
Shiny: Yes
IV's: Flawless 6IV
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Pressure
Level: 100
Moves: Aqua Ring, Rest, Sleep Talk, Scald
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Ribbon: Classic Ribbon

DragonXmicro
13th July 2014, 10:46 PM
Thanks dewey. I don't know much about previous gen events. Here are some 6IV pokemons I have. Their stats, natures look fine to me, so I keep them.

Pokemon Species: Giratina
Nickname: N/A
OT: Joey
ID No: 42890
Shiny: Yes
EV's: None
IV's: Flawless 6IV
Nature: Modest
Characteristic:Capable of taking hits
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Shadow Force, Earthquake, Earth Power and Dragon Pulse
Level: 70
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball


Pokemon Species: Rayquaza (JPN, Nobunaga's Rayquaza)
Nickname: レックウザ
OT: ノブナガ
ID No: 03172
Shiny: Yes
IV's: Flawless 6IV
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Air Lock
Level: 100
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Ribbon: Classic Ribbon


Pokemon Species: Arceus
Nickname: N/A
OT: TRU
ID No: 11079
Shiny: No
IV's: Flawless 6IV
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Multitype
Level: 100
Moves: Calm Mind, Judgment, Special Rend, Recover
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Ribbon: Classic Ribbon


Pokemon Species: Suicune
Nickname: N/A
OT: WIN2011
ID No: 02211
Shiny: Yes
IV's: Flawless 6IV
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Pressure
Level: 100
Moves: Aqua Ring, Rest, Sleep Talk, Scald
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Ribbon: Classic Ribbon
They all seem clean to me. The Natures are all possible, and the characteristics match up with being 6iv

Miss Alexis
14th July 2014, 12:23 AM
Pokemon Species: Entei
Nickname: 앤테이
OT: 크라운시티
OT Gender: white
IDno: 12160
Shiny?:
EV's: none
IV's: random
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: A little quick tempered
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Flare Blitz, Howl, Extreme Speed, Crush Claw
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: 109/88/60/54/52/68
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: So earlier today I tried to trade a Korean Event Shiny Entei but it wouldnt let me? It wasnt in my party or anything and it seems totally legit

DragonXmicro
14th July 2014, 12:30 AM
Pokemon Species: Entei
Nickname: 앤테이
OT: 크라운시티
OT Gender: white
IDno: 12160
Shiny?:
EV's: none
IV's: random
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: A little quick tempered
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Flare Blitz, Howl, Extreme Speed, Crush Claw
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: 109/88/60/54/52/68
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: So earlier today I tried to trade a Korean Event Shiny Entei but it wouldnt let me? It wasnt in my party or anything and it seems totally legit

trade it in which fashion? GTS or Friends?

Matsuyamakun
14th July 2014, 12:50 AM
They all seem clean to me. The Natures are all possible, and the characteristics match up with being 6iv

Thank you DragonXmicro. I guess I will keep them forever.:)

Miss Alexis
14th July 2014, 1:40 AM
trade it in which fashion? GTS or Friends?

People who I exchange friendcodes with so friends yea

DragonXmicro
14th July 2014, 2:13 AM
People who I exchange friendcodes with so friends yea

then i am completely unsure of why you wouldn't be able to trade it

Tigers1980
14th July 2014, 7:21 AM
People who I exchange friendcodes with so friends yea

I had a similar scenario with a set of Japanese Crown Beasts. It turned out to be that when the Gen IV files had been converted to Gen V, they hadn't been done correctly. Thus they got binned immediately, files and pokemon.

Miss Alexis
14th July 2014, 7:38 AM
I had a similar scenario with a set of Japanese Crown Beasts. It turned out to be that when the Gen IV files had been converted to Gen V, they hadn't been done correctly. Thus they got binned immediately, files and pokemon.

Does that make the Pokemon I have corrupted or illegal?

varanus_komodoensis
14th July 2014, 8:28 AM
Pokemon Species: Entei
Nickname: 앤테이
OT: 크라운시티
OT Gender: white
IDno: 12160
Shiny?:
EV's: none
IV's: random
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: A little quick tempered
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Flare Blitz, Howl, Extreme Speed, Crush Claw
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: 109/88/60/54/52/68
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: So earlier today I tried to trade a Korean Event Shiny Entei but it wouldnt let me? It wasnt in my party or anything and it seems totally legit

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but according to Bulbapedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Entei_(Pok%C3%A9mon)) and Serebii's Event Dex (http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/244.shtml), there is no event Entei in a Cherish Ball that matches that description. However, that should not prevent you from trading it on PSS. I do believe this Entei is hacked pretty poorly.

Lt. BLEU™
14th July 2014, 8:45 AM
Pokemon Species: Entei
Nickname: 앤테이
OT: 크라운시티
OT Gender: white
IDno: 12160
Shiny?:
EV's: none
IV's: random
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: A little quick tempered
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Flare Blitz, Howl, Extreme Speed, Crush Claw
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: 109/88/60/54/52/68
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: So earlier today I tried to trade a Korean Event Shiny Entei but it wouldnt let me? It wasnt in my party or anything and it seems totally legit


Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but according to Bulbapedia (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Entei_(Pok%C3%A9mon)) and Serebii's Event Dex (http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/244.shtml), there is no event Entei in a Cherish Ball that matches that description. However, that should not prevent you from trading it on PSS. I do believe this Entei is hacked pretty poorly.

This! When people do not check correctly. It's a korean event and Bulba has info as well: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_Korean_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributi ons_in_Generation_IV#Crown_City_Entei Perfectly legal. Enjoy!

varanus_komodoensis
14th July 2014, 8:49 AM
This! When people do not check correctly. It's a korean event and Bulba has info as well: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_Korean_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributi ons_in_Generation_IV#Crown_City_Entei Perfectly legal. Enjoy!

Thanks for finding my mistake - I thought I searched for that ID number, but I guess I typed it in wrong or something. Anyway, that still doesn't explain why the OP can't trade it over PSS.

dewey911p
14th July 2014, 8:05 PM
Does that make the Pokemon I have corrupted or illegal?

If the pokemon was transferred incorrectly, which often happens as a result of using external hardware, then yes, the pokemon would be considered illegal. Usually an improper transfer screws up the data of the .pkm file. Alternatively, if the pokemon is still in gen 4, Korean pokemon could not be traded between gen 4 games other than korean games because the language wasn;t programmed in to any other game. This resulted in many people using external hardware to extract the .pkm file and transfer it over to gen 5 games where they could be freely traded. Using external hardware, though, often resulted in the person doing something wrong and an inappropriate transfer.

All of that aside, you should still be able to trade god awful hacks via FC. Hell, you can even trade bad eggs and glitchmons via FC. Are you sure you entered the FC in correctly? As long as you are not trying to trade the pokemon in gen 4, I can;t think of any reason why a FC trade wouldn't work.

2rsa
14th July 2014, 9:23 PM
I'd like to check these sorry if I'm not supposed to check pokemons on gen 6 games here ^^:

Pokemon Species: Reshiram
Nickname: Reshiram
OT: Toshiro
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male): Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 40444
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) None (I reseted them)
IV's: (if known) Don't know. Nothing crazy like all 0s or perfect 31s though.
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Strong Willed
Ability: Turboblaze
Moves: Dragon breath/Slash/Extrasensory/Fusion flare
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 50
Stats: 167-129-110-144-140-117
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: Has a bit exp, close to leveling up.
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Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: Lugia
OT: Grego
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 37165
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) Don't know
IV's: (if known) Don't know, Again nothing crazy or perfect.
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Sturdy body
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory/Rain dance/ Hydro pump/ Aero blast
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 45
Stats: 156-95-133-86-150-108
Location Caught: Johto
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra ball
Any other notes?: has a little exp
------------------------------------------------------
Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: Maike
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 45868
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) Don't know
IV's: (if known) again nothing crazy, nothing perfect.
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Loves to eat
Ability: Drought
Moves: Slash, Bulk up, EQ, Fire blast
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 46
Stats: 161-147-150-91-93-97
Location Caught: Honen
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra ball
Any other notes?: Had a bit exp and the Sinnoh champion Ribbon

BTW, Got them from the GTS.
Thanks in Advance ^^

DragonXmicro
14th July 2014, 9:26 PM
I'd like to check these sorry if I'm not supposed to check pokemons on gen 6 games here ^^:

Pokemon Species: Reshiram
Nickname: Reshiram
OT: Toshiro
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male): Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 40444
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) None (I reseted them)
IV's: (if known) Don't know. Nothing crazy like all 0s or perfect 31s though.
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Strong Willed
Ability: Turboblaze
Moves: Dragon breath/Slash/Extrasensory/Fusion flare
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 50
Stats: 167-129-110-144-140-117
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: Has a bit exp, close to leveling up.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: Lugia
OT: Grego
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 37165
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) Don't know
IV's: (if known) Don't know, Again nothing crazy or perfect.
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Sturdy body
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory/Rain dance/ Hydro pump/ Aero blast
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 45
Stats: 156-95-133-86-150-108
Location Caught: Johto
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra ball
Any other notes?: has a little exp
------------------------------------------------------
Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: Maike
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 45868
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) Don't know
IV's: (if known) again nothing crazy, nothing perfect.
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Loves to eat
Ability: Drought
Moves: Slash, Bulk up, EQ, Fire blast
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 46
Stats: 161-147-150-91-93-97
Location Caught: Honen
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra ball
Any other notes?: Had a bit exp and the Sinnoh champion Ribbon

BTW, Got them from the GTS.
Thanks in Advance ^^

They all look fine~

varanus_komodoensis
14th July 2014, 9:31 PM
I'd like to check these sorry if I'm not supposed to check pokemons on gen 6 games here ^^:

Pokemon Species: Reshiram
Nickname: Reshiram
OT: Toshiro
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male): Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 40444
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) None (I reseted them)
IV's: (if known) Don't know. Nothing crazy like all 0s or perfect 31s though.
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Strong Willed
Ability: Turboblaze
Moves: Dragon breath/Slash/Extrasensory/Fusion flare
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 50
Stats: 167-129-110-144-140-117
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: Has a bit exp, close to leveling up.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: Lugia
OT: Grego
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 37165
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) Don't know
IV's: (if known) Don't know, Again nothing crazy or perfect.
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Sturdy body
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory/Rain dance/ Hydro pump/ Aero blast
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 45
Stats: 156-95-133-86-150-108
Location Caught: Johto
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra ball
Any other notes?: has a little exp
------------------------------------------------------
Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: Maike
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Don't know (gen 6)
IDno: 45868
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) Don't know
IV's: (if known) again nothing crazy, nothing perfect.
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Loves to eat
Ability: Drought
Moves: Slash, Bulk up, EQ, Fire blast
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 46
Stats: 161-147-150-91-93-97
Location Caught: Honen
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra ball
Any other notes?: Had a bit exp and the Sinnoh champion Ribbon

BTW, Got them from the GTS.
Thanks in Advance ^^

These all look legal. They all appear to have been caught in-game in their respective versions. The only thing that's a little weird is that Groudon apparently only grew one level at the Sinnoh League, but I'm sure that's fine if it wasn't carrying the Lucky Egg and only had Exp Share or something.

Arbalest
15th July 2014, 1:03 AM
-snipped-Characteristics of Giratina and Suicune don't match the possible PIDs, they're both hacked.


/me pet Dewey911p

ShyOctopus
15th July 2014, 4:50 AM
Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: N/A
OT: Eclipz
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 06981
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: N/A
IV's: Flawless
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Psychic, Nasty Plot, Aura Sphere, Sludge Bomb
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Location Caught: Hoenn
Pokeball Caught In: Normal Pokeball
Any other notes?: I think I got this from someone on Serebii; I never noticed it had all the markings til today, and checked its IVs and sure enough, perfect 6.

Tigers1980
15th July 2014, 7:28 AM
Does that make the Pokemon I have corrupted or illegal?

Dewey has answered your question perfectly especially about Gen IV Korean Events being transferred to Gen V (a no no), but without P***CH**K its not possible to get a more accurate reason for why it was failing. In my case it was as explained it previous post, but mine were Japanese and not Korean.

Shine
15th July 2014, 12:50 PM
Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: N/A
OT: Eclipz
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 06981
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: N/A
IV's: Flawless
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Psychic, Nasty Plot, Aura Sphere, Sludge Bomb
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Location Caught: Hoenn
Pokeball Caught In: Normal Pokeball
Any other notes?: I think I got this from someone on Serebii; I never noticed it had all the markings til today, and checked its IVs and sure enough, perfect 6.

Personally I think it's hacked, for various reasons.

varanus_komodoensis
15th July 2014, 6:44 PM
Personally I think it's hacked, for various reasons.

Why do you think it's hacked? My gut tells me that this Mew is hacked, but based on the parameters given, there isn't anything wrong with it. Modest/flawless IVs are legal in Gen III. The fact that it's caught in a normal Poke Ball is a little strange, but possible. The only think I wasn't sure about was if the characteristic matches up with the IVs and nature.

Toujours_Caps
15th July 2014, 10:16 PM
Hello. Is anyone familiar with these OT/ID from region within ( )?

Iristle/40148 (Unova)
Jacob/47985 (Unova)
Mion/00303 (Unova)
Demeter/65535 (Unova)
Rika/28746 (Unova)
Tono/06639 (Unova) - also トノ/06639 which means RNGed or hacked
Alex/53548 (Sin oh)

I have some Dittos with these OT/ID and want to know if these are known hackers. I got the Dittos from trades on gamefaq so I don't know the original owner.

Notes: I know, I don't post LV./Ability/sprite those stuff, but I'm sure these Dittos looks pretty legal and the possibility is that they were RNGed or hacked by a person with knowledge.

dewey911p
15th July 2014, 11:11 PM
Hello. Is anyone familiar with these OT/ID from region within ( )?

Iristle/40148 (Unova)
Demeter/65535 (Unova)


Demeter 65535/00000 is one of my many OTs. That is my main OT for Black 2, which means the Ditto should be from the Hidden Grotto. I RNGed several Dittos under that OT to include all useful natures and hidden power types.

Iristle is an RNGer iirc. The name is familiar I just can't recall from where. I'm pretty sure she is an RNGer.

The others, I don't recognize so I have no clue.

Toujours_Caps
16th July 2014, 12:05 AM
Thanks for your response. Didn't imagine I would get to talk with the original owner, I'm very glad since that means I'm not going to let go of those Dittos.
Do you still have your parameter for RNGing?

Yes those all has HA, Spanish(is it for MMing?), and have 2 different HP spread.
One is Modest HP Ice, and the other is Naughty HP fighting.


Pretty cool Dittos by the way!

dewey911p
16th July 2014, 12:16 AM
Thanks for your response. Didn't imagine I would get to talk with the original owner, I'm very glad since that means I'm not going to let go of those Dittos.
Do you still have your parameter for RNGing?

Yes those all has HA, Spanish(is it for MMing?), and have 2 different HP spread.
One is Modest HP Ice, and the other is Naughty HP fighting.


Pretty cool Dittos by the way!

Pretty sure I still have my parameters saved in RNGr.

But my games are all English. If the Ditto is Spanish it means someone hacked one of my pokemon (since my pokemon are all public on pokecheck, this happens a lot, unfortunately :/). I can't say what language games Iristle uses, but mine are all English.

Toujours_Caps
16th July 2014, 1:17 AM
ugh. this is what I don't like hacking. some of people use other people's pokemon to start with. I would feel horrible if someone use mine as a tool for hack ._.

I wouldn't have cared if it's Spanish nor English, as I'm Japanese...
I'm finally deciding to delete other Dittos too. I'd rather find something I'm guaranteed legit by RNGers :0

Thanks for your help :3

Trevenant
16th July 2014, 10:44 AM
Personally I think it's hacked, for various reasons.This is kind of a pointless post without even listing any of the reasons. Nothing stands out as hacked about it. The Poke Ball doesn't matter, anyone RNGing in Gen 3 is (hopefully) on an emulator and using save states*, so any Pokemon can and will be caught in any Ball.

Seems legal, nothing stands out. Another thing to note is that it isn't shiny, meaning its value for hacking is pretty small considering they could've just hacked the Wonder Card one or something, which at least comes in a special ball.

* - Some of the good seeds in Gen 3 can take many, many days to reach. Doing those on a console is VERY impractical, and with there being zero difference between an emulator-bred Pokemon and not...

Toujours_Caps
16th July 2014, 1:04 PM
BTW, there's time lag between 3 gen events and some 4 gen events and RNG discover.

I'm not saying that the Mew is guaranteed of hack, but it's something I'd difinitely not trade for, unless I'm trading the original RNGer.

Trevenant
16th July 2014, 3:06 PM
BTW, there's time lag between 3 gen events and some 4 gen events and RNG discover.

I'm not saying that the Mew is guaranteed of hack, but it's something I'd difinitely not trade for, unless I'm trading the original RNGer.Well, yes, but that doesn't mean that it's impossible to have the event item and be capable of RNGing or something...

Although having the event item doesn't mean much, whether it was obtained via Mystery Gift or hacked in it doesn't matter.
I forgot to ask something, though, and it's important. Is that Mew flagged as Japanese?

Toujours_Caps
16th July 2014, 4:04 PM
Yes, I clearly said it's not guaranteed of hack.
I'm refering to the high possibility of being a hack.


Well, wouldn't it be illegal if it's obtained via hack codes. It means much to people who does not like hacking.

Toujours_Caps
16th July 2014, 4:13 PM
Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: N/A
OT: Eclipz
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 06981
Shiny?: Yes

I just read the original post by ShyOctopus. The Mew is actually a hack.

This is supposed to be the Japanese old sea map event because it's shiny, OT/ID isn't event one.

The hacker apparently is not Japanese and missed to fake its legality. The OT can't have this name in Japanese games.

Trevenant
16th July 2014, 4:13 PM
If the Pokemon was obtained via cheat codes, yes.
If you had access to the map housing the Pokemon, no. Nothing relating to the Old Sea Chart or how it was obtained appears whatsoever in the Mew's data despite what some overly-obsessed phobics would love to claim.

Besides, you could probably get the Old Sea Chart via some extreme glitching nowadays...

Just to clarify, though, it WAS a Japanese-only item, right?

EDIT: Didn't see he actually DID say it was Shiny.

This is supposed to be the Japanese old sea map event because it's shiny, OT/ID isn't event one.Mew was obtained via an in-game event, you caught the Mew though. So the ID isn't the issue.

Definitely hacked, then. As said, that OT can't happen in Japanese Gen 3 games, it's one letter too long.

ShyOctopus
16th July 2014, 4:21 PM
Well, yes, but that doesn't mean that it's impossible to have the event item and be capable of RNGing or something...

Although having the event item doesn't mean much, whether it was obtained via Mystery Gift or hacked in it doesn't matter.
I forgot to ask something, though, and it's important. Is that Mew flagged as Japanese?

It's flagged as German, and also it is shiny.

Edit: Op, I was making breakfast and you all figured it out. Thank you, at least now I know ahahahaha I probably won't be keeping this Mew for very long.

Trevenant
16th July 2014, 11:36 PM
Getting this hack-checked before I give it to someone here. I've had it for years. In the past when I got it someone said it was from a known RNGer. So that's cool.

Name: Mew
Trainer: Zodim (male)
ID: 32514
SID: 59699
Ball: Premier Ball
Ability: Synchronize
Nature: Timid
IVs: All 31
Country: Japan
Moves: Night Shade, Seismic Toss, Softboiled, ThunderPunch

The English text is legitimate - the reason it looks odd is because the Japanese games use a different English font than ours.

Floette
17th July 2014, 2:14 AM
I just got this in a trade here in Pokemon Y. I'm hoping its just RNG'd as opposed to hacked :S

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: メタモン
OT: Ray
IDno: 41380
Shiny?: YES
EV's: Pretty evenly spread between Sp.Def / Speed / Def / HP it looks like, judging from the triangle graph on Super Training
IV's: All 31
Nature: Calm
Characteristic: Capable of Taking Hits
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Current Level: 86
Stats: 230 HP / 107 Atk / 140 Def / 117 Sp. Atk / 147 Sp. Def / 142 Speed
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg?: Unknown
Pokeball Caught In: Quick Ball
Any other notes?: Has the "previously contracted Pokerus" symbol

Lt. BLEU™
17th July 2014, 2:21 AM
I just got this in a trade here in Pokemon Y. I'm hoping its just RNG'd as opposed to hacked :S

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: メタモン
OT: Ray
IDno: 41380
Shiny?: YES
EV's: Pretty evenly spread between Sp.Def / Speed / Def / HP it looks like, judging from the triangle graph on Super Training
IV's: All 31
Nature: Calm
Characteristic: Capable of Taking Hits
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Current Level: 86
Stats: 230 HP / 107 Atk / 140 Def / 117 Sp. Atk / 147 Sp. Def / 142 Speed
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg?: Unknown
Pokeball Caught In: Quick Ball
Any other notes?: Has the "previously contracted Pokerus" symbol

Looks good to me...I guess Dewey, you're needed here.

dewey911p
17th July 2014, 3:24 AM
Getting this hack-checked before I give it to someone here. I've had it for years. In the past when I got it someone said it was from a known RNGer. So that's cool.

Name: Mew
Trainer: Zodim (male)
ID: 32514
SID: 59699
Ball: Premier Ball
Ability: Synchronize
Nature: Timid
IVs: All 31
Country: Japan
Moves: Night Shade, Seismic Toss, Softboiled, ThunderPunch

The English text is legitimate - the reason it looks odd is because the Japanese games use a different English font than ours.

Zodim is a known RNGer from Smogon. It's from an emu (obviously) but it's fine.


I just got this in a trade here in Pokemon Y. I'm hoping its just RNG'd as opposed to hacked :S

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: メタモン
OT: Ray
IDno: 41380
Shiny?: YES
EV's: Pretty evenly spread between Sp.Def / Speed / Def / HP it looks like, judging from the triangle graph on Super Training
IV's: All 31
Nature: Calm
Characteristic: Capable of Taking Hits
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Current Level: 86
Stats: 230 HP / 107 Atk / 140 Def / 117 Sp. Atk / 147 Sp. Def / 142 Speed
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg?: Unknown
Pokeball Caught In: Quick Ball
Any other notes?: Has the "previously contracted Pokerus" symbol

Hard to say. OT Ray is a known hacker OT, but it's also a common OT. It's a valid spread, thought the EVs are weird, that doesn't prove anything one way or the other. It looks fine on the surface, but until Pokecheck is back up, I can;t say for certain which OT Ray is a hacker :/

Toujours_Caps
17th July 2014, 4:46 AM
Zodim is a known RNGer from Smogon. It's from an emu (obviously) but it's fine.



Hard to say. OT Ray is a known hacker OT, but it's also a common OT. It's a valid spread, thought the EVs are weird, that doesn't prove anything one way or the other. It looks fine on the surface, but until Pokecheck is back up, I can;t say for certain which OT Ray is a hacker :/

Doesn't some cheat apps give even EV spread unless the hacker set specifically? It's not as suspicious as Ash/01337 or PCApp thing, but one thing to consider...

Also, is it Japanese?

Floette
17th July 2014, 4:58 AM
Doesn't some cheat apps give even EV spread unless the hacker set specifically? It's not as suspicious as Ash/01337 or PCApp thing, but one thing to consider...

Also, is it Japanese?

Yes it is Japanese :( I guess that makes it all the more suspicious? The OT name Ray isn't in the Japanese "English" font. Hmm. Considering just releasing it before it causes problems in my game. Disappointing, because I wanted to breed shinies with it via MM :p Oh well, thank you.

varanus_komodoensis
17th July 2014, 5:02 AM
Yes it is Japanese :( I guess that makes it all the more suspicious? The OT name Ray isn't in the Japanese "English" font. Hmm. Considering just releasing it before it causes problems in my game. Disappointing, because I wanted to breed shinies with it via MM :p Oh well, thank you.

Hacked Pokemon won't cause problems in your game. But if the Ditto has the Japanese tag and the name is in Japanese, the OT can't be English unless it's that weird blocky font. That's a sure sign of a hack in the case of Ditto.

Floette
17th July 2014, 5:06 AM
Hacked Pokemon won't cause problems in your game. But if the Ditto has the Japanese tag and the name is in Japanese, the OT can't be English unless it's that weird blocky font. That's a sure sign of a hack in the case of Ditto.

Ah, as I feared. I'm glad I know for sure now. Thank you very much!

PokemonMegaBeast
17th July 2014, 2:20 PM
Yeah I have had many Jap dittos with English Names. Bit i must ask what is the big block font is that a hack or what?

varanus_komodoensis
17th July 2014, 7:07 PM
Yeah I have had many Jap dittos with English Names. Bit i must ask what is the big block font is that a hack or what?

The blocky font is the English font for Japanese players if they want to make their name or their Pokemon's nickname English. Japanese players have an English font option because a large portion of Japan speaks English. The blocky font is actually a GOOD thing if your Pokemon has a Japanese tag - it's a sign that it's legal. If you have a Japanese Pokemon with normal English text for the OT, it's a sure sign of a hack.

giratina25
17th July 2014, 8:57 PM
I got this off of Wonder Trade today and wanted to check if it's hacked:

Pokemon Species: Cyndaquil
Nickname: none
OT: MARK
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Doesn't show (I don't see it for my own pkmn either)
IDno: 06965
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known) none
IV's: (if known) Relatively superior, perfect HP, Attack, and Speed
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Tackle, Leer
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/6/5/6/5/6
Location Caught: Hatched in Lumiose City
Egg?: yes
Pokeball Caught In: regular
Any other notes?: Nope!

Also, first post! Yay! :)

varanus_komodoensis
17th July 2014, 9:07 PM
I got this off of Wonder Trade today and wanted to check if it's hacked:

Pokemon Species: Cyndaquil
Nickname: none
OT: MARK
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Doesn't show (I don't see it for my own pkmn either)
IDno: 06965
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known) none
IV's: (if known) Relatively superior, perfect HP, Attack, and Speed
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Tackle, Leer
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/6/5/6/5/6
Location Caught: Hatched in Lumiose City
Egg?: yes
Pokeball Caught In: regular
Any other notes?: Nope!

Also, first post! Yay! :)

This Cyndaquil looks completely legal to me. Someone was hatching for a flawless Cyndaquil and this is a breeding reject. Welcome to the forums!

giratina25
17th July 2014, 10:24 PM
That's nice. Maybe the Shiny Charm isn't so far away after all...

By the way, what does it mean to RNG something? I've looked throughout this forum and that's the one thing I don't understand...

varanus_komodoensis
17th July 2014, 10:49 PM
That's nice. Maybe the Shiny Charm isn't so far away after all...

By the way, what does it mean to RNG something? I've looked throughout this forum and that's the one thing I don't understand...

RNG stands for "Random Number Generation". As far as I know, no one has managed to work out how to RNG yet on X and Y, but it was very commonly done in Generations III-V. I am not an RNGer, so someone like dewey can explain this in more detail, but the very, very basic explanation is that how your Pokemon's IVs, nature, and shininess are determined when you encounter a Pokemon (stationary, Egg, or wild) aren't actually random. They are determined by the date and time on the DS, as well as the amount of time that passes between starting the game and pressing "Continue". By using a computer program that figures out what date, time, and number of seconds you need to wait before pressing continue, you can figure out what "seed" you need to hit to get a shiny flawless Pokemon with a certain nature. Then you manipulate the DS's date and time to get that seed.

That's an EXTREMELY simplified explanation. If you want more information on how to do it, you can look up guides for RNG manipulation on the game that you want to manipulate.

Toujours_Caps
18th July 2014, 12:10 AM
BTW, this is just for heads up since there were several Dittos that have either English OT or NN tho they are Japanese.

It's not completely impossible to have English name in English font though it's Japanese, vice versa. This can happen in 4 gen, however the method takes more effort, and since there's so much hacked pokemons that its NN/OT don't match its nationality it is safe to assume those are hacked, unless you get those from the original RNGer.

Note: Also, it's possible to RNG pokemons in earlier gens and get them NNable in XY under some conditions.

Symphony
18th July 2014, 12:46 AM
Hello! I just got some Shiny Pokemon from trading and I want to make sure they aren't hacked!

Tyrantitar-Male-Level 100 (No nickname)
Nature: Rash
OT: Gold
ID No.: 25746
Originally from Johto

Colossinge-Female-Level 100 (In French, really a Primape)
Nature: Serious
OT: AAAAAAAA
ID No.: 54712
Originally from Unova.

Thanks for you time~ ^^

DragonXmicro
18th July 2014, 1:26 AM
Hello! I just got some Shiny Pokemon from trading and I want to make sure they aren't hacked!

Tyrantitar-Male-Level 100 (No nickname)
Nature: Rash
OT: Gold
ID No.: 25746
Originally from Johto

Colossinge-Female-Level 100 (In French, really a Primape)
Nature: Serious
OT: AAAAAAAA
ID No.: 54712
Originally from Unova.

Thanks for you time~ ^^

That's not quite enough information to determine much of anything. there should be a form in the first post and it would be helpful to fill the full thing out for both pokemon if you would, please.

dragontamer44722
18th July 2014, 1:43 AM
Pokemon Species:Deoxys
Nickname:none
OT:Plasma
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno:05083
Shiny?:no
EV's: (if known)very few in every spot
IV's: (if known)not good, on;y decent
Nature:Mild
Characteristic:Plenty of Siestas
Ability:Pressure
Moves:Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse, Recover, Psycho Boost
Level Caught at:n/a
Current Level:100
Stats: Atk:328, Df: 113, SpAtk: 360, SpDf:112, Spd:333, Hp:241
Location Caught:says it came from Unova
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
Any other notes?:My only concern is that it is in dusk ball and not a Cherish ball, since it appears to be an event. Any help is appreciated :)

DragonXmicro
18th July 2014, 1:45 AM
Pokemon Species:Deoxys
Nickname:none
OT:Plasma
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno:05083
Shiny?:no
EV's: (if known)very few in every spot
IV's: (if known)not good, on;y decent
Nature:Mild
Characteristic:Plenty of Siestas
Ability:Pressure
Moves:Nasty Plot, Dark Pulse, Recover, Psycho Boost
Level Caught at:n/a
Current Level:100
Stats: Atk:328, Df: 113, SpAtk: 360, SpDf:112, Spd:333, Hp:241
Location Caught:says it came from Unova
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
Any other notes?:My only concern is that it is in dusk ball and not a Cherish ball, since it appears to be an event. Any help is appreciated :)
Fear not, plasma deoxys comes in a dusk ball normally! your deoxys doesn't raise any red flags in my knowledge~

dragontamer44722
18th July 2014, 2:03 AM
Fear not, plasma deoxys comes in a dusk ball normally! your deoxys doesn't raise any red flags in my knowledge~

Oh goody! Thanks :)

Trevenant
18th July 2014, 4:16 AM
BTW, this is just for heads up since there were several Dittos that have either English OT or NN tho they are Japanese.

It's not completely impossible to have English name in English font though it's Japanese, vice versa. This can happen in 4 gen, however the method takes more effort, and since there's so much hacked pokemons that its NN/OT don't match its nationality it is safe to assume those are hacked, unless you get those from the original RNGer.

Note: Also, it's possible to RNG pokemons in earlier gens and get them NNable in XY under some conditions.Are you sure?

I've inquired with experienced hack checkers before and I was outright told you can't rename a Pokemon in a different generation even if you RNGed/cheated your OT/ID/SID to match.

Toujours_Caps
18th July 2014, 8:17 AM
Well, it's not me that tried it so I can't guarantee, however this is the website which tested the NN change with BW (1.2) --> XY.

http://s.ameblo.jp/edama-memo-0923/entry-11847817424.html

Yes it's Japanese, sorry about that but this is where I got the information.

The RNGers tell you that if you have same OT/ID/SID for pokemons from BW (1.2) we can change the NN in XY regardless of the nationality. (The Japanese/Korean alphabets will be different from the one with other languages)

-Illusionist
18th July 2014, 12:57 PM
So, I got a shiny Thundurus Therian off the GTS that, despite looking completely legit at a glance, possesses some dubious traits I'd like to hear further opinions on. This is how it is like (I'll follow the pattern suggested in the first post):

Pokémon Species: Thundurus (T)
Nickname: none; its name is "Fulguris" though, since it's french (FR Tag)
OT: Oli
OT Gender: unknown
ID No.: 31965
Shiny: Yes
EV's: randomly spread
IV's: "decent potential"; best stat: Sp.Atk, "good"; 0 IVs Sp.Def
Nature: Sassy
Characteristic: Very Finicky
Ability: Volt Absorb
Moves: Thunder | Dark Pulse | Hammer Arm | Thrash
Level caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 275 | 222 | 159 | 319 | 181 | 200
Location (caught): "traveled...from Unova"
Pokéball (caught in): Ultra Ball

Other notes: well, it has little to no Effort Values, and that sounds tremendously unnatural for a LV. 100 pokémon (meaning that someone must have used a reset bag on it, or loads of berries; maybe it was leveled up through rare candies).
As far as I am concerned, this is unlikely to be product of RNG mechanics (as proven by its shaky stats).
Ball-Ability/Potential-Characteristic do match, so at least it is not a clear hack.
My question is: would it be possible to force a shiny encounter with Thundurus on White/Black via Action Replay and would the generated 'mon be able to pass PokéTranser checking? Because that's what I fear.
I am looking forward to read your thoughts, so I decide whether to keep it or not. Thanks in advance

Tsukuyomi56
18th July 2014, 2:13 PM
So, I got a shiny Thundurus Therian off the GTS that, despite looking completely legit at a glance, possesses some dubious traits I'd like to hear further opinions on. This is how it is like (I'll follow the pattern suggested in the first post):

Pokémon Species: Thundurus (T)
Nickname: none; its name is "Fulguris" though, since it's french (FR Tag)
OT: Oli
OT Gender: unknown
ID No.: 31965
Shiny: Yes
EV's: randomly spread
IV's: "decent potential"; best stat: Sp.Atk, "good"; 0 IVs Sp.Def
Nature: Sassy
Characteristic: Very Finicky
Ability: Volt Absorb
Moves: Thunder | Dark Pulse | Hammer Arm | Thrash
Level caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 275 | 222 | 159 | 319 | 181 | 200
Location (caught): "traveled...from Unova"
Pokéball (caught in): Ultra Ball


Nothing seems wrong with it, so I think it is legit.

varanus_komodoensis
18th July 2014, 4:25 PM
So, I got a shiny Thundurus Therian off the GTS that, despite looking completely legit at a glance, possesses some dubious traits I'd like to hear further opinions on. This is how it is like (I'll follow the pattern suggested in the first post):

Pokémon Species: Thundurus (T)
Nickname: none; its name is "Fulguris" though, since it's french (FR Tag)
OT: Oli
OT Gender: unknown
ID No.: 31965
Shiny: Yes
EV's: randomly spread
IV's: "decent potential"; best stat: Sp.Atk, "good"; 0 IVs Sp.Def
Nature: Sassy
Characteristic: Very Finicky
Ability: Volt Absorb
Moves: Thunder | Dark Pulse | Hammer Arm | Thrash
Level caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 275 | 222 | 159 | 319 | 181 | 200
Location (caught): "traveled...from Unova"
Pokéball (caught in): Ultra Ball

Other notes: well, it has little to no Effort Values, and that sounds tremendously unnatural for a LV. 100 pokémon (meaning that someone must have used a reset bag on it, or loads of berries; maybe it was leveled up through rare candies).
As far as I am concerned, this is unlikely to be product of RNG mechanics (as proven by its shaky stats).
Ball-Ability/Potential-Characteristic do match, so at least it is not a clear hack.
My question is: would it be possible to force a shiny encounter with Thundurus on White/Black via Action Replay and would the generated 'mon be able to pass PokéTranser checking? Because that's what I fear.
I am looking forward to read your thoughts, so I decide whether to keep it or not. Thanks in advance

What worries me about this when I look at it is that the moves that it has are the last four moves that Thundurus learns, in the order that he learns them. Thundurus is encountered at level 40, not level 100. This is by no means an indication of a hack (maybe the OT wanted him to know those?), but it's always very suspicious.

Symphony
18th July 2014, 6:29 PM
Whoops, sorry! Let's try this again with the form:

Pokemon Species: Tyranitar
Nickname: -
OT: Gold
OT Gender: I don't know
IDno: 25746
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not Sure. The guru says 'Decent Potential' and Fantastic Attack stat
IV's: Not Sure
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Proud of its power
Ability: Sand Stream
Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Ice Beam, and Thunder Bolt
Level Caught at: Doesn't say (Says it traveled from Johto)
Current Level: 100
Stats: Attack: 303, Defense: 240, Sp. Atk: 231, Sp. Def: 211, and Speed: 129
Location Caught: Johto
Egg?: Not sure
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: It's a Male


Pokemon Species: Primape
Nickname:Colossinge (It's French)
OT: AAAAAAA
OT Gender: I don't know >.<;
IDno: 54712
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not Sure. Guru says 'Superior Potential' and Fantastic Speed stat.
IV's: Not Sure
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Vital Spirit
Moves: Thrash, Cross Chop, Poison Jab, and U-Turn
Level Caught at: Not sure
Current Level: 100
Stats: Attack: 246, Defense: 158, Sp. Atk: 161, Sp. Def: 183, Speed: 246
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: Not sure
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It's a Female

Hope this is better ^^

Lt. BLEU™
18th July 2014, 6:53 PM
Whoops, sorry! Let's try this again with the form:

Pokemon Species: Tyranitar
Nickname: -
OT: Gold
OT Gender: I don't know
IDno: 25746
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not Sure. The guru says 'Decent Potential' and Fantastic Attack stat
IV's: Not Sure
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Proud of its power
Ability: Sand Stream
Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Ice Beam, and Thunder Bolt
Level Caught at: Doesn't say (Says it traveled from Johto)
Current Level: 100
Stats: Attack: 303, Defense: 240, Sp. Atk: 231, Sp. Def: 211, and Speed: 129
Location Caught: Johto
Egg?: Not sure
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: It's a Male


Pokemon Species: Primape
Nickname:Colossinge (It's French)
OT: AAAAAAA
OT Gender: I don't know >.<;
IDno: 54712
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not Sure. Guru says 'Superior Potential' and Fantastic Speed stat.
IV's: Not Sure
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Vital Spirit
Moves: Thrash, Cross Chop, Poison Jab, and U-Turn
Level Caught at: Not sure
Current Level: 100
Stats: Attack: 246, Defense: 158, Sp. Atk: 161, Sp. Def: 183, Speed: 246
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: Not sure
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It's a Female

Hope this is better ^^

Both look legal on the surface to me. Had Pokecheck been on, better check was possible.

Symphony
18th July 2014, 6:56 PM
Both look legal on the surface to me. Had Pokecheck been on, better check was possible.

Okay! Thank you for checking :D

-Illusionist
18th July 2014, 7:05 PM
to varanus_komodoensis: thanks for the hint. The thing is getting more and more suspicious; I guess I'm gonna trade it over.
Any other opinion will still be appreciated though

WishIhadaManafi5
20th July 2014, 6:30 AM
Just got a Japanese Shiny Eevee. It's nature is rather suspicious though, Modest... and it has Pokérus. I think it was trained up on purpose and might be a hack.

Pokemon Species: Eevee
Nickname: Eevee in Japanese
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: I don't know
IDno: 07890 (this seems a little suspicious too)
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Outstanding potential, HP, Defense, Sp. Def, can't be beat.
IV's: HP: 31, Atk: 30, Def: 31, Sp.Atk: 31, Speed: 31
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Anticipation
Moves: Bite, Refresh, Covet, Take Down
Level Caught at: Doesn't say (Says it traveled across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region)
Current Level: 25
Stats: Attack: 30, Defense: 37, Sp. Atk: 55, Sp. Def: 45 and Speed: 40
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: I think so
Pokeball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: Outstanding potential, HP, Defense, Sp. Def, can't be beat.

Just checked... I was right. Something was off. The Special Attack is way too high.

Eevee Lv.25 does not compute!
Sp.Attack (55) should be 29 to 38.
The Effort Points or Nature may be inaccurate.

Not sure if Pokérus can affect it that much... but if not, I'd say someone hacked it so it would have sky high special attack.

varanus_komodoensis
20th July 2014, 6:46 AM
Just got a Japanese Shiny Eevee. It's nature is rather suspicious though, Modest... and it has Pokérus. I think it was trained up on purpose and might be a hack.

Pokemon Species: Eevee
Nickname: Eevee in Japanese
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: I don't know
IDno: 07890 (this seems a little suspicious too)
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Outstanding potential, HP, Defense, Sp. Def, can't be beat.
IV's: HP: 31, Atk: 30, Def: 31, Sp.Atk: 31, Speed: 31
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Anticipation
Moves: Bite, Refresh, Covet, Take Down
Level Caught at: Doesn't say (Says it traveled across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region)
Current Level: 25
Stats: Attack: 30, Defense: 37, Sp. Atk: 55, Sp. Def: 45 and Speed: 40
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: I think so
Pokeball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: Outstanding potential, HP, Defense, Sp. Def, can't be beat.

Just checked... I was right. Something was off. The Special Attack is way too high.

Eevee Lv.25 does not compute!
Sp.Attack (55) should be 29 to 38.
The Effort Points or Nature may be inaccurate.

Not sure if Pokérus can affect it that much... but if not, I'd say someone hacked it so it would have sky high special attack.

There's nothing wrong with this Eevee's stats. It's Modest, 31 IVs in SpAtk, with 250 EVs, which is perfectly legal. Nothing about this Eevee looks illegal, but I'm always suspicious of flawless shinies from Gen V just by default. You won't be able to fully check it until PokeCheck is back up, but I don't see anything wrong with it at this point.

WishIhadaManafi5
20th July 2014, 6:55 AM
There's nothing wrong with this Eevee's stats. It's Modest, 31 IVs in SpAtk, with 250 EVs, which is perfectly legal. Nothing about this Eevee looks illegal, but I'm always suspicious of flawless shinies from Gen V just by default. You won't be able to fully check it until PokeCheck is back up, but I don't see anything wrong with it at this point.

Thanks.

I hope it might be legit.

On a side note, can someone build up a stat that much that it would be out side of the normal range, due to the effects of Pokérus? That's what stood out to me the most.

varanus_komodoensis
20th July 2014, 7:14 AM
Thanks.

I hope it might be legit.

On a side note, can someone build up a stat that much that it would be out side of the normal range, due to the effects of Pokérus? That's what stood out to me the most.

Your Eevee's SpAtk is not outside the normal range - the highest SpAtk that an Eevee can have at level 25 is 56. Someone EV trained it from level 1 with 250 EVs in Special Attack. What Pokerus does is it gives you double the amount of EVs after a battle than you would normally get. It cannot boost a Pokemon's stats higher than they would normally go. Pokerus's only purpose is to help in EV training.

That said, the only way to boost a Pokemon's stats higher than they are allowed to go is through hacking with a 3rd party hacking device.

Trevenant
20th July 2014, 3:10 PM
Do you mean 252 or 248? 250 is the same as 248.

QuoteMissy
20th July 2014, 8:48 PM
Just got a Japanese Shiny Eevee. It's nature is rather suspicious though, Modest... and it has Pokérus. I think it was trained up on purpose and might be a hack.

Pokemon Species: Eevee
Nickname: Eevee in Japanese
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: I don't know
IDno: 07890 (this seems a little suspicious too)
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Outstanding potential, HP, Defense, Sp. Def, can't be beat.
IV's: HP: 31, Atk: 30, Def: 31, Sp.Atk: 31, Speed: 31
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Anticipation
Moves: Bite, Refresh, Covet, Take Down
Level Caught at: Doesn't say (Says it traveled across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region)
Current Level: 25
Stats: Attack: 30, Defense: 37, Sp. Atk: 55, Sp. Def: 45 and Speed: 40
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: I think so
Pokeball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: Outstanding potential, HP, Defense, Sp. Def, can't be beat.

Just checked... I was right. Something was off. The Special Attack is way too high.

Eevee Lv.25 does not compute!
Sp.Attack (55) should be 29 to 38.
The Effort Points or Nature may be inaccurate.

Not sure if Pokérus can affect it that much... but if not, I'd say someone hacked it so it would have sky high special attack.

The judge does not tell it's EVs you need to clear out it's EVs with a reset bag or EV-reducing berries to accurately determine IVs. But according to the judge from what you posted Sp.Atk and Speed aren't 31, he would've mentioned them alongside HP, Def, and Sp.Def if they were 31.

tsugaru
22nd July 2014, 7:39 AM
I just got this Lugia off GTS, wanted to know if it was hacked or not.

Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: no nickname
OT: Heath
OT Gender: can't tell
IDno: 32296
Shiny?: yes
EV's: spread evenly all around
IV's: Perfect/good ivs in defense and sp. defense i think
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Aeroblast, Recover, Ancient Power, Hydro Pump
Level Caught at: can't tell (only says it Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region)
Current Level: 74
Stats: 251/138/239/157/235/169
Location Caught: Johto?
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Love Ball
Any other notes?: Has Pokerus, has some exp + evs so I'm guessing it's been leveled up a bit

ZiR
22nd July 2014, 4:36 PM
So! I have this Genesect:

Pokemon Species: Genesect
Nickname: Genesect
OT: えいがかん
OT Gender: can't define
IDno: 07133
Shiny?: yes
EV's: zero
IV's: 31 all around
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Download
Moves: Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Flash Cannon, Techno Blast
Level Caught at: ???? (A fateful encounter seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region)
Current Level: 100
Stats: 283/276/203/276/226/257
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes: Ribbons added - Kalos Champion and Wishing Ribbon and JPN flag

So what is REALLY concerning-me about this pokemon is the Nickname written in English language but the flag is japanese. I do know in 6th gen, if you download a foreign pokemon like a japanese event Darkrai using an English cartridge, the pokemon WILL have english name and flag, but the OT will remain like the japanese name, but I don't know how that works in 4-5th gen. For me it doesn't looks correct, but that's just a guessing, I am looking for an accurate point of view.

varanus_komodoensis
22nd July 2014, 6:51 PM
I just got this Lugia off GTS, wanted to know if it was hacked or not.

Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: no nickname
OT: Heath
OT Gender: can't tell
IDno: 32296
Shiny?: yes
EV's: spread evenly all around
IV's: Perfect/good ivs in defense and sp. defense i think
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Aeroblast, Recover, Ancient Power, Hydro Pump
Level Caught at: can't tell (only says it Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region)
Current Level: 74
Stats: 251/138/239/157/235/169
Location Caught: Johto?
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Love Ball
Any other notes?: Has Pokerus, has some exp + evs so I'm guessing it's been leveled up a bit

This Lugia looks legal to me, but I'd get a second opinion on it.


So! I have this Genesect:

Pokemon Species: Genesect
Nickname: Genesect
OT: えいがかん
OT Gender: can't define
IDno: 07133
Shiny?: yes
EV's: zero
IV's: 31 all around
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Download
Moves: Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Flash Cannon, Techno Blast
Level Caught at: ???? (A fateful encounter seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region)
Current Level: 100
Stats: 283/276/203/276/226/257
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes: Ribbons added - Kalos Champion and Wishing Ribbon and JPN flag

So what is REALLY concerning-me about this pokemon is the Nickname written in English language but the flag is japanese. I do know in 6th gen, if you download a foreign pokemon like a japanese event Darkrai using an English cartridge, the pokemon WILL have english name and flag, but the OT will remain like the japanese name, but I don't know how that works in 4-5th gen. For me it doesn't looks correct, but that's just a guessing, I am looking for an accurate point of view.

You're going to need to be more specific here. When you go to your Genesect's Summary screen, on the TOP screen of the 3DS, there is a line that says "Name". That line will say "Gensect" in English. On the BOTTOM screen, above where it says "Lv. 100", you will see the Pokemon's name. This name should be in Japanese. The OT should also be Japanese. You didn't put who the OT is.

Or, if it makes it easier, when you send the Pokemon out in battle, does it use the English or Japanese name? If it uses the Japanese name, then it's legal. If it uses the English name, then it's hacked.

giratina25
22nd July 2014, 10:23 PM
So! I have this Genesect:

Pokemon Species: Genesect
Nickname: Genesect
OT: えいがかん
OT Gender: can't define
IDno: 07133
Shiny?: yes
EV's: zero
IV's: 31 all around
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Download
Moves: Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Flash Cannon, Techno Blast
Level Caught at: ???? (A fateful encounter seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region)
Current Level: 100
Stats: 283/276/203/276/226/257
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes: Ribbons added - Kalos Champion and Wishing Ribbon and JPN flag

So what is REALLY concerning-me about this pokemon is the Nickname written in English language but the flag is japanese. I do know in 6th gen, if you download a foreign pokemon like a japanese event Darkrai using an English cartridge, the pokemon WILL have english name and flag, but the OT will remain like the japanese name, but I don't know how that works in 4-5th gen. For me it doesn't looks correct, but that's just a guessing, I am looking for an accurate point of view.

I'm not sure about the language, so you should ask someone who knows more about such subjects. However, hex-flawless event Pokemon are very suspicious. I don't know if they can be RNG'd, though.

EDIT: Varanus posted moments before me...

QuoteMissy
23rd July 2014, 1:59 AM
So! I have this Genesect:

Pokemon Species: Genesect
Nickname: Genesect
OT: えいがかん
OT Gender: can't define
IDno: 07133
Shiny?: yes
EV's: zero
IV's: 31 all around
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Download
Moves: Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Flash Cannon, Techno Blast
Level Caught at: ???? (A fateful encounter seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region)
Current Level: 100
Stats: 283/276/203/276/226/257
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes: Ribbons added - Kalos Champion and Wishing Ribbon and JPN flag

So what is REALLY concerning-me about this pokemon is the Nickname written in English language but the flag is japanese. I do know in 6th gen, if you download a foreign pokemon like a japanese event Darkrai using an English cartridge, the pokemon WILL have english name and flag, but the OT will remain like the japanese name, but I don't know how that works in 4-5th gen. For me it doesn't looks correct, but that's just a guessing, I am looking for an accurate point of view.

I'm sorry but this is hacked 5th gen games and before have a 5 character limit, ID abusing to nickname it "Genesect" is impossible.

varanus_komodoensis
23rd July 2014, 2:29 AM
I'm not sure about the language, so you should ask someone who knows more about such subjects. However, hex-flawless event Pokemon are very suspicious. I don't know if they can be RNG'd, though.

EDIT: Varanus posted moments before me...

Events can be RNG'd and this one obviously was.


I'm sorry but this is hacked 5th gen games and before have a 5 character limit, ID abusing to nickname it "Genesect" is impossible.

I don't think the OP meant that Genesect was actually nicknamed "Gensect". The English "Gensect" just shows up in the Name slot on the summary page if the Pokemon isn't nicknamed in its native language.

QuoteMissy
23rd July 2014, 2:35 AM
I don't think the OP meant that Genesect was actually nicknamed "Gensect". The English "Gensect" just shows up in the Name slot on the summary page if the Pokemon isn't nicknamed in its native language.

So what is REALLY concerning-me about this pokemon is the Nickname written in English language but the flag is japanese.

I assume ZiR does know this, but we'll have to wait until ZiR checks this thread.

EDIT: if it says "Genesect" above the Genesect model's head/in the dark blue bar in the uppermost left region of the screen in the PC window and not it's name in japanese then it's illegal

ZiR
23rd July 2014, 3:49 AM
Yeah I just used into the battle and the game says: Go! Genesect! AND NOT: Go! ゲノセクト!
The pokemon has the english nickname but the flag over the DexNo. is actually JPN. My question is, if anyone claim a japanese pokemon event in an english game, the pokemon will have EVERYTHING in japanese, or something like this would be expected to happen, or that's not even a possible thing to do?

Before I forget: -Thanks guys! ^^

QuoteMissy
23rd July 2014, 3:59 AM
Yeah I just used into the battle and the game says: Go! Genesect! AND NOT: Go! ゲノセクト!
The pokemon has the english nickname but the flag over the DexNo. is actually JPN. My question is, if anyone claim a japanese pokemon event in an english game, the pokemon will have EVERYTHING in japanese, or something like this would expected to happen, or that's not even a possible thing to do?

Before I forget: -Thanks guys! ^^

In 5th gen and before? I don't think a non-japanese cart would even recognize any event from Japan. It would probably say "No wondercard available" even though it's in Wi-fi range of the event area.

ZiR
23rd July 2014, 4:10 AM
In 5th gen and before? I don't think a non-japanese cart would even recognize any event from Japan. It would probably say "No wondercard available" even though it's in Wi-fi range of the event area.

Yes 5th gen and earlier, that was my curiosity because I received some time ago a Keldeo (japanese event) with the exact same issues, I replaced because for me, that was impossible. But now when I received this Genesect which has the same sort of problem, I started to ask myself if my judgment to define it as hacked material was precipitated. So this Genesect is hacked, too bad. =/

Toujours_Caps
23rd July 2014, 5:26 AM
I think there were few English events that can be received with Japanese cartridge in earlir gen, but I doubt the genesect was the case.


Just for headsup, Blue's Pidgeot - Wallace's Milotic those line can not be in other lang than Japanese.

ZiR
23rd July 2014, 6:01 AM
I think there were few English events that can be received with Japanese cartridge in earlir gen, but I doubt the genesect was the case.

Just for headsup, Blue's Pidgeot - Wallace's Milotic those line can not be in other lang than Japanese.

That's interesting fact indeed. At least right now I will be a more careful with this kind of stuff for the next trades, and also I have a better idea how bad is the Nintendo filters to detect hacked pokemons though Pokebank. -_-

the ash man83
27th July 2014, 12:32 PM
Recently, as an alternative to PokéBank, I've been attempting (rather successfully) to obtain legendaries from the GTS. However, three of them have given me great concern. You'll see why:

Pokemon Species: Entei
Nickname: ?????
OT: けゐたろう
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 38786
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looking at the Super Training, not many, and all more or less balanced between each stat.
IV's: 31 in Attack, that's all I know.
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Fire Blast, Calm Mind, Eruption
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 350, Atk: 266, Def: 195, Sp Atk: 187, Sp Def: 173, Spd: 212
Location Caught: Seems to have travelled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
Any other notes?: Why would someone trade a Shiny lvl 100 Entei for a lvl 22 Chimecho? ._. OT Name may not be accurate, but that's roughly it.

Pokemon Species: Suicune
Nickname: ?????
OT: ンウル
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 44277
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looking at the Super Training, not many, and all more or less balanced between each stat.
IV's: None are flawless
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Hydro Pump, Calm Mind, Blizzard
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 326, Atk: 194, Def: 248, Sp Atk: 184, Sp Def: 245, Spd: 187
Location Caught: Seems to have travelled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: OT Name may not be correct, I'm just guessing. But again, this for an average Lopunny? And the Nicknames of both this and the Entei are slightly unnerving me. I'm quite surprised I didn't get a Raikou like these to complete the set.

Pokemon Species: Latios
Nickname: Latios
OT: Ash
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 30077
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looks to be maxed out in Sp Atk and Speed with a little emphasis on Atk (I'm assuming the last 4).
IV's: Flawless across the board
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Psyshock, Roost, Ice Beam, Draco Meteor
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 301, Atk: 195, Def: 196, Sp Atk: 394, Sp Def: 256, Spd: 319
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: This is the most worrying, being Shiny, lvl 100, Flawless, caught in a Master Ball etc.

Thanks in advance!

Lt. BLEU™
27th July 2014, 1:05 PM
Recently, as an alternative to PokéBank, I've been attempting (rather successfully) to obtain legendaries from the GTS. However, three of them have given me great concern. You'll see why:

Pokemon Species: Entei
Nickname: ?????
OT: けゐたろう
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 38786
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looking at the Super Training, not many, and all more or less balanced between each stat.
IV's: 31 in Attack, that's all I know.
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Fire Blast, Calm Mind, Eruption
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 350, Atk: 266, Def: 195, Sp Atk: 187, Sp Def: 173, Spd: 212
Location Caught: Seems to have travelled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
Any other notes?: Why would someone trade a Shiny lvl 100 Entei for a lvl 22 Chimecho? ._. OT Name may not be accurate, but that's roughly it.

Pokemon Species: Suicune
Nickname: ?????
OT: ンウル
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 44277
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looking at the Super Training, not many, and all more or less balanced between each stat.
IV's: None are flawless
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Hydro Pump, Calm Mind, Blizzard
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 326, Atk: 194, Def: 248, Sp Atk: 184, Sp Def: 245, Spd: 187
Location Caught: Seems to have travelled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: OT Name may not be correct, I'm just guessing. But again, this for an average Lopunny? And the Nicknames of both this and the Entei are slightly unnerving me. I'm quite surprised I didn't get a Raikou like these to complete the set.

Pokemon Species: Latios
Nickname: Latios
OT: Ash
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 30077
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looks to be maxed out in Sp Atk and Speed with a little emphasis on Atk (I'm assuming the last 4).
IV's: Flawless across the board
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Psyshock, Roost, Ice Beam, Draco Meteor
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 301, Atk: 195, Def: 196, Sp Atk: 394, Sp Def: 256, Spd: 319
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: This is the most worrying, being Shiny, lvl 100, Flawless, caught in a Master Ball etc.

Thanks in advance!

First two look legal enough to me but the thing is how is it possible to have fateful encounter Pokemon in a master ball? It should be a cherish ball so the Latios is a doubt.

Trevenant
27th July 2014, 2:06 PM
I'm pretty sure the Eon Ticket Lati@s is a fateful encounter due to being an event. That OT is a questionable one though, I'm pretty sure it belongs to either a known hacker or well-known cheating app (like PokEdit/PokeApp/others).

Lt. BLEU™
27th July 2014, 2:13 PM
I'm pretty sure the Eon Ticket Lati@s is a fateful encounter due to being an event. That OT is a questionable one though, I'm pretty sure it belongs to either a known hacker or well-known cheating app (like PokEdit/PokeApp/others).

No. I guess that OT/ID is not of an hacker IIRC. Pokecheck is down and nothing really can be said. Maybe you could wait for some experts to come around.

Trevenant
27th July 2014, 3:16 PM
I would indeed advise waiting. I know there was a few notorious OTs with the name Ash that all had hacked Pokemon, but who knows about that one.
Yeah, it's a shame about Pokecheck. I wish they'd bring it back but one of the owners has been missing for some time, no one knows what he's been up to or anything from what I hear, so I guess it's gone for good.

Toujours_Caps
27th July 2014, 7:15 PM
Pokemon Species: Entei
Nickname: ?????
OT: けゐたろう
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 38786
Shiny?: Yes

Is this OT really "けゐたろう" or "けるたろう"?

I believe it's "けゐたろう" since its pronunciation sounds like a name that actually exist, but OT"けゐたろう" is a hack as far as I know.

QuoteMissy
27th July 2014, 10:16 PM
Recently, as an alternative to PokéBank, I've been attempting (rather successfully) to obtain legendaries from the GTS. However, three of them have given me great concern. You'll see why:

Pokemon Species: Entei
Nickname: ?????
OT: けゐたろう
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 38786
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looking at the Super Training, not many, and all more or less balanced between each stat.
IV's: 31 in Attack, that's all I know.
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Fire Blast, Calm Mind, Eruption
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 350, Atk: 266, Def: 195, Sp Atk: 187, Sp Def: 173, Spd: 212
Location Caught: Seems to have travelled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
Any other notes?: Why would someone trade a Shiny lvl 100 Entei for a lvl 22 Chimecho? ._. OT Name may not be accurate, but that's roughly it.

Pokemon Species: Suicune
Nickname: ?????
OT: ンウル
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 44277
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looking at the Super Training, not many, and all more or less balanced between each stat.
IV's: None are flawless
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Hydro Pump, Calm Mind, Blizzard
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 326, Atk: 194, Def: 248, Sp Atk: 184, Sp Def: 245, Spd: 187
Location Caught: Seems to have travelled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: OT Name may not be correct, I'm just guessing. But again, this for an average Lopunny? And the Nicknames of both this and the Entei are slightly unnerving me. I'm quite surprised I didn't get a Raikou like these to complete the set.

Pokemon Species: Latios
Nickname: Latios
OT: Ash
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 30077
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Looks to be maxed out in Sp Atk and Speed with a little emphasis on Atk (I'm assuming the last 4).
IV's: Flawless across the board
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Psyshock, Roost, Ice Beam, Draco Meteor
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 301, Atk: 195, Def: 196, Sp Atk: 394, Sp Def: 256, Spd: 319
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: This is the most worrying, being Shiny, lvl 100, Flawless, caught in a Master Ball etc.

Thanks in advance!

Entei and Suicune are definitely suspicious, but I definitely wouldn't touch that Latios with a 10 foot pole, getting flawless spreads in 3rd gen that weren't egg abuses are extremely difficult (difficult as in I know only two people that actually managed to do it). Plus the fact that there are many hacked Pokemon with OT: Ash and various IDs, I say this is likely hacked.

Trevenant
28th July 2014, 12:05 AM
getting flawless spreads in 3rd gen that weren't egg abuses are extremely difficult (difficult as in I know only two people that actually managed to do it).Well, pretty much any Gen 3 RNG abuse is done via emulator, in which case there isn't much of anything that's difficult. Those multi-day waits getting to you for a good seed? Frame skip + turbo. You even have save states for a potential mess-up and a frame counter/emulator pausing to help with the frames.

the ash man83
29th July 2014, 2:13 PM
So are they all just 'suspicious', or are any of them definitely hacked?

Trevenant
29th July 2014, 4:33 PM
Is the nickname on the Entei/Suicune really ????? or is that because it's Japanese text you couldn't type?
Regardless I see nothing screaming "hacked" about either of them. They could've learned how to RNG at some point after catching those and gave them away to be nice, either that or they cloned them and wanted to be nice by spreading the goods to randoms.

The Latias I am VERY weary of. That name and ID were attached to a Black and White (not sure if it was 2) savefile at the very least as I found a Terrakion by searching that OT and ID. Yes, ID abuse is possible. But why do it for something like that...? (having the same IDs on multiple games just for the sake of it)

Shine
29th July 2014, 7:12 PM
Do Korean games in Gen 4 have access to English characters despite being unable to trade with English games? If yes, are the characters similar to the ones in English games, or are they blocky like the English in Japanese games?

I'm asking because just recently I received a Korean Sinnoh Pokemon that has a standard non-blocky English OT.....

Trevenant
29th July 2014, 8:00 PM
I can test this later if no one answers, for event purposes I have a 4th gen game for each country/language tied to it.

Late edit, I know, but I confirmed it, Korean games (at least HG/SS as I couldn't find D/P/Pt in my bag of DS games) do indeed have the standard English font, not the bizarre, blocky font that Japanese games do. I assume it's because English is more standard in Korea than Japan, or something.

Still only five-characters. But definitely the normal English font.

-Illusionist
30th July 2014, 2:10 PM
Is it possible to RNG abuse TRU Arceus' event? I just got this:

Pokémon Species: Arceus [ENG]
Nickname: /
OT: TRU
OT Gender: /
ID No.: 11079
Shiny: No
EV's: a few, randomly spread
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Judgment | Roar of Time | Spacial Rend | Shadow Force
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 383/281/277/279/249/305
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: has the Classic Ribbon

Lt. BLEU™
30th July 2014, 2:22 PM
Is it possible to RNG abuse TRU Arceus' event? I just got this:

Pokémon Species: Arceus [ENG]
Nickname: /
OT: TRU
OT Gender: /
ID No.: 11079
Shiny: No
EV's: a few, randomly spread
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Judgment | Roar of Time | Spacial Rend | Shadow Force
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 383/281/277/279/249/305
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: has the Classic Ribbon

Looks legal enough...On paper.

Tsukuyomi56
30th July 2014, 2:23 PM
Is it possible to RNG abuse TRU Arceus' event? I just got this:

Pokémon Species: Arceus [ENG]
Nickname: /
OT: TRU
OT Gender: /
ID No.: 11079
Shiny: No
EV's: a few, randomly spread
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Judgment | Roar of Time | Spacial Rend | Shadow Force
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 383/281/277/279/249/305
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: has the Classic Ribbon
It is possible to RNG abuse wonder card event Pokemon, so the Arceus should be legit.
Edit: Ninja'd.

-Illusionist
30th July 2014, 2:35 PM
Thanks for your advice, guys.
If Pokécheck will ever be up again, I might check it further

Kuvario
1st August 2014, 1:27 AM
Got this Mewtwo from Wonder Trade and it looks fishy.

OT: Diana
OT Gender: Can't tell but probably female
IDno: 63256
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Maxed in speed and SP. ATK
IV's: Maxed in HP, Speed, and Defense.
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Shadow Ball, Psystrike, Ice Beam, and Aura Sphere
Level Caught at: Apparently Lv. 70
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: 354/211/216/443/186/359
Location Caught: Unknown Dungeon
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: None ATM

ilovemyumbreon
1st August 2014, 2:35 AM
Got this Mewtwo from Wonder Trade and it looks fishy.

OT: Diana
OT Gender: Can't tell but probably female
IDno: 63256
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Maxed in speed and SP. ATK
IV's: Maxed in HP, Speed, and Defense.
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Shadow Ball, Psystrike, Ice Beam, and Aura Sphere
Level Caught at: Apparently Lv. 70
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: 354/211/216/443/186/359
Location Caught: Unknown Dungeon
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: None ATM
I think that in XY, Mewtwo is shiny locked. It's probably been altered or was hacked to begin with.

Trevenant
1st August 2014, 2:05 PM
I'm pretty sure PowerSaves-altered Xerneas or Yveltal made to be shiny can't be traded. I would assume the same thing about Kalos-born shiny Mewtwo, though obviously I can't be sure.

QuoteMissy
1st August 2014, 11:14 PM
Got this Mewtwo from Wonder Trade and it looks fishy.

OT: Diana
OT Gender: Can't tell but probably female
IDno: 63256
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Maxed in speed and SP. ATK
IV's: Maxed in HP, Speed, and Defense.
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Shadow Ball, Psystrike, Ice Beam, and Aura Sphere
Level Caught at: Apparently Lv. 70
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: 354/211/216/443/186/359
Location Caught: Unknown Dungeon
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: None ATM

Legendaries from X and Y cannot be shiny. (https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/read-me-tips-for-simple-hack-checks-please-for-the-love-of-god-read-the-op-first.3498670/)

SilverLanayru
1st August 2014, 11:41 PM
Legendaries from X and Y cannot be shiny. (https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/read-me-tips-for-simple-hack-checks-please-for-the-love-of-god-read-the-op-first.3498670/)
Ooooh, I need to bookmark this for my own reference.
I've been wondering for awhile if the Kalos Mewtwo and the birds were shiny-locked as well, but this pretty much sums it up.

Myuu~
1st August 2014, 11:46 PM
So! I have this Genesect:

Pokemon Species: Genesect
Nickname: Genesect
OT: えいがかん
OT Gender: can't define
IDno: 07133
Shiny?: yes
EV's: zero
IV's: 31 all around
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Download
Moves: Flamethrower, Ice Beam, Flash Cannon, Techno Blast
Level Caught at: ???? (A fateful encounter seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region)
Current Level: 100
Stats: 283/276/203/276/226/257
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes: Ribbons added - Kalos Champion and Wishing Ribbon and JPN flag

So what is REALLY concerning-me about this pokemon is the Nickname written in English language but the flag is japanese. I do know in 6th gen, if you download a foreign pokemon like a japanese event Darkrai using an English cartridge, the pokemon WILL have english name and flag, but the OT will remain like the japanese name, but I don't know how that works in 4-5th gen. For me it doesn't looks correct, but that's just a guessing, I am looking for an accurate point of view.

The OT is in Japanese and it says "eigakan" which is typically the OT given to event pokemon that are distributed during movie events. But the english name of the Genesect is questionable still. I hope I was able to help. :)

Myuu~
1st August 2014, 11:52 PM
Yes 5th gen and earlier, that was my curiosity because I received some time ago a Keldeo (japanese event) with the exact same issues, I replaced because for me, that was impossible. But now when I received this Genesect which has the same sort of problem, I started to ask myself if my judgment to define it as hacked material was precipitated. So this Genesect is hacked, too bad. =/

Sorry, Didn't see that you already figured it out, my bad ^~^'

-Illusionist
4th August 2014, 1:28 PM
I've just received a flawless 31/x/31/31/31/31 non-shiny Japanese Kyogre which "seems to have traveled through time and space to get to the Kalos region from Hoenn". The aforementioned Pokémon is untouched at LV. 70, with its standard moveset from Emerald. Am I supposed to assume this is a hack?
I know for sure that it is very unlikely to RNG with success for a spread like this in Generation III games due to how their mechanics work

Lt. BLEU™
4th August 2014, 2:11 PM
I've just received a flawless 31/x/31/31/31/31 non-shiny Japanese Kyogre which "seems to have traveled through time and space to get to the Kalos region from Hoenn". The aforementioned Pokémon is untouched at LV. 70, with its standard moveset from Emerald. Am I supposed to assume this is a hack?
I know for sure that it is very unlikely to RNG with success for a spread like this in Generation III games due to how their mechanics work

Well since this is nothing different, if you would provide the details like OT and ID, we could give a better answer. As for RNG, it is difficult but not nearly impossible. We have a few RNGers here as well. Fill up the form on the OP and we could better help you.

-Illusionist
4th August 2014, 2:37 PM
I'm sorry I didn't provide the "in-dept" chart but I couldn't; I'll post it as soon as I can (unfortunately, this won't happen too soon).
For the moment, thanks for your reply

Earendil
4th August 2014, 5:11 PM
Is/ was the movie Darkrai code redeemable in an English game? I received one with no Japanese region tag and an English name. The only Japanese text attached to it is for its Original Trainer. I'm assuming someone used a Powersave device to inject the Wonder Card into their English game?

-Illusionist
4th August 2014, 7:10 PM
Is/ was the movie Darkrai code redeemable in an English game? I received one with no Japanese region tag and an English name. The only Japanese text attached to it is for its Original Trainer. I'm assuming someone used a Powersave device to inject the Wonder Card into their English game?

As far as I am concerned, redeemable codes do not work on foreign eShops, hence the answer to your first question should be negative. Don't count on my word though, because I might be wrong or inaccurate.
Anyway, I already heard of legit Jap Darkrai from the movie not being "Japanese" (with European fonts and without the tag).
What I mean is that the Darkrai you possess might not be obtained through hacking. Definitely wait for more detailed opinions

Post Scriptum: It goes without saying that the language of the cartridge itself does not matter as long as the 3DS system is Japanese. So, yeah, you can redeem the code on a foreign language game; I am absolutely clueless as to how the OT is JAP though

SilverLanayru
7th August 2014, 7:43 AM
Alright, not sure if I really need to provide the info since I've checked this for myself, but I'll post it anyway.
However, with this certain talk a few posts back, I have encountered a situation similar to ZiR's recently. In my case, it's a Diancie.
I obtained the movie Diancie from a friend not too long ago, and it's cloned. Everything seems to check out, except for the fact that its name is in English and not Japanese.

Pokémon Species: Diancie
Nickname: Diancie
OT: えいがかん
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 07194
Shiny?: No.
EV's: None.
IV's: 31/x/31/x/31/x (Relatively superior potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits.
Ability: Clear Body
Moves: Diamond Storm / Moonblast / Reflect / Return
Level Caught at: 50
Current Level: 50
Stats: 125 / 112 / 170 / 118 / 170 / 54
Location Caught: Apparently a fateful encounter.
Egg?: No.
Pokéball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:
- It is holding a Wishing Ribbon.
- It has memories.
- If the 'Date Met' matters, 07/23/2014.

-Illusionist
7th August 2014, 3:24 PM
To Earendil: Darkrai from the 17th Movie will have the Japanese OT no matter what language your game is in (provided you redeem it on a Japanese system, as I made clear in my previous post), since it is fixed. Sorry for figuring it out so late.
To SilverLanayru: same applies to Diancie. The person who received the Diancie was playing the game in English (many people do so in Japan), hence there is absolutely no problem with your Diancie :)

Trevenant
7th August 2014, 4:52 PM
I've just received a flawless 31/x/31/31/31/31 non-shiny Japanese Kyogre which "seems to have traveled through time and space to get to the Kalos region from Hoenn". The aforementioned Pokémon is untouched at LV. 70, with its standard moveset from Emerald. Am I supposed to assume this is a hack?
I know for sure that it is very unlikely to RNG with success for a spread like this in Generation III games due to how their mechanics workAs someone said, fill out the form. Post any info about it you could, OT/ID are also helpful to know.

It is worth noting there's a lot more Gen 3 RNGers than people generally lead others on to believe, this is due to the fact that a lot more people RNG on emulators (DS included) now due to having more powerful PCs than in the past.

dragontamer44722
7th August 2014, 6:01 PM
Pokemon Species:Heatran
Nickname:none
OT:TCP
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 28191
Shiny?:no
EV's: (if known)Max HP/Special Defense, the rest in Defense
IV's: (if known)6ivs
Nature:Calm
Characteristic:Mischievous
Ability:Flash Fire
Moves:Lava Plume, Roar, Ancient POwer, Stealth Rock
Level Caught at:n/a
Current Level:100
Stats:Atk:194, Defense:250, SpAtk:296, SpDf:342. Spd:190
Location Caught:Unova
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In:Pokeball
Any other notes?:THe fact its in a POkeball is a major flag for me, and the OT name looks odd. I'd like to trade this but don't want to if its hacked.

Lt. BLEU™
7th August 2014, 6:24 PM
Pokemon Species:Heatran
Nickname:none
OT:TCP
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 28191
Shiny?:no
EV's: (if known)Max HP/Special Defense, the rest in Defense
IV's: (if known)6ivs
Nature:Calm
Characteristic:Mischievous
Ability:Flash Fire
Moves:Lava Plume, Roar, Ancient POwer, Stealth Rock
Level Caught at:n/a
Current Level:100
Stats:Atk:194, Defense:250, SpAtk:296, SpDf:342. Spd:190
Location Caught:Unova
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In:Pokeball
Any other notes?:THe fact its in a POkeball is a major flag for me, and the OT name looks odd. I'd like to trade this but don't want to if its hacked.

Looks legal and can be caught in a Pokeball.

tomatohater
10th August 2014, 12:33 AM
Pokémon Species: Shaymin
Nickname: Probably just Japanese for Shaymin
OT: PC
OT Gender: ?
ID No.: 12191
Shiny: No
EV's:
IV's: perfect 31/x31/31/31/31
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Leech Seed, Seed Flare, Synthesis, Sweet Scent
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 175, 95, 120, 120, 120, 132
Location Caught: Travel space and time from Unova
Egg: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: has the Classic Ribbon

That OT and ID No. looks very suspicious to me personally.

SilverLanayru
10th August 2014, 12:50 AM
To Earendil: Darkrai from the 17th Movie will have the Japanese OT no matter what language your game is in (provided you redeem it on a Japanese system, as I made clear in my previous post), since it is fixed. Sorry for figuring it out so late.
To SilverLanayru: same applies to Diancie. The person who received the Diancie was playing the game in English (many people do so in Japan), hence there is absolutely no problem with your Diancie :)
Oh right, that is possible, too. o.o I'll consider your word! Personally would like an additional opinion, just in case. xD


Pokémon Species: Shaymin
Nickname: Probably just Japanese for Shaymin
OT: PC
OT Gender: ?
ID No.: 12191
Shiny: No
EV's:
IV's: perfect 31/x31/31/31/31
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Leech Seed, Seed Flare, Synthesis, Sweet Scent
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 175, 95, 120, 120, 120, 132
Location Caught: Travel space and time from Unova
Egg: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: has the Classic Ribbon

That OT and ID No. looks very suspicious to me personally.
It does match the details of the Pokémon Center Shaymin given out for Black/White/Black2/White2 versions in Japan. Likely RNG abused and possibly cloned, but otherwise, looks legal to me on the surface. The letters for 'PC' look something like this (PC), right?

Pokeman Man
10th August 2014, 3:35 PM
Pokemon Species: Mewtwo
Nickname: None
OT: PRI2012
OT Gender: dont think this applies anymore
IDno: 05012
Shiny?: No
EV's: None
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Psystrike, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Electro Ball
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 70
Stats: 250/162/152/242/152/228
Location Caught: Event
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish


Any other notes?: Got this Mewtwo in a trade. He told me it's the event Pokemon and it was RNGd in gen5 (which is fine with me) but when I was looking at the event database, none of the OT and ID matched with each other, even though some of the event ones listed are the same. Has SPA tag and Premier Ribbon.
http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/150.shtml

Earendil
10th August 2014, 4:27 PM
Thanks for your help; I do appreciate it. :)

Lt. BLEU™
10th August 2014, 5:02 PM
Pokemon Species: Mewtwo
Nickname: None
OT: PRI2012
OT Gender: dont think this applies anymore
IDno: 05012
Shiny?: No
EV's: None
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Psystrike, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Electro Ball
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 70
Stats: 250/162/152/242/152/228
Location Caught: Event
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish


Any other notes?: Got this Mewtwo in a trade. He told me it's the event Pokemon and it was RNGd in gen5 (which is fine with me) but when I was looking at the event database, none of the OT and ID matched with each other, even though some of the event ones listed are the same. Has SPA tag and Premier Ribbon.
http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/150.shtml

I don't think this is any good

Trevenant
10th August 2014, 5:55 PM
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_notable_ID_Nos.

It helps to do a lot of research on multiple sites. It's a real event. I'm shocked it isn't on Serebii, but with 50 Mewtwo events per year I guess it isn't too surprising that one or two get forgotten.

FairyWitch
10th August 2014, 7:24 PM
Pokemon Species: Mewtwo
Nickname: None
OT: PRI2012
OT Gender: dont think this applies anymore
IDno: 05012
Shiny?: No
EV's: None
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Psystrike, Shadow Ball, Aura Sphere, Electro Ball
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 70
Stats: 250/162/152/242/152/228
Location Caught: Event
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish


Any other notes?: Got this Mewtwo in a trade. He told me it's the event Pokemon and it was RNGd in gen5 (which is fine with me) but when I was looking at the event database, none of the OT and ID matched with each other, even though some of the event ones listed are the same. Has SPA tag and Premier Ribbon.
http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/150.shtml

its alright serebii forgot to put this one up XD i found it on bulbpedia it appears your mewtwo is legal but we shall never know if its truely legit though....

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Wi-Fi_Italian_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Gen eration_V#Spring_2012_Mewtwo

Trevenant
11th August 2014, 2:27 AM
In all honesty it's impossible to know if anything you receive in a trade is legitimate, you can only know that it's legal.

Pokeman Man
11th August 2014, 2:55 AM
Well, it's definitely a relief that at least one site has it xD Thanks for your help!

SmeargleRocks
11th August 2014, 4:56 AM
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_notable_ID_Nos.

It helps to do a lot of research on multiple sites. It's a real event. I'm shocked it isn't on Serebii, but with 50 Mewtwo events per year I guess it isn't too surprising that one or two get forgotten.
Serebii mainly keeps tabs on us and Japanese events and most others aren't added, at least if they are its not for a while that's what I've noticed over the past 3 years, but that should be the French equivalent of the electro ball mewtwo event we got around 2011

WishIhadaManafi5
12th August 2014, 7:30 AM
Came across an odd Braviary tonight.

OT: KJ
OT Gender: Can't tell
IDno: 28469
Shiny?: No
EV's: Not sure
IV's: Not sure
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Thoroughly cunning.
Ability: Sheer Force
Moves: Hidden Power
Level Caught at: N/A
Current Level: Lv. 92
Stats: 291/237/150/130/148/153
Location Caught: N/A
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: Decent, best stat is Sp. Atk., definitely good. It says: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.


Edit: Ah ha! I was right to be suspect of this Pokémon. It's not legit. There have been no events for Braviary.


My only guess could be a White 2 Braviary, since you can run into them on Mondays (iirc), if it's not a hack... but I'm VERY doubtful of this one.

FairyWitch
12th August 2014, 8:26 PM
Came across an odd Braviary tonight.

OT: KJ
OT Gender: Can't tell
IDno: 28469
Shiny?: No
EV's: Not sure
IV's: Not sure
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Thoroughly cunning.
Ability: Sheer Force
Moves: Hidden Power
Level Caught at: N/A
Current Level: Lv. 92
Stats: 291/237/150/130/148/153
Location Caught: N/A
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: Decent, best stat is Sp. Atk., definitely good. It says: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.


Edit: Ah ha! I was right to be suspect of this Pokémon. It's not legit. There have been no events for Braviary.


My only guess could be a White 2 Braviary, since you can run into them on Mondays (iirc), if it's not a hack... but I'm VERY doubtful of this one.

the OT of this pokemon seems familar as well as im not postivtive at the moment if its a hack or not but it can learn hidden power and the ability is correct i can be caught in bw as its pre evolution,the level is normal to do leveling it up...I am a bit tired so i may of missed something but it seems legal so far to me but like i said that OT looks so familar can't remember if it was a hack person or not...

QuoteMissy
12th August 2014, 11:38 PM
Came across an odd Braviary tonight.

OT: KJ
OT Gender: Can't tell
IDno: 28469
Shiny?: No
EV's: Not sure
IV's: Not sure
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Thoroughly cunning.
Ability: Sheer Force
Moves: Hidden Power
Level Caught at: N/A
Current Level: Lv. 92
Stats: 291/237/150/130/148/153
Location Caught: N/A
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: Decent, best stat is Sp. Atk., definitely good. It says: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.


Edit: Ah ha! I was right to be suspect of this Pokémon. It's not legit. There have been no events for Braviary.


My only guess could be a White 2 Braviary, since you can run into them on Mondays (iirc), if it's not a hack... but I'm VERY doubtful of this one.


Yeah it's hacked, the White 2 Braviary won't have the fateful tag.

WishIhadaManafi5
14th August 2014, 4:47 AM
Thanks you guys! Sucks it wasn't legit, but oh well.

-Illusionist
14th August 2014, 1:04 PM
Pokémon Species: Kyogre
Nickname: カイオーガ
OT: セロキ (that's roughly it)
OT Gender: /
IDno: 18743
Shiny?: No
EVs: None
IVs: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drizzle
Moves: Hydro Pump | Rest | Sheer Cold | Double-Edge
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 70
Stats: 241/147/152/259/222/152
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball


My only concern, as I said a while ago, is the perfect IV spread and the apparent provenience from a gen III game (Emerald?), where RNG didn't work so smoothly

Lt. BLEU™
14th August 2014, 1:08 PM
Pokémon Species: Kyogre
Nickname: カイオーガ
OT: セロキ (that's roughly it)
OT Gender: /
IDno: 18743
Shiny?: No
EVs: None
IVs: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drizzle
Moves: Hydro Pump | Rest | Sheer Cold | Double-Edge
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 70
Stats: 241/147/152/259/222/152
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball


My only concern, as I said a while ago, is the perfect IV spread and the apparent provenience from a gen III game (Emerald?), where RNG didn't work so smoothly

Well, RNG did not work smoothly but it worked. So possibly a good legal Pokemon. Maybe the reason why it's not made Shiny through RNG..

Trevenant
14th August 2014, 8:19 PM
I can personally attest that RNGing in Emerald is far from unlikely... on an emulator. Especially with random battles or worse, legendaries. Some good (legendary/random battle) spreads require... oh, a day and a half to wait for. :) Trivial on an emulator (turbo/frame skip), especially when you can save state a bit before it's time to hit the seed, so if you mess it up, just reload and try again.
It would be pretty pointless to hack a "legitimate looking" Gen 3 Kyogre when that would, ironically, raise more flags from people than a Gen 4 (HG/SS) one.

I would say it is at the very least legal. Nothing looks weird about it to me.

-Illusionist
14th August 2014, 10:40 PM
Thanks you both (also for your previous replies).
I myself lean towards thinking that it might not be hacked, especially after hearing the possibility of RNG exploitation on emulators; furthermore, given how easy it is to clone on Emerald and/or to duplicate a pkmn.file obtained through emulation, that is more likely to be a clone.
to Trevenant: I would never use the "a hacker would not do so, since it raises a flag" argument though, because it is fallacious: not only the counter-argument can still be applied to a certain extent ("If this seems a blatant hack it might not be as well, because nobody would hack so poorly"), but you also forgive that some hackers operate with malice on purpose, and, either way, they deceive you. Yet I have to admit that, if, like a certain philospher, we assume that "everything is fake until proven otherwise", no step can be taken.
That's an impasse I guess :)

FairyWitch
14th August 2014, 11:11 PM
Yeah it's hacked, the White 2 Braviary won't have the fateful tag.

well when getting enough sleep i missed that thanks quote so yeah its a hack missed the fateful ecounter tag lmao


Pokémon Species: Kyogre
Nickname: カイオーガ
OT: セロキ (that's roughly it)
OT Gender: /
IDno: 18743
Shiny?: No
EVs: None
IVs: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drizzle
Moves: Hydro Pump | Rest | Sheer Cold | Double-Edge
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 70
Stats: 241/147/152/259/222/152
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball


My only concern, as I said a while ago, is the perfect IV spread and the apparent provenience from a gen III game (Emerald?), where RNG didn't work so smoothly

you can rng on emerald but im not sure of all the possible spreads and etc on that game. you would need someone that knows the chart or knows how to rng 3rd gen to figure this one out...I never got to rng on that game yet. personally i feel it may be a hack buti could be wrong.

Trevenant
15th August 2014, 4:00 AM
It was likely RNGed in R/S, I don't have any more info to get a better guess on though, sadly. I know it wasn't Emerald, and I know it similarly wasn't R/S with a dead battery (which has as poor of an RNG as Emerald).

I say it's legal, at least. I would be able to do more investigations if we still had Pokecheck or something though, as I could easily find out how it was obtained (hacked/RNGed) via its PID.

FairyWitch
16th August 2014, 4:14 AM
It was likely RNGed in R/S, I don't have any more info to get a better guess on though, sadly. I know it wasn't Emerald, and I know it similarly wasn't R/S with a dead battery (which has as poor of an RNG as Emerald).

I say it's legal, at least. I would be able to do more investigations if we still had Pokecheck or something though, as I could easily find out how it was obtained (hacked/RNGed) via its PID.

we mostly need someone that has rnged before check this pokemon as well as Im not sure how to work my reporter for 3rd gen to search the spread :/ I only can search 4th and 5th gen. I know for sure though 4th gen is limited on spreads for shinies as we as some spreads don't even exist on 4th gen but if we had someone check it that knows and rnged before on 3rd gen as of now im not sure if its legal. Also, pokecheck was pretty poor on checking 3rd generation mons hacks i noticed there was alot of things that said it was legal but it wasn't got to be careful because someone told me that did rng 3rd gen it was a hack for one of my mons someone traded me here which was a bummer because check showed everything legal. I do remember though someone saying though spreads on 3rd gen was pretty much limited too so hopefully we can have someone check this properly.

Trevenant
16th August 2014, 11:26 AM
4th gen is limited on spreads for shiniesIt isn't. ID abuse.


I do remember though someone saying though spreads on 3rd gen was pretty much limited too so hopefully we can have someone check this properly.They are, but Ruby/Sapphire and FR/LG aren't necessarily forced to always use the same seed, unlike Emerald which is due to a programming error (though ID Abuse can still allow good IV spreads for a shiny legendary/wild Pokemon, or something).

R/S could have a dreadfully poor RNG too if the internal battery (real-time clock) dies, as then the seed remains static always, similar to Emerald.

We don't have access to its .pkm or .pkx file, so there's nothing more anyone could do to help as far as legality checking goes.
I have limited experience RNGing in Emerald (I lack many reasons to do it, honestly), but I know how to RNG in each gen, though I lack the skill to do so post-Gen 3.

As you said though, even good hack-checks can't properly detect Gen 3 Pokemon. Which is why all Wish Chansey are assumed to be hacked - for a good reason, there's nothing different between a supposed "real" one and one that was bred on FR/LG but hacked to have Wish/Sweet Scent as an egg.

Arbalest
17th August 2014, 8:38 PM
Pokémon Species: Kyogre
Nickname: カイオーガ
OT: セロキ (that's roughly it)
OT Gender: /
IDno: 18743
Shiny?: No
EVs: None
IVs: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drizzle
Moves: Hydro Pump | Rest | Sheer Cold | Double-Edge
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 70
Stats: 241/147/152/259/222/152
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball


My only concern, as I said a while ago, is the perfect IV spread and the apparent provenience from a gen III game (Emerald?), where RNG didn't work so smoothlyIf it doesn't have EVs you could atleast try to figure out all the IVs, and then you would see that with those stats they're clearly 31/28/31/31/31/31, and then with some basic RNG knowledge it becomes a very obvious hack since there is no Modest spread like that available for Hoenn Legends.


As you said though, even good hack-checks can't properly detect Gen 3 Pokemon. Which is why all Wish Chansey are assumed to be hacked - for a good reason, there's nothing different between a supposed "real" one and one that was bred on FR/LG but hacked to have Wish/Sweet Scent as an egg.The major hack checking programs of 4th/5th gen didn't work well for 3rd gen mons because they often weren't programmed to, or atleast not programmed to check multiple things. A person familiar with 3rd gen mechanics works fine.

And there is a difference between a legal Wish Chansey and a random* breed that has Wish hacked/glitched on, but it usually requires viewing hidden data and knowing what to look for. The reason they're often assumed hacked is because most are hacked, and even a legal one has a high chance of being hacked.

*it is possible to RNG an egg on FR/LG specifically to look like a legal Wish Chansey, teach Mimic, then use the Mimic/Rage glitch in 4th gen to give it Sweet Scent/Wish. But nobody else is crazy enough to do that, and it would still look different than what most people think a legal Wish Chansey should look like.

Trevenant
18th August 2014, 2:52 AM
and then with some basic RNG knowledge it becomes a very obvious hack since there is no Modest spread like that available for Hoenn Legends.We'd need a better RNG Reporter for Gen 3. Via ID abuse (which is poorly documented for Gen 3), it is possible to get 6IV Shiny Timid spreads for Emerald of all things.

Barring that, more poorly documented things would include that R/S have 100% exploitable RNGs like Gen 4/5 in that they don't always start on the same seed provided the game has a working real-time clock/internal battery. Something like that would probably allow some previously unheard of IV spreads.


And there is a difference between a legal Wish Chansey and a random* breed that has Wish hacked/glitched on, but it usually requires viewing hidden data and knowing what to look for. The reason they're often assumed hacked is because most are hacked, and even a legal one has a high chance of being hacked.False. It lacks the Fateful Encounter flag and it uses the hatcher's ID/SID/OT.

In no generation of Pokemon games does the baby retain info about its parents (Egg Moves or Poke Ball passing doesn't count. You still can't tell much about the parents to know if they had an illegal PID/etc.) - which is the only way you would know a glitched/hacked Wish Chansey/etc from an event one. It's sad, but true.

There's nothing that would identify it as "definitely/possibly event" or "legally hacked/glitched", both are the same.

Arbalest
18th August 2014, 5:05 AM
We'd need a better RNG Reporter for Gen 3. Via ID abuse (which is poorly documented for Gen 3), it is possible to get 6IV Shiny Timid spreads for Emerald of all things.

Barring that, more poorly documented things would include that R/S have 100% exploitable RNGs like Gen 4/5 in that they don't always start on the same seed provided the game has a working real-time clock/internal battery. Something like that would probably allow some previously unheard of IV spreads.The current RNG reporter is fine for 3rd gen RNGing. ID abuse for dead battery R/S is well documented (no point in doing it with a live battery unless you really want a novelty TID/SID combo), ID abuse for FR/LG/E is poorly documented but is also strictly emulator only territory, which is often poorly documented anyways.

Live Battery R/S is poorly documented because only a handful of people have done it due to the time, effort, and RNG knowledge involved, and the fact it uses a (somewhat) controllable starting seed only means that more spreads become feasible for retail abuse. The RNG is a loop, the seed only determines where you start and therefore how far away your target is, not what appears on the loop.


False. It lacks the Fateful Encounter flag and it uses the hatcher's ID/SID/OT.PCNY Wish events were given out as Fateful encounters, but there was a (somewhat obscure) method of getting them without the Fateful flag when hatched. I've not transferred any legal ones to X/Y to confirm the Fateful flag remains, but I see no reason why it wouldn't.


In no generation of Pokemon games does the baby retain info about its parents (Egg Moves or Poke Ball passing doesn't count. You still can't tell much about the parents to know if they had an illegal PID/etc.) - which is the only way you would know a glitched/hacked Wish Chansey/etc from an event one. It's sad, but true.
FR/LG eggs use one method of generating the IVs/PID (technically two for different parts that combine to form the finished egg, but you get the point), the PCNY Wish events used a different and comparably very limited method of generating the IVs/PID. You're better off buying a lotto ticket than hoping your randomly bred egg will have recieved an IV/PID combo that happens to be legal for both methods.


There's nothing that would identify it as "definitely/possibly event" or "legally hacked/glitched", both are the same.There is of course no way to identify a true "legally hacked/glitched" Wish Chansey, but you're not likely to get one just by throwing a Chansey and Ditto into the Daycare and hacking/glitching Wish onto it.

Trevenant
18th August 2014, 11:52 AM
PCNY Wish events were given out as Fateful encounters, but there was a (somewhat obscure) method of getting them without the Fateful flag when hatched. I've not transferred any legal ones to X/Y to confirm the Fateful flag remains, but I see no reason why it wouldn't.

The fateful encounter flag doesn't stick after transfer anyway. In Gen 3, it's the location data (i.e.: "Met in Pewter City", or something.), not additional blurb like in Gen 4 and onward.


the PCNY Wish events used a different and comparably very limited method of generating the IVs/PID.I've always heard this but no one has ever been able to document what Method it uses. But there's also the fateful encounter rumor which isn't true, so who knows.

I'm almost positive a Pokemon in any gen can't hatch as a Fateful Encounter.

ArchangelUnmei
18th August 2014, 5:21 PM
Got this on a WT, it looks to me like a cloned SR from HGSS, but the fact it's in a Pokeball rather than something higher makes me suspicious. =/

Pokemon Species: Ho-oh
Nickname: None
OT: Lynch
OT Gender: Can't tell
IDno: 28113
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Few/none according to the Super Training progress bar
IV's: (if known) 27/22/16,17/15/22,23/16,17 assuming no EVs
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Nods off a lot
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Sunny Day, Fire Blast, Sacred Fire
Level Caught at: Can't tell
Current Level: 70
Stats: 247/202/142/169/236/142
Location Caught: Can't Tell
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: "Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region." Also has the Legend Ribbon, given in HGSS for defeating Red at Mt. Silver.

Lt. BLEU™
18th August 2014, 5:23 PM
Got this on a WT, it looks to me like a cloned SR from HGSS, but the fact it's in a Pokeball rather than something higher makes me suspicious. =/

Pokemon Species: Ho-oh
Nickname: None
OT: Lynch
OT Gender: Can't tell
IDno: 28113
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Few/none according to the Super Training progress bar
IV's: (if known) 27/22/16,17/15/22,23/16,17 assuming no EVs
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Nods off a lot
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Sunny Day, Fire Blast, Sacred Fire
Level Caught at: Can't tell
Current Level: 70
Stats: 247/202/142/169/236/142
Location Caught: Can't Tell
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: "Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region." Also has the Legend Ribbon, given in HGSS for defeating Red at Mt. Silver.

Looks legal enough to the eye. I don't see why it can't be caught in a Pokeball.

dewey911p
18th August 2014, 8:24 PM
Got this on a WT, it looks to me like a cloned SR from HGSS, but the fact it's in a Pokeball rather than something higher makes me suspicious. =/

Pokemon Species: Ho-oh
Nickname: None
OT: Lynch
OT Gender: Can't tell
IDno: 28113
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Few/none according to the Super Training progress bar
IV's: (if known) 27/22/16,17/15/22,23/16,17 assuming no EVs
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Nods off a lot
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Extrasensory, Sunny Day, Fire Blast, Sacred Fire
Level Caught at: Can't tell
Current Level: 70
Stats: 247/202/142/169/236/142
Location Caught: Can't Tell
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: "Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region." Also has the Legend Ribbon, given in HGSS for defeating Red at Mt. Silver.

Pretty sure it's hacked. The only valid IV combo returned a seed that requires Cute Charm, and since Ho-oh is genderless, CC doesn't affect it. Unless I overlooked an IV combo, there is no valid spread with that nature for a genderless legendary.

Shine
19th August 2014, 7:44 AM
I'm almost positive a Pokemon in any gen can't hatch as a Fateful Encounter.

Except for the Year of the Dragon eggs. I'm very sure the YOTD eggs do hatch with Fateful Encounter tag.

Eternalhero
19th August 2014, 6:28 PM
Hi guys I need help. I traded a long time ago but I just want to make sure this is legit.

Shiny Level 100 Latios

Name Latios
Attack 171
Defense 196
Sp. Atk 358
Sp.Def 256
Speed 349
HP 302/302

OT CHEVAR
ID NO 39189

Levitate

Nature Timid
Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto Region.

Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas

Dragon Pulse
Hidden Power
Psyshock
Surf

It's pokeball is a Dive Ball

dewey911p
19th August 2014, 6:50 PM
Hi guys I need help. I traded a long time ago but I just want to make sure this is legit.

Shiny Level 100 Latios

Name Latios
Attack 171
Defense 196
Sp. Atk 358
Sp.Def 256
Speed 349
HP 302/302

OT CHEVAR
ID NO 39189

Levitate

Nature Timid
Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto Region.

Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas

Dragon Pulse
Hidden Power
Psyshock
Surf

It's pokeball is a Dive Ball

CHEVAR is a known RNGer from Smogon, so the pokemon should be legal (HP Fire no doubt, probably with a 31/6/31/30/31/30 IV spread if I had to guess). There is always the possibility someone hacked one of his pokemon, but there is no way to know that for sure unless pokecheck or a related service ever comes online. Either way, the OT is a known RNGer so you should be safe in assuming it is legal.

On another note, good luck with your Feebas MM hunt!

SilverLanayru
24th August 2014, 4:14 AM
Whelp, requesting hack check again. Got this one from Wonder Trade.
Pretty sure this came from HGSS via Celadon Game Corner (and yes can be bred with Ditto, I believe), but I'm more suspicious of the OT because of the font/text.


Pokémon Species: Porygon-Z
Nickname: ポリゴンZ (Porygon-Z in Japanese)
OT: JOSH
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 31415
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
IV's: 31/x/31/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
Ability: Adaptability
Moves: Tri Attack / Dark Pulse / Psyshock / Nasty Plot
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 100
Stats: 312 / 156 / 176 / 369 / 186 / 306
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: No.
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: The Pokémon is tagged as Japanese, but the OT is not in blocky text. (For example, PC as opposed to PC.)

Tsukuyomi56
24th August 2014, 11:39 AM
Whelp, requesting hack check again. Got this one from Wonder Trade.
Pretty sure this came from HGSS via Celadon Game Corner, but I'm more suspicious of the OT because of the font/text.


Pokémon Species: Porygon-Z
Nickname: ポリゴンZ (Porygon-Z in Japanese)
OT: JOSH
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 31415
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
IV's: 31/x/31/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
Ability: Adaptability
Moves: Tri Attack / Dark Pulse / Psyshock / Nasty Plot
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 100
Stats: 312 / 156 / 176 / 369 / 186 / 306
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: No.
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: The Pokémon is tagged as Japanese, but the OT is not in blocky text. (For example, PC as opposed to PC.)
Not sure about the OT, but everything else seems fine (it is possible to RNG abuse for flawless shinies in the Gen 4 games).

FairyWitch
25th August 2014, 3:09 AM
Whelp, requesting hack check again. Got this one from Wonder Trade.
Pretty sure this came from HGSS via Celadon Game Corner, but I'm more suspicious of the OT because of the font/text.


Pokémon Species: Porygon-Z
Nickname: ポリゴンZ (Porygon-Z in Japanese)
OT: JOSH
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 31415
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
IV's: 31/x/31/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
Ability: Adaptability
Moves: Tri Attack / Dark Pulse / Psyshock / Nasty Plot
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 100
Stats: 312 / 156 / 176 / 369 / 186 / 306
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: No.
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: The Pokémon is tagged as Japanese, but the OT is not in blocky text. (For example, PC as opposed to PC.)

I feel a bit strange about this mon if it came from celedon city corner prize it wouldn't be shiny i am pretty sure that those can't be shiny so it has to be something else in that game which I don't think any other way to get it. I would say this one is a hack. I haven't rnged in awhile but im pretty sure shiny can't be obtained through the corner.

edit: wait a minute i forgot it could be breed with ditto so it may be legal but I am not sure which i ran through the reporter everything checks out atm but it may be a hack. I am not sure about the owner name. i hate how check is down for 4th and 5th gen checks i can't tell now as much who use to be the hacker and still is.

Golden_Latias
26th August 2014, 5:22 AM
Just traded for this Latias, and I want to see if it's legit. The ID of the Original Trainer and the fact that it was caught in a Pokeball make me a bit suspicious.

Pokémon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Ash
OT Gender: Unknown, probably male
IDno: 01337 (seriously, this can't be coincidence lol)
Shiny?: No
EV's: 31 HP/44 Attack/34 Defense/44 Speed/32 Sp. Defense/36 Sp. Attack
IV's: No idea, but that one guy said decent potential all around with greatest potential in HP
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball/Psychic/Rest/Charm
Level Caught at: Doesn't say
Current Level: 100
Stats: 286/180/221/241/278/218
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Hoenn Region.
Egg?: No
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: N/A

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I was just a little suspicious because of the ID of the OT and the fact that it was caught in a Pokeball, is all.

Tsukuyomi56
26th August 2014, 6:28 AM
Just traded for this Latias, and I want to see if it's legit. The ID of the Original Trainer and the fact that it was caught in a Pokeball make me a bit suspicious.

Pokémon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Ash
OT Gender: Unknown, probably male
IDno: 01337 (seriously, this can't be coincidence lol)
Shiny?: No
EV's: 31 HP/44 Attack/34 Defense/44 Speed/32 Sp. Defense/36 Sp. Attack
IV's: No idea, but that one guy said decent potential all around with greatest potential in HP
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball/Psychic/Rest/Charm
Level Caught at: Doesn't say
Current Level: 100
Stats: 286/180/221/241/278/218
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Hoenn Region.
Egg?: No
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: N/A

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I was just a little suspicious because of the ID of the OT and the fact that it was caught in a Pokeball, is all.
It is possible to catch a Latias in a Pokeball, but unfortunately the OT and ID is a known combination for a Pokemon that has been hacked.

QuoteMissy
26th August 2014, 6:29 AM
Just traded for this Latias, and I want to see if it's legit. The ID of the Original Trainer and the fact that it was caught in a Pokeball make me a bit suspicious.

Pokémon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Ash
OT Gender: Unknown, probably male
IDno: 01337 (seriously, this can't be coincidence lol)
Shiny?: No
EV's: 31 HP/44 Attack/34 Defense/44 Speed/32 Sp. Defense/36 Sp. Attack
IV's: No idea, but that one guy said decent potential all around with greatest potential in HP
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball/Psychic/Rest/Charm
Level Caught at: Doesn't say
Current Level: 100
Stats: 286/180/221/241/278/218
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Hoenn Region.
Egg?: No
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: N/A

Sorry if this sounds stupid, but I was just a little suspicious because of the ID of the OT and the fact that it was caught in a Pokeball, is all.

Although Latias can be caught in a default Pokeball, that OT: Ash ID:01337 is a hacker's combo that is as common as water.

EDIT: Well someone is a fast typer!

Shine
26th August 2014, 6:39 AM
I feel a bit strange about this mon if it came from celedon city corner prize it wouldn't be shiny i am pretty sure that those can't be shiny so it has to be something else in that game which I don't think any other way to get it. I would say this one is a hack. I haven't rnged in awhile but im pretty sure shiny can't be obtained through the corner.

This is wrong, a lot of people has obtained shinies from SR-ing the game corner prize. In Gen 4 and lower, all "in-game gift" Pokemon can be shiny.


The OT for that P-Z is indeed suspicious, though.

FairyWitch
26th August 2014, 6:49 AM
This is wrong, a lot of people has obtained shinies from SR-ing the game corner prize. In Gen 4 and lower, all "in-game gift" Pokemon can be shiny.


The OT for that P-Z is indeed suspicious, though.

like i said i haven't rnged 4th gen in like in a year so i forgot most of what can and can't be shiny but as i look back at my reporter again it is method 1 for game corner prizes so yes it can be shiny do to i can still search the shiny section of my reporter but the ivs and it being shiny puzzle me either it was rnged or hacked. I do as well think that OT is pretty suspicious but i can't get into check to figure out if he was on there or not anymore. I don't know but i feel more and more it is a hack though but i can't confirm it. I am sorry that it sounded like I was dead sure it was impossible to have it shiny its just been ages sense i rnged do to its so easy to iv breed now in x and y and most older gen mons are so priceless now to most people besides the legendaries that can not be obtained in x and y :/

Golden_Latias
26th August 2014, 6:50 AM
It is possible to catch a Latias in a Pokeball, but unfortunately the OT and ID is a known combination for a Pokemon that has been hacked.


Although Latias can be caught in a default Pokeball, that OT: Ash ID:01337 is a hacker's combo that is as common as water.

EDIT: Well someone is a fast typer!
I thought so. Just figured I should make sure. Thanks, both of you.

I'll just get rid of it, I guess.

QuoteMissy
26th August 2014, 7:00 AM
Whelp, requesting hack check again. Got this one from Wonder Trade.
Pretty sure this came from HGSS via Celadon Game Corner (and yes can be bred with Ditto, I believe), but I'm more suspicious of the OT because of the font/text.


Pokémon Species: Porygon-Z
Nickname: ポリゴンZ (Porygon-Z in Japanese)
OT: JOSH
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 31415
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: 6 HP / 252 SpAtk / 252 Speed
IV's: 31/x/31/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
Ability: Adaptability
Moves: Tri Attack / Dark Pulse / Psyshock / Nasty Plot
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 100
Stats: 312 / 156 / 176 / 369 / 186 / 306
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: No.
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: The Pokémon is tagged as Japanese, but the OT is not in blocky text. (For example, PC as opposed to PC.)

I looked up Porygon-Z's exact IVs: 31/9/31/31/31/31 and it's PID is 74714AF2, I ran an infinite search for that ID to have a seed with an SID to have that frame shiny, so far it has surpassed 10,000 delay (starting from 3,500) and it hasn't found ANY seed that would have it be shiny with that ID number.

EDIT: It has reached 25,000 now still no combo for that spread to be shiny with that ID. I believe I can safely assume this Porygon-Z is hacked.

ghohan5
26th August 2014, 10:02 PM
So I know there is a shiny Genesect event, and this one is exectly like that on every single point EXCEPT its name...

It matches the 2013 shiny genesect event, same level, OT, ID, ball, ribbon, item... everything. The only thing that is different is that its not called " ゲノセクト " Its just called Genesect.

Is this legit? I checked and it CAN be used in battle spot and all that stuff, so the game at least thinks its legit too. Just wanna make sure in case I ever want to trade it, don't want to trade a hacked pokemon.

SilverLanayru
26th August 2014, 11:07 PM
I looked up Porygon-Z's exact IVs: 31/9/31/31/31/31 and it's PID is 74714AF2, I ran an infinite search for that ID to have a seed with an SID to have that frame shiny, so far it has surpassed 10,000 delay (starting from 3,500) and it hasn't found ANY seed that would have it be shiny with that ID number.

EDIT: It has reached 25,000 now still no combo for that spread to be shiny with that ID. I believe I can safely assume this Porygon-Z is hacked.
Mmmm, definitely had my suspicions the moment I saw the OT. Looks like I'm gonna have to release this one, then. >.<
Thanks again, Quote! :3 And also thanks to the others who gave feedback!


So I know there is a shiny Genesect event, and this one is exectly like that on every single point EXCEPT its name...

It matches the 2013 shiny genesect event, same level, OT, ID, ball, ribbon, item... everything. The only thing that is different is that its not called " ゲノセクト " Its just called Genesect.

Is this legit? I checked and it CAN be used in battle spot and all that stuff, so the game at least thinks its legit too. Just wanna make sure in case I ever want to trade it, don't want to trade a hacked pokemon.
I believe another user posted a hack check for that particular Genesect sometime ago in this thread.
If I recall correctly, it was determined as hacked, because in 5th gen and before, there was no way to legitimately obtain a JPN-native event with an English name (except for a select few, but the Genesect isn't one of them). In 6th gen, this is now possible due to how we can set our game cartridges to a different language, but that's beside the point.

QuoteMissy
27th August 2014, 12:45 AM
So I know there is a shiny Genesect event, and this one is exectly like that on every single point EXCEPT its name...

It matches the 2013 shiny genesect event, same level, OT, ID, ball, ribbon, item... everything. The only thing that is different is that its not called " ゲノセクト " Its just called Genesect.

Is this legit? I checked and it CAN be used in battle spot and all that stuff, so the game at least thinks its legit too. Just wanna make sure in case I ever want to trade it, don't want to trade a hacked pokemon.


I believe another user posted a hack check for that particular Genesect sometime ago in this thread.
If I recall correctly, it was determined as hacked, because in 5th gen and before, there was no way to legitimately obtain a JPN-native event with an English name (except for a select few, but the Genesect isn't one of them). In 6th gen, this is now possible due to how we can set our game cartridges to a different language, but that's beside the point.

On top of what Silver said, even if someone ID abused their cart to re-name the event Genesect to it's english name they can't because of the 5 character limit in Japanese games before Gen 6.

ghohan5
27th August 2014, 11:26 AM
On top of what Silver said, even if someone ID abused their cart to re-name the event Genesect to it's english name they can't because of the 5 character limit in Japanese games before Gen 6.

OK thank you guys, good to know. I wont trade this away then. I love the shiny form, so I guess I'll just keep it for general Wi-fi battles ;)
I knew something was fishy, not only is it shiny and has the wrong name, but it also has like 6 Iv's. Kinda seemed to good to be true :P

Eevee918
28th August 2014, 12:31 AM
Hiya! Requesting hack check :D

Pokemon Species: Chikorita
Nickname: N/A
OT: Evgeny
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Can't tell.
IDno: 30604
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) No EVs.
IV's: (if known) Above Average Overall, Greatest Potential is Sp. Atk, and it's a 31.
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Overgrow
Moves: Tackle, Facade, Solar Beam, Energy Ball
Level Caught at: Level 1
Current Level: Level 1
Stats: 12/6/6/5/6/6
Location Caught: Unable to tell the exact location, but it says "Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?: Can't tell.
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: I got this from a friend. She didn't know whether it was a hack or not. I can't tell very much about it because i'm just receiving it now in gen 6.

Thank you!

SilverLanayru
28th August 2014, 12:38 AM
Hiya! Requesting hack check :D

Pokemon Species: Chikorita
Nickname: N/A
OT: Evgeny
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Can't tell.
IDno: 30604
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) No EVs.
IV's: (if known) Above Average Overall, Greatest Potential is Sp. Atk, and it's a 31.
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Overgrow
Moves: Tackle, Facade, Solar Beam, Energy Ball
Level Caught at: Level 1
Current Level: Level 1
Stats: 12/6/6/5/6/6
Location Caught: Unable to tell the exact location, but it says "Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?: Can't tell.
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: I got this from a friend. She didn't know whether it was a hack or not. I can't tell very much about it because i'm just receiving it now in gen 6.

Thank you!
Definitely hacked. Starters can't be in Master Balls (unless the ball was edited via powersaves).
And even if you were to catch one of the female Johto starters from Colosseum with a Master Ball, the Master Ball can't be passed down.

Miss Alexis
28th August 2014, 12:59 AM
Hello all I recently completed a trade getting the Sticker Promotional Kanto Starter Egg Events (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sticker_Promotional_Kanto_Starter_Eggs#Sticker_Pro motional_Kanto_Starter_Eggs) but they all have the OT of PPnet, not sure if that was considered a hack?

Pokemon Species: Bulbasaur
Nickname: Bulbasaur in Japanese
OT: PPnet (Text kind of Blocky)
OT Gender: unknown
IDno: 39279
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 31 in Def, 0 in Speed
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Overgrow
Moves: Block, False Swipe, Weather Ball, Frenzy Plant
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/5/6/6/6/5
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: In Unova yes
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: [JPN] tags, only thing is the OT: PPnet

Pokemon Species: Charmander
Nickname: Charmander in Japanese
OT: PPnet (Text kind of Blocky)
OT Gender: unknown
IDno: 39279
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 31 in Speed
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Block, False Swipe, Acrobatics, Blast Burn
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 11/5/6/6/6/6
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: In Unova yes
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: [JPN] tags, only thing is the OT: PPnet

Pokemon Species: Squirtle
Nickname: Squirtle in Japanese
OT: PPnet (Text kind of Blocky)
OT Gender: unknown
IDno: 39279
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 31 in HP
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Torrent
Moves: Block, False Swipe, Follow Me, Hydro Cannon
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/5/6/6/6/6
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: In Unova yes
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: [JPN] tags, only thing is the OT: PPnet

ghohan5
30th August 2014, 3:55 PM
Got this off a GTs trade ages ago. Posted a hack check a few days ago, and after that I realized, this guy is probably to good to be true as well.. Gonna check it at least.

Pokemon Species: Palkia
Nickname: Palkia
OT: Can't write it, Japanese name.
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Not like this in gen VI if I am not mistaken. Its white, like all other OT's.
IDno: 09163
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Sadly I used it a lot in battle, so no idea what it had when I got it :/
IV's: (if known) 6 31's
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Also changed by me.. :/
Level Caught at: Transfered from the Sinnoh region. When they are pokebanked, the level met no longer shows.
Current Level: Got it at level 70. (I leveled it to level 75)

Stats: CURRENT ( in level 75 ): HP 248 , attack 209 , defense 179 , Sp. Atk. 279 , sp. def 210 , speed 166

Location Caught: Once again, pokebanked, no way to tell.
Egg?: ..
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It has had pokerus, I did not infect it, so it already had it before I got it.

Lt. BLEU™
30th August 2014, 4:03 PM
Got this off a GTs trade ages ago. Posted a hack check a few days ago, and after that I realized, this guy is probably to good to be true as well.. Gonna check it at least.

Pokemon Species: Palkia
Nickname: Palkia
OT: Can't write it, Japanese name.
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Not like this in gen VI if I am not mistaken. Its white, like all other OT's.
IDno: 09163
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Sadly I used it a lot in battle, so no idea what it had when I got it :/
IV's: (if known) 6 31's
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Also changed by me.. :/
Level Caught at: Transfered from the Sinnoh region. When they are pokebanked, the level met no longer shows.
Current Level: Got it at level 70. (I leveled it to level 75)

Stats: CURRENT ( in level 75 ): HP 248 , attack 209 , defense 179 , Sp. Atk. 279 , sp. def 210 , speed 166

Location Caught: Once again, pokebanked, no way to tell.
Egg?: ..
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It has had pokerus, I did not infect it, so it already had it before I got it.

I'm not sure if Shiny Palkia is available at level less then 100. Also, caught in a normal Pokeball is what hurts most. There was a Shiny Palkia event but that was level 100 and Cherish ball.

ghohan5
30th August 2014, 4:07 PM
I'm not sure if Shiny Palkia is available at level less then 100. Also, caught in a normal Pokeball is what hurts most. There was a Shiny Palkia event but that was level 100 and Cherish ball.

Well palkia is NOT shiny locked, so if a person was to farm for one, it would be available. Ofc that is exactly what I was thinking as well, catch rate is very low- getting it in a pokeball? .. , shiny rates are low, also getting one with 6 IV's is rare.. All in all EXTREMLY unlikely... On the other hand, not impossible.

Anyone else who might be able to tell 100% if its legit or unlegit?

EDIT:


Wait, if it isn't shiny locked, we can easily RNG maybe? But Pokeball is surely something fishy.

Yeah its not shiny locked, checked most credible sources. Well yeah, but some people DO attempt to catch their pokemon in premiere balls/pokeballs, cuz it looks cooler or something. Not saying its likely, but once again, not impossible.
Btw, What do you mean RNG it?

Lt. BLEU™
30th August 2014, 4:08 PM
Well palkia is NOT shiny locked, so if a person was to farm for one, it would be available. Ofc that is exactly what I was thinking as well, catch rate is very low, shiny rates low, also getting one with 6 IV's is rare.. EXTREMLY unlikely... On the other hand, not impossible.

Anyone else who might be able to tell 100% if its legit or unlegit?

Wait, if it isn't shiny locked, we can easily RNG maybe? But Pokeball is surely something fishy.

Plx
30th August 2014, 4:41 PM
Pokemon Species: Latios
OT: 10 ANIV
IDno: 00010
Shiny?: No
EV's: 0
IV's: 1 perfect in special attack
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Luster Purge, Psychic, Recover, Dragon Dance
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 70
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: The main reason i'm suspicious is the lack of a fateful encounter flag. I am not sure if they had them back for this specific event which is why i'm posting it here.

dewey911p
30th August 2014, 5:32 PM
Got this off a GTs trade ages ago. Posted a hack check a few days ago, and after that I realized, this guy is probably to good to be true as well.. Gonna check it at least.

Pokemon Species: Palkia
Nickname: Palkia
OT: Can't write it, Japanese name.
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Not like this in gen VI if I am not mistaken. Its white, like all other OT's.
IDno: 09163
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Sadly I used it a lot in battle, so no idea what it had when I got it :/
IV's: (if known) 6 31's
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Also changed by me.. :/
Level Caught at: Transfered from the Sinnoh region. When they are pokebanked, the level met no longer shows.
Current Level: Got it at level 70. (I leveled it to level 75)

Stats: CURRENT ( in level 75 ): HP 248 , attack 209 , defense 179 , Sp. Atk. 279 , sp. def 210 , speed 166

Location Caught: Once again, pokebanked, no way to tell.
Egg?: ..
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It has had pokerus, I did not infect it, so it already had it before I got it.

There is no Quiet 31/31/31/31/31/31 spread in gen 4. Hacked.



Btw, What do you mean RNG it?

RNG stands for Random Number Generator and RNGing is a process by which a player abuses the in game RNG to get the pokemon they want. If you know how the RNG works, you can use the game in such a way that it returns the exact value you want, thus removing the "random" part of the RNG and just giving you the number you need. It's a bit of a complicated process to explain, but the tl;dr version is by starting the game at the right time, on the right day, a person can easily get shiny pokemon, 5-6IV pokemin, the right natured pokemon, or all of the above. If someone knows how to RNG then finding a shiny pokemon with 6 31 IVs and the right nature isn't that hard.


Wait, if it isn't shiny locked, we can easily RNG maybe? But Pokeball is surely something fishy.

Nothing suspicious about a pokeball really. The lvl 1 Palkia from Jhoto comes in a pokeball by default, and there is no reason anyone can't hurl endless pokeballs at a pokemon until it's caught, I did just that for a Shiny Terrakion in gen 5.

ghohan5
30th August 2014, 6:49 PM
There is no Quiet 31/31/31/31/31/31 spread in gen 4. Hacked.


Alright, thanks.

Question though, how can u possibly know that? Isn't Palkia an in game encounter, i.e, stats and natures are random as well? Couldn't u technically get 6 Iv's and that nature + shiny from just randomness?

Would appreciate an explanation, not that I don't take your word for it, just wondering cuz I honestly don't know.

dewey911p
30th August 2014, 7:19 PM
Alright, thanks.

Question though, how can u possibly know that? Isn't Palkia an in game encounter, i.e, stats and natures are random as well? Couldn't u technically get 6 Iv's and that nature + shiny from just randomness?

Would appreciate an explanation, not that I don't take your word for it, just wondering cuz I honestly don't know.

Not quite. In gen 4 the way the pokemon was generate by the game made the possible IV/nature combination limited. In gen 4 the PID (Pokemon Identification Number/Personal Identification Number, or sometimes even referred to as the pokemon's personality value, though "personality value" is hardly ever used any more) controlled the nature, IVs, ability, gender, and pretty much everything else about the pokemon. Since the IVs were linked to the PID this meant that it is literally impossible for certain IVs to show up with certain natures. There are only 4 valid hex-flawless spreads for genderless pokemon in gen 4, quiet isn't one of them. It wasn't until generation 5 that the PID and IVs were generated using separate RNGs and so it wasn't until generation 5 that a player could obtain any nature/IV combo (gen 4 eggs had 2 separate RNGs too, so the above really only applies to captured pokemon, not breed pokemon.)

computertrash
30th August 2014, 9:26 PM
My brother gave me this Celebi, as he already had two. He didn't know if its legit or anything. He didn't say how he got it but I know it wasn't his own R/S/E game.

Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: セレビイ
OT: アゲト
OT Gender: Cannot be determined
IDno: 31121
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) ???
IV's: (if known) The Judge in Kiloude City says greatest potential is Speed but not perfect.
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Likes to run
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Confusion; Recover; Heal Bell; Safeguard
Level Caught at: It was lv. 10 when my brother traded it to me
Current Level: 11
Stats: 45/31/27/28/26/30
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across time and space to the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It currently has Pokerus but is in the PC. It is from Japan. I'm not sure how to calculate EVs or IVs or anything.

SilverLanayru
30th August 2014, 10:20 PM
My brother gave me this Celebi, as he already had two. He didn't know if its legit or anything. He didn't say how he got it but I know it wasn't his own R/S/E game.

Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: セレビイ
OT: アゲト
OT Gender: Cannot be determined
IDno: 31121
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) ???
IV's: (if known) The Judge in Kiloude City says greatest potential is Speed but not perfect.
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Likes to run
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Confusion; Recover; Heal Bell; Safeguard
Level Caught at: It was lv. 10 when my brother traded it to me
Current Level: 11
Stats: 45/31/27/28/26/30
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across time and space to the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It currently has Pokerus but is in the PC. It is from Japan. I'm not sure how to calculate EVs or IVs or anything.
This is the Ageto Celebi from Pokémon Colosseum (though it can only be obtained in the Japanese bonus disc for the game).
I have one of these myself... but otherwise, it does look fine to me. Nothing out of the ordinary here.

Tsukuyomi56
30th August 2014, 10:20 PM
My brother gave me this Celebi, as he already had two. He didn't know if its legit or anything. He didn't say how he got it but I know it wasn't his own R/S/E game.

Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: セレビイ
OT: アゲト
OT Gender: Cannot be determined
IDno: 31121
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) ???
IV's: (if known) The Judge in Kiloude City says greatest potential is Speed but not perfect.
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Likes to run
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Confusion; Recover; Heal Bell; Safeguard
Level Caught at: It was lv. 10 when my brother traded it to me
Current Level: 11
Stats: 45/31/27/28/26/30
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across time and space to the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: It currently has Pokerus but is in the PC. It is from Japan. I'm not sure how to calculate EVs or IVs or anything.
It matches the Celebi obtained from the Japanese Pokemon Colosseum bonus disc, so it is legit.
Edit: Ninja'd.

computertrash
30th August 2014, 11:21 PM
Alright, thank you both. I've been thinking about this for a while now: I got a shiny Zorua from WT and it seems almost too good to be true.

Pokemon Species: Zorua
Nickname: Zorua
OT: ZEPHIRE
OT Gender: Cannot be determined; however, the profile pic from PSS looks to be male
IDno: 18997
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) ???
IV's: (if known) The Judge in Kiloude City says it has amazing potential overall. Mentions all stats and at the end, says they can't be beat. My older brother (who has been playing since R/B came out I think) says they're perfect.
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Illusion
Moves: Scratch; Nasty Plot; Night Daze; Agility
Level Caught at: I'm pretty sure it was received at level 1 or 2.
Current Level: 100 (please don't judge ok, I don't like how the evolution looks)
Stats: 274/168/125/208/132/199
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: The level at which it was received seems to suggest that it was hatched.
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: The OT ZEPHIRE matches the XY trainer Zephire, whom I got it from, so I assume it's the same person. Still unsure as to why they released it onto WT. It had Pokerus and has the little face icon instead of the word icon.

EDIT: Now I wonder where or who he'd gotten it from. Hmm.

Lt. BLEU™
31st August 2014, 6:49 AM
Alright, thank you both. I've been thinking about this for a while now: I got a shiny Zorua from WT and it seems almost too good to be true.

Pokemon Species: Zorua
Nickname: Zorua
OT: ZEPHIRE
OT Gender: Cannot be determined; however, the profile pic from PSS looks to be male
IDno: 18997
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) ???
IV's: (if known) The Judge in Kiloude City says it has amazing potential overall. Mentions all stats and at the end, says they can't be beat. My older brother (who has been playing since R/B came out I think) says they're perfect.
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Illusion
Moves: Scratch; Nasty Plot; Night Daze; Agility
Level Caught at: I'm pretty sure it was received at level 1 or 2.
Current Level: 100 (please don't judge ok, I don't like how the evolution looks)
Stats: 274/168/125/208/132/199
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: The level at which it was received seems to suggest that it was hatched.
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: The OT ZEPHIRE matches the XY trainer Zephire, whom I got it from, so I assume it's the same person. Still unsure as to why they released it onto WT. It had Pokerus and has the little face icon instead of the word icon.

EDIT: Now I wonder where or who he'd gotten it from. Hmm.

Looks legan on paper, maybe in-depth checking could say different but elseway it's legal.

-Illusionist
31st August 2014, 2:28 PM
Pokémon Species: Zekrom
Nickname: Zekrom
OT: Kareem
OT Gender: /
ID No.: 28970
Shiny?: No
EVs: few, randomly spread (just a rung in the Super Training progress bar)
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Teravolt
Moves: Dragon Breath | Thunder | Zen Headbutt | Fusion Bolt
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 51
Stats: 178/191/143/143/109/112
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Other notes: nothing (no ribbons or else). It would seem fine, but I'd like to know if anything about it (OT/IVs spread) raises a flag to you guys.


Also, I recently got a Ho-Oh off the GTS:


Pokémon Species: Ho-Oh
Nickname: Ho-Oh
OT: Pietro
OT Gender: /
IDno: 19364
Shiny?: No
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Speed/4 Def (508/510)
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Regenerator
Moves: Tailwind | Sacred Fire | Brave Bird | Earthquake
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: 353/359/217/230/344/306
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball
Other Notes: (my assumption) this is likely to be "quality" hack; the fact that it has precisely 508 EVs suggests it was created with a tool (after giving maximum investment, while leveling up, you would definitely get the last 2 EVs in battle; especially if the maximum level this Ho-Oh can be obtained at is just 40).
Dream Radar abuse is also incredibly hard to perform (I am not practical on the subject, but I read about it somewhere), and a hex flawless spread is suspicious to say the least.
Any lights?

Tsukuyomi56
31st August 2014, 10:47 PM
Pokémon Species: Zekrom
Nickname: Zekrom
OT: Kareem
OT Gender: /
ID No.: 28970
Shiny?: No
EVs: few, randomly spread (just a rung in the Super Training progress bar)
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Teravolt
Moves: Dragon Breath | Thunder | Zen Headbutt | Fusion Bolt
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 51
Stats: 178/191/143/143/109/112
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Other notes: nothing (no ribbons or else). It would seem fine, but I'd like to know if anything about it (OT/IVs spread) raises a flag to you guys.


Also, I recently got a Ho-Oh off the GTS:


Pokémon Species: Ho-Oh
Nickname: Ho-Oh
OT: Pietro
OT Gender: /
IDno: 19364
Shiny?: No
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Speed/4 Def (508/510)
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Regenerator
Moves: Tailwind | Sacred Fire | Brave Bird | Earthquake
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: 353/359/217/230/344/306
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball
Other Notes: (my assumption) this is likely to be "quality" hack; the fact that it has precisely 508 EVs suggests it was created with a tool (after giving maximum investment, while leveling up, you would definitely get the last 2 EVs in battle; especially if the maximum level this Ho-Oh can be obtained at is just 40).
Dream Radar abuse is also incredibly hard to perform (I am not practical on the subject, but I read about it somewhere), and a hex flawless spread is suspicious to say the least.
Any lights?
Zekrom looks legit as there is no issue with Nature and IVs in Gen 5 when RNG abusing assuming the OT and ID is not a known hacker's combination.
Ho-Oh however looks to be hacked, as I don't think it is possible to perform RNG abuse on Dream Radar Pokemon.
Edit: Ignore the comment on Ho-Oh, SilverLanaryu confirmed it is possible to RNG abuse for perfect Dream Radar Pokemon.

SilverLanayru
31st August 2014, 11:01 PM
Zekrom looks legit as there is no issue with Nature and IVs in Gen 5 when RNG abusing assuming the OT and ID is not a known hacker's combination.
Ho-Oh however looks to be hacked, as I don't think it is possible to perform RNG abuse on Dream Radar Pokemon.
I had a flawless Dream Radar Ho-oh checked with dewey911p. Coming from someone who is very knowledgeable on RNG abuse, he had stated that RNG abuse on Dream Radar Pokémon is possible.
That Ho-oh is more than likely legal on the surface. Nevermind, Quote comes to the rescue again. xP (Refer to below post.)
I really should try to look for more blacklists somewhere.

For my proof on Dream Radar RNG abuse, I found a guide on it: http://www.smogon.com/ingame/rng/pprng_gen5_09_dream_radar

QuoteMissy
1st September 2014, 12:26 AM
Pokémon Species: Ho-Oh
Nickname: Ho-Oh
OT: Pietro
OT Gender: /
IDno: 19364
Shiny?: No
EVs: 252 Atk/252 Speed/4 Def (508/510)
IVs: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Regenerator
Moves: Tailwind | Sacred Fire | Brave Bird | Earthquake
Level Caught at: /
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: 353/359/217/230/344/306
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: /
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball
Other Notes: (my assumption) this is likely to be "quality" hack; the fact that it has precisely 508 EVs suggests it was created with a tool (after giving maximum investment, while leveling up, you would definitely get the last 2 EVs in battle; especially if the maximum level this Ho-Oh can be obtained at is just 40).
Dream Radar abuse is also incredibly hard to perform (I am not practical on the subject, but I read about it somewhere), and a hex flawless spread is suspicious to say the least.
Any lights?

This Ho-Oh is VERY likely hacked as that OT/ID belongs to a known hacker.

-Illusionist
1st September 2014, 1:43 AM
Thanks to you all, but especially to QuoteMissy.
Hilariously, I usually type any OT and ID Number to see if anything pops up. If I had done so this time, I would have found that by myself (first result on the most popular research engine really made it clear).
Still not sure about the Zekrom, but it is most likely hacked (it is not even a proper stationary legend on B/W, so the OT would have to defeat it first and make it "respawn" - by beating the E4 and having no free room left, if I recall it right - to RNG it). An effort that not many people can bear.
That's why I was hoping someone here knew the Original Trainer; should anything come to your mind, let me know :)

dewey911p
1st September 2014, 1:54 AM
(it is not even a proper stationary legend on B/W, so the OT would have to defeat it first and make it "respawn" - by beating the E4 and having no free room left, if I recall it right - to RNG it). An effort that not many people can bear.

Not true. It was generated the same as any other stationary legend and you could RNG it right on the spot the very first time it appeared in N's Castle. In fact, Zekrom/Reshiram were super easy to RNG. Since they were shiny locked all you needed to do was abuse for the IVs and find the closest frame affected by synchronize. In practice this meant that a player would be able to use minimal effort to RNG Zekrom/Reshiram.

The OT doesn't look familiar to me, but nothing seems off about the Zekrom itself.

-Illusionist
1st September 2014, 2:14 AM
Oh, I see, I didn't recall it well then.
I thought that the cutscenes would be a problem: do you get so save right before the battle?
Thanks a ton anyway, I guess I'm going to keep it.
Right now, it is screaming for a Scarf

dewey911p
1st September 2014, 2:20 AM
Oh, I see, I didn't recall it well then.
I thought that the cutscenes would be a problem: do you get so save right before the battle?
Thanks a ton anyway, I guess I'm going to keep it.
Right now, it is screaming for a Scarf

Yeah, after the cut scene you can save, move around, access the menu to pull up Chatot, rearrange the lead to be a pokemon with Synchronize, etc.

Shine
2nd September 2014, 2:52 AM
Pokemon Species: Latios
OT: 10 ANIV
IDno: 00010
Shiny?: No
EV's: 0
IV's: 1 perfect in special attack
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Luster Purge, Psychic, Recover, Dragon Dance
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 70
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: The main reason i'm suspicious is the lack of a fateful encounter flag. I am not sure if they had them back for this specific event which is why i'm posting it here.

10 ANIV event doesn't have Fateful tag.





Hello all I recently completed a trade getting the Sticker Promotional Kanto Starter Egg Events (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sticker_Promotional_Kanto_Starter_Eggs#Sticker_Pro motional_Kanto_Starter_Eggs) but they all have the OT of PPnet, not sure if that was considered a hack?

Pokemon Species: Bulbasaur
Nickname: Bulbasaur in Japanese
OT: PPnet (Text kind of Blocky)
OT Gender: unknown
IDno: 39279
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 31 in Def, 0 in Speed
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Overgrow
Moves: Block, False Swipe, Weather Ball, Frenzy Plant
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/5/6/6/6/5
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: In Unova yes
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: [JPN] tags, only thing is the OT: PPnet

Pokemon Species: Charmander
Nickname: Charmander in Japanese
OT: PPnet (Text kind of Blocky)
OT Gender: unknown
IDno: 39279
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 31 in Speed
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Block, False Swipe, Acrobatics, Blast Burn
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 11/5/6/6/6/6
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: In Unova yes
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: [JPN] tags, only thing is the OT: PPnet

Pokemon Species: Squirtle
Nickname: Squirtle in Japanese
OT: PPnet (Text kind of Blocky)
OT Gender: unknown
IDno: 39279
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 31 in HP
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Torrent
Moves: Block, False Swipe, Follow Me, Hydro Cannon
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/5/6/6/6/6
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: In Unova yes
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: [JPN] tags, only thing is the OT: PPnet


OT PPnet apparently supposed to came from another site, from what I heard the site doesn't accept hacked stuffs so at first glance it looks fine, but maybe other people in here can spot something I didn't.

Tigers1980
2nd September 2014, 7:47 AM
^Being a member of that other site I can confirm that is where they come from and correct hacks are not accepted there. These were created for the members of the forums using a Japanese cart by the owner of the site with the OT being a sort of abbreviation of the site name.

ghohan5
2nd September 2014, 7:11 PM
So I was roaming the GTs when I came across a shiny groudon for a lugia, and I just insta sniped it xD

But in my experience, if it seems to good to be true, it probably is. Just wanna check it.

Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: LaPoe
OT Gender: Cannot be determined
IDno: 51731
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Max Atk/HP
IV's: (if known) 6 31's. (What made me doubt it being legit xD)
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drought
Moves: Lava Plume, Earthquake, Solar Beam, Flamethrower
Level Caught at: Crossed time and space in order to reach Kalos from the Hoenn Region..
Current Level: 100
Stats: 404/438/316/213/216/216
Location Caught: Crossed time and space in order to reach Kalos from the Hoenn Region..
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Well it was in the GTS for a level 10 Lugia, which is unobtainable I think. I actually had one cuz I saw one in the GTS randomly once, and grabbed it thinking something like this might happen. Reason I am mentioning this is that maybe the guy never actually thought it would be traded, maybe going a little towards it being legit, idk :P
(Wishful thinking xD)

Lt. BLEU™
2nd September 2014, 7:24 PM
So I was roaming the GTs when I came across a shiny groudon for a lugia, and I just insta sniped it xD

But in my experience, if it seems to good to be true, it probably is. Just wanna check it.

Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: LaPoe
OT Gender: Cannot be determined
IDno: 51731
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Max Atk/HP
IV's: (if known) 6 31's. (What made me doubt it being legit xD)
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drought
Moves: Lava Plume, Earthquake, Solar Beam, Flamethrower
Level Caught at: Crossed time and space in order to reach Kalos from the Hoenn Region..
Current Level: 100
Stats: 404/438/316/213/216/216
Location Caught: Crossed time and space in order to reach Kalos from the Hoenn Region..
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Well it was in the GTS for a level 10 Lugia, which is unobtainable I think. I actually had one cuz I saw one in the GTS randomly once, and grabbed it thinking something like this might happen. Reason I am mentioning this is that maybe the guy never actually thought it would be traded, maybe going a little towards it being legit, idk :P
(Wishful thinking xD)

Could be legal enough but RNG in gen 3 was difficult indeed and could be a good hack too. Can't be too sure but on paper: Legal!

ghohan5
2nd September 2014, 7:36 PM
Could be legal enough but RNG in gen 3 was difficult indeed and could be a good hack too. Can't be too sure but on paper: Legal!

Well great! Good that there are no instant red flags that like, jump out when u look at it. The last 2 shiny legendaries I got were both like that, so it sounds promising at least :D

dewey911p
2nd September 2014, 7:48 PM
Could be legal enough but RNG in gen 3 was difficult indeed and could be a good hack too. Can't be too sure but on paper: Legal!


Well great! Good that there are no instant red flags that like, jump out when u look at it. The last 2 shiny legendaries I got were both like that, so it sounds promising at least :D

Actually, it's hacked. There was no 31/31/31/31/31/31 adamant spread in gen 3/4.

On another note, Lugia can be obtained as low as lvl 5 via the dream radar. Asking for a low level Lugia like that was probably just their way of ensuring they got one with its hidden ability and not the regular one from HG/SS.

Khybon
5th September 2014, 6:09 AM
Pokemon Species:Riolu
Nickname:None
OT: Daemion
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Male
IDno: 17480
Shiny?:Yes
EV's: (if known) None
IV's: (if known) Flawless
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Takes plenty of Siestas
Ability:Prankster
Moves:High Jump Kick Blaze Kick Crunch and Bullet Punch
Level Caught at:1
Current Level:1
Stats:12/6/6/5/6/6
Location Caught:Egg Hatched Apperntly 7/30/14 at Lumiose City
Egg?:Yes
Pokeball Caught In:Luxury Ball
Any other notes?: Got it in the PS Wifi Room for a HA 5v Egg Move Turtwig

Tsukuyomi56
5th September 2014, 6:32 AM
Pokemon Species:Riolu
Nickname:None
OT: Daemion
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Male
IDno: 17480
Shiny?:Yes
EV's: (if known) None
IV's: (if known) Flawless
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Takes plenty of Siestas
Ability:Prankster
Moves:High Jump Kick Blaze Kick Crunch and Bullet Punch
Level Caught at:1
Current Level:1
Stats:12/6/6/5/6/6
Location Caught:Egg Hatched Apperntly 7/30/14 at Lumiose City
Egg?:Yes
Pokeball Caught In:Luxury Ball
Any other notes?: Got it in the PS Wifi Room for a HA 5v Egg Move Turtwig
Assuming the OT and ID number is not a known combination for a hacked Pokemon, the Riolu looks legit.

Lt. BLEU™
5th September 2014, 9:11 AM
Pokemon Species:Riolu
Nickname:None
OT: Daemion
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Male
IDno: 17480
Shiny?:Yes
EV's: (if known) None
IV's: (if known) Flawless
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Takes plenty of Siestas
Ability:Prankster
Moves:High Jump Kick Blaze Kick Crunch and Bullet Punch
Level Caught at:1
Current Level:1
Stats:12/6/6/5/6/6
Location Caught:Egg Hatched Apperntly 7/30/14 at Lumiose City
Egg?:Yes
Pokeball Caught In:Luxury Ball
Any other notes?: Got it in the PS Wifi Room for a HA 5v Egg Move Turtwig


Assuming the OT and ID number is not a known combination for a hacked Pokemon, the Riolu looks legit.

I don't know what makes you say legit. Legal is the word. Legit can only be said when you;ve obtained it on your own!

Leopoldos
8th September 2014, 2:43 PM
Pokemon Species:Meloetta
Nickname:None
OT: SPR2013
OT Gender: None
IDno: 03013
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) None
IV's: (if known) Flawless
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability:Serene Grace
Moves:Relic Song, Close Combat, Thunder, Ice Punch
Current Level:100
Stats:341/206/190/355/262/290
Location Caught:A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?:No
Ribbon: Wishing Ribbon
Pokeball Caught In:Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: I received from trade an eng Meloetta with perfect IV (6*31), although i did not see anything else curious, but i wonder... is this legit?

Lt. BLEU™
8th September 2014, 2:46 PM
Pokemon Species:Meloetta
Nickname:None
OT: SPR2013
OT Gender: None
IDno: 03013
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) None
IV's: (if known) Flawless
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability:Serene Grace
Moves:Relic Song, Close Combat, Thunder, Ice Punch
Current Level:100
Stats:341/206/190/355/262/290
Location Caught:A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?:No
Ribbon: Wishing Ribbon
Pokeball Caught In:Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: I received from trade an eng Meloetta with perfect IV (6*31), although i did not see anything else curious, but i wonder... is this legit?

Looks very much legal. 31 IVs will be the result of a RNG. So yeah, very much legal on paper.

SilverLanayru
10th September 2014, 3:49 PM
Requesting two hack-checks. xD
First, I got this Eevee from Wonder Trade last night. o.o
And second, I keep forgetting to get this Mewtwo hack-checked as well. It was cloned and traded to me many weeks ago, but I've been needing a couple of more opinions on this one.

Pokémon Species: Eevee
Nickname: Eevee
OT: Geo
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 25781
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: None.
IV's: 31/30/30/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Anticipation
Moves: Hyper Voice / Yawn / Fake Tears / Wish
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12 / 5 / 6 / 6 / 6 / 6
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Unova Region.
Egg?: Doesn't say, but judging by the level, it was likely hatched from an egg.
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: N/A

Pokémon Species: Mewtwo
Nickname: Mewtwo
OT: X
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 19430
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: None.
IV's: 31/31/31/1/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Bulk Up / Drain Punch / Psycho Cut / Mimic
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 70
Stats: 250 / 180 / 152 / 198 / 152 / 228
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Kanto Region.
Egg?: Nope.
Pokéball Caught In: Master Ball.
Any other notes?: I assume this came from FRLG, but I'm not very knowledgeable on 3rd gen RNG abuse. x:

Lt. BLEU™
10th September 2014, 3:55 PM
Requesting two hack-checks. xD
First, I got this Eevee from Wonder Trade last night. o.o
And second, I keep forgetting to get this Mewtwo hack-checked as well. It was cloned and traded to me many weeks ago, but I've been needing a couple of more opinions on this one.

Pokémon Species: Eevee
Nickname: Eevee
OT: Geo
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 25781
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: None.
IV's: 31/30/30/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Anticipation
Moves: Hyper Voice / Yawn / Fake Tears / Wish
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12 / 5 / 6 / 6 / 6 / 6
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Unova Region.
Egg?: Doesn't say, but judging by the level, it was likely hatched from an egg.
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: N/A

Pokémon Species: Mewtwo
Nickname: Mewtwo
OT: X
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 19430
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: None.
IV's: 31/31/31/1/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Bulk Up / Drain Punch / Psycho Cut / Mimic
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 70
Stats: 250 / 180 / 152 / 198 / 152 / 228
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Kanto Region.
Egg?: Nope.
Pokéball Caught In: Master Ball.
Any other notes?: I assume this came from FRLG, but I'm not very knowledgeable on 3rd gen RNG abuse. x:

While both seem legal on paper. A confirmation from dew etc people would be better. The Eevee is clearly a product of RNG.

Also, I haven't seen Agonist here for a long time now, has he changed his name or something?

dewey911p
10th September 2014, 10:27 PM
Requesting two hack-checks. xD
First, I got this Eevee from Wonder Trade last night. o.o
And second, I keep forgetting to get this Mewtwo hack-checked as well. It was cloned and traded to me many weeks ago, but I've been needing a couple of more opinions on this one.

Pokémon Species: Eevee
Nickname: Eevee
OT: Geo
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 25781
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: None.
IV's: 31/30/30/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Anticipation
Moves: Hyper Voice / Yawn / Fake Tears / Wish
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12 / 5 / 6 / 6 / 6 / 6
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Unova Region.
Egg?: Doesn't say, but judging by the level, it was likely hatched from an egg.
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: N/A

Pokémon Species: Mewtwo
Nickname: Mewtwo
OT: X
OT Gender: Cannot be determined.
IDno: 19430
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: None.
IV's: 31/31/31/1/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas.
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Bulk Up / Drain Punch / Psycho Cut / Mimic
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 70
Stats: 250 / 180 / 152 / 198 / 152 / 228
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Kanto Region.
Egg?: Nope.
Pokéball Caught In: Master Ball.
Any other notes?: I assume this came from FRLG, but I'm not very knowledgeable on 3rd gen RNG abuse. x:

Mewtwo is hacked, that spread/nature combo doesn't exist.

Geo is a well known OT, but I forget what he is well known for. I don't recall him being a hacker, but I think he RNG's on emulators, something that is (or at least was) frowned upon by the community when it comes to gen 5 abuse. Maybe that is why the OT seems to be a bit negative to my memory, but I can't recall exactly.




Also, I haven't seen Agonist here for a long time now, has he changed his name or something?

Life sucks, it keeps a lot of us busy :/ I'm sure Agonist pops on from time to time, as well as whatever-Darkray-calls-himself-here. They're probably just busy with school/work/life

SilverLanayru
10th September 2014, 10:57 PM
Mewtwo is hacked, that spread/nature combo doesn't exist.

Geo is a well known OT, but I forget what he is well known for. I don't recall him being a hacker, but I think he RNG's on emulators, something that is (or at least was) frowned upon by the community when it comes to gen 5 abuse. Maybe that is why the OT seems to be a bit negative to my memory, but I can't recall exactly.
Hnnng, what a shame. I had a feeling the Mewtwo was hacked, considering spread/nature combos were limited in Gen III. I don't think my boyfriend was unaware of it when he first got it from a trade, though I told him about this just now. Looks like we're gonna need to release this one, then.

And ahhh, I see. Hm, RNG abuse on emulators are kind of considered in the gray area in some aspects, which I can understand. But otherwise, noted.

Thanks for your feedback, dewey. :]

shenlon
11th September 2014, 11:48 PM
Hey All , I have completed the dex but before I put the official stamp on it , I wanted to check these 10 event Pokemon for Authenticity. These are the only one I did not catch myself or know the person who did. I originally traded for these on my Pokemon Black and then when Pokebank came out , I transferred them all into Y.



Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname:
OT: Hayley
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 01000
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to Run
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Synthesis/Return/Hypnosis/Teleport
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 166/Attack 113/Defense 116/Sp. Attack 117/Sp.Def 105/Speed 105
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Deoxys
Nickname:
OT: Dan
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 28321
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Quick to Flee
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Knock Off/Pursuit/Psychic/Swift
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 30
Stats: HP 70/Attack 99/Defense 39/Sp. Attack 112/Sp.Def 37/Speed 103
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?:



Pokemon Species: Manaphy
Nickname:
OT: Zephrax
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 03743
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Strongly Defiant
Ability: Hydration
Moves: Tail Glow/Bubble/Water Sport/Charm
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 10
Stats: HP 41/Attack 25/Defense 25/Sp. Attack 28/Sp.Def 27/Speed 23
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Regular Pokeball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Darkrai
Nickname:
OT: 2012MAY
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 05092
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Bad Dreams
Moves: Dark Void/Ominous Wind/Flash/Dream Eater
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 276/Attack 211/Defense 218/Sp. Attack 255/Sp.Def 209/Speed 276
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:




Pokemon Species: Shaymin
Nickname:
OT: Japanese Name
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 42978
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Highly Curious
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Growth/Magical Leaf/Leech Seed/Synthesis
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 31
Stats: HP 112/Attack 104/Defense 75/Sp. Attack 76/Sp.Def 63/Speed 71
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Timber Ball
Any other notes?: This is a Japanese Shaymin - Shaymin is in Japanese with the JPN Tag - Trainers Name is Japanese



Pokemon Species: Arceus
Nickname:
OT: TRU
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 11079
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Strongly defiant
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Judgement/Roar of Time/Spacial Rend/Shadow Force
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 358/Attack 258/Defense 259/Sp. Attack 233/Sp.Def 262/Speed 270
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Victini
Nickname:
OT: Movie14
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 12031
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Victory Star
Moves: V-create/Fusion Flare/Fusion Bolt/Searing Shot
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 173/Attack 110/Defense 113/Sp. Attack 118/Sp.Def 113/Speed 95
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Keldeo
Nickname:
OT: WIN2013
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 01163
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Docile
Characteristic: Impetuous and silly
Ability: Justified
Moves: Sacred Sword/Calm Mind/Hydro Pump/Toxic
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 70
Stats: HP 221/Attack 115/Defense 143/Sp. Attack 232/Sp.Def 146/Speed 219
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:



Pokemon Species: Meloetta
Nickname:
OT: SPR2013
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 03013
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: A little quick tempered
Ability: Serene Grace
Moves: Relic Song/Teeter Dance/Psychic/Close Combat
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 52
Stats: HP 176/Attack 108/Defense 93/Sp. Attack 141/Sp.Def 132/Speed 100
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Genesect
Nickname:
OT: Japanese Name
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 08112
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Somewhat of a Clown
Ability: Download
Moves: Techno Blast/Magnet Bomb/Solar Beam/Signal Beam
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 132/Attack 134/Defense 102/Sp. Attack 127/Sp.Def 109/Speed 115
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:

SilverLanayru
12th September 2014, 12:03 AM
Hey All , I have completed the dex but before I put the official stamp on it , I wanted to check these 10 event Pokemon for Authenticity. These are the only one I did not catch myself or know the person who did. I originally traded for these on my Pokemon Black and then when Pokebank came out , I transferred them all into Y.


Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname:
OT: Hayley
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 51601
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to Run
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Synthesis/Return/Hypnosis/Teleport
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 166/Attack 113/Defense 116/Sp. Attack 117/Sp.Def 105/Speed 105
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Deoxys
Nickname:
OT: Dan
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 28321
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Quick to Flee
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Knock Off/Pursuit/Psychic/Swift
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 30
Stats: HP 70/Attack 99/Defense 39/Sp. Attack 112/Sp.Def 37/Speed 103
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?:



Pokemon Species: Manaphy
Nickname:
OT: Zephrax
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 03743
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Strongly Defiant
Ability: Hydration
Moves: Tail Glow/Bubble/Water Sport/Charm
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 10
Stats: HP 41/Attack 25/Defense 25/Sp. Attack 28/Sp.Def 27/Speed 23
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Regular Pokeball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Darkrai
Nickname:
OT: 2012MAY
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 05092
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Bad Dreams
Moves: Dark Void/Ominous Wind/Flash/Dream Eater
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 276/Attack 211/Defense 218/Sp. Attack 255/Sp.Def 209/Speed 276
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:




Pokemon Species: Shaymin
Nickname:
OT: Japanese Name
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 42978
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Highly Curious
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Growth/Magical Leaf/Leech Seed/Synthesis
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 31
Stats: HP 112/Attack 104/Defense 75/Sp. Attack 76/Sp.Def 63/Speed 71
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Timber Ball
Any other notes?: This is a Japanese Shaymin - Shaymin is in Japanese with the JPN Tag - Trainers Name is Japanese



Pokemon Species: Arceus
Nickname:
OT: TRU
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 11079
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Strongly defiant
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Judgement/Roar of Time/Spacial Rend/Shadow Force
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 358/Attack 258/Defense 259/Sp. Attack 233/Sp.Def 262/Speed 270
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Victini
Nickname:
OT: Movie14
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 12031
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Victory Star
Moves: V-create/Fusion Flare/Fusion Bolt/Searing Shot
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 173/Attack 110/Defense 113/Sp. Attack 118/Sp.Def 113/Speed 95
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Keldeo
Nickname:
OT: WIN2013
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 01163
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Docile
Characteristic: Impetuous and silly
Ability: Justified
Moves: Sacred Sword/Calm Mind/Hydro Pump/Toxic
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 70
Stats: HP 221/Attack 115/Defense 143/Sp. Attack 232/Sp.Def 146/Speed 219
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:



Pokemon Species: Meloetta
Nickname:
OT: SPR2013
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 03013
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: A little quick tempered
Ability: Serene Grace
Moves: Relic Song/Teeter Dance/Psychic/Close Combat
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 52
Stats: HP 176/Attack 108/Defense 93/Sp. Attack 141/Sp.Def 132/Speed 100
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Genesect
Nickname:
OT: Japanese Name
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 08112
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Somewhat of a Clown
Ability: Download
Moves: Techno Blast/Magnet Bomb/Solar Beam/Signal Beam
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 132/Attack 134/Defense 102/Sp. Attack 127/Sp.Def 109/Speed 115
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:
All of them are fairly legal to me on the surface.
Although I cannot check the OTs on Deoxys, Manaphy, or Shaymin, someone correct me if I overlooked anything here.

Tsukuyomi56
12th September 2014, 4:35 AM
Hey All , I have completed the dex but before I put the official stamp on it , I wanted to check these 10 event Pokemon for Authenticity. These are the only one I did not catch myself or know the person who did. I originally traded for these on my Pokemon Black and then when Pokebank came out , I transferred them all into Y.



Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname:
OT: Hayley
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 51601
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to Run
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Synthesis/Return/Hypnosis/Teleport
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 166/Attack 113/Defense 116/Sp. Attack 117/Sp.Def 105/Speed 105
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Deoxys
Nickname:
OT: Dan
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 28321
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Quick to Flee
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Knock Off/Pursuit/Psychic/Swift
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 30
Stats: HP 70/Attack 99/Defense 39/Sp. Attack 112/Sp.Def 37/Speed 103
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?:



Pokemon Species: Manaphy
Nickname:
OT: Zephrax
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 03743
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Strongly Defiant
Ability: Hydration
Moves: Tail Glow/Bubble/Water Sport/Charm
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 10
Stats: HP 41/Attack 25/Defense 25/Sp. Attack 28/Sp.Def 27/Speed 23
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Regular Pokeball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Darkrai
Nickname:
OT: 2012MAY
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 05092
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Bad Dreams
Moves: Dark Void/Ominous Wind/Flash/Dream Eater
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 276/Attack 211/Defense 218/Sp. Attack 255/Sp.Def 209/Speed 276
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:




Pokemon Species: Shaymin
Nickname:
OT: Japanese Name
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 42978
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Highly Curious
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Growth/Magical Leaf/Leech Seed/Synthesis
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 31
Stats: HP 112/Attack 104/Defense 75/Sp. Attack 76/Sp.Def 63/Speed 71
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Timber Ball
Any other notes?: This is a Japanese Shaymin - Shaymin is in Japanese with the JPN Tag - Trainers Name is Japanese



Pokemon Species: Arceus
Nickname:
OT: TRU
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 11079
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Strongly defiant
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Judgement/Roar of Time/Spacial Rend/Shadow Force
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 358/Attack 258/Defense 259/Sp. Attack 233/Sp.Def 262/Speed 270
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Victini
Nickname:
OT: Movie14
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 12031
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Victory Star
Moves: V-create/Fusion Flare/Fusion Bolt/Searing Shot
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 173/Attack 110/Defense 113/Sp. Attack 118/Sp.Def 113/Speed 95
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Keldeo
Nickname:
OT: WIN2013
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 01163
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Docile
Characteristic: Impetuous and silly
Ability: Justified
Moves: Sacred Sword/Calm Mind/Hydro Pump/Toxic
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 70
Stats: HP 221/Attack 115/Defense 143/Sp. Attack 232/Sp.Def 146/Speed 219
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:



Pokemon Species: Meloetta
Nickname:
OT: SPR2013
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 03013
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: A little quick tempered
Ability: Serene Grace
Moves: Relic Song/Teeter Dance/Psychic/Close Combat
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 52
Stats: HP 176/Attack 108/Defense 93/Sp. Attack 141/Sp.Def 132/Speed 100
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Genesect
Nickname:
OT: Japanese Name
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno: 08112
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known)
Nature: Serious
Characteristic: Somewhat of a Clown
Ability: Download
Moves: Techno Blast/Magnet Bomb/Solar Beam/Signal Beam
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 132/Attack 134/Defense 102/Sp. Attack 127/Sp.Def 109/Speed 115
Location Caught: A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?:


Mew is hacked, the ID number of Hayley's Mew is 01000, not 51601. Everything else looks legal.