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Zalbar
30th March 2011, 10:09 AM
Welcome To
The Little League
Your Home For Casually Competitive Low Level Battles
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a80/destroll/littleleague.png
Credit for banner goes to Pupintheturd

LEVEL 5 <===== LEVEL 10 ====> LEVEL 25





INTRODUCTION

Hello, and welcome to The Little League!
The Little League is a Gen.V WI-FI Only competitive battle league which focuses exclusively on low level Pokemon battles.

We offer *THREE* separate divisions to play in within the league:
Level 5, Level 10 and Level 25.

Level 5 is NFE exclusive, and follows most Little Cup standards.
Only Pokemon from the NFE tier that are naturally available at LEVEL 5 are eligible.
All Pokemon must be able to evolve, and be at thier earliest stage of evolution.


Level 10 is similar in almost every regard to LC except that it is done at level 10.
All rules that apply for the Level 5 division will apply here as well.

Level 25 is an NFE/NU mixed division.
Any Pokemon from either list that are naturally available at LEVEL 25 are eligible.


Please keep in mind there will be periods where all battles will conducted in a casual environment.
However this is a competitive league. If you sign up, be prepared to battle.

You may deny a challenge, however *IT IS* in your best interest to accept as many challenges as you can.

*Your progress within the league will be determined by how many battles you win!*

Every week all players win/loss records will be updated with thier results from the battle challenges they fought that week.

Wins will count as +1.
Losses will be counted as -1.
Ties are equal to 0.




THE RULES


THE SPPF RULES:
Follow and abide by all SPPF Rules (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=397567).
Fail to comply with these rules and you will be reported.



RULES OF CONDUCT:
Do not spam the thread, post one liners, or make any posts not directly related to The Little League.

Do not troll, bait, flame, or harass in anyway.

Do not post any offensive material, use offensive language, register any pokemon for your team(s) with offensive nicknames, or reveal the movesets the other competitors are using for thier pokemon.
Be respectful to each other & league staff.

LEAGUE RULES:
Standard Rules (http://www.serebiiforums.com/showpost.php?p=7261481&postcount=1) apply.
This includes:

Sleep Clause
Species Clause
Evasion Clause
OHKO Clause
No Hacks
No Hax Items
No Disconnections in order to avoid a loss.

The Following Non-Standard Rules Apply:
A) No Legendaries.

B) All Pokemon registered for the Level 5 & Level 10 divisions must be in the NFE tier, capable of evolving, and at thier earliest stage of evolution.
All Pokemon registered for the Level 25 division must be in the NFE or NU tiers

C) Due to the levels involved the moves Dragon Rage and Sonic Boom are banned from use in the Level 5 and 10 divisions. Dragon Rage is also banned from the Level 25 division.

D) For the sake of sportsmanship a slightly altered Self KO Rule is in effect.

In the event that both players are down to thier last pokemon and 1 uses the move(s) Destiny Bond, Perish Song, Self Destruct, or Explosion to force a tie, the player that used the move is considered to have forfiet the battle. Use of these these moves under any other circumstances is permitted with no penalty what so ever.




You may join all 3 leagues, but you may ONLY participate in the playoffs/championships for one of them!

In the event that a player has earned enough points to qualify for the playoffs in multiple divisions they MUST choose which division's playoffs to join.
The person with the next highest point total will then take their spot in the playoffs for the division they choose not to participate in.

Use of hacked Pokemon and/or Illegal Movesets is stricktly prohibited.

Only use Pokemon from the species you listed when registering your team.

Do not attempt to register "joke" teams.

You may only request 1 change in line up per season. Changes will not be permitted during The Playoffs.

Do not bring any Pokemon to a battle that are not of the appropriate level for your division. Failure to comply with this will result in an automatic forfieture of the fight.

Inactivity

If you are inactive for longer than 1 week you will be removed from the "Active" roster.
If you are inactive for 2 weeks you will be removed from the league and will need to reapply when you return.
If you are removed from the league due to inactivity (or breaking the rules) all points you have earned will be forfeit.

League Staff May Register But...

League staff members, at thier own discretion, may register to join The Little League, take part in the Challenge Battles, and earn points.
All rules that apply to other challengers will apply to them if they choose to do so.
HOWEVER anyone who has been a member of The Little League staff may *NOT* enter the semi-final, final, or championship rounds during any season they were a part of the staff for.
THIS IS NON-NEGOTIABLE.
If you join the staff for even 1 day, you automatically forfeit any rights to join the playoffs for that season.




HOW IT ALL WORKS:
REGISTER:

Registrations can be made in this thread or by PMing me.
If you send your registration to me by PM please title the PM "Little League Registration".

You may register any time before a season starts, or during a regular season.
Any registrations recieved during the playoffs will be considered as a registration for the FOLLOWING season.
In order to register your team you must fill out the folllowing form:


Trainer Name:
B/W FC:
Division(s):
Roster: LIST OF 6 TO 10 SPECIES OF POKEMON (PER DEVISION).

The following is an example only:



Trainer Name: Zalbar
B/W FC: 0905 2045 6606
Division(s): 10, 25
Roster:
10
Pichu Bulbasaur Squirtle Charmander Geodude Whismur Bagon Zubat Pinco Poochyena
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25
Butterfree Bellossom Delcatty Girafarig Haunter Charmeleon Golem Machoke Pikachu



Challenges:

Every Sunday night (as close to Midnight EST as I can get), I will assign opponents as challenges to all contestants involved using an RNG.
Depending on the size of each division I may assign a maximum of up 7 challenges per week.
You will have until MIDNIGHT(EST) the following Sunday night to complete them and report the results.
Wins against your opponent will net 1 point.
Losses will subtract 1 point.
In the event of a tie no points will be awarded/subtracted.
It will be up to each player to keep track of who thier weekly challenges are.

Once I or a staff member have made the score and challenge updates it will be up to you as the players to get in contact with one another and arrange to meet at a mutually agreeable time.

If you can not agree on a time, or one(both) of you are unable to compete, move on to your other challenges or wait for your new challenges to be assigned the following week.

Please do not harass one another just because you can not agree on a time.
See: SPPF Rules on harassment, Little League rules of conduct #2.

If you can not get in contact with another player to complete your challenges no points will be awarded/subtracted.

Please notify me or another Little League staff member so we may check for inactivity in these instances.

If there is a dispute/concern about something that occured in a battle, please save your battle as a battle video, upload it to Nintendo's Wi-Fi server, and include the video's search number in your post.


BATTLES:

All REGULAR season battles will be conducted in 1v1 3:3 format. (1 pokemon at a time, 3 pokemon on a team.)
Best 2 out of 3 matches wins.
Bring 6 of the Pokemon you listed when registering to each battle.
When posting your results, please list the scores for all 3 rounds against each opponent.

If you comeplete more than 1 challenge in a day EDIT the results of each subsiquent Battle Challenge into the first post you made that announced the results of your previous match(es).
A maximum of 3 points may be earned each day.



Points and The Playoffs.

As has been stated before, 1 point will be awarded for each victory in a Challenge Battle, and 1 point will be deducted for each loss.

At the end of 8 weeks of regular season play, each players points will be added up, and the season will end.

The players with the top 8 point totals from each league (barring staff members) will then proceed to our own version of the playoffs.

ALL playoff battles will be fought in a 1v1 6:6 format. (1 pokemon at a time, team of 6).

The Semi-Finals will be played best 2 out of 3.

The Finals will be played best 3 out of 5.

The Championship round will be best 4 out of 7.

After a champion has been declared for each division, The Little League will "shut down" for one week to give the staff and myself a break.

I would like to recommend you register your teams for the next season during these intervals, and use them to practise your teams out so you are all ready when the Little League starts back up.


Prizes:

Still working on this.
Will attempt to get some "Champion" banners/user bars made.
Open to suggestions for other prizes/extra prizes.

Try to remember:

PLEASE check your roster before submitting it! MAKE SURE the pokemon you are attempting to register with are from the NFE tier if you join the Level 5 or Level 10 Divisions or the NFE and NU tiers for the level 25 Division!

The whole point of this is to have fun.
No, really... Have fun!
Try to keep this whole thing as casual and friendly as you can. :D






Want a cool Little League User Bar for your sig?

Userbar 1
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/LittleLeagueUserbar.png
Userbar 1

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/LittleLeagueUserbar.png

Userbar 2
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/KantoLittleLeague.png
Userbar 2

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/KantoLittleLeague.png

Userbar 3
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Userbar 3

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/JhotoLittleLeague.png

Userbar 4
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/HoennLittleLeague.png
Userbar 4

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/HoennLittleLeague.png

Userbar 5
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/SinnohLittleLeague.png
Userbar 5

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/SinnohLittleLeague.png

Userbar 6
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/UnovaLittleLeague.png
Useerbar 6

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/UnovaLittleLeague.png

Userbar 7
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Competitor1.png
Userbar 7

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Competitor1.png

Userbar 8
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Competitor2.png
Userbar 8

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Competitor2.png

Userbar 9
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Pro2.png
Userbar 9

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Pro2.png

Userbar 10
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/NationalLittleLeague.gif
Userbar 10

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/NationalLittleLeague.gif





There's just 1 simple catch to using them: level99love made these banners.

If you want to use one in your sig you need give her credit for her work.
The credit given must be in plain sight, don't hide it in a spoiler.
Failure to give proper credit for any artwork in your signatures is against SPPF rules.
As such anyone NOT giving credit will be disallowed from participating in the league.




Due to some minor confusion with attempted registrations I'm adding the URLs to the Tier lists we are using here:

These are all the pokemon that were on the NFE & NU tiers for Gen.4
http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/nu
http://www.smogon.com/dp/tiers/nfe




To the best of my knowledge an "official" Gen 5 tier listing hasn't been introduced yet as more testing is still needed.
However many people are using currently using the tiers listed at Pokemon Online, so that's what we're going by here until a finalized Gen 5 tier listing has been made.

http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?5270-Gen-5-Tier-List
http://pokemon-online.eu/forums/showthread.php?5702-April-2011-LU-tiers


This is relevant for both lvl 5& lvl 10 divisions and was quoted from the most recent update to the PO LC tiers list.

All non-first stage evolution Pokemon are banned. All non-evolving Pokemon are banned. In addition, the following are banned: Berry Juice (Item), Dragon Rage (Move), Moody (Ability), Murkrow, Scraggy, Scyther, Sneasel, SonicBoom (Move), Tangela, Vulpix, Yanma








CURRENT LITTLE LEAGUE STATUS:
NOW ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR ALL 3 DIVISIONS!
TENTITIVE START DATE FOR SEASON 1 IS MAY 1ST.





CURRENT LITTLE LEAGUE STAFF MEMBERS:
SENIOR STAFF MEMBER: Zalbar
SENIOR STAFF MEMBER:
STAFF MEMBER:
STAFF MEMBER:

If you have any questions or comments please PM/VM me or another member of the Little League staff.

Archangel
3rd April 2011, 8:15 AM
Approved , sorry for the wait

Zalbar
3rd April 2011, 8:33 AM
THANK YOU ARCHANGEL!
You are the awesome! :D

REGISTRATIONS ARE NOW OPEN!




CURRENT ROSTERS




Level 5

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1) Dasdardly
Trainer Name: Das
B/W FC: 0819 3175 0880
Division: 5
Roster: Drifloon Croagunk Chinchou Kabuto Bulbasaur Shelder Eevee Dratini Shieldon Mienfoo
POINTS: 0
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2) Skevengal
Trainer Name: Erik
B/W FC: 4684-7963-3819
Division: 5
Roster: Cyndaquil, Rhyhorn, Skorupi, Krabby, Cleffa, Munchlax, Feebas, Bagon, Darumaka.
POINTS: 0
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3) Soluna
Trainer Name:
B/W FC:
Division: 5
Roster:
POINTS: 0
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Level 10

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1) KickAsh
Trainer Name:SH'ANE
B/W FC: 1721 2479 7656
Division: 10
Roster: Munchlax Ghastly Axew Croagunk Electrike Growlithe
POINTS: 0
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2) Manaphione123
Trainer Name: Black
B/W FC: 0132 1770 9167
Division: 10
Roster: Ghastly Chimchar Mudkip Snivy Blitzle Yamask Tirtouga
POINTS: 0
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3) level99love
Trainer Name: Kylie
B/W FC: Varies. Please contact this challenger for details
DIVISION: 10
Roster: Pansage, Pansear, Panpour, Riolu, Duskull, Ralts, Porygon, Zubat, Larvitar, Zorua
POINTS: 0
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4) Skevengal
Trainer Name: Erik
B/W FC: 4684-7963-3819
Division: 10
Roster: Cyndaquil, Rhyhorn, Skorupi, Krabby, Cleffa, Munchlax, Feebas, Bagon, Darumaka.
POINTS: 0
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5) Throhlurk
Trainer Name: bass
B/W FC: 3482 1973 6701
Division: 10
Roster: Lickitung, zigzagoon, cyndaquill, makuhita, cottonee, mantyke
POINTS: 0
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6) Dasdardly
Trainer Name: Das
B/W FC: 0819 3175 0880
Division: 5
Roster: Drifloon Croagunk Chinchou Kabuto Bulbasaur Shelder Eevee Dratini Shieldon Mienfoo
POINTS: 0
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Level 25

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1) Skevengal
TRAINER NAME: Erik
B/W FC: 4684-7963-3819
Division: AA
Roster: Pikachu, Trapinch, Vigoroth, Hippoptas, Krabby, Drowzee, Quilava, Skorupi
POINTS: 0
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Level 5 Inactive

none yet






Level 10 Inactive

none yet







Level 25 Inactive

none yet







BANNED

none yet



*I AM CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR 2 - 3 STAFF MEMBERS FOR THIS PROJECT*
If you would be interested in joining the Little League staff PM me for information/details. :)

Most Recent Edit:
Added Skevengal to level 5 division.
Added Soluna's SPPF user name and 3 pokes to lvl 5 division, not much else info has been given yet though. :p

KickAsh
3rd April 2011, 9:12 PM
Trainer Name: SH'ANE
Black FC: 1721 2479 7656
Division: AA
Roster: Munchlax, Gastly, Axew, Croagunk, Electrike, Growlithe

Manaphione123
4th April 2011, 1:23 PM
I see you got this up and running. Well done sir. Our planning payed off. I will post my registration at a later time as I only have 3 eligible Pokémon at the moment. Also, what would being a member of staff do for me? I am interested.

Zalbar
4th April 2011, 3:50 PM
Staff members would enjoy endless hours of helping me sift through the challenge reports.

They would need to determine whose scores need to be adjusted and in what manner honestly and without bias.

They would also listen to complaints, help resolve disputes, use the RNG to assign challenges on the off chance I can't make it 1 night, and make decisions on how any one particular situation needs to be handled.

Think of it as a cross between a Referee and a PR job, but without any paychecks and with everyone probably hating you.

However, you'll be there to help keep everything running smoothly since there's no way I can stay up for 8 weeks straight even with my chronic insomnia.

Oh and you can't play in the play offs. :D

Sounds absolutey inticing now I bet!

Actually it won't be nearly that bad, but if you actually are interested just do like it says in the above post and PM me, I'll attempt to be a little more serious about it to anyone that sends a PM.
No garuntees though. >_>

Manaphione123
5th April 2011, 12:02 PM
Trainer Name: Black
Black FC: 0132 1770 9167
Division: AAA
Roster: Gastly, Chimchar, Mudkip, Snivy, Blitzle, Yamask, Tirtouga

level99love
6th April 2011, 9:31 AM
TRAINER NAME: Kylie
B/W FRIEND CODE: Varies due to multiple DS's currently:2537 3552 8582
DIVISION(S) REGISTERING FOR: AAA
POKEMON TEAM:LIST OF 6 TO 10 SPECIES OF POKEMON (PER DEVISION).
Ralts, Porygon, Riolu, Zubat, Beldum, Pidgey, Larvitar, Yanma, Duskull, Zorua.


*Edit* Did not notice the pre evolution rule, I skimmed and did not read through everything sorry. >.<

Manaphione123
6th April 2011, 11:21 AM
I like what you've done to your sig level99love. Hey, Zalbar, could you make us some or ask someone to make them for us? I would like a banner of some kind in my sig to advertise this. Also, really glad people are signing up to this. This is going to be fun.

Zalbar
6th April 2011, 2:59 PM
@Manaphione123: Wish granted.

level99love was kind enough to allow us the use of her userbar for everyone participating in The Little League.
The OP has been updated to reflect this, and has the url of the userbar in it now.



EVERYONE PLEASE REMEMBER: If you put the userbar in your sig, give level99love credit for it!



@level99love:
Thank you very much for your generosity in this.
I appreciate it a lot. :)

level99love
7th April 2011, 1:09 AM
I had some free time, and I thought I'd make this thread another Userbar.

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/LittleLeagueStaffUserbar.png

Zalbar
7th April 2011, 1:14 AM
lol.
Thanks again level99love.
I'll make sure the staff members when they're finalized get that in thier sigs.
:)

Manaphione123
7th April 2011, 11:03 AM
level99love I have been recently informed that you misspelled league in the userbar in my sig.

Zalbar
7th April 2011, 4:10 PM
Just a quick heads up.
I've had to reject a few applications that were PMed to me because of people attempting to register teams full of inelligible Pokemon.
Before applying please read the entire first post.
I've also added links to the first post that will take you to Smogon's Gen.4 NFE and NU tier lists, as well as the most recent tier listings on Pokemon Online.

Please read these lists before submitting your applications.
I'm not fond of having to reject people's teams.

If you are on of the persons who sent me an application that was rejected, just go back, make sure all the pokemon you want for your team are elligible and re-submit your updated app.
As long as all your pokemon are elligible to enter you will be added to the roster.

level99love
7th April 2011, 5:06 PM
Hey guys, about an hour ago I decided I really want this to work and I am very excited about it, so I have a ton of userbars I made for it :).

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/KantoLittleLeague.png
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/JhotoLittleLeague.png
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/HoennLittleLeague.png
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/SinnohLittleLeague.png
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/UnovaLittleLeague.png

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Competitor1.png
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Competitor2.png

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Pro2.png


http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/NationalLittleLeague.gif

*Edit* Forgot to put in codes, they are in order as they are in image form.
*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/KantoLittleLeague.png
*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/JhotoLittleLeague.png
*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/HoennLittleLeague.png
*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/SinnohLittleLeague.png
*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/UnovaLittleLeague.png

*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Competitor1.png
*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Competitor2.png

*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/Pro2.png

*http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l545/level99love/NationalLittleLeague.gif

There we go, the order is: Kanto (Rookie), Jhoto (Rookie), Hoenn (Rookie), Sinnoh (Rookie), Unova (Rookie), Competitor 1, Competitor 2, Pro, Animation Rookie.

level99love
7th April 2011, 5:29 PM
Zalbar,
After taking another good look at the rules, I would like to request my Pokemon roster change, that I get once per season.
For my new roster, I would like the following Pokemon:
Pansage, Pansear, Panpour, Riolu, Duskull, Ralts, Porygon, Zubat, Larvitar and finally Zorua.
I am 99% sure that all my Pokemon are eligible to be entered in this competition. Please notify me if any prior Pokemon listed are ineligible.

Manaphione123
7th April 2011, 7:04 PM
I am insanely pleased and amazed at the effort you went to to do this Kylie. (I prefer to call you that than having to type out level99love all the time. Much more friendly as well. If you don't want to call me Manaphione123 all the time just call me Greg, or Ginger, either works.) If I had any knowledge on how to create userbars I would. But for now I will gladly put these ones to use. I can't choose! Also, I may not have my full team ready for a couple of days. I have not yet completed black you see and so cannot transfer them from my older games or breed the Unova native ones. I will update when I am done.

Zalbar
7th April 2011, 8:35 PM
@level99love:
Again, thanks you very much for the user bars. They're awesome.
They and thier respective urls are all now listed in the OP.
Thank you again. :)
Also, I updated your roster, but the season hasn't started yet.
The rule is that you are only allowed 1 roster switch per season because I wanted to make sure noone tried switch teams every day to type match everyone they battle.
I never put a limitation on changes during the off season however, as I am aware that many people have trouble making up thier minds and it would give them a little time to really make sure they have what they want.

@Manaphione123:
That's fine, just make sure "soon" is before the 16th because Season 1 kicks off on the 17th.

Manaphione123
8th April 2011, 9:01 AM
That should be fine Zalbar. I just completed Black a few minutes ago and should get my team within a day or two.

Zalbar
9th April 2011, 5:31 PM
Okay.
No new regestrations for the past couple days, and at this rate it'll be a couple months before we have enough members to start a season.
Unless we get a sudden rush of new applications season 1's start date will most likely have to be pushed back.
Maybe postponing until the start of May would give us enough time to have a decent amount of new registrations?
Starting to wonder though if there's anything more I could be doing to get more people to sign up.
hmmmm.

In the meantime I'm gonna work on finishing up my own team for the AAA division.

Should have myself added to the roster in the next day or two provided I can ever make up my mind on what I want to bring. >.<

Manaphione123
10th April 2011, 10:08 AM
How about some casual battles to pass the time? It would help us to get some practice in and figure out whether or not to revise our teams.

Soluna
11th April 2011, 10:08 PM
I might want to apply, but there are a couple of things I don't understand entirely;
AAA ; Why level 10? I think it would be better to be level 5, since that is the standard for Little Cup.
AA ; I think level 25 would be better. It wouldn't ruin the idea, and widens your Pokemon pool a little bit.


--

I'll send you a message.

Zalbar
11th April 2011, 10:48 PM
Actually I have been considering changing the levels around some to try and attract more participants.

Was thinking of dropping AAA to 5 and AA to 10 however.

I'll leave it up to the people that have already signed though as I wouldn't want them to feel completely left out of the process.

So guys: What do you think?

Make AAA level 5?
Or leave AAA alone?

Make AA another level? (if yes please submit a suggestion)
Or leave AA alone?

Or should I make it really hard on myself by just switching the naming scheme around to make 20 AAA, 10 AA, and add 5 as the A division?
(which would require me pretty much re-writing the entire OP to add it in. x_x)



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edit-
@Soluna:
Just realised I never did actually answer your questions when I typed this out. Sorry about that, allow me to explain.

When I was drawing up the idea/plans to create The Little League I notcied that many of the people who participate in the normal Little Cup put as much time and effort into creating the perfect teams as people that battle competitively at lvl 100 do and that they can be every bit as competitive and unforgiving on thier opponents in terms of battle styles.

I liked the premise of battling at low levels, but the whole atmosphere was a bit off putting, it seemed very much like either you had this on your team or that on your team or you were doomed.

Hence, when creating The Little League I came to the decision that if I went for levels that were incompatible with the current LC standard I would be less likely to draw the attention of those crowds of people.
I had guessed that they would be less likely to want to join as they would need to either level thier current LC teams, or go out and breed up and EV train all new teams, which can be a lot of work.

Since I was looking to draw more of a relaxed/casual group that are more interested in pitting low leveled version of thier favorites against each other as opposed to the type of people that want to make thier own ultimate team filled with creatures that have the best stats, natures, perfect IVs, unbeatable movesets, etc., it seemed to me that keeping it at a low enough level that anyone could join, while being too high for the already established LC teams might work.

I still would much rather prefer this being a just for fun casual league with a nicely relaxed environment, but considering the exceptionally low number of appications maybe I was wrong in think it could appeal to the type of crowd I was hoping to get.

level99love
11th April 2011, 11:46 PM
Hmm, well I have trained most of my Pokemon to level 10 already, but I don't mind swiching to AA.

Skevengal
12th April 2011, 3:06 AM
I don't mind if the levels switch, I'm pretty flexible. This is my first league that I have ever joined and I'm not sure completely how it works but do they give more time? or do they advertise widely? I hope the rest of you figure this out as i literally have 5 tests tomorrow and a quiz wednesday so I won't be on till...idk cuz my teachers are really random with testing, but as soon as I can i'll try to go on and help this predicament.

Zalbar
12th April 2011, 4:37 AM
@Skevengal:
No need to rush/worry we'll come to a decision in due course.
For the meantime I will most likely postpone the start of season 1 anyhow since there really aren't enough applicants yet.

As far as advertizing goes, my understanding of the SPPF rules is that all (if you do any at all) is to be done in your signature.
You're not allowed to advert in any thread in a way that could be considered off topic, so I just keep posting a lot and hope people are curios enough to click on my banner.
Don't really think there is much else I can do without risking infractions or a possible ban.

Also, if this league doesn't work, try not to worry about it too much. We could always create like a low level casual battling club or group or whatever. :)

Before it comes to that though, I would appreciate more input from you guys on any ideas you might have towards improving the League, as well as your thoughts on wether or not you want to keep the current format or change around the level structure some and how.

Soluna
12th April 2011, 6:59 PM
I guess adding a tier isn't that bad of an idea, but at the same time two would be ideal. Something you could do is make a LC tier, and your own unique tier. The Level 20 one, for example.

The reason why i'm enforcing the LC tier so much is because it's a pain to breed correctly, and then you are only able to use the said Pokemon in Level 10 restriction battles. While, if the Level's were maxed out at 5, we could join in other LC battles aswell. LC in itself would attract more users than a Level 10 Tier would.

The Level 20 Tier is fine, I think. I like the idea and you could make it your league's signature Tier. Ofcourse there need to be made certain adjustments to make it fair, since not every Pokemon has access to an evolution at that point. ^_^

Zalbar
12th April 2011, 8:35 PM
Still waiting for replies from KickAsh and Manaphione123.

Das sent me his opinion on the matter via PM last night.

He's of the opinion that we need a LC standard tier as well.

From the looks of how they wrote thier responces, I'm assuming level99love would like to keep the lvl 10 bracket and Skevengal is okay with just about anything.

Personally I'd like to keep the level 10 tier myself as that was the core idea for TLL when I thought it up. I added the lvl 20 tier later on more as an added option than anything else.

From the looks of it I'd guess at this point going 5 & 10 as opposed to 10 & 20 might be an okay compromise?

I'll put the OP in my copy of OpenOffice and tweak around with it some to see how it turns out.
When we can all agree on the new setting I'll implement the edits we come to a conclusion on into it and overwrite the OP with the revisions.

On a somewhat related note:
Dasdardly mentioned in his PM to me that the possiblity of getting up to 3 challenges per day might seem a bit much.
I tried my best in the OP to make it clear that you are not required to take every challenge, and that you can back off on them if time arrangments between particpants can't be made or RL gets in the way, but I guess he feels it might still be a bit too busy.

Since we're already talking about revising the rest of the stuff I figured I'd ask you guys if you want this toned down as well.
Das suggested 4 challenges for 48.
I'm thinking if this gets changed maby just giving each player 7 challenges at the start of the week, and then they have the whole week to complete them in whatever order they want?
Would either of these work for you guys, or do you like the challenges the way they are?

Manaphione123
12th April 2011, 8:54 PM
AAA ; Why level 10? I think it would be better to be level 5, since that is the standard for Little Cup.
AA ; I think level 25 would be better. It wouldn't ruin the idea, and widens your Pokemon pool a little bit.


Level 5 doesn't work. People have already set up their teams at level 10, being at level 10 gives a wider move pool if only by a tiny bit and level 10 allows for more EV's if people use those. Also, not that I will compete in the AA tier but how does increasing the level by five levels increase the amount of Pokémon a person has access too?

Zalbar, I think it's a good idea to do the AAA, AA and A thing you talked about if it's not too much hassle. Also, I think that the challenges in a week thing is a good idea because it provides more flexibility to arrange battles with one another. However I do not have much of an opinion on how many challenges a week there should be. Perhaps a vote would resolve this matter.

Soluna
12th April 2011, 9:00 PM
Personally I'd like to keep the level 10 tier myself as that was the core idea for TLL when I thought it up. I added the lvl 20 tier later on more as an added option than anything else.

From the looks of it I'd guess at this point going 5 & 10 as opposed to 10 & 20 might be an okay compromise?

I'm fine with it, but that leaves me with a question. 5 and 10 are rather similiar, the only difference being 5 Levels and that genderless creatures could possible learn one of their level-up moves, before them having reached Level 10.

In the end though, is it really worth it? I don't mind if you decide to keep the 10 Tier in place, but understand that it won't give as much variety as the 20 Tier does. Just something to think about. I'll await the responses of the others, and I know it's ultimately your decision. I already appreciate it that you are considering the actual LC. ^_^


Level 5 doesn't work. People have already set up their teams at level 10, being at level 10 gives a wider move pool if only by a tiny bit and level 10 allows for more EV's if people use those. Also, not that I will compete in the AA tier but how does increasing the level by five levels increase the amount of Pokémon a person has access too?


The EV's aren't really an issue. Since you can max out your LC Pokemon before it has reached Level 5. It however requires some patience and dedication. As for the AA. Some Pokemon have more chance in succeeding in the tier if they atleast evolved once. For example; Pidove evolves at Level 21, but as it is now it can't evolve. Meaning, that it's not strong enough to face some of the Tier's evolutions. 25 would solve this problem, by giving certain Pokemon a decent chance at competing within the Tier.


Zalbar, I think it's a good idea to do the AAA, AA and A thing you talked about if it's not too much hassle.

I'm fine with this aswell. No one would suffer from the changes.

Zalbar
12th April 2011, 9:47 PM
Okay, nevermind what this post said before.

I'm pretty sure I've completed work on the "new" OP.
Will C&P it as soon as I'm done typing this out.

Please go look over the new OP and see if you notice anything "wrong" with it or that needs correcting.
I'm going to give this a few more day to be worked out.
By Friday if you haven't spoken up yet I will just assume you are ok with everything as is.


edit:
It just dawned on me that I'm going to need to ask Pupintheturd to "update" the banner he made for me.
I wonder how this one is going to turn out. >_>

Throhlurk
14th April 2011, 1:28 PM
Trainer name: bass
White fc: in sig
Division: 10s
6-10 species: Lickitung, zigzagoon, cyndaquill, makuhita, cottonee, mantyke.

Plz tell me if some of these aren't allowed

Zalbar
15th April 2011, 1:18 PM
Throhlurk, added you to the level 10 division roster.

Dasderdly requested to be moved to the lvl 5 division via PM. Done.
Dasderdly requested to be added to the lvl 5 division via PM. Done.
Sorry for the mistake, read your pm wrong the first time. >.<


Added a quote from the PO Gen 5 tiers list concerning banned pokemon, abilitys, and items to the bottom of the OP where the links to the tiers lists are.
These bans will apply to us as well in both the level 5 and level 10 tiers.
Noone that is on the rosters currently has any of these pokemon on thier teams so don't worry about needing to change your teams.

Gave everyone until Friday to send me suggestions (or post them here) on things they wanted to see changed.
Welp, today is the Friday, so speak up now while you still have the chance. :)

Spoke with Pupintheturd about updating the banner since it is now obsolete as we have 3 divisions at 5, 10, and 25 now instead of 2 at 10 and 20.
He has closed his art shop because he's too busy, but said he would give it a try.
Unfortunatly he informed me the next day that after many attempts to modify it, he had to quit because any attempts to alter it only managed to degrade the image quality.
Since that's the case, I'll be hunting around the art shops for a new banner to put at the top of the OP.
Until then the original banner will stay put because even if it is outdated Pup did an amazing job on it, and it looks cool as ****.


Still looking for / need more applicants.
You there, reading this post.
Register yourself a team and have some fun dammit! :P

Skevengal
15th April 2011, 9:13 PM
Hi there, instead of reposting my teams, I would like to be added to the level 5 division as well, so I will be participating in all of them, and it is the same as my level 10 division team. Also, do you know approximately when the season may kick off? I am a student and may have to study for tests and such so I would like to be notified in advance if that is okay.

Throhlurk
16th April 2011, 12:27 AM
Can I also add some pokes to my team? Im hoping to put in cacnea, dwebble.

Zalbar
16th April 2011, 3:58 AM
@Skevengal: Unfortunately I can't really put a set start date on it yet as that's really all up to the number of people that join. If more people sign up, we can start sooner. I currently have May 1st as the new tentative start date, hopefully by then there will be enough competititors to make an honest go of it. I will make a note to myself that I need to PM you ahead of the start date once everything is set in stone.


@Skevengal, Soluna, & Throhlurk:
Will update the rosters with all 3 of your requests as soon as I can pry the laptop away from my girlfriends deathgrip.
Solluna, I'll go ahead and add you like requested in the PM you sent, but please send in a team as soon as possible, though I do understand your level of indecision all too well.
Still haven't put my own entry up because of the same reason. XD

Skevengal
16th April 2011, 4:11 AM
I love how it shows my name on my post and the fact that you spelled it wrong both times XD i

Throhlurk
22nd April 2011, 9:45 AM
Hey there guys ;)

Manaphione123
23rd April 2011, 4:47 PM
Hi there. My team is almost completely ready. I still have 6 usable Pokémon so I am battle ready.

Dasdardly
23rd April 2011, 11:56 PM
If worse comes to worse, I'll use my level 5 team in the level 10 bracket. (Or just forfeit all my matches.)

Skevengal
5th May 2011, 1:40 AM
Zal, my team is all set up and ready, so no need to PM as I am already secured to go, however...due to the..."inactivity" in this league... should I assume that it is "dead" or are we still waiting on more competitors. Just wanna know that you guys are still...alive? lol

Manaphione123
7th May 2011, 11:05 AM
I'm not dead. Don't worry about me. My team is ready and I am thinking of adding a Zorua if possible.

Alcatraz
7th May 2011, 11:41 AM
Is this still open for sign ups? if so this should be a walk in the park

Trainer Name: Steve
B/W FC: 0518 3018 5519
Division(s): Lv5 (LC)
Roster: Dwebble, Scraggy, Wynaut, Carvanha, Vulpix, Cherubi, Bellsprout, Mienfoo, Slowpoke, Gligar

Skevengal
7th May 2011, 9:19 PM
YEA! COMPETITORS! (for me to lose to lol)

Manaphione123
14th May 2011, 9:49 AM
I'd like to add a Zorua to my team please.

Is this thread dead or something? Hello? Anybody? Hellooooo?