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shenlon
12th September 2014, 3:53 AM
I am so stupid , the ID is 01000 - 51601 is the ID of the Pokemon next to it in the box , I am not sure how that happened LOL must have hit the next button or something.

So I guess everything is Legit , well that is a relief ! Thank you =D

Rexlex
13th September 2014, 9:53 PM
Requesting tree hack-checks:


Pokémon Species: Latias
Nickname: Japanese name
OT: Japanese name
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 04534
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Psychic / Shadow Ball / Earthquake / Aerial Ace
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 100
Stats: 301 / 214 / 216 / 327 / 296 / 298
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Hoenn Region.
Egg?:
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: N/A


Pokémon Species: Butterfree
Nickname: Butterfree
OT: ANDREW
OT Gender: Male
IDno: 35534
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: (if known)
IV's: x/31/x/x/x/x (Relatively superior potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Lax
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: Compound Eyes
Moves: Bug Buzz / Silver Wind / Gust / Psybeam
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 45
Stats: 120 / 59 / 70 / 90 / 81 / 79
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: Doesn't say
Pokéball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: N/A


Pokémon Species: Gyarados
Nickname: Gyarados
OT: Justin
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 54924
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 31/x/x/x/x/x (Decent potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Hydro Pump / Hyper Beam / Ice Fang / Aqua Tail
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 52
Stats: 180 / 140 / 101 / 86 / 114 / 110
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: Doesn't say
Pokéball Caught In: Greatball
Any other notes?: N/A


Thanks in advance !!

Tsukuyomi56
14th September 2014, 12:02 PM
Requesting tree hack-checks:


Pokémon Species: Latias
Nickname: Japanese name
OT: Japanese name
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 04534
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31 (Outstanding potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Psychic / Shadow Ball / Earthquake / Aerial Ace
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 100
Stats: 301 / 214 / 216 / 327 / 296 / 298
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Hoenn Region.
Egg?:
Pokéball Caught In: Pokéball.
Any other notes?: N/A


Pokémon Species: Butterfree
Nickname: Butterfree
OT: ANDREW
OT Gender: Male
IDno: 35534
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: (if known)
IV's: x/31/x/x/x/x (Relatively superior potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Lax
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: Compound Eyes
Moves: Bug Buzz / Silver Wind / Gust / Psybeam
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 45
Stats: 120 / 59 / 70 / 90 / 81 / 79
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: Doesn't say
Pokéball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: N/A


Pokémon Species: Gyarados
Nickname: Gyarados
OT: Justin
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 54924
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 31/x/x/x/x/x (Decent potential according to IV judge.)
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Hydro Pump / Hyper Beam / Ice Fang / Aqua Tail
Level Caught at: Doesn't say.
Current Level: 52
Stats: 180 / 140 / 101 / 86 / 114 / 110
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: Doesn't say
Pokéball Caught In: Greatball
Any other notes?: N/A


Thanks in advance !!
Latias looks legal, but the other two seem a bit iffy as their characteristic does not match up with their IVs (a Pokemon with a perfect Attack IV would have the characteristic "Likes to trash about" and a Pokemon with a perfect HP IV would have the characteristic "Takes plenty of siestas").

Rexlex
14th September 2014, 7:24 PM
Thank you for your reply Tsukuyomi!!

I rechecked the two who seem iffy again with the IV judge, and it seems I made some mistakes, sorry :(.

The IV judge says that the butterfree's greatest potential lies in its Defense stat, "this Pokemon has some fantastic stats".

The IV judge says that the Gyarados greatest potential lies in its HP stat, "this Pokemon has some fantastic stats".

So I suppose their IV range is 26-30 for those stats, maybe these do match up?

Thank you for all your trouble!

Arbalest
15th September 2014, 6:48 AM
-snip-Latias is hacked, Characteristic doesn't match any legal PIDs.


Life sucks, it keeps a lot of us busy :/ I'm sure Agonist pops on from time to time, as well as whatever-Darkray-calls-himself-here. They're probably just busy with school/work/lifeLies, whatever-Darkray-calls-himself-here never pops on.
Unless he's bored and wants to laugh at some hacks.

WishIhadaManafi5
16th September 2014, 2:19 AM
I just got an interesting shiny Ho-Oh from the GTS. It's trainer no is familiar to me though (21583). So I figure it's a hack, but I want to double check to be sure.

Pokemon Species: Ho-Oh
Nickname: Ho-Oh in Japanese
OT: A three lettered name (in Japanese)
OT Gender: not sure
IDno: 21583
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) 31, 24, 18, 23, 31, 18
IV's: (if known) n/a
Nature: Calm
Characteristic: Throughly Cunning
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Thunderbolt, Flame Charge, Earthquake, Fly
Level Caught at: 70 (not sure, but I thought it might be an event one (http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/250.shtml) if it can be gotten shiny) -- particularly one from 2004 (Navel Island -- Japanese event)
Current Level: 92
Stats: HP 323, ATK 248, DEF 183, SP.ATK 232, SP. DEF 347, SPEED 189
Location Caught: Hoenn (A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.)
Egg?: nope
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: It's relatively superior in Attack, Sp. Atk, It has fantastic stats.

Checked the IV's and this came up:

Ho-oh Lv.92 does not compute!

The Sp.Defense stat, Effort Points, Characteristic or Best Stat are inaccurate.



I'll be double checking this one with a couple of other Pokémon I have.


Also, just checked in my old White version and came across a Ho-oh (another shiny) that's level 70 and has the exact same move set as a 2004 event one. So I think it might be legit. I'll have to trade it over to be sure though. But it seems promising,

QuoteMissy
16th September 2014, 2:22 AM
I just got an interesting shiny Ho-Oh from the GTS. It's trainer no is familiar to me though (21583). So I figure it's a hack, but I want to double check to be sure.

Pokemon Species: Ho-Oh
Nickname: Ho-Oh in Japanese
OT: A three lettered name (in Japanese)
OT Gender: not sure
IDno: 21583
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) 31, 24, 18, 23, 31, 18
IV's: (if known) n/a
Nature: Calm
Characteristic: Throughly Cunning
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Thunderbolt, Flame Charge, Earthquake, Fly
Level Caught at: 70 (not sure, but I thought it might be an event one (http://www.serebii.net/events/dex/250.shtml) if it can be gotten shiny) -- particularly one from 2004 (Navel Island -- Japanese event)
Current Level: 92
Stats: HP 323, ATK 248, DEF 183, SP.ATK 232, SP. DEF 347, SPEED 189
Location Caught: Hoenn (A fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.)
Egg?: nope
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: It's relatively superior in Attack, Sp. Atk, It has fantastic stats.

Checked the IV's and this came up:

Ho-oh Lv.92 does not compute!

The Sp.Defense stat, Effort Points, Characteristic or Best Stat are inaccurate.



I'll be double checking this one with a couple of other Pokémon I have.

try clearing out all it's EVs to get a better idea of it's IVs.

WishIhadaManafi5
16th September 2014, 2:49 AM
try clearing out all it's EVs to get a better idea of it's IVs.

How do I go about that? I've never cleared EV's before.

Edit: Just found out... cleared it out and this is what I got.

Ho-oh Lv.92 does not compute!
Speed (184) should be 195 to 223.
The Effort Points or Nature may be inaccurate.

It's IV's are 31, 24, 17, 23, 31, 18

It's EV's are 255, 204, 107, 203, 255, 108

Ghost94
16th September 2014, 3:58 PM
Is it legally possible to have a Gourgeist in a Dream Ball?

dewey911p
16th September 2014, 4:14 PM
Latias is hacked, Characteristic doesn't match any legal PIDs.

Lies, whatever-Darkray-calls-himself-here never pops on.
Unless he's bored and wants to laugh at some hacks.

See, told you they pop on from time to time :p


Is it legally possible to have a Gourgeist in a Dream Ball?

No.

QuoteMissy
16th September 2014, 8:50 PM
How do I go about that? I've never cleared EV's before.

Edit: Just found out... cleared it out and this is what I got.

Ho-oh Lv.92 does not compute!
Speed (184) should be 195 to 223.
The Effort Points or Nature may be inaccurate.

It's IV's are 31, 24, 17, 23, 31, 18

It's EV's are 255, 204, 107, 203, 255, 108

If the IV Judge in Kiloude say that HP and Sp.Def "Can't be better" and it has throughly cunning as it's characteristic then it's hacked. Flawless HP & Sp.Def alone will only have "Takes lots of siestas" or "Somewhat Vain" as characteristics.

WishIhadaManafi5
17th September 2014, 5:23 PM
If the IV Judge in Kiloude say that HP and Sp.Def "Can't be better" and it has throughly cunning as it's characteristic then it's hacked. Flawless HP & Sp.Def alone will only have "Takes lots of siestas" or "Somewhat Vain" as characteristics.

Thanks QuoteMissy.

I have one other on White version that I'll be posting to get checked. I thought it was hacked due to it being in a Master Ball originally... but I looked at it closer and it seems like it might be legit.

Pokemon Species: Ho-Oh
Nickname: Ho-Oh in Japanese
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: Blue (male)
IDno: 37042
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (before reset) 204, 202, 103, 160, 202, 103
IV's: (before reset) 24, 22, 13, 16, 22, 13
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Likes to fight
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Recover, Fire Blast, Sunny Day, Swift
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 70
Stats: 246, 226, 134, 160, 224, 132
Location Caught: not sure, but according to Serebii, if it's transferred it would say that the location would be either Hoenn or Kanto. It showed up as the latter.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: He's decent all around, best in Attack, fantastic in that regard.

Calculated the IV's and this is what showed up:

Ho-oh Lv.70 does not compute!
Speed (132) should be 148 to 170.
The Effort Points or Nature may be inaccurate.

Will try to reset to see if what's up. Just checked and I can't do it. Don't think I have the right berries to do so :(.

Just checked via characteristics and came up with something odd:

A little quick tempered 2 7 12 17 22 27
Likes to fight 3 8 13 18 23 28

Guess either they gave him a berry to lower his attack or he should have been A little quick tempered instead of Likes to fight. His ATTACK is at 22, not at 23. Hmm... *scratches head*

QuoteMissy
18th September 2014, 3:14 AM
Thanks QuoteMissy.

I have one other on White version that I'll be posting to get checked. I thought it was hacked due to it being in a Master Ball originally... but I looked at it closer and it seems like it might be legit.

Pokemon Species: Ho-Oh
Nickname: Ho-Oh in Japanese
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: Blue (male)
IDno: 37042
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (before reset) 204, 202, 103, 160, 202, 103
IV's: (before reset) 24, 22, 13, 16, 22, 13
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Likes to fight
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Recover, Fire Blast, Sunny Day, Swift
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 70
Stats: 246, 226, 134, 160, 224, 132
Location Caught: not sure, but according to Serebii, if it's transferred it would say that the location would be either Hoenn or Kanto. It showed up as the latter.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: He's decent all around, best in Attack, fantastic in that regard.

Calculated the IV's and this is what showed up:

Ho-oh Lv.70 does not compute!
Speed (132) should be 148 to 170.
The Effort Points or Nature may be inaccurate.

Will try to reset to see if what's up. Just checked and I can't do it. Don't think I have the right berries to do so :(.

Just checked via characteristics and came up with something odd:

A little quick tempered 2 7 12 17 22 27
Likes to fight 3 8 13 18 23 28

Guess either they gave him a berry to lower his attack or he should have been A little quick tempered instead of Likes to fight. His ATTACK is at 22, not at 23. Hmm... *scratches head*

If it's HP IV is greater than it's Attack IV it should have a characteristic pertaining to it's HP, if it has an Attack-noting characteristic when it's attack IV is less than it's HP IV then it's hacked (or you're off on the EVs).
The characteristic should be "likes to relax" not "likes to fight".

shenlon
20th September 2014, 10:08 PM
Legit Shiny Mew ?

I almost know the answer before I ask but if there is a small glimmer of hope of this being real.

Everything looks legit , though the ID Number of the event I can find is 10160. This one is 17430. That may make it fake , but everything looks legit. If it is a fake , it is a good fake.


There seems to be some argument if this event could be shiny , some say yes and some say no. So I come to you guys who I trust to give it to me straight.




Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname:
OT: FAL2010
OT Gender:
IDno: 17430
Shiny?: Yes
EV's:
IV's:
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Likes to fight
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Stone Edge/Overheat/Thunderbolt/Psychic
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 22
Stats: HP 78/Attack 55/Defense 55/Special Attack 53/Special Defense 47/Speed 55
Location Caught: A Fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: Has a Premier Ribbon

Kevin24
20th September 2014, 10:10 PM
hack indeed since id is wrong plus shiny. only mew that can be legally shiny is japanese faraway island mew

SilverLanayru
20th September 2014, 10:20 PM
Legit Shiny Mew ?

I almost know the answer before I ask but if there is a small glimmer of hope of this being real.

Everything looks legit , though the ID Number of the event I can find is 10160. This one is 17430. That may make it fake , but everything looks legit. If it is a fake , it is a good fake.


There seems to be some argument if this event could be shiny , some say yes and some say no. So I come to you guys who I trust to give it to me straight.




Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname:
OT: FAL2010
OT Gender:
IDno: 17430
Shiny?: Yes
EV's:
IV's:
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Likes to fight
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Stone Edge/Overheat/Thunderbolt/Psychic
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 22
Stats: HP 78/Attack 55/Defense 55/Special Attack 53/Special Defense 47/Speed 55
Location Caught: A Fateful encounter seems to have led it across space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: Has a Premier Ribbon
Yeah, basically what Kevin24 said, it's hacked.
To add to what he said, though... it was likely "shinified" via powersaves, because doing so changes the trainer's IDno.

Rainy Bluefoxie
21st September 2014, 2:45 AM
Pokemon Species: Zorua
Nickname: none
Ot: ONIZUKA
Gender: female
IDno: 27722
Shiny?:yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: I'm guessing none because all the rater says is it's greatest potential lies in its special attack stat. And that it has fantastic stats.
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: mischievous
Ability: Illusion
Moves: scratch, leer
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 1
Stats: Att/5 Defense/6 sp.att/6 sp.defense/6 speed/6
Location Caught:unova
Egg?: yes
pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes?: It's a French zorua that was transferred..
If you can provide a picture wi

Tsukuyomi56
21st September 2014, 4:14 AM
Pokemon Species: Zorua
Nickname: none
Ot: ONIZUKA
Gender: female
IDno: 27722
Shiny?:yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: I'm guessing none because all the rater says is it's greatest potential lies in its special attack stat. And that it has fantastic stats.
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: mischievous
Ability: Illusion
Moves: scratch, leer
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 1
Stats: Att/5 Defense/6 sp.att/6 sp.defense/6 speed/6
Location Caught:unova
Egg?: yes
pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes?: It's a French zorua that was transferred..
If you can provide a picture wi
Nothing seems wrong with it, so I think it is legal.

WishIhadaManafi5
21st September 2014, 4:36 AM
If it's HP IV is greater than it's Attack IV it should have a characteristic pertaining to it's HP, if it has an Attack-noting characteristic when it's attack IV is less than it's HP IV then it's hacked (or you're off on the EVs).
The characteristic should be "likes to relax" not "likes to fight".

Ah. I see.

Thanks QuoteMissy.

I'll double check to be sure.

TrainerMaria
22nd September 2014, 5:31 PM
Pokemon Species: Gliscor
Nickname: Gliscor
OT: Jayielleina
OT Gender: Cannot Determine
ID No.: 41979
Shiny: Yes
Evs: I think that I actually ended up retraining it but it wasn't abnornal looking. I can't remember the exact numbers but hp is max and the rest is split between special defense and attack.
IVs: all can't be beat according to the checker
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Poison Heal
Moves: knock off, acrobatics, earthquake, swords dance
Level Caught At: Hatched
Where is Lumiose City
Current Level: 62
Stats: Hp. 223 Atk. 157 Def. 196 Sp. Atk. 72 Sp. Def. 141 Spd. 142
Location Caught: Lumiose City
Egg: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Repeat Ball
Any Other Notes: I was data trading on the GTS when I got this. I was really surprised at first considering it's shiny and perfect Ivs. I'm not sure if I broke some unofficial rule data trading on the GTS or if they just didn't want it anymore. Now I'm wondering if it was maybe hacked. I don't know enough about hacked pokemon yet. Thanks ahead of time for any help on this.

Edit: Not sure if it helps at all but it does say Egg Hatched: Apparently 11/21/2013

dewey911p
22nd September 2014, 7:45 PM
Pokemon Species: Gliscor
Nickname: Gliscor
OT: Jayielleina
OT Gender: Cannot Determine
ID No.: 41979
Shiny: Yes
Evs: I think that I actually ended up retraining it but it wasn't abnornal looking. I can't remember the exact numbers but hp is max and the rest is split between special defense and attack.
IVs: all can't be beat according to the checker
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Poison Heal
Moves: knock off, acrobatics, earthquake, swords dance
Level Caught At: Hatched
Where is Lumiose City
Current Level: 62
Stats: Hp. 223 Atk. 157 Def. 196 Sp. Atk. 72 Sp. Def. 141 Spd. 142
Location Caught: Lumiose City
Egg: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Repeat Ball
Any Other Notes: I was data trading on the GTS when I got this. I was really surprised at first considering it's shiny and perfect Ivs. I'm not sure if I broke some unofficial rule data trading on the GTS or if they just didn't want it anymore. Now I'm wondering if it was maybe hacked. I don't know enough about hacked pokemon yet. Thanks ahead of time for any help on this.

Edit: Not sure if it helps at all but it does say Egg Hatched: Apparently 11/21/2013

This is in gen 5 yes? If so it's hacked. That OT name is too long.

FairyWitch
22nd September 2014, 7:55 PM
This is in gen 5 yes? If so it's hacked. That OT name is too long.

the hatching was in lumose city though that is the strange part dewey...so it couldn't of been in 5th gen but the name is pretty long

dewey911p
23rd September 2014, 1:04 AM
the hatching was in lumose city though that is the strange part dewey...so it couldn't of been in 5th gen but the name is pretty long

pfft, my bad, I didn't have any games with me and I got confused, I was thinking of Nimbasa for some reason. Sorry about that. Anyway, I think 12 characters is the gen 6 limit, so it should be in range. Looks okay on the surface, maybe a clone from an SV hatch. Sorry about the misinformation earlier.

QuoteMissy
23rd September 2014, 2:07 AM
Pokemon Species: Gliscor
Nickname: Gliscor
OT: Jayielleina
OT Gender: Cannot Determine
ID No.: 41979
Shiny: Yes
Evs: I think that I actually ended up retraining it but it wasn't abnornal looking. I can't remember the exact numbers but hp is max and the rest is split between special defense and attack.
IVs: all can't be beat according to the checker
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Poison Heal
Moves: knock off, acrobatics, earthquake, swords dance
Level Caught At: Hatched
Where is Lumiose City
Current Level: 62
Stats: Hp. 223 Atk. 157 Def. 196 Sp. Atk. 72 Sp. Def. 141 Spd. 142
Location Caught: Lumiose City
Egg: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Repeat Ball
Any Other Notes: I was data trading on the GTS when I got this. I was really surprised at first considering it's shiny and perfect Ivs. I'm not sure if I broke some unofficial rule data trading on the GTS or if they just didn't want it anymore. Now I'm wondering if it was maybe hacked. I don't know enough about hacked pokemon yet. Thanks ahead of time for any help on this.

Edit: Not sure if it helps at all but it does say Egg Hatched: Apparently 11/21/2013

I see this Gliscor around in various trade forums, so it's cloned around but otherwise legal.

LadyRinsun
23rd September 2014, 10:08 AM
Is it possible to check if a Pokémon's been cloned or not, other than having it caught by yourself?

dewey911p
24th September 2014, 12:34 AM
Is it possible to check if a Pokémon's been cloned or not, other than having it caught by yourself?

As of gen 5, no. The way cloning works was just like taking a file on your computer and copying and pasting it. It creates an exact copy and unless the OT keeps the original separate from the clone, the original would be indistinguishable from the clones. Pokemon cloned via pokecheck were given a premier ribbon to mark them as clones, but aside from those obvious ones, clones are indistinguishable.

I'm not sure if the cloning methods for gen 6 are different, but I would be willing to wager a large sum of money and say the process is the same and thus the clones are indistinguishable from the original. (What would be the point of cloning pokemon otherwise?)

Cosmic Fury
26th September 2014, 6:38 AM
I can confirm that last statement. As far as I can tell thus far, clones in 6th Gen (using the glitch at least) are completely indistinguishable from each other. To further build on what Dewey said about "conventional" cloning (using an AR, powersave, etc.), I've got details on how the current method works below... if you want to go through a wall of text.

In order for a trade to work, both games interact to send two separate Pokemon (as "files" of a sort) to one another. To complete the trade, each game overrides the file it just sent with the one it is receiving. After they receive the file, they delete the original file from their own system as a part of the trade. Long story short, they more or less copy/paste their own Pokemon to the other game and have the same thing done in return.

This is where we get to the glitch. It works by cutting off communications at the point where both games are still sending their Pokemon. If you turn off the game that you're using to send a Pokemon, you have to cut off communications AFTER both games send their files, and BEFORE the one being turned off receives the one belonging to the other system's. If you succeed, the other system thinks it's still sending its file, until it's already deleted said file from its system in return for the one it's getting from the game it's no longer communicating with. Thus, you end up with two copies of one Pokemon, and the one sent by the still-active game being deleted and "lost in the ether" for lack of a better phrase.

And there you have it -- the cloning glitch in all its digital glory.

Archstaraptor
26th September 2014, 9:21 PM
Was quite surprised to receive this.
It SEEMS legit...but who trades something like this holding the griseous orb away unless it's a clone or hack?And over wonder trade?

Pokemon Species:Charizard
Nickname:Alduin
OT:Ash
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) PKMN gender Male
IDno:01337
Shiny?:Yes
EV's: (if known)252 sp.atk/252,speed
IV's: (if known) 6IV perfect
Nature:modest
Characteristic:capable of taking hits
Ability:blaze
Moves:flamethrower / strength / cut / fly
Level Caught at:N/A
Current Level:100
Stats:HP:297/ Atk:183 / Def:192 / Sp.atk:348 / Sp.def:207 / Spe:299
Location Caught:Traveled across space and time in order to reach Kalos from Unova
Egg?:N/A
Pokeball Caught In:Pokeball

Any opinion appreciated :)

Kevin24
26th September 2014, 9:28 PM
Was quite surprised to receive this.
It SEEMS legit...but who trades something like this holding the griseous orb away unless it's a clone or hack?And over wonder trade?

Pokemon Species:Charizard
Nickname:Alduin
OT:Ash
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) PKMN gender Male
IDno:01337
Shiny?:Yes
EV's: (if known)252 sp.atk/252,speed
IV's: (if known) 6IV perfect
Nature:modest
Characteristic:capable of taking hits
Ability:blaze
Moves:flamethrower / strength / cut / fly
Level Caught at:N/A
Current Level:100
Stats:HP:297/ Atk:183 / Def:192 / Sp.atk:348 / Sp.def:207 / Spe:299
Location Caught:Traveled across space and time in order to reach Kalos from Unova
Egg?:N/A
Pokeball Caught In:Pokeball

Any opinion appreciated :)
hack that ot and id belong to hacks

achilles90
28th September 2014, 3:08 PM
Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: nope
OT: Hikaru
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 46394
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) 0 (Thanks reset punching bag)
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 237/132/132/118/132/145
Location Caught: Seems to have travelled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova Region.
Egg?: Not sure what the form is asking here.
Pokeball Caught In:standard pokeball
Any other notes?: Received this ditto from the wonder trade. So far I've had him sitting in the day care as my resident stud horse and so far haven't had any problems with my game or heard any problems from those I've traded bred pokemon with.


Pokemon Species: Deoxys
Nickname: no nickname
OT: Plasma
OT Gender: genderless
IDno: 05083
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known) 0/0/0/0/0/0
IV's: (if known) 15/10/23/25/22/4
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Highly Curious
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Nasty Plot / Dark Pulse / Recover / Psycho Boost
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 100
Stats: 225/315/128/330/127/309
Location Caught: blahblahblah... The Kalos Region from the Unova Region
Egg?: ???
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
Any other notes?: Again, received via wonder trade today.

Would like to hear your thoughts, particularly on the deoxys.

Thanks.

LLR
29th September 2014, 12:13 AM
Pokemon Species: Noibat
Nickname: Noibat
OT: Frankie
OT Gender: White
IDno: 44592
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known) unknown assumed 0
IV's: (if known) 31/x/x/31/x/x
Nature: Mild
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Frisk
Moves: Screech, Supersonic, Tackle and Tailwind
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/5/4/6/5/6
Location Caught: Hatched Route 7
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Moonball
Any other notes?: Recieved in trade several weeks ago. Just noticed that it was in a Moonball today.

dewey911p
29th September 2014, 2:23 AM
Pokemon Species: Noibat
Nickname: Noibat
OT: Frankie
OT Gender: White
IDno: 44592
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known) unknown assumed 0
IV's: (if known) 31/x/x/31/x/x
Nature: Mild
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Frisk
Moves: Screech, Supersonic, Tackle and Tailwind
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/5/4/6/5/6
Location Caught: Hatched Route 7
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Moonball
Any other notes?: Recieved in trade several weeks ago. Just noticed that it was in a Moonball today.

Hacked. Non-gen 4 pokemon in a gen 4 specific ball.

Tsukuyomi56
29th September 2014, 4:38 AM
Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: nope
OT: Hikaru
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 46394
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) 0 (Thanks reset punching bag)
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 237/132/132/118/132/145
Location Caught: Seems to have travelled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova Region.
Egg?: Not sure what the form is asking here.
Pokeball Caught In:standard pokeball
Any other notes?: Received this ditto from the wonder trade. So far I've had him sitting in the day care as my resident stud horse and so far haven't had any problems with my game or heard any problems from those I've traded bred pokemon with.


Pokemon Species: Deoxys
Nickname: no nickname
OT: Plasma
OT Gender: genderless
IDno: 05083
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known) 0/0/0/0/0/0
IV's: (if known) 15/10/23/25/22/4
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Highly Curious
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Nasty Plot / Dark Pulse / Recover / Psycho Boost
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 100
Stats: 225/315/128/330/127/309
Location Caught: blahblahblah... The Kalos Region from the Unova Region
Egg?: ???
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk Ball
Any other notes?: Again, received via wonder trade today.

Would like to hear your thoughts, particularly on the deoxys.

Thanks.
The event Plasma Deoxys comes in a Dusk Ball, so it is legal. Nothing seems wrong with the Ditto, so it looks legal assuming the OT/ID no is not a known hacker's combination.

Kevin24
29th September 2014, 12:09 PM
events with ribbons cannot be sent on wondertrade

serpent222
4th October 2014, 5:24 AM
Hopefully this can be a yes or no answer instead of a full on hack check.

I just traded someone for an English Diancie. But it doesn't appear that any of the english events happened yet. Has there been a legit way to get an english diancie, or did I just end up with a hack?

achilles90
4th October 2014, 7:59 AM
I'm 99% sure this is hacked, but I'd like to double check anyway.

Pokemon Species: Jirachi
Nickname: no nickname
OT: *** GAMMAG
OT Gender: genderless
IDno: 06738
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known) ?
IV's: (if known) ?
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Loves to eat
Ability: Serene Grace
Moves: Rest/Moonblast/Swift/Confusion
Level Caught at: 10
Current Level: 10
Stats: 40/25/27/25/25/22
Location Caught: PC Tohoku
Egg?: ???
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball
Any other notes?: Via wonder trade, no ribbons (btw I saw your post Kevin, very observant of you to pick up on that. I actually traded it from Black 2 and was wondering how much attention anyone pays. Good man!), originally learnt frustration and was holding a black sludge.

Tsukuyomi56
4th October 2014, 8:52 AM
I'm 99% sure this is hacked, but I'd like to double check anyway.

Pokemon Species: Jirachi
Nickname: no nickname
OT: *** GAMMAG
OT Gender: genderless
IDno: 06738
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known) ?
IV's: (if known) ?
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Loves to eat
Ability: Serene Grace
Moves: Rest/Moonblast/Swift/Confusion
Level Caught at: 10
Current Level: 10
Stats: 40/25/27/25/25/22
Location Caught: PC Tohoku
Egg?: ???
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball
Any other notes?: Via wonder trade, no ribbons (btw I saw your post Kevin, very observant of you to pick up on that. I actually traded it from Black 2 and was wondering how much attention anyone pays. Good man!), originally learnt frustration and was holding a black sludge.
Hacked, Jirachi cannot legally be obtained in a Dream Ball and Moonblast is illegal on non-shiny Jirachi.

tomatohater
4th October 2014, 9:58 AM
Pokemon Species: Tropius
Nickname: Bananasaur
OT: geoff
OT Gender: can't tell
IDno: 24758
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) Looks to be max HP and Special Defence
IV's: (if known) Flawless
Nature: Calm
Characteristic: Somewhat Vain
Ability: Harvest
Moves: Rest/Leaf Storm/Leech Seed/Air Slash
Level Caught at: ? (looks like it could have been bred)
Current Level: 100
Stats: 402/154/202/181/300/138
Location Caught: Travelled through space & time from Unova region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In:Pokeball
Any other notes?: Looks sort of legit, but I would like some opinions on it

blue8arman
4th October 2014, 11:43 AM
Pokemon Species: Xerneas
Nickname: Xerneas
OT: Caleb
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Can't tell.
IDno: 23092
Shiny?: No.
EV's: (if known) Seems max HP and Special Attack.
IV's: (if known) 31/x/31/31/31/31 (all 31 except Attack)
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Fairy Aura
Moves: Geomancy, Psyshock, Moonblast, Focus Blast
Level Caught at: 50
Current Level: 53
Stats: 243/128/122/212/125/129
Location Caught: Team Flare Secret HQ
Egg?: No.
Pokeball Caught In: Pokéball
Any other notes?: It has Pokérus. Caught when 6/25/2014

serpent222
4th October 2014, 10:30 PM
I'd still like to know if an English Diancie can be legit. But besides that, I have a new one to check:

Pokemon Species: Pikachu
Nickname: Pikachu
OT: In Japanese
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Can't tell.
IDno: 17547
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: (if known) Can't tell.
IV's: (if known) Can't tell, but none are 31.
Nature: Careful
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Static
Moves: Discharge, mega kick, thunder, electro ball
Level Caught at: 22
Current Level: 51
Stats: 103/69/50/62/69/113
Location Caught: An event site
Egg?: No.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: It has a classic ribbon.

achilles90
5th October 2014, 1:56 AM
I'd still like to know if an English Diancie can be legit. But besides that, I have a new one to check:

Pokemon Species: Pikachu
Nickname: Pikachu
OT: In Japanese
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) Can't tell.
IDno: 17547
Shiny?: Yes.
EV's: (if known) Can't tell.
IV's: (if known) Can't tell, but none are 31.
Nature: Careful
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Static
Moves: Discharge, mega kick, thunder, electro ball
Level Caught at: 22
Current Level: 51
Stats: 103/69/50/62/69/113
Location Caught: An event site
Egg?: No.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: It has a classic ribbon.

I would say hacked, because this pikachu looks like levelled up Atsuto Uchida Pikachu, except for the fact that the trainer ID doesn't match up. If it was legit, than the trainer ID would be 00022.

achilles90
5th October 2014, 2:02 AM
Hacked, Jirachi cannot legally be obtained in a Dream Ball and Moonblast is illegal on non-shiny Jirachi.

Yup, out of curiosity I hopped onto the GTS. Hacked, Jirachi, EVERYWHERE!

Gokufan
5th October 2014, 4:17 PM
I have a problem with Movie Diancie. It's stats and location are ok. But I wanted to know if it's possible that it has an English name (Diancie) and Japanese OT (ID:07194)?? It also doesn't have a "JAP" icon.

Kevin24
5th October 2014, 4:43 PM
yes it can. players start their game in another language besides their own and receive the event in that language

SlightlyWinged
16th October 2014, 8:12 AM
I'm pretty sure this is hacked, but you never know, right? It'd be great if someone could check it for me.

Pokemon Species: Rhyperior
Nickname: None
OT: Allie
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 51589
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not sure how to check this, sorry. :C
IV's: All six "can't be beat!", according to the Judge in Kiloude City. I'm assuming it's 6IV then?
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Solid Rock
Moves: Stone Edge, Earthquake, Megahorn, Rock Blast
Level Caught at: Level 1? It apparently hatched from an egg.
Current Level: Level 100
Stats: 371/347/296/131/146/116
Location Caught: None, it was hatched on Route 7.
Egg?: Yes, it was received as an egg on 10/15/2014, and hatched the same day.
Pokeball Caught In: Heavy Ball
Any other notes?: I received it as a shiny Rhydon over Wonder Trade. Apparently it had a Protector attached, as it evolved right after the trade. Also came with Pokerus.

I mean, it is possible someone bred a perfect, 6IV shiny Rhyhorn in an apricorn ball, trained it to Level 100 in a day, gave it Pokerus, then traded it over Wonder Trade with it's evolutionary item. But someone hacking it then trading it away seems more likely.

IrvinKnowsMagic
16th October 2014, 8:29 AM
Is it possible to get a Japanese Phantom Force Darkrai with an English Pokemon name? Everything else seems legit.

SilverLanayru
16th October 2014, 8:38 AM
Is it possible to get a Japanese Phantom Force Darkrai with an English Pokemon name? Everything else seems legit.
Yes, it's possible in this generation, as with Japanese copies of the game, you can still set your game to be played in English, and any Japanese events received would show with their English name instead. And I can also confirm vice versa, as I set my English Y version to be played in Japanese, and the English events I got had their Japanese name.

IrvinKnowsMagic
16th October 2014, 9:28 AM
I totally forgot about the language settings... thanks SilverLanayru!

Tsukuyomi56
17th October 2014, 1:24 AM
I'm pretty sure this is hacked, but you never know, right? It'd be great if someone could check it for me.

Pokemon Species: Rhyperior
Nickname: None
OT: Allie
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 51589
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not sure how to check this, sorry. :C
IV's: All six "can't be beat!", according to the Judge in Kiloude City. I'm assuming it's 6IV then?
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Solid Rock
Moves: Stone Edge, Earthquake, Megahorn, Rock Blast
Level Caught at: Level 1? It apparently hatched from an egg.
Current Level: Level 100
Stats: 371/347/296/131/146/116
Location Caught: None, it was hatched on Route 7.
Egg?: Yes, it was received as an egg on 10/15/2014, and hatched the same day.
Pokeball Caught In: Heavy Ball
Any other notes?: I received it as a shiny Rhydon over Wonder Trade. Apparently it had a Protector attached, as it evolved right after the trade. Also came with Pokerus.

I mean, it is possible someone bred a perfect, 6IV shiny Rhyhorn in an apricorn ball, trained it to Level 100 in a day, gave it Pokerus, then traded it over Wonder Trade with it's evolutionary item. But someone hacking it then trading it away seems more likely.
Assuming the OT/ID no is not a known hacker's combination, it looks legal.

Dragoniss
19th October 2014, 10:34 AM
I did some research into this myself to see if it's hacked and I honestly don't think it is, but I would rather be safe than sorry.

Pokemon Species: Eevee
Nickname: N/A
OT: Nikki
OT Gender: N/A [it's white]
IDno: 50080 [this kinda tipped me off]
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: None
IV's: 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 [The judge said it had outstanding potential and all six stats said they "couldn't be beat"]
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Somewhat Vain
Ability: Anticipation
Moves: Yawn / Covet / Charm / Wish
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12 / 5 / 6 / 6 / 6 / 6
Location Caught: Lumiose City
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Luxury Ball
Any other notes?: I got her through wonder trade earlier. It does have all six of the shapes filled in as well as a blue pentagon. I also went to the memory reader and it did have a memory of being hatched by it's owner and being traded to me. It was hatched on 9/11/2014. Here's a picture. (http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae271/bendoverdrek/20141018_230456_zps65198959.jpg?t=1413709332)

Either it's a really lucky wondertrade or an RNG or it's a hack. I can't tell.

Arande
19th October 2014, 1:39 PM
Assuming you meant hatched in luminose, I really dont' see anything blatantly wrong with it. Thanks to the destiny knot, 6v pokes really aren't that rare nowadays.

Shiny Rokon
21st October 2014, 5:42 AM
Pokemon Species: Ho-oh
Nickname: Ho-oh
OT: PPorg
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 25560
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained (has all stats raised a bit)
IV's: (if known) Perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Regenerator
Moves: Extrasensory, Weather Ball, Fly, Gust
Level Caught at: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Current Level: 27
Stats: 102, 92, 62, 65, 96, 62
Location Caught: (i'm assuming dream radar)
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: the dream radar pokeball
Any other notes?: I heard you can test if a pokemon is hacked by putting them on the GTS, so i put it on there for a minute and it accepted it, but still not sure if this proves it with previous generation pokemon. I also heard you can catch ho-oh as low as level 5 on the dream radar depending on the number of badges you have.

Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: Finom
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 14545
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) slightly in all, bit more in attack and speed, but not EV trained
IV's: (if known) Perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Drought
Moves: Eruption, Rest, Fissure, Solar Beam
Level Caught at: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Current Level:100
Stats: 346/345/320/265/221/203
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: haven't put this one on the GTS if that is a way to test it...

varanus_komodoensis
21st October 2014, 5:53 AM
Pokemon Species: Ho-oh
Nickname: Ho-oh
OT: PPorg
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 25560
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained (has all stats raised a bit)
IV's: (if known) Perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Regenerator
Moves: Extrasensory, Weather Ball, Fly, Gust
Level Caught at: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Current Level: 27
Stats: 102, 92, 62, 65, 96, 62
Location Caught: (i'm assuming dream radar)
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: the dream radar pokeball
Any other notes?: I heard you can test if a pokemon is hacked by putting them on the GTS, so i put it on there for a minute and it accepted it, but still not sure if this proves it with previous generation pokemon. I also heard you can catch ho-oh as low as level 5 on the dream radar depending on the number of badges you have.

Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: Finom
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 14545
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) slightly in all, bit more in attack and speed, but not EV trained
IV's: (if known) Perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Drought
Moves: Eruption, Rest, Fissure, Solar Beam
Level Caught at: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Current Level:100
Stats: 346/345/320/265/221/203
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: haven't put this one on the GTS if that is a way to test it...

Ho-Oh is hacked. Dream Radar Pokemon cannot be shiny, and the only way to get a level 20 Ho-Oh is from the Dream Radar.

I don't know about Groudon, but I am ALWAYS suspicious about shiny 6IV legendaries. They're almost never legitimate.

dewey911p
21st October 2014, 6:13 AM
Ho-Oh is hacked. Dream Radar Pokemon cannot be shiny, and the only way to get a level 20 Ho-Oh is from the Dream Radar.

I don't know about Groudon, but I am ALWAYS suspicious about shiny 6IV legendaries. They're almost never legitimate.

While I don't share your skepticism with regards to 5/6 IV'd legends, you are correct about that Groudon, 31/31/31/31/31/31 Quite is not a valid Gen 3/4 spread.

With regards to the OP of those two pokemon, Dream Radar pokemon can be obtained as low as lvl 5, that is correct. They can be RNGed too. I personally RNGed a few lvl 5 legends from the Dream Radar. With regards to testing the legality of pokemon by putting them on the GTS ... Nintendo sucks at hack checking, don't bother relying on them. I'm not really in the know when it comes to gen 6, but in gen 4/5 their hack checking was laughably depressingly terrible. Like I said, I'm no gen 6 expert, but from what I hear they haven't really improved in the hack checking department (that terribly hacked Ho-oh proves this to be true actually). If a pokemon is rejected from the GTS, then it's a terrible hack ... or failed the ridiculous name filter (can Weedle be offered on the GTS this generation? He was banned in gen 5 for having a "bad name"), but if a pokemon passes the GTS filter, well then you can't really tell if it is hacked or not from that.

Shiny Rokon
21st October 2014, 6:19 AM
So ho-oh definitely but groudon not sure but likely? Thank you for the fast reply :)

dewey911p
21st October 2014, 6:28 AM
So ho-oh definitely but groudon not sure but likely? Thank you for the fast reply :)

There's no doubt about it, they are both hacked. Like varanus_komodoensis said, Dream Radar pokemon cannot be shiny, and Ho-oh can only have the Regenerator ability from the Dream Radar. Any shiny Ho-oh below lvl 45 (the lowest lvl Ho-oh could be captured at in gen 4) or any shiny Ho-oh with the Regenerator ability are 100% hacked.

Groudon is equally hacked for the same basic reasons. That IV spread and nature combination did not exist in gen 3. There is no official pokemon game in existence that could generate either of those pokemon, and as such, those pokemon can only be generated by unofficial software external to any legit pokemon game. They were created external to the game and are, by definition, hacked.

Shiny Rokon
21st October 2014, 6:40 AM
Thank you so a 6 IV kyogre would fall into that same catagory? Can't believe how much hacking goes on!

dewey911p
21st October 2014, 2:51 PM
Thank you so a 6 IV kyogre would fall into that same catagory? Can't believe how much hacking goes on!

Not necessarily. Just because there is a hex-flawless shiny pokemon does not mean it is default hacked. It just so happens that that Groudon was hacked because it cannot legally exist. There are other spreads that can exist and 3 of those spreads happen to have favorable natures for Special attackers. a hex-flawless Shiny Kyorge isn't really all that rare, so long as it has a valid nature that is.

dirkac
21st October 2014, 3:05 PM
... Just so you all know, Dream radar Pokémon can be Shiny; why else wojld there be an entire RNG Guide on Smogon dedicated as ro how tk obtain the Shiny HA Legends from them.

QuoteMissy
21st October 2014, 3:37 PM
... Just so you all know, Dream radar Pokémon can be Shiny; why else wojld there be an entire RNG Guide on Smogon dedicated as ro how tk obtain the Shiny HA Legends from them.

No they cannot be shiny (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/read-me-tips-for-simple-hack-checks-please-for-the-love-of-god-read-the-op-first.3498670/) it says right in the bulletpoints, if Dream Radar Pokemon could be shiny it wouldn't be stated otherwise in their own Hack-Check thread.

their guide on Dream Radar abuse says NOTHING about how they can be shiny (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pprng-mac-ios.102901/#post-3411155)

shadow_razor
22nd October 2014, 2:33 AM
I was transferring old pokemon black boxes to my y version and noticed this very suspicious pokemon and I would like to know what you guys think

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: it's Japanese so I'm not sure
OT: it's in Japanese
OTV color: white
IDno:44986
Shiny?:yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: unknown
Nature:modest
Characteristic:Somewhat vain
Ability: Limber
Moves: transform
Level Caught at: 64
Current Level:64
Stats: atk.63 def.77 spatk. 90 spdef.86 spd. 76
Location Caught: giant chasm
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: ultra ball
Any other notes?: biggest red flag to me is that the trainer gender color is white

Miss Alexis
22nd October 2014, 2:36 AM
I was transferring old pokemon black boxes to my y version and noticed this very suspicious pokemon and I would like to know what you guys think

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: it's Japanese so I'm not sure
OT: it's in Japanese
OTV color: white
IDno:44986
Shiny?:yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: unknown
Nature:modest
Characteristic:Somewhat vain
Ability: Limber
Moves: transform
Level Caught at: 64
Current Level:64
Stats: atk.63 def.77 spatk. 90 spdef.86 spd. 76
Location Caught: giant chasm
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: ultra ball
Any other notes?: biggest red flag to me is that the trainer gender color is white

Trainer Gender color is suppose to be white in the newer games

shadow_razor
22nd October 2014, 3:10 AM
Even if it was originally from Gen 5?

varanus_komodoensis
22nd October 2014, 3:43 AM
Even if it was originally from Gen 5?

Yes, upon transferring to Gen VI, the trainer's gender changes to white. In order to properly hack-check your Ditto, you'll need to list the IVs and EVs. But just at a glance, it looks legal.

shadow_razor
22nd October 2014, 3:56 AM
Yes, upon transferring to Gen VI, the trainer's gender changes to white. In order to properly hack-check your Ditto, you'll need to list the IVs and EVs. But just at a glance, it looks legal.

Potential is above average overall, greatest potential is sp. Def simply can't be beat. EVs are practically non existent with a small amount spread to all stats but it doesn't even have 50 EVs total.

FairyWitch
22nd October 2014, 4:14 AM
... Just so you all know, Dream radar Pokémon can be Shiny; why else wojld there be an entire RNG Guide on Smogon dedicated as ro how tk obtain the Shiny HA Legends from them.

I don't know where you got the info that it can be shiny dream radars can't be shiny i remember reading the guide once never saw the guide saying that >.> I would read it agian if i where you.


I was transferring old pokemon black boxes to my y version and noticed this very suspicious pokemon and I would like to know what you guys think

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: it's Japanese so I'm not sure
OT: it's in Japanese
OTV color: white
IDno:44986
Shiny?:yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: unknown
Nature:modest
Characteristic:Somewhat vain
Ability: Limber
Moves: transform
Level Caught at: 64
Current Level:64
Stats: atk.63 def.77 spatk. 90 spdef.86 spd. 76
Location Caught: giant chasm
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: ultra ball
Any other notes?: biggest red flag to me is that the trainer gender color is white

oh the gender name is normally white in x and y which that is fine as of right now it looks legal to me

Divine Retribution
22nd October 2014, 4:06 PM
Pokemon Species: Landorus (Therian)
Nickname: Landorus
OT: Sasha
OTV color: White
IDno:53225
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: 0/0/0/0/0/0 (Reset with Reset bag)
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Sludge Bomb, Fly
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 319 - Attack: 358 - Defense: 216 - Sp. Atk: 221 - Sp. Def: 196 - Speed: 218
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Poke Ball
Any other notes?: Obviously either a hack or a product of RNG. I'm leaning towards a hack, since I seem to remember receiving other hacked Pokemon from the same OT/ID combo, but I'm not 100% sure so I'd like a second opinion.

dewey911p
22nd October 2014, 6:29 PM
Pokemon Species: Landorus (Therian)
Nickname: Landorus
OT: Sasha
OTV color: White
IDno:53225
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: 0/0/0/0/0/0 (Reset with Reset bag)
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, Sludge Bomb, Fly
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP: 319 - Attack: 358 - Defense: 216 - Sp. Atk: 221 - Sp. Def: 196 - Speed: 218
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Poke Ball
Any other notes?: Obviously either a hack or a product of RNG. I'm leaning towards a hack, since I seem to remember receiving other hacked Pokemon from the same OT/ID combo, but I'm not 100% sure so I'd like a second opinion.

I'm not familiar with the OT (and the pokecheck blacklist of old seems to have either moved or been taken down, either way I no longer have a link to it) but it appears fine on the surface. One possible hack checking thing you could try is to use the mirror and revert it to its original form. If it had its DW ability (Sheer Force) then it's hacked, but if it has its regular ability (Sand Force) then it looks legal on the surface.

Marsalevsky
25th October 2014, 5:08 PM
Here we go, I just got this off the GTS literally 5 seconds ago.

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Namie
OTV color: White
IDno:47374
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Appear to be all 0
IV's: x/31/x/31/x/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Surf, Recover, Shadow Ball
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 145/100/119/130/141/117
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: I'm typically suspicious of anything not from Kalos, due to how easy it was to hack in Pokemon.

lunistg
26th October 2014, 5:12 AM
Pokemon Species: Lapras
Nickname: can't read
OT: can't read
OT Gender: male
IDno: 28884
Shiny?: no
EV's: unknown
IV's: unknown but attack is red and sp. def is blue
Nature: naughty
Characteristic: takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Water Absorb
Moves:
sing
growl
water gun
ice shard

Level Caught at: egg received 10/1/2014, hatched 10/1/2014
Current Level: 11
Stats: att 29, def, 26, sp att 27, sp def 23, speed 21
Location Caught: hatched Lumiose city
Egg?: yes
Pokeball Caught In: moon ball
Any other notes?: got him in a wonder trade, concerned because it is marked as KOR which I guess means koreana nd I read somewhere that Korean games donbt connect without cheating, but also read that that was for previous gens...

QuoteMissy
26th October 2014, 5:12 AM
Here we go, I just got this off the GTS literally 5 seconds ago.

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Namie
OTV color: White
IDno:47374
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Appear to be all 0
IV's: x/31/x/31/x/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Surf, Recover, Shadow Ball
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 145/100/119/130/141/117
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: I'm typically suspicious of anything not from Kalos, due to how easy it was to hack in Pokemon.

1. If it's too good to be true then most likely it is especially if it's from the GTS/Wondertrade it's a popular place for people to get rid of their hacks (I know people that do this).
2. Can you tell us it's hidden power so we can calculate it's IVs correctly? Based off the stats it has 10-11/31/28-29/31/12-13/31 but the hidden power will help narrow down the results

Actually, scratch this, I googled it's OT/ID and it belongs to a known hacker (http://www.pokemongts.com/showthread.php?tid=74957), this OT/ID combo was reported on Smogon too (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/read-me-tips-for-simple-hack-checks-please-for-the-love-of-god-read-the-op-first.3498670/page-25#post-5477005).

Arbalest
26th October 2014, 5:16 AM
Here we go, I just got this off the GTS literally 5 seconds ago.

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Namie
OTV color: White
IDno:47374
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Appear to be all 0
IV's: x/31/x/31/x/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Surf, Recover, Shadow Ball
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 145/100/119/130/141/117
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: I'm typically suspicious of anything not from Kalos, due to how easy it was to hack in Pokemon.Hacked, OT matches one of the ones used by a fake GTS that used to spit out hacks (before previous generation wi-fi was shut down).

And it's not exactly any harder to hack in 6th gen than it was before, you should be suspicious because it's the GTS, not because it lacks a little blue pentagon.

QuoteMissy
26th October 2014, 5:25 AM
Pokemon Species: Lapras
Nickname: can't read
OT: can't read
OT Gender: male
IDno: 28884
Shiny?: no
EV's: unknown
IV's: unknown but attack is red and sp. def is blue
Nature: naughty
Characteristic: takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Water Absorb
Moves:
sing
growl
water gun
ice shard

Level Caught at: egg received 10/1/2014, hatched 10/1/2014
Current Level: 11
Stats: att 29, def, 26, sp att 27, sp def 23, speed 21
Location Caught: hatched Lumiose city
Egg?: yes
Pokeball Caught In: moon ball
Any other notes?: got him in a wonder trade, concerned because it is marked as KOR which I guess means koreana nd I read somewhere that Korean games donbt connect without cheating, but also read that that was for previous gens...

The colored stats just show which stats are affected by the nature and korean games can trade just fine in 6th gen (the issue was for 4th gen I believe), plus you can set your game to a different language than the region you bought it from and still have it count as foreign for Masuda Method. This just looks like a regular bred Lapras.

Marsalevsky
26th October 2014, 6:06 AM
Hacked, OT matches one of the ones used by a fake GTS that used to spit out hacks (before previous generation wi-fi was shut down).

And it's not exactly any harder to hack in 6th gen than it was before, you should be suspicious because it's the GTS, not because it lacks a little blue pentagon.
Aww, well that's a bit disappointing. And when I said harder, I meant that like there are fewer ways. I only know of the Powersaves device, but even that's really limited. And I do tend to be a bit suspicious really of all online-based trading. Way back when, I used to be all for hacking in Pokemon, but that kind of took away the fun really, so I stopped. I mean this generation, almost my entire Pokedex came from trading, as opposed to cheats in previous generations. It's also in part to competitive now. I prefer taking the time to breed a perfect-iv Pokemon, rather than just pop my game into a device, and select the codes for it.

Fissurous
26th October 2014, 5:50 PM
Hi guys, just a quick reminder to avoid personal opinions and giant assumptions so as to prevent confusion and unproductive debates. Thanks!

GrassBlade
27th October 2014, 9:50 PM
Pokemon Species:Entei
Nickname:none
OT:LEO
OT Gender: white
IDno:21420
Shiny?:yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: unknown since I don't have a reset bag to make sure I don't get the exact ivs wrong but none are perfect from what the iv judge says
Nature:Bold
Characteristic:Quick to flee
Ability:Pressure
Moves:Roar, Fire Spin, Stomp, Flamethrower
Level Caught at:unknown
Current Level:41
Stats:155/95/82/86/73/99
Location Caught:Seems to have traveled accross space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Jhoto region.
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In:Master Ball
Any other notes?:Seems legit but I am not sure how the language system works. It says it is from Germany though Entei's name is an English so I am guessing they played on a german 3ds and set the language to english.

ZiR
27th October 2014, 10:05 PM
Pokemon Species:Entei
Nickname:none
OT:LEO
OT Gender: white
IDno:21420
Shiny?:yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: unknown since I don't have a reset bag to make sure I don't get the exact ivs wrong but none are perfect from what the iv judge says
Nature:Bold
Characteristic:Quick to flee
Ability:Pressure
Moves:Roar, Fire Spin, Stomp, Flamethrower
Level Caught at:unknown
Current Level:41
Stats:155/95/82/86/73/99
Location Caught:Seems to have traveled accross space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Jhoto region.
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In:Master Ball
Any other notes?:Seems legit but I am not sure how the language system works. It says it is from Germany though Entei's name is an English so I am guessing they played on a german 3ds and set the language to english.

Virtually legal. Also, Entei is its "name" for every language game.

GrassBlade
27th October 2014, 10:41 PM
Thanks. Was not sure if it was supposed to have its name in german if it came from germany. Good to know. Anyways got a couple more-

Pokemon Species:Landorus (Therian Form)
Nickname:none
OT: P P o r g
OT Gender: White
IDno:52703
Shiny?:yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: all 31
Nature:mild
Characteristic:Capable of taking hits.
Ability:Intimidate
Moves:block, mud shot, rock tomb, imprison
Level Caught at:unknown
Current Level:14
Stats:53/49/30/41/31/34
Location Caught:Seems to have traveled accross space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: Dream ball
Any other notes?:none

Pokemon Species:Rayquaza
Nickname:none
OT: Felicia
OT Gender: White
IDno:31523
Shiny?:yes
EV's: none
IV's: 22-23/0-1/5-6/12-13/9-10/22-23
Nature:docile
Characteristic:Somewhat of a clown
Ability:Air Lock
Moves:Rest, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Outrage
Level Caught at:unknown
Current Level:51
Stats:179/158/99/164/101/113
Location Caught:Seems to have traveled accross space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Jhoto region.
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In:Master Ball
Any other notes?:none

QuoteMissy
27th October 2014, 10:43 PM
Thanks. Was not sure if it was supposed to have its name in german if it came from germany. Good to know. Anyways got a couple more-

Pokemon Species:Landorus (Therian Form)
Nickname:none
OT: P P o r g
OT Gender: White
IDno:52703
Shiny?:yes
EV's: unknown
IV's: all 31
Nature:mild
Characteristic:Capable of taking hits.
Ability:Intimidate
Moves:block, mud shot, rock tomb, imprison
Level Caught at:unknown
Current Level:14
Stats:53/49/30/41/31/34
Location Caught:Seems to have traveled accross space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region.
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: Dream ball
Any other notes?:none

Pokemon Species:Rayquaza
Nickname:none
OT: Felicia
OT Gender: White
IDno:31523
Shiny?:yes
EV's: none
IV's: 22-23/0-1/5-6/12-13/9-10/22-23
Nature:docile
Characteristic:Somewhat of a clown
Ability:Air Lock
Moves:Rest, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Outrage
Level Caught at:unknown
Current Level:51
Stats:179/158/99/164/101/113
Location Caught:Seems to have traveled accross space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Jhoto region.
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In:Master Ball
Any other notes?:none

Dream Ball Landorus cannot be shiny, the Dream Radar has anti-shiny measures on all pokemon originating from it.

EDIT:as for Rayquaza I did a google search on the OT/ID and found no notable results

GrassBlade
27th October 2014, 10:48 PM
Forgot about the Dream Radar measure. Thanks for checking.

LLR
29th October 2014, 4:51 PM
Pokemon Species: Milotic
Nickname: none
OT: Ghetsis
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) n/a
IDno: 33300
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) not known
IV's: (if known) x/x/31/x/0/x
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Marvel Scale
Moves: Hydro Pump; Attract; Safeguard; Aqua Ring
Level Caught at: not known
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 155, Attack 69, Defense 108, Special Attack 99, Special Defense 130, Speed 88.
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across time and space to reach Kalos from Sinnoh
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: Has a German language tag

2rsa
29th October 2014, 7:19 PM
Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: No Nickname
OT: Renee
OT Gender: White
IDno: 14577
Shiny?: No
EV's: No EVs
IV's: 31/x/31/x/x/31
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Recover/ Healbell/ Safegaurd/ Hold Back
Level Caught at: 10
Current Level: 10
Stats: 43/23/30/25/25/28
Location Caught: Pokemon Link
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Luxary Ball
Any other notes?: Has Classic ribbon
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Pokemon Species: Keldeo
Nickname: No Nickname
OT: SMR2012
OT Gender: White
IDno: 08272
Shiny?: No
EV's: No EVs (I used a reset bag)
IV's: Don't know but nothing like all 0 or all 30/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: Justified
Moves: Aqua jet/ secret sword/ double kick/ bubble beam
Level Caught at: don't know
Current Level: 17
Stats: 60/36/40/45/39/46
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish ball
Any other notes?: Has whishing ribbon

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Pokemon Species: Victini
Nickname: Victory
OT: BahamtX
OT Gender: White
IDno: 56256
Shiny?: No
EV's: No EVs
IV's: 31/x/31/x/x/x
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: victory star
Moves: psychic/ flamethrower/ shadowball/ thunderbolt
Level Caught at: don't know
Current Level: 15
Stats: 59/31/39/39/36/40
Location Caught: unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Luxary Ball
Any other notes?:

Thanks in advance! ^^

Mudkipz_Lulz
30th October 2014, 7:49 AM
Pokemon Species: Electivire
Nickname: Electivire
OT: Saleh
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 63868
Shiny?: No
EV's: Unknown
IV's: x/x/x/x/31/31
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Motor Drive
Moves: Thunder Wave / Electro Ball / Light Screen / Thunder Punch
Level Caught at: "Apparently Lv. 30"
Current Level: 30
Stats: 93/80/47/59/65/78
Location Caught: Friend Safari
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Repeat Ball
Any other notes?: It has the Kalos pentagon, it is level 30 and has two perfect IV's which matches it being caught in friend safari, but its date met is 3/24/2013..... that is before X and Y came out correct? Am I just missing something cause the date met is throwing me off?

Mazzriot
30th October 2014, 8:15 AM
Pokemon Species: Electivire
Nickname: Electivire
OT: Saleh
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 63868
Shiny?: No
EV's: Unknown
IV's: x/x/x/x/31/31
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Motor Drive
Moves: Thunder Wave / Electro Ball / Light Screen / Thunder Punch
Level Caught at: "Apparently Lv. 30"
Current Level: 30
Stats: 93/80/47/59/65/78
Location Caught: Friend Safari
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Repeat Ball
Any other notes?: It has the Kalos pentagon, it is level 30 and has two perfect IV's which matches it being caught in friend safari, but its date met is 3/24/2013..... that is before X and Y came out correct? Am I just missing something cause the date met is throwing me off?

If I'm correct you can change the date on your ds to match any date you want like making every day Christmas. The date met will match the day your ds is set to

Mudkipz_Lulz
30th October 2014, 3:02 PM
If I'm correct you can change the date on your ds to match any date you want like making every day Christmas. The date met will match the day your ds is set to


I figured it was either that or hacked, thanks!

SilverLanayru
30th October 2014, 6:23 PM
Pokemon Species: Milotic
Nickname: none
OT: Ghetsis
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) n/a
IDno: 33300
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) not known
IV's: (if known) x/x/31/x/0/x
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Marvel Scale
Moves: Hydro Pump; Attract; Safeguard; Aqua Ring
Level Caught at: not known
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP 155, Attack 69, Defense 108, Special Attack 99, Special Defense 130, Speed 88.
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across time and space to reach Kalos from Sinnoh
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: Has a German language tag
I'm not too knowledgeable on 4th gen stuff, but it does look legal for the most part.
Haven't found anything on the OT/ID, and I guess whoever is more knowledgeable on legal spreads might try to check that as well.
I'd say wait for more feedback, just in case.


Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: No Nickname
OT: Renee
OT Gender: White
IDno: 14577
Shiny?: No
EV's: No EVs
IV's: 31/x/31/x/x/31
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Recover/ Healbell/ Safegaurd/ Hold Back
Level Caught at: 10
Current Level: 10
Stats: 43/23/30/25/25/28
Location Caught: Pokemon Link
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Luxary Ball
Any other notes?: Has Classic ribbon
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Pokemon Species: Keldeo
Nickname: No Nickname
OT: SMR2012
OT Gender: White
IDno: 08272
Shiny?: No
EV's: No EVs (I used a reset bag)
IV's: Don't know but nothing like all 0 or all 30/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: Justified
Moves: Aqua jet/ secret sword/ double kick/ bubble beam
Level Caught at: don't know
Current Level: 17
Stats: 60/36/40/45/39/46
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish ball
Any other notes?: Has whishing ribbon

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Pokemon Species: Victini
Nickname: Victory
OT: BahamtX
OT Gender: White
IDno: 56256
Shiny?: No
EV's: No EVs
IV's: 31/x/31/x/x/x
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: victory star
Moves: psychic/ flamethrower/ shadowball/ thunderbolt
Level Caught at: don't know
Current Level: 15
Stats: 59/31/39/39/36/40
Location Caught: unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Luxary Ball
Any other notes?:

Thanks in advance! ^^
All of them look fairly legal.
The Celebi in a Luxury Ball is the one you get from Pokébank. Keldeo's details match the event Keldeo given in Black/White.
I didn't get anything when searching the OT/ID of Victini, but otherwise, it is most likely the one caught from the Liberty Garden event.

dislocate
1st November 2014, 8:55 AM
Pokemon Species:Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: BLUEMEW
OT Gender: White
IDno: 46014
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) 0
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/x/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Rest, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Outrage
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 50
Stats: 180/187/110/150/110/115
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Some black ball with gold trims
Any other notes?: got it from a wonder trade

Pokemon Species: Rotom
Nickname: Kenmore
OT: Andrew
OT Gender: White
IDno: 62567
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) 0
IV's: (if known) no perfect ones
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Astonish, Thunder Wave, Thunder Shock, Confuse Ray
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/6/6/7/6/6
Location Caught: a Day-Care Couple
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Standard Pokeball
Any other notes?: got it from the wonder trade

rins
1st November 2014, 11:27 AM
Pokemon Species: Jirachi
Nickname: ジラーチ
OT: たなばた
OT Gender: White
IDno: 08014
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: N/A
IV's: x/31/x/31/31/x
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Mischievious
Ability: Serene Grace
Moves:
-Wish
-Swift
-Healing Wish
-Moonblast
Level Caught at: 10
Current Level: 10
Stats:
HP 42
Attack 25
Defense 26
Sp Attack 28
Sp Def 28
Speed 28
Location Caught: Apparently a fateful encounter.
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: Has hidden power dark. I got this from a girl who claims it's legitimate in the forums and has no proof for it. My problem with this Jirachi is that its date matches the Powersave one, 8/1/14. This is the photo of the Jirachi. 13654
I would like opinions on this, any help is appreciated. Thank you.

Tsukuyomi56
1st November 2014, 12:58 PM
Pokemon Species:Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: BLUEMEW
OT Gender: White
IDno: 46014
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) 0
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/x/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Rest, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Outrage
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 50
Stats: 180/187/110/150/110/115
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Some black ball with gold trims
Any other notes?: got it from a wonder trade

Pokemon Species: Rotom
Nickname: Kenmore
OT: Andrew
OT Gender: White
IDno: 62567
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) 0
IV's: (if known) no perfect ones
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Astonish, Thunder Wave, Thunder Shock, Confuse Ray
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/6/6/7/6/6
Location Caught: a Day-Care Couple
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Standard Pokeball
Any other notes?: got it from the wonder trade
Assuming the OT/ID no are not a known hacker's combination, both Pokémon look legal.

Shine
1st November 2014, 1:24 PM
Pokemon Species:Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: BLUEMEW
OT Gender: White
IDno: 46014
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) 0
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/x/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Rest, Air Slash, Ancient Power, Outrage
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 50
Stats: 180/187/110/150/110/115
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Some black ball with gold trims
Any other notes?: got it from a wonder trade


This is actually a quite common one, back when Gen 4 GTS is still up, there's a fake GTS service that gives clones of RNG abused Pokemon, one of them is that Rayquaza.
I'm sure a lot of people out there have the same Rayquaza - I actually got one via trade as well, back when Gen 4 GTS is still up. They could also download a clone of it from Pokecheck back when it is still up, I recall seeing it there.

Anyway, the Pokemon is legal, you don't have to worry about it. Bluemew is a well-known RNG abuser.

dislocate
1st November 2014, 2:16 PM
so RNG abuse is considered legit?

Dergonu
1st November 2014, 5:34 PM
Pokemon Species: Landrous
Nickname: None
OT: Meme
OT Gender: Cant tell
IDno: 43568
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) Looks like its fairly evenly distributed among all the stats tbh.
IV's: (if known) 31HP/31Atk/31Speed/0Sp.Atk, idk the others. The judge says nothing about them, but he says the pokemon's potential is outstanding overall, so I would guess around 20+
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Sand Force
Moves: Earthquake/Superpower/Swords dance/substitue
Level Caught at: Banked from unova: Cant tell.
Current Level:100
Stats: 309/229/230/210/289
Location Caught:Banked from the unova region
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Looks like a Heal ball
Any other notes?: Got it in a trade a while back for a shiny Rotom.

GrassBlade
1st November 2014, 11:56 PM
Pokemon Species: Giratina
Nickname:none
OT: REESE
OT Gender: white
IDno: 01639
Shiny?: yes
EV's: none
IV's: Too low levelled for exact ivs but everything but sp. atk is 20-29
Nature: jolly
Characteristic: Good perseverence
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Dragon Breath, Scary Face, Ominous Wind, Ancient Power
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 10
Stats: 52/27/31/22/31/27
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled accross both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: none
Pokeball Caught In:Great Ball
Any other notes? From the description it seems to have came from the Sinjoh Ruins, but I am unable to find out whether a Giratina from there can be shiny or not.

dewey911p
2nd November 2014, 12:30 AM
Pokemon Species: Giratina
Nickname:none
OT: REESE
OT Gender: white
IDno: 01639
Shiny?: yes
EV's: none
IV's: Too low levelled for exact ivs but everything but sp. atk is 20-29
Nature: jolly
Characteristic: Good perseverence
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Dragon Breath, Scary Face, Ominous Wind, Ancient Power
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 10
Stats: 52/27/31/22/31/27
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled accross both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: none
Pokeball Caught In:Great Ball
Any other notes? From the description it seems to have came from the Sinjoh Ruins, but I am unable to find out whether a Giratina from there can be shiny or not.

The 3 dragons from the Sinjoh ruins event could be shiny, but they could not be caught. They were gift pokemon that came in a default pokeball. Since the one you posted is in a Great Ball that means, without a doubt, it is hacked.

Shine
2nd November 2014, 1:40 AM
Pokemon Species: Landrous
Nickname: None
OT: Meme
OT Gender: Cant tell
IDno: 43568
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) Looks like its fairly evenly distributed among all the stats tbh.
IV's: (if known) 31HP/31Atk/31Speed/0Sp.Atk, idk the others. The judge says nothing about them, but he says the pokemon's potential is outstanding overall, so I would guess around 20+
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Alert to Sounds
Ability: Sand Force
Moves: Earthquake/Superpower/Swords dance/substitue
Level Caught at: Banked from unova: Cant tell.
Current Level:100
Stats: 309/229/230/210/289
Location Caught:Banked from the unova region
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Looks like a Heal ball
Any other notes?: Got it in a trade a while back for a shiny Rotom.



I can't find anything about that OT & ID combination, so it looks fine.






so RNG abuse is considered legit?

Depends on the people you are asking. Some consider it merely legal, some consider it as legitimate. I can see why some people say legitimate, but I personally prefer legal.

Kybosh
3rd November 2014, 1:55 AM
Pokemon Species: Arceus
Nickname: アルセウス
OT: B l a c k
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 36572
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) ?
IV's: (if known) 29/18/10/20/11/17
Nature: Careful
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Recover, Hyper beam, Perish Song, Judgment
Level Caught at: 100?
Current Level:100
Stats: 379/263/255/238/281/262
Location Caught:Seems to have been first met in the Unova region
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball.
Any other notes?: Got in trade for a Diancie Code.

Razor Leafeon
3rd November 2014, 2:55 AM
Pokemon Species: Arceus
Nickname: アルセウス
OT: B l a c k
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 36572
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) ?
IV's: (if known) 29/18/10/20/11/17
Nature: Careful
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Recover, Hyper beam, Perish Song, Judgment
Level Caught at: 100?
Current Level:100
Stats: 379/263/255/238/281/262
Location Caught:Seems to have been first met in the Unova region
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball.
Any other notes?: Got in trade for a Diancie Code.
Seems legit. Looks like this is from the Japanese event for an Arceus from the dream world. You would go to catch it in the entralink then at level 100.

FairyWitch
3rd November 2014, 4:33 PM
Pokemon Species: Arceus
Nickname: アルセウス
OT: B l a c k
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 36572
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) ?
IV's: (if known) 29/18/10/20/11/17
Nature: Careful
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Multitype
Moves: Recover, Hyper beam, Perish Song, Judgment
Level Caught at: 100?
Current Level:100
Stats: 379/263/255/238/281/262
Location Caught:Seems to have been first met in the Unova region
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball.
Any other notes?: Got in trade for a Diancie Code.

It looks like the dream world arceus event as of right now that i see it looks legal.

Shrimp_8
4th November 2014, 6:00 AM
Pokemon Species: Regigigas
Nickname: Regigigas
OT:ASH
OT Gender: No idea
IDno: 00005
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not sure, looks well rounded, I can use a reset bag if that would help.
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Slow Start
Moves: Revenge, Giga impact, Crush Grip, Zen Headbutt
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 382/414/249/217/277/257
Location Caught: Unknown
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master ball
Any other notes?: Traveled across both space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.

I got this off wonder trade. I guess its possible it was RNG'd, but the OT/ID is what really throws me off. Thanks in advance! :)

SilverLanayru
4th November 2014, 6:17 AM
Pokemon Species: Regigigas
Nickname: Regigigas
OT:ASH
OT Gender: No idea
IDno: 00005
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not sure, looks well rounded, I can use a reset bag if that would help.
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Slow Start
Moves: Revenge, Giga impact, Crush Grip, Zen Headbutt
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 382/414/249/217/277/257
Location Caught: Unknown
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master ball
Any other notes?: Traveled across both space and time to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region.

I got this off wonder trade. I guess its possible it was RNG'd, but the OT/ID is what really throws me off. Thanks in advance! :)
This one is mostly likely hacked. Someone correct me in case I'm wrong, but if my memory serves, that nature and IV spread combination is illegal in 4th gen.

dewey911p
4th November 2014, 7:05 AM
that nature and IV spread combination is illegal in 4th gen.

Bingo .

Shrimp_8
4th November 2014, 7:55 AM
This one is mostly likely hacked. Someone correct me in case I'm wrong, but if my memory serves, that nature and IV spread combination is illegal in 4th gen.


Bingo .

Alright, thanks! I'll release him right away. :)

Prakhar
4th November 2014, 8:09 AM
Pokemon Species: Miltank
Nickname: Miltank
OT: Susie
OT Gender: No idea
IDno: 06669
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 31 in attack
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Thick Fat
Moves: Rollout, Body Slam, Zen Headbutt, Captivate
Level Caught at: No idea
Current Level: 35
Stats: 116/71/79/44/54/78
Location Caught: Travelled across both time and space to reach Kalos from Johto
Egg?: Dont know
Pokeball Caught In: Normal Pokeball
Any other notes?:

Tsukuyomi56
4th November 2014, 9:49 AM
Pokemon Species: Miltank
Nickname: Miltank
OT: Susie
OT Gender: No idea
IDno: 06669
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 31 in attack
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Thick Fat
Moves: Rollout, Body Slam, Zen Headbutt, Captivate
Level Caught at: No idea
Current Level: 35
Stats: 116/71/79/44/54/78
Location Caught: Travelled across both time and space to reach Kalos from Johto
Egg?: Dont know
Pokeball Caught In: Normal Pokeball
Any other notes?:
Nothing seems wrong with it, so I think it is legal.

computertrash
4th November 2014, 1:24 PM
Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: ミュウ
OT: ススム
OT Gender: (not provided/unknown)
IDno: 11219
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) didn't have any.
IV's: (if known) (unknown)
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Strong willed
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Pound
Level Caught at: (not provided)
Current Level: 5
Stats: HP 26, ATK 15, DEF 15, SP.ATK 13, SP.DEF 16, Speed 16
Location Caught: It stands it was transfered from Johto
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish i believe
Any other notes?:It's a Japanse Mew obviously lol, oh an it has a Ribbon called "Premier Ribbon: A Ribbon awarded for a special holiday.

somebody on TBT needed help.

ZiR
4th November 2014, 1:49 PM
Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: ミュウ
OT: ススム
OT Gender: (not provided/unknown)
IDno: 11219
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) didn't have any.
IV's: (if known) (unknown)
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Strong willed
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Pound
Level Caught at: (not provided)
Current Level: 5
Stats: HP 26, ATK 15, DEF 15, SP.ATK 13, SP.DEF 16, Speed 16
Location Caught: It stands it was transfered from Johto
Egg?:
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish i believe
Any other notes?:It's a Japanse Mew obviously lol, oh an it has a Ribbon called "Premier Ribbon: A Ribbon awarded for a special holiday.

somebody on TBT needed help.

Hacked for sure! The only kind of Mew which is able to be shiny is from japanese version of Pokemon Emerald. All the other events are supposed to be shiny locked, specially the ones released in 4th gen games like this one.

serpent222
4th November 2014, 3:47 PM
Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: ラティアス
OT: Can't replicate the characters, it's japanese
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 57678
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) None
IV's: (if known) 13 / 13 / 12 / 12 / 7 / 11
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Psycho Shift
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 146/91/101/121/138/120
Location Caught: Traveled across both space and time from the Hoenn Region.
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball.
Any other notes?: Has 3 ribbons. Sinnoh Champion Ribbon, Champion Ribbon, and Gorgeous Ribbon. Don't know if this can just indicate that it was used.

Deoxys Master 89
4th November 2014, 9:59 PM
This has probably been asked in the past but seeing as there's almost 450 pages I didn't check them all.

Someone has offered me a SHINY 10th Anniversary Latios from the 3rd Gen events. Can anyone confirm whether or not this is legal/legit, or a hack? I was under the impression that all 10th Anniversary events were locked to not being shiny.

CrusherTheFeraligatr
4th November 2014, 10:02 PM
This has probably been asked in the past but seeing as there's almost 450 pages I didn't check them all.

Someone has offered me a SHINY 10th Anniversary Latios from the 3rd Gen events. Can anyone confirm whether or not this is legal/legit, or a hack? I was under the impression that all 10th Anniversary events were locked to not being shiny.

http://www.pokebay.com/forums/showthread.php?5024-Pok%E9mon-that-can-NEVER-be-shiny-Don-t-allow-yourself-to-be-duped-)

This says they can't.

Miss Alexis
4th November 2014, 10:35 PM
I'm glad that I subscribed to this thread


http://www.pokebay.com/forums/showthread.php?5024-Pok%E9mon-that-can-NEVER-be-shiny-Don-t-allow-yourself-to-be-duped-)

This says they can't.

Looks like I should have done my research before accepting this trade. (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?627895-Asmoday-s-Battle-Ready-Trade-Thread!&p=17473391#post17473391)

Should I ask for a tradeback and report to a moderator? Or post in the blacklist?

CrusherTheFeraligatr
4th November 2014, 10:40 PM
I'm glad that I subscribed to this thread



Looks like I should have done my research before accepting this trade. (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?627895-Asmoday-s-Battle-Ready-Trade-Thread!&p=17473391#post17473391)

Should I ask for a tradeback and report to a moderator? Or post in the blacklist?

Try the tradeback/mod first. If they won't trade back, (And I'd ask a mod to make sure that source is true, though I'm sure it is), then go to a mod and get them black listed.

Fissurous
5th November 2014, 12:16 AM
Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: ラティアス
OT: Can't replicate the characters, it's japanese
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 57678
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) None
IV's: (if known) 13 / 13 / 12 / 12 / 7 / 11
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Psycho Shift
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 146/91/101/121/138/120
Location Caught: Traveled across both space and time from the Hoenn Region.
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball.
Any other notes?: Has 3 ribbons. Sinnoh Champion Ribbon, Champion Ribbon, and Gorgeous Ribbon. Don't know if this can just indicate that it was used.
Appears to be fine, it's probably the one you can find in Sapphire and Emerald. Finally trying my hand in this since I suck at remembering all these hack-rules and I need to get better :P.


Try the tradeback/mod first. If they won't trade back, (And I'd ask a mod to make sure that source is true, though I'm sure it is), then go to a mod and get them black listed.
This.

Deoxys Master 89
5th November 2014, 12:21 AM
I was asking about the 10th anniversary event because there was an article/forum post (different site) that I read that states that the shiny prevention system only had a single re-roll for the gen 3 events in case the PID can produce a shiny, making the odds of getting a second PID roll that produces a shiny astronomical. Has this been debunked, or merely considered not worth the risk of a hack?

EDIT: What should I do regarding the user that offered the trade? I've already notified him that it has almost certainly been confirmed as a hack, but he also claimed that he got it about 6 years ago from someone else who told him not to trade it so as not to devalue the rarity.

dewey911p
5th November 2014, 3:09 AM
I was asking about the 10th anniversary event because there was an article/forum post (different site) that I read that states that the shiny prevention system only had a single re-roll for the gen 3 events in case the PID can produce a shiny, making the odds of getting a second PID roll that produces a shiny astronomical. Has this been debunked, or merely considered not worth the risk of a hack?

EDIT: What should I do regarding the user that offered the trade? I've already notified him that it has almost certainly been confirmed as a hack, but he also claimed that he got it about 6 years ago from someone else who told him not to trade it so as not to devalue the rarity.

If i recall correctly Sabresite debugged the program that generated 10 ANNIV, as well as almost all other gen 3 events, and determined that the generation method didn't involve a re-roll in the event of a shiny, it simply skipped shiny PID frames in the same manner that the bonus Celebi from Colosseum was generated. As such, it was proven impossible for any known gen 3 event to be shiny. Even if the method invoked a re-roll, the odds of getting a shiny would be so astronomical, and the odds of that shiny surviving all of the generational shifts, and the odds of that shiny being offered for trade would amount to odds so staggering that you should just assume it is a hack.

This all came to light quite some time ago and right around the time I became distracted with real life stuff, so if Arbalest/Agonist/Hozu/Bond/Kaphotics/ProjectTitan or someone similar comes on and says otherwise, they would know a lot more about this subject they I would. But I'm pretty sure that was the result of Sabresite's work.

Fissurous
5th November 2014, 4:01 AM
Also, since I seem to be among knowledgeable company, I've read quite a few posts from users regarding shiny Distant Land Pokemon. Could anyone clarify what can and can not be shiny from XD and Colosseum? I'm pretty sure that only Colosseum Shadow Pokemon, PokeSpot Pokemon from XD/Colosseum, and the Eevee in XD can be shiny, but I honestly have no idea anymore (specifically the 2nd-generation starters from Mt. Battle, Lugia, etc). Also, can the OTs of Distant Land Pokemon ONLY be in capital letters? Is it possible to get any lowercase letter or Japanese characters in the OTs at all?

Arbalest
5th November 2014, 5:21 AM
Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: ラティアス
OT: Can't replicate the characters, it's japanese
OT Gender: n/a
IDno: 57678
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) None
IV's: (if known) 13 / 13 / 12 / 12 / 7 / 11
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Psycho Shift
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 146/91/101/121/138/120
Location Caught: Traveled across both space and time from the Hoenn Region.
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball.
Any other notes?: Has 3 ribbons. Sinnoh Champion Ribbon, Champion Ribbon, and Gorgeous Ribbon. Don't know if this can just indicate that it was used.If those IVs are accurate it's a hack, no such spread exists for that sort of capture.

computertrash
5th November 2014, 2:34 PM
Pokemon Species: Cloyster
Nickname: Cloyster
OT: White2
OT Gender: ???
IDno: 39051
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) atk 2; sp. def 2; sp 3
IV's: (if known) (according to the XY IV calculator) 2, 3 / 26, 27 / 28, 29 / 31 / 12 / 18, 19
Nature: Docile
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Skill Link
Moves: Aurora Beam, Poison Jab, Spikes, Icicle Crash
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 64
Stats: 139,143,253,133,70,106
Location Caught: Traveled across both space and time from the Unova Region.
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball.
Any other notes?: got it from wondertrade. the masterball is really throwing me off here.

Dayushka
5th November 2014, 7:23 PM
hi i would rly like to have these 3 pokemons checked up:

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: no
OT: Aaron
OT Gender: white
IDno: 04274
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known) decent all around, good attack
Nature: Calm
Characteristic: Proud of its power
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Water Sport, Refresh, Mist Ball, Zen Headbutt
Level Caught at: -
Current Level: 40
Stats:
HP - 120
Atk - 71
Def - 85
Sp.Atk - 96
Sp.Def - 122
Speed - 97
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach Kalos region from Johto region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: defaul one
Any other notes?: no

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: no
OT: 10ANIV
OT Gender: white
IDno: 00010
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known) decent all around, good HP
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Nods off a lot
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Fly, Psychic, Recover, Charm
Level Caught at: idk
Current Level: 70
Stats:
HP - 203
Attack - 124
Def - 142
SpAtk- 151
SpDef - 192
Speed - 177
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach Kalos region from Hoenn region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Default
Any other notes?: no

Pokemon Species: Kyurem
Nickname: idk its in Jap
OT: jap. name
OT Gender: white
IDno: 23944
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known) above average overall, fantastic speed stat
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Impetuous and silly
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Scary Face, Glaciate, Dragon Pulse, Imprison
Level Caught at: idk
Current Level: 70
Stats:
HP - 269
Attack - 182
Def - 148
SpAtk- 201
SpDef - 136
Speed - 156
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach Kalos region from Unova region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: no

I rly appreciate any help with these one and tyvm for any answer :)

AlaCritical Hit
5th November 2014, 7:30 PM
Pokemon Species: Pidove
Nickname: Pidove
OT: Mariah
OT Gender: Unknown
IDno: 55148
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Atk 252/Spe 252/HP 6
IV's: (if known) V/V/V/?/V/V
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Super Luck
Moves: Return/Night Slash/Hypnosis/Roost
Level Caught at: Hatched
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/7/6/4/5/6
Location Caught: Route 3
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Nest Ball
Any other notes?: It is a shiny perfect Pidove whose egg was obtained "From: a Link Trade". It's from the GTS so I don't trust it 100% anyway, but I'd like to know if this combination is any likely at all.

The Federation
5th November 2014, 8:14 PM
Pokemon Species: Pidove
Nickname: Pidove
OT: Mariah
OT Gender: Unknown
IDno: 55148
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) Atk 252/Spe 252/HP 6
IV's: (if known) V/V/V/?/V/V
Nature: Jolly
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Super Luck
Moves: Return/Night Slash/Hypnosis/Roost
Level Caught at: Hatched
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12/7/6/4/5/6
Location Caught: Route 3
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Nest Ball
Any other notes?: It is a shiny perfect Pidove whose egg was obtained "From: a Link Trade". It's from the GTS so I don't trust it 100% anyway, but I'd like to know if this combination is any likely at all.
Things like that are perfectly possible in X and Y. Not sure why anyone would go through all that trouble to get it, train it on that god forsaken balloon mingame, and then trade it on the GTS, but whatever.

AlaCritical Hit
5th November 2014, 8:20 PM
Things like that are perfectly possible in X and Y. Not sure why anyone would go through all that trouble to get it, train it on that god forsaken balloon mingame, and then trade it on the GTS, but whatever.

Sorry that I wasn't clear on this part before, but the fact that its egg was obtained from a Link Trade is what's really bothering me here. My prior knowledge was that once you trade an egg its shininess was reset, and I'm not sure if that has changed in 6th generation.

The Federation
5th November 2014, 8:24 PM
Sorry that I wasn't clear on this part before, but the fact that its egg was obtained from a Link Trade is what's really bothering me here. My prior knowledge was that once you trade an egg its shininess was reset, and I'm not sure if that has changed in 6th generation.
I WILL tell you that the link trade portion is also totally legit, because of the way TSVs and ESVs in this generation are so easy to obtain.

AlaCritical Hit
5th November 2014, 8:26 PM
I WILL tell you that the link trade portion is also totally legit, because of the way TSVs and ESVs in this generation are so easy to obtain.

I gotcha, thanks for the reply.

SilverLanayru
5th November 2014, 8:40 PM
Sorry that I wasn't clear on this part before, but the fact that its egg was obtained from a Link Trade is what's really bothering me here. My prior knowledge was that once you trade an egg its shininess was reset, and I'm not sure if that has changed in 6th generation.
Basically what The Federation said. But to add on to that for a little more clarity... in 6th gen, when the egg is generated with the day care man, everything including the IVs, TSVs, and ESVs are determined. It is likely that someone who originally obtained the egg traded it to someone who shared the same TSV as the Pidove egg itself and asked that person to hatch it. When a person shares the same TSV as the egg and he/she hatches it, it is guaranteed to hatch as a shiny. So in a sense, I don't believe the shininess resets when trading eggs in this generation.

FairyWitch
6th November 2014, 3:09 AM
Basically what The Federation said. But to add on to that for a little more clarity... in 6th gen, when the egg is generated with the day care man, everything including the IVs, TSVs, and ESVs are determined. It is likely that someone who originally obtained the egg traded it to someone who shared the same TSV as the Pidove egg itself and asked that person to hatch it. When a person shares the same TSV as the egg and he/she hatches it, it is guaranteed to hatch as a shiny. So in a sense, I don't believe the shininess resets when trading eggs in this generation.

that is correct when trading over a egg that someone has the same tsv value as the egg before hatched it will hatch shiny if it matches that persons tsv of course. Im sure that pidove was breed first and traded to someone that had the same tsv as the egg which makes the pidove is legal. In 6th generation it all about the tsv to match for the shiny value its like the new secret id of the game like bw and bw2 which works differently now that once the egg transfers over it will not reset being shiny which its all about if the egg matchs the tsv now.

Leopoldos
6th November 2014, 9:21 AM
Pokemon Species: Diancie
Nickname: Diancie
OT: えいがかん
OT Gender: Unknown
IDno: 07194
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/?/?/0
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Clear Body
Moves: Diamond Storm/Reflect/Return/Moonblast
Current Level:50
Date met: 7/23/2014
Stats: 125/120/153/114/163/60
Location Caught: Event
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: This Diancie have japanese OT and English name, although it don't have JPN grey symbol over left in 3ds screen.

Requiem Aeternam
6th November 2014, 11:57 AM
Pokemon Species: Diancie
Nickname: Diancie
OT: えいがかん
OT Gender: Unknown
IDno: 07194
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known)
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/?/?/0
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Clear Body
Moves: Diamond Storm/Reflect/Return/Moonblast
Current Level:50
Date met: 7/23/2014
Stats: 125/120/153/114/163/60
Location Caught: Event
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball
Any other notes?: This Diancie have japanese OT and English name, although it don't have JPN grey symbol over left in 3ds screen.

I don't see anything wrong with it. It looks like someone playing the Japanese version of the game had the game's language set to English when they picked up the Diancie, which is why it still has the Japanese OT but an English name. The reason it doesn't have the JPN tag is because the language was set to English. I play my UK Y in Japanese and all the Pokemon I get off that have the JPN tag, so the language of the Pokemon is dependant on the language the player chooses, not where the game was originally from. I also got the PokeBall Vivillon on my Y and, while it's named ビビヨン and has the JPN tag, the OT is still SUM2014, meaning that the OT is dependant on the region the game was purchased, not the player's chosen language.

computertrash
6th November 2014, 2:30 PM
Pokemon Species: Cloyster
Nickname: Cloyster
OT: White2
OT Gender: ???
IDno: 39051
Shiny?: No
EV's: (if known) atk 2; sp. def 2; sp 3
IV's: (if known) (according to the XY IV calculator) 2, 3 / 26, 27 / 28, 29 / 31 / 12 / 18, 19
Nature: Docile
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Skill Link
Moves: Aurora Beam, Poison Jab, Spikes, Icicle Crash
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 64
Stats: 139,143,253,133,70,106
Location Caught: Traveled across both space and time from the Unova Region.
Egg?:No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball.
Any other notes?: got it from wondertrade. the masterball is really throwing me off here.

id still like help with this.

The Federation
6th November 2014, 3:29 PM
id still like help with this.
The only thing that's questionable is the gender, I have no idea what ??? gender means in the game's code or why it would report it like that. Everything else is legitimate.

Miss Alexis
6th November 2014, 3:39 PM
id still like help with this.

I wouldn't be able to tell you for sure because its fine other then the master ball I highly doubt the Pokemon is a hack but it is slightly possible. What I think happened is someone was using the 900 item cheat on their bw/b2w2 cartridges using the action replay, then went completing the Dex master all chucking every Pokemon that popped up.
If it was shiny in that master ball then it would definitely be a hack as most of them are
I've heard stories though of those unlucky trainers who come across shiny Pokemon who ran out of pokeballs so had no choice but to use the master ball..

computertrash
6th November 2014, 3:43 PM
The only thing that's questionable is the gender, I have no idea what ??? gender means in the game's code or why it would report it like that. Everything else is legitimate.

thats the OT gender. its like impossible to determine OT gender in XY.

The Federation
6th November 2014, 6:13 PM
thats the OT gender. its like impossible to determine OT gender in XY.
Ahh, that's right. I was under the impression that, well... I don't know what I thought really, something along the lines of it literally having ??? somewhere on the card xD

It's totally legit, not hacked at all. Asmo is right that it the Pokeball used to catch it could be hacked, but so could any other ball. It is not a hacked Pokémon, as far as the data goes. The ball doesn't even matter in the end, either.

LLR
7th November 2014, 7:08 PM
Is it possible to get an East Sea (blue) Shellos with Sand Force (HA)?

Ice Lock
7th November 2014, 10:34 PM
I hope this shiny Latias is legit, I would love to be able to use this for soaring for ORAS. It looks legit and due to the recent patch I would expect it, but I'd like double check to be safe.

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: N/A
OT: Eufemia
OT Gender: N/A (I don't see a gender colour anywhere for this)
IDno:07605
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: N/A
IV's: HP 31, ATK X, DEF 31, SPATK X, SPDEF 31, SPE X
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Somewhat Vain
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Trick, Psyshock, Hidden Power, Draco Meteor
Level Caught at:N/A (No infomation given on it's level caught)
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 301, ATK 175, DEF 216, SPATK 349, SPDEF 297, SPE 318
Location Caught: Traveled across both space and time from the Unova Region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Received this today from the GTS.

SilverLanayru
7th November 2014, 11:01 PM
I hope this shiny Latias is legit, I would love to be able to use this for soaring for ORAS. It looks legit and due to the recent patch I would expect it, but I'd like double check to be safe.

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: N/A
OT: Eufemia
OT Gender: N/A (I don't see a gender colour anywhere for this)
IDno:07605
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: N/A
IV's: HP 31, ATK X, DEF 31, SPATK X, SPDEF 31, SPE X
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Somewhat Vain
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Trick, Psyshock, Hidden Power, Draco Meteor
Level Caught at:N/A (No infomation given on it's level caught)
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 301, ATK 175, DEF 216, SPATK 349, SPDEF 297, SPE 318
Location Caught: Traveled across both space and time from the Unova Region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Received this today from the GTS.
Assuming this isn't a known hacker's OT/ID, it seems legal to me.
Looks like this one was RNG abused in 5th gen to have HP fire, judging by the IV spread.

Fissurous
7th November 2014, 11:32 PM
Is it possible to get an East Sea (blue) Shellos with Sand Force (HA)?

I believe so; it seems you need to breed Gastrodon from a Friend Safari to get it (or you could have gotten one when Dream World was available).

Ice Lock
8th November 2014, 12:41 AM
I believe so; it seems you need to breed Gastrodon from a Friend Safari to get it (or you could have gotten one when Dream World was available).

Just to add to this, you can only get west sea(Pink) Shellos/gastrodon from the friend safari and the east sea(Blue) forme does not appear there. The only legit way to get a east sea with sand force is from the dream world as stated and/or if it was bred with the ability.

Fissurous
8th November 2014, 3:09 AM
Just to add to this, you can only get west sea(Pink) Shellos/gastrodon from the friend safari and the east sea(Blue) forme does not appear there. The only legit way to get a east sea with sand force is from the dream world as stated and/or if it was bred with the ability.
Just wondering, do you know how breeding works with Shelloses/Gastrodons? Is the form just random or is it the same as the parent?

LLR
8th November 2014, 3:16 AM
The mother passes down the form .
I'm not sure about a male with a Ditto.

FairyWitch
8th November 2014, 4:42 AM
Just wondering, do you know how breeding works with Shelloses/Gastrodons? Is the form just random or is it the same as the parent?

I am a breeder I am here to help out XD If you have a east coast it will produce blue shellos, and if you breed with a west cost pink shellos it will produce pink ones which it will be the female that passes down the form of course. I am pretty sure though if its a ditto with the form it will produce whatever form the male is which i did breed with a ditto litterly two seconds ago :3 hope that helps.

i2i
9th November 2014, 1:16 AM
Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: N/A
OT: Jose Marcelo
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 02242
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: N/A
IV's:N/A
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Imposter
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: HP-78, ATK-43, DEF-43, SPATK-43, SPDEF-43, SPE-43
Location Caught: Friend Safari
Egg?:N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: Receive from GTS

FairyWitch
9th November 2014, 2:41 AM
Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: N/A
OT: Jose Marcelo
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 02242
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: N/A
IV's:N/A
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Imposter
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: HP-78, ATK-43, DEF-43, SPATK-43, SPDEF-43, SPE-43
Location Caught: Friend Safari
Egg?:N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: Receive from GTS

oh wait omit what i just posted just changed it forgot friend safari, got to exuse me im so tried from work -_- anyway it looks legal to me i think the name is long but i forgot the limit on the name count.

Kevin24
9th November 2014, 2:45 AM
you can find imposter ditto in friend safari and it can be shiny. this is from gen 6. notice he says it's from friend safari and not from gen 5

FairyWitch
9th November 2014, 2:49 AM
you can find imposter ditto in friend safari and it can be shiny. this is from gen 6. notice he says it's from friend safari and not from gen 5

I edited my post awhile ago before you posted lol im tired from work forgot about friend safari XD

Arbalest
9th November 2014, 4:16 AM
Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: N/A
OT: Jose Marcelo
OT Gender: N/A
IDno: 02242
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: N/A
IV's:N/A
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Imposter
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: HP-78, ATK-43, DEF-43, SPATK-43, SPDEF-43, SPE-43
Location Caught: Friend Safari
Egg?:N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: Receive from GTSAlmost certainly a hack, those stats look like hex flawless IVs (you can confirm by either checking the IVs or checking the EVs), and legitimate hex flawless shiny friend safari Dittos from the GTS don't exist.


Also, it's the GTS, take a look at how many posts there are in this thread of hacks from the GTS/WT, then multiply that number by a million or so to figure out how many hacks aren't being caught or posted.

Shiny Rokon
11th November 2014, 11:25 PM
Pokemon Species: Scizor
Nickname: Scizor
OT: GeOnE
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 09012
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) attack 252 Defense 6 Speed252
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Light Metal
Moves: Vacuum Wave, X-Scissor, Steel Wing, Aerial Ace
Level Caught at: Egg received: 10/09/2014 From: a Day-Care Couple Egg Hatched: Apparently 10/11/2014 Where: Route 7
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 281, Atk 394, Def 237, Sp.Atk 131, Sp. Def 196, Speed 229
Location Caught: see above
Egg?: see above
Pokeball Caught In: Net Ball
Any other notes?: wonder trade received as scyther which evolved in scizor when i received it

Also a question, when battling over the internet do a lot of people used hacked pokemon or is it quite controlled so that they can't enter them?

AlaCritical Hit
12th November 2014, 6:42 PM
Is it possible to get an East Sea (blue) Shellos with Sand Force (HA)?

If it's okay, I'd like to add that East Sea Shellos with HA were also available with the Dropped Item Sidequest in BW2.

kyogreblue3
12th November 2014, 10:50 PM
Got this through a random trade a few days ago; 6IVs seems way too good to be true, so I have my suspicions.

Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: None
OT: Eddie
OT Gender: The color is white, so the gender can't be determined for sure, but judging from only the name, OT is most likely Male
IDno: 01362
Shiny?: No
EV's: None
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Drought
Moves: Stealth Rock, Earthquake, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch
Level Caught at: Doesn't say
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP- 175, ATTACK- 170, DEFENSE- 176, SP.ATTACK-108, SP.DEFENSE- 110, SPEED- 110
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Luxury Ball
Any other notes?: None

Tsukuyomi56
12th November 2014, 11:17 PM
Got this through a random trade a few days ago; 6IVs seems way too good to be true, so I have my suspicions.

Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: None
OT: Eddie
OT Gender: The color is white, so the gender can't be determined for sure, but judging from only the name, OT is most likely Male
IDno: 01362
Shiny?: No
EV's: None
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Impish
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Drought
Moves: Stealth Rock, Earthquake, Thunder Punch, Fire Punch
Level Caught at: Doesn't say
Current Level: 50
Stats: HP- 175, ATTACK- 170, DEFENSE- 176, SP.ATTACK-108, SP.DEFENSE- 110, SPEED- 110
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Luxury Ball
Any other notes?: None
Hacked, only natures which can have 6IVs on a wild Pokemon with a fixed gender in Gen 4 are Calm, Docile, Modest and Timid.

kyogreblue3
12th November 2014, 11:43 PM
^ Ah, I knew something was off, but I completely forgot about the nature thing.
Thanks for the quick clarification!

Shiny Rokon
13th November 2014, 8:12 PM
Pokemon Species: Scizor
Nickname: Scizor
OT: GeOnE
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 09012
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) attack 252 Defense 6 Speed252
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Light Metal
Moves: Vacuum Wave, X-Scissor, Steel Wing, Aerial Ace
Level Caught at: Egg received: 10/09/2014 From: a Day-Care Couple Egg Hatched: Apparently 10/11/2014 Where: Route 7
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 281, Atk 394, Def 237, Sp.Atk 131, Sp. Def 196, Speed 229
Location Caught: see above
Egg?: see above
Pokeball Caught In: Net Ball
Any other notes?: wonder trade received as scyther which evolved in scizor when i received it

Also a question, when battling over the internet do a lot of people used hacked pokemon or is it quite controlled so that they can't enter them?

Fissurous
13th November 2014, 10:11 PM
Pokemon Species: Scizor
Nickname: Scizor
OT: GeOnE
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 09012
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) attack 252 Defense 6 Speed252
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Light Metal
Moves: Vacuum Wave, X-Scissor, Steel Wing, Aerial Ace
Level Caught at: Egg received: 10/09/2014 From: a Day-Care Couple Egg Hatched: Apparently 10/11/2014 Where: Route 7
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 281, Atk 394, Def 237, Sp.Atk 131, Sp. Def 196, Speed 229
Location Caught: see above
Egg?: see above
Pokeball Caught In: Net Ball
Any other notes?: wonder trade received as scyther which evolved in scizor when i received it

Also a question, when battling over the internet do a lot of people used hacked pokemon or is it quite controlled so that they can't enter them?

I'm pretty sure it's hacked. It's already really hard to get perfect 6IV Pokemon, and getting a shiny one is virtually impossible without using Shiny Values, not to mention the fact it has a Hidden Ability. The fact that someone would also randomly Wonder Trade it if it was legit also makes it pretty suspicious. It does seem to check out though; stats and everything else looks fine.

As for your second question, I personally have never battled over the Internet, but I'm 99% sure people do battle with hacked Pokemon. Most of them are legal I believe, so they were generated/modified with a 3rd party device but they ARE obtainable legit.

CrusherTheFeraligatr
13th November 2014, 10:16 PM
I'm pretty sure it's hacked. It's already really hard to get perfect 6IV Pokemon, and getting a shiny one is virtually impossible without using Shiny Values, not to mention the fact it has a Hidden Ability. The fact that someone would also randomly Wonder Trade it if it was legit also makes it pretty suspicious. It does seem to check out though; stats and everything else looks fine.

As for your second question, I personally have never battled over the Internet, but I'm 99% sure people do battle with hacked Pokemon. Most of them are legal I believe, so they were generated/modified with a 3rd party device but they ARE obtainable legit.

Hoooboy. I've fought several teams that were so obviously hacked. So many times have I fought the 3 shiny kalos legendaries.

KaitoUchiha
14th November 2014, 5:27 PM
Hey, I was wondering if anyone could tell me if these are hacked. Also how many are we allowed to put in one post? I have a bunch I want to check. Thanks for the help!

Nickname: Torchic
OT: TARIK
OT Gender: Male?
IDno: 43291
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 6 IVs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Low kick, Night slash, Scratch, Growl
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: Atk 6, Def 6, Sp. Atk 5. Sp. Def 6, Spd 6
Location Caught: Unova region
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: No

Nickname: Darkrai
OT: Teru
OT Gender: Male
IDno: 01337
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 6 IVs
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Bad dreams
Moves: Dark pulse, Dream eater, Dark void, Nightmare
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 100
Stats: Atk 194, Def 216, Sp. Atk 369, Sp. Def 216, Spd 383
Location Caught: Sinnoh region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk ball
Any other notes?:

Fissurous
14th November 2014, 9:55 PM
Hey, I was wondering if anyone could tell me if these are hacked. Also how many are we allowed to put in one post? I have a bunch I want to check. Thanks for the help!

Nickname: Torchic
OT: TARIK
OT Gender: Male?
IDno: 43291
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 6 IVs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Low kick, Night slash, Scratch, Growl
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 1
Stats: Atk 6, Def 6, Sp. Atk 5. Sp. Def 6, Spd 6
Location Caught: Unova region
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: No

Nickname: Darkrai
OT: Teru
OT Gender: Male
IDno: 01337
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 6 IVs
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Bad dreams
Moves: Dark pulse, Dream eater, Dark void, Nightmare
Level Caught at:
Current Level: 100
Stats: Atk 194, Def 216, Sp. Atk 369, Sp. Def 216, Spd 383
Location Caught: Sinnoh region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Dusk ball
Any other notes?:

The Torchic seems fine, probably just a 5th gen RNG. Stats, Poke Ball, move, OT/TID, etc. check out I believe
The Darkrai is hacked; 01337 is a known hacker.

javik
15th November 2014, 1:21 PM
Pokemon Species: Suicune
OT:Ash
OT Gender: white
IDno:01337
Shiny?:no
EV's: 252 hp / 252 def / 6 sp.atk
IV's: all 31
Nature: bold
Characteristic:capable of taking hits
Ability: pressure
Moves: scald, aurora beam, calm mind, protect
Level Caught at: unknow
Current Level: 100
Stats: hp 404, atk 167, def 361, sp.atk 217, sp.def 266, spd 206
Location Caught: Kanto region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: no
OT: Demeter
OT Gender: white
IDno: 65535
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 sp.atk, 252 speed, 6 hp
IV's: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Nature: timid
Characteristic: somewhat vain
Ability: multiscale
Moves: Aeroblast, Hydro Pump, Earth Power, Psyshock
Level Caught at: unknow
Current Level: 100
Stats: hp 354, atk 180, def 296, sp.atk 279, sp.def 344, speed 350
Location Caught: Unima
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Dream ball
Any other notes?:

ty for the help :)

FairyWitch
15th November 2014, 4:29 PM
Pokemon Species: Suicune
OT:Ash
OT Gender: white
IDno:01337
Shiny?:no
EV's: 252 hp / 252 def / 6 sp.atk
IV's: all 31
Nature: bold
Characteristic:capable of taking hits
Ability: pressure
Moves: scald, aurora beam, calm mind, protect
Level Caught at: unknow
Current Level: 100
Stats: hp 404, atk 167, def 361, sp.atk 217, sp.def 266, spd 206
Location Caught: Kanto region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: no
OT: Demeter
OT Gender: white
IDno: 65535
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 sp.atk, 252 speed, 6 hp
IV's: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Nature: timid
Characteristic: somewhat vain
Ability: multiscale
Moves: Aeroblast, Hydro Pump, Earth Power, Psyshock
Level Caught at: unknow
Current Level: 100
Stats: hp 354, atk 180, def 296, sp.atk 279, sp.def 344, speed 350
Location Caught: Unima
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Dream ball
Any other notes?:

ty for the help :)

as for the suicune i think that came from the old firered and leafgreen which I was told you can't rng on it and the spread is flawless which that right there shows hacked because I know some spreads don't exist in older games but the main thing is that you can't rng on firered and leafgreen so I think its a hack if I am correct of course. The Lugia looks like it is from dream radar game so far to me that looks legal.

edit: I looked up on smogon you can rng on the games my bad but Im not sure if that spread exists in that game though as of right now I still think the suicune might be a hack but I could be wrong.

Requiem Aeternam
15th November 2014, 5:38 PM
Pokemon Species: Suicune
OT:Ash
OT Gender: white
IDno:01337
Shiny?:no
EV's: 252 hp / 252 def / 6 sp.atk
IV's: all 31
Nature: bold
Characteristic:capable of taking hits
Ability: pressure
Moves: scald, aurora beam, calm mind, protect
Level Caught at: unknow
Current Level: 100
Stats: hp 404, atk 167, def 361, sp.atk 217, sp.def 266, spd 206
Location Caught: Kanto region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?:


Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: no
OT: Demeter
OT Gender: white
IDno: 65535
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 sp.atk, 252 speed, 6 hp
IV's: 31/x/31/31/31/31
Nature: timid
Characteristic: somewhat vain
Ability: multiscale
Moves: Aeroblast, Hydro Pump, Earth Power, Psyshock
Level Caught at: unknow
Current Level: 100
Stats: hp 354, atk 180, def 296, sp.atk 279, sp.def 344, speed 350
Location Caught: Unima
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Dream ball
Any other notes?:

ty for the help :)

Suicune is a definite hack as the Trainer name and ID are used on a number of hacked Pokemon.

Lugia I'm not so sure about. I'd personally say it's a hack as I'm suspicious of all flawless IV legendary Pokemon but, as people can RNG Dream Radar Pokemon to have good IVs and natures, it's hard to tell. It looks legal however.

Kevin24
15th November 2014, 5:40 PM
lugia is believe is an rng of someone familiar. i think dewey911p

dewey911p
15th November 2014, 6:59 PM
lugia is believe is an rng of someone familiar. i think dewey911p

Yup, that's one of my RNGs.

MaddieShinx
18th November 2014, 2:17 AM
I got this thing over Wonder Trade, and I'm not 100% sure about it. To me, it's too good to be true.

Pokemon Species: Haxorus
Nickname: None
OT: Iris
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 61028
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: No Clue
IV's: HP, not perfect.
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Mold Breaker
Moves: Swords Dance, Guillotine, Outrage, and Giga Impact.
Level Caught at: Unsure
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: HP-290, Atk-352, Def-176, Sp.Atk-147, Sp.Def-148, Speed-214
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Unova Region.
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Recieved through wonder trade as it is.

varanus_komodoensis
18th November 2014, 3:08 AM
I got this thing over Wonder Trade, and I'm not 100% sure about it. To me, it's too good to be true.

Pokemon Species: Haxorus
Nickname: None
OT: Iris
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 61028
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: No Clue
IV's: HP, not perfect.
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Mold Breaker
Moves: Swords Dance, Guillotine, Outrage, and Giga Impact.
Level Caught at: Unsure
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: HP-290, Atk-352, Def-176, Sp.Atk-147, Sp.Def-148, Speed-214
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Unova Region.
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Recieved through wonder trade as it is.

That Haxorus is probably the Nature Preserve one. I can't check the ID number, but because it has a poor nature and poor IVs, it's probably legal. The only thing that throws me off about it is the moves - those are the last four moves that Haxorus has in its moveset, in the order that it learns them. In a lot of cases, this is indicative of a hack. However, the person who had it also could have just wanted those moves.

I'd get another opinion on it, but I'm leaning towards "most likely legal, but suspicious".

KaitoUchiha
18th November 2014, 3:58 AM
Thank you fissurous for the reply! I've got a question about the WISHMKR Jirachi, can it be shiny? I've read that it can be shiny, but I was told the one I have is hacked.

Nickname: Jirachi
OT: WISHMKR
OT Gender: genderless? lol
IDno: 20043
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 2 IVs (Hp and Sp. Atk)
Nature: Docile
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Serene grace
Moves: Wish, confusion, rest
Level Caught at: 5
Current Level: 5
Stats: Atk. 15, Def. 15, Sp. Atk. 15, Sp. Def. 15, Spd. 15
Location Caught: Hoenn region (presumably bonus Colosseum disc)
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?:

FairyWitch
18th November 2014, 4:26 AM
lugia is believe is an rng of someone familiar. i think dewey911p

lmao you know your right I saw that OT before but i forgot it was dewey XD good eye


I got this thing over Wonder Trade, and I'm not 100% sure about it. To me, it's too good to be true.

Pokemon Species: Haxorus
Nickname: None
OT: Iris
OT Gender: Female
IDno: 61028
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: No Clue
IV's: HP, not perfect.
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Mold Breaker
Moves: Swords Dance, Guillotine, Outrage, and Giga Impact.
Level Caught at: Unsure
Current Level: Lv. 100
Stats: HP-290, Atk-352, Def-176, Sp.Atk-147, Sp.Def-148, Speed-214
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos Region from the Unova Region.
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Recieved through wonder trade as it is.

looks alright to me I can't find anything atm about it as for right now its legal just looks like a ordinary shiny and some had a extra master ball to catch it.


Thank you fissurous for the reply! I've got a question about the WISHMKR Jirachi, can it be shiny? I've read that it can be shiny, but I was told the one I have is hacked.

Nickname: Jirachi
OT: WISHMKR
OT Gender: genderless? lol
IDno: 20043
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 2 IVs (Hp and Sp. Atk)
Nature: Docile
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Serene grace
Moves: Wish, confusion, rest
Level Caught at: 5
Current Level: 5
Stats: Atk. 15, Def. 15, Sp. Atk. 15, Sp. Def. 15, Spd. 15
Location Caught: Hoenn region (presumably bonus Colosseum disc)
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?:

colosseum bonus disc jirachi can be shiny but celebi can't just a heads up sense its not flawless spread that is good as becuase you can't rng on the gamecube games so as of right now legal of my knowledge if someone is more familar with 3rd gen mechanics go ahead but I am sure the jirachi can be shiny just not the celebi

http://www.serebii.net/games/shiny.shtml

SilverLanayru
18th November 2014, 4:48 AM
Thank you fissurous for the reply! I've got a question about the WISHMKR Jirachi, can it be shiny? I've read that it can be shiny, but I was told the one I have is hacked.

Nickname: Jirachi
OT: WISHMKR
OT Gender: genderless? lol
IDno: 20043
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 2 IVs (Hp and Sp. Atk)
Nature: Docile
Characteristic: Likes to relax
Ability: Serene grace
Moves: Wish, confusion, rest
Level Caught at: 5
Current Level: 5
Stats: Atk. 15, Def. 15, Sp. Atk. 15, Sp. Def. 15, Spd. 15
Location Caught: Hoenn region (presumably bonus Colosseum disc)
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?:
I think the reason why you were initially told it was hacked was because at some point in time, we weren't able to transfer the shiny variant of the WISHMKR Jirachi to XY. I don't know if that was a glitch that was fixed or something else. For now, I would assume this one is legal, since, like FairyWitch said, it's possible to obtain a shiny variant of the WISHMKR Jirachi. What I do know, however, is that like other 3rd gen wonder card style events, this one can't be RNG abused at all, and the one you have doesn't seem to be the case.

KaitoUchiha
18th November 2014, 4:54 AM
I think the reason why you were initially told it was hacked was because at some point in time, we weren't able to transfer the shiny variant of the WISHMKR Jirachi to XY. I don't know if that was a glitch that was fixed or something else. For now, I would assume this one is legal, since, like FairyWitch said, it's possible to obtain a shiny variant of the WISHMKR Jirachi. What I do know, however, is that like other 3rd gen wonder card style events, this one can't be RNG abused at all, and the one you have doesn't seem to be the case.

Thank you both, I don't trade hacks and I wanted to make sure this one wasn't, so I'll leave it "for trade" until someones says otherwise.

FairyWitch
18th November 2014, 4:55 AM
I think the reason why you were initially told it was hacked was because at some point in time, we weren't able to transfer the shiny variant of the WISHMKR Jirachi to XY. I don't know if that was a glitch that was fixed or something else. For now, I would assume this one is legal, since, like FairyWitch said, it's possible to obtain a shiny variant of the WISHMKR Jirachi. What I do know, however, is that like other 3rd gen wonder card style events, this one can't be RNG abused at all, and the one you have doesn't seem to be the case.

also to add the evidence that is legal to get it shiny this lists it can be shiny :p so as of right now that jirachi looks legal.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_game-based_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_III #Wishmaker_Jirachi


Thank you both, I don't trade hacks and I wanted to make sure this one wasn't, so I'll leave it "for trade" until someones says otherwise.

found more evidence above edit ^ and your welcome happy to help

dislocate
18th November 2014, 6:05 AM
Pokemon Species: Mawile
Nickname: Mawile
OT: Allie
OT Gender: Red
IDno: 01716
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: the chart in super training says it has 252 hp/252 attack/4 Sp. Def (or somewhere around that)
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Play Rough, Iron Head, Sucker Punch, Protect
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 100
Stats: 304/295/206/131/147/136
Location Caught: a Day-Care Couple
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball
Any other notes?: Wonder trade. Also it has Pokerus

Pokemon Species: Registeel
Nickname: (In japanese)
OT: (In japanese)
OT Gender: White
IDno: 13254
Shiny?: No
EV's: 252 Hp/252 Sp. Def./4 Def (Or somewhere around that)
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Clear Body
Moves: Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Hammer Arm, Hyper Beam
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 100
Stats: 364/204/337/167/399/136
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Normal Pokeball
Any other notes?: Got it from GTS. Has Pokerus

Pokemon Species: Zekrom
Nickname: (In japanese)
OT: L
OT Gender: White
IDno: 38226
Shiny?: No
EV's: Unevenly spread between all stats. Fully trained
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Teravolt
Moves: Outrage, Bolt Strike, Zen Headbutt, Fusion Bolt
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 100
Stats: 386/357/282/334/224/228
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: Got it from GTS. Has expired Pokerus

Pokemon Species: Reshiram
Nickname: Reshiram
OT: vitor
OT Gender: White
IDno: 01337
Shiny?: No
EV's: Unevenly spread between Defense, Sp. Atk. and Speed. Fully trained
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Gentle
Characteristic: likes to thrash about
Ability: Turboblaze
Moves: Dragon Breath, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Blue Flare
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 100
Stats: 341/276/269/373/303/242
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: normal Pokeball
Any other notes?: Got it from GTS right after Zekrom. Starting to think that GTS is all about RNG, hacks and clones

SilverLanayru
18th November 2014, 6:44 AM
Pokemon Species: Mawile
Nickname: Mawile
OT: Allie
OT Gender: Red
IDno: 01716
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: the chart in super training says it has 252 hp/252 attack/4 Sp. Def (or somewhere around that)
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Play Rough, Iron Head, Sucker Punch, Protect
Level Caught at: 1
Current Level: 100
Stats: 304/295/206/131/147/136
Location Caught: a Day-Care Couple
Egg?: Yes
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball
Any other notes?: Wonder trade. Also it has Pokerus

Pokemon Species: Registeel
Nickname: (In japanese)
OT: (In japanese)
OT Gender: White
IDno: 13254
Shiny?: No
EV's: 252 Hp/252 Sp. Def./4 Def (Or somewhere around that)
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Clear Body
Moves: Iron Head, Flash Cannon, Hammer Arm, Hyper Beam
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 100
Stats: 364/204/337/167/399/136
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Normal Pokeball
Any other notes?: Got it from GTS. Has Pokerus

Pokemon Species: Zekrom
Nickname: (In japanese)
OT: L
OT Gender: White
IDno: 38226
Shiny?: No
EV's: Unevenly spread between all stats. Fully trained
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Rash
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Teravolt
Moves: Outrage, Bolt Strike, Zen Headbutt, Fusion Bolt
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 100
Stats: 386/357/282/334/224/228
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: Got it from GTS. Has expired Pokerus

Pokemon Species: Reshiram
Nickname: Reshiram
OT: vitor
OT Gender: White
IDno: 01337
Shiny?: No
EV's: Unevenly spread between Defense, Sp. Atk. and Speed. Fully trained
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Gentle
Characteristic: likes to thrash about
Ability: Turboblaze
Moves: Dragon Breath, Flamethrower, Fire Blast, Blue Flare
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 100
Stats: 341/276/269/373/303/242
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: normal Pokeball
Any other notes?: Got it from GTS right after Zekrom. Starting to think that GTS is all about RNG, hacks and clones
Assuming that the OT/ID isn't a known hacker's combination, Mawile and Zekrom look fairly legal.
I believe the Registeel is hacked, as the nature/IV combination doesn't exist. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong; still learning the gist of 3rd gen mechanics.)
Reshiram is also suspected to be hacked, as 01337 is a very common ID for hackers.

Shine
18th November 2014, 6:45 AM
also to add the evidence that is legal to get it shiny this lists it can be shiny :p so as of right now that jirachi looks legal.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_game-based_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_III #Wishmaker_Jirachi




The real problem isn't about whether it can be shiny or not, the real problem is whether you can transfer one from Gen V or not.

Last time I checked, you can't, but maybe GF updated the server, I don't know. I'll have to check that again.

serpent222
18th November 2014, 10:59 PM
Not sure if this can just be an RNG pokemon...

Pokemon Species: Milotic
Nickname: Milotic
OT: SING
OT Gender: Unsure
IDno: 34578
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Don't know
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Marvel Scale
Moves: Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Dragon Pulse, Mirror Coat
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 43
Stats: 151/65/88/116/126/91
Location Caught: Don't know. From Sinnoh region.
Egg?: No.
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball

Fissurous
18th November 2014, 11:30 PM
The real problem isn't about whether it can be shiny or not, the real problem is whether you can transfer one from Gen V or not.

Last time I checked, you can't, but maybe GF updated the server, I don't know. I'll have to check that again.

They changed it a few weeks ago so that you are able to transfer shiny Jirachis now; I was able to transfer mine.

Not sure if this can just be an RNG pokemon...

Pokemon Species: Milotic
Nickname: Milotic
OT: SING
OT Gender: Unsure
IDno: 34578
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Don't know
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Marvel Scale
Moves: Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Dragon Pulse, Mirror Coat
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 43
Stats: 151/65/88/116/126/91
Location Caught: Don't know. From Sinnoh region.
Egg?: No.
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
I couldn't find anything on that OT/TID, so I think it's just an RNG'd Feebas evolved to a Milotic.

FairyWitch
19th November 2014, 1:32 AM
Not sure if this can just be an RNG pokemon...

Pokemon Species: Milotic
Nickname: Milotic
OT: SING
OT Gender: Unsure
IDno: 34578
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Don't know
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Marvel Scale
Moves: Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, Dragon Pulse, Mirror Coat
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 43
Stats: 151/65/88/116/126/91
Location Caught: Don't know. From Sinnoh region.
Egg?: No.
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball

modest nature can be shiny with the correct id/sid match on 4th generation with a flawless spread, if i remember correctly looks legal to me :3 Its been awhile rnging on 4th gen..

QuoteMissy
19th November 2014, 2:23 AM
modest nature can be shiny with the correct id/sid match on 4th generation with a flawless spread, if i remember correctly looks legal to me :3 Its been awhile rnging on 4th gen..

Which is irrelevant since this appears to be egg-originated, whether or not the egg spreads are shiny do not depend upon the ID combination.

FairyWitch
19th November 2014, 2:32 AM
Which is irrelevant since this appears to be egg-originated, whether or not the egg spreads are shiny do not depend upon the ID combination.

oh wait i was thinking it was caught in the wild lol you are right why was i thinking that it was caught in the wild >.> I am loosing my dang mind I need to seriously look more closely before I post

Slimjim367
19th November 2014, 5:38 AM
Well, I'm 99% sure this is a hack for multiple reasons including it's birthplace and OT:
Plus I don't think it's even possible to obtain a shiny pokeball pattern vivillon.

Pokemon Species: Vivillon
Nickname: Vivillon
OT: Xrom
OT Gender: Unsure
IDno: 12593
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Don't know
IV's: Don't know
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Hates to Lose
Ability: Compound Eyes
Moves: Sturggle Bug, Clam mind, Stun Spore, Protect
Level Caught at: 3
Current Level: 84
Stats: 235/82/111/167/112/155
Location Caught: Santalune forest
Egg?: No.
Pokeball: Pokeball

Shiny Rokon
19th November 2014, 6:02 AM
Ok so here are the shinys I have received over wonder trade or internet trade or GTS in the last few months. Is a shiny pokemon likely to be hacked if it has poor IVs or are they usually flawless?

Pokemon Species: Charizard
Nickname: blaze
OT: Sora
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 17337
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained
IV's: (if known) decent all around, sp.atk good (so pretty poor IVs)
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Often lost in thought
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Flamethrower, Dragon Claw, Fire Pledge, Fly
Level Caught at: lv. 10
Current Level: 57
Stats: HP 165, Atk 126, Def 111, Sp. Atk 152, Sp. Def 117, Speed 135
Location Caught: Lumiose City
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: normal
Any other notes?: male, date met 12/30/2013, blue pentagon is there, got it either in wonder trade or internet trade, can't remember

Pokemon Species: Houndoom
Nickname: Houndoom
OT: FLO
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 28717
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained, bit in all stats
IV's: (if known) decent, HP, Atk, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp.Def, Speed rather decent (so again poor IVs but all equal which i thought was weird)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Early Bird
Moves: Foul Play, Beat Up, Fire Fang, Feint Attack
Level Caught at: from Sinnoh
Current Level: 48
Stats: HP 132, Atk 84, Def 54, Sp.Atk 113, Sp. Def 84, Speed 108
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: ultra ball
Any other notes?: female, has active pokerus, also wonder trade or internet trade, oh and its French

Pokemon Species: Luxray
Nickname: Luxray
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 37516
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) I think it was untouched, but I have since EV trained it
IV's: (if known) above average, 31 in Attack and 31 in Special Attack
Nature: bold
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Rest, Sleep Talk, Thunderbolt, Roar ( i gave it this moveset)
Level Caught at: lv. 30
Current Level: 51 ( i raised it from lv 30)
Stats: HP 184, Atk 128, Def 130, Sp. Atk 117, Sp. Def 90, Speed 85
Location Caught: Friend Safari
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: date met 11/19/2013, from Japan, has blue pentagon

Pokemon Species: Lucario
Nickname: Japanese
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 03569
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained, bit in everything
IV's: (if known) decent, Sp. Def 31, HP 0, Attack 0
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Inner Focus
Moves: Close Combat, Earthquake, Psychic, Aura Sphere
Level Caught at: Sinnoh
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 251, Atk 250, Def 178, Sp. Atk 225, Sp. Def 177, Speed 196
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes?: male, active pokerus, sinnoh champion ribbon


Pokemon Species: Yamask
Nickname: Yamask
OT: AAAAAAA (yes seriously?)
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 25858
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) untouched
IV's: (if known) decent, sp. def fantastic, 0 Defense
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: strong willed
Ability: mummy
Moves: Disable, Will-o-wisp, night shade, hex
Level Caught at: Unova
Current Level: 22
Stats: HP 55, Atk 22, Def 42, Sp. Atk 30, Sp. Def 36, Speed 19
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: male, italian, wonder trade or internet trade

FairyWitch
19th November 2014, 4:06 PM
Well, I'm 99% sure this is a hack for multiple reasons including it's birthplace and OT:
Plus I don't think it's even possible to obtain a shiny pokeball pattern vivillon.

Pokemon Species: Vivillon
Nickname: Vivillon
OT: Xrom
OT Gender: Unsure
IDno: 12593
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Don't know
IV's: Don't know
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Hates to Lose
Ability: Compound Eyes
Moves: Sturggle Bug, Clam mind, Stun Spore, Protect
Level Caught at: 3
Current Level: 84
Stats: 235/82/111/167/112/155
Location Caught: Santalune forest
Egg?: No.
Pokeball: Pokeball

if its the event pokeball pattern vivillion shiny yeah its a hack but if its a non event vilvillion you should be alright

LLR
19th November 2014, 4:30 PM
if its the event pokeball pattern vivillion shiny yeah its a hack but if its a non event vilvillion you should be alright

The Pokeball pattern is event only and cannot be bred. They were all level 12 and were never wild, could not be caught in Santalune Forest .
If it is Pokéball pattern then it's hacked.

All the details fit the non-event event patterns.

Fissurous
19th November 2014, 9:36 PM
Ok so here are the shinys I have received over wonder trade or internet trade or GTS in the last few months. Is a shiny pokemon likely to be hacked if it has poor IVs or are they usually flawless?

Pokemon Species: Charizard
Nickname: blaze
OT: Sora
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 17337
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained
IV's: (if known) decent all around, sp.atk good (so pretty poor IVs)
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Often lost in thought
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Flamethrower, Dragon Claw, Fire Pledge, Fly
Level Caught at: lv. 10
Current Level: 57
Stats: HP 165, Atk 126, Def 111, Sp. Atk 152, Sp. Def 117, Speed 135
Location Caught: Lumiose City
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: normal
Any other notes?: male, date met 12/30/2013, blue pentagon is there, got it either in wonder trade or internet trade, can't remember

Pokemon Species: Houndoom
Nickname: Houndoom
OT: FLO
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 28717
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained, bit in all stats
IV's: (if known) decent, HP, Atk, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp.Def, Speed rather decent (so again poor IVs but all equal which i thought was weird)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Early Bird
Moves: Foul Play, Beat Up, Fire Fang, Feint Attack
Level Caught at: from Sinnoh
Current Level: 48
Stats: HP 132, Atk 84, Def 54, Sp.Atk 113, Sp. Def 84, Speed 108
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: ultra ball
Any other notes?: female, has active pokerus, also wonder trade or internet trade, oh and its French

Pokemon Species: Luxray
Nickname: Luxray
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 37516
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) I think it was untouched, but I have since EV trained it
IV's: (if known) above average, 31 in Attack and 31 in Special Attack
Nature: bold
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Rest, Sleep Talk, Thunderbolt, Roar ( i gave it this moveset)
Level Caught at: lv. 30
Current Level: 51 ( i raised it from lv 30)
Stats: HP 184, Atk 128, Def 130, Sp. Atk 117, Sp. Def 90, Speed 85
Location Caught: Friend Safari
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: date met 11/19/2013, from Japan, has blue pentagon

Pokemon Species: Lucario
Nickname: Japanese
OT: Japanese
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 03569
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained, bit in everything
IV's: (if known) decent, Sp. Def 31, HP 0, Attack 0
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Inner Focus
Moves: Close Combat, Earthquake, Psychic, Aura Sphere
Level Caught at: Sinnoh
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 251, Atk 250, Def 178, Sp. Atk 225, Sp. Def 177, Speed 196
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes?: male, active pokerus, sinnoh champion ribbon


Pokemon Species: Yamask
Nickname: Yamask
OT: AAAAAAA (yes seriously?)
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 25858
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) untouched
IV's: (if known) decent, sp. def fantastic, 0 Defense
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: strong willed
Ability: mummy
Moves: Disable, Will-o-wisp, night shade, hex
Level Caught at: Unova
Current Level: 22
Stats: HP 55, Atk 22, Def 42, Sp. Atk 30, Sp. Def 36, Speed 19
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: male, italian, wonder trade or internet trade

Took a quick glance at them, they look fine to me but someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Shiny Pokemon are hacked quite often, regardless of the fact that they have good/bad IVs. Usually they'll have good IVs though.

KaitoUchiha
19th November 2014, 10:44 PM
Hey everyone, I was wondering if this mew was legit, since I was told it was. I read that the old sea map mew can be shiny but I just want to be sure cuz it seems legit to me.

Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: None
OT: Japanese letters ( sorry I don't know how to write it)
OT Gender: Not sure
IDno: 57342
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 1 IV (Sp. Atk)
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Thoroughly cunning
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Pound, Transform, Mega punch, Metronome
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: Atk. 63, Def. 68, Sp. Atk. 80, Sp. Def. 65, Spd. 68
Location Caught: Hoenn region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master ball
Any other notes?: This is the old sea map mew

FairyWitch
19th November 2014, 10:47 PM
The Pokeball pattern is event only and cannot be bred. They were all level 12 and were never wild, could not be caught in Santalune Forest .
If it is Pokéball pattern then it's hacked.

All the details fit the non-event event patterns.

I know that lol you just repeated what i just said btw :p I was saying if its a event vivillion its a hack which i didn't say it was legal XD the reason why i said because the beginning he said it was a pokeball pattern which its shiny so hack if it was the pokeball pattern.


Hey everyone, I was wondering if this mew was legit, since I was told it was. I read that the old sea map mew can be shiny but I just want to be sure cuz it seems legit to me.

Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: None
OT: Japanese letters ( sorry I don't know how to write it)
OT Gender: Not sure
IDno: 57342
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 1 IV (Sp. Atk)
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Thoroughly cunning
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Pound, Transform, Mega punch, Metronome
Level Caught at: 30
Current Level: 30
Stats: Atk. 63, Def. 68, Sp. Atk. 80, Sp. Def. 65, Spd. 68
Location Caught: Hoenn region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master ball
Any other notes?: This is the old sea map mew

who is the OT in japanese because the only legal shiny mew i have saw that is legal is eppie mew all other mews normally turn out hacked its very rare to run across a legal one now these days.

KaitoUchiha
19th November 2014, 11:17 PM
I know that lol you just repeated what i just said btw :p I was saying if its a event vivillion its a hack which i didn't say it was legal XD the reason why i said because the beginning he said it was a pokeball pattern which its shiny so hack if it was the pokeball pattern.



who is the OT in japanese because the only legal shiny mew i have saw that is legal is eppie mew all other mews normally turn out hacked its very rare to run across a legal one now these days.


Actually I think it may have been hacked :l. This is the OT: アイコ

Slimjim367
20th November 2014, 12:00 AM
The Pokeball pattern is event only and cannot be bred. They were all level 12 and were never wild, could not be caught in Santalune Forest .
If it is Pokéball pattern then it's hacked.

All the details fit the non-event event patterns.

Well, it's definitely hacked then.. thanks guys for the quick answers :/

Now what to do with it..

QuoteMissy
20th November 2014, 12:56 AM
Actually I think it may have been hacked :l. This is the OT: アイコ

This same Mew has showed up here before (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?497187-Hack-Check-Thread&p=17039977#post17039977), as PokeCheck was still active then and the Mew was there and was legal according to it's Legality Analysis (which is no longer available for viewing unfortunately).


Well, it's definitely hacked then.. thanks guys for the quick answers :/

Now what to do with it..

Release it.

raidermegaman
20th November 2014, 1:13 AM
Pokemon Species: froakie
Nickname: tobirama
OT: Florian
OT Gender: Not sure
IDno: 22074
Shiny?:no
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 6 IV
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Mischievious
Ability: torrent
Moves: Pound, lick, bubble, quick attack
Level Caught at: met at lvl 5 in aquacorde town
Current Level: 11
Stats: Atk. 18, Def. 17, Sp. Atk. 24, Sp. Def. 18, Spd. 24
Location Caught: n/a
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes: I got it in a wonder trade

KaitoUchiha
20th November 2014, 1:18 AM
This same Mew has , as PokeCheck was still active then and the Mew was there and was legal according to it's Legality Analysis (which is no longer available for viewing unfortunately).



Release it.


Wow, I finally got a legit shiny mew lol
Thanks for the help!

QuoteMissy
20th November 2014, 1:19 AM
Pokemon Species: froakie
Nickname: tobirama
OT: Florian
OT Gender: Not sure
IDno: 22074
Shiny?:no
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 6 IV
Nature: Modest
Characteristic: Mischievious
Ability: torrent
Moves: Pound, lick, bubble, quick attack
Level Caught at: met at lvl 5 in aquacorde town
Current Level: 11
Stats: Atk. 18, Def. 17, Sp. Atk. 24, Sp. Def. 18, Spd. 24
Location Caught: n/a
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes: I got it in a wonder trade

I highly believe it's edited to have flawless IVs since there's no RNG abuse for 6th gen and this isn't bred, I'd get rid of it.

Fissurous
20th November 2014, 2:56 AM
I highly believe it's edited to have flawless IVs since there's no RNG abuse for 6th gen and this isn't bred, I'd get rid of it.
Not to mention that Froakies can't be caught at lvl 5 in Aquacorde Town. Unless that's just something from being Wonder Traded, I have no idea ;-;

Shiny Rokon
20th November 2014, 3:26 AM
Pokemon Species: Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: James
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 24000
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) EV trained (attack and speed)
IV's: (if known) 31 in all but Sp. Atk
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: likes to thrash about
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Earthquake, Iron Head
Level Caught at: Johto
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 352, Atk 438, Def 216, Sp. Atk 289, Sp. Def 216, Speed 289
Location Caught: Johto
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Level Ball
Any other notes?: pretty sure it is hacked, but just checking before i release it, received it on the wonder trade today

Fissurous
20th November 2014, 4:14 AM
Pokemon Species: Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: James
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 24000
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) EV trained (attack and speed)
IV's: (if known) 31 in all but Sp. Atk
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: likes to thrash about
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Earthquake, Iron Head
Level Caught at: Johto
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 352, Atk 438, Def 216, Sp. Atk 289, Sp. Def 216, Speed 289
Location Caught: Johto
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Level Ball
Any other notes?: pretty sure it is hacked, but just checking before i release it, received it on the wonder trade today
Looks legal. The TID is a bit suspicious, but I couldn't find anything on it.

QuoteMissy
20th November 2014, 4:35 AM
Pokemon Species: Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: James
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 24000
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) EV trained (attack and speed)
IV's: (if known) 31 in all but Sp. Atk
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: likes to thrash about
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Dragon Dance, Dragon Claw, Earthquake, Iron Head
Level Caught at: Johto
Current Level: 100
Stats: HP 352, Atk 438, Def 216, Sp. Atk 289, Sp. Def 216, Speed 289
Location Caught: Johto
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Level Ball
Any other notes?: pretty sure it is hacked, but just checking before i release it, received it on the wonder trade today

With the stats you posted the IVs should be 31/31/31/17/31/31 and it's PID is A68FFE96. I ran a search with Pandora's Box to find if that TID can have that spread shiny I ran the minimum possible delay (4,000) all the way to 13,000 and found no matches, I'm willing to say it's hacked actually.

TheShinyLunatone
20th November 2014, 5:24 AM
Pokemon Species: Ferrathorn
Nickname:"Ferrathorn" , used to be Miracle but name deleted for some reason in transfer from gen 5
OT: CARMEN
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 15039
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) 252 hp 252 sp. def
IV's: (if known) 31 in all stats (Flawless)
Nature: Sassy
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Iron Barbs
Moves:leech seed, spikes, stealth rock, protect
Level Caught at: recieved at lvl 100, transferred at lvl 100 from gen 5 to gen 6
Current Level: 100
Stats: 352/224/144/364/68
Location Caught: unova
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes?: I destinctly remeber how i got this creature. while in the wifi chat, was talking battling etc when this person inisited i tae their ferrathorn as "ferrathorn is a miracle" and i needed this miracle in my life. i refused as i dont see what a steel grass type is good for, but they insisted so i said yes.
thats how i got a free lvl 100 fully ev'd ferrathorn shiny

Shiny Rokon
20th November 2014, 7:47 AM
With the stats you posted the IVs should be 31/31/31/17/31/31 and it's PID is A68FFE96. I ran a search with Pandora's Box to find if that TID can have that spread shiny I ran the minimum possible delay (4,000) all the way to 13,000 and found no matches, I'm willing to say it's hacked actually.

Thank you! Releasing now. What about the shinys I mentioned above, mainly just the yamask I'm worried about? With a trainer name AAAAAAA I'm still a bit doubtful...

FairyWitch
20th November 2014, 4:29 PM
Pokemon Species: Ferrathorn
Nickname:"Ferrathorn" , used to be Miracle but name deleted for some reason in transfer from gen 5
OT: CARMEN
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 15039
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) 252 hp 252 sp. def
IV's: (if known) 31 in all stats (Flawless)
Nature: Sassy
Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas
Ability: Iron Barbs
Moves:leech seed, spikes, stealth rock, protect
Level Caught at: recieved at lvl 100, transferred at lvl 100 from gen 5 to gen 6
Current Level: 100
Stats: 352/224/144/364/68
Location Caught: unova
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes?: I destinctly remeber how i got this creature. while in the wifi chat, was talking battling etc when this person inisited i tae their ferrathorn as "ferrathorn is a miracle" and i needed this miracle in my life. i refused as i dont see what a steel grass type is good for, but they insisted so i said yes.
thats how i got a free lvl 100 fully ev'd ferrathorn shiny

I am a bit confused thought it looks like it was rng breed becuase of the egg moves but it was caught in the unova region >.> I don't what it is but this doesn't seem right did you transfer it to your 6th gen game and when you did was it a hatchling? If it was i can't find nothing wrong with but I am not sure anymore about OT hack combinations that people told me about as much as I use to if quotemissy can check this as well to double check that would be great.

KaitoUchiha
20th November 2014, 7:00 PM
Hey everyone, I received a XD Lugia that happens to be shiny, just want to verify it.

Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: None
OT: Sean
OT Gender: male
IDno: 45475
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 5 IVs
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Mischeivous
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Psycho Boost, Roost, Substitute, Dragon tail
Level Caught at: received at lvl 100
Current Level: 100
Stats: Atk. 170, Def. 394, Sp. Atk. 216, Sp. Def. 346, Spd. 256
Location Caught: pretty sure it's the orre region
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: great ball
Any other notes?: It has a National ribbon

FairyWitch
20th November 2014, 7:27 PM
Hey everyone, I received a XD Lugia that happens to be shiny, just want to verify it.

Pokemon Species: Lugia
Nickname: None
OT: Sean
OT Gender: male
IDno: 45475
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 5 IVs
Nature: Bold
Characteristic: Mischeivous
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Psycho Boost, Roost, Substitute, Dragon tail
Level Caught at: received at lvl 100
Current Level: 100
Stats: Atk. 170, Def. 394, Sp. Atk. 216, Sp. Def. 346, Spd. 256
Location Caught: pretty sure it's the orre region
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: great ball
Any other notes?: It has a National ribbon

if its from the orre region i pretty sure it can't be shiny i thought it was shiny locked it doesn't say nothing on bulbpedia so if it is from gale of darkness its a hack as well as the 5 iv even makes it look worse you can't rng in that game so defiantly red flags.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_XD:_Gale_of_Darkness#Lugia

Charizard_Rulez84
20th November 2014, 7:48 PM
Pokemon Species: Diancie
Nickname: None
OT: in japanese
OT Gender:
IDno: 07194
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 31/30/31/30/31/30
Nature: naive
Characteristic: capable of taking hits
Ability: clear body
Moves: moonblast diamond storm hidden power reflect
Level Caught at: received at lvl 50 7/23/14
Current Level: 50
Stats: Hp 125 Atk. 120, Def. 170, Sp. Atk. 120, Sp. Def. 153, Spd. 77
Location Caught: fateful encounter in kalos region
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: red event ball

wasn't sure on this says pokemon movie 14 wasn't sure if the OT can be japanese but name in english

KaitoUchiha
20th November 2014, 7:59 PM
if its from the orre region i pretty sure it can't be shiny i thought it was shiny locked it doesn't say nothing on bulbpedia so if it is from gale of darkness its a hack as well as the 5 iv even makes it look worse you can't rng in that game so defiantly red flags.




Well that's odd, other than bulbapedia, I read the XD pokemon could be shiny and I even saw a video lol
but that's too bad. Thanks for the reply.

FairyWitch
20th November 2014, 8:07 PM
Well that's odd, other than bulbapedia, I read the XD pokemon could be shiny and I even saw a video lol
but that's too bad. Thanks for the reply.

the lugia can't be shiny of that I know of in pokemon XD other then that the normal pokemon caught in the those spot points i thought can be shiny but the ivs give it a big red flag though 5 iv can't be possible in the gale of darkness game no matter if it was shiny or not.

which I found this article explains more the glitch was corrected in gale of darkness but its possible to have shiny purified but not likely in gale of darkness
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shadow_Pok%C3%A9mon#Shiny_Shadow_Pok.C3.A9mon

I highly still wouldn't trust it becuase of the 5 iv though that what tells me that it surely a hack...


Pokemon Species: Diancie
Nickname: None
OT: in japanese
OT Gender:
IDno: 07194
Shiny?: no
EV's: (if known)
IV's: 31/30/31/30/31/30
Nature: naive
Characteristic: capable of taking hits
Ability: clear body
Moves: moonblast diamond storm hidden power reflect
Level Caught at: received at lvl 50 7/23/14
Current Level: 50
Stats: Hp 125 Atk. 120, Def. 170, Sp. Atk. 120, Sp. Def. 153, Spd. 77
Location Caught: fateful encounter in kalos region
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In: red event ball

wasn't sure on this says pokemon movie 14 wasn't sure if the OT can be japanese but name in english

looks alright to me i don't know about the iv spread is bit too good but ill let a second opinion on this and if it matches this i would say its legal charizard as of right now...just the spread may be a bit supscious but other then that it looks fine I think you garenteed 3 31 ivs but the perfect hp spread puzzles me.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_ Generation_VI#Movie_Diancie

KaitoUchiha
20th November 2014, 8:24 PM
the lugia can't be shiny of that I know of in pokemon XD other then that the normal pokemon caught in the those spot points i thought can be shiny but the ivs give it a big red flag though 5 iv can't be possible in the gale of darkness game no matter if it was shiny or not.

which I found this article explains more the glitch was corrected in gale of darkness but its possible to have shiny purified but not likely in gale of darkness


I highly still wouldn't trust it becuase of the 5 iv though that what tells me that it surely a hack...



looks alright to me i don't know about the iv spread is bit too good but ill let a second opinion on this and if it matches this i would say its legal charizard as of right now...just the spread may be a bit supscious but other then that it looks fine I think you garenteed 3 31 ivs but the perfect hp spread puzzles me.




Oh I see, well thank you for that, I'll keep it around for now then!

FairyWitch
20th November 2014, 8:30 PM
Oh I see, well thank you for that, I'll keep it around for now then!

yeah no problem if anyone else has anyother opnions on it though they can go ahead as long as you don't trade it off to people you should be fine.

Charizard_Rulez84
20th November 2014, 9:10 PM
the lugia can't be shiny of that I know of in pokemon XD other then that the normal pokemon caught in the those spot points i thought can be shiny but the ivs give it a big red flag though 5 iv can't be possible in the gale of darkness game no matter if it was shiny or not.

which I found this article explains more the glitch was corrected in gale of darkness but its possible to have shiny purified but not likely in gale of darkness
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Shadow_Pok%C3%A9mon#Shiny_Shadow_Pok.C3.A9mon

I highly still wouldn't trust it becuase of the 5 iv though that what tells me that it surely a hack...



looks alright to me i don't know about the iv spread is bit too good but ill let a second opinion on this and if it matches this i would say its legal charizard as of right now...just the spread may be a bit supscious but other then that it looks fine I think you garenteed 3 31 ivs but the perfect hp spread puzzles me.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_ Generation_VI#Movie_Diancie

yah that spread seems suspicious i was told on neo that has the powersave date n it's possible, i did get a 5iv myself so who knows hopefully someone can clarify further

QuoteMissy
20th November 2014, 10:31 PM
Ok so here are the shinys I have received over wonder trade or internet trade or GTS in the last few months. Is a shiny pokemon likely to be hacked if it has poor IVs or are they usually flawless?

Pokemon Species: Charizard
Nickname: blaze
OT: Sora
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 17337
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained
IV's: (if known) decent all around, sp.atk good (so pretty poor IVs)
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Often lost in thought
Ability: Blaze
Moves: Flamethrower, Dragon Claw, Fire Pledge, Fly
Level Caught at: lv. 10
Current Level: 57
Stats: HP 165, Atk 126, Def 111, Sp. Atk 152, Sp. Def 117, Speed 135
Location Caught: Lumiose City
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: normal
Any other notes?: male, date met 12/30/2013, blue pentagon is there, got it either in wonder trade or internet trade, can't remember

Pokemon Species: Houndoom
Nickname: Houndoom
OT: FLO
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 28717
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained, bit in all stats
IV's: (if known) decent, HP, Atk, Def, Sp.Atk, Sp.Def, Speed rather decent (so again poor IVs but all equal which i thought was weird)
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Scatters things often
Ability: Early Bird
Moves: Foul Play, Beat Up, Fire Fang, Feint Attack
Level Caught at: from Sinnoh
Current Level: 48
Stats: HP 132, Atk 84, Def 54, Sp.Atk 113, Sp. Def 84, Speed 108
Location Caught: Sinnoh
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: ultra ball
Any other notes?: female, has active pokerus, also wonder trade or internet trade, oh and its French

Pokemon Species: Yamask
Nickname: Yamask
OT: AAAAAAA (yes seriously?)
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 25858
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) untouched
IV's: (if known) decent, sp. def fantastic, 0 Defense
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: strong willed
Ability: mummy
Moves: Disable, Will-o-wisp, night shade, hex
Level Caught at: Unova
Current Level: 22
Stats: HP 55, Atk 22, Def 42, Sp. Atk 30, Sp. Def 36, Speed 19
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Ultra Ball
Any other notes?: male, italian, wonder trade or internet trade

The Charizard and Houndoom appear legal (I didn't find their OT/ID combos on google except for here). Charizard's owner probably tossed it because of the bad nature. As for Yamask, I found an OT like that on a Blacklist post although without the same ID. I can't make a search on the others without their actual OTs.

Shine
22nd November 2014, 2:22 AM
They changed it a few weeks ago so that you are able to transfer shiny Jirachis now; I was able to transfer mine.


That's good news then - I wonder if they also fixed the problem with Level 20 Leavanny from Hidden Grotto.




Not to mention that Froakies can't be caught at lvl 5 in Aquacorde Town.

The Froakie you got as a starter is obtained at level 5 in Aquacorde Town.

......though that doesn't matter since that Froakie is obviously edited anyway.

The desert spirit
22nd November 2014, 6:21 AM
Pokemon Species: Terrakion
Nickname: Terrakion
OT: White
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) N/A
IDno: 47293
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) appears to be 252 Speed/ 252 Atk/ 4 Sp. Def
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Justified
Moves: X-Scissor, Earthquake, Stone Edge, Close Combat
Level Caught at: N/A
Current Level: 100
Stats: 323 HP, 392 Atk, 216 Def, 162 Sp. Atk, 217 Sp. Def, 315 Speed
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Nest ball

Just suspicious because 6IV shiny legend

SilentZ
25th November 2014, 9:00 PM
Hey Guys, i've got some Pokémon i'm concerned about whether they're hacked or not.

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: メタモン (jap. Ditto)
OT: japanese OT
OT Gender: white
IDno: 24651
Shiny?: yes
EV's: none
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 45
Stats: 112/62/62/68/62/55
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Kanto region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball

Pretty obvious that it's not some random encounter, it's just that i know nothing about RNG for 3rd gen games.

Pokemon Species: Landorus-T
Nickname: Landorus
OT: Pietro
OT Gender: white
IDno: 19364
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 SpAtk
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, U-Turn, Rest
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 100
Stats: 319/389/216/247/176/308
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball

Seems like a RNG clone to me, but i want a second thought on it


Pokemon Species: Landorus
Nickname: Landorus
OT: Bozu
OT Gender: white
IDno: 32760
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: jolly
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Sheer Force
Moves: Earthquake, Knock Off, Stealth Rock, Stone Edge (all with max PP)
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 100
Stats: 320/349/216/239/196/331
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball

Same like the Therian one, but somehow the Pokeball bugs me lol

Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: Celebi
OT: 10 ANIV
OT Gender: white
IDno: 00010
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 28/26-27/31/8-9/28/28
Nature: jolly
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Magical Leaf, Solarbeam, Perish Song, Recover
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 70
Stats: 239/163/166/135/164/180
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball


Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: Celebi
OT: 10 ANIV
OT Gender: white
IDno: 00010
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 9/16/24/6/24/10-11
Nature: brave
Characteristic: Good perseverance
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Ancient Power, Future Sight, Baton Pass, Perish Song
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 90
Stats: 288/218/206/190/206/174
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball


That's it, hope you guys can help clear it up a bit, although i'm almost sure that all of them are legit, bar the Ditto, which is propably hacked in some way :/

QuoteMissy
26th November 2014, 1:38 AM
Pokemon Species: Terrakion
Nickname: Terrakion
OT: White
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) N/A
IDno: 47293
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) appears to be 252 Speed/ 252 Atk/ 4 Sp. Def
IV's: (if known) 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Justified
Moves: X-Scissor, Earthquake, Stone Edge, Close Combat
Level Caught at: N/A
Current Level: 100
Stats: 323 HP, 392 Atk, 216 Def, 162 Sp. Atk, 217 Sp. Def, 315 Speed
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Nest ball

Just suspicious because 6IV shiny legend

There are many hacks out there that use OT: White, I wouldn't trust it personally.


Hey Guys, i've got some Pokémon i'm concerned about whether they're hacked or not.

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: メタモン (jap. Ditto)
OT: japanese OT
OT Gender: white
IDno: 24651
Shiny?: yes
EV's: none
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 45
Stats: 112/62/62/68/62/55
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Kanto region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball

Pretty obvious that it's not some random encounter, it's just that i know nothing about RNG for 3rd gen games.

Pokemon Species: Landorus-T
Nickname: Landorus
OT: Pietro
OT Gender: white
IDno: 19364
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 SpAtk
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Naive
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Intimidate
Moves: Earthquake, Stone Edge, U-Turn, Rest
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 100
Stats: 319/389/216/247/176/308
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Dream Ball

Seems like a RNG clone to me, but i want a second thought on it

Ditto- That Ditto is hacked there are no flawless Quiet spreads for ungendered pokemon
Landorus-T- That OT/ID belongs to a hacker


You're right to be suspicious of that Pokeball on that Landorus. The only way for Landorus to have its HA is to come from the Dream Radar, and all pokemon from there are in a Dream Ball.

...how in blazes did I miss that? ~.~

dewey911p
26th November 2014, 2:33 AM
Hey Guys, i've got some Pokémon i'm concerned about whether they're hacked or not.

Pokemon Species: Landorus
Nickname: Landorus
OT: Bozu
OT Gender: white
IDno: 32760
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 Atk, 252 Speed, 6 HP
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: jolly
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Sheer Force
Moves: Earthquake, Knock Off, Stealth Rock, Stone Edge (all with max PP)
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 100
Stats: 320/349/216/239/196/331
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball

Same like the Therian one, but somehow the Pokeball bugs me lol

Pokemon Species: Celebi
Nickname: Celebi
OT: 10 ANIV
OT Gender: white
IDno: 00010
Shiny?: no
EV's: none
IV's: 28/26-27/31/8-9/28/28
Nature: jolly
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Natural Cure
Moves: Magical Leaf, Solarbeam, Perish Song, Recover
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 70
Stats: 239/163/166/135/164/180
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball



You're right to be suspicious of that Pokeball on that Landorus. The only way for Landorus to have its HA is to come from the Dream Radar, and all pokemon from there are in a Dream Ball.

As for the Celebi, I'm no expert on events nor on gen 3 mechanics, so gen 3 events are totally out of my league, but those IV's seem suspiciously high for a random event that you can't SR for. That's not decisive in and of itself, but it personally makes me suspect that its a hack.

Fissurous
26th November 2014, 2:45 AM
Does anyone know if the OT NTFOUND and TID 00404 are those of a known hacker? It seems pretty fishy, but I couldn't find anything with a quick Google search.

Also, the 10 ANIV Celebi #2 seems fine. The other 4 are covered above.

dewey911p
26th November 2014, 3:41 AM
Does anyone know if the OT NTFOUND and TID 00404 are those of a known hacker? It seems pretty fishy, but I couldn't find anything with a quick Google search.

Also, the 10 ANIV Celebi #2 seems fine. The other 4 are covered above.

Known RNGer. I forget who but I remember us getting a good laught out of the cleverness of the OT on pokecheck one day. The TID was just a combo that was used for a gen 4 RNG spread iirc, the NTFOUND was because the person thought it would be funny to reference the 404 not found error message.

SilentZ
26th November 2014, 4:04 AM
Wow thanks for the fast help guys, releasing those pesky hacks now :)

QuoteMissy
26th November 2014, 7:57 AM
Smogon's Tips for Simple Hack Checks
General Rules of Thumb for Distinguishing Hacked Pokemon:
Only 4 natures are possible for 31/31/31/31/31/31 Pokemon caught in generations 3 & 4 (exceptions below). These natures are calm, docile, modest, and timid.
----Wild Pokemon with variable genders (including Heatran) caught in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum have 7 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, docile, hasty, modest, quirky, sassy, and timid. -----Wild Pokemon with variable genders caught in Heart Gold and Soul Silver have 6 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, docile, modest, quiet, sassy, and timid.
----The Shiny Gyarados that appears in the Lake of Rage in Heart Gold and Soul Silver can have any IV/nature combination.
----Shinies obtained through the Pokeradar in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum can have any IV/nature combination, but it still requires ID abuse, and is considered one of the most difficult types of Generation 4 abuse. In most cases, unless it's someone who's proven themselves capable of doing such an abuse, it's pretty safe to assume it's a hack.
----Wild Pokemon (excluding Legendaries) from Ruby, Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, and Emerald have 9 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, careful, docile, hardy, lax, modest, naive, rash, and timid.
----Generation 4 wonder card events may have any combination of IVs and nature. However, almost every generation 4 event is locked to not be shiny. The only exceptions are Manaphy who can be hatched shiny by transferring the egg to another save file, caught Shaymin and Darkrai from the Platinum Member Card and Oak's Letter events, and always shiny events (Eevee, Pichu, Entei, Raikou, Suicune, and Milotic).
----Generation 3 wonder card style events cannot be RNG manipulated at all. This includes the Bonus Disc / Channel Jirachi (aka, any jirachi with Body Slam) and Extremespeed Zigzagoon. Any flawless variety of these Pokemon are almost certainly hacked.
----The Wish event Pokemon are virtually non existent. Any you see offered are almost certainly hacked.
----There are no restrictions on the IVs and nature of most 5th gen wonder cards, including most of the competitively relevant ones. However, nearly all are locked to not be shiny.
The following Pokemon cannot be shiny:
Celebi
Arceus
Victini
Keldeo
Meloetta
Xerneas
Yveltal
Zygarde
----Legendaries caught in X and Y cannot be shiny.
----A Shiny mew must be Japanese, from Hoenn, and at least level 30 as the only way to obtain it was through the Old Sea Chart in emerald given out exclusively in Japan.
----The 2011 event Celebi should have the OT WIN2011. OT GAMESTP Celebi are from an unreleased event from the ripping of an unreleased wondercard rom and are hacked.
----Shiny Deoxys can only be obtained through the 3rd gen event item.
----Wild Arceus from Generation 4 are not obtainable as the event was never released.
----No Shadow Pokemon from Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness can be shiny.
----Pokemon from the Dream World, Dream Radar, and Hidden Grottoes in the 5th gen games cannot be shiny.
----A Pokemon that does not normally have a premier ribbon attached from a special event is hacked. This is the result of improperly cloning through Pokecheck. However, this does not invalidate the legality of proper clones.
----Pokemon caught or bred on X and Y have "memories" that are checkable by an NPC outside the Anistar Pokemon Center, Pokemon brought over from previous generations (including those that have been hacked to look like they are from Kalos) and 6th gen events do not have memories and will say "The Pokemon seems to have a good memory, but it doesn't seem to be able to remember...".
Regarding apricorn balls:
----Only Pokemon obtainable in the Generation IV games Heart Gold and Soul Silver can be legitimately captured in an Apricorn ball. Transferring those Pokemon to Generation VI and breeding them will allow the offspring to have an Apricorn ball, along with any egg move combination, but they cannot have their hidden ability.

Credit goes to:
- Dark Ray
- Hozu
- TheMantyke
- Esmeya
- ProjectTitan313

Posted with permission from Nexus

Fissurous
26th November 2014, 5:13 PM
Known RNGer. I forget who but I remember us getting a good laught out of the cleverness of the OT on pokecheck one day. The TID was just a combo that was used for a gen 4 RNG spread iirc, the NTFOUND was because the person thought it would be funny to reference the 404 not found error message.
Thanks for the help!

Smogon's Tips for Simple Hack Checks
General Rules of Thumb for Distinguishing Hacked Pokemon:
Only 4 natures are possible for 31/31/31/31/31/31 Pokemon caught in generations 3 & 4 (exceptions below). These natures are calm, docile, modest, and timid.
----Wild Pokemon with variable genders (including Heatran) caught in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum have 7 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, docile, hasty, modest, quirky, sassy, and timid. -----Wild Pokemon with variable genders caught in Heart Gold and Soul Silver have 6 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, docile, modest, quiet, sassy, and timid.
----The Shiny Gyarados that appears in the Lake of Rage in Heart Gold and Soul Silver can have any IV/nature combination.
----Shinies obtained through the Pokeradar in Diamond, Pearl, and Platinum can have any IV/nature combination, but it still requires ID abuse, and is considered one of the most difficult types of Generation 4 abuse. In most cases, unless it's someone who's proven themselves capable of doing such an abuse, it's pretty safe to assume it's a hack.
----Wild Pokemon (excluding Legendaries) from Ruby, Sapphire, Fire Red, Leaf Green, and Emerald have 9 possible natures for 31/31/31/31/31/31. These are calm, careful, docile, hardy, lax, modest, naive, rash, and timid.
----Generation 4 wonder card events may have any combination of IVs and nature. However, almost every generation 4 event is locked to not be shiny. The only exceptions are Manaphy who can be hatched shiny by transferring the egg to another save file, caught Shaymin and Darkrai from the Platinum Member Card and Oak's Letter events, and always shiny events (Eevee, Pichu, Entei, Raikou, Suicune, and Milotic).
----Generation 3 wonder card style events cannot be RNG manipulated at all. This includes the Bonus Disc / Channel Jirachi (aka, any jirachi with Body Slam) and Extremespeed Zigzagoon. Any flawless variety of these Pokemon are almost certainly hacked.
----The Wish event Pokemon are virtually non existent. Any you see offered are almost certainly hacked.
----There are no restrictions on the IVs and nature of most 5th gen wonder cards, including most of the competitively relevant ones. However, nearly all are locked to not be shiny.
The following Pokemon cannot be shiny:
Celebi
Arceus
Victini
Keldeo
Meloetta
Xerneas
Yveltal
Zygarde
----Legendaries caught in X and Y cannot be shiny.
----A Shiny mew must be Japanese, from Hoenn, and at least level 30 as the only way to obtain it was through the Old Sea Chart in emerald given out exclusively in Japan.
----The 2011 event Celebi should have the OT WIN2011. OT GAMESTP Celebi are from an unreleased event from the ripping of an unreleased wondercard rom and are hacked.
----Shiny Deoxys can only be obtained through the 3rd gen event item.
----Wild Arceus from Generation 4 are not obtainable as the event was never released.
----No Shadow Pokemon from Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness can be shiny.
----Pokemon from the Dream World, Dream Radar, and Hidden Grottoes in the 5th gen games cannot be shiny.
----A Pokemon that does not normally have a premier ribbon attached from a special event is hacked. This is the result of improperly cloning through Pokecheck. However, this does not invalidate the legality of proper clones.
----Pokemon caught or bred on X and Y have "memories" that are checkable by an NPC outside the Anistar Pokemon Center, Pokemon brought over from previous generations (including those that have been hacked to look like they are from Kalos) and 6th gen events do not have memories and will say "The Pokemon seems to have a good memory, but it doesn't seem to be able to remember...".
Regarding apricorn balls:
----Only Pokemon obtainable in the Generation IV games Heart Gold and Soul Silver can be legitimately captured in an Apricorn ball. Transferring those Pokemon to Generation VI and breeding them will allow the offspring to have an Apricorn ball, along with any egg move combination, but they cannot have their hidden ability.

Credit goes to:
- Dark Ray
- Hozu
- TheMantyke
- Esmeya
- ProjectTitan313

Posted with permission from Nexus
I'll add this to the OP.

SilentZ
28th November 2014, 11:15 PM
Alright, got some recent trades to check again, hope you guys can help as good as last time :)


Pokemon Species: Darkrai
Nickname: Darkrai
OT: ALAMOS
OT Gender: white
IDno: 05318
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 SpAtk, 252 Speed, 6 HP (might be off by some points, but it looks like it, as the max stats match)
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: modest
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Bad Dreams
Moves: Roar Of Time, Spacial Rend, Nightmare, Hypnosis (in this order)
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 50
Stats: 146/99/110/205/110/177
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh Region. Fateful encounter.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball

This almost certainly looks like a legit, although RNG manipulated, as the according to this

---Generation 4 wonder card events may have any combination of IVs and nature. it's possible.
HOWEVER, what bugs me a bit, is the order of attacks, as the event database lists them in another order for the ALAMOS Darkrai with this OTID. I know attacks can be rearranged, but i wanna be sure with it. What also bugs me is that it is fully EV trained, while still being lvl 50, only having gained a small ammount of EXP and not being cured from Pokérus (might be supertrained, but that looks odd to me for a RNG manipulated gen 4 event.



Pokemon Species: Articuno
Nickname: フリーザー (jap. Articuno)
OT: japanese name
OT Gender: white
IDno: 41545
Shiny?: yes
EV's: some in everything, i may reset them if it's necessary
IV's: "decent" evaluation, highest being Atk
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Proud of its power
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Ancient Power, Roost, Ice Beam, Fly
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 62
Stats: 189/145/128/127/172/121
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball




Pokemon Species: Dialga
Nickname: Dialga
OT: Kalei
OT Gender: white
IDno: 28512
Shiny?: yes
EV's: 252 in Speed, 252 in SpAtk, 6 in HP
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: modest
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Blizzard, Earth Power, Aura Sphere, Roar of Time
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 100
Stats: 341/248/276/438/236/279
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the SinnohRegion.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Premier Ball

This looks ok to me, as it matches the 4 possible natures for flawless Pokémon in gen 4, but you can never know.



Again a shiny Ditto, but not a flawless one this time :D

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: メタモン (jap. Ditto)
OT: japanese OT
OT Gender: white
IDno: 47130
Shiny?: yes
EV's: none
IV's: 31/14-15/18-19/31/18-19/1-2
Nature: naughty
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: 49
Current Level: 53 (propably Daycare only, as it has not gained EVs)
Stats: 130/69/65/72/58/56
Location Caught: Pokémon Village
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Repeat Ball


As i'm pretty tired right now (thanks OR!), i may have made some mistakes i'm willing to clear up if anything looks too far off, but it looks like everythings correct (right now).

Hope you can help me :)

SaltySoul
28th November 2014, 11:50 PM
Alright, got some recent trades to check again, hope you guys can help as good as last time :)


Pokemon Species: Darkrai
Nickname: Darkrai
OT: ALAMOS
OT Gender: white
IDno: 05318
Shiny?: no
EV's: 252 SpAtk, 252 Speed, 6 HP (might be off by some points, but it looks like it, as the max stats match)
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: modest
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Bad Dreams
Moves: Roar Of Time, Spacial Rend, Nightmare, Hypnosis (in this order)
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 50
Stats: 146/99/110/205/110/177
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh Region. Fateful encounter.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Cherish Ball

This almost certainly looks like a legit, although RNG manipulated, as the according to this
it's possible.
HOWEVER, what bugs me a bit, is the order of attacks, as the event database lists them in another order for the ALAMOS Darkrai with this OTID. I know attacks can be rearranged, but i wanna be sure with it. What also bugs me is that it is fully EV trained, while still being lvl 50, only having gained a small ammount of EXP and not being cured from Pokérus (might be supertrained, but that looks odd to me for a RNG manipulated gen 4 event.



Pokemon Species: Articuno
Nickname: フリーザー (jap. Articuno)
OT: japanese name
OT Gender: white
IDno: 41545
Shiny?: yes
EV's: some in everything, i may reset them if it's necessary
IV's: "decent" evaluation, highest being Atk
Nature: Lonely
Characteristic: Proud of its power
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Ancient Power, Roost, Ice Beam, Fly
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 62
Stats: 189/145/128/127/172/121
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto Region.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball




Pokemon Species: Dialga
Nickname: Dialga
OT: Kalei
OT Gender: white
IDno: 28512
Shiny?: yes
EV's: 252 in Speed, 252 in SpAtk, 6 in HP
IV's: flawless 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: modest
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Blizzard, Earth Power, Aura Sphere, Roar of Time
Level Caught at: ?
Current Level: 100
Stats: 341/248/276/438/236/279
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the SinnohRegion.
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Premier Ball

This looks ok to me, as it matches the 4 possible natures for flawless Pokémon in gen 4, but you can never know.



Again a shiny Ditto, but not a flawless one this time :D

Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: メタモン (jap. Ditto)
OT: japanese OT
OT Gender: white
IDno: 47130
Shiny?: yes
EV's: none
IV's: 31/14-15/18-19/31/18-19/1-2
Nature: naughty
Characteristic: Mischievous
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: 49
Current Level: 53 (propably Daycare only, as it has not gained EVs)
Stats: 130/69/65/72/58/56
Location Caught: Pokémon Village
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Repeat Ball


As i'm pretty tired right now (thanks OR!), i may have made some mistakes i'm willing to clear up if anything looks too far off, but it looks like everythings correct (right now).

Hope you can help me :)

Darkrai: Looks like it was RNGed. Not seeing any obvious problems.
Articuno: Looks like the owner soft reset for a shiny, given the lackluster IVs and nature.
Dialga: Looks to be a very complicated RNGed mon. No obvious issues.
Ditto: A tad suspicious that it's a 2IV shiny poke not from the Friend Safari, but it may have been luck. No obvious problems.

I'm not the best, so I'd wait on another opinion before you pass judgment (though I
might have been ninja'd, so :p)

Fissurous
29th November 2014, 1:15 AM
Just did a quick OT/TID search and couldn't find anything. There are a few anomalies with them like the 2 perfect IVs on the Ditto and the fully EV-trained Darkrai, but they're all reasonable and seem fine.
Also, does anyone know if the Mt Battle starters and XD001 (shadow Lugia) from Pokemon XD can be shiny? Thanks!

pokemonjeff
29th November 2014, 1:30 AM
Just did a quick OT/TID search and couldn't find anything. There are a few anomalies with them like the 2 perfect IVs on the Ditto and the fully EV-trained Darkrai, but they're all reasonable and seem fine.
Also, does anyone know if the Mt Battle starters and XD001 (shadow Lugia) from Pokemon XD can be shiny? Thanks!

As far as I know, the Mt battle starters can be shiny, but its obscenely rare (very nearly unheard of). Shadow lugia can't though, as its a shadow and no shadows can be. Only the wild pokemon, the starter eevee, and I believe the mt battle starters can be shiny in XD

Otjenyn
29th November 2014, 11:20 AM
Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: Ditto (jap. Ditto)
OT: リシキ-
OT Gender: white
IDno: 58417
Shiny?: no
EV's: I think 252 in HP and speed , 4 in attack
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 300 hp 133/145/132/132/175
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball

Just curious, got it via gts on X&Y for a 5 IV Ducklett with no specific egg moves, seems too much of a good deal if you ask me.

shinyclauncher1234
29th November 2014, 2:45 PM
Pokemon species:Treecko
Nickname:(in japaneese)
OT:S☆T
OT gender:White
ID No.55438
Stats:11 HP,6,5,6,5,6
Shiny?:Yes
Evs:?
Ivs:?
Nature:Rash
Charecteristic:Likes to thrash about
Ability:Overgrow
Moves:Pound,Leer
Level caught at:Unkown
Current Level:1
location caught:Unova
Egg?:?
POKEBALL IS A MASTERBALL

Plz pm Me when anyone responds.

dragontamer44722
29th November 2014, 2:49 PM
Pokemon species:Treecko
Nickname:(in japaneese)
OT:S☆T
OT gender:White
ID No.55438
Stats:11 HP,6,5,6,5,6
Shiny?:Yes
Evs:?
Ivs:?
Nature:Rash
Charecteristic:Likes to thrash about
Ability:Overgrow
Moves:Pound,Leer
Level caught at:Unkown
Current Level:1
location caught:Unova
Egg?:?
POKEBALL IS A MASTERBALL

Plz pm Me when anyone responds.

Pretty sure its impossible to breed anything into a masterball, so I'm gonna say hacked.

Fissurous
29th November 2014, 6:34 PM
Pokemon species:Treecko
Nickname:(in japaneese)
OT:S☆T
OT gender:White
ID No.55438
Stats:11 HP,6,5,6,5,6
Shiny?:Yes
Evs:?
Ivs:?
Nature:Rash
Charecteristic:Likes to thrash about
Ability:Overgrow
Moves:Pound,Leer
Level caught at:Unkown
Current Level:1
location caught:Unova
Egg?:?
POKEBALL IS A MASTERBALL

Plz pm Me when anyone responds.

Hacked because of dragontamer's reason; the only Poke Ball you can breed Pokemon into is a Poke Ball in Gen. 3-5. In Gen. 6, you can't pass down Master Balls or Cherish Balls.


Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: Ditto (jap. Ditto)
OT: リシキ-
OT Gender: white
IDno: 58417
Shiny?: no
EV's: I think 252 in HP and speed , 4 in attack
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 300 hp 133/145/132/132/175
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball

Just curious, got it via gts on X&Y for a 5 IV Ducklett with no specific egg moves, seems too much of a good deal if you ask me.
It IS unlikely that you will get a foreign, 6IV Ditto caught in Unova in a regular Poke Ball with bizarre EVs (252 EVs in Speed? For a speed-decreasing nature?) for a random Ducklett. However, the Ditto seems fine/legal and anything's possible; the trader could've felt generous or just wanted to get rid of some clones.

Otjenyn
29th November 2014, 6:55 PM
It IS unlikely that you will get a foreign, 6IV Ditto caught in Unova in a regular Poke Ball with bizarre EVs (252 EVs in Speed? For a speed-decreasing nature?) for a random Ducklett. However, the Ditto seems fine/legal and anything's possible; the trader could've felt generous or just wanted to get rid of some clones.

Hahaha yea, your reaction +1
Well, thanks for your judgement. Gonna keep it for good use, that's for sure :>

Thanks again!

FairyWitch
29th November 2014, 9:28 PM
Pokemon species:Treecko
Nickname:(in japaneese)
OT:S☆T
OT gender:White
ID No.55438
Stats:11 HP,6,5,6,5,6
Shiny?:Yes
Evs:?
Ivs:?
Nature:Rash
Charecteristic:Likes to thrash about
Ability:Overgrow
Moves:Pound,Leer
Level caught at:Unkown
Current Level:1
location caught:Unova
Egg?:?
POKEBALL IS A MASTERBALL

Plz pm Me when anyone responds.

yeah hacked there absolutely no way to get a shiny treecko in master ball at all just wanted to put my seal on this one sorry for repeating


Pokemon Species: Ditto
Nickname: Ditto (jap. Ditto)
OT: リシキ-
OT Gender: white
IDno: 58417
Shiny?: no
EV's: I think 252 in HP and speed , 4 in attack
IV's: 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Limber
Moves: Transform
Level Caught at: unknown
Current Level: 100
Stats: 300 hp 133/145/132/132/175
Location Caught: Unova
Egg?: no
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball

Just curious, got it via gts on X&Y for a 5 IV Ducklett with no specific egg moves, seems too much of a good deal if you ask me.


the ditto looks legal it is a pretty strange trade for a ducklett but as of right now I say legal but suspicious you should be fine like the post above me says...

bidoofdude
5th December 2014, 10:15 AM
Just checking some 'mons I got in a trade. Seem legit, but may as well:

Pokemon Species: Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: Doo
OT Gender: White
IDno: 37295
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: 31 in Attack, Sp.Attack and Speed
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Thunder/Dragon Pulse/Blizzard/Energy Ball
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 71
Stats:
ATK 265, DEF 139, Sp.ATK 240, Sp.DEF 126, SPD 161
Location Caught: Faraway Place
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: Met 28/11/2014, has blue pentagon (ORAS)

Pokemon Species: Kyogre
Nickname: Kyogre
OT: Chay
OT Gender: White
IDno: 09092
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: 31 in Defence, Sp.Defence and Speed
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drizzle
Moves: Body Slam/Aqua Ring/Ice Beam/Rest
Level Caught at: 45
Current Level: 45
Stats:
ATK 110, DEF 99, Sp.ATK 146, Sp.DEF 129, SPD 99
Location Caught: Faraway Place
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Met 11/27/2014, has blue pentagon (ORAS)

Any help is appreciated. :)

QuoteMissy
5th December 2014, 5:37 PM
Just checking some 'mons I got in a trade. Seem legit, but may as well:

Pokemon Species: Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: Doo
OT Gender: White
IDno: 37295
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: Not sure
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Thunder/Dragon Pulse/Blizzard/Energy Ball
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 71
Stats:
ATK 265, DEF 139, Sp.ATK 240, Sp.DEF 126, SPD 161
Location Caught: Faraway Place
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: Met 28/11/2014, has blue pentagon (ORAS)

Pokemon Species: Kyogre
Nickname: Kyogre
OT: Chay
OT Gender: White
IDno: 09092
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: Not Sure
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drizzle
Moves: Body Slam/Aqua Ring/Ice Beam/Rest
Level Caught at: 45
Current Level: 45
Stats:
ATK 110, DEF 99, Sp.ATK 146, Sp.DEF 129, SPD 99
Location Caught: Faraway Place
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Met 11/27/2014, has blue pentagon (ORAS)

Any help is appreciated. :)

Although there is still testing on whether or not the story legends are shiny-locked or not (http://www.serebii.net/games/shiny.shtml), I'd still be suspicious of these two, where did you get these two from? Did the trader know where these originated from?

bidoofdude
5th December 2014, 11:31 PM
Traded from a forum member. The original message:

"Hi!

I saw that you needed some pokemons that i got, but i don't know where they are from (how can i see that ?) anyway, if you wanna trade."

There is also a video on their summaries when I asked to see them, which was just the summary information.

I'm going to do an IV check today (didn't have any time yesterday) so I'll post an update.

EDIT: Added IVs

pokemonjeff
6th December 2014, 1:36 AM
Although there is still testing on whether or not the story legends are shiny-locked or not (http://www.serebii.net/games/shiny.shtml), I'd still be suspicious of these two, where did you get these two from? Did the trader know where these originated from?

I'm pretty sure the location being "faraway place" makes them hacks. Doesn't that description come from gen 3 games? Current gen ones should say (For rayquaza) "met at sky pillar" and for groudon (and therefore kyogre) should say "Met at cave of origin". If it doesn't say something to that effect, it isn't 6th gen born and is therefore hacked.

@Bidoofdude I would request a tradeback as I highly doubt those mons are legit.

ninjaethan
6th December 2014, 1:43 AM
Species: Bulbasaur
Nickname: Bulbasaur
OT: Karma
OT Gender: IDK, has white text
ID #: 01361
Shiny?: Yes
EVS: IDK
IVS: The guy in Kiloude City says it's 6 IVS (Flawless)
Nature: Modest
Characteristics: Mischievous
Ability: Chlorophyll
Moves: Tackle
Level Caught at: It was bred
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6 (In order)
Location Caught: Travelled through time & space to reach Kalos from Unova
Egg: Obviously
Pokeball: IDK, but resembles a Safari Ball (Could be wrong though)
Other notes?: Nope

Requiem Aeternam
6th December 2014, 1:48 AM
Species: Bulbasaur
Nickname: Bulbasaur
OT: Karma
OT Gender: IDK, has white text
ID #: 01361
Shiny?: Yes
EVS: IDK
IVS: The guy in Kiloude City says it's 6 IVS (Flawless)
Nature: Modest
Characteristics: Mischievous
Ability: Chlorophyll
Moves: Tackle
Level Caught at: It was bred
Current Level: 1
Stats: Not in the game right now..
Location Caught: Travelled through time & space to reach Kalos from Unova
Egg: Obviously
Pokeball: IDK, but resembles a Safari Ball (Could be wrong though)
Other notes?: Nope

Pretty sure this one is hacked as it has its HA, is shiny and is from Gen5. AFAIK, Dream World Pokemon were unable to be shiny and this is the only way to get a HA Bulbasaur before XY. Also the lowest level the DW one could be was Lv10. Lastly, if it was hatched that would mean that the female would have had its HA which wasn't possible as the DW Bulbasaur could only be male. It would also be in a standard PokeBall as opposed to a Safari Ball.

FairyWitch
6th December 2014, 1:51 AM
Traded from a forum member. The original message:

"Hi!

I saw that you needed some pokemons that i got, but i don't know where they are from (how can i see that ?) anyway, if you wanna trade."

There is also a video on their summaries when I asked to see them, which was just the summary information.

I'm going to do an IV check today (didn't have any time yesterday) so I'll post an update.

EDIT: Added IVs

anyway bidoofdude did the kyogre and rayquaza exactly say that it was from faraway place? or did it say this seems to have been traveled across both space and time to reach you from the hoenn region. Anything that is transferred from the older games say "seems to have been traveled across both space and time to reach you from the (insert region here) region". I have alot of my rngs sent over saying that which are legal. If it does say what i said and not faraway place the next step is we need the ivs to check to see if its hacked or not if it came from the 3rd gen cartridges.


Species: Bulbasaur
Nickname: Bulbasaur
OT: Karma
OT Gender: IDK, has white text
ID #: 01361
Shiny?: Yes
EVS: IDK
IVS: The guy in Kiloude City says it's 6 IVS (Flawless)
Nature: Modest
Characteristics: Mischievous
Ability: Chlorophyll
Moves: Tackle
Level Caught at: It was bred
Current Level: 1
Stats: 12, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6 (In order)
Location Caught: Travelled through time & space to reach Kalos from Unova
Egg: Obviously
Pokeball: IDK, but resembles a Safari Ball (Could be wrong though)
Other notes?: Nope

oh my this defiantly hacked you can't get shiny bulbasaur ha in older games in dream world as well doesn't allow safari ball which male is the only which it can't breed hidden ability. So much screams hacked.

ninjaethan
6th December 2014, 1:54 AM
Ah, OK thanks xD

It was worth it, since I only traded a ♂LV 51 Togetic non-shiny anyway...

QuoteMissy
6th December 2014, 3:38 AM
I'm pretty sure the location being "faraway place" makes them hacks. Doesn't that description come from gen 3 games? Current gen ones should say (For rayquaza) "met at sky pillar" and for groudon (and therefore kyogre) should say "Met at cave of origin". If it doesn't say something to that effect, it isn't 6th gen born and is therefore hacked.

@Bidoofdude I would request a tradeback as I highly doubt those mons are legit.

He's reading that off his X/Y game, OR/AS locations show up as "faraway place" Also, re-read the entries:


Just checking some 'mons I got in a trade. Seem legit, but may as well:

Pokemon Species: Rayquaza
Nickname: Rayquaza
OT: Doo
OT Gender: White
IDno: 37295
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: 31 in Attack, Sp.Attack and Speed
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Air Lock
Moves: Thunder/Dragon Pulse/Blizzard/Energy Ball
Level Caught at: 70
Current Level: 71
Stats:
ATK 265, DEF 139, Sp.ATK 240, Sp.DEF 126, SPD 161
Location Caught: Faraway Place
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: Met 28/11/2014, has blue pentagon (ORAS)

Pokemon Species: Kyogre
Nickname: Kyogre
OT: Chay
OT Gender: White
IDno: 09092
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: 31 in Defence, Sp.Defence and Speed
Nature: Naughty
Characteristic: Capable of taking hits
Ability: Drizzle
Moves: Body Slam/Aqua Ring/Ice Beam/Rest
Level Caught at: 45
Current Level: 45
Stats:
ATK 110, DEF 99, Sp.ATK 146, Sp.DEF 129, SPD 99
Location Caught: Faraway Place
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: Met 11/27/2014, has blue pentagon (ORAS)

Any help is appreciated. :)


they have the pentagon marks they DO originate from 6th gen.

FairyWitch
6th December 2014, 3:43 AM
He's reading that off his X/Y game, OR/AS locations show up as "faraway place" Also, re-read the entries:




they have the pentagon marks.

you know what your right he must have a x and y game for it to say faraway place that makes more sense i forgot about that part and lol i missed the pentagon marks too just saw them now so yeah as of right now were not sure its still in testing.

pokemonjeff
6th December 2014, 4:02 AM
He's reading that off his X/Y game, OR/AS locations show up as "faraway place" Also, re-read the entries:




they have the pentagon marks they DO originate from 6th gen.


I didn't realize "faraway place" meant hoenn from ORAS. Thats the tag that used to be used for Orre back in the day, and so on. I kind of just assumed X/Y read it as hoenn.

Also, not to spoil that, but the blue pentagon can be fabricated. It can be added to any mon, even one born of older gens. Unfortunately, just because a pokemon has those, doesn't mean its not bologna.

I would still call them bad. As far as its known, Ray/Kyogre can't be shiny. With all the hundreds if not thousands playing here, surely someone would have it on pictures or video of them getting it. We have all of the others already.

bidoofdude
6th December 2014, 4:51 AM
I'm pretty sure the location being "faraway place" makes them hacks. Doesn't that description come from gen 3 games? Current gen ones should say (For rayquaza) "met at sky pillar" and for groudon (and therefore kyogre) should say "Met at cave of origin". If it doesn't say something to that effect, it isn't 6th gen born and is therefore hacked.

@Bidoofdude I would request a tradeback as I highly doubt those mons are legit.

They were on my X game. I've traded them over to OR. Kyogre was met at Cave of Origin and Rayquaza at Sky Pillar. From everything I can see, the only way we can work out their legitimacy is from the conclusion of shiny testing for the mascots and Rayquaza.

FairyWitch
6th December 2014, 6:40 AM
I didn't realize "faraway place" meant hoenn from ORAS. Thats the tag that used to be used for Orre back in the day, and so on. I kind of just assumed X/Y read it as hoenn.

Also, not to spoil that, but the blue pentagon can be fabricated. It can be added to any mon, even one born of older gens. Unfortunately, just because a pokemon has those, doesn't mean its not bologna.

I would still call them bad. As far as its known, Ray/Kyogre can't be shiny. With all the hundreds if not thousands playing here, surely someone would have it on pictures or video of them getting it. We have all of the others already.

you really can't go around just saying its hacked without proof that it can't be shiny which im not saying it legal either there still testing them out so right now so the case is still in question but anyway doesn't always mean its hacked the game has been out for at least a few weeks now give it some time. I think we all should wait until they officially confirm a video that shows that it can be shiny before we make any accusations its hacked or not.

pokemonjeff
6th December 2014, 7:04 AM
you really can't go around just saying its hacked without proof that it can't be shiny which im not saying it legal either there still testing them out so right now so the case is still in question but anyway doesn't always mean its hacked the game has been out for at least a few weeks now give it some time. I think we all should wait until they officially confirm a video that shows that it can be shiny before we make any accusations its hacked or not.

I'm not saying they are officially bad. But no news is bad news in this case. Its been out for over two weeks now and we have no confirmation on just them, but we have it on everything else? I would call that bad. If we see news otherwise though, that would be much better.

I suppose there is a slim chance that they are legit, yes. But as far as retrading them goes, I would seriously warn against it as they are probably bad.

Again, I'm not saying that they are 100% bad. It is possibly, although slim, for them to be legit. But, since all current information points to bad, I would call it bad and would strongly recommend against trading them. Also, I'm not accusing them of being hacks. I'm just saying that all current information leads to foul play on shiny weather trios. I'd also wager that, according to the current serebii site, they are shiny locked and I believe that we should use that for reference to this specific case.

ASDS123123
6th December 2014, 10:21 PM
Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: In Japanese
OT: TPN
OT Gender: Unsure
IDno: 11145
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: Unknown
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Thief/Transform/Attract/Metronome
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 41
Stats:
ATK 80, DEF 100, Sp.ATK 100, Sp.DEF 98, SPD 110
Location Caught: Hoenn Region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: None

Mr G W
7th December 2014, 2:18 AM
I've noticed that some event pokemon can be found in the gts (celebi, jirachi, darkray, shaymin, victini, keldeo and diancie).

Is there any possibility that those could be legit (particularly shaymin and darkray caught in platinum) or are they all hacks?

CrusherTheFeraligatr
7th December 2014, 2:20 AM
I've noticed that some event pokemon can be found in the gts (celebi, jirachi, darkray, shaymin, victini, keldeo and diancie).

Is there any possibility that those could be legit (particularly shaymin and darkray caught in platinum) or are they all hacks?

I wouldn't say officially without seeing them, but yeah, likely hacks.

dewey911p
7th December 2014, 3:15 AM
I've noticed that some event pokemon can be found in the gts (celebi, jirachi, darkray, shaymin, victini, keldeo and diancie).

Is there any possibility that those could be legit (particularly shaymin and darkray caught in platinum) or are they all hacks?

Eevnt pokemon that were catchable in game but only accessible via an event item can freely be traded over the GTS, these include Darkrai and Shaymin from Platinum, Mew and Deoxys from Emerald. and Victini and Arceus from B/W. Some older event pokemon were distributed without an event ribbon and could also be freely traded over the GTS, such as Celebi, Jirachi, and Mew (as well as a TRU Regigigas). Most gen 4-6 events come with an event ribbon and cannot be traded over the GTS. So, if you see something like Keldeo, Genesect, or Diancie on the GTS, and those pokemon were only distributed with an event ribbon, then it is a sure sign those are hacked. It is somewhat risky to trade for other event legends like Platinum Shaymin or Darkrai because event legends are a common target for hackers, but they can be offered on the GTS from legitimate traders, too.

I'm not sure if the gen 6 GTS blocks ribboned pokemon, but last I heard this was still the case.

bidoofdude
7th December 2014, 4:43 AM
Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: In Japanese
OT: TPN
OT Gender: Unsure
IDno: 11145
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: Unknown
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Thief/Transform/Attract/Metronome
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 41
Stats:
ATK 80, DEF 100, Sp.ATK 100, Sp.DEF 98, SPD 110
Location Caught: Hoenn Region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: None

Shiny Mew is only available on Faraway Island on a Japanese Emerald game. You've got Hoenn going for you, not sure about the unknown caught level.

Fissurous
7th December 2014, 5:19 AM
Pokemon Species: Mew
Nickname: In Japanese
OT: TPN
OT Gender: Unsure
IDno: 11145
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Unknown
IV's: Unknown
Nature: Timid
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Synchronize
Moves: Thief/Transform/Attract/Metronome
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 41
Stats:
ATK 80, DEF 100, Sp.ATK 100, Sp.DEF 98, SPD 110
Location Caught: Hoenn Region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Masterball
Any other notes?: None
Looks fine, I've seen this Mew before and I'm pretty sure it's just an RNG'd clone.

dragontamer44722
7th December 2014, 3:00 PM
So I have an inquiry. I received a Meloetta from an RNG'er, and everything on it checks out, but it has an English name and its from Japan. its the Eigakan Meloetta. I think it is possible if the person who RNG'd the Meloetta had an English game, hence the English name, but I wanted to be sure. its level 100 so I can't check it that way.

dewey911p
7th December 2014, 3:40 PM
So I have an inquiry. I received a Meloetta from an RNG'er, and everything on it checks out, but it has an English name and its from Japan. its the Eigakan Meloetta. I think it is possible if the person who RNG'd the Meloetta had an English game, hence the English name, but I wanted to be sure. its level 100 so I can't check it that way.

Gen 5 events were region specific, so if it has a Japanese tag but an English name, it's hacked. Do note, though,, that the game will display the pokemon's name in the game's language, so you have to look in the right place to see if the name is truely in English. My memory is shoddy on where the right name is, but I think the name in the upper right hand corner of the summary page is the language of the game and the Pokemon's name on the actual summary card is the original language of the pokemon. If both names are English, it's hacked.

dragontamer44722
7th December 2014, 3:48 PM
Ah I see, so it is a hack then. darn xD Oh well, thanks for the help.

dislocate
7th December 2014, 8:01 PM
Pokemon Species: Dialga
Nickname: Dialga
OT: Sayuri
OT Gender: White
IDno: 11536
Shiny?: No
EV's: 252 Sp. Attack 122 Hp 126 Attack
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Mild
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Draco Meteor, Fire Blast, Brick Break, Thunder
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 100
Stats: 341/276/248/369/236/216
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Timer ball (i think)
Any other notes?: From GTS

Pokemon Species: Palkia
Nickname: Palkia
OT: Ash
OT Gender: White
IDno: 01337
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: 85 Sp. Attack 85 Hp 85 Attack 85 Defense 85 Speed 85 Sp.Def
IV's: 6 perfect ivs
Nature: Hardy
Characteristic: Somewhat vain
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Hydro Pump, Aura Sphere, Earth Power, Spacial Rend
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 50
Stats: 165/140/120/170/140/120
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Pokeball
Any other notes?: From GTS

Pokemon Species: Palkia
Nickname: Charm
OT: Zog
OT Gender: White
IDno: 37558
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: 202 Sp. Attack 56 Attack 252 Speed
IV's: No perfect ivs
Nature: Hasty
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Pressure
Moves: Spacial Rend, Incinerate, Earthquake, Surf
Level Caught at: Don't know
Current Level: 100
Stats: 319/274/187/332/270/259
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Sinnoh region
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Some purple ball
Any other notes?: From GTS

Zena
7th December 2014, 8:05 PM
Due to being given this pokemon in school. I want to know if this pokemon is legit or not. I received it awhile ago and ran it through the pokebank. But I still wish to make sure. Thank you in advance.

Pokemon Species: Ninetales
Nickname: Not nick-named
OT: CODY
OT Gender: Female (red) (This is the pokemon's gender. If you are asking for the trainers gender color. It was white. This pokemon is currently sitting in my X game)
IDno: 62660
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Not known
IV's: Not known
Nature: Bashful
Characteristic: Strong willed
Ability: Flash fire
Moves: Psyshock, Flamethrower, Quick attack, Flame charge
Level Caught at: n/a
Current Level: 67
Stats:
Attack: 121
Defense: 139
Sp. Atk: 132
Sp. Def: 161
Speed: 164
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Johto region.
Egg?: Nope
Pokeball Caught In: pokeball
Any other notes?: It had pokerus but is cured. (Has smiley mark) Was given to me from a person at school who wanted a ditto for it.

Edit: Had mild confusion as to what OT was. ^^; So more info there to clarify in case I made a mistake.

dragontamer44722
7th December 2014, 9:38 PM
I have 2 pokemon I would like checked.

Pokemon Species:Diancie
Nickname:none
OT:Eigakan (in japanese but thats the romanized version)
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno:07194
Shiny?:no
EV's: (if known) maxed out speed and Spatk, the rest in attack
IV's: (if known): 6ivs
Nature:Naive
Characteristic:Capable of taking hits
Ability:Clear Body
Moves:Diamond Storm, Moonblast,HIdden POwer,Psychic
Level Caught at:50
Current Level:50
Stats: hp=125, atk=120, def=170, spatk=151, spdef=153, spd=111
Location Caught:POkemon Movie 14
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In:Cherish
Any other notes?: I'm playing it safe. I think its possible for the ot to be Japanese and the name be in English. It's tag says its French, and it does have the wishing Ribbon

Pokemon Species:Shaymin
Nickname:none
OT:AzuNyan
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male)
IDno:25734
Shiny?:yes
EV's: (if known)maxed out speed and special attack, the rest in special def
IV's: (if known)6ivs
Nature:Timid
Characteristic:Takes plenty of siestas
Ability:Natural Cure
Moves:Leech Seed, Substitute,Seed Flare, Air Slash
Level Caught at:n/a
Current Level:100
Stats:341, 212, 236, 299, 237, 328
Location Caught:Sinnoh
Egg?:no
Pokeball Caught In:Premier ball
Any other notes?:I think it is possible for a Shaymin to be shiny, but I'm playing it safe.